Thanks Paul and bald German guy, these videos really help out when trying choose a power supply. The Cioks Stuff is super well built, its clear Paul really cares about his products.
The question is - where can we buy the new DC10 bracket (with the metal brace)? I have the PT Pro and it also needs the brace to fill the gap between the pedaltrain and the power supply ...
+Neil Jordan Yes, he's not the fastest eMailer.... eMail communication with him isn't great.... I wish I could tell you, but I don't know where to get the bracket.... sorry.
I finally figured out how to do it, but of course in so doing I busted one of the two 4.8mm x 25.5mm rivets from the PT-Kit. So now I am ordering the 4 feet pack! I needed the extra two feet (and now three rivets) also though, and only $20 AUD for the 4 feet kit ( cioks.com/products/rubber-feet-2-sets - larger/25mm kit). And to buy the rivets and feet separately wouldhave cost the same or more because it's so hard to buy 1-4x pieces of each alone. Anyway, for the rivets, you need a 5mm metal drill piece and a center punch. Mark with pen exactly where you want the new feet to go - make sure it's got enough space that it isn't touching the existing PT feet and not hanging over the ends of the PT bars that the feet are attached to (make sure its in the center of the bar). Carefully drill a 5mm hole, after perhaps counter sinking a little with a slightly larger drill piece size (not required though). My mistake was trying to rivet through a 4mm hole.. The hole way this works is that you MUST be able to position the rivet, THROUGH the drilled hole. Or it breaks/doesn't work like the first did for me. Before anything, test the hole by seeing if the larger/thicker end of the rivet will go through the hole you drilled. If it does, you're set to gun! Get your rivet gun, possibly lubricate it in case worried might catch. Insert rivet into appropriate size slot/gripper, which you then insert into the rivet gun mouth. \Align the foot with the hole you have drilled (5mm!!), push the rivet down through the foot and pushing a few mm's into the inside of the PT, through your drill hole. With strong pressure, push the handle of the rivet gun 2-4x approximately, and it should 'pop' the metal rod out of the rivet. The rivet should have expanded against the inside of the PT hole, securing the foot in place. You don't need any washer or anything, just make sure the rivet is fully through the foot and inside of the PT aluminium before you rivet it. I wasted one of the two rivets from the PT-Kit pack by trying to force a rivet through a 4mm drill hole.. if only I'd seen it was a 5mm. I only found the reference to 5mm I think on CIOKS DC10 underneath Pedaltrain or CIOKS CIOKOLATE - Attaching to a Pedaltrain board pdf files, in one small section (which I should have re-read before trying to fit a 4.8mm rivet through a 4mm hole, LOL! So I found out I should have bought the 4 rubber foot pack (which includes rivets) instead of the PT-Kit, not sure if will need any of the screws from the PT-Kit either, since I bought the MB16L Cioks Ciokolate replacement/updated mounting bracket, which also came with a bunch of screws to mount to PT. Anyway hope that helps, I don't have much in the way of video camera/webcam so it's hard for me to film but hopefully this comment will help you. It was way easier than I thought it would be, but just make sure the hole is big enough / 5mm so that the rivet can fit through it snuggly.. BEFORE using the rivet gun xD
Thank you for the video! Got some questions: Would also be possible (for the old pedaltrain) To mount the DC10 more to the left so the left hole is for it's own power supply, so you can use the right one as an 'entrance' for the supplies of your effects on the top of the train? And is the mounting kit included with the DC10 for the old pedaltrain? Or are there additional parts to be bought?
Mounting Ciokolate to PT2 'new' has been a very confusing process!! I have to go check now but I don't think I have those 'risers' with my Ciokolate, and definitely the 'old' original mounting bracket. As shown here: www.guitareffectspedals.com/CIOKS%20CIOKOLATE%20-%20Attaching%20to%20a%20Pedaltrain%20board.pdf . Do I need to buy another updated bracket to get the risers and extra holes??
For anyone seeing this, the mounting bracket kits for the Cioks Ciokolate come with risers etc - ended up I didn't need the PT-Kit though, I needed the 4 rubber feet kit, which includes rivets and feet. All the screws you need for the bracket / mounting to PT comes with the updated bracket.
I wish this showed how to actually put the feet in. How to use the rivet gun. I don't feel comfortable doing it without practice. So to practice I am searching for more 4.8mm x 25.5mm rivets in case I break one. I wish someone would do a video on adding the feet with a rivet gun. Also wouldn't you use the washers under the new feet?
Figured it out but mangled a rivet in the process - key is 5MM for the feet, **4MM** for the PZ-2 bit screws. 4.5/5mm is too big for mounting bracket screws so can mess your board. For rivets, need to make sure the rivet fits all the way through the drilled hole and the foot - was easy once I did that. Messed up and thought it was 4mm for the feet hole - so mangled a rivet trying to fit a 4.8mm rivet through a 4mm hole somehow. Just didn't know how to do the rivet basics, so a simple video for that would be cool if possible
Need to make an “AC Brick” like this that has four 12V AC 800ma isolated power sections. That way people could choose whatever cioks unit they need for their DC power needs and link the “AC Brick” to it.
EytschPi42 Sure but im not good with this kind of things. Im waiting for Thomann response. If they havent got the new bracket i will have to ask for another brand. Ty anyway.
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Thanks Paul and bald German guy, these videos really help out when trying choose a power supply. The Cioks Stuff is super well built, its clear Paul really cares about his products.
Where can I buy the new bracket??
Hi guys ! Was wondering if it’s possible to link dc5 (link) with dc10 link ?
Thanx for answering!
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Great video as always, is it possible to mount the Cioks Schizophrenic also like that ?
Thanks
I think it fits in between the rails... no... wait... I don't know... Poul???
The question is - where can we buy the new DC10 bracket (with the metal brace)? I have the PT Pro and it also needs the brace to fill the gap between the pedaltrain and the power supply ...
+Nikki Nik You should write to Poul at Cioks... he can tell you!
+EytschPi42 Thing is, he never replies. I've tried several times.
+Neil Jordan Yes, he's not the fastest eMailer.... eMail communication with him isn't great.... I wish I could tell you, but I don't know where to get the bracket.... sorry.
He always replied within two days
Try contact form on website or skype
Thank you Paul and Happy Bald man, this helped me set mine up
you didnt show how to mount the feet :-(
You're going to install the feet next to the original feet using a hand riveter.
And a video showing this is... where?
I finally figured out how to do it, but of course in so doing I busted one of the two 4.8mm x 25.5mm rivets from the PT-Kit. So now I am ordering the 4 feet pack! I needed the extra two feet (and now three rivets) also though, and only $20 AUD for the 4 feet kit ( cioks.com/products/rubber-feet-2-sets - larger/25mm kit). And to buy the rivets and feet separately wouldhave cost the same or more because it's so hard to buy 1-4x pieces of each alone.
Anyway, for the rivets, you need a 5mm metal drill piece and a center punch. Mark with pen exactly where you want the new feet to go - make sure it's got enough space that it isn't touching the existing PT feet and not hanging over the ends of the PT bars that the feet are attached to (make sure its in the center of the bar). Carefully drill a 5mm hole, after perhaps counter sinking a little with a slightly larger drill piece size (not required though). My mistake was trying to rivet through a 4mm hole..
The hole way this works is that you MUST be able to position the rivet, THROUGH the drilled hole. Or it breaks/doesn't work like the first did for me.
Before anything, test the hole by seeing if the larger/thicker end of the rivet will go through the hole you drilled. If it does, you're set to gun! Get your rivet gun, possibly lubricate it in case worried might catch. Insert rivet into appropriate size slot/gripper, which you then insert into the rivet gun mouth.
\Align the foot with the hole you have drilled (5mm!!), push the rivet down through the foot and pushing a few mm's into the inside of the PT, through your drill hole. With strong pressure, push the handle of the rivet gun 2-4x approximately, and it should 'pop' the metal rod out of the rivet. The rivet should have expanded against the inside of the PT hole, securing the foot in place. You don't need any washer or anything, just make sure the rivet is fully through the foot and inside of the PT aluminium before you rivet it. I wasted one of the two rivets from the PT-Kit pack by trying to force a rivet through a 4mm drill hole.. if only I'd seen it was a 5mm.
I only found the reference to 5mm I think on CIOKS DC10 underneath Pedaltrain or CIOKS CIOKOLATE - Attaching to a Pedaltrain board pdf files, in one small section (which I should have re-read before trying to fit a 4.8mm rivet through a 4mm hole, LOL!
So I found out I should have bought the 4 rubber foot pack (which includes rivets) instead of the PT-Kit, not sure if will need any of the screws from the PT-Kit either, since I bought the MB16L Cioks Ciokolate replacement/updated mounting bracket, which also came with a bunch of screws to mount to PT.
Anyway hope that helps, I don't have much in the way of video camera/webcam so it's hard for me to film but hopefully this comment will help you. It was way easier than I thought it would be, but just make sure the hole is big enough / 5mm so that the rivet can fit through it snuggly.. BEFORE using the rivet gun xD
Thank you for the video!
Got some questions:
Would also be possible (for the old pedaltrain) To mount the DC10 more to the left so the left hole is for it's own power supply, so you can use the right one as an 'entrance' for the supplies of your effects on the top of the train?
And is the mounting kit included with the DC10 for the old pedaltrain? Or are there additional parts to be bought?
Mounting Ciokolate to PT2 'new' has been a very confusing process!!
I have to go check now but I don't think I have those 'risers' with my Ciokolate, and definitely the 'old' original mounting bracket. As shown here: www.guitareffectspedals.com/CIOKS%20CIOKOLATE%20-%20Attaching%20to%20a%20Pedaltrain%20board.pdf . Do I need to buy another updated bracket to get the risers and extra holes??
For anyone seeing this, the mounting bracket kits for the Cioks Ciokolate come with risers etc - ended up I didn't need the PT-Kit though, I needed the 4 rubber feet kit, which includes rivets and feet. All the screws you need for the bracket / mounting to PT comes with the updated bracket.
I wish this showed how to actually put the feet in. How to use the rivet gun. I don't feel comfortable doing it without practice. So to practice I am searching for more 4.8mm x 25.5mm rivets in case I break one. I wish someone would do a video on adding the feet with a rivet gun. Also wouldn't you use the washers under the new feet?
Figured it out but mangled a rivet in the process - key is 5MM for the feet, **4MM** for the PZ-2 bit screws. 4.5/5mm is too big for mounting bracket screws so can mess your board. For rivets, need to make sure the rivet fits all the way through the drilled hole and the foot - was easy once I did that. Messed up and thought it was 4mm for the feet hole - so mangled a rivet trying to fit a 4.8mm rivet through a 4mm hole somehow. Just didn't know how to do the rivet basics, so a simple video for that would be cool if possible
You absolutely rock, man!
Very entertaining, especially the 1.2mm! :-)
Need to make an “AC Brick” like this that has four 12V AC 800ma isolated power sections. That way people could choose whatever cioks unit they need for their DC power needs and link the “AC Brick” to it.
What about Pedaltrain nova 32 and Cioks DC10? You cant do the same. What a pitty, Ill need another power supply
it should work without a problem.
watch the next video in this series where we mount the Pussy power under nova 24
+EytschPi42 ciock w/ old bracket + nova 32? really? lets see how to do it
+Nicolas Mc Loughlin nee bracket would be better, but you can do it with the old one. I have done that as well...
EytschPi42 Sure but im not good with this kind of things. Im waiting for Thomann response. If they havent got the new bracket i will have to ask for another brand. Ty anyway.
I just use velcro, easy..though not as smart as screwed. but it works
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