I can tell you right now it's the swarm. Please leave this out cause you WITH other RUclipsRS will make people use it, which will make it get PATCHED behind all the complaints that will follow
@nardo34480 the swarm is still really good up to 7m. They only changed the damage drop-off I believe. I gotta try this personal ttk method he showed in the video. Such a good addition!
I took the time to complete this testing process using my TDG account. Ended up w a gun I’ve rarely ever used (Holger 26) as my best score. Took it out and hit PR on my second game. This is an awesome tool for casual/intermediate players to help dial in a personalized primary. Def recommend 👍
You continue to amaze me. "some pretty advanced recoil analysis in there" I won't use metagen every month, and I don't play all the time, but I have been using your site since day 1. The creativity and production from you is so good, shedding out $5/month is the least I can do. Cheers, Tony.
I think the new muzzle should be another selection like how you can force supressors. You can select whether or not you care about the minimap downside.
Man, I listen to people say meta this meta that. This is the gun! But with your videos and application I can have the confidence in where my gun/loadout builds stand against what's out there in the lobbies. Thanks bro!
Honestly I have been a total fanatic for suppressors since wz1. I do use the new JAK BFB muzzle and honestly the benefits outweigh the downsides by a mile. I always felt like even though I used suppressors in the past it didn't change the fact that enemies always knew where I was. It feels like every enemy team has drones and at least one player with a comms vest. So unless I'm in like the last circle and I'm sneaking around trying to third party others, I never really felt like people hunted me down more than the times I used a suppressor.
Its hard to incorporate the concept that you stay on the map longer and your direction is shown. Ive heard people say that its a good thing since it hides their elevation and if you move and play aggressive, theres a ping facing a direction where you were and not wear you are. Good players can use it as bait as enemy players tunnel vision in on your last ping, believing they still see where you are, but its just the ping lasting longer and youve already started the flank.
it’s wild how different recoil is for some people. the bas b is by far the easiest gun for me to control out of all these on this list, yet it was the most difficult for you. the sva is easy for most people, yet i struggle to control it most of the time.
I could see your point. I think naturally, we all pull down on the right stick/mouse to counteract recoil, so maybe it’s a matter of overcorrection? The SVA requires almost no physical recoil control
RE: BFB muzzle... Have similar to forcing suppressors etc have an option to ignore that muzzle because it's so unique with side effects a lot of people don't want.
JAK BFB is def a bonus if used correctly with its radar ping, especially Smg's. Ive seen so many people hard chase staring at the mini map while fighting in a building only for them to fall for the fake shots. Like its so good when used like that.
Not showing verticality is huge too; I get so many free kills from people expecting me to be bottom floor or on a roof and im chilling on a balcony ready to beam them.
I feel like the MCW 6.8 has been extremely slept on all this time. It's a monster for mid to long range and it's very good for quads because of that 60 round mag it gets.
My conversion kit is bugged for me. It simply won't let me equip it and I get booted to the main menu. Same thing happens trying to look ak or delete my weapon loadouts in the armory. Super frustrating!
Personally i put ram as the best weapon just because it’s so strong at the most important ranges. But I really liked seeing the holger 26 so high on the list because that’s all I’ve been using the past couple days. All the boys think I’m trolling using it 😂…do wish it did slightly more damage in the close to mid tho.
The holger is definitely a long range beamer as opposed to a sniper support. I've been running it with some flavour of shotgun just to beat the aim assist b-hopping sweat fest kids that my boomer hands can't follow.
*Your website is top notch!* The horizontal recoil is crazy on the BAS-B, when it's eliminated it's very easy to use.. Sniper Support / short range or long range.. It's all about erasing that horizontal recoil. I just don't understand how VT7 suppressor + vertical foregrip was suggested over the Bruen grip and a brake. I'll have to check it out, but I'm sure it won't be as good as a horizontal recoil muzzle brake and the bruen grip.
Thanks again TGD! It’s funny how you mentioned the Pulemyot and Dg-58 LSW are falling out of the meta in the previous vid when s1.5 began just to have MetaGen contradict that less than a week later lol. All love
I haven't heard much about the Mane V6 stock. It looks like that's being swapped in to replace the bruen heavy support grip that I see in most builds. Any thoughts as to why the Mane stock is considered a better option over this grip?
a thought for JAK BFB muzzle....maybe treat it like the filter "force weapon suppression"...."allow increased radar presence from JAK BFB"...or something like that.
Ever played disc golf? I recently dropped golf for disc golf and am having so much more fun. It's just as complicated and difficult to learn as golf and you can play anytime for free! I highly recommend trying it sometimes if you haven't. I wish I had picked it up 20 years earlier. Don't be like me and wait
Good thing I tried this tool. Turns out my absolute meta is the Bas-B. Who would've thought? lol Thanks TGD for this tool. Very glad to support your work.
Casus muzzle takes away visual recoil. Doesn't say it in game but almost completely removes it. Combine it with bruen pivot vertical and everything seems like a beam
I'm pretty sure that's the new "firing aim stability" mechanic at work. I noticed that every attachment that has that often helps with recoil more than some others that don't have it but have theoretically better recoil reduction by the numbers. It's fairly easy to notice how much less your sight moves around when firing.
Hats off to you! Constantly coming up with new ways of doing things. Even when that other data mining website popped up you didn't give up you just became more inventive. Legend!
I've been messing around with off meta and I know these are full auto guns but I've been using the DG56 on single fire even though it got a minor nerf. Burst has a weird up and to the right delay even with the Jak muzzle. Single fire is just point and click. Downs full armor in 3-4 shots
W …. The DG lmg is a laser for me especially when I use high velocity…. I used your testing methods with changing attachments and high velocity did the trick over another recoil attachment. :)
Been rocking the basb just because of the raw ttk, its really just matter of adapting to the gun, with bas b i just close the gap to that beaming sweet spot. Cant expect to use a basb same way as a pulemyot.
Just curious why is there only 4 attachment shown for all the meta gen result weapons? Is it just saying that thats the best option to not use a 5th attachment on those weapons
hey man im learning programming at uni and trying to self teach on the side, I would love if you could briefly mention how you managed to make that golfing program you mentioned. Just the vague libraries etc so i can look into it more would be great, cheers man
Why are the lmgs rated higher on Metagen when they have slower ttk than SVA/RAM/BAS-B & worse on other key attributes like reload speed, sprint to fire, ads, etc
WTF, you are a scratch Golfer??? From a low handicap to another, mad respect ;D (Also, i emailed you a while back about my registration with truegamedata & you/or Kristina emailed me back very quickly, helped me solve the issue and i never got a chance to thank you guys) Keep up the great work
Really curious how you would even balance the JAK BFB in MetaGen. I feel like it's weapon specific, and playstyle specific. I have avoided the BasB cause I can't control the recoil with the suppressor, but now love the gun. I can trade off showing up on the map vs having the absolute fastest TTK AR being a laser. Also as a higher KD player my team doesn't run ghost anyways, and we are constantly pushing teams and have the gun skill to get out of trouble. That being said I have some less skilled friends that definitely prefer to be off the minimap with ghost/suppressors, in which case I use the SVA instead of the BASB cause they hate being third partied cause cause their play style is slower.
It is going to be tough. It will pretty much just automatically put it on everything once I add it, unless force suppressor is turned on. And maybe that is okay, because maybe that is just how good it is
Yeah I guess having the forced suppressor might be enough actually. I guess I can just do the recoil percentages with/without and compare BasB to SVA to get the personal TTK and then if the TTK us substantially better with the accuracy of the Jak BFB then I get my answer.. Still really hard to weigh out the cons cause who knows what % of your deaths are because you were on the mini map vs just a normal death. I haven't felt anything abnormal or an uptick in deaths using the Jak BFB the last few days though. In fact, I think I've played better.
STB 556 seems to be pretty good after the latest update. I'm still sad they nerfed the M13B though. I loved that gun. The list of good old weapons isn't very long unfortunately
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Appreciate you all, thanks for watching as always. Close Range meta very soon
I can tell you right now it's the swarm. Please leave this out cause you WITH other RUclipsRS will make people use it, which will make it get PATCHED behind all the complaints that will follow
Love the work as always. Can't wait for sniper support metagen. The sniper support is wide open right now.
@nardo34480 the swarm is still really good up to 7m. They only changed the damage drop-off I believe. I gotta try this personal ttk method he showed in the video. Such a good addition!
@@dazwgoaliedaz5333 It's Ram7 HRM and nothing else
@@nardo34480the swarm are very good still but the hrm 9 ttk is way faster after they nerf the swarm tbh it’s really depends on the player
I took the time to complete this testing process using my TDG account. Ended up w a gun I’ve rarely ever used (Holger 26) as my best score. Took it out and hit PR on my second game. This is an awesome tool for casual/intermediate players to help dial in a personalized primary. Def recommend 👍
So you literally went through every gun? Wild.
No he didn't, he used the one that came up first... How can you misunderstand so badly...@@austin842
@@austin842no just Tony’s top 5
@@dipyourcar love your channel watched you for years
How much is it?
You continue to amaze me. "some pretty advanced recoil analysis in there"
I won't use metagen every month, and I don't play all the time, but I have been using your site since day 1. The creativity and production from you is so good, shedding out $5/month is the least I can do.
Cheers, Tony.
Regarding the BFB muzzle: It may be best to have it as a toggle option similar to how you've handled laser visibility.
yh was gonna say this, have as a specials toggle.
I think the new muzzle should be another selection like how you can force supressors. You can select whether or not you care about the minimap downside.
Man, I listen to people say meta this meta that. This is the gun! But with your videos and application I can have the confidence in where my gun/loadout builds stand against what's out there in the lobbies. Thanks bro!
Honestly I have been a total fanatic for suppressors since wz1. I do use the new JAK BFB muzzle and honestly the benefits outweigh the downsides by a mile. I always felt like even though I used suppressors in the past it didn't change the fact that enemies always knew where I was. It feels like every enemy team has drones and at least one player with a comms vest. So unless I'm in like the last circle and I'm sneaking around trying to third party others, I never really felt like people hunted me down more than the times I used a suppressor.
I agree.
I concur.
Its hard to incorporate the concept that you stay on the map longer and your direction is shown. Ive heard people say that its a good thing since it hides their elevation and if you move and play aggressive, theres a ping facing a direction where you were and not wear you are. Good players can use it as bait as enemy players tunnel vision in on your last ping, believing they still see where you are, but its just the ping lasting longer and youve already started the flank.
I just wanna get outta the office now and go home and try this for myself! Ugh. 😂
it’s wild how different recoil is for some people. the bas b is by far the easiest gun for me to control out of all these on this list, yet it was the most difficult for you. the sva is easy for most people, yet i struggle to control it most of the time.
I could see your point. I think naturally, we all pull down on the right stick/mouse to counteract recoil, so maybe it’s a matter of overcorrection? The SVA requires almost no physical recoil control
That's why the TTK sim tool is so powerful and why people will really benefit from testing things out for themselves
Dude this is how I feel with the Bas B, it feels easy to control the recoil but idk why the SVA 545 feels off for me to control
The BAS-B has the most erratic recoil pattern of the bunch
Yeah Bas has recoil that can’t be corrected that’s how the balanced BRs
As an aggressive player, even just the first minute of this video was gold. The whole video is amazing thanks, for work you do for us!
RE: BFB muzzle... Have similar to forcing suppressors etc have an option to ignore that muzzle because it's so unique with side effects a lot of people don't want.
JAK BFB is def a bonus if used correctly with its radar ping, especially Smg's. Ive seen so many people hard chase staring at the mini map while fighting in a building only for them to fall for the fake shots. Like its so good when used like that.
Not showing verticality is huge too; I get so many free kills from people expecting me to be bottom floor or on a roof and im chilling on a balcony ready to beam them.
@@GCOSBenbow yeah I didn’t write that part but it’s huge also haha
My guy out here doing a master's thesis on TTKs and I'm here for it.
I feel like the MCW 6.8 has been extremely slept on all this time. It's a monster for mid to long range and it's very good for quads because of that 60 round mag it gets.
That gun also has a bugged bullet velocity with the spire point rounds. You can even build it up to have almost 2000m/s
@@wumpygamingwhat’s the full build?
Shhhh don’t tell anyone!
the regular one or the full auto conversion?
My conversion kit is bugged for me. It simply won't let me equip it and I get booted to the main menu. Same thing happens trying to look ak or delete my weapon loadouts in the armory. Super frustrating!
I’m glad that God made smart people like you. Thanks for all the good information.
The holger 26 is a 10/10 if you switch it to trios I just want to point out
Having metagen without jak is just causing an underweighting on high recoil guns like ram
Wonder how the high power high recoil guns from mw2 will be with the jak bfb… Lachlan 762 any good?
@TrueGameData this is super impressive I like this kinda breakdown.. my brain is tickled ngl 😅 love it. Great video man thank you 🫡
SVA 545 is so underrated since beginning, this gun is beast. Really good ttk after all, mobile as its an assault rifle. So good, love it
I'm going to give it a go
Iv been using it I think it’s up there deffo .. paired with new smg
I'm on MnK, and bro I swear if you put it in burst fire, it has absolutely 0 recoil long range, you win pretty much every gunfight cklse range aswel.
@@ScrayWZ I’m on controller so I’m using it with normal rate of fire on my side
Just when I was wondering when Tony was gonna drop us some long range knowledge, he delivers. Thank you Tony!
Personally i put ram as the best weapon just because it’s so strong at the most important ranges. But I really liked seeing the holger 26 so high on the list because that’s all I’ve been using the past couple days. All the boys think I’m trolling using it 😂…do wish it did slightly more damage in the close to mid tho.
The holger is definitely a long range beamer as opposed to a sniper support. I've been running it with some flavour of shotgun just to beat the aim assist b-hopping sweat fest kids that my boomer hands can't follow.
*Your website is top notch!*
The horizontal recoil is crazy on the BAS-B, when it's eliminated it's very easy to use.. Sniper Support / short range or long range.. It's all about erasing that horizontal recoil.
I just don't understand how VT7 suppressor + vertical foregrip was suggested over the Bruen grip and a brake.
I'll have to check it out, but I'm sure it won't be as good as a horizontal recoil muzzle brake and the bruen grip.
Thanks again TGD!
It’s funny how you mentioned the Pulemyot and Dg-58 LSW are falling out of the meta in the previous vid when s1.5 began just to have MetaGen contradict that less than a week later lol.
All love
Yeah I was wrong, they nerfed so many things that those ended up staying near the top still - meta is in a good spot though!
@@TrueGameData Yup good to hear ✌️✌️
Tony, enjoyed the flyover visual of the hole! Especially for driver shots where it’s hard to see.
I haven't heard much about the Mane V6 stock. It looks like that's being swapped in to replace the bruen heavy support grip that I see in most builds. Any thoughts as to why the Mane stock is considered a better option over this grip?
Thanks Tony! Good to have you 😊
I think being an advance ping is better than a normal ping in a lot of situations because it doesn’t show elevation.
I agree, it's nice sometimes but I wouldn't call the advance ping a straight upgrade, building campers get an advantage really.
At the end of the day someone is now aware of your presence, immediate downside, phenomenal attachment imo
a thought for JAK BFB muzzle....maybe treat it like the filter "force weapon suppression"...."allow increased radar presence from JAK BFB"...or something like that.
Thanks tgd, least I can do is like and some love ❤
Ever played disc golf? I recently dropped golf for disc golf and am having so much more fun. It's just as complicated and difficult to learn as golf and you can play anytime for free! I highly recommend trying it sometimes if you haven't. I wish I had picked it up 20 years earlier. Don't be like me and wait
Good thing I tried this tool. Turns out my absolute meta is the Bas-B. Who would've thought? lol Thanks TGD for this tool. Very glad to support your work.
yet again you blow the game out of the dang water that is freaking crazy awesome man. you are on another level for sure
Hell yeah dude I’m a die hard golfer bro! Best of both worlds gaming and golfing let’s go 💪🏽💪🏽
Deffo my favourite channel when it comes to Warzone, big shout of support here!
Casus muzzle takes away visual recoil. Doesn't say it in game but almost completely removes it. Combine it with bruen pivot vertical and everything seems like a beam
I'm pretty sure that's the new "firing aim stability" mechanic at work. I noticed that every attachment that has that often helps with recoil more than some others that don't have it but have theoretically better recoil reduction by the numbers. It's fairly easy to notice how much less your sight moves around when firing.
Hats off to you! Constantly coming up with new ways of doing things. Even when that other data mining website popped up you didn't give up you just became more inventive. Legend!
Thanks again Tony. My go to site and RUclips channel 👍🏻
Thank you for putting in all this time and effort , it is appreciated.
Website is genius. What you do is crazy.
Amazing video. You're detail and work is unmatched.
So in the results it only shows 4 attachments. Guessing the other is for a optic
been running BFB since it dropped and its great (4kd). dont worry about getting off the minimap, ull kill anything that moves
You’re a god bro! Your content is always awesome, keep it up. I also love how transparent you are about clickbait
The mtz762 is my favorite gun.. I use the close quarters stock instead of an under barrel
I've been messing around with off meta and I know these are full auto guns but I've been using the DG56 on single fire even though it got a minor nerf. Burst has a weird up and to the right delay even with the Jak muzzle. Single fire is just point and click. Downs full armor in 3-4 shots
This is amazing man keep up the good work i always come here fir the best cod information
you really are the man! can't really fathom how you do all of this, but thank you so much
W …. The DG lmg is a laser for me especially when I use high velocity…. I used your testing methods with changing attachments and high velocity did the trick over another recoil attachment. :)
Solid swing man! Definitely going to check the new page out!
Been rocking the basb just because of the raw ttk, its really just matter of adapting to the gun, with bas b i just close the gap to that beaming sweet spot. Cant expect to use a basb same way as a pulemyot.
i think this tool wouldve changed history if we had it during verdansk especially the personalization aspect
Not really. Metas were crazy back then.
Was grau, m4, kilo or you die haha
@@I.AMWallzyyeah in like 2020
@junyaiwase yea verdansk. Back then it was clear metas.
Thanks! Impressive work. Do you do data analysis work irl?
The svA is the long rang meta fir once its the best for now single shot burst is the got to been putting in a lot of work with it
Why no use the bruen pivot vertical grip , is better than the kimura
This analysis and tool is legitimately impressive. How Activision hasn't reached out yet is confusing.
Great video. Informative from beginning to end.
🔥🔥🔥🔥 love all the new features i use it everyday day thanks bro and im Subed to the website!
I cant find the ttk of sva in burst mode (not hyper burst, the fast as u can go with controller).. It seems good or am i wrong?
I was impressed with the Bruen by the time I got done leveling it and I only started because the ttk was very low on a random chart.
Are you taking into account the Ram7 has a larger head shot hit box than other weapons. Same damage for neck and head.
You would have to do all your accuracy again cause the jak muzzle, all those guns become way more accurate.
love the content as always! much appreciated.
I have been waiting for these for 2 last two days
Just curious why is there only 4 attachment shown for all the meta gen result weapons? Is it just saying that thats the best option to not use a 5th attachment on those weapons
5th option is your preferred scope. Everyone using corio eagle 2.5 so he didn’t include it I think
This is an awesome video and site.
Honestly insane work. This is very impressive.
hey man im learning programming at uni and trying to self teach on the side, I would love if you could briefly mention how you managed to make that golfing program you mentioned. Just the vague libraries etc so i can look into it more would be great, cheers man
stoked for close range, 100 round amr9 is crazy
Why are the lmgs rated higher on Metagen when they have slower ttk than SVA/RAM/BAS-B & worse on other key attributes like reload speed, sprint to fire, ads, etc
We appreciate all that you do for us ❤
WTF, you are a scratch Golfer??? From a low handicap to another, mad respect ;D
(Also, i emailed you a while back about my registration with truegamedata & you/or Kristina emailed me back very quickly, helped me solve the issue and i never got a chance to thank you guys)
Keep up the great work
You're the goat, appreciate you brother, thank you 🙏
Hi man! Love your videos! Would love to see if there is any possibility to see meta guns for multiplayer ranked. Thanks!
I would appreciate a video about muzzle flash concealment attachments . Ping how long would it last
@TrueGameData why is the Kimura RYN better than the Bruen Pivot Vertical Grip? The Bruen Pivot has better stats
Absolutely amazing
Thank you for your hard work
i see you put kimura grip very often in your vids. but i like the bruen heavy support way more. a lot more steady.
Really curious how you would even balance the JAK BFB in MetaGen. I feel like it's weapon specific, and playstyle specific. I have avoided the BasB cause I can't control the recoil with the suppressor, but now love the gun. I can trade off showing up on the map vs having the absolute fastest TTK AR being a laser. Also as a higher KD player my team doesn't run ghost anyways, and we are constantly pushing teams and have the gun skill to get out of trouble. That being said I have some less skilled friends that definitely prefer to be off the minimap with ghost/suppressors, in which case I use the SVA instead of the BASB cause they hate being third partied cause cause their play style is slower.
It is going to be tough. It will pretty much just automatically put it on everything once I add it, unless force suppressor is turned on. And maybe that is okay, because maybe that is just how good it is
Good analysis
yup
Yeah I guess having the forced suppressor might be enough actually. I guess I can just do the recoil percentages with/without and compare BasB to SVA to get the personal TTK and then if the TTK us substantially better with the accuracy of the Jak BFB then I get my answer.. Still really hard to weigh out the cons cause who knows what % of your deaths are because you were on the mini map vs just a normal death. I haven't felt anything abnormal or an uptick in deaths using the Jak BFB the last few days though. In fact, I think I've played better.
good shit dawg ima try the sva 545 fasho
This is fantastic! Bravo 👏
Appreciate all your work dude!
when will sniper support be implemented? also sum barrels when added won't let you add the muzzle that seems to be an issue. thanks for all you do!
Love the data and also 8.3 golfer so I will check it out!
Thanks 👍🏼
Yo here for the golf. Hope to play sometime
Hi real human here not a bot, thank you Tony!
Imagine having to do this every time they buff/ nerf guns lol
Wow! That’s awesome! 👍🔥
Damn are any of the old weapons good anymore
STB 556 seems to be pretty good after the latest update. I'm still sad they nerfed the M13B though. I loved that gun. The list of good old weapons isn't very long unfortunately
Great video!
Great work as always mate.GG’s
next level content Tony! keep going!
Thx
Great video dude
Thanks Tony!
This is clutch 👊
Scratch golfer and COD god? Man’s unstoppable
Very Nice ... Thanks