In my opinion Ian Gillan brought a renewed sense of danger to Black Sabbath. The only album by the line-up is not perfect by any means, but by God, does it have menace! It sounds like some insane beast raging in a cage. Ahead of its time, I think. Almost a grunge-y vibe to it.
One of my favorite Black Sabbath albums ever! I've never understood why some people have a problem with this album. It's simply brilliant! Vocally and musically.
Born Again is Sabbath's most dangerous sounding work. If Deep Purple hadn't reformed the next could of been interesting too but how do you top Born Again?
I remember buying Born Again when it was just released...It certainly was different...34 years later,I still listen to it occasionally..under rated album.
The strangest thing is that this particular song is more Gillan-style than Dio... arrangement sucks... He could enter with "CryAAAAAAAAAy out"... with his firm sound... but they made just silly rock'n'roll of this song... they probably had no time.
The main problem was that he had a serious throat surgery before joining Sabbath. He was told by the doctors not to sing at least one year because the voice needed to rest, otherwise he could damage his vocal cords forever... But he didn't care and four months after the surgery he joined Sabbath and started singing songs that weren't composed for his voice and with his still non-recovered vocal cords it was a fatal decision....
I was at this show, but I don't remember Ian's voice sounding so strained. I just remember see him play the conga drums during this song with his hair flying all around and Bev Bevan on drums. The crowd didn't know what to make of this show, but I liked it and I was glad I went. They played "Supernaut" & "Rock n' Roll Doctor" too which is more in Ian's ballpark. The opening band "Heaven" was good too. A weird show, but good! Stonehenge!!!!
Matthew Di Flumeri I think Ozzy would poop his pants if he tried to sing Gillan's parts in Deep Purple! Dio at least stood a better chance at hitting those notes.
Do you think they let him chose the Sabbath songs they were going to do, I wondered that when I saw the RnR Dr clip, Usually it WarPigs Paranoid ...the same set, (Ozzy really is a let down, All those great songs like spiral architect and those great guitar players and bands he had and he starts off with "I don't know" and finishes with "paranoid" every night, with the same meat in between. for 50 years.... brutally unprofessional and appallingly uncreative.
Way way underrated is Ian Gillan. Best. All time. He was friends with Ronnie James and still Plant, i guess. Keeps his vocals up and adam is why he kicks ass
Was that at San Francisco cow palace ? I regret to this day not trying harder to go . I saw ozzy in March of 84 weeks before my 12th birthday & then saw van Halen in May of 84 at the cow palace . All those concerts were so close together I know sabbath came before them I think in February . Born again to me is legendary album & time for sabbath .
Im a huge sabbath fan & intimately familiar with everything they've ever done, & I can say without reservation that Born Again is the most unique & dark album they've ever made. Ian's vocals are incomparable & unmatched. Ive yet to hear anyone try to cover anything off Born Again, & theres a very good reason for that..... NO ONE can!
@@joselathario Ya thats the ONLY track on the record that doesn't have any of those monstrous waling screams.I should have said thats the only track you could even attempt to sing, unless you are going to just cut out all the screams.
Very cool. Thank you for the upload. Ozzy Sabbath is my favorite, but I really did (and still do) like "Born Again" and Gillan is 1 of my all-time faves.
Surely I'm not the only one here that has read Tony's autobiography IronMan where he mentions that Ian had just had nodes removed from his vocal folds before joining Sabbath. He was told by the doctors that he had to take at least a year off to truly rehab but went back a mere four months after surgery. That is the real reason why he didn't sound very good. I saw the born again when they came out here & luckily, he sounded okay. It must've been an early show on the leg of the tour.
Wow that's news to me I always liked his take on sabbath And listening to iommi play smoke on the water too! Lol That scream fallsetto rasp is insane on disturbing the priest born again was amazing Tony's guitar was a roto grind crunch , one of the sickest guitar sounds ever recorded!
This is the only Black Sabbath song IG had a little trouble with but it still sounds decent. Everything else he sang was fucking awesome!! Pretty good audio dude. Thanks for posting it!
Reading some of these comments are hysterical. Imagine if Dio or Ozzy tried to do this or that? These singers are all fantastic, but even if you are a devoted Gillian fan just admit to yourself that RJ Dio is the best that ever existed. The battle for second place is up for grabs. Not just in Sabbath, but in the universe.
this is amazing---thank you for this--i love DIO and i love GILLAN--thanks to you now ive heard both!!!---is it just me but is this truely better music than metal these days--dont get me wrong,i love some heavy .brutal metal,but,this is pure feel good love life music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG smiles here
@@andersonmoreira5248 ele não estava passando por uma fase muito boa, tendo feito cirurgia nas cordas vocais recentemente, e dissolvido a banda Gillan por este motivo. Ele deveria ter ficado mais tempo descansando, mas rapidamente já estava envolvido com o Black Sabbath.
I think this album was vocally challenging to Ian at a time when he was living an abusive RnR life . Pushing 40 this wouldn't have been a problem in the 70s . It could have definitely been a RnR album for the ages ✌
Not to knock your vid but I don't think Ian was his best on this song that night. There is another audio of him doing Neon Knights in I believe Dayton, Ohio right at the end of the tour that sounds really good. But I still luv this vid/aud! Brings back alot of memories. Thanks for posting!
Years?? He was not in Sabbath for even a year was he? The only time I ever saw Black Sabbath in concert was with Gillan and he screamed like a banshee so you might have a point. It was like he was sending out vocal daggers into the audience. He was amazing. I'm going to check out "Mr. Universe" as I am still unfamiliar with his solo recordings. "Child in Time" from Made In Japan" is one of my fav vocal performances of ANY singer. Good thing Arthur Brown was there to influence singers to scream.
no doubt--anyone who can sing the part of Jesus, and then front a band called Black Sabbath has my vote! Dio was amazing, Ozzy was amazing, and old Ian was amazing.
Ian Gillan for me is the greatest rock singer there has ever been he was brilliant at Sab listen Reading fest but he doesnt do Dio but then Dio sucked at Ozzy songs
+NightShooter I saw them at the Reading Festival and they were terrible, Ian had voice problems that needed surgery and it showed, three years earlier Gillan smoked Reading, I was there for that one too, and Ians voice was superb.
Stephen, nice to hear from someone who was actually there. I still have the review from the Reading Festival that was featured in Kerrang magazine that year, which said Sabbath were awful! And from the bootlegs I've gotten over the years, I could pretty much agree. From what I gather, they didn't do any songs from the Dio era, and even worse, broke out Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water" (which for some odd reason, people seem now to think was cool and don't realize that a LOT of Sabbath fans were pissed at them for doing that back then). But I do like this performance of "Neon Knights"! Cheers!
I was there too, at Reading in 1983 and didn't find the gig that bad. In fact, I thought Gillan did a wonderful job with the Ozzy era songs. It is true that Sabbath doing Smoke On The Water was a bit of a low that evening. I myself found it silly and I remember Iommi's body language and facial expression suggesting it didn't sit quite well with him either.
I started listening to Black Sabbath because of the Heaven & Hell album. Didn't know Ozzy was the singer in Sabbath until I started sourcing their earlier stuff and realized it wasn't Dio. I tried to listen to the original songs with Ozzy but I couldn't. He's such a terrible singer compared to Dio. I went right back to Dio and that's all I'll listen to even on the original stuff. No Ozzy for me.
@@JimmyRJump It was apparently Tony's suggestion to do the song. I don't have a problem with it, but then again I wasn't there. But yeah, I agree Ian did a great job with the Ozzy songs. Paranoid on a good night in 83 is one of my favourite versions of the song (Worcester!) The Dio stuff is much, much harder to sing. Bear in mind, they also didn't play Trashed - possibly the hardest song in the entire Sabbath catalogue. Never performed live by Sabbath, as far as I know. When Ian revived it for a solo album of old songs he moved the key wayyyy down but still didn't do it on the resulting tour!
GIllan's voice was baked by the end of this tour. I caught them in Toledo towards the end and it was not too good, really. IG actually sounded good on Neon Knights, which they opened with. He calmed it down and almost spoke it, with that hard enunciation he sometimes uses at the end of a verse. They followed with Hot Line and it was rough. He did well on certain tunes. Tunes like Rock And Roll Doctor and a couple of others, but for the most part, he was pretty hoarse. They were also exceedingly loud, almost painful and ended blowing a circuit in the sound system and everything came to a screeching halt, with IG coming out and tapping on the mic until they got things back on track. Gillan was good, as usual, with his between song banter. I certainly don't regret going, but I wish that I would have seen them in the beginning before Gillan blew his voice out. Bad decision to come back before his voice totally healed and the constant screaming did too much damage for him to ever get his voice back in fairly decent shape. Too bad.
I was at this show too. Crazy when the power went out and one if the loudest shows I’ve ever been to. Weird pairing with Night Ranger opening up the show. Great to see Brad Gillis play. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@hazor777 Yeah, it's not like he couldn't sing afterwards, but it was never the same. Perfect Strangers has some difficult to sing songs on it (although not compared to Born Again!) and he soars, but just comparing his vocals early on in the Sabbath tour with even the best (early on) in the PS tour, it's kind of sad. Child In Time would never be the same. To be fair, he's already done some damage before that - took the 'rock and roll' thing a bit too literally and never bothered to look after it. But before and after the Born Again tour was when it was never the same again. He did recover up to a point in the late 90s, but we're not talking Born Again studio levels. He was just mostly singing well, but was older. Also, why the chose to open the show with this instead of Children Of The Grave is a mystery. That song was pretty cool with Gillan, whereas Neon Knights was never going to sound right even if his voice was healthy.
Gillan is a brilliant singer and the stuff he wrote with Sabbath wasn't bad, but he just couldn't do the older material, just doesn't suit his vocal style.
I strongly disagree. I happen to think the version of "Black Sabbath" on the Worcester bootleg is the best version done of the song... vocally, that is. I also think Ian did a top notch job on Heaven and Hell, Children of the Grave, Paranoid. Then again, I didn't go in expecting Ozzy or Dio.
I was a hardcore Ozzy fan but once I heard Dio and Gilan sing them, especially Gilan it was all over. Also, Gilan had throat surgery. If he was in his prime singing for Sabbath there would be no competition. His version of Black Sabbath and Iron Man are the best ever.
They should've done some material from Sabbath,Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage imagine if Gillan tackled SBS or The Thrill of It All or The Writ for example...
A funny tidbit from Ian's book... he said he couldn't remember any of Ronnie's words so he had them written on stage. Worked fine until the fog machine kicked in.
as a sabbath fan ill say dio def was made for this song- now i think IAN gillan was great on born again- def tough on him to do this song and few other sabbath tunes- but in fairness he was told to take time off and get his throat treated prior to this tour with sabbath but decided to just go on with the shows. so he wasnt in full capacity. live. plus he was a bit out of his deep purple element but exactly a yr later when he rejoined purple.to make perfect strangers album. he was great sounding and that album was awesome. SABBATH RULE
@OVERKILLSLAYER95 Gillan joined Deep Purple in 1970 and Dio's band, ELF, opened for them around that time so I think it's hard to say either of them influenced each other, well that and they sing differently
I was at this show.....and let me say that this is not fair to judge Ian because this was towards the end of the tour and his voice was strained yes it was but that happens to every singer in this genre of course...if you want a better example of this tour i recommend Worcester FM broadcast from a bit earlier in the tour
One of the most-potential, best-results combos in rock (Sabbath and Gillan). The studio album is great, 'Disturbing the priest and 'trashed' are awesome songs while "Born Again" is a masterpiece. On stage it worked great too...despite some old BS songs were not for Gillan (like this one) he demostrated he could equal or even surpass his predecessors on some others...the only minor point was the drummer imo...
Its Gillan he does what he does and at this time he was having a few issues so by the time you got him live hes messing with vocal styles. IF THEY WOULD MIX THE BORN AGAIN ALBUM THEN YOU WOULD SEE WHAT IT SHOULD BE LIKE!!!
@SnakeRambo Ok true but that was more of a duet rather than Dio being a lead singer for the band. It was kinda a one night stand if you catch my drift.
When I saw this tour in Toronto, the only Dio song they attempted was Heaven and Hell, and I think Children of the Sea. For very obvious reasons....Love Gillan, but he just couldn't do RJD. Quiet Riot opened, my first Metal concert!
I loved the Born Again album, and Gillan in Sabbath, ... and my favorite Sabbath lineup is "Geezer and the Three Italians", but it's clear that Gillan didn't really get the Dio material. He was a bit better with the Ozzy era stuff, but that's because the lyrics and melodies were easier to remember than things like "Neon Knights" and "Heaven and Hell". I really have to believe Ian's explanation that his biggest problem in Sabbath was that he couldn't get the lyrics to stick in his head. It's a good bet he wasn't listening to Black Sabbath before he got trashed and accidentally joined the band.
Interesting to listen to, but not excellent. I think Gillan could have done 'Die Young' or 'Children of the Sea' or something else off 'H&H' better than this. I actually like his rendition of 'Heaven & Hell'. The Worcester gig is excellent, and Ian does a great job on 'Heaven & Hell' there. Personally I would love to have heard 'Voodoo' or 'Country Girl' in favour of this during the 'Born Again' tour. Much more in Gillan's "comfort zone" vocally I think. I think Iommi gave Gillan free access to choose some songs for the tour setlist. I know 'The Wizard' was rehearsed by dropped for some reason, 'Tommorrow's Dream' was rehearsed as well, and rumoured to have been played once, but I doubt it. 'Rock N Roll Doctor' and 'Supernaut' was chosen by Gillan as well.
Obviously Gillan was the best singer to ever be in Sabbath, they just didn't fit very well together. The Born Again album is fantastic though, despite the horrible mix.
Gillan is a good singer. The problem is Gillen pushed way too hard on the album and couldn't replicate it consistently on the tours. He butchered lyrics in almost every bootleg out there. Gillan himself said he was the worst singer in Sabbath history. So i truly hope you were being sarcastic by putting the "Obviously" in there. LOL.
etphonehome No, I wasn't being sarcastic. He didn't fit with Sabbath, true enough, but as a singer he was the best to ever be in the band. Just not the best FOR this band.
@bo7341 Doubt Dio could sing Born Again as beautifully as Gillan did. I'm not trying to say one is better though. They're both wonderful and soulfull. And Ozzy was in his own way too.
@aocidicoa sure Gillan has a higher range but Dio sang with his soul in a way nobody else has or will be able to, every sabbath singer was awesome in their own way
@OVERKILLSLAYER95 Gillan couldn't have had an influence on Dio, Dio performed starting in 1957 and Gillan started in 1962 but again I think they're both awesome and don't mean that as a knock on Gillan
@bracadeira Im sorry too guy but judgment needs no understanding. I think Ian crushes DIO from vocal range, to melody structure to lyrics. And all you gotta do is just deal with it.
Well yeah, Gillan seems to struggle big time on this one. Alas, I guess the same could be said about Dio if he tried to sing "Trashed" or any other song off the "Born Again" album...
Why would you doubt it? Ronnie James Dio was truly a superb vocalist, but a banshee screamer ala Halford or Gillan he certainly was not. So, there would've been no way for him to replicate those high pitched falsettos Gillan pulled off all over the "Born Again" album (or any other album in Gillan's prime, for that matter). Take for example Aerosmith's "Dream On" cover that Dio recorded with Yngwie Malmsteen: during the final part of the song, when Steven Tyler originally yelled "Dream On" time and again, Dio simply chose to avoid those screams. It just wasn't a part of his vast technique.
Dio's secret is all about clever breathing - he played Trumpet early in life and he attributed his technique to that. That's how he still sounded astonishing as he got older. when he had Stomach cancer, he just sounded slightly hoarse! Incredible. But Trashed doesn't let the singer breathe at all - that's why it's never been performed live - not even by Gillan! Also why he changed the key completely when he rerecorded it.
@bracadeira You are comparing Dio to Gillan well past his prime. Love Dio but he could never sing songs like Child in Time, Place in Line and many others....
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In my opinion Ian Gillan brought a renewed sense of danger to Black Sabbath. The only album by the line-up is not perfect by any means, but by God, does it have menace! It sounds like some insane beast raging in a cage. Ahead of its time, I think. Almost a grunge-y vibe to it.
Well said.
One of my favorite Black Sabbath albums ever! I've never understood why some people have a problem with this album. It's simply brilliant! Vocally and musically.
It is my favorite Sabbath album.
Im addicted to this album.
Born Again is Sabbath's most dangerous sounding work. If Deep Purple hadn't reformed the next could of been interesting too but how do you top Born Again?
I remember buying Born Again when it was just released...It certainly was different...34 years later,I still listen to it occasionally..under rated album.
It's hard to not get a speeding ticket when you jam it (trashed) while driving. Nor drive home shitfaced listening to when death calls
Gillan soooooooooooooo out of his comfort zone
The strangest thing is that this particular song is more Gillan-style than Dio... arrangement sucks... He could enter with "CryAAAAAAAAAy out"... with his firm sound... but they made just silly rock'n'roll of this song... they probably had no time.
The main problem was that he had a serious throat surgery before joining Sabbath. He was told by the doctors not to sing at least one year because the voice needed to rest, otherwise he could damage his vocal cords forever... But he didn't care and four months after the surgery he joined Sabbath and started singing songs that weren't composed for his voice and with his still non-recovered vocal cords it was a fatal decision....
Sad but true. Plus all the drinking and smoking didn't help either.
Le toubib lui avait recommandé une année sabatique, il aura mal compris.
The problem is he is not a true tenor like Dio….
@@richardbelisle4807and he is what?
A fantastic singer 🙂
Both Ian and Sabbath knew it was a shitty situation (blame Don Arden and $/time constraints) and they still had a fucking awesome year. Respect,.
born again its a great album!!!! ian gillan voice its full of power....i dont care if DIO have a better voice..gillan its a master.
Ian is a legend
I was at this show, but I don't remember Ian's voice sounding so strained. I just remember see him play the conga drums during this song with his hair flying all around and Bev Bevan on drums. The crowd didn't know what to make of this show, but I liked it and I was glad I went. They played "Supernaut" & "Rock n' Roll Doctor" too which is more in Ian's ballpark. The opening band "Heaven" was good too. A weird show, but good! Stonehenge!!!!
Can you imagine Ozzy or Dio trying to do the five octaves of Child in Time...
Matthew Di Flumeri I think Ozzy would poop his pants if he tried to sing Gillan's parts in Deep Purple! Dio at least stood a better chance at hitting those notes.
Do you think they let him chose the Sabbath songs they were going to do, I wondered that when I saw the RnR Dr clip, Usually it WarPigs Paranoid ...the same set, (Ozzy really is a let down, All those great songs like spiral architect and those great guitar players and bands he had and he starts off with "I don't know" and finishes with "paranoid" every night, with the same meat in between. for 50 years.... brutally unprofessional and appallingly uncreative.
He is so underrated one of rocks greatest singers nobody sequels like him and Rob Halford !
Way way underrated is Ian Gillan. Best. All time. He was friends with Ronnie James and still Plant, i guess. Keeps his vocals up and adam is why he kicks ass
Ray Gillen sang this song the best of all Black Sabbath vocalists. This song is a voice killer for the great Ian Gillan.
Dio sang this song best than Ray Guillen. Dio version of 1982 live evil.
Saw the in Montreal that night...We got soooo wasted,coke,hashish and Canadian beers at 6% ..What a night to forget or remember.
6% beer,canadians are so tough..........
Saw them in February '84...Ian blew it away. Scared the hell out of me!!
Was that at San Francisco cow palace ? I regret to this day not trying harder to go . I saw ozzy in March of 84 weeks before my 12th birthday & then saw van Halen in May of 84 at the cow palace . All those concerts were so close together I know sabbath came before them I think in February . Born again to me is legendary album & time for sabbath .
Im a huge sabbath fan & intimately familiar with everything they've ever done, & I can say without reservation that Born Again is the most unique & dark album they've ever made.
Ian's vocals are incomparable & unmatched.
Ive yet to hear anyone try to cover anything off Born Again, & theres a very good reason for that..... NO ONE can!
Not even sabbath played Trashed live! Possibly the hardest song to sing in the catalogue. And that's saying something!
Cannibal Corpse covered “Zero the Hero”
@@joselathario Ya thats the ONLY track on the record that doesn't have any of those monstrous waling screams.I should have said thats the only track you could even attempt to sing, unless you are going to just cut out all the screams.
I was there. Thanks for posting this!
I like this raw Version of the song. Well done, Deep Sabbath
Very cool. Thank you for the upload. Ozzy Sabbath is my favorite, but I really did (and still do) like "Born Again" and Gillan is 1 of my all-time faves.
Surely I'm not the only one here that has read Tony's autobiography IronMan where he mentions that Ian had just had nodes removed from his vocal folds before joining Sabbath. He was told by the doctors that he had to take at least a year off to truly rehab but went back a mere four months after surgery. That is the real reason why he didn't sound very good. I saw the born again when they came out here & luckily, he sounded okay. It must've been an early show on the leg of the tour.
Wow that's news to me
I always liked his take on sabbath
And listening to iommi play smoke on the water too! Lol
That scream fallsetto rasp is insane on disturbing the priest
born again was amazing
Tony's guitar was a roto grind crunch , one of the sickest guitar sounds ever recorded!
This is the only Black Sabbath song IG had a little trouble with but it still sounds decent. Everything else he sang was fucking awesome!! Pretty good audio dude. Thanks for posting it!
I was there second row,i remember it being in Nov. or Dec! My and my cousin Ronnie(RIP). Good times in deed!
thnx for this
Always the greats, deep purple,rainbow,Black Sabbath, course Ian Gillian band , anymore bands !😎
best singer Sabbath ever had...just because none could ever surpass Ian Gillan...
lol. stop
Agreed. Gillan is the best
Reading some of these comments are hysterical. Imagine if Dio or Ozzy tried to do this or that? These singers are all fantastic, but even if you are a devoted Gillian fan just admit to yourself that RJ Dio is the best that ever existed. The battle for second place is up for grabs. Not just in Sabbath, but in the universe.
this is amazing---thank you for this--i love DIO and i love GILLAN--thanks to you now ive heard both!!!---is it just me but is this truely better music than metal these days--dont get me wrong,i love some heavy .brutal metal,but,this is pure feel good love life music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BIG smiles here
Awesome !!!!
Awesome!
26.1.1984
Much better sound quality then a previous version that's on youtube.
The oddest,greatest,and a most memorable concert of my life. Kinda like when Dylan went electric the crowd was divided but somewhat shocked. Remember?
AWESOME
no one can do this song like RONNIE JAMES DIO
+David Rubio Eeehhh....Ray Gillen maybe !!! listen to Ray sing the Sabbath stuff...(r.i.p. Ray Gillen)
Nope...Ray was lighter. Of course Ray was a terrific,talented, incredible singer.
Yet ...NO ONE CAN DO THIS SONG LIKE RONNIE JAMES DIO.
Fact !
Does it matter? Ian was still awsome and did most songs justice on the tour.
Yes, I agree. But Tony Martin did a good work. It's Dio is 10, Tony is 9,0 and Ray Gillen, 9,2. Hughes maybe 9, too.
dio sings great but his voice is forever that stereotypical over the top show off metal voice i cant be the only one that sees this
Interesting story, bro! thanx
I won't lie, I would sell a family member into slavery to be able to go back in time and see this line-up of Sabbath live in concert! This SMOKES!!
Randall Brooks I saw the show in Portland, Maine, it was so loud people were passing out from the volume, no lie! A wild one.
So would I, but I'd first go back a couple of years and tell Ian how to look after his voice...
I have...don't knock it until you've tried it...
I saw it, it was decent..
Ian Gillan is bad ass! love the Born Again album.
yes!
i was at this show!
I went to this show
Neon knights na voz de Ian gillan e´ demais para o meu pobre coraçao. EXCELENTE,
Ele interpretou bem a música. Mas Ronnie James Dio é bem melhor.
@@andersonmoreira5248 ele não estava passando por uma fase muito boa, tendo feito cirurgia nas cordas vocais recentemente, e dissolvido a banda Gillan por este motivo. Ele deveria ter ficado mais tempo descansando, mas rapidamente já estava envolvido com o Black Sabbath.
Ian Gillan!!
excejjent a!!!!!
Gillan Blackmore
Gillan Iommy
The Result is KILLER, Great Songs
ian gillan said in a interview black sabbath owed him alot of money
I think this album was vocally challenging to Ian at a time when he was living an abusive RnR life . Pushing 40 this wouldn't have been a problem in the 70s . It could have definitely been a RnR album for the ages ✌
Gillian perfect fit!
Not to knock your vid but I don't think Ian was his best on this song that night. There is another audio of him doing Neon Knights in I believe Dayton, Ohio right at the end of the tour that sounds really good. But I still luv this vid/aud! Brings back alot of memories. Thanks for posting!
Purple Sabbath was amazing
Oh yes it is. :)
HEAVIEST DARKEST MOST POWERFUL METAL ALBUM EVER !!!!
Disturbing the Priest is the heaviest most sinister tune Sabbath ever did.
killer
Years?? He was not in Sabbath for even a year was he? The only time I ever saw Black Sabbath in concert was with Gillan and he screamed like a banshee so you might have a point. It was like he was sending out vocal daggers into the audience. He was amazing. I'm going to check out "Mr. Universe" as I am still unfamiliar with his solo recordings. "Child in Time" from Made In Japan" is one of my fav vocal performances of ANY singer. Good thing Arthur Brown was there to influence singers to scream.
deathmetaldouglas69 try child in time off Ian Gillan band child in time album its a bit funky but better in my opinion
Gillan is GOD!
i never knew Gillian sang this !
no doubt--anyone who can sing the part of Jesus, and then front a band called Black Sabbath has my vote!
Dio was amazing, Ozzy was amazing, and old Ian was amazing.
E' demais para o meu pobre coraçao. Simplesmente MARAVILHOSO.
Ian Gillan for me is the greatest rock singer there has ever been he was brilliant at Sab listen Reading fest but he doesnt do Dio but then Dio sucked at Ozzy songs
+NightShooter I saw them at the Reading Festival and they were terrible, Ian had voice problems that needed surgery and it showed, three years earlier Gillan smoked Reading, I was there for that one too, and Ians voice was superb.
Stephen, nice to hear from someone who was actually there. I still have the review from the Reading Festival that was featured in Kerrang magazine that year, which said Sabbath were awful! And from the bootlegs I've gotten over the years, I could pretty much agree. From what I gather, they didn't do any songs from the Dio era, and even worse, broke out Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water" (which for some odd reason, people seem now to think was cool and don't realize that a LOT of Sabbath fans were pissed at them for doing that back then).
But I do like this performance of "Neon Knights"! Cheers!
I was there too, at Reading in 1983 and didn't find the gig that bad. In fact, I thought Gillan did a wonderful job with the Ozzy era songs. It is true that Sabbath doing Smoke On The Water was a bit of a low that evening. I myself found it silly and I remember Iommi's body language and facial expression suggesting it didn't sit quite well with him either.
I started listening to Black Sabbath because of the Heaven & Hell album. Didn't know Ozzy was the singer in Sabbath until I started sourcing their earlier stuff and realized it wasn't Dio. I tried to listen to the original songs with Ozzy but I couldn't. He's such a terrible singer compared to Dio. I went right back to Dio and that's all I'll listen to even on the original stuff. No Ozzy for me.
@@JimmyRJump It was apparently Tony's suggestion to do the song. I don't have a problem with it, but then again I wasn't there.
But yeah, I agree Ian did a great job with the Ozzy songs. Paranoid on a good night in 83 is one of my favourite versions of the song (Worcester!)
The Dio stuff is much, much harder to sing. Bear in mind, they also didn't play Trashed - possibly the hardest song in the entire Sabbath catalogue. Never performed live by Sabbath, as far as I know. When Ian revived it for a solo album of old songs he moved the key wayyyy down but still didn't do it on the resulting tour!
yeahah Gillan is the father of the Heavy Metal !!!!!!!!!!!!!
GIllan's voice was baked by the end of this tour. I caught them in Toledo towards the end and it was not too good, really. IG actually sounded good on Neon Knights, which they opened with. He calmed it down and almost spoke it, with that hard enunciation he sometimes uses at the end of a verse. They followed with Hot Line and it was rough. He did well on certain tunes. Tunes like Rock And Roll Doctor and a couple of others, but for the most part, he was pretty hoarse. They were also exceedingly loud, almost painful and ended blowing a circuit in the sound system and everything came to a screeching halt, with IG coming out and tapping on the mic until they got things back on track. Gillan was good, as usual, with his between song banter. I certainly don't regret going, but I wish that I would have seen them in the beginning before Gillan blew his voice out. Bad decision to come back before his voice totally healed and the constant screaming did too much damage for him to ever get his voice back in fairly decent shape. Too bad.
Must've had a lot of resiliency , because DP's Perfect Strangers is amazing, as well as his vocals on it!
I was at this show too. Crazy when the power went out and one if the loudest shows I’ve ever been to. Weird pairing with Night Ranger opening up the show. Great to see Brad Gillis play. 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@@hazor777 Yeah, it's not like he couldn't sing afterwards, but it was never the same. Perfect Strangers has some difficult to sing songs on it (although not compared to Born Again!) and he soars, but just comparing his vocals early on in the Sabbath tour with even the best (early on) in the PS tour, it's kind of sad. Child In Time would never be the same. To be fair, he's already done some damage before that - took the 'rock and roll' thing a bit too literally and never bothered to look after it. But before and after the Born Again tour was when it was never the same again.
He did recover up to a point in the late 90s, but we're not talking Born Again studio levels. He was just mostly singing well, but was older.
Also, why the chose to open the show with this instead of Children Of The Grave is a mystery. That song was pretty cool with Gillan, whereas Neon Knights was never going to sound right even if his voice was healthy.
who would have thought that ian gilland would do an album with sabbath
Gillan the Best
I think so too, he did A LOT of screaming too, he wasn't quite the same after.
@bo7341 I not think that Dio in 1957 to sing hard rock or heavy metal Ian Gillan started to sing these genres before that Dio
Gillan is a brilliant singer and the stuff he wrote with Sabbath wasn't bad, but he just couldn't do the older material, just doesn't suit his vocal style.
I strongly disagree. I happen to think the version of "Black Sabbath" on the Worcester bootleg is the best version done of the song... vocally, that is. I also think Ian did a top notch job on Heaven and Hell, Children of the Grave, Paranoid. Then again, I didn't go in expecting Ozzy or Dio.
I was a hardcore Ozzy fan but once I heard Dio and Gilan sing them, especially Gilan it was all over. Also, Gilan had throat surgery. If he was in his prime singing for Sabbath there would be no competition. His version of Black Sabbath and Iron Man are the best ever.
They should've done some material from Sabbath,Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage imagine if Gillan tackled SBS or The Thrill of It All or The Writ for example...
Born Again The LAST GREAT Sabbath album
I like 13 tho
I like it too....LIKE
A funny tidbit from Ian's book... he said he couldn't remember any of Ronnie's words so he had them written on stage. Worked fine until the fog machine kicked in.
as a sabbath fan ill say dio def was made for this song- now i think IAN gillan was great on born again- def tough on him to do this song and few other sabbath tunes- but in fairness he was told to take time off and get his throat treated prior to this tour with sabbath but decided to just go on with the shows. so he wasnt in full capacity. live. plus he was a bit out of his deep purple element but exactly a yr later when he rejoined purple.to make perfect strangers album. he was great sounding and that album was awesome. SABBATH RULE
This is actually pretty damn good.
@OVERKILLSLAYER95 Gillan joined Deep Purple in 1970 and Dio's band, ELF, opened for them around that time so I think it's hard to say either of them influenced each other, well that and they sing differently
Ouch!!!
i liked gillan better when he was in zepplin
LOL, Plant sucks
I am a fan of Gillian and Dio .
I was at this show.....and let me say that this is not fair to judge Ian because this was towards the end of the tour and his voice was strained yes it was but that happens to every singer in this genre of course...if you want a better example of this tour i recommend Worcester FM broadcast from a bit earlier in the tour
It's Ian Gillan. What can I say
One of the most-potential, best-results combos in rock (Sabbath and Gillan). The studio album is great, 'Disturbing the priest and 'trashed' are awesome songs while "Born Again" is a masterpiece. On stage it worked great too...despite some old BS songs were not for Gillan (like this one) he demostrated he could equal or even surpass his predecessors on some others...the only minor point was the drummer imo...
Its Gillan he does what he does and at this time he was having a few issues so by the time you got him live hes messing with vocal styles. IF THEY WOULD MIX THE BORN AGAIN ALBUM THEN YOU WOULD SEE WHAT IT SHOULD BE LIKE!!!
Dio, baby.
@SnakeRambo Ok true but that was more of a duet rather than Dio being a lead singer for the band. It was kinda a one night stand if you catch my drift.
When I saw this tour in Toronto, the only Dio song they attempted was Heaven and Hell, and I think Children of the Sea. For very obvious reasons....Love Gillan, but he just couldn't do RJD. Quiet Riot opened, my first Metal concert!
I loved the Born Again album, and Gillan in Sabbath, ... and my favorite Sabbath lineup is "Geezer and the Three Italians", but it's clear that Gillan didn't really get the Dio material. He was a bit better with the Ozzy era stuff, but that's because the lyrics and melodies were easier to remember than things like "Neon Knights" and "Heaven and Hell".
I really have to believe Ian's explanation that his biggest problem in Sabbath was that he couldn't get the lyrics to stick in his head. It's a good bet he wasn't listening to Black Sabbath before he got trashed and accidentally joined the band.
So, maybe you have got a better sounding version of Neon Knights with Gillan?
Interesting to listen to, but not excellent. I think Gillan could have done 'Die Young' or 'Children of the Sea' or something else off 'H&H' better than this. I actually like his rendition of 'Heaven & Hell'. The Worcester gig is excellent, and Ian does a great job on 'Heaven & Hell' there. Personally I would love to have heard 'Voodoo' or 'Country Girl' in favour of this during the 'Born Again' tour. Much more in Gillan's "comfort zone" vocally I think. I think Iommi gave Gillan free access to choose some songs for the tour setlist. I know 'The Wizard' was rehearsed by dropped for some reason, 'Tommorrow's Dream' was rehearsed as well, and rumoured to have been played once, but I doubt it. 'Rock N Roll Doctor' and 'Supernaut' was chosen by Gillan as well.
Those boys played angry,Toni n Ian leveled me,old hardliners just cranking........Distubing the priest.Nothing heaverer
He was in Deep Purple dude
Obviously Gillan was the best singer to ever be in Sabbath, they just didn't fit very well together. The Born Again album is fantastic though, despite the horrible mix.
Gillan is a good singer. The problem is Gillen pushed way too hard on the album and couldn't replicate it consistently on the tours. He butchered lyrics in almost every bootleg out there. Gillan himself said he was the worst singer in Sabbath history. So i truly hope you were being sarcastic by putting the "Obviously" in there. LOL.
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No, I wasn't being sarcastic. He didn't fit with Sabbath, true enough, but as a singer he was the best to ever be in the band. Just not the best FOR this band.
+Martsapso21 tomatoe tomato, everyone has their preferences. I'd love to see a sing off between Gillan/Martin though.
Huh? Are you forgetting about Dio, Ray Gillen and Tony Martin? All of those are better singers than Ian Gillan.
Holdington
No they aren't.
Some things in life should be left well enough alone. Namely, any music recorded by Ronnie James Dio.
The Born Again Album was ahead of its time with the grunge sound pure genius.
@bo7341 Doubt Dio could sing Born Again as beautifully as Gillan did. I'm not trying to say one is better though. They're both wonderful and soulfull. And Ozzy was in his own way too.
Bev Bevan on drums...??
@aocidicoa sure Gillan has a higher range but Dio sang with his soul in a way nobody else has or will be able to, every sabbath singer was awesome in their own way
Zero the Hero
@adolfknievel Dio never sang Gillan songs(thank god).
No no no
This isn’t cutting the cheese !
This is Dio’s track .
5:02 "get a new hairdo man"
He sounds tired... 😮
Sounds like Gillan singing a Dio-era Sabbath tune... he does his own thing, and a good job.
@OVERKILLSLAYER95 Gillan couldn't have had an influence on Dio, Dio performed starting in 1957 and Gillan started in 1962 but again I think they're both awesome and don't mean that as a knock on Gillan
@bracadeira Im sorry too guy but judgment needs no understanding. I think Ian crushes DIO from vocal range, to melody structure to lyrics. And all you gotta do is just deal with it.
@bo7341 Gilan same sing with the soul he have son influnce to Dio
Well yeah, Gillan seems to struggle big time on this one. Alas, I guess the same could be said about Dio if he tried to sing "Trashed" or any other song off the "Born Again" album...
Why would you doubt it? Ronnie James Dio was truly a superb vocalist, but a banshee screamer ala Halford or Gillan he certainly was not. So, there would've been no way for him to replicate those high pitched falsettos Gillan pulled off all over the "Born Again" album (or any other album in Gillan's prime, for that matter). Take for example Aerosmith's "Dream On" cover that Dio recorded with Yngwie Malmsteen: during the final part of the song, when Steven Tyler originally yelled "Dream On" time and again, Dio simply chose to avoid those screams. It just wasn't a part of his vast technique.
Dio's secret is all about clever breathing - he played Trumpet early in life and he attributed his technique to that. That's how he still sounded astonishing as he got older. when he had Stomach cancer, he just sounded slightly hoarse! Incredible.
But Trashed doesn't let the singer breathe at all - that's why it's never been performed live - not even by Gillan! Also why he changed the key completely when he rerecorded it.
@bracadeira You are comparing Dio to Gillan well past his prime. Love Dio but he could never sing songs like Child in Time, Place in Line and many others....