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the clue is in the words.. 'thoughts' and 'fantasy'.. the werewolf is not a real man. It is the animal energy required for fucking that is the turn on. The nice guy she lives with doesn't make her heart race. Why don't guys ever get this.
Vampire: Mysterious masculinity (in the dark, unexpecting, cunning) Werewolf: Animalistic masculinity (primal alpha, pack leader, strong, fierce) Billionaire: Status masculinity (living the high life, luxury, comfort, assurance) Pirate: Adventurous masculinity (fear no danger, break the rules, dream seeker) Surgeon: Intellectual masculinity (precise, dependable, trustworthy, between life and death)
You summed it up perfectly. I love vampire, werewolf, and billionaire romance and this describes why. It's not so much an ego thing as finding these types of masculinity very attractive.
Yep. Success and Danger directed at the woman in a positive way is the key to the female fantasy. Billionaires and Surgeons are the epitome of success trait in the minds of many. Who doesn't want to marry a doctor or have a billionaire jet you around the world in the lap of luxury?
That’s the money factor. Women in to varying degrees want fancy and shiny things. Women are much more likely to pick the rich, obnoxious, douche canoe man than the one who would actually treat the woman with respect and love. Sometimes, women are their own worst enemies.
@@stephentrash8579I can't blame em. You have to become that to operate... I used to be a cleaner and I tell you, I've cleaned up some nasty shit(literally)
We're always told that women want a man they can fix or tame, I'm not sure that's really the draw. The draw is finding a man who has the capacity to be aggressive and dangerous enough so that you know they can protect you and your family, while also knowing they love and admire you enough to never use those powers directly on you.
No. They want animals. They are turned on by animals copulating. There are tens of millions single mothers, they only want an untamed brute, not husband. They want to breed, not to have family. Stop glorifying those animals.
True. But that's the lie. If a person is capable of harming one person, they are capable of hurting you in that same way too. And they more than likely, eventually, will bc the newness will end at some point.
That's coz he's approaching the concept with the aim to finding the truth out and not because it could make people offended. Being offended at a factual statement is just stupid.
@@PrimoPete I don't know. "Stupid" implies some kind of culpability. You can choose how you respond to something, but emotions, generally, are natural. So, for example, you cannot help if someone makes you mad, but you can choose how to respond. Calling someone 'stupid' for being offended seems stupid in itself. No offense.
@@freezysyahz thx, I made it for an oc, it's super cringe but now it's just stuck with all my internet stuff, names cool, the reason is just embarrassing.
@@ismarchew42 He is essentially looking at a subset of data on a very specific group of women, then goes on to claim that all women crave the same as that specific group
@caprice.t Yes, but the title suggests that all women are like that. Not only is the title misleading but looking through the comments people are taking this information as if it is absolutely correct. He generalizes his analysis beyond just this group. The overall message of this video is therefore meaningless.
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g glad to see someone with a very valid counter point to the video! It's sad seeing all these people resorting to denying facts and namecalling.
"Of course females are more complicated and thats no wonder because their lives are more complicated". Really intruguing statement, I wish he said more on that.
@@AlyssMa7rin i think curiosity of female condition is obvious female advantage and disadvantage compared to males, which makes men wanting to use them and control them at worst, and females to manipulate them.
Women have to get their lives together sooner on order to create the life that they want. Especially if they have the desire to have a family...we have a time limit that men dont have. Therefore, we have to be educated, find a decent job, find a decent man that we would be willing to have children with, and be financially stable enogh....all before the age if 35.
@@Ki11P0P1 yes....everyone has worries about their safety. .the world is most certainly not a safe place. We are our only defense against predator s in the world.
As an 18 girl, I think there's a lot of relationships where the "I can fix him" mentality can be really detrimental. It's one thing to want to "fix" your partner, and another thing to want what's best for him, you might not always know what that is, but it's important to try and help him to figure that out. Though I totally do get the appeal of helping your partner become a better man, but it's important to grow alongside him
Agreed. Growing allong side your partner is the healthy way. But through both books, movies and series I notice that the “I can fix him” mentality is literally being pushed onto women. It’s always the guy not being able to behave or is incredibly dangerous to the people around him but only that one special woman can stop him and calm him down. Making girls/woman believe that that is their job (taming the beast) :/ Btww is that Kieran in your pfp 👀
Yeah and in most of the contemporary literary stuff the love interest doesn't actually fix him, the love interest becomes part of the toxic protagonist world and has to navigate the consequences of being with him
Is like a hot romance story that always ends badly, like anna karenina for example, it was made to actually lecture women of the time of the dangers of not conforming to societal expectations of the time
@@simon6495 i can get so red that people actually think they need to help me when im just shy and blushing. Thats the worst shit ever i rather get made fun off in the moment than having multiple people being scared for my health 💀
As a lady, for me, its not the being dominated or taming a beast thing...its the world. The adventures, the magic, the danger a world like theirs can give. Normal life is dull for most people. Being in a world with Pirates, vampires, or werewolves is exciting and different. Same thing with elves...not traditionally masculine, beasts to be tamed, or dominating. Lots of ladies just loving the difference of a fantasy world and having a man to be with within that world. You remove the special worlds these men come from or the secret worlds they exist in within our own and you get what? Greg the vampire that works in accounting and only feeds on the weekends...not a lot of ladies, if any, will thirst over that. Even the fantasy of being with a billionaire is fueled by what money like that can open up for you. The fashion, travel, status. Its erotic escapism. We just go from daydreaming about prince charming to something with a bit more edge and sexiness as we get older.
Wow this was brilliant and um reassuring as a man. Thank you. I wish the girls and guys in my country had your kind of brain. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting to talk to.
The eyepatch thing is ok, cause you can pretend that you are an actual pirate. But the vampire fang thing is not cool, cause everybody knows vampires don't really exist.
1:58 i didn't catch the comicallity of it until you pointed it out. but i am a female engineer 😁 that's totally the kind of data analysis dissertation a guy would do though. 😂
This is probably the cause, why engineers (and natural-scientists) play a much greater role in the further development of mankind than social scientists. In a world with only social-scientists we would still worship the moon and argue about how many genders there are and which pronouns we have to address them with.
"There's no fun in taming someone who's already tame ... plus when chaos manifests itself, what makes you think someone tame is going to be good for anything."
Interesting that it includes "surgeon" as one of the 5, but if you think about it, it really makes sense. In order to compete in the medical field at such a high level, and to continue doing so, requires an exemplary degree of effort and complex action, which is an abstract of aggression. But where's the danger? What makes a surgeon as deadly as a vampire or pirate? Well, ultimately... perhaps more so than even a pirate, a surgeon literally has the power of life and death every single day... with one cut, they can save a person's life, or they can end it.
@@adamnesico Kinda makes sense. Let's face it, it's not really "normal" to go playing in someone's body, we do it for good, obviously, but it's not something everyone could do
That may be part of it, but there is also the power issue. Being able to control a horse gives the woman a feeling of power and control, nothing wrong with that. We all want to feel powerful and in control of our lives.
I generally think that woman just want to feel special to insure that their partner will stay with them .And if you are the "only person" that can "tame a beast" that makes you feel special.
@َ َ It is. Biologically speaking a woman is programmed to desire protection and stability as its most beneficial to ensuring her DNA successfully continues.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to My DNA says that I search for a sweet soft girl or boy to protect, love and play with, because I'm an alpha tomboy 🐺 Very sorry, but your "scientific" sources are wrong, Nature spoke aloud when she made me.
I just sent this to my girlfriend because it's so spot on. She casually jokes about marrying for money first and love second, she was crying while watching Grey anatomy last night, and we've seen all the twilight movies together. I always talk to her about JP and now she's finally going to witness his brilliance lol
@@huracan200173Of course you can joke about smt you don't think is good or bad.For example I don't want to have a relationship before I have my own money and financial independence but I joke every time about this topic
@@huracan200173people joke like that all the time. I don't know why it's such a horrible joke. Men have literally joked about way worse. Also why do so many guys hate that women consider money when dating...money is a huge part of dating and marriage? So ofc a woman wants a man who is financially stable. The same way a man wants a woman who is attractive. Like this is just biology
@@aenlainaknoa you know why we use humor in life? We use to tell uncomfortable truths. There's always some true in what the humorist says, and that's in part why we find it funny. Don't say you weren't warned afterwards...
Don't listen to the girls in the comments. If your girl comfortably jokes about marrying for money and stuff, your life will be miserable in the future. Every ounce of your energy will be spent on making sure that her demands are met. That's not a good thing. Leave her and find a better class of women.
Dont necessarily have to be one of those. Just have the traits displayed by them: Surgeon: Caring, compassion Vampire: Mysterious, lonesome Pirates: adventurous, do whatever they want Werewolf: big, hairy, primal Billionare: rich, stability
I think for the vampire one it could also be about power, depending on the type of vampire of course. Like if vampires were real and they are basically human+ except they can’t touch daylight, if we had the choice we would rather be the hunter in that scenario than the prey.
I think also… surgeon: the best at what he does, highly intelligent, and driven. Vampire: powerful, holder of knowledge, able to grant the fantasy of “together forever” Werewolf: virility, caring - but in a masculine “I’ll take care of you” way, family-oriented And honestly, all of them are meant to be quite intense.
How many surgeons have you known? A doctor can be caring and compassionate.... Surgeons are very often ego driven narcissists. Which my dad once said he actually prefers in a surgeon. Also, to be able to do what they do they have to be able to separate themselves from their empathy and humanity or they'd break. There's an inherent danger in doing that. Surgeons and first responders and people with those kinds of jobs that are traumatizing are a special breed.
I think the whole concept of women wanting to "tame" a man is actually about their egos. Women sleep with players because they want the ego boost of making him settle down and stop sleeping with other women. If a woman can get a hot man who can sleep with anyone he wants to choose only her then that implies that she is better than everyone else. It's all about validation
Not ALL about validation, though that may be part of it. There are serious consequences to a mate sleeping around with other partners. He could bring home diseases to you and the children, he could spend the family's money that is needed for food/housing/medicine wooing someone else, and he could cause a divorce or child support payment to come out of his take home pay. All these are very real threats to a mom who is depending on a partner to help her raise the kids.
I think it's more a 'only soft for her' kind of thing. Throughout history, females have not been very dominant, so having power over someone who has a lot of power is kind of, well, empowering. Knowing that you can influence someone to that level, where he didn't listen to anyone before you came along, it makes you feel special. Even I consider the idea romantic, even thought I know, rationally speaking, that someone who is only nice to someone just because he's in love with her, is a bad partner to have.
Well what makes u think that a powerless being can control a powerful being with lust?? Powerful men know this fact very well and thats what makes them uncontrolable
@@jvjoon4333 I don't think that, exactly. But story wise, it makes kind of sense, doesn’t it? It's not about reality here, it's about novels and tropes and the psychological thought behind those tropes. It's where the whole Female Fatale thing partly stems from. Woman do not have power, but they are pretty. Men are strong, but everyone knows they are weak to a pretty face. Besides that, isn't the whole idea of love- or at least, the most mainstream love- the idea of doing whatever you can for your partner, lust and seduction put aside?
@MimiBabe Right! Fiction is fiction for a reason. In reality, this is an immense red flag. Not only is your safety and wellbeing directly related to how much they like you- which means he decides enough is enough when you're living togheter or married, you're trapped, cruel people seldom or never see themselves as cruel. They see themselves as right. Which means they can still be in love with you and, in the moment you don't show your boundaries clearly enough, run over them like a freight train.
This trope of "he's only nice to her but awful to everyone else" is pretty egotistical in itself since it involves the feeling of being "special". It's never genuine love. Moreover real-life relationship dynamics like this always end up in some screwed up situation of a guy so obsessed he'd end up killing the girl because of some petty thing.
Dominance and angst. That’s why monsters are sexy. In my experience though, “seducing and taming” isn’t so much the focus of such fiction and fanfiction. It’s more about being desired and pursued by someone more powerful (hence the dominance). And it’s about being emotionally supportive to that being (hence the angst).
You said it best, Lynette. Fictional alpha men who are tamed by a woman to the point of emasculation is not appealing. The point of the taming (when done well) is not just about the woman, it's about bringing happiness to the alpha. The end of Dirty Dancing, Johnny is still macho, even though Baby has tamed him. In fact, he's more emboldened by the end, standing up to the "rich and mean" employers that he grovelled to as a hot-headed Alpha.
@@abominableangel Why is it so important to be interesting? And what's so interesting about drama anyway? To me drama is the opposite of interesting cause it's so just repetitive. Why do people make such a fuss over nothing? Do they not feel loved? What's making them so desperate for contact?
@@Grail_Knight Peterson pointed that out. You want someone you can work on and someone that can work on you so you both get stronger. The point of an Relationship is to make everyone better and stronger.
Imagine being in one such classroom with him teaching you in this way, i would surely top the class, no wonder why psychologist and neurologists are so well read and different from other people
Women want someone strong enough to protect and provide for them but “tame” in her presence as to be caring to her and the kids. PRETTY SIMPLE Edit: I’m talking biologically/subconsciously. Of course we should all provide for ourselves
@@santiagoarroyob For millennia and in some countries to this day, men wouldn't and won't let us be completely independent from them. Much less rise as high.
@Ann Vo Um no. Men aren't suppose to provide just because your ancient indoctrinated brain that was shaped by societal culture from the 1950's told you so. You don't speak for what all women want so don't write comments like you do. Would you like to go back to the times when women couldn't have a bank account or a credit card under their own name? I provide for myself and I actually *enjoy* work. I don't need someone to provide for me.
If i can explain from a female perspective, theres something attractive about a male who has the capacity to be scary, tough, sexy (with lots of female options) BUT reigns it all in for you, and chooses you. That a woman would be worth being a better person for.
Unfortunately today very few women are actually worth it and if they manage to "tame you" you are now boring and they move on. As a male you must always be on edge to keep her interested which is just not worth the effort. As we can see from todays society women are way more easily influenced than men are and this smut has possibly caused irreversible damage to a generation of women.
yep, some milquetoast who is born soft and stays soft cannot protect you. they can provide sure but I don't want a servant, I want a fighting partner. Like peterson says, you're virtuous when you can bite back but choose to control it; you're just fucking weak if you cannot fight back, there is no virtue in that. It's great to hear him say stuff like that, gets me back in touch with a more realistic view of life that I once had back in East Asia. Western ideas are so god damn skewed and somewhat backwards - only celebrated as forward because it is loudest and widespread just because of economic dominance and its colonial past. And right? the loudest guy isn't necessary the best. Can you imagine how much eldritch knowledge is lost just because those people were not popular enough to be listened to? Just because people were not ready to hear it?
It's like an attractive and kind woman that doesn't dress slutty and keeps a distance from other men when she's with you. Awesome. Self control and respect at work
@@sakura5sango6 usually you'll hear people pronounce it like "where-wolf"! Interesting, I never thought people would have different regional pronunciations for the word "werewolf"
As a woman, its definitely true that many women are drawn to the idea of taming monsters. Masculinity at its most extreme is pretty monsterous. Women are drawn to that as it is through nature but we also need to make sure the monster is redeemable to some extent for our own safety, comfort, and fulfillment. Also a monster that is tame only with us is the highest level of protection we could have. It also helps us feel special. Its layered. Basically be a beast but with self control and show your softest sides only to her to trigger her nurture programming and also stroke her vanity...and bam she is hooked for life. 😂 unless you found a really crazy one.
Jordan Peterson: "That aggression is absolutely vital -- absolutely necessary" Me: So that's why Padmé wasn't turned off when Anakin slaughtered all the sand people
@@regularity2556 Gonna be complicated. We all know there’s gotta be at least 12 main characters. Like she’s gonna stick with him when there’s so many other options out there? Pfft now that’s a fantasy.
I think the archetype of a woman taming a man comes from a woman’s insecurity. Beauty doesn’t make you special - there are millions of beautiful women out there. But if you can be the one woman who tames a man - who stands by him despite all of the negative things - who makes him see the light - who makes him love you enough to be better - well THAT makes you special. That makes you indispensable to him in a way beauty and sex and even a regular relationship doesn’t. You’ll be the girl who saw the diamond in the coal, the prince in the toad, etc. and when he transforms you’ll have a man that appreciates all that you did for him when no one else would. And if you can make yourself indispensable to a man, then he will never leave you - then you’re safe and he’ll treat you well... At least, that’s what the fantasy is. Reality is often quite different.
It's a nice fantasy, I agree. But the irony is that an alpha male can only be temporarily "tamed" by any woman. Perhaps 5-10 years at most. If he is desired by many women he will always have options and distractions.
The fun thing is, it becomes a game between her wanting to tame the man, and the man using push-pull to always portrait the image that he might simply leave at some point. Many call this "Dread". Keeping the dread makes the woman always try to dominate you, because through dread you express exactly the opposite - you are so untaimed that you might go for someone else. Some might say it can be borderline unethical to play around such things, as it may easily classified as manipulation, but I would argue that the opposite is also very real and can real to catastrophic failures. A completely tamed man gets boring really quick, and she might as well try to find someone more interesting to start this taming Journey back again.
I agree with most of your paragraph, but i disagree when you said women pick agressive men because of insecurity. Women are just naturally attracted to dominance, an Alpha male is makes a suitable mate.
So, what he's saying is, if you wanna make a relationship seem more fulfilling to a woman, you should initially feign a bunch of character flaws that you later pretend she helped you overcome
Spot on! I had a friend, who used to pretend to be deeply flawed in front of girls and then would slowly tell them a fake story about why he has grown so cold (could be how a girl broke his heart or how he has a distant relationship with his father, or things like that and he had to build up a hard shield around himself) but around her he felt comfortable and felt could talk about anything at all! LOL I can't believe it worked every time.
@@anuraktisharma3664 omg you just discribed the relationship I have with my dad! Started out great at 11 years I stood up to him got the beating of a lifetime at 15 years I was fed and fought back 1 year later he tried making contact and ask me for a chance to meet once again. I told him if he treats and respect my mother I'll meet with you after 2 weeks later he was back to his old ways..He was'nt the best dad but that situation truely did make me financially succesfull as a business owner in life!
"Hello. My name is Aleister. Originally, I was a man. A man who helped to deliver children into this world. But, one fateful night, in a war ravaged land, my life and existence changed drastically. I was called upon to deliver the child of a soldier who was called to battle. His wife, a young woman of no more than twenty-five, was in labor when I arrived in their small cottage. I tried my best, as any man of medicine would. However, even though the woman survived, as well as the newborn girl, the hemorrhaging had an unforeseen effect. Little did I know, this woman was secretly in love with another being. A being of darkness. One who had set the transformation in motion before the labor began. The vampirism was in her blood. And, by contact with it, I myself became a creature of night. This is my tale.".
The pirate thing is hilarious considering pirates during the golden age were scruffy, filthy, stinking, suffering from a variety of ailments with bad oral hygiene. The smell in sailing vessels of old would make you vomit, these were ships where people shat over the side. Fresh water was also a serious issue. Today's East African pirates aren't much better.
Apparently you've never read the back cover of one of those books. It's the romanticized version of a pirate. Not the real version. All those books are women's fantasies. Reality destroys them
I think it's more the pirate captain with flowing feathers attached to a glorious hat that women are attracted to, and the whole assertion of dominance when he yells at the crew to man their stations etc That's what i think, bc no one wants a partner with rotting teeth
I don't think it's about aggression at all, rather it's about power. You get someone powerful on your side, they will protect you and ensure your comfort. All mentioned are just different types of power.
A billionaire werewolf who is a surgeon, a surgeon who operates only on billionaire werewolves or a surgeon who is a billionaire and only operates on werewolves? Commas nigga
I have always been a fan of a good werewolf or vampire romance and I definitely still get drawn in by the level of masculinity they bring. But honestly has I have gotten older, and I am only early 20s mind you, I have realized how much I personally don't want that sort of relationship. I married a man who did not fit into the "needs to be tamed" category because I discovered I wanted to be with someone who wouldn't induce a heart attack by acting out rashly out of protectiveness or just sheer passion. I married a guy who would act but with more thought to his actions and how they could impact our life together. What I am saying is no matter how attractive men that take care of the problem, or get aggressive can be, I myself am way too independent and practical minded of a female to want that outside of a book lol. My man doesn't need to change for me, we will both adapt as necessary.
I think it's because a typical girl wants to feel safe in a relationship. Where the agressive guy would be dangerous to everyone else, but protective of her. But she wants to tame him to show she's strong in her own right, but not in a physical way. More on the emotional side of things, where she doesn't cave to the man's principles. It's a dangerous world out there and a girl just wants to feel safe and special through the person she's attracted to.
@Etta James men are better at explaining women than women themselves. you can tell by the amount of comments by women figuring themselves out. there is no female peterson.
It’s cool that he doesn’t just educate but takes time to learn and more over finds instrumental lessons like Google searches (meaning he is curious about the right kinda things in my Opinion:)
Yeah but that comes back to men just wanting the most beautiful woman or female form. A siren is dangerous but the danger isn't sexy. The siren herself is supposed to look good for that whole thing to work. The same thing with a mermaid. That's just an inhuman level of sexiness. Lol
There is no difference between men wanting the most beautiful and women wanting someone they can nourish. While men tend to get distracted by physical beauty more often, women have to form a bond like motherhood so that men can never leave. Of course this interpretation is for the sake of fun Freudian conversations.
@@reginanemo640 well yes... there is. The women are looking for the aggression, the danger. They want to tame the man so he becomes essentially a guard dog, projecting that out into the world and being soft toward the family. Men aren't attracted to any of that. The only reason they might like mythical creatures like mermaids is because they're hot. That's it.
@@masonroyal36 You kidding? To a willing or vaguely interested one, "We're gonna investigate this data on female preferences in porn. Why? For science!"
This is also why women don't fall for "nice guys." Nice guys is of course a misinterpretation of passive males. You can be nice and have the potential to be threatening at the same time.
"Nice guys" are those passive males who get anrgy on the internet and complain about how women they were initally white knighting for are horrible and superficial simply because their being a "nice guy" did not get them laid.
Nice guys always get laid. The problem with "nice guys" is that they don't have any social skills other than being nice . Neither are they good at dealing with rejection.
Well. Ill put in my two cents. Im very attracted towards kind guys, quiet and seemingly passive guys. I love it even more however when theres confidence within that archetype. They feel stable and have potential for dominence. Overly passive and guys that would do anything for me is a turn off. It's not so much be a bad guy but rather be centered and confident in who u are. If someone is too distant however thatll attract many anxious types so beware how cold yall decide to act as well. Just be nice and be interested. (was this too chaotic and rant y? Maybe idk)
@bokudensuduharagmail well now im truly surprised damn, you know to be a real Professor you need many years, means you get pretty old and i tought its a old man fantasy rather then a Professor fantasy
So I'll grow a beard, wear an eyepatch and a black cape, have cash in one pocket, scapel in the other, go to the club and say 'Aaarrr' a lot and howl at the moon. That should do it!
Those 5 archetypes simply represent different forms of male power that women wish to grab through seduction and make their own. - Billionaire = money. - Surgeon = professional skill. - Werewolf = physical strength. - Vampire = manipulative charisma. - Pirate = criminality.
Agreed! My mom used to have SO many of those books lying around. I only ever read one, though - it was about a lady who falls in love with the ghost of a pirate. I was like, hell yes, how I can pass on something as insane as that? :D But yeah, romance novels are dumb. I have no interest in a vampire or werewolf or billionaire surgeon who's an awful person. No time at all for that! Pirates are cool though. But that said, ever since I was a kid, I was attracted to the rogue types of characters cos I wanted to BE one - they're charming, witty, resourceful, skilled, and usually lucky; who wouldn't want to be like that? Being romantically involved with one, though... eh, I could take it or leave it :P
I think he's right to a point. There are women that do fall for that type of guy - doesn't mean they all do. Guys who are reasonably attractive and very funny are the ones that tend to have more success. I think being very humorous comes across to women as being confident and intelligent which I think more women are attracted to than being overly aggressive.
Well you're not really superman-ing Jordan's position here larey. "overly agressive" by definition means more than is accepted or desired. What he's essentially saying is that disagreeableness in men is ultimately more attractive than agreeableness even though it obviously has associated flaws and dangers, which should indicate the importance of the virtues of it.
@@jasminabourgeois7434 I tend to disagree. It's a little more complicated. Women like attractive guys, in terms of personality women like guys that are powerful, what powerful represents to each woman is generally different, sometimes it's physical size, sometimes it's masculine features, sometimes it's a mans ability to socialize well. And sometimes it's his ability to argue and be intellectual.
I can only speak for myself, but I used to love such romance stories when I was a teenager, but not anymore - a lack of emotional control and overall angstiness seem juvenile and just unattractive. I think he's wrong to mix sexuality with the topic of relationships, too. What turns you on is not necessarily what you look for in a partner. These romances are things to get off to - not something most people actually wish happened to them if it were possible. At least from my experience - I was in a relationship with the "tough and dominant" type of guy and lo and behold, it sucked. Later on, I learned to value democratic relationships and got to know the beautiful intimacy a vulnerable individual can give. I do however think he hit the nail on the head when he said that when chaos ensues, how are you going to know a tame person is going to be able to handle it? Some sort of strength is a desirable quality in a partner, but I think it is so to some extent for both sexes. Nobody finds complete helplessness and neediness attractive.
I think he just meant naturally and imaginative. Most of the time, it happened in teenagers and sometimes it could progress to adult too if they are still not mature. But overall when they actually experienced it, of course, no one would want a toxic man like that. I know one who go in thinking “Ah I could change him.” But well it just lead to disaster.
These are stimulating fantasies, but not the stuff of real relationships. Women, however, do desire a man who is willing and able to protect her. That is the primary role of the man.
Actually, now that you've mentioned it, it got me thinking. From how Dr. Peterson described 'A billion wicked thoughts' it seems that this analysis was conducted in the early stages of the internet ( about the period where it was not widespreadly adopted) So this may have introduced a certain sample selection bias in the searches that were statistically analysed as at that time i imagine only relatively young people would be using the internet. So maybe thats the reason why this analysis may be not in line with your experience. But this is just a hypothesis, take this with a grain of salt.
My favourite 5 minutes of stand up anywhere! The Marge Simpson gargle of his voice only adds to the titillation. Then he finally says, "Surgeons, werewolves and vampires", and the punchline connects. Guffaw.
This is very true. A lot of women follow this fantasy of taming wild men, they like his aggression, his flair, his unpredictability, they like the danger of getting hurt but they don't want to get hurt. A lot of these women fail to tame the aggressive male and they end up getting hurt but you see them falling for the next bad boy again over the nice guy, they can't help themselves.
i think the biggest issue is the shitty men label themselves as "nice guys" which means women arent gonna trust u. As a woman, men like to talk about these "bad boys" but in real life, these kinds of men that u think women go after or the stereotypes u have in ur head dont even exist
Yall r so damn annoying bruh. "Why don't women want nice guys like me"😭. Women like nice guys. The issue is that you're not attractive to them that's it. Women just like men. Pick based on attraction. Nice or not if you're attractive you will get a woman. Stop this delusion
No one asked, but I'm here to explain the vampire one in more detail. I don't think it's as weird or shallow as it seems on the surface 😅 It's important to note that women don't typically like *evil* vampires who are actively killing people. Women like *good* vampires. Whether we're talking about Twilight, Buffy, or any of the thousands of other vampire stories out there, women like noble vampires who willingly choose to abstain from human blood. I think this is because the bloodlust vampires feel is a thinly veiled metaphor for sexual lust (or possibly any addictive sin). In other words, a vampire who can control his desire to drink blood is a man who can control his sexual desire. A good vampire represents a man who is strong enough to resist temptation and rise above his nature in an effort to protect others. In my opinion, this is the primary reason the idea of vampires appeals to women (especially the more traditionally-minded variety). Good vampires are men with morals and values. They have the power to hurt others but they choose against it. They don't give into selfish, carnal pleasures at the expense of others, no matter how powerful the temptation may be. Bonus: vampires usually live a long time (because they're immortal), so over the years, they've acquired wisdom, intelligence, and life experience. They're old souls. They're emotionally mature. They're civilized and refined. They typically come from an earlier time when chivalry was the norm. That gentlemanly nature seems to linger within them. The bottom line: vampires represent the female desire for men who can control their actions even in the face of strong temptation, have life experience and maturity, and behave like gentlemen. The interesting thing is that these are completely attainable goals for any regular guy (or girl--I'm trying to work on some of these things myself), and I'm thankful to know many real men who exemplify these qualities beautifully. In fact, I'm blessed to be dating my very own "noble vampire." 😉
The abstain from blood bit isnt really right as abstaining kills them often women are ok with becoming vampires in those stories. For example I just checked the girl from twilight became a vampire I don't think I got past the 2nd movie or even the 1st. Many vampires also have castles Can Grant immortality to their partner and are hunted by vampire hunters. With a vampire it's considered good enough if they don't kill those they suck blood from
@@monkeymanwasd1239 Abstaining from blood doesn't kill them in any of the vampire stories I've heard of. Not in Twilight, Buffy, etc. They live forever regardless of whether they drink blood or not. And yes, in Twilight, Bella becomes a vampire but she never once tastes human blood. She chooses to become a good vampire just like the one she fell in love with. So yes, it still applies.
@@KylieMalchusArt The vampires I know can survive months or years without drinking blood but that's usually when they're in a coffin dried up into husks before they go off to murder several towns of people
This is probably one of two or three comments best answers this question. This and the "we just love fantasy, think of elves" rebuttal. ... I don't know guys, you can listen to Jordan all you want, but I just don't get why you wouldn't ask women themselves directly if you really wanted to know why.
This guy is interesting I want to go to his University to attend his classes everyday. I have never seen a teacher to articulate such controversial topics so easily and meaningfully. Where he forces others to think wheter thay want to or not. Hands of applause Jorden B Peterson.
When I was like 20~ I loved reading books and I also favoured the 'bad guys', vampires and werewolves. I also questioned why I felt drawn to them and why alot of other women do too. And I think I found an answer that sounds plausible and right to me. I think those bad guys represent things that a lot of women dont have. They represent what some women long for, what might bring balance. Since young age, I and a lot other girls are taught to behave, be calm, show good manners, be empathetic, be good at school, do this, do that, in fact: be a good girl and you'll get praised. I know so many that grow up this way into adulthood. And if you happen to also be a shy girl, books can be an escape from this situation, this world, in which you feel like everything you are and will be is decided by someone else. And then you meet those characters, the bad guys, the vampires, the werewolves. They represent all that: Independence, power, being unapologetic, free, wild, adventurous, special, being egoistical. Thats what (I think) a lot desire about those men. They want what they dont have .
"What makes you think you want someone who is tame anyways?"....If this conversation could have continued, or if any female romance novel or film could continue beyond the woman taming the male character and "living happily ever after", then you'd see a slow death of the relationship as the women all realize they are no longer attracted to their now tame man, because who would be? That is the real takeaway about how females look at men. They love the idea of the alpha male and the bad boy but only insomuch as they can tame them and make them come around to acting the way the female prefers...which then kills what was attractive about that man in the first place.
True. Thats one of the reasons why "Women dont know what they want" saying is still so frequently used in men conversations. They are walking contradiction.
I agree, this is called "the bad boy phase" some women go threw, until they realize they have nothing in common or a real relationship with their bad boy. They were only infatuated with them because of their masculinity, and confidence, despite bad or lack of qualities.
which is fine, as long as women don't expect a good man to wait for them to outlive this stupid phase. Men want women they can have families with, not someone who has gone through a dozen Skrillex clones
I guess no man would also be interested in the story about already saved princess living with her prince who now drinks beer and takes out the trash. so this complaint makes no sense.
(Vampires specifically) I think as a whole it’s a “I choose you and only you” mentality that women gravitate towards. Intense loyalty mixed with super strength and sexual tension. It’s a good combo. don’t think the whole drinking blood thing is the attraction part, or the fact that they are dead. Like when I was young I didnt get the whole vampire thing until I watched Buffy, (but the difference with that is good character writing)
I think the blood thing is either kinky or a visual representation of the danger lurking in the heart of the monster. Also vampires tend to be well-dressed and sophisticated which makes for a nice balance between savagery and civilization.
@@heyhey439 right like the “I choose you” mentality, that undying loyalty and connection. Which honestly isn’t a bad thing to want. Who wouldn’t want a super loyal person who wants you forever? If it’s mutual of course
You can add another one to this - princes. Women love princes as well. If you look at fantasy romances for women audiences the male leads are commonly princes. And I can agree with what other comments have said, I like these types of characters because they make you feel special. I also get a strong sense of loyalty, like this person won't cheat on me or betray me, because I am special and they only love me. And of course, I'll only love them and be loyal too, it's like a fantasy of true love and happily ever after.
Actually no they don't. There's no point in taming someone into being good with others. The point of taming is for the male to be civil towards his girl only. He has to keep that aggression towards the outside world. Think about it. If a women seeks out a dominant male, this is power, this is protection. If you strip it ALL away... you will be left with the opposite of what you seek. The point is to "tame" the man into being caring and compassionate towards you only. What good will a tamed male be if he cowers at other threats? As Peterson explained. Tame is in the sense of being civil. Towards the outside world only. You can still be civil and ASSERTIVE, CONFIDENT, etc.That's positive dominance. But someone who is simply aggressive and violent towards his own spouse... will be violent towards the children as well. As a female, if you let the husband be so untamed that he hurts the offspring. You have failed your one job. It's quite simple. Find a dominant male. Tame him to the extent he is protective and caring of the family. Turning a guy into a pussy is useless. And honestly, I have actually never seen a case like that. If it does happen, the male in question wasn't very assertive to begin with. Just anti-social. And that anti-social and bad behavior was mistaken for dominance. Which it is not. Young girls often confused "bad boys" for being dominant. But that is a false. Being anti-society is not dominance. Just think of these weak emo kids. They are "bad" in the sense of ignoring rules, not caring about the future etc. But they are not dominant. You want to tame a dominant male into caring about you and the family. That's it.
um no... Any psychology book will tell you there's a very distinct difference. Anti-social people are AGAINST society. They cause harm to people, they do not want to follow the rules, etc. They are anti- society. Asocial is when you do not want to socialize. You AVOID society. Avoiding society is not the same as being AGAINST society. But yes, I understand where your confusion is coming from. People are misusing the word antisocial. Professionals do not misuse it. In fact, psychopathy and sociopathy are under the category of antisocial. Just to give you a clue of how serious it is. If you are still unsure, just look up antisocial personality disorder. It's the medical diagnoses for people who are antisocial. Being antisocial is considered a mental illness. Being asocial is not.
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Psyche Matters
I love that thumbnail btw.
Thank you!
the clue is in the words.. 'thoughts' and 'fantasy'.. the werewolf is not a real man. It is the animal energy required for fucking that is the turn on. The nice guy she lives with doesn't make her heart race. Why don't guys ever get this.
Psyche Matters I love your video's. They are amazing.
Nice for doing good work not just stealing content but promoting and linking everything + explaining gj
Vampire: Mysterious masculinity (in the dark, unexpecting, cunning)
Werewolf: Animalistic masculinity (primal alpha, pack leader, strong, fierce)
Billionaire: Status masculinity (living the high life, luxury, comfort, assurance)
Pirate: Adventurous masculinity (fear no danger, break the rules, dream seeker)
Surgeon: Intellectual masculinity (precise, dependable, trustworthy, between life and death)
You summed it up perfectly. I love vampire, werewolf, and billionaire romance and this describes why. It's not so much an ego thing as finding these types of masculinity very attractive.
you´re so right
Pretend is not right😂😂😂😂😂
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Masculinity is the common factor here and I agree. Nothing’s more sexier than a masculine man who is bad to others but cares for her lady.
I love that billionaires and surgeons are listed among pirates, werewolves, and vampires
Yep. Success and Danger directed at the woman in a positive way is the key to the female fantasy. Billionaires and Surgeons are the epitome of success trait in the minds of many. Who doesn't want to marry a doctor or have a billionaire jet you around the world in the lap of luxury?
Billionaires are risk takers with disposable income and surgeons are dangerous because they literally hold life in their hands
That’s the money factor. Women in to varying degrees want fancy and shiny things.
Women are much more likely to pick the rich, obnoxious, douche canoe man than the one who would actually treat the woman with respect and love.
Sometimes, women are their own worst enemies.
Yeah surgeons are one of the leading jobs for sociopaths
@@stephentrash8579I can't blame em. You have to become that to operate... I used to be a cleaner and I tell you, I've cleaned up some nasty shit(literally)
We're always told that women want a man they can fix or tame, I'm not sure that's really the draw. The draw is finding a man who has the capacity to be aggressive and dangerous enough so that you know they can protect you and your family, while also knowing they love and admire you enough to never use those powers directly on you.
Bam. You got it right. But when you're searching for porn, the story has to be a bit more concise lol
Lol. You just described 'taming'. Dangerous, but directed according to your desires.
Exactly! What do you mean women wanna tame and fix problems? like i dont want a hobo w drug issues, wtf?
No. They want animals. They are turned on by animals copulating. There are tens of millions single mothers, they only want an untamed brute, not husband. They want to breed, not to have family. Stop glorifying those animals.
True. But that's the lie. If a person is capable of harming one person, they are capable of hurting you in that same way too. And they more than likely, eventually, will bc the newness will end at some point.
“you’re actually blushing, that’s very funny” is one of most favourite quotes
Yes indeed lmaooo
Imagine the mingled embarrassment and bragging rights you get out of being that one girl in Dr Jordan Peterson's lecture
And who even quotes that?
@M J Why the heck would such a bot exist? What would be the point of that? To bully people?
@@fafka1445 Yes.
@@fafka1445 me
I love how Peterson has no problems laughing at people, but its never truly mean spirited
I sense some kind of guilt in his laugh, almost like he worried that the girl will be ashamed..
That's coz he's approaching the concept with the aim to finding the truth out and not because it could make people offended.
Being offended at a factual statement is just stupid.
Primordial Pete so when someone calls you ugly you aren't offended?
@@lastigesoma6126 Not if it is the truth and they have a proper empirical reason to call me so.
@@PrimoPete I don't know. "Stupid" implies some kind of culpability. You can choose how you respond to something, but emotions, generally, are natural. So, for example, you cannot help if someone makes you mad, but you can choose how to respond. Calling someone 'stupid' for being offended seems stupid in itself. No offense.
Did you know that if you whisper, 'Dominance hierarchy,' into a mirror three times Jordan Peterson will appear and clean your room?
lmao
Hahaha 😆
Close, but what he'll really do is provide a 45 minute explanation for why you ought to clean it your damn self!
@@rizu4044 roughly speaking
Na, he will probably tell *me* sternly to clean my room through the mirror.
Telling someone who's blushing that they're blushing does nothing but make them blush harder
that's half the fun lol also love the channel name!
@@sorrowdusk5068 Yours is pretty awesome too
@@freezysyahz thx, I made it for an oc, it's super cringe but now it's just stuck with all my internet stuff, names cool, the reason is just embarrassing.
Just one word WATTPAD
He knows.
As an engineering student, this makes me proud of my kind and hopeful that my studies might actually contribute to society at large!
Then you should realise that his interpretation on the given data is false
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g I am curious about how you come to that conclusion?
@@ismarchew42 He is essentially looking at a subset of data on a very specific group of women, then goes on to claim that all women crave the same as that specific group
@caprice.t Yes, but the title suggests that all women are like that. Not only is the title misleading but looking through the comments people are taking this information as if it is absolutely correct. He generalizes his analysis beyond just this group. The overall message of this video is therefore meaningless.
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g glad to see someone with a very valid counter point to the video! It's sad seeing all these people resorting to denying facts and namecalling.
Hey ladies, I'm a werewolf vampire billionaire pirate surgeon. How you doin?
does your pirate hat fall off when you transform into a wolf?
also does your howling sound like AWRRRRRRRR or more like a traditional wolf?:D
Me panties are so moist now o_o Imma reada sexa boi >;3
@bookmarkthis They certainly like humor
Server 333, that made me cry!
Melo Boy
Genius! 🤣
"Of course females are more complicated and thats no wonder because their lives are more complicated". Really intruguing statement, I wish he said more on that.
Periods, Pregnancy, Menopause, Cramps... Back pain... Periods...
@@AlyssMa7rin i think curiosity of female condition is obvious female advantage and disadvantage compared to males, which makes men wanting to use them and control them at worst, and females to manipulate them.
Women have to get their lives together sooner on order to create the life that they want. Especially if they have the desire to have a family...we have a time limit that men dont have. Therefore, we have to be educated, find a decent job, find a decent man that we would be willing to have children with, and be financially stable enogh....all before the age if 35.
Deb D not to mention we have to worry about not being kidnapped, raped or killed just for being a woman.
@@Ki11P0P1 yes....everyone has worries about their safety. .the world is most certainly not a safe place. We are our only defense against predator s in the world.
Twilight: one young woman's choice between bestiality and necrophilia
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Also almost pedophilia, Edward is a couple hundred years old whilst Bella is barely legal
Underrated comment
A bestiality who's also a pedophile! Hahaha
As an 18 girl, I think there's a lot of relationships where the "I can fix him" mentality can be really detrimental. It's one thing to want to "fix" your partner, and another thing to want what's best for him, you might not always know what that is, but it's important to try and help him to figure that out.
Though I totally do get the appeal of helping your partner become a better man, but it's important to grow alongside him
Agreed. Growing allong side your partner is the healthy way. But through both books, movies and series I notice that the “I can fix him” mentality is literally being pushed onto women. It’s always the guy not being able to behave or is incredibly dangerous to the people around him but only that one special woman can stop him and calm him down. Making girls/woman believe that that is their job (taming the beast) :/
Btww is that Kieran in your pfp 👀
YES haha i love PH, even if the main romance has the exact dynamic that this vid is discussing @@choxo.v260
Yeah and in most of the contemporary literary stuff the love interest doesn't actually fix him, the love interest becomes part of the toxic protagonist world and has to navigate the consequences of being with him
Is like a hot romance story that always ends badly, like anna karenina for example, it was made to actually lecture women of the time of the dangers of not conforming to societal expectations of the time
One thing a man cant stand is a woman who wants to change him. Instant disaster
One of the terrible side effects of blushing is someone telling you... you're blushing. Oh god.
But it's soooo cute, for men and women alike
A Saul I don’t know, some people only get red cheeks but when you become a big sweaty tomatoe head I don’t think it’s cute anymore lol
@@simon6495 i can get so red that people actually think they need to help me when im just shy and blushing. Thats the worst shit ever i rather get made fun off in the moment than having multiple people being scared for my health 💀
Yeah I'm surprised he didn't know that. Or worse, did, yet still put her on the spot
Lucky for me my skin is dark enough to hide most of it.😅😂
I’m surprised mafia king isn’t one of them
Right?
I think billionaire will cover that ..
I was also thinking about the same thing
no honey, this one is exclusive for wattpad
Prison Mike who started the fire?
One word:
Wattpad.
Finally! Someone!
Thank you I was searching for this and I’ve never been more proud
Yep
Okay।। I am Wattpad reader too..
Ooof it's allll from waattpad folks! AAAH that website produces trash content jeesh
As a lady, for me, its not the being dominated or taming a beast thing...its the world. The adventures, the magic, the danger a world like theirs can give. Normal life is dull for most people. Being in a world with Pirates, vampires, or werewolves is exciting and different. Same thing with elves...not traditionally masculine, beasts to be tamed, or dominating. Lots of ladies just loving the difference of a fantasy world and having a man to be with within that world. You remove the special worlds these men come from or the secret worlds they exist in within our own and you get what? Greg the vampire that works in accounting and only feeds on the weekends...not a lot of ladies, if any, will thirst over that. Even the fantasy of being with a billionaire is fueled by what money like that can open up for you. The fashion, travel, status. Its erotic escapism. We just go from daydreaming about prince charming to something with a bit more edge and sexiness as we get older.
So women want to live in childlike fantasies and cannot handle the realism actual men give them.
Being in that world is also filled with drama and b.s. no thanks.
THIS. this it it.
Wait, that's a p*rn?
Wow this was brilliant and um reassuring as a man. Thank you. I wish the girls and guys in my country had your kind of brain. Would be a hell of a lot more interesting to talk to.
*When you show up to a first date with vampire fangs and an eyepatch on.*
The eyepatch thing is ok, cause you can pretend that you are an actual pirate. But the vampire fang thing is not cool, cause everybody knows vampires don't really exist.
@@puppyaids6937 or do they
Should be a fun halloween costume
@@puppyaids6937 that's just what the vampires want you to think...
@@joshuhigashikata9201vsauce music plays
I love it when he said “Social scientists would never do that but engineers have no issue with it” 😂
1:58 i didn't catch the comicallity of it until you pointed it out.
but i am a female engineer 😁
that's totally the kind of data analysis dissertation a guy would do though. 😂
Sociologist : NO YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT IT IS UNETHICAL
Engineer: I Forgot the part where it is my problem
@@mickolesmana5899 underrated!
Why?? I'm interested tho' not an engineer.
Wish I had that algorithm accesss
This is probably the cause, why engineers (and natural-scientists) play a much greater role in the further development of mankind than social scientists. In a world with only social-scientists we would still worship the moon and argue about how many genders there are and which pronouns we have to address them with.
As a wattpad veteran, I can confirm.
Veteran💀
😂😂
You know if I haven't gotten edicted to wattpad stories by myself, I wouldn't have believed it, you know 😏
Yeah for sure 😌
LOL SAME. Although I'd say tastes have changed!
"There's no fun in taming someone who's already tame ... plus when chaos manifests itself, what makes you think someone tame is going to be good for anything."
Interesting that it includes "surgeon" as one of the 5, but if you think about it, it really makes sense. In order to compete in the medical field at such a high level, and to continue doing so, requires an exemplary degree of effort and complex action, which is an abstract of aggression. But where's the danger? What makes a surgeon as deadly as a vampire or pirate? Well, ultimately... perhaps more so than even a pirate, a surgeon literally has the power of life and death every single day... with one cut, they can save a person's life, or they can end it.
Too psycholgysts says many suegeons hace psychpath tendencies, manty are persons who like to rip people, and chose to earn $ through it.
I think they just thought than a lady writting "hot surgeon" was looking for her fantasy and not for the actor in a tv series
That is interesting
How does the billionaire fit in?
@@adamnesico Kinda makes sense. Let's face it, it's not really "normal" to go playing in someone's body, we do it for good, obviously, but it's not something everyone could do
LOL he called that girl out
An later president trump entered the room an grabbed her attention.
That's a weird name for pussy.
You can do anything... Grab them by their attention
Lmao
Plot twist it was a guy
it’s a fantasy no one wants in real life but it’s fun to experience it in fiction without being harmed
Yeah. Like getting stabbed in the gut with a sword. Awesome on paper! not so awesome IRL...
Cookie Di Angelo my stomach hurts now :(
yep... no one wants in real life surgeon or bilionar ! xDD
I definitely do want a vampire bf though
real talk.
I could listen to this man give lectures for hours and hours.
This must be why girls like horses. A wild beast she can tame and ride around on.
great observation
This really makes sense . Thank you for this comment
That may be part of it, but there is also the power issue. Being able to control a horse gives the woman a feeling of power and control, nothing wrong with that. We all want to feel powerful and in control of our lives.
You're enjoingly disturbed
You mean Hoof
I generally think that woman just want to feel special to insure that their partner will stay with them .And if you are the "only person" that can "tame a beast" that makes you feel special.
Yeah.
Everyone wants to feel special.
@َ َ It is. Biologically speaking a woman is programmed to desire protection and stability as its most beneficial to ensuring her DNA successfully continues.
Who wants to tame a beast, when you can be the beast?
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to My DNA says that I search for a sweet soft girl or boy to protect, love and play with, because I'm an alpha tomboy 🐺
Very sorry, but your "scientific" sources are wrong, Nature spoke aloud when she made me.
For a second I misread the title as "Why Jordan Peterson falls for pirates and vampires" and it intrigued me enough to watch thr video lmao
You know its not true right?
Ahahahahahahahahahaahahahahhaha
😂😂😂😂😂
I'm dead lmfaooo
I just sent this to my girlfriend because it's so spot on. She casually jokes about marrying for money first and love second, she was crying while watching Grey anatomy last night, and we've seen all the twilight movies together. I always talk to her about JP and now she's finally going to witness his brilliance lol
Dude, run away from there. No one "casually jokes" about marrying for money...
@@huracan200173Of course you can joke about smt you don't think is good or bad.For example I don't want to have a relationship before I have my own money and financial independence but I joke every time about this topic
@@huracan200173people joke like that all the time. I don't know why it's such a horrible joke. Men have literally joked about way worse. Also why do so many guys hate that women consider money when dating...money is a huge part of dating and marriage? So ofc a woman wants a man who is financially stable. The same way a man wants a woman who is attractive. Like this is just biology
@@aenlainaknoa you know why we use humor in life? We use to tell uncomfortable truths. There's always some true in what the humorist says, and that's in part why we find it funny. Don't say you weren't warned afterwards...
Don't listen to the girls in the comments. If your girl comfortably jokes about marrying for money and stuff, your life will be miserable in the future. Every ounce of your energy will be spent on making sure that her demands are met. That's not a good thing. Leave her and find a better class of women.
Leave it to engineers to figure this out. "It's for science I swear"
We are still all connected!!! In Jesus Christ name!!! AMEN!!!
@@godshardtruth7488 Uh.... what...?
Also WHAT!!?
It’s all in the name of science I tell ya!! XDDD
Madonna is all 5 monsters rolled into 1!
Im not taking notes i swear
That triangle he makes with his hands is perfect. That’s what I took out of this video
Trying to give a hit🧐🧐🧐
#GOD'S HARD TRUTH what
@@crankyanker2682 😔😔😔
Yes lol I was impressed also. Does that make him part of the Illuminate ?
He's a secret Tutter.
Dont necessarily have to be one of those. Just have the traits displayed by them:
Surgeon: Caring, compassion
Vampire: Mysterious, lonesome
Pirates: adventurous, do whatever they want
Werewolf: big, hairy, primal
Billionare: rich, stability
I think for the vampire one it could also be about power, depending on the type of vampire of course. Like if vampires were real and they are basically human+ except they can’t touch daylight, if we had the choice we would rather be the hunter in that scenario than the prey.
All of the above: assholes
I think also…
surgeon: the best at what he does, highly intelligent, and driven.
Vampire: powerful, holder of knowledge, able to grant the fantasy of “together forever”
Werewolf: virility, caring - but in a masculine “I’ll take care of you” way, family-oriented
And honestly, all of them are meant to be quite intense.
How many surgeons have you known?
A doctor can be caring and compassionate....
Surgeons are very often ego driven narcissists. Which my dad once said he actually prefers in a surgeon.
Also, to be able to do what they do they have to be able to separate themselves from their empathy and humanity or they'd break. There's an inherent danger in doing that. Surgeons and first responders and people with those kinds of jobs that are traumatizing are a special breed.
I think the whole concept of women wanting to "tame" a man is actually about their egos. Women sleep with players because they want the ego boost of making him settle down and stop sleeping with other women. If a woman can get a hot man who can sleep with anyone he wants to choose only her then that implies that she is better than everyone else. It's all about validation
"Want you to make me feel like I'm the only girl in the world" - Rihanna
Not ALL about validation, though that may be part of it. There are serious consequences to a mate sleeping around with other partners. He could bring home diseases to you and the children, he could spend the family's money that is needed for food/housing/medicine wooing someone else, and he could cause a divorce or child support payment to come out of his take home pay. All these are very real threats to a mom who is depending on a partner to help her raise the kids.
Both want dominance.
@@purrfection2208 I dont understand what you mean
@@lazygam3r183 if you wish to change someone then you are trying to establish dominance over them. "I tamed the beast".
I think it's more a 'only soft for her' kind of thing. Throughout history, females have not been very dominant, so having power over someone who has a lot of power is kind of, well, empowering. Knowing that you can influence someone to that level, where he didn't listen to anyone before you came along, it makes you feel special.
Even I consider the idea romantic, even thought I know, rationally speaking, that someone who is only nice to someone just because he's in love with her, is a bad partner to have.
Well what makes u think that a powerless being can control a powerful being with lust?? Powerful men know this fact very well and thats what makes them uncontrolable
@@jvjoon4333 I don't think that, exactly. But story wise, it makes kind of sense, doesn’t it? It's not about reality here, it's about novels and tropes and the psychological thought behind those tropes. It's where the whole Female Fatale thing partly stems from. Woman do not have power, but they are pretty. Men are strong, but everyone knows they are weak to a pretty face.
Besides that, isn't the whole idea of love- or at least, the most mainstream love- the idea of doing whatever you can for your partner, lust and seduction put aside?
@MimiBabe Right! Fiction is fiction for a reason. In reality, this is an immense red flag. Not only is your safety and wellbeing directly related to how much they like you- which means he decides enough is enough when you're living togheter or married, you're trapped, cruel people seldom or never see themselves as cruel. They see themselves as right. Which means they can still be in love with you and, in the moment you don't show your boundaries clearly enough, run over them like a freight train.
This trope of "he's only nice to her but awful to everyone else" is pretty egotistical in itself since it involves the feeling of being "special". It's never genuine love. Moreover real-life relationship dynamics like this always end up in some screwed up situation of a guy so obsessed he'd end up killing the girl because of some petty thing.
@@jvjoon4333 Many powerful men have fallen from grace and standing in their circle for love of a woman.
Like watching these videos but would hate to be in that classroom when he's staring into your soul for 20 seconds while talking about sex.
Jesus Christ LMAO right???
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Hahahahaha
i would love that specifically
Sarah Bean 🤣😂🤣
Dominance and angst. That’s why monsters are sexy.
In my experience though, “seducing and taming” isn’t so much the focus of such fiction and fanfiction. It’s more about being desired and pursued by someone more powerful (hence the dominance). And it’s about being emotionally supportive to that being (hence the angst).
You said it best, Lynette. Fictional alpha men who are tamed by a woman to the point of emasculation is not appealing. The point of the taming (when done well) is not just about the woman, it's about bringing happiness to the alpha. The end of Dirty Dancing, Johnny is still macho, even though Baby has tamed him. In fact, he's more emboldened by the end, standing up to the "rich and mean" employers that he grovelled to as a hot-headed Alpha.
What's attractive about angst?
@@Grail_Knight simple.. the drama. It makes for an interesting life; rather than boy meets girl they buy a semi detached in the countryside
@@abominableangel Why is it so important to be interesting? And what's so interesting about drama anyway? To me drama is the opposite of interesting cause it's so just repetitive. Why do people make such a fuss over nothing? Do they not feel loved? What's making them so desperate for contact?
@@Grail_Knight Peterson pointed that out. You want someone you can work on and someone that can work on you so you both get stronger. The point of an Relationship is to make everyone better and stronger.
Imagine being in one such classroom with him teaching you in this way, i would surely top the class, no wonder why psychologist and neurologists are so well read and different from other people
Women want someone strong enough to protect and provide for them but “tame” in her presence as to be caring to her and the kids. PRETTY SIMPLE
Edit: I’m talking biologically/subconsciously. Of course we should all provide for ourselves
Women should provide for themselves
Good try, but don't even you know what you truly want.
She should be looking for someone to protect her and the children for these disgusting pedophile priests.
@@santiagoarroyob For millennia and in some countries to this day, men wouldn't and won't let us be completely independent from them. Much less rise as high.
@Ann Vo Um no. Men aren't suppose to provide just because your ancient indoctrinated brain that was shaped by societal culture from the 1950's told you so. You don't speak for what all women want so don't write comments like you do. Would you like to go back to the times when women couldn't have a bank account or a credit card under their own name? I provide for myself and I actually *enjoy* work. I don't need someone to provide for me.
If i can explain from a female perspective, theres something attractive about a male who has the capacity to be scary, tough, sexy (with lots of female options) BUT reigns it all in for you, and chooses you. That a woman would be worth being a better person for.
Unfortunately today very few women are actually worth it and if they manage to "tame you" you are now boring and they move on. As a male you must always be on edge to keep her interested which is just not worth the effort. As we can see from todays society women are way more easily influenced than men are and this smut has possibly caused irreversible damage to a generation of women.
@@mikolas4eva Also, she brings nothing but red flags to the table
yep, some milquetoast who is born soft and stays soft cannot protect you. they can provide sure but I don't want a servant, I want a fighting partner. Like peterson says, you're virtuous when you can bite back but choose to control it; you're just fucking weak if you cannot fight back, there is no virtue in that. It's great to hear him say stuff like that, gets me back in touch with a more realistic view of life that I once had back in East Asia. Western ideas are so god damn skewed and somewhat backwards - only celebrated as forward because it is loudest and widespread just because of economic dominance and its colonial past. And right? the loudest guy isn't necessary the best. Can you imagine how much eldritch knowledge is lost just because those people were not popular enough to be listened to? Just because people were not ready to hear it?
@@censoringcensor8433 you had me at betacuck 😂
It's like an attractive and kind woman that doesn't dress slutty and keeps a distance from other men when she's with you. Awesome. Self control and respect at work
I love how he pronounces “werewolf” like it’s the past tense of “arewolf”
Canadian accent
How is it pronounced then?
I'm Spanish and I think I also pronounce it like that :0
@@sakura5sango6 usually you'll hear people pronounce it like "where-wolf"! Interesting, I never thought people would have different regional pronunciations for the word "werewolf"
@@daphne-bai some people dont pronounce the R other dont pronounce the F. Depends on your accent.
@@daphne-bai Me neither, to be honest.
Though, as I said, it's not like noticed it haha ^^
Thanks for the info
As a woman, its definitely true that many women are drawn to the idea of taming monsters. Masculinity at its most extreme is pretty monsterous. Women are drawn to that as it is through nature but we also need to make sure the monster is redeemable to some extent for our own safety, comfort, and fulfillment. Also a monster that is tame only with us is the highest level of protection we could have. It also helps us feel special. Its layered. Basically be a beast but with self control and show your softest sides only to her to trigger her nurture programming and also stroke her vanity...and bam she is hooked for life. 😂 unless you found a really crazy one.
I wonder if this is why equestrians like to have a big well-hung stallion between their legs.
When he said, “you’re actually blushing.” I was like... How can he see my face??!!!
It was you??
Jonnejen jonne no I was just blushing at the same part that the girl was blushing when he called her out.
May i ask: As a women, what do you think about this video? Do you agree?
Myst Platinum Personally, yes.
I'm curious on which personality made you blush, I'm guessing it was the vampire or the pirate
Jordan Peterson:
"That aggression is absolutely vital -- absolutely necessary"
Me:
So that's why Padmé wasn't turned off when Anakin slaughtered all the sand people
"They're like animals, and I slaughtered them like animals!"
Padme was not human
Hey man, it's not politically correct to call Tusken Raiders "sand people", lol 😉
Probably turned her on. “Oh Ani you so bad.”
Not just the men, but the women and children too!
"there's nothing more sexy than a werewolf, apparently"
Bradford Dean "roughly speaking", oh god now I'm thinking of erotica written in the style of Petersonisms!
.....in a dog-eat-dog world.
Bradford Dean a blood thirsty vampire, who only craves your blood, apparently
It's true. A Werewolf Gangbang is the most erotic situation you can be in.
Vladimir Tepes you are trolling wrong people
As a male my fantasy is a government that would just leave me alone with my liberty.
Well said bro
Damn commies wanna take my freedom
@@zyzzbandicoot 😂😂😂🤝
I'm gonna write a romance between an innocent sweet debutant and a vampire werewolf billionare pirate surgeon. It's gonna make billions!
You could make him travel through time and be the different forms, but be the same person at heart. Would be an interesting read.
@@regularity2556 Gonna be complicated. We all know there’s gotta be at least 12 main characters. Like she’s gonna stick with him when there’s so many other options out there? Pfft now that’s a fantasy.
Hahaha smart
Lmao
its been 6 months. Where is the novel
I think the archetype of a woman taming a man comes from a woman’s insecurity. Beauty doesn’t make you special - there are millions of beautiful women out there. But if you can be the one woman who tames a man - who stands by him despite all of the negative things - who makes him see the light - who makes him love you enough to be better - well THAT makes you special. That makes you indispensable to him in a way beauty and sex and even a regular relationship doesn’t. You’ll be the girl who saw the diamond in the coal, the prince in the toad, etc. and when he transforms you’ll have a man that appreciates all that you did for him when no one else would. And if you can make yourself indispensable to a man, then he will never leave you - then you’re safe and he’ll treat you well... At least, that’s what the fantasy is. Reality is often quite different.
It's a nice fantasy, I agree. But the irony is that an alpha male can only be temporarily "tamed" by any woman. Perhaps 5-10 years at most. If he is desired by many women he will always have options and distractions.
The fun thing is, it becomes a game between her wanting to tame the man, and the man using push-pull to always portrait the image that he might simply leave at some point. Many call this "Dread". Keeping the dread makes the woman always try to dominate you, because through dread you express exactly the opposite - you are so untaimed that you might go for someone else.
Some might say it can be borderline unethical to play around such things, as it may easily classified as manipulation, but I would argue that the opposite is also very real and can real to catastrophic failures. A completely tamed man gets boring really quick, and she might as well try to find someone more interesting to start this taming Journey back again.
Dam man, that's a good explanation! I think Jordan himself would enjoy reading that
I agree with most of your paragraph, but i disagree when you said women pick agressive men because of insecurity. Women are just naturally attracted to dominance, an Alpha male is makes a suitable mate.
Great comment
So, what he's saying is, if you wanna make a relationship seem more fulfilling to a woman, you should initially feign a bunch of character flaws that you later pretend she helped you overcome
This made me Lol. It’s kind of a solid plan!
Lollllllll. Too funny 😂
Then once she tames you, she'll be like "You've changed. You're not the man I fell in love with."
Spot on! I had a friend, who used to pretend to be deeply flawed in front of girls and then would slowly tell them a fake story about why he has grown so cold (could be how a girl broke his heart or how he has a distant relationship with his father, or things like that and he had to build up a hard shield around himself) but around her he felt comfortable and felt could talk about anything at all! LOL
I can't believe it worked every time.
@@anuraktisharma3664 omg you just discribed the relationship I have with my dad! Started out great at 11 years I stood up to him got the beating of a lifetime at 15 years I was fed and fought back 1 year later he tried making contact and ask me for a chance to meet once again. I told him if he treats and respect my mother I'll meet with you after 2 weeks later he was back to his old ways..He was'nt the best dad but that situation truely did make me financially succesfull as a business owner in life!
"Hello. My name is Aleister. Originally, I was a man. A man who helped to deliver children into this world. But, one fateful night, in a war ravaged land, my life and existence changed drastically. I was called upon to deliver the child of a soldier who was called to battle. His wife, a young woman of no more than twenty-five, was in labor when I arrived in their small cottage. I tried my best, as any man of medicine would. However, even though the woman survived, as well as the newborn girl, the hemorrhaging had an unforeseen effect. Little did I know, this woman was secretly in love with another being. A being of darkness. One who had set the transformation in motion before the labor began. The vampirism was in her blood. And, by contact with it, I myself became a creature of night. This is my tale.".
"There's nothing sexier than a werewolf... ApPArEntLY"
it's ok, professor, it's ok.
He's just sad that list doesn't have a professor in it lmao jk
@@_reutlinger Remus Lupin be walking on both sides
@@cecilianoda8510 haha yeah
@@_reutlinger He actually missed that, there's a lot of of Professor and student prohibited romanticism.
@@yourmum69_420 werewolves kink are like half furries
The pirate thing is hilarious considering pirates during the golden age were scruffy, filthy, stinking, suffering from a variety of ailments with bad oral hygiene. The smell in sailing vessels of old would make you vomit, these were ships where people shat over the side. Fresh water was also a serious issue.
Today's East African pirates aren't much better.
Apparently you've never read the back cover of one of those books. It's the romanticized version of a pirate. Not the real version. All those books are women's fantasies. Reality destroys them
@@michelebroyles6941 That was my point. It's all fantasy bollocks.
@@michelebroyles6941 makes your sexuality and romanticism very inauthentic.
@@louiss4672 isn't that why people call it "fantasy" though?
I think it's more the pirate captain with flowing feathers attached to a glorious hat that women are attracted to, and the whole assertion of dominance when he yells at the crew to man their stations etc
That's what i think, bc no one wants a partner with rotting teeth
"Literary vampire pirate billionaire surgeons!" - Alex Jones
TURNIN THE FRIGGIN VAMPIRES GAY
With mr. Jones being the wife-beater type.
I literally just spat out some of my meal. lmao.
Brilliant, thank you! :D
Literary Vampire/Werewolf hybrid, billionaire, pirate, surgeon. FTFY Alex.
I don't think it's about aggression at all, rather it's about power. You get someone powerful on your side, they will protect you and ensure your comfort. All mentioned are just different types of power.
I wanna marry a Billionaire Werewolf Surgeon
What about a Vampire Pirate? :D
I want a harem of blonde nurses 😂😂😂😂
That's a good goal.
sorry, i'm taken.
A billionaire werewolf who is a surgeon, a surgeon who operates only on billionaire werewolves or a surgeon who is a billionaire and only operates on werewolves?
Commas nigga
I love how he made it about himself so he does not embarrass her
That's really smart move
"I was reading this book called A Billion Wicked Thots"
😂
Brilliant
Dont know this has not gotten more likes ???
Underrrrrated!
How is this so fucking underrated
I have always been a fan of a good werewolf or vampire romance and I definitely still get drawn in by the level of masculinity they bring. But honestly has I have gotten older, and I am only early 20s mind you, I have realized how much I personally don't want that sort of relationship. I married a man who did not fit into the "needs to be tamed" category because I discovered I wanted to be with someone who wouldn't induce a heart attack by acting out rashly out of protectiveness or just sheer passion. I married a guy who would act but with more thought to his actions and how they could impact our life together. What I am saying is no matter how attractive men that take care of the problem, or get aggressive can be, I myself am way too independent and practical minded of a female to want that outside of a book lol. My man doesn't need to change for me, we will both adapt as necessary.
Did you like twilight? I found that insufferable!
How boring.
I think it's because a typical girl wants to feel safe in a relationship. Where the agressive guy would be dangerous to everyone else, but protective of her. But she wants to tame him to show she's strong in her own right, but not in a physical way. More on the emotional side of things, where she doesn't cave to the man's principles. It's a dangerous world out there and a girl just wants to feel safe and special through the person she's attracted to.
"Vampires..." Damn. "Werewolves..." Damn. "Billionaires..." Double Damn. "Pirates..." Oh sweet Jesus. "And surgeons..." I'm screwed.
LOL! GOT AS GOOD LAUGH. SOME OF THIS IS A FACT, HERES TO THE MONSTER/MANLY GENTLEMEN👍
😂😂 best comment
i was like wait. surgeons? all of this and then surgeons? im screwed!
As a female I can say he's bang-on.
cwaigasaurus You're fucking weird. Pathetic, even.
@Etta James Is that not allowed?
@Etta JamesSearch for a video titled 'Toxic masculinity in boys is fueling an epidemic of loneliness'. What does the woman in the video do?
@Etta James men are better at explaining women than women themselves. you can tell by the amount of comments by women figuring themselves out. there is no female peterson.
@@sturmgewehr449 well peterson himself has said that he understands men more than women, and even in this vid, he said that women r complicated
It’s cool that he doesn’t just educate but takes time to learn and more over finds instrumental lessons like Google searches (meaning he is curious about the right kinda things in my Opinion:)
Men have been simping for mythical women like mermaids, sirens etc for ages.
I'm not exactly fond of females that like to cannibalise me after
I'm not a praying mantis Regina
Yeah but that comes back to men just wanting the most beautiful woman or female form. A siren is dangerous but the danger isn't sexy. The siren herself is supposed to look good for that whole thing to work. The same thing with a mermaid. That's just an inhuman level of sexiness. Lol
There is no difference between men wanting the most beautiful and women wanting someone they can nourish. While men tend to get distracted by physical beauty more often, women have to form a bond like motherhood so that men can never leave.
Of course this interpretation is for the sake of fun Freudian conversations.
@@reginanemo640 well yes... there is. The women are looking for the aggression, the danger. They want to tame the man so he becomes essentially a guard dog, projecting that out into the world and being soft toward the family. Men aren't attracted to any of that. The only reason they might like mythical creatures like mermaids is because they're hot. That's it.
@@reginanemo640 implying that women don't always try and go for the most handsome men all the time ...right...
Damn, so engineers have cracked the code on us, huh? Not gonna lie, not the group you think about when you imagine the ones to crack the female code.
Lmao imagine dedicating a good chunk of your life to getting a Master's Degree in Engineering only to be assigned to tasks like this
They did not. But neural networks crunching on big data will or already have. And those are designed by it engineers.
And maybe we don' t really need engineers for it to notice, do we? But it's a nice and simple proof
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@@masonroyal36 You kidding? To a willing or vaguely interested one, "We're gonna investigate this data on female preferences in porn. Why? For science!"
This is also why women don't fall for "nice guys." Nice guys is of course a misinterpretation of passive males. You can be nice and have the potential to be threatening at the same time.
"Nice guys" are those passive males who get anrgy on the internet and complain about how women they were initally white knighting for are horrible and superficial simply because their being a "nice guy" did not get them laid.
Almost all my hook ups were from me playing the nice guy. Before I make a move I ask first. I still get what I want.
@@harmondraws or maybe it's because of your willingness to make a move
Nice guys always get laid.
The problem with "nice guys" is that they don't have any social skills other than being nice . Neither are they good at dealing with rejection.
Well. Ill put in my two cents. Im very attracted towards kind guys, quiet and seemingly passive guys. I love it even more however when theres confidence within that archetype. They feel stable and have potential for dominence. Overly passive and guys that would do anything for me is a turn off.
It's not so much be a bad guy but rather be centered and confident in who u are. If someone is too distant however thatll attract many anxious types so beware how cold yall decide to act as well. Just be nice and be interested. (was this too chaotic and rant y? Maybe idk)
I'm 32 and Australian.... I still have some of these explicit romance novels I found as a teenager 😅 thank you for the insight
When will Dr. Peterson realize professor is also one of the fantasies...
Hahahahahahahahahhaha
Is this actually true? Because i dont think so
Professor, my grades are down and might not pass the course, how can I make it up to ya..*lip bite*
@bokudensuduharagmail i know about teachers but thats not Professor! Professor is not sexy at all, you just imagine a old man there
@bokudensuduharagmail well now im truly surprised damn, you know to be a real Professor you need many years, means you get pretty old and i tought its a old man fantasy rather then a Professor fantasy
*BEST THUMBNAIL EVER*
Hahah, thank you.
Not only he's an amazing guy, Peterson is a hilarious teacher.
I like his last statement: "females are more complicated, and it's no wonder, their lives are more complicated" -- amen!
Only because women complicate everything so ofc your life will be more complicated.
I’m only partially being sarcastic.
So I'll grow a beard, wear an eyepatch and a black cape, have cash in one pocket, scapel in the other, go to the club and say 'Aaarrr' a lot and howl at the moon.
That should do it!
tsopmocful Good luck mate
So a homeless dude but without the cash?
No, no, no... you need to “Aaarrr” at the moon
tsopmocful ABSOLUTELY!!!! 🤣🤣🤣☺️☺️☺️
No, it won't work unless you're a _book_ describing yourself as all those things.
I hope those students appreciated how lucky they were to have Jordan Peterson as their professor!
Those 5 archetypes simply represent different forms of male power that women wish to grab through seduction and make their own.
- Billionaire = money.
- Surgeon = professional skill.
- Werewolf = physical strength.
- Vampire = manipulative charisma.
- Pirate = criminality.
I have none of these
I would just change.... vampire = mysterie
Vampire : Love immortal
thats how you access the femoid mind
Also a pirate is free from societies constraints like the law. (Billionaire also in a financial way)
Such a brilliant teacher!
Seeing him laugh here made me really happy because i just saw his latest video after the recovery
Fun fact after he got done with this lecture he went out to the singles bar dressed up as a pirate with fangs...
basically the plot of tarzan, a wild dude, who is the son of a wealthy person and over the course of the story gets tamed by jane
Dr. Peterson is the father a lot of us wish we had.
Me: Yarr, give up the booty!
Her: I’m calling the police!
LMFAO
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lmaooo
🤣🤣🤣
"Aye, it be fool's gold...".
Harlequin romance is bad... real bad... this is the voice of a woman speaking to you. Im glad Jordan finds these novels as laughable as I do.
Harlequin?
I love smut because it is so bad. Like a beautiful disaster
Is that where the character Harlequin is from?..
Agreed! My mom used to have SO many of those books lying around. I only ever read one, though - it was about a lady who falls in love with the ghost of a pirate. I was like, hell yes, how I can pass on something as insane as that? :D
But yeah, romance novels are dumb. I have no interest in a vampire or werewolf or billionaire surgeon who's an awful person. No time at all for that! Pirates are cool though. But that said, ever since I was a kid, I was attracted to the rogue types of characters cos I wanted to BE one - they're charming, witty, resourceful, skilled, and usually lucky; who wouldn't want to be like that? Being romantically involved with one, though... eh, I could take it or leave it :P
Of course it's bad. It's *porn.*
I think he's right to a point. There are women that do fall for that type of guy - doesn't mean they all do. Guys who are reasonably attractive and very funny are the ones that tend to have more success. I think being very humorous comes across to women as being confident and intelligent which I think more women are attracted to than being overly aggressive.
It's not about being agressive, it's the implied aggression. Which gets released when they have passionate implied sex.
Well you're not really superman-ing Jordan's position here larey. "overly agressive" by definition means more than is accepted or desired. What he's essentially saying is that disagreeableness in men is ultimately more attractive than agreeableness even though it obviously has associated flaws and dangers, which should indicate the importance of the virtues of it.
Being funny is really being aggressive.
It is the same thing. Confidence, empowerment to be oneself. We gravitate to this as it embodies security.
@@jasminabourgeois7434 I tend to disagree. It's a little more complicated.
Women like attractive guys, in terms of personality women like guys that are powerful, what powerful represents to each woman is generally different, sometimes it's physical size, sometimes it's masculine features, sometimes it's a mans ability to socialize well. And sometimes it's his ability to argue and be intellectual.
Five types of monster: Vampire, werewolf, pirate, millionaire, surgeon
"Nothing gets a bitch wetter than a wooden leg, hairy chest and a dislike of garlic" ~ Don Juan
Sbeast 😂
I can't find that quote anywhere, and who is don juan?
You forgot the parrot...lol you know how women love animals.😆
Could someone explain this quote?
Yarrr!
Finally, I have something to be proud aboot!
I BUILT THE INTERNET!!!!!
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And for learning, such as this video!
NisseOnRUclips learning... what I can fap to*
(Still researching)
i just thumbed this up cos it was on 68 and i believe it should stay at just one more in honour of the images that made the internet great lol
x'D
A Guy In a Van Hero
I can only speak for myself, but I used to love such romance stories when I was a teenager, but not anymore - a lack of emotional control and overall angstiness seem juvenile and just unattractive. I think he's wrong to mix sexuality with the topic of relationships, too. What turns you on is not necessarily what you look for in a partner. These romances are things to get off to - not something most people actually wish happened to them if it were possible. At least from my experience - I was in a relationship with the "tough and dominant" type of guy and lo and behold, it sucked. Later on, I learned to value democratic relationships and got to know the beautiful intimacy a vulnerable individual can give. I do however think he hit the nail on the head when he said that when chaos ensues, how are you going to know a tame person is going to be able to handle it? Some sort of strength is a desirable quality in a partner, but I think it is so to some extent for both sexes. Nobody finds complete helplessness and neediness attractive.
I would take you more seriously if your profile wasn't of some anime girl getting turned on
@@srose7366 gottem
I think he just meant naturally and imaginative. Most of the time, it happened in teenagers and sometimes it could progress to adult too if they are still not mature. But overall when they actually experienced it, of course, no one would want a toxic man like that. I know one who go in thinking “Ah I could change him.” But well it just lead to disaster.
These are stimulating fantasies, but not the stuff of real relationships.
Women, however, do desire a man who is willing and able to protect her. That is the primary role of the man.
Actually, now that you've mentioned it, it got me thinking.
From how Dr. Peterson described 'A billion wicked thoughts' it seems that this analysis was conducted in the early stages of the internet ( about the period where it was not widespreadly adopted)
So this may have introduced a certain sample selection bias in the searches that were statistically analysed as at that time i imagine only relatively young people would be using the internet. So maybe thats the reason why this analysis may be not in line with your experience.
But this is just a hypothesis, take this with a grain of salt.
My favourite 5 minutes of stand up anywhere! The Marge Simpson gargle of his voice only adds to the titillation. Then he finally says, "Surgeons, werewolves and vampires", and the punchline connects.
Guffaw.
Dang Peterson, you can’t just call a girl out like that! XD
This is very true. A lot of women follow this fantasy of taming wild men, they like his aggression, his flair, his unpredictability, they like the danger of getting hurt but they don't want to get hurt. A lot of these women fail to tame the aggressive male and they end up getting hurt but you see them falling for the next bad boy again over the nice guy, they can't help themselves.
Tell me about it
No, they choose men who aren't mature and have learned to tame themselves
Nah, I have chosen a nice guy next. He’s an amazing human being, I guess.
i think the biggest issue is the shitty men label themselves as "nice guys" which means women arent gonna trust u. As a woman, men like to talk about these "bad boys" but in real life, these kinds of men that u think women go after or the stereotypes u have in ur head dont even exist
Yall r so damn annoying bruh. "Why don't women want nice guys like me"😭. Women like nice guys. The issue is that you're not attractive to them that's it. Women just like men. Pick based on attraction. Nice or not if you're attractive you will get a woman. Stop this delusion
This literally makes so much sense. I just realized that I used to read porn into literary format. Never actual videos or images lmao.
Women are creative and invest time ... men are busy and want to just get it done with 😂😂😂
Yep. The one book I was allowed to read which was mild 'romance,' was read a few times over. I still am looking for my own Lord Sheftu.
@@chaitanyavelamala7268 exactly, totally agree with you
No one asked, but I'm here to explain the vampire one in more detail. I don't think it's as weird or shallow as it seems on the surface 😅
It's important to note that women don't typically like *evil* vampires who are actively killing people. Women like *good* vampires. Whether we're talking about Twilight, Buffy, or any of the thousands of other vampire stories out there, women like noble vampires who willingly choose to abstain from human blood.
I think this is because the bloodlust vampires feel is a thinly veiled metaphor for sexual lust (or possibly any addictive sin). In other words, a vampire who can control his desire to drink blood is a man who can control his sexual desire. A good vampire represents a man who is strong enough to resist temptation and rise above his nature in an effort to protect others.
In my opinion, this is the primary reason the idea of vampires appeals to women (especially the more traditionally-minded variety). Good vampires are men with morals and values. They have the power to hurt others but they choose against it. They don't give into selfish, carnal pleasures at the expense of others, no matter how powerful the temptation may be.
Bonus: vampires usually live a long time (because they're immortal), so over the years, they've acquired wisdom, intelligence, and life experience. They're old souls. They're emotionally mature. They're civilized and refined. They typically come from an earlier time when chivalry was the norm. That gentlemanly nature seems to linger within them.
The bottom line: vampires represent the female desire for men who can control their actions even in the face of strong temptation, have life experience and maturity, and behave like gentlemen. The interesting thing is that these are completely attainable goals for any regular guy (or girl--I'm trying to work on some of these things myself), and I'm thankful to know many real men who exemplify these qualities beautifully.
In fact, I'm blessed to be dating my very own "noble vampire." 😉
The abstain from blood bit isnt really right as abstaining kills them often women are ok with becoming vampires in those stories. For example I just checked the girl from twilight became a vampire I don't think I got past the 2nd movie or even the 1st. Many vampires also have castles Can Grant immortality to their partner and are hunted by vampire hunters. With a vampire it's considered good enough if they don't kill those they suck blood from
@@monkeymanwasd1239 Abstaining from blood doesn't kill them in any of the vampire stories I've heard of. Not in Twilight, Buffy, etc. They live forever regardless of whether they drink blood or not. And yes, in Twilight, Bella becomes a vampire but she never once tastes human blood. She chooses to become a good vampire just like the one she fell in love with. So yes, it still applies.
@@KylieMalchusArt The vampires I know can survive months or years without drinking blood but that's usually when they're in a coffin dried up into husks before they go off to murder several towns of people
What if i bite ur neck?
This is probably one of two or three comments best answers this question. This and the "we just love fantasy, think of elves" rebuttal.
... I don't know guys, you can listen to Jordan all you want, but I just don't get why you wouldn't ask women themselves directly if you really wanted to know why.
Cuz it just happens that they appear HOT in movies. If they're ugly pirates and vampires, we won't like em
Oh look I had no idea I made comment 6 months ago
@@kikithepupper6774 lollll
well everyone is hot in movies..
None of these movies would work if the billionare or vampirr was a short indian male
@@ponternal Whoa whoa, hey, nothing wrong with an Indian male. Don't be mean.
is it weird that im a guy and when I was younger I fantasized about having a scary sexy female vampire girlfriend
Meh. Everyone's weird. I had an imaginary sea monster carcass friend when i was 6.
Dana Scully 🤣🤣
that's not weird
Serana from Skyrim
That's just because basic males want a goth gf. It's in your DNA.
This guy is interesting I want to go to his University to attend his classes everyday. I have never seen a teacher to articulate such controversial topics so easily and meaningfully. Where he forces others to think wheter thay want to or not. Hands of applause Jorden B Peterson.
When I was like 20~ I loved reading books and I also favoured the 'bad guys', vampires and werewolves. I also questioned why I felt drawn to them and why alot of other women do too. And I think I found an answer that sounds plausible and right to me.
I think those bad guys represent things that a lot of women dont have. They represent what some women long for, what might bring balance.
Since young age, I and a lot other girls are taught to behave, be calm, show good manners, be empathetic, be good at school, do this, do that, in fact: be a good girl and you'll get praised. I know so many that grow up this way into adulthood. And if you happen to also be a shy girl, books can be an escape from this situation, this world, in which you feel like everything you are and will be is decided by someone else.
And then you meet those characters, the bad guys, the vampires, the werewolves. They represent all that: Independence, power, being unapologetic, free, wild, adventurous, special, being egoistical. Thats what (I think) a lot desire about those men. They want what they dont have .
I think I would actually vaporise on the spot if JBP pointed out I was blushing THAT POOR GIRL 💀
"What makes you think you want someone who is tame anyways?"....If this conversation could have continued, or if any female romance novel or film could continue beyond the woman taming the male character and "living happily ever after", then you'd see a slow death of the relationship as the women all realize they are no longer attracted to their now tame man, because who would be? That is the real takeaway about how females look at men. They love the idea of the alpha male and the bad boy but only insomuch as they can tame them and make them come around to acting the way the female prefers...which then kills what was attractive about that man in the first place.
True. Thats one of the reasons why "Women dont know what they want" saying is still so frequently used in men conversations. They are walking contradiction.
I agree, this is called "the bad boy phase" some women go threw, until they realize they have nothing in common or a real relationship with their bad boy. They were only infatuated with them because of their masculinity, and confidence, despite bad or lack of qualities.
which is fine, as long as women don't expect a good man to wait for them to outlive this stupid phase. Men want women they can have families with, not someone who has gone through a dozen Skrillex clones
Ikr then your like "Exactly how many guys?"
I guess no man would also be interested in the story about already saved princess living with her prince who now drinks beer and takes out the trash.
so this complaint makes no sense.
(Vampires specifically) I think as a whole it’s a “I choose you and only you” mentality that women gravitate towards. Intense loyalty mixed with super strength and sexual tension. It’s a good combo. don’t think the whole drinking blood thing is the attraction part, or the fact that they are dead. Like when I was young I didnt get the whole vampire thing until I watched Buffy, (but the difference with that is good character writing)
I think the blood thing is either kinky or a visual representation of the danger lurking in the heart of the monster. Also vampires tend to be well-dressed and sophisticated which makes for a nice balance between savagery and civilization.
@@heyhey439 Maybe also the “you’re damaged but I can save you” thing too. At least with some women.
@@beajack4990 Plus! If he bites her or something then they can be immortal together forever yada yada
@@heyhey439 right like the “I choose you” mentality, that undying loyalty and connection. Which honestly isn’t a bad thing to want. Who wouldn’t want a super loyal person who wants you forever? If it’s mutual of course
@@beajack4990 Especially if you both get to live in an epic castle.
You can add another one to this - princes. Women love princes as well. If you look at fantasy romances for women audiences the male leads are commonly princes.
And I can agree with what other comments have said, I like these types of characters because they make you feel special. I also get a strong sense of loyalty, like this person won't cheat on me or betray me, because I am special and they only love me. And of course, I'll only love them and be loyal too, it's like a fantasy of true love and happily ever after.
princes are the billionaires of the past
I wonder if females lose interest once they feel their man has been fully tamed
Actually no they don't. There's no point in taming someone into being good with others. The point of taming is for the male to be civil towards his girl only. He has to keep that aggression towards the outside world.
Think about it. If a women seeks out a dominant male, this is power, this is protection. If you strip it ALL away... you will be left with the opposite of what you seek. The point is to "tame" the man into being caring and compassionate towards you only. What good will a tamed male be if he cowers at other threats?
As Peterson explained. Tame is in the sense of being civil. Towards the outside world only. You can still be civil and ASSERTIVE, CONFIDENT, etc.That's positive dominance.
But someone who is simply aggressive and violent towards his own spouse... will be violent towards the children as well. As a female, if you let the husband be so untamed that he hurts the offspring. You have failed your one job.
It's quite simple. Find a dominant male. Tame him to the extent he is protective and caring of the family. Turning a guy into a pussy is useless. And honestly, I have actually never seen a case like that. If it does happen, the male in question wasn't very assertive to begin with. Just anti-social. And that anti-social and bad behavior was mistaken for dominance. Which it is not.
Young girls often confused "bad boys" for being dominant. But that is a false. Being anti-society is not dominance. Just think of these weak emo kids. They are "bad" in the sense of ignoring rules, not caring about the future etc. But they are not dominant. You want to tame a dominant male into caring about you and the family. That's it.
Anti social is same shit you can try to say that isint but it dosent change the fact
um no... Any psychology book will tell you there's a very distinct difference. Anti-social people are AGAINST society. They cause harm to people, they do not want to follow the rules, etc. They are anti- society.
Asocial is when you do not want to socialize. You AVOID society.
Avoiding society is not the same as being AGAINST society.
But yes, I understand where your confusion is coming from. People are misusing the word antisocial. Professionals do not misuse it. In fact, psychopathy and sociopathy are under the category of antisocial. Just to give you a clue of how serious it is.
If you are still unsure, just look up antisocial personality disorder. It's the medical diagnoses for people who are antisocial.
Being antisocial is considered a mental illness.
Being asocial is not.
TriggerWarning I used to explain this to people but eventually got tired of it. (psych major in college)
Yeap once a guy gives a girl everything he has to offer she gets bored and moves on to the next,
“there’s nothing sexier than a warewolf,,apparently” 😂😂 I love this man !
Pirate: "Jarrrrrrrr, Melady, I captured ye ship and now you will become me wife jarrrrrrr!"
Woman: **I N S T A N T M O I S T U R E**
This Needs To Be A Scene In A Movie 😂💀
@@SpookyShivers Pirates of the caribbean: exists
Pirate: “Yarrrrr, give up the booty!”
Damn that's hot
😂😂