Hey George, this is the Darryl that sent you the email. Wow, thank you so much! That was super kind of you to make this video in response. That was right on the money of what I was needing to know. I'll likely get a pair of both the SQ Lab and the PI bibs given your comments and William's comment. FYI the saddle I mention, the 60X, is a brand new one from SQ Lab. It uses a new material from BASF and is apparently really comfortable. I've only just received it yesterday and haven't had a chance to try it out yet. If it doesn't work for me, I'll try your go to 612 next. I currently use a Brooks B17 saddle which has a niche market. It's comfortable but in time it tends to sag like a hammock and then the nether regions suffer over long distance. I'm super impressed with the detail of your endurance rides. And here I thought that 1000km ride would be an accomplishment. Sounds like it'd be a warm up ride to you. I really enjoy your channel. I see I'm not a subscriber (thought I was!) so expect that number to go up 1 closer to 2000 right after I post this comment. Thanks so much for the content, and any and all endurance related vids will be graciously consumed.
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Been subscribed for a while. Keep up the great work, the authenticity is inspiring. The audience will come. No pressure, but if in time you might consider another question from the proverbial peanut gallery: As a relative newbie (2 years of road cycling), it is hard to say that I fit the bike or that I might want/need to adjust the bike as I learn and ride further and more frequently. Are there brands or things to consider avoiding when purchasing a new/used bike and for maximizing the potential of "bike fitting"? It seems that some brands with proprietary parts might be expensive to replace, or even impossible to adjust (e.g., a front fork having been cut to fit a previous owner might no longer be available, a unique seat post...) and even with an experienced local bike shop professional like yourself helping us along, there still can be changes needed in time.
@@stuffgps Thank you for your kind words! Your questions are an excellent topic to discuss on my channel. I will work something up for you and other viewers that may have the same concerns. Thanks for watching!!
@@stuffgps Thank you for the kind words! I just shot a video with your questions in mind. If you have notifications turned you should see it soon. If you would like for me to address more items than I did in this video I will be happy to do so just give me a list 🙂
You’re right on with your bib recommendations. I have both the SQlab bibs ( all their various thickness bibs) and the Pearl Izumi w/ levitate air pads. When I first received the Sqlabs bib , I thought, … no way. On using them , it quickly became obvious that all the extra padding of other bibs was just getting in the way. I find the SQlab bibs extremely supportive. On the other hand. , the new PI bib with the levitate air pad is exquisite. The bib is the best I’ve had by far( and I’ve tried them all). You don’t even feel the bib short when it’s on. However , given that the two have somewhat different philosophies, I’d be hard pressed to chose a favorite. The deciding factor for me is the differences with the material used…. SQlab bib material… not very inspiring…. the PI bib material…. utter luxury! Like George says… you do you! Bibs are as different for different backsides as saddles are.
Hello William! I honestly can’t believe how much Pearl Izumi has raised their game. The materials… the Chamois… the colors - just wonderful bibs! I love the SQ Lab bibs as well. Thanks for watching!!
Just bought a pair of SQ lab bibshorts. When I first tried them on I thought they were small but although a tight fit , they are very comfortable. So far I really like the feel of them .
I don't have the budget for those bib shorts.I am thinking of buying the castelli endurance 3 bib shorts. What do you think of that choice? Do you have test these?
The endurance bibs are great for the money and the pad is the same as their highest end premio the progetto X2(my favourite pad on the market) you really have to try them on in a shop though as their sizing is extremely "race svelte".
My thought is that the padding in most shorts is way too much. I believe the padding pushes up against the prostate and perineal area causing pressure, despite a cutout or pressure relief zone such as the SQLabs or BiSaddle saddles. I use a BiSaddle SRT 2.0. Great saddle yet still I have these issues. I have prostate enlargement. Are there any shorts that have thin padding and a prostate AND perineal cutout. I think you really only need some padding at the ischial tuberosities and virtually nothing at the perineum. What are your thoughts?
I have 2 pair of SQ Lab bibs. They have minimal padding. They work great with my leather saddles since you don’t need much. I don’t know how they make their bibs now. I would look into tri shorts they are known for minimal padding.
I posted the links in the description did you look there first? But in general this is a moment in time video. Models and designs keep changing year over year, unfortunately
@@SeeYouUpTheRoadI see many different types of Assos on the website provided and 3 Pearl Izumis on the website. Also I see 3 videos on Pearl Izumis but I’ll have to watch those tomorrow.
I've never tried Assos bibs. My favorite bibs so far are Velocio. They fit my long torso'd body so nicely with a high level of compression. I wonder if their clothing is geared towards torso-centric cyclists :). I've recently purchased two Pearl Izumi bibs, I believe they are the Levitate ones, and I find myself searching and reaching for these to wear over and over. They feel less compressive than Velocio but other than that they are SO comfortable. I haven't noticed a long-torso issue with these either, maybe something to do with how the straps fasten together in the front? And as you've mentioned several times the incredible value of the Pearl Izumi bibs. They cost significantly less than Velocio. Right now I only have 2 pair of the Pearl Izumi bibs but will be adding more in the not-too-distant future. They rock and I can afford them too ha ha
We can get you some Assos to try out. I will need to confirm if the PI bibs you have are Levitate Chamois equipped. Also the Velocio brand was purchased by SRAM. Hopefully they will be available for purchase through SRAM soon enough for you.
Definitely true. I have a selle Italia saddle on my road bike that's about 10 years old. The cover is starting to come off a bit by the cutout, should I replace it right away, or can it wait?
@@davidadamus177if 10 years old you might have trouble finding the exact same saddle new in their line up. Saddles come and go often times they will discontinue your favorite saddle. I tell people when they find the saddle that works for them they should buy 2!
Hello George, I have Castelli and Assos bib shorts and they’re too tight for my vital assets. Do you know of anyone making bib shorts for the 100kg+ rider? The Castelli would be fine if they allowed a few more inches in the nether regions. Thanks, Laurence
Hi. What model saddle are you recommending from SQ Labs? The 612? I’ve only ridden Ergon saddles and from my bike fit I switched from the S/M size to their M/L size. I’ll have to check their measurement for my sit bone width. Since they come in sizes 12-15 I’m assuming if I can find the bike fit report it will know what my width is but does SQ labs state what size is best knowing that? Thanks
I ride a 612 Ergowave non active in a size 14. I don’t know if bike fitters measure your sit bones as SOP. When you figure it out or need my help I sell SQ Labs saddles and ship worldwide
Hey mate I got the pearl izumi pro a while back and superb bibs. Awesome chamois and I can go well over 100m in comfort. I'm looking for another pair now but at a discount of course. I've stumbled across Sugoi RS Pro 2 bibs. Have you come across them before? There's not a lot on the internet and all info is based on original pro bibs and almost a decade old. Might pull the trigger tonight so just reaching out for advice if you're around. Cheers C
No worries. There's not a lot of info on my net, but what is there is very positive, however, all seems to be the previous models. Anyway cheers for the izumi recommendation as they're spot on. Ride on 👊
Hey George, this is the Darryl that sent you the email. Wow, thank you so much! That was super kind of you to make this video in response. That was right on the money of what I was needing to know. I'll likely get a pair of both the SQ Lab and the PI bibs given your comments and William's comment. FYI the saddle I mention, the 60X, is a brand new one from SQ Lab. It uses a new material from BASF and is apparently really comfortable. I've only just received it yesterday and haven't had a chance to try it out yet. If it doesn't work for me, I'll try your go to 612 next. I currently use a Brooks B17 saddle which has a niche market. It's comfortable but in time it tends to sag like a hammock and then the nether regions suffer over long distance.
I'm super impressed with the detail of your endurance rides. And here I thought that 1000km ride would be an accomplishment. Sounds like it'd be a warm up ride to you. I really enjoy your channel. I see I'm not a subscriber (thought I was!) so expect that number to go up 1 closer to 2000 right after I post this comment. Thanks so much for the content, and any and all endurance related vids will be graciously consumed.
Like your positive energy and enthusiasm. A great channel is developing.
Thank You Thank You Thank You!
Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Been subscribed for a while. Keep up the great work, the authenticity is inspiring. The audience will come. No pressure, but if in time you might consider another question from the proverbial peanut gallery: As a relative newbie (2 years of road cycling), it is hard to say that I fit the bike or that I might want/need to adjust the bike as I learn and ride further and more frequently. Are there brands or things to consider avoiding when purchasing a new/used bike and for maximizing the potential of "bike fitting"? It seems that some brands with proprietary parts might be expensive to replace, or even impossible to adjust (e.g., a front fork having been cut to fit a previous owner might no longer be available, a unique seat post...) and even with an experienced local bike shop professional like yourself helping us along, there still can be changes needed in time.
@@stuffgps Thank you for your kind words! Your questions are an excellent topic to discuss on my channel. I will work something up for you and other viewers that may have the same concerns.
Thanks for watching!!
@@stuffgps Thank you for the kind words! I just shot a video with your questions in mind. If you have notifications turned you should see it soon. If you would like for me to address more items than I did in this video I will be happy to do so just give me a list 🙂
You’re right on with your bib recommendations. I have both the SQlab bibs ( all their various thickness bibs) and the Pearl Izumi w/ levitate air pads. When I first received the Sqlabs bib , I thought, … no way. On using them , it quickly became obvious that all the extra padding of other bibs was just getting in the way. I find the SQlab bibs extremely supportive. On the other hand. , the new PI bib with the levitate air pad is exquisite. The bib is the best I’ve had by far( and I’ve tried them all). You don’t even feel the bib short when it’s on. However , given that the two have somewhat different philosophies, I’d be hard pressed to chose a favorite. The deciding factor for me is the differences with the material used…. SQlab bib material… not very inspiring…. the PI bib material…. utter luxury! Like George says… you do you! Bibs are as different for different backsides as saddles are.
Hello William!
I honestly can’t believe how much Pearl Izumi has raised their game. The materials… the Chamois… the colors - just wonderful bibs!
I love the SQ Lab bibs as well.
Thanks for watching!!
Agreed with thick chamois horrible assos is amazing i yet to try the new pearl uzumi,pactimo is also great
Thank you Angel!
Thanks for watching!
Just bought a pair of SQ lab bibshorts. When I first tried them on I thought they were small but although a tight fit , they are very comfortable. So far I really like the feel of them .
SQ Lab know what they are doing? Do you ride and SQ Lab saddle? Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Gotta say George, I love my recommended SQ saddle.
It just works!
Thanks for watching Chris!
I’m still a SKINS customer; just bought two pairs last week. Although during my time in CO, I was a Panche fan, but I’m back now 😎
It’s good stuff! I didn’t know you could still get them in the US!
I don't have the budget for those bib shorts.I am thinking of buying the castelli endurance 3 bib shorts. What do you think of that choice? Do you have test these?
I haven’t ridden Castelli bibs in a long time. $200 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. High dollar bibs are worth every penny - save up 😊
The endurance bibs are great for the money and the pad is the same as their highest end premio the progetto X2(my favourite pad on the market) you really have to try them on in a shop though as their sizing is extremely "race svelte".
I haven’t had any of the “high end/premium” brands like rapha, maap and the like. But The Black Bibs for $40 are hard to beat.
Thanks for watching
My thought is that the padding in most shorts is way too much. I believe the padding pushes up against the prostate and perineal area causing pressure, despite a cutout or pressure relief zone such as the SQLabs or BiSaddle saddles. I use a BiSaddle SRT 2.0. Great saddle yet still I have these issues. I have prostate enlargement. Are there any shorts that have thin padding and a prostate AND perineal cutout. I think you really only need some padding at the ischial tuberosities and virtually nothing at the perineum. What are your thoughts?
I have 2 pair of SQ Lab bibs. They have minimal padding. They work great with my leather saddles since you don’t need much. I don’t know how they make their bibs now.
I would look into tri shorts they are known for minimal padding.
SQlab are masters of ergonomics, they know what they're doing.
Does the SQ Labs saddle have the same success with women that it does with men?
Yes I sell SQ Lab saddles to more women than men. Men don't come to me for help they think they can figure it out on their own lol
Hahaha thanks for the reply!
Which model of assos and pearl izumis are you referring to in the video?
I posted the links in the description did you look there first? But in general this is a moment in time video. Models and designs keep changing year over year, unfortunately
@@SeeYouUpTheRoadI see many different types of Assos on the website provided and 3 Pearl Izumis on the website. Also I see 3 videos on Pearl Izumis but I’ll have to watch those tomorrow.
I've never tried Assos bibs. My favorite bibs so far are Velocio. They fit my long torso'd body so nicely with a high level of compression. I wonder if their clothing is geared towards torso-centric cyclists :). I've recently purchased two Pearl Izumi bibs, I believe they are the Levitate ones, and I find myself searching and reaching for these to wear over and over. They feel less compressive than Velocio but other than that they are SO comfortable. I haven't noticed a long-torso issue with these either, maybe something to do with how the straps fasten together in the front? And as you've mentioned several times the incredible value of the Pearl Izumi bibs. They cost significantly less than Velocio. Right now I only have 2 pair of the Pearl Izumi bibs but will be adding more in the not-too-distant future. They rock and I can afford them too ha ha
We can get you some Assos to try out. I will need to confirm if the PI bibs you have are Levitate Chamois equipped.
Also the Velocio brand was purchased by SRAM. Hopefully they will be available for purchase through SRAM soon enough for you.
It’s nice to get a Women’s perspective on the clothing I recommend to my viewers.
Any opinion on RedWhite?
I have no idea what that is 😂
Do you get numbness from the sq lab saddle?
No not normally but keep in mind I do REALLY big rides :-) nothing is comfortable forever 😊
Definitely true. I have a selle Italia saddle on my road bike that's about 10 years old. The cover is starting to come off a bit by the cutout, should I replace it right away, or can it wait?
@@davidadamus177if 10 years old you might have trouble finding the exact same saddle new in their line up. Saddles come and go often times they will discontinue your favorite saddle. I tell people when they find the saddle that works for them they should buy 2!
Hello George, I have Castelli and Assos bib shorts and they’re too tight for my vital assets. Do you know of anyone making bib shorts for the 100kg+ rider? The Castelli would be fine if they allowed a few more inches in the nether regions. Thanks, Laurence
Sorry Lawrence I don’t know what 100kg riders wear. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
MAAP Evo Team bibs saved my butt.
There you go! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing
Hi. What model saddle are you recommending from SQ Labs? The 612? I’ve only ridden Ergon saddles and from my bike fit I switched from the S/M size to their M/L size. I’ll have to check their measurement for my sit bone width. Since they come in sizes 12-15 I’m assuming if I can find the bike fit report it will know what my width is but does SQ labs state what size is best knowing that? Thanks
I ride a 612 Ergowave non active in a size 14. I don’t know if bike fitters measure your sit bones as SOP. When you figure it out or need my help I sell SQ Labs saddles and ship worldwide
Hey mate I got the pearl izumi pro a while back and superb bibs. Awesome chamois and I can go well over 100m in comfort. I'm looking for another pair now but at a discount of course. I've stumbled across Sugoi RS Pro 2 bibs. Have you come across them before? There's not a lot on the internet and all info is based on original pro bibs and almost a decade old. Might pull the trigger tonight so just reaching out for advice if you're around. Cheers C
I don’t know anything about that bib. Good luck
No worries. There's not a lot of info on my net, but what is there is very positive, however, all seems to be the previous models. Anyway cheers for the izumi recommendation as they're spot on. Ride on 👊
7mesh bibs are the best
Actual SQlabs marketing for their shorts: "for racers who don't like diapers" 🤣👍
😂 love it!! It’s a super thin pad that works!
@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Ditto for thin pads... and seats. Fluffy thick pads will eventually compress and offer no support at all.
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Mmmm means yummy or something feels good. Hmmm is you’re thinking of something. Which is it 😂 thanks for watching please consider subscribing