Superstar Saga, but there's WAY too many rules...

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  • @AquaticSky
    @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +25

    Who is your MVP bro?
    This is something new I wanted to try out! Hope you guys enjoy!

    • @GlitchythePumpkin
      @GlitchythePumpkin 6 месяцев назад +6

      weegee
      Also what are multistats

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +5

      @@GlitchythePumpkin nice choice! Also multi stats is increasing more than one stat in the roulette. Like HP or Defense. I can only increase one of the 6 stats.

    • @GlitchythePumpkin
      @GlitchythePumpkin 6 месяцев назад +3

      you mean 6? Theres hp, pow, def, speed, stache and bp
      also thx

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +3

      @@GlitchythePumpkin ye I miss counted. Also Np!

    • @le-eddo
      @le-eddo 2 месяца назад +3

      Luigi always carrys me

  • @javtendogaming9109
    @javtendogaming9109 3 месяца назад +107

    This challenge is the reason why I fight every single enemy I see on my casual playthroughs, because without leveling up you’re going to be so under leveled that you’ll most likely die in 2-3 hits

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +22

      Yeah that was the problem with the majority for the challenge until we got the barriers.

    • @erickferrero6163
      @erickferrero6163 Месяц назад

      When I tried to beat the final boss, I was on level 38... It was a nightmare

  • @cosmicrift2763
    @cosmicrift2763 3 месяца назад +42

    22:45 This is because the bros’ levels are weird in these games, mario levels up faster than luigi in the beginning but then they swap and luigi requires less xp to level up, and so on swapping every once in a while

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +6

      Interesting thanks for the information!

    • @cosmicrift2763
      @cosmicrift2763 3 месяца назад +2

      @@AquaticSky no prob!

  • @MLmaster135
    @MLmaster135 3 месяца назад +25

    Interestingly I tried what's called a Nerve Mode of DS BIS and the rules were:
    1. Jump/Hammer/Punch/Fire Breath only, no specials allowed
    2. no items, no heals(exceptions are the heals in badge tutorial+4 Sockhop battle)
    3. no equipment/Badges(there's an exception for Dark Star, Dark Fawful+Vacuum helmet's combined 4k hp+5 turn wait time, and Dark Bowser's estimated 475k/500k hp in 1500 revives)
    4. +1 level per area arc. say its bowser's turn in story, he gets +1 level, if its the bros, they get +1 level
    5. Shroob fight is required and forced(they do near 900 damage). its very easy and they only give 900 exp, no +1 level specifically before that fight.
    6. Bowser is allowed to heal w/Vacuum on say Beehoss and Treevils, cuz Vacuum command is important, and same for Refreshrooms, as they're temporary giant battle items so they can be used. he still dies in 1-2 hits late-game.
    I can confirm Dark Star is the most difficult boss in DS BIS but am unsure about the remake:
    Dark Star, while normally easy cuz the game assumes you're using equips and stuff, actually is the hardest boss in the game by far. in fact I can confirm it is completely impossible to defeat Dark Star at level 22. the lowest level the bros would be at. there's several reasons.
    the 1st is that Dark Star outspeeds at level 22. because of that, when its made vulnerable, it will rise up on its turn immediately after the bros go during that cycle cuz its faster than them.
    the 2nd, the Dark Satellmites can heal it for over 120 hp by the 2nd-3rd cycle, much more than you deal even w/Excellent+POW badge(required).
    3rd, the 4 color orb attack. if its "4 of the same color" and it specifically goes "Top to Bottom" you're screwed, as its near-impossible to avoid if you don't jump correctly by the 2nd orb.
    I found the reason for this is cuz Dark Star bats the 3rd and 4th orbs too fast to be jumped over.
    you jump the 3rd, but the 4th will always catch the bro right in their "hitbox" right as they jump. I can confirm this is true.
    I found and tested that this's most deff cuz its "Closer" to the screen as to why its not avoidable if you screw the 2nd jump up.
    Dark Star's deff the most aggressive boss in the game under such rules, in fact the only way you can actually beat it with such rules is at exactly level 35. at level 35 Mario, w/no speed upgrades(via level or equips),
    outspeeds it, so he gets 1 extra turn in its vulnerable cycle.
    combined with excellent+POW badge(this is required. I can confirm this.) this's legit the only way to beat the Dark Star.
    The remake's what I'm uncertain of, cuz I heard the 4 color orb attack from specifically "Top to Bottom" is thankfully nerfed, cuz DS BIS it was near-unavoidable for the reasons above, you had to be frame perfect by the 2nd orb there or you just die to it.
    but I'm happy to confirm its possible to beat BIS like this. it deff wasn't intended to at all but deff possible.🤲
    the Excellent+Pow badge's deff required for the final 3 fights without a doubt.
    Partners in Time is really similar to this, but you only need the bros items the game gives you naturally(no buying bros items and no badges.)+can farm mrs Thwomp no problems. I can confirm Level 23 is the sweet-spot to beating PiT's Nerve Mode.
    You can deff beat it at the level of 19, which's where you'd be at, but its basically a TAS after Elder Princess Shroob's 1st phase cuz of 400 hp foot+damage being pathetic. so 23's the true level otherwise. 🤔

    • @GlitchythePumpkin
      @GlitchythePumpkin 3 месяца назад +3

      You took all this time to write this for no likes? Don't worry I got you

    • @phictionofgrandeur2387
      @phictionofgrandeur2387 2 месяца назад +2

      Another streamer also has a challenge called nerve mode. Where do you think the term originated?

    • @MLmaster135
      @MLmaster135 2 месяца назад

      @@phictionofgrandeur2387 hrm I actually ain't sure where the term nerve mode originated.
      I only saw it when scrolling through youtube one day by a person who did it for both Partners in Time and Superstar Saga, if you type in Superstar Saga/Partners in Time nerve mode, you'll deff be able to find their walkthrough and videos on it

    • @MLmaster135
      @MLmaster135 2 месяца назад

      @@phictionofgrandeur2387 I actually don't know where the term nerve mode originated.
      as far as I know, I found it via searching superstar saga and partners in time nerve mode, where there's a youtuber who completed both games.
      I can confirm that Dream Team Nerve mode is possible(provided you go Stache on level 2, Pow on level 3, continuing in this specific order) but also impossible.(ignoring Grobot X completely as its arbitrary, has forced plot item Zeekeeper Feathers+forced 6 turn limit. level 18 w/best equipment's+half off bp equip on weegee how you beat it. it doesn't count against Nerve mode at all, cuz its a main story item inside optional content.)
      a majority of the bosses can be beaten w/Jump/Hammer only, ignoring Heavy Zest+Beef Cloud cuz they require badges. thus, you're required to get the +1 Badge slot for both bros at level 8.
      all up until Pi'illodium and all through Dreamy Bowser, where those require badges.
      specifically Miracle+Silver's reset to start of battle state badge+Risk+Gold's 100-350 damage everyone badge and Guard+Expert's 3 turn immortality.
      Dreamy Bowser requires Energy/Charge Wear+Taunt balls to even beat him otherwise you're soft-locked.

      I'll confirm that Charge Gloves DX is actually a legal equip, cuz it doesn't boost stats. just speeds up the badge stock grind vs Hermite Crabs/Hermite Crab Rs(best way to grind). it only saves a few turns.
      Mammoshka and Wiggler are extremely inconsistent and have 0 tells. Mammoshka, its the chase attack cuz it has 0 warning of speeding up or slowing down ie little time to react.
      the boulder throw is also kinda bad cuz a bro can just get hit even if you timed it right. so badges+Bros attacks are allowed for it.
      Wiggler's only problem is the enraged Shockwave when Popple climbs it.
      that enraged shockwave has literally 0 tell that its gonna go slow, which is bad when you're primed for the normal fast one. so badges+Bros attacks are allowed for Wiggler, but not Popple as he's easy to beat.
      these 2 bosses are technically run-enders, but I did get Mammoshka's hp to exactly 320 w/o bros attacks or badges, so its deff possible for both bosses.
      but I can confirm Pi'illodium's the true run ender cuz it heals for 160 hp(need taunt ball to minimize heal)
      same for Kamek 3. run-ender. far too tanky w/3400hp across 4 enemies.
      Paper Jam.. yeah I can confirm Paper Jam's even more built different than Dream Team, to the point trying to Nerve mode is a fool's errand, its not possible at all.
      most you can do is no copies for Paper Mario, plus try to minimize the Bowser Medallion hunt forced Fire Bro exp(ie can get close to level up, but don't level up)
      but I can confirm it is possible for several bosses like the koopalings and Petey+Paper Petey(Paper Petey will take forever cuz of its 34 hp copies, and you don't wanna spend hours getting baited by da double shockwave, but its possible)
      but ultimately, Paper Jam's where Nerve mode truly ends as its not possible at all cept for a few fights

  • @sixtales7681
    @sixtales7681 6 месяцев назад +18

    Can I ask a question. How the fuck is fixing the plumbing the key to taking down a security system, which in turn leaves open the bean bean kingdom's sacred star?

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +4

      Haha just some Mario and Luigi Shenanigan the plumbing is what locks it's protection so it's kinda like a safe fail-safe for the BeanStar.

    • @sixtales7681
      @sixtales7681 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@AquaticSky And now I'm just waiting on you challenge Pokémon Unbound, cuz that'll be fun.

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +2

      For sure! I need to think of a challenge run the game.

    • @sixtales7681
      @sixtales7681 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@AquaticSky Well there a few in game features you could try. Here, I can let you know on discord.

  • @Noobiegaming31
    @Noobiegaming31 2 месяца назад +9

    Technically only buffing power is superstar saga’s easy mode so i think it could have been harder

  • @thegreatattack
    @thegreatattack 6 месяцев назад +6

    This video is so underated like fr when I started to watch this I thought you were more popular but damn you deserve more likes and subs and views because your hilarious and its fun to watch!

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  6 месяцев назад +2

      Hey man, I actually appreciate it! I put a lot of effort into the video so I’m glad there’s some people who enjoyed it!

    • @thegreatattack
      @thegreatattack 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@AquaticSky Of course anytime man! I really enjoyed this!

  • @whatdadogdoin6772
    @whatdadogdoin6772 3 месяца назад +12

    Broooooo the beaaaannzz scene caught me man laughed my ass off for literally half an hour. Love your vids homieee

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +2

      Lmao I’m glad you like it

  • @StarWater-wk3vc
    @StarWater-wk3vc 2 месяца назад +12

    18:36 Not the face raiders laugh

  • @johannkohle4797
    @johannkohle4797 2 месяца назад +4

    Pls do partners in time as well!
    great vid

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +1

      I'm currently editing it rn!

  • @alexdrake4081
    @alexdrake4081 2 месяца назад +3

    Just found your channel, I see a channel glimmering with potential that it’s crazy how you don’t have more subs

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад

      @@alexdrake4081 thank you for the support!

  • @dymaz_azure
    @dymaz_azure 2 месяца назад +5

    This is just how i played the game, just with no items

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +1

      Maybe in another game sense super star saga was done already.

  • @XENORedgrave
    @XENORedgrave 25 дней назад +1

    4:39 ok and..... I IMMEDIATELY REGRET MY DECISION

  • @star_hat
    @star_hat 2 месяца назад +5

    bro I dont mean to be that guy but im pretty sure your breaking your rules by using beans because it goes against the no items rule, or am i wrong and is it a no BATTLE items rule

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +2

      @star_hat no it’s fine I get the confusion. From the very start I meant no items in battle. The list of my rules are in the description.

  • @mangoe19t95
    @mangoe19t95 5 месяцев назад +3

    Are you gonna try other Super Mario & Luigi games with challenge rules? Bowser's Inside Story is one of the best I heard.

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  5 месяцев назад +2

      Ye. I'm currently doing it in Bowser's inside story and boy is it a pain.

    • @phictionofgrandeur2387
      @phictionofgrandeur2387 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AquaticSkyI'm excited for partners in time

  • @phoenixvance6642
    @phoenixvance6642 7 дней назад +1

    Fun fact: a bunch of locations in this game are onomatopoeias of laughter

  • @cosmicrift2763
    @cosmicrift2763 3 месяца назад +4

    nice challenge! playing superstar saga (the original) while intentionally avoiding battles really made the game that much harder, since the bros die so quickly!

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +1

      I’m glad you liked it! I can’t even imagine doing this in the original lol

    • @cosmicrift2763
      @cosmicrift2763 3 месяца назад

      @@AquaticSky to put it simply, the cackletta fight in the middle of the game took me ~10 minutes and several 1-ups… this was also my first time playing the GBA games with their wonky bros attack timings, lol… pretty fun tho

  • @ShadowyNeko
    @ShadowyNeko 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember wanting to know what happens if I waste my coins before reaching the first boss. So I dropped myself down to a singular coin and...
    She still says the same thing. But now 1 Mushroom coin is worth 10 Bean coins! Stonks 😂

  • @adamjjj318
    @adamjjj318 2 месяца назад +2

    Whats up with the M and L with + numbers, at the end of a boss battle. Whats it stand for?

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +1

      A tally on which bro gets the final on each mandatory fight. I used that to find out who the MVP bro is

  • @v-gamer64
    @v-gamer64 Месяц назад +1

    Hey, how come you outlaw drinking the Starbeans Coffee for multistats (0:35) but then go on to use them later on? (30:10)

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  Месяц назад

      I only increased Pow in the Coffee. No Multistats to me is increasing more than one stat in the roulette. Like HP or Defense. I can only increase one of the 6 stats. I can increase one and only one throughout the entire Challenge. I've only increase Pow though out the challenge.

  • @treverset2004
    @treverset2004 3 месяца назад +3

    There’s actually an infinite money trick where if Mario is small and you try to high jump and press A Luigi will give money but it only works if Luigi has HP and when he runs out down to 1 you have refill it for the trick to work again, but it’s not like you’d use it in a challenge lol because y’know infinite money is broken

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +2

      Lmao yeah I considered doing that but the greed wallet kinda made that irrelevant.

  • @BlushiArts
    @BlushiArts 2 месяца назад +4

    Now, play Shin megami tensei nocturne with only Demi fiend

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад

      idk about that lmao I've only played the persona games if anything.

    • @BlushiArts
      @BlushiArts 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AquaticSky I was Joking, ofc you dont have to lol

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад

      I might consider Persona 3 reload with only the protag though!

  • @KoffeeB
    @KoffeeB 2 месяца назад +2

    Time for no fun

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +2

      I had fun!

    • @KoffeeB
      @KoffeeB 2 месяца назад

      @@AquaticSky I meant that a lot of people use it as a joke in their vids, but this seemed like a lot of fun :D

  • @thomaseichler920
    @thomaseichler920 2 месяца назад +1

    When you just enter Woohoo Hooniversity, in the hallway where you would talk to the person that was on the ground before turning into a monster, after defeating him, you would get an accessory: Jumping Boots, they allow whichever Bros. that is wearing it to jump normally regardless of gravity or if one of the Bros. is carrying the other one.

  • @StaticIsJustOkAtGames
    @StaticIsJustOkAtGames 2 месяца назад +1

    video good but christ
    this editing is going to be the death of me, not sure if im just becoming older and better at managing my adhd, but the pacing feels like your speeding down an empty highway

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +1

      No i totally understand lmao. I'ma try toning down the brain rot. Thanks for the criticism!

    • @StaticIsJustOkAtGames
      @StaticIsJustOkAtGames 2 месяца назад

      @@AquaticSky 👍

  • @kilixgamer9914
    @kilixgamer9914 2 месяца назад +2

    I thought multi stat apply to the coffe you said it at 0:37 but then later you brew a lot to get more power...

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад

      @@kilixgamer9914 yeah no multistats means I can’t increase HP if I’m increasing Pow. If I increase Pow it’s gonna stick like that for the whole challenge.

    • @kilixgamer9914
      @kilixgamer9914 2 месяца назад +1

      @@AquaticSky oh I understand, sorry for the confusion

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад

      it's all good!

  • @TailsMilesProwler-1
    @TailsMilesProwler-1 Месяц назад +1

    34:36 can I ask a question? what are you playing the game on? Because it says “now loading” and a 3ds doesn’t do that

    • @hamido-hn2qz
      @hamido-hn2qz Месяц назад +1

      hes using a emulato- I- mean a modded emulator! yes yes! its not a emulator at all! (its the emulator Citra)

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  Месяц назад

      modded 3ds..... Nintendo please no sue

  • @dibbybones2194
    @dibbybones2194 Месяц назад

    4:05 Well actually
    All or most of the enemies should he one shot realistically speaking, cause
    i don't know Mario or luigi's weight but i figure it's around 60k
    So, how many enemies could really take 60k Stomps on the head and not die from it 👆🤓?

  • @OmegaChase1002
    @OmegaChase1002 3 месяца назад +16

    The remakes are NOT harder 💀

    • @carlosemilio385
      @carlosemilio385 2 месяца назад +2

      Well, some aspects of them are.
      I noticed that Cackletta is WAY harder in the remake than in the original.
      Cackletta's moves not only are harder to dodge or counter, but she has more moves now compared to the original.
      Plus, the removal of infinite attacks makes bosses not able to be one shot anymore.

    • @OmegaChase1002
      @OmegaChase1002 2 месяца назад

      @@carlosemilio385 bruh there's HP blocks everywhere, you are NOT dying.

    • @carlosemilio385
      @carlosemilio385 2 месяца назад +1

      @@OmegaChase1002??? I don’t think HP blocks have anything related to do with the fights in general. Sure HP blocks are helpful in the main game and can save you a lot of healing items, but unless you’re decently leveled, the HP blocks are pretty useless. I’m not saying that the remakes are harder than the remakes, I’m saying that some aspects from them are harder.

    • @carlosemilio385
      @carlosemilio385 2 месяца назад +1

      @@OmegaChase1002plus, are you going to see a single HP block during a boss battle?

    • @OmegaChase1002
      @OmegaChase1002 2 месяца назад

      @@carlosemilio385 those blocks ensure that youll always be prepared and be able to save your items for when your need it. also advanced bros moves are easier to do.
      a few extra attacks isnt gonna make a game harder when the games practically holding your hand.

  • @erickferrero6163
    @erickferrero6163 Месяц назад +1

    29:43 I really thought it was my discord

  • @saturn4kk
    @saturn4kk 3 месяца назад +3

    good video👍

  • @thejoke2128
    @thejoke2128 Месяц назад

    I was doing no hit run and i stop after the first battle of cakletta

  • @BCSkylight-id5od
    @BCSkylight-id5od 2 месяца назад +1

    4:41 unfortunately I already did that...

  • @josephparadise9726
    @josephparadise9726 День назад

    The remakes are easier than the easy originals

  • @gvssrsg4162
    @gvssrsg4162 5 месяцев назад +2

    Are you going to do the rest of the games in the series? I'll be waiting for Partners in Time.

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  5 месяцев назад +1

      Oh for sure! I wanna get at least one playthrough PIT first though sense I have never finished that game before. I wanna do that before challenging myself in it. So a BIS too many rules might come out first. Total alpha dream move.

    • @gvssrsg4162
      @gvssrsg4162 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@AquaticSky Cool. If you're going to emulate it, here's a tip; download the European version of the game, since it's much more balanced than the American one.

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@gvssrsg4162 oh for real! Sounds good. The American version sounds like a good challenge also. Thanks for the advice!

    • @gvssrsg4162
      @gvssrsg4162 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@AquaticSky Welcome, bro

    • @phictionofgrandeur2387
      @phictionofgrandeur2387 2 месяца назад

      ​@@AquaticSkythe American version isn't harder, just longer.

  • @sanher20
    @sanher20 2 месяца назад

    26:52 It's not Popple, it's Poopple

  • @misk-ivus2990
    @misk-ivus2990 2 месяца назад

    Honestly, the original version of the game might've been harder for this challenge due to the lack of barriers.

  • @HyperBlast9000
    @HyperBlast9000 2 месяца назад

    25:48 Ah, so im not the only one-

  • @easternwoyer3876
    @easternwoyer3876 Месяц назад

    14:19 looking in doors maybe

  • @SilverswordPlaysGames
    @SilverswordPlaysGames Месяц назад

    Do this in the original

  • @aureliamastergoomba1278
    @aureliamastergoomba1278 2 месяца назад

    I wouldn’t exactly say Luigi is entirely MVP, because Mario also did damage, it depends on who did more.

  • @Redw556
    @Redw556 2 месяца назад

    Bruh the mvp thing was staged when Mario killed a boss it stayed at 4 instead of getting higher WTH

  • @Redw556
    @Redw556 2 месяца назад

    You diddnt count rookie getting finished with a point??? What does that even mean bro

  • @HenryKrahenbuhl
    @HenryKrahenbuhl 18 дней назад

    Praise Jesus

  • @coleminer8847
    @coleminer8847 3 месяца назад +1

    Dare you to do this in Dream Team
    On hard mode

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад +1

      I wouldn't mind. I'm doing this in the US version of Partners in time already.

  • @magolorgaming4598
    @magolorgaming4598 3 месяца назад +1

    I did this once because the game was too easy

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад

      How did the challenge go for you?

    • @magolorgaming4598
      @magolorgaming4598 3 месяца назад +1

      @@AquaticSky relatively well, I had played this game multiple times before, the original and remake so dodging the boss attacks wasnt really a big deal. I was a bit frustrated at joke's end tho.

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  3 месяца назад

      I get that. It was very narrow so running into enemies was common.

  • @luigiRobs14
    @luigiRobs14 6 месяцев назад +2

    Now do it on level 1 only

  • @salamiguy-b8l
    @salamiguy-b8l 2 месяца назад +1

    please partners in time

    • @AquaticSky
      @AquaticSky  2 месяца назад +1

      I'm making that right now!

  • @KaiJie-n8q
    @KaiJie-n8q 2 месяца назад

    The original final boss is even harder.

  • @wowzachild5379
    @wowzachild5379 2 месяца назад

    The original is more difficult than the remake

    • @ThisMansNameIsKirby
      @ThisMansNameIsKirby 2 месяца назад

      The original is more fun than the remake

    • @wowzachild5379
      @wowzachild5379 2 месяца назад

      @@ThisMansNameIsKirby it’s both more difficult and fun

  • @demidemonym
    @demidemonym 2 месяца назад

    what's a multistat?

  • @whybother5741
    @whybother5741 2 месяца назад

    19:40