The amount of work that you have done in this space has had such a large impact. Not just for the pros, but also all the casual guys either chasing the meta, or trying to find a fun gun to use. Thank you my man : )
I really think Meta gen should place a bit higher priority on base bullet velocity when looking at the Long Range Meta. I've had to give up on the Bruen and MTZ 556 simply due to bullet velo. If you have a high ping lobby at all you can hit long range shots.
You can prioritize different stats on metagen on tonys site if you’d like to personalize it for yourself, I think Tony is tryna give videos that will apply to the largest amount of people
@@BuckMerlin I agree, but imo the vast majority of people don't have great aim or aim control so they benefit greatly from as close to hit scan bullets as possible. With the lower bullet velo, and considering this is for long range meta, it will be much harder to hit shots while leading them with guns with lower bullet velo. E.g. Bruen, MTZ 556, etc.
I’ve been using the Bruen all the way through and wondered why it wasn’t being talked about all that much. I would try the meta’s that would being talked about and would always find myself going back. There is something to be said for having a solid gun, that you can learn the recoil pattern on and just feels comfortable. Always found it good at range.
Thanks for your hard work man! May i suggest something? Is it possible, for each weapon/Magazine add the reload time efficiency of Sleight of hand? Now is rarely used as perk since the test made showed that this perk was reducing by really tiny amount of time the reload speed but it changes by the weapon you are using. Is it possible?
I think the way for you to have metagen prioritize the 30 round mag for the MTZ-762 is by adding a preference or priority to metagen for higher damage per mag up or at least up until a certain point, that way it can understand that 20 bullets is not enough.
I get this is long range, but the 20-50m range is probably the most important range, unless you’re sniping and the RAM dominates this. I’d rather win all my mid range fights and risk losing my 50m+ fights. Until the RAM gets a close range nerf, I don’t see the META changing on either map.
I think the BP50 is completly overlooked here. It has a really good TTK and is an absolute laser (I have around 75-80% accurancy on 55 meters; far more than with an MTZ or Ram). Try the following build: - Sakin - Lore 9 Heavy - 45 Round - Optic - Moat 40 Stock. It has decent BV with around 900 as well. It is very fast regarding movement/ strafe speed and ads, so it is ultra snappy. And especially if you strafe on a head glitch it is very hard for opponents.
I have a gold membership! I love supporting you and what you do for the community. I would love to hear when we will see sniper support. Thanks for what you do!
The Sidewinder has reset issues, it does not center correctly. I really really wanted to use the MTZ556 on FK, but damn WAM7 just guns me every time. Tony, is the merch store ever going to come back? Great Video
SVA i think is one of the best for long range atm, also instead of putting it into single fire i keep it in auto and you can burst it very similar to single fire. burst mid to long range and im still in auto in case anyone got extremely close.
SVA still loyal, does some crazy shit when you need it too. But I feel like it got nerfed. I’m still using the outdated WSP and SVA meta, haven’t been on for like a month since school started. So I noticed the aim assist doesn’t snap on as good when their running away, and my phone wsp swarm is shooting everywhere.
@@kevinb718 still my main go to SVA and WSP9. WSP i run sonic supp, Hiss short barrel, 50 mag, and either DR6 handstop or skeletal vertical( i have a setup with both) and mk3 sight/nydar. SVA vt-7, STV barrel, 5.45 high grain, 60 round and corio 2.5/slate.
I find the SVA on single tap allows you to play with other non-recoil reducing attachments. I've been using high grain, long barrel, sonic supp, 60, slate. The BV is amazing
High fire rate, makes it deadly. You have to drill ppl with it. But I was single tapping it yesterday across the skyscrapers and getting hit markers, it's not such a peashooter, the range is good
Loving the new looks! 😎 For resurgence I run BP50 with long barrel, spirit supressor and high grain round. Of course its iron sight, but that gun is sweeeeet. Perfect subs for the RAM7.
Does your research tell you the average distance for most long range engagements? I’d say 40-60 is probably where most engagements take place but that’s just from feel and play. Curious if the research supports that.
Great video, I am just curious why the holger 26 ranks so much higher than the dg58 lsw they are essentially the same gun?? Keep up the great work Tony!
They need to fix the servers... why do I die so damn quickly now? On my screen I die in 3shots... when I watch the kill cam the guys has been shooting me of a couple of seconds...I have a new Xbox and a fast connection. Game is unplayable ATM... and I'm not the only one... tacticalbrit made a video about it a few days ago
Dear Tony, despite the below subpar work of a game COD has given us in the past few years, you continue to bust your ass and create complete guides for us. Your efforts never go unnoticed, God bless you sir.
Great video, as always! Only disagreement I have is with your STB 556 build... The FTAC FB20 barrel puts you in a weird spot between the 20" Bruen S-620 (better range, similar velocity and less movement penalties) and the Bruen Turaco 686mm (integrated silencer which frees up a spot for an ADS laser or STIP 40 grip for even better recoil control). I'm running the Bruen Turaco 686mm currently but I've never seen the point of the FTAC FB20 with how much it slows you down with its own penalties + a Spiritfire Suppressor. And shhhh about the DG-58... a very slept on gun.
I noticed after all the new updates the whole mw2 reticle not landing on where your center dot is aiming is back. I know they had fixed it with the new season so it appears it’s not functioning correctly.
Tony would you expand a bit on how Metagen picks attachments (regarding those "default settings" you mentioned), maybe in a future video? Because sometimes they seems really off to me. A clear example is the RAM-7: why the vertical grip when the horizontal bounce is the main problem with the recoil pattern of the gun? The bruen underbarrell should be a way better fit, i also swap it for the control grip on resurgence since it doesnt hurt ads and still provides visual clearness over decent recoil control.
DG-58 still feels like the best option vs. the Ram7. Its bullet velocity and accuracy makes it so damn good at ripping players off headys and beaming kids out of the sky.
Is it just me or does the holger 26 build that it suggests kinda suck? I thought it was supposed to be the "long range king" it seems kinda bouncy with this setup tbh
The AMR9 AR build is actually the best AR overall for the average player. Great recoil and the fastest time to kill at close and long range by alot. Nobody talks about it! The fact that it runs SMG ammo is a downside but worth the tradeoff for how fast it kills
@charliex9065 Lacerta compensater, engorcer long barrel, high grain rounds, 50 round mag (100 round mag makes ads strafe speed too slow) and a 1x optic like a slate reflector to minimize the amount you have to control recoil. This specific build is the ONLY good build for the AMR9, any other build either suffers from lack of recoil control or bullet velocity. One of the long range builds Tony recommended didn't have high grain rounds on it which is crucial for bullet velocity on this weapon.
@smokyx you're right, I don't keep up with his Twitter but to be fair the build that he posted was decent but suffers from bullet velocity due to having no high grain rounds on his build. Still my point is that nobody is talking about this gun, which is statistically the fastest killing AR and very easy to use and literally the number 1 AR in the game.
Why does the RAM7 have one of the worst long range recoils on the base weapon but using the JakBFB and other recoil attachments I can get it to be more accurate than most other guns using similar builds? Is it because the base just has a larger magnitude than others but is actually less bouncy/more predictable?
Why there are 4 attachments? The fifth one is the Optic? What if we use the iron sight like Ram-7? What would be the best attachment for the fifth one?
I run cronen barrel harbinger supressor bruen heavy underbarrel 60 and 3.4 stock on the ram it’s a laser beam lot of ppl run the jak but kills velocity by 18% the harbinger puts you at like 980 on velocity
*sva you do NOT need to switch firing modes you can keep it on full auto if you prefer and tap to get the same low recoil and two bullet tap. Go test it in the firing range same shots to kill.
These need to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Recoil is weighed way too heavily into the equation. Holger 26 is not a 10 it just has literally no recoil. TTK should be king when determining the meta.
It’s definitely a key factor but there are many more things which define a meta. Accuracy can easily outweigh raw TTK Fire rate makes a gun more forgiving Mag size/reload time for the aggressors ADS/StF depending on how you approach engagements impacts that TTK
Why does the website still show old damage stats for tac evo and incorrect stats when using poly lmg with the kit? Damage doesnt change but shows it does on tgd? 🤔🤔
Can you make a video on the non disclosed TYR damage nerf to the lower torso. This makes it a less reliable 2 shot. In game stats no longer match your website.
I've been using the Holger for the last few weeks and it's ridiculously good once you get a nice build and then get used to it. The MTZ 556 on the other hand just isn't it. Hitting moving targets with it is not easy because of that terrible bullet velocity. I'd take the BP50 over it any day since it has much better bullet velocity, less recoil and a much faster ttk in that first damage range, so you can still be very effective with it if you have to use it up close.
He;s hiding it again because he don't want it nerfed. But really it's more a mid range/close range build you can shoot long range but it's a bit jumpy.
The ram either needs to get a close range nerf or a recoil increase. Right now it is just too easy to get that super low TTK out to 30 or 40 m and there's no point in using anything else.
im new to your channel why does meta gen only have 4 attachments is the 5th one for like if you want to add something or is that for the optic just wondering love your breakdowns though found you from icemanissac
The amount of work that you have done in this space has had such a large impact. Not just for the pros, but also all the casual guys either chasing the meta, or trying to find a fun gun to use. Thank you my man : )
I really think Meta gen should place a bit higher priority on base bullet velocity when looking at the Long Range Meta. I've had to give up on the Bruen and MTZ 556 simply due to bullet velo. If you have a high ping lobby at all you can hit long range shots.
You can prioritize different stats on metagen on tonys site if you’d like to personalize it for yourself, I think Tony is tryna give videos that will apply to the largest amount of people
Yeah, that's why he mentioned that you can choose whatever fit's your game style.
@@BuckMerlin I agree, but imo the vast majority of people don't have great aim or aim control so they benefit greatly from as close to hit scan bullets as possible. With the lower bullet velo, and considering this is for long range meta, it will be much harder to hit shots while leading them with guns with lower bullet velo. E.g. Bruen, MTZ 556, etc.
I agree with haus
So set the velocity as a higher priority when you run MetaGen. You do have the ability to do exactly what you’re looking for. Good luck!
Never clicked so fast in my life
Same lmfao
Glad to know I’m not alone 💀
Me too
The TTC (Time to Click) is an average of 69 ms
You must have a very uninteresting life
I’ve been using the Bruen all the way through and wondered why it wasn’t being talked about all that much. I would try the meta’s that would being talked about and would always find myself going back. There is something to be said for having a solid gun, that you can learn the recoil pattern on and just feels comfortable. Always found it good at range.
Thanks for your hard work man! May i suggest something? Is it possible, for each weapon/Magazine add the reload time efficiency of Sleight of hand? Now is rarely used as perk since the test made showed that this perk was reducing by really tiny amount of time the reload speed but it changes by the weapon you are using. Is it possible?
+1
I think the way for you to have metagen prioritize the 30 round mag for the MTZ-762 is by adding a preference or priority to metagen for higher damage per mag up or at least up until a certain point, that way it can understand that 20 bullets is not enough.
I get this is long range, but the 20-50m range is probably the most important range, unless you’re sniping and the RAM dominates this. I’d rather win all my mid range fights and risk losing my 50m+ fights. Until the RAM gets a close range nerf, I don’t see the META changing on either map.
Wow thanks for your insight , nobody asked
@@OPGrimmzliterally the most useless reply ever, gtfo
@@smokyx 🎣 ty
@@OPGrimmz Anime pfp and comes out with this...
Guess you've overlooked the AMR. 0-32 it dominates, and again at 39+. It is the only close, mid and long range meta.
I think the BP50 is completly overlooked here. It has a really good TTK and is an absolute laser (I have around 75-80% accurancy on 55 meters; far more than with an MTZ or Ram). Try the following build:
- Sakin
- Lore 9 Heavy
- 45 Round
- Optic
- Moat 40 Stock.
It has decent BV with around 900 as well. It is very fast regarding movement/ strafe speed and ads, so it is ultra snappy. And especially if you strafe on a head glitch it is very hard for opponents.
And it probably gets overlooked by AI because of the dmg/ mag. But you can reload fast and in Solos/ Duos it is my weapon of choice
The reason why they buffed the evolvere and new shotgun is b/c there's a new bundle with both
I have a gold membership! I love supporting you and what you do for the community. I would love to hear when we will see sniper support. Thanks for what you do!
Sick hair Tony. Didnt get past that. Kidding - Ive been waiting for this vid for so long it hurts. Thanks man.
The Sidewinder has reset issues, it does not center correctly. I really really wanted to use the MTZ556 on FK, but damn WAM7 just guns me every time. Tony, is the merch store ever going to come back? Great Video
SVA i think is one of the best for long range atm, also instead of putting it into single fire i keep it in auto and you can burst it very similar to single fire. burst mid to long range and im still in auto in case anyone got extremely close.
SVA still loyal, does some crazy shit when you need it too. But I feel like it got nerfed. I’m still using the outdated WSP and SVA meta, haven’t been on for like a month since school started. So I noticed the aim assist doesn’t snap on as good when their running away, and my phone wsp swarm is shooting everywhere.
@@kevinb718 still my main go to SVA and WSP9. WSP i run sonic supp, Hiss short barrel, 50 mag, and either DR6 handstop or skeletal vertical( i have a setup with both) and mk3 sight/nydar. SVA vt-7, STV barrel, 5.45 high grain, 60 round and corio 2.5/slate.
@@a7x266 UPDATE: Holger 26 is crazy, had to start running the wsp 9 and holger combo. Kill rate increased after.
@@kevinb718 yea its been op for awhile now. it and the SVA are the 2 long range i use the most. BP50 being 3rd
Great Job Tony! Big respect for your work ! Keep it up !
I find the SVA on single tap allows you to play with other non-recoil reducing attachments. I've been using high grain, long barrel, sonic supp, 60, slate. The BV is amazing
Ram 7 and shotty or ram 7 and sniper. Ram is consistent ttk over full body. Still unbeatable under 40M
got a shotty build to share? would love to try
Ram 9, HRM 9, and AMR 9 are all better.. AMR 9 is even better at long range. BP50 is also better at long range technically
@Chip118 well no but ok
Holger 26 seems like a peashooter, really tried running it for a couple of weeks. Just doesn’t seem to hit at distance. Running the BP50 instead
High fire rate, makes it deadly. You have to drill ppl with it. But I was single tapping it yesterday across the skyscrapers and getting hit markers, it's not such a peashooter, the range is good
Loving the new looks! 😎
For resurgence I run BP50 with long barrel, spirit supressor and high grain round. Of course its iron sight, but that gun is sweeeeet. Perfect subs for the RAM7.
BP50 is awesome
It's fun but not big enough mag size for resurgence due to the amount of people around. Unless you're just playing duos or solos?
@@bighaus224 yeah agree. Wish the mag was at least 60 😅 but I guess thay is what is making this gun more balanced
Would love too see a new sniper support video!
Does your research tell you the average distance for most long range engagements? I’d say 40-60 is probably where most engagements take place but that’s just from feel and play. Curious if the research supports that.
Not me salivating when I see a new meta vid 😂
Great video, I am just curious why the holger 26 ranks so much higher than the dg58 lsw they are essentially the same gun?? Keep up the great work Tony!
I’ve built a really nice MTZ556 build
Muzzle ZEHM35 compensator
Barrel Clinch pro
50 rnd mag
Stock MTZ marauder
Underbarrel Bruen heavy support
terrible velocity.
Great work as always! We appreciate you tons in the community. Thank you good sir!
They need to fix the servers... why do I die so damn quickly now? On my screen I die in 3shots... when I watch the kill cam the guys has been shooting me of a couple of seconds...I have a new Xbox and a fast connection. Game is unplayable ATM... and I'm not the only one... tacticalbrit made a video about it a few days ago
Dear Tony, despite the below subpar work of a game COD has given us in the past few years, you continue to bust your ass and create complete guides for us. Your efforts never go unnoticed, God bless you sir.
Great video but why does meta gen only give 4 attachments instead of 5?
Great video, as always! Only disagreement I have is with your STB 556 build... The FTAC FB20 barrel puts you in a weird spot between the 20" Bruen S-620 (better range, similar velocity and less movement penalties) and the Bruen Turaco 686mm (integrated silencer which frees up a spot for an ADS laser or STIP 40 grip for even better recoil control). I'm running the Bruen Turaco 686mm currently but I've never seen the point of the FTAC FB20 with how much it slows you down with its own penalties + a Spiritfire Suppressor.
And shhhh about the DG-58... a very slept on gun.
Appreciate the hard work please drop the sniper support meta vid
appreciate your work. your help has definitely improved my casual enjoyment of the game
imo ranges after 50-60m are irrelevant in urzikstan for non-sniper guns. So ram7|mtz-762 is the only options
I noticed after all the new updates the whole mw2 reticle not landing on where your center dot is aiming is back. I know they had fixed it with the new season so it appears it’s not functioning correctly.
Tony would you expand a bit on how Metagen picks attachments (regarding those "default settings" you mentioned), maybe in a future video? Because sometimes they seems really off to me.
A clear example is the RAM-7: why the vertical grip when the horizontal bounce is the main problem with the recoil pattern of the gun? The bruen underbarrell should be a way better fit, i also swap it for the control grip on resurgence since it doesnt hurt ads and still provides visual clearness over decent recoil control.
DG-58 still feels like the best option vs. the Ram7. Its bullet velocity and accuracy makes it so damn good at ripping players off headys and beaming kids out of the sky.
Is it just me or does the holger 26 build that it suggests kinda suck? I thought it was supposed to be the "long range king" it seems kinda bouncy with this setup tbh
Does metagen exclude smgs from long range? Or does it just think the AMR9 isnt good for mid-long range?
Had my own Bruen build before. Trusted MetaGen, was not disappointed
Thanks Tony! Much appreciated!! Keep it up man. Your work and channel is so underrated. 😔
Why do blueprints keep resetting to default in loadouts? This bug has been around since season 1.
The AMR9 AR build is actually the best AR overall for the average player. Great recoil and the fastest time to kill at close and long range by alot. Nobody talks about it! The fact that it runs SMG ammo is a downside but worth the tradeoff for how fast it kills
What’s the build?
Tony (TGD) literally posted 2 builds on twitter regarding AMR-9, he talked about how good the gun is a lot.
@charliex9065 Lacerta compensater, engorcer long barrel, high grain rounds, 50 round mag (100 round mag makes ads strafe speed too slow) and a 1x optic like a slate reflector to minimize the amount you have to control recoil. This specific build is the ONLY good build for the AMR9, any other build either suffers from lack of recoil control or bullet velocity. One of the long range builds Tony recommended didn't have high grain rounds on it which is crucial for bullet velocity on this weapon.
@smokyx you're right, I don't keep up with his Twitter but to be fair the build that he posted was decent but suffers from bullet velocity due to having no high grain rounds on his build. Still my point is that nobody is talking about this gun, which is statistically the fastest killing AR and very easy to use and literally the number 1 AR in the game.
Got my meta AR, meta SMG, graphic and controller settings set, I’m still trash 😂
For the Holger 26 i replaced the underbarrel for high grain ammo, still very low recoil.
Why does the RAM7 have one of the worst long range recoils on the base weapon but using the JakBFB and other recoil attachments I can get it to be more accurate than most other guns using similar builds? Is it because the base just has a larger magnitude than others but is actually less bouncy/more predictable?
Thank you!
SVA is so good for TTK, long range, velocity and for general movement! Silent META in my opinion forget the RAM
Awesome work mate.
Appreciate the hard work 💪🏻
I cant even build a loadout until i watch TGD.
Im liking the MTZ-762 right now, just wish it had even a 45 round mag. I am not a fan of fast shooting peashooters.
Why there are 4 attachments? The fifth one is the Optic? What if we use the iron sight like Ram-7? What would be the best attachment for the fifth one?
I was using the sva last night and it felt much weaker than before
Thanks Tony. Great video.
What about the BP50? I'm surprised it's not there.
I run cronen barrel harbinger supressor bruen heavy underbarrel 60 and 3.4 stock on the ram it’s a laser beam lot of ppl run the jak but kills velocity by 18% the harbinger puts you at like 980 on velocity
How come the screens only show 4 attachments
Loved the Holger for a while now. It just beams
*sva you do NOT need to switch firing modes you can keep it on full auto if you prefer and tap to get the same low recoil and two bullet tap.
Go test it in the firing range same shots to kill.
Just an fyi the firing range dummies aren’t accurate
These need to be taken with a huge grain of salt. Recoil is weighed way too heavily into the equation. Holger 26 is not a 10 it just has literally no recoil. TTK should be king when determining the meta.
its the best lmg but doesn't touch ram 7 or mtz 762
Ttk don't matter if you can't hit shots
It’s definitely a key factor but there are many more things which define a meta.
Accuracy can easily outweigh raw TTK
Fire rate makes a gun more forgiving
Mag size/reload time for the aggressors
ADS/StF depending on how you approach engagements impacts that TTK
I think I will have to join the team … you are a clever guy and would like to support your hard work ❤
BP50's TTK is arguably better than ram-7 tho
Appreciate the work you dos dude, it's interesting.
holger's shooting popcorn, mtz 762 & bruen are the way to go :)
Excellent work as always appreciated
What about Amr9 built for long range it feels great?
Needed best ranked build for bad player (me). So thank you.
Also, nice haircut. Looks good.
Did the full auto lachman 762 get nerfed or is it pure terrible now, I swear it used to have insane ttk
Why does the website still show old damage stats for tac evo and incorrect stats when using poly lmg with the kit? Damage doesnt change but shows it does on tgd? 🤔🤔
Holger has been meta for 2 months now, now everybody gonna play it
I actually like the Sidewinder, kills really fast.
My MTZ 556 is back 🥹
Can you make a video on the non disclosed TYR damage nerf to the lower torso. This makes it a less reliable 2 shot. In game stats no longer match your website.
I've been using the Holger for the last few weeks and it's ridiculously good once you get a nice build and then get used to it.
The MTZ 556 on the other hand just isn't it. Hitting moving targets with it is not easy because of that terrible bullet velocity. I'd take the BP50 over it any day since it has much better bullet velocity, less recoil and a much faster ttk in that first damage range, so you can still be very effective with it if you have to use it up close.
@TrueGameData hey man, great content. What stat makes a gun "hit hard" in COD? As far inflicting flinch and perceived impact from getting shot?
Thanks Tony, another banger vid!
Wonder why there are always only 4 attachment recommendations? Is the 5th slot saved for an optic?
Thanks Tony the goat for this informative vid!
Thoughts on a AR build with AMR?
best ttk,but if start recoil will be better,its gonna be toptier,as striker 9 as AR
@@magicianGOD recoil is better than the ram and the ttk is better
@@asmrfiend8063 no, RAM recoil is still n1
He;s hiding it again because he don't want it nerfed. But really it's more a mid range/close range build you can shoot long range but it's a bit jumpy.
I’m stupid and haven’t watched a whole video from tdg before. Does he explain why there’s only 4 attachments listed on the right instead of 5?
Thanks for the vid and effort🤗💪
No one talking abput the MCW i literally shred with that. Its about hitting shots anfmd the gun does not miss!
Can we add the AMR9 build into this?? Amazing video!
But now the normal Pulemyot is better right after the nerf of the JAK kit? Anyways, also more accurate to me
For some reason I don't see the Morn-20 Grip as an option on the Holger 26. Interesting.
Me neither, I use Bruen Heavy and it works well
You should test where is the most amount of engagement for long range
Again, very well done.
Personaly id put the bas b higher imo still feels really good
Sorry if this is a rookie question, but why do all of these only show four attachments?
They need to fix the 40 round mag on the mtz 7.62. Either give everyone 40 round or remove the glitched 40 round saved custom blueprints
Might try those lmg's out
Please, try amr9 build as an AR with 2.5 sight
The ram either needs to get a close range nerf or a recoil increase. Right now it is just too easy to get that super low TTK out to 30 or 40 m and there's no point in using anything else.
I cannot figure out how to unlock the holger factory barrel I need a 1st grader explanation
Nice! 💪 Closemeta video coming up? 🏆😊
I am for sureeeee gonna run the 545 AK & the scar H
Hey thanks for the video! I thought there’s 5 attachments these are only showing 4?
Because the optic you choose, does not matter.
Is the DG-58 LSW with the conversion kit not good ? I thought it had one of the best ttks
Why isn’t the mtz 762 used in semi auto? Ttk looks crazy in that mode
im new to your channel why does meta gen only have 4 attachments is the 5th one for like if you want to add something or is that for the optic just wondering love your breakdowns though found you from icemanissac
Tony is truly the Goat
Thanks so much for these🤙
I just don't know why they bring a ram 9 into the mix if the ram 7 is king at close range. If you run the ram ram loady then your shy with reach
Great video man!