Ty for doing all of this for us. Im a new Tekken player and all of your videos have helped me so much as a good leaping off point for things. It means alot that others are willing to help everyone on their journey regardless of where we are on that journey❤❤❤.
Figure out which moves transition into SEN(that's his most dangerous stance) and SSR, block...you can deal with everything. My preferred way is SWL...you get hit by SEN 3+4 and the homing (I think it's SEN 4). This method evades the other moves and you can launch punish every single one of them. I only labbed this stance tho😅
Man you don’t realise how I needed this. I already beaten a Senryu because of you. Thank you so much ! Hope you will do an anti Yoshi. Even a Yellow rank can beat me with him… I understand nothing 😭
When it comes to Iai stance, even if you don't duck his gun, if the victor transitions into stance point blank, he is basically unsafe. You can mash your 10 hit punish and beat everything he does, he also can't block in the stance. You can use any up to 15 frame move to beat all his options except his power crush which will be beaten by 10 frames as stated above or a throw. So don't let them get away with their bullshit.
Another counter to Explusion in heat if u REALLY know hes gonna do it or also react to him doing it as its i30, activate your heat and cancel it you will actually get a punish as if Victor whiffs the move which by the way has a lot of recovery. Bare in mind tho that move does a shit ton of dmg so i would only do this when I know my combo would kill and I wont die myself.
Yo these are helping out vid by vid for me….can we get a counter video for Lars and that little annoyance called Xiaoyu please? They seem like they bring anything at times even more than Victor
Which one? His normal one (the dagger one) or his Iai one (the knee into sword slash)? His normal one has _no_ tracking, but his Iai one tracks you if you sidestep right.
@@genzo454no, it tracks. It absolutely tracks. I got hit multiple times when I was basically 90 degrees to almost behind him. The move has a very weird hitbox that is basically his body, kinda like Paul's shoulder, that teleports and clips into models and literally hits from behind. It's so annoying how unbalanced and random this game is. So many characters have literally no counterplay. Like xiaoyu and jun (how on earth does xiaoyu get a safe 10 frame, high,high, mid that can't be stepped, a ridiculous heat smash and a -11 on block low launcher. All while art of Phoenix crushes EVERYTHING, every single high and mid, and 90% of lows as well. There most characters don't have a single mid that hits her during her AoP bs. How on earth does jun get a mid high high string that jails, tracks and is + on block? And her heat smash 100% tracks, has full screen range and heals her on block and does chip?!? It's LITERALLY a free heal and free chip damage every single round. Who is responsible for balancing that such things are allowed? How does devil Jin get a full screen tracking mid heat smash that does stupid damage?!! Why does king's heat smash do like 70 damage and is +on block with a GUARANTEED mix up between an unbreakable grab for 50 damage or a safe mid? People cry about dragunov but HOLY FK, he is game compared to the top tiers. He doesn't get free stuff and he has counterplay. You can step every single attack he does to get + frames and he has AWFUL tracking and mids that are basically highs...the problem with him being that grabs track now. So he is dangerous because if grabs, a universal mechanic and buff to everyone. Like king, getting the FULL chain grab for free if CH). Yeah, Tekken 8 is fun...for now because it's new. But it's a complete and utter mess. Tournaments are gonna be clown shows. The game feels like an alpha for balance. At this point I'd rather get Tekken 7 with Tekken 8 graphics, loading times and net code and keep playing that instead, even with dlc power creep. Oh god... Can you imagine TEKKEN 8 DLC CHARACTERS?!?! 😱 It's over. They are gonna be so busted it's gonna be a nightmare.
@@kato093bro this game is ridiculous I’m starting to really hate it Victor has U1+2 in heat is basically free damage on hit or block and I have to just stand there and take it up the ass Same goes with Jun, Devijin, and King heat smashes like there’s literally nothing I can do wtf
@@adeebh1238 up to blue ranks victors are complete scrubs with zero defense, movement or game sense. They entirely rely on moves and gimmicks. Getting attacked? U1+2 power crush or low ch launcher. Footsies? Who needs them, Just spam wr2 or pistol. All attacks have infinite range anyway
Can someone explain how to deal with Victor's that turtle and play fff2 spam? I tried sidestepping the move and it's basically impossible for me unless you can read the future 5 steps ahead. Unlike other characters running move. What do I do about this? I'm forced to play back and wait for them to fight me because if not I get ch launched from that busted move
Its T8 - you try to break their defense. Be aggressive with jabs, dash block to cover distance, chip with lows. Should make them duck or try to interrupt (probably interrupt with powercrush, knowing that most victor players are new) - then you just punish that. If that still dosent break the turtle, try throws and big lows, or they should be by the wall by then. Applied properly with good timing and a cool head, this should get every victor to rethink their strategy below king ranks.
99% of victor players are AWFUL and are getting carried. You should try to use a safe long reaching move as keep out. You gotta outspam them cuz they have literally ZERO defense and they will try to panic move with expulsiòn. They will start to respect frames and your turns a bit more after you launch their expulsiòn a few times and then you will utterly destroy them cuz they don't know how to play. I've never seen so many red ranks and even ruler ranks with absolutely ZERO idea on how to play and zero fundamentals, getting hard carried by the character. It's like Leroy all over again. Except victor is not that strong. This time it's xioayu and jun..which are 2 times stronger than Tekken 7 launch Leroy. If the devs don't nerf xioayu and jun, I'm fkn quitting the game. There's no point when those 2 exist with their own tiers. If next patch doesn't massively nerf them, TWT will be a guaranteed win for arslan ash with jun and a bit of azucena with her dumb wr. No competition. Hope knee and others don't tier whore and top 8 aren't a bunch of Juns and xioayus
As a victor main..these tips ur giving are for noob victors and make ppl play mix ups against a good victor… … good victors knowledge check and just play the counters to common check.. which end up to be more damage …like f 1 there are 6 mix ups you didn’t talk about but told them to punish cus it’s -13 lol.. And you said he dosnt have a crouch game which is crazy because he has a safe launch mix up with WR2, d12,or wr12 that puts him into stance… victor is a whif punish mix up character at medium and high level. Knowing basic punishes just put you further into the mix…he’s not a string mix up character cause as you said most of his moves are negative. He uses spacing makes you hard read his 1 of 6 options then punishes you for wrong guess and spaces again. I suggest you make another vid and approach it from all the possibilities. This guide just puts ppl into the blender.
You are correct. But i think this video is aimed at exactly the people who are struggling with the basic punishment and specifically the lv1 braindead mix, that all victors below fujin are doing. But again, you are correct. And overall, all these videos that describe how to „counter“ a character are only an Intro to the basics and hard knowledge you need to have to even fight a character in tekken. Obviously any guide against a character, no matter how good it is, will never lead to you automatically win every time against a character. You can know every single frame state , every single OS, every single character specific interaction and you still will get hit , mixed and launched. But i get your point.
This video is for people who struggle even beginning to counter Victor. He is a new character, so a lot of Victors get away with constant knowledge checking. IMO the only place you can start to counter a character is with the knowledge. This is where most people are with the match up.
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Ty for doing all of this for us. Im a new Tekken player and all of your videos have helped me so much as a good leaping off point for things. It means alot that others are willing to help everyone on their journey regardless of where we are on that journey❤❤❤.
We need a Lars counter ASAP! Everytime i play against him, i have absolutely no idea of whats going on
Figure out which moves transition into SEN(that's his most dangerous stance) and SSR, block...you can deal with everything.
My preferred way is SWL...you get hit by SEN 3+4 and the homing (I think it's SEN 4). This method evades the other moves and you can launch punish every single one of them.
I only labbed this stance tho😅
That Knee part I didn’t know. Im def ducking now.
Man you don’t realise how I needed this. I already beaten a Senryu because of you. Thank you so much !
Hope you will do an anti Yoshi. Even a Yellow rank can beat me with him… I understand nothing 😭
A lot of this was news to me. Launching him during the teleport is huge to me.
Also, it's called Iai stance (with a capital i, not an L) so it would be pronounced (eye-eye), it stems from Iaido, a japanese martial art
E eye stance
How does Victor shift to lai stance immediately after running 2 - asterim of virtue?
viktor is the god he will never lose
ty for the videos, took some notes 👍, +1 sub
When it comes to Iai stance, even if you don't duck his gun, if the victor transitions into stance point blank, he is basically unsafe. You can mash your 10 hit punish and beat everything he does, he also can't block in the stance. You can use any up to 15 frame move to beat all his options except his power crush which will be beaten by 10 frames as stated above or a throw.
So don't let them get away with their bullshit.
Except that the low crush your 10frame punish. Yet 10frame should deny the powercrush, here is the victor mixup
@@jetaime4431 no, the low does not high crush fast enough. There is no mix up on block.
really cool! is every gun move the same, or is frame advantage different for some?
it's the same for all of them afaik@@SapSapirot
@@JokeZ1337then its not high crush, evades highs wich is different
Another counter to Explusion in heat if u REALLY know hes gonna do it or also react to him doing it as its i30, activate your heat and cancel it you will actually get a punish as if Victor whiffs the move which by the way has a lot of recovery. Bare in mind tho that move does a shit ton of dmg so i would only do this when I know my combo would kill and I wont die myself.
Yo these are helping out vid by vid for me….can we get a counter video for Lars and that little annoyance called Xiaoyu please? They seem like they bring anything at times even more than Victor
Just joined. Can you do counter for Feng next? Keep getting mauled by him and his back sway move thing
Am I crazy or does his power crush track
Which one? His normal one (the dagger one) or his Iai one (the knee into sword slash)? His normal one has _no_ tracking, but his Iai one tracks you if you sidestep right.
@@genzo454no, it tracks. It absolutely tracks. I got hit multiple times when I was basically 90 degrees to almost behind him.
The move has a very weird hitbox that is basically his body, kinda like Paul's shoulder, that teleports and clips into models and literally hits from behind.
It's so annoying how unbalanced and random this game is.
So many characters have literally no counterplay. Like xiaoyu and jun (how on earth does xiaoyu get a safe 10 frame, high,high, mid that can't be stepped, a ridiculous heat smash and a -11 on block low launcher. All while art of Phoenix crushes EVERYTHING, every single high and mid, and 90% of lows as well. There most characters don't have a single mid that hits her during her AoP bs.
How on earth does jun get a mid high high string that jails, tracks and is + on block? And her heat smash 100% tracks, has full screen range and heals her on block and does chip?!? It's LITERALLY a free heal and free chip damage every single round.
Who is responsible for balancing that such things are allowed? How does devil Jin get a full screen tracking mid heat smash that does stupid damage?!!
Why does king's heat smash do like 70 damage and is +on block with a GUARANTEED mix up between an unbreakable grab for 50 damage or a safe mid?
People cry about dragunov but HOLY FK, he is game compared to the top tiers. He doesn't get free stuff and he has counterplay. You can step every single attack he does to get + frames and he has AWFUL tracking and mids that are basically highs...the problem with him being that grabs track now. So he is dangerous because if grabs, a universal mechanic and buff to everyone. Like king, getting the FULL chain grab for free if CH).
Yeah, Tekken 8 is fun...for now because it's new. But it's a complete and utter mess. Tournaments are gonna be clown shows. The game feels like an alpha for balance. At this point I'd rather get Tekken 7 with Tekken 8 graphics, loading times and net code and keep playing that instead, even with dlc power creep.
Oh god... Can you imagine TEKKEN 8 DLC CHARACTERS?!?! 😱
It's over. They are gonna be so busted it's gonna be a nightmare.
@@kato093bro this game is ridiculous I’m starting to really hate it
Victor has U1+2 in heat is basically free damage on hit or block and I have to just stand there and take it up the ass
Same goes with Jun, Devijin, and King heat smashes like there’s literally nothing I can do wtf
@@adeebh1238 up to blue ranks victors are complete scrubs with zero defense, movement or game sense. They entirely rely on moves and gimmicks.
Getting attacked? U1+2 power crush or low ch launcher.
Footsies? Who needs them, Just spam wr2 or pistol. All attacks have infinite range anyway
Hey dude, great video. Would you consider doing one for Bryan or Jun? I never know when it's my turn against these characters.
As a King main, I dont have a big problem with Victor and Im Mighty Ruler Rank
Can someone explain how to deal with Victor's that turtle and play fff2 spam?
I tried sidestepping the move and it's basically impossible for me unless you can read the future 5 steps ahead. Unlike other characters running move.
What do I do about this? I'm forced to play back and wait for them to fight me because if not I get ch launched from that busted move
Its T8 - you try to break their defense. Be aggressive with jabs, dash block to cover distance, chip with lows. Should make them duck or try to interrupt (probably interrupt with powercrush, knowing that most victor players are new) - then you just punish that. If that still dosent break the turtle, try throws and big lows, or they should be by the wall by then. Applied properly with good timing and a cool head, this should get every victor to rethink their strategy below king ranks.
99% of victor players are AWFUL and are getting carried.
You should try to use a safe long reaching move as keep out.
You gotta outspam them cuz they have literally ZERO defense and they will try to panic move with expulsiòn.
They will start to respect frames and your turns a bit more after you launch their expulsiòn a few times and then you will utterly destroy them cuz they don't know how to play.
I've never seen so many red ranks and even ruler ranks with absolutely ZERO idea on how to play and zero fundamentals, getting hard carried by the character. It's like Leroy all over again. Except victor is not that strong.
This time it's xioayu and jun..which are 2 times stronger than Tekken 7 launch Leroy. If the devs don't nerf xioayu and jun, I'm fkn quitting the game. There's no point when those 2 exist with their own tiers.
If next patch doesn't massively nerf them, TWT will be a guaranteed win for arslan ash with jun and a bit of azucena with her dumb wr. No competition. Hope knee and others don't tier whore and top 8 aren't a bunch of Juns and xioayus
As a victor main..these tips ur giving are for noob victors and make ppl play mix ups against a good victor… … good victors knowledge check and just play the counters to common check.. which end up to be more damage …like f 1 there are 6 mix ups you didn’t talk about but told them to punish cus it’s -13 lol..
And you said he dosnt have a crouch game which is crazy because he has a safe launch mix up with WR2, d12,or wr12 that puts him into stance… victor is a whif punish mix up character at medium and high level. Knowing basic punishes just put you further into the mix…he’s not a string mix up character cause as you said most of his moves are negative. He uses spacing makes you hard read his 1 of 6 options then punishes you for wrong guess and spaces again. I suggest you make another vid and approach it from all the possibilities. This guide just puts ppl into the blender.
You are correct. But i think this video is aimed at exactly the people who are struggling with the basic punishment and specifically the lv1 braindead mix, that all victors below fujin are doing. But again, you are correct. And overall, all these videos that describe how to „counter“ a character are only an Intro to the basics and hard knowledge you need to have to even fight a character in tekken. Obviously any guide against a character, no matter how good it is, will never lead to you automatically win every time against a character. You can know every single frame state , every single OS, every single character specific interaction and you still will get hit , mixed and launched. But i get your point.
This video is for people who struggle even beginning to counter Victor. He is a new character, so a lot of Victors get away with constant knowledge checking. IMO the only place you can start to counter a character is with the knowledge. This is where most people are with the match up.
When victor say this, never take victor words. Why? Cause that character is a braindead. So just ignore
@@ShinEeeeT8 imagine responding emotionally to a logical statement.
@@Ohanzeayou play a brain dead character your opinion is invalid
Thanks bro
See red slash, Do launch punish
Jun next
"punish his moves and don't get grabbed"...oh really ...wow😮💨🙄 🤦♂
Anti guide on devil jin
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@idleeagle look for it the moment I finish typing this and watch it over and over a few times thank you for help
Nah u still ducking