Voynich Manuscript Revealed (2018)
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2018
- The Voynich Manuscript is a mysterious medieval manuscript written in the early 15th century. To date, scientists, historians, mathematicians and linguists have struggled to decipher the manuscript. However, the mystery has finally been put to rest. Ata Team Alberta (ATA) has deciphered and translated over 30% the manuscript. Currently, a formal paper of the philological study was submitted to an academic journal in John Hopkins University.
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Let me try to explain the challenge of translating 600 years old phonetic Turkic of an unknown dialect to an English speaker. Consider this famous line by Shakespeare that is about 430 years old:
Hamlet: "Get thee to a nunn'ry, why woulds't thou be a breeder of sinners?"
This famous line may not mean much to a modern English speaker but Hamlet is essentially telling Ophelia that it would be better for her to live in chastity, protected from other people, instead of becoming a breeder of sinners. Obviously, this translation and explanation required a contextual interpretation by an expert.
Now imagine English was a phonetic language - in other words, one would spell words as he/she hears them.
Imagine how an Irishman or a Scotsman would pronounce and therefore phonetically spell the same sentence "Get thee to a nunn'ry, why woulds't thou be a breeder of sinners?" quite differently than, for example, the Queen of England. And now imagine the author was indeed a Scotsman but one has to have some knowledge of how Scottish accent was like 430 years ago.
If English was a phonetic language, an English speaker would pronounce this sentence the following way, according to the Cambridge Dictionary.
Hamlet: "Get di tu eɪ nʌnəri waɪ wʊdənt daʊ bi eɪ bridər əv sɪnər”. Obviously, the spelling would be somewhat different if pronounced by a Scottish accent. Make your guess how different this sentence would sound if it was a Scottish accent 430 years ago.
Now let’s replace these characters with random symbols without further complicating it with the ancient Scottish pronunciation.
Hamlet: "Get di tu eɪ nʌnəri waɪ wʊdənt daʊ bi eɪ bridər əv sɪnər”
Now imagine all you have is the above sentence with these unknown symbols and no information about the origin of the language. Good luck working the problem backwards and forwards and using these characters try to translate this sentence into modern English.
This is exactly the reason it is almost impossible to make sense of the Voynich text if the person does not have a deep knowledge of the particular language of the era it was written. In addition, this person should also have the patience and dedication to work through an unknown, likely made-up alphabet and the starting assumption has to be that the language is of a particular origin and then test this possibility. I believe Voynich manuscript can only be deciphered by trial and error by people who have the in-depth historical knowledge of their native language and patience to work through decoding the unknown characters. And sooner or later one of them will stumble upon the correct answer. It is therefore plausible how this man might actually be the one.
J. Dryden: This is the best explanation about the work. Thank you.
Thanks for the detailed explanation that clearly shows the challenges in such works.
English IS a phonetic language - I think what becomes lost over the ages is various spellings and dialects within a specific phoneme. I found this video quite entertaining and very instructive. Additionally, aren't most Eastern languages written right to left? Is Turkic normally written left-to-right? I only ask because I know very little about Asia Minor and have always been fascinated with that part of the world...
I'd always wondered just why it had taken so long for someone to make sense of this oddity... I figured it for a hoax or some elaborate olde world troll. This explanation really makes you realize just how in depth *truly* translating something needs to be, to be accurate. Context, motivation and an understanding of the world as it was at the time are three things you are unlikely to get from an obscure manuscript like this, and those three things truly are the lenses through which this manuscripts actual origin and purpose will be focused.
Come on, everyone knows this is a book of magic spells
son: dad can i go out and play?
dad: not until you solve the manuscript
Haha. That means he'll never play
@@khaldounmnb5197
I think the letters he choosed as an example spell "help me" :))
Fuck!!
Voynich Cliff Notes?
That's some da vinci code shit right there!
Imagine the person who made the book has no clue that his creation is making people go nuts.
i get it, just like i understand the light orbs in the skies popping up all over the world right now. The higher realms be talking at it. Our life force energy in the realm is in a cycle of decay. This book shows how to fix this issue, how to tap into the life force, how to channel it, how to connect consciousness with other realms (the tubes and shoots with women inserted as if they are completing a natural connection that already exists). If we tune into our natural world, we get to channel in life force, and communicate with higher realms again. It's a nice thing to ponder on, and if you insert this way of thought, you'll see it fits quite nicely. Have a blessed new year.
@@missymoonwillow6545 can I get some of that magical herb you're smoking?
He do just be trying to share some farming tips he didnt want anyone pressed because his Turkish spelling was bad
@Susana A @Missy Moonwillow Tf yall dumb ass bitch talking about?
Tiyān Quāis Tsariťsyan Buragohain ok sorry gang
This dude be in the afterlife looking down like:
"I told you they were gonna fall for it"😂
Master Turkish book.
true
I imagine the same being with whoever wrote the bible 😂
@@urorazbojnik5678 Apparently you have no understanding of what the Bible is.
It is an ancient language called jibberish.
Deciphered the Voynich manuscript as a family project, after the father who JUST HAPPENED to be specifically a Turkish language hobbyist who's also so smart that he's an electrical engineer, decided to work together on it like a class assignment. Fucking. Amazing.
The guy literally found it in a book store, the manuscript didn't travel far away it seems.
@@Whatever-mx3bt are you sure about that? Watch woodward tv on this subject.....its a new release.
Woodward tv is a channel on u tube
Why you yelling in your photo?! Looks dumb...
If only they were correct.
Wait till someone finds old Dungeons and Dragons rulebook 700 years from now.
That's what I said about the bible
@@asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa9161 So you're a couple thousand year old child on youtube who has to edit a seven word sentence?
@@tlew1588 new testament was 1700 years ago 😜 if I'm not mistaken the group that wrote it was led by a convert named Constantine some time in the early 300 CE (AD)
@@tlew1588 let alone they didn't even get his name right or his birthday or anything. Out of probably a hundred or more Gospels that were written they screwed it up 🤣
LMAO bloody hell 😂 or Dieties and Demigods
This family is so inspiring! Taking a hobby, creating a family project and working together simply for the love of what they do. And in doing something so wonderful, they have managed to provide a solution to this manuscript that is far more advanced than anyone else got. They have literally gifted the world with a little more precious knowledge - and done so through their personal passion for this mystery.
Amen. Wholeheartedly agree
I can open any mystiry
Adele Ankiewicz
U like long ones?
Yes!
Write and ask them why none of the plants or species or 'organs' or 'astrological symbols' or astronomical records, etc match anything from EARTH? The plants are completely unlike any known species. They are making huge claims with ZERO standard oversight, lots of empty claims and 'faux academic' scene. You can't tell when you're bring lied to. _I bet you're a Trump voter!_
Why would anyone dislike this? They have been trying to decipher this for years. They went about it in a very scientific and verifiable way. I applaud their efforts.
Plot twist: The dislikes are from the quacks that made claims of decoding it, but failed or were wrong.
Because people were more obsessed about keeping this a mystery than solving it
The people who cannot translate the manual, are upset that these guys were able to do it...
Very petty to be jealous.
I think their approach is actually not very scientific. They make a lot of initial assuptions based off of the fact that it ~looks to be~ agglutanative. There are many agglutanative languages in the world, not just Turkish, and instead of applying more and more tests to find holes in their theories ~ which could only lead them closer to the truth ~ they only look for things that back their theories.
because it didn't suit their interests and maybe they made false accusations about it.
In order to give you an idea of where our work is progressing, it would be useful to provide some updates again.
Thank you for following the progress on the subject and for submitting your questions.
In 2018, we received an invitation from the Department of Turkish Language and Literature at İstinye University Istanbul/Turkey to explain our VM related study/subject in detail. We gave them very detailed information about the subject. In the end, the dean of this institution was convinced and he explained to one of the national TV channels that it was understood that the content of the VM was in Turkish.
After that, a while ago, the Department of Turkish Language and Literature at Muğla University in Turkey invited us. On November 5, 2021, I made a presentation about our VM study in there. During this study, We talked about ATA alphabet transcription. I showed some examples of words that were read. I talked about the analysis of some sentences. In the end, I was congratulated by the dean of the department for our success. They were also give me a certificate of appreciation for our work. As a result, all of this professionals are accepted about existence of old Turkish content in VM texts.
In 2021, I made a presentation to linguists in the Turkology department of Azerbaijan Baku State University. Thus, the Turcologists at this university also realized that the VM-content is Turkish. In the same year, I made another presentation to the subject experts at the Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences. The same successful results were seen here as well.
In 2022 (recently), we were invited to an international symposium by Niğde University. We were invited because the article we sent to this institution passed their scientific committee and was accepted. The article we sent here was an article we wrote jointly with Professor Mayil Askarov, professor of Azerbaijan Academy of Sciences and expert on Old Turkic language. Probably soon (most likely in the coming months) our scientific-article of our aforementioned study will be published in the proceedings of this symposium.
I also submitted an article for another international symposium that will be held in Ankara on 3-5 October. For this symposium, Prof. Dr. Mayil Askerov himself sent an article describing that the Voynich manuscript is in Turkish. Mr. Askerov mostly use of our ATA alphabet transcription in his work. After all, we were both invited to this symposium. We will go to Ankara in October, and we will explain the subject with some full page reading examples. You can see which professors and experts from which countries are in the international scientific committee of this symposium at this link.
turkkulturu.org.tr/i-uluslararasi-turk-kulturu-arastirmalari-sempozyumu/
So,
We are continuing to work on this VM related project in our free times only. Our reading works on VM is improving slowly but positively.
Our free time is very limited and we spend this time sending articles to academies rather than making youtube videos. Our main purpose in acting in this way is to increase academic awareness on the subject within the scope of Turcology.
We will publishing our studies in our web application pages which pages are currently under construction by one developer in Turkey. We are currently testing our web site with loading our unchecked raw notes to test the page to help for this developers work.
So, this web site is not officially announced yet but may be you can find some details.
You can read the main articles in fallowing pages.
In the current situation, we were able to read about 100 sentences, a few full pages. We also detected 98 VM-drawings to word overlaps. We have seen that there are many abbreviations in the content of the manuscript and that the author has given special names to some drugs and plants are among the factors that make it difficult to read. We still could not identify the dialect of the author.
Our book has been ready in Turkish for a long time, but we haven't chosen a publisher yet. I think we'll have finished this book publishing job and of this year (or may be next year). We are looking for a professional translator for the English translation of our book. I think it will take a few more years to prepare in English.
Thank you for your interest in our VM related studies.
Regards,
Ahmet Ardic
www.turkicresearch.com/files/articles/001c02b8-4f98-4717-bafe-adac0941252f_VoynichManuscriptRevealed%20OZAN%20Ingilizce%20Makale.pdf
www.turkicresearch.com
Note: From time to time, we also share some of our notes about some of the VM words and content read on the page below.
www.voynich.ninja/thread-2318-page-20.html
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This is some great news and, as a language enthusiast, I would be most delighted to see your publication once it is translated into English. I sadly do not know a speck of Turkish and it would take me years to master enough of the language to give your book a proper read. Best of luck to you! (And I do agree with the comment above that pinning this would increase visibility of it. It’s an amazing and celebratory update 🎉)
I've been following this book my entire life since I was a kid in the '80s. I'm super excited with this development! I certainly hope I'll be able to finally read it one day before I die. Hurry up guys, I'm not getting any younger. 😅
Every year on your birthday, convince yourself that you've gotten a year younger until you're as young as you feel again :D
Ils à book for gardening with plants and when To plant by the calendar
I have a old carved stone an ils man with beard ans his hand accrosshis body with one symbol like the y and thé p
I still wanna know what all those ladies bathing is about. But since it's turkic, I can already guess it's related to the famous bath houses in the region.
I am right there with you...
*"People 600 years from now are gonna have such a hard time figuring out our culture"*
All they will know for sure is that we all wear masks
@@zebulon8819 ...and will laugh at us!
They'd be overloaded by the Memes alone
@@anastasial7687 Lmao don't forget the meme templates that have no words and the ones that do have words on them they'll be like "Why did they do two different templates of the same meme?"
As a 50 year old grandmother I already have trouble deciphering the language 🙆🏻♀️🤷🏼♀️😄😀.
It’s written in some form of Elvish and we can’t read it.
-“There are few who can”
😁😆😂🤣
Need the ring to decipher haha
Too bad Elvis died, he could've helped :(
"I have no memory of this text"
So the elves wrote it
This is more progress than other people have made with this document in hundreds of years! Nice work!
ruclips.net/video/SWbYLz6yRAc/видео.html
@NauticTL well then why early scholars and zypher experts didn't even think about the idea of translate it to other language like turkish and at the end of the day they failed, for hundreds of years many people had failed to decode it
The ancients were masters at trolling the future generations...
some dude in a dungeon scribbling on a wall cca 1200~odd years ago: "tee-hee, I bet they'll never figure this one out"
Exactly! It was meant to Distract & Delay the competitions that could have stood in their way of power... just as today History can repeat itself if we let it....
@@MadMax-ye2ye Or maybe it was a very localized language.
Only god knows, stuff is so old...
@@insideimagery133 so maybe we are to forget the past for our own good?
@@MadMax-ye2ye What do you mean?
Good effort from Ahmet, it seems everybody that encounters this book grows obsessed, including myself.
I look for many years .the answer is turk language actually.
@@aswaltan8962 Its not Turkish. Yale university declined this theory. Cant you just accept truth?
@@ulfricstormcloack4066 Why did they decline it? Did they find holes in his theory?
@@robotputty yes
@@robotputty what were the holes?
I just love how it immediatly became a family thing.
609 dislikes=all the scholars who tried to decipher and failed.......
That was my thinking exactly... Haha why would you hate someone for figuring out something what is going to change history
Um. Did you watch teh video? It hasn't been figured out. Some people, again, think they've figured it out. That's all.
iggi, so true! And those that refuse to accept that it's NOT extraterrestrial or a book about magic and alchemy!
I think it would be funny if once fully interpretated that it turns out to be a young girl's fanciful dreams. No real mystery.
It looks to be a lot more than that.
Aye and all the ones who've invested so much time in watching long documentaries and believing it was alien language that still want it to be so much haha the fuckin dongalongs!
This is wonderful, the right person, with the correct knowledge, at the right time, in the right place. Thank you.
you could have just said "luck"
Whether any of this turns out being confirmed or not, I'm very appreciative that there are people out there devoting so much time to studying and decoding some of our biggest mysteries. It's cool to even hear speculation of what the book could contain.
i have one i been playn whit i feel like the code was made first by a endless knot and then the letters were draw in top of this fist shape and the stars etc are reference to sound frecuencis in a tube not astronomical
This is fantastic! I'm so happy that you're able to get to work on translating the text! I can't wait for a full translation to be a reality.
Plot twist
He ate some mushrooms and was high asf when he wrote the book
hey maybe you should take some shrooms and tap into your life force and try channeling to whoever wrote it! ha ha.
Thats how the bible was made
Brenda Ngassa I only care about the pharm. Lol
We don’t even know if the writer is a male or a female or a trans or gay or bi. Or that person’s pronouns are they/them or it LoL.
☺️
Thank you and your sons for taking your time to recognize, examine and translate the Voynich manuscript. I've seen many videos and articles about this manuscript and have always felt that someone would eventually be able to decipher it. It must have been very exciting to realize that your language was used, old Turkish. Also the fact that it was written phonetically, which makes sense if the writer was not formally educated. Exciting that you've been able to translate a full page and it made total sense and was in context to the illustrations shown.
I have an old German register that my son purchased for me, in Germany, while he was taking college courses there. I have not been able to get it translated because the few people I have asked have told me that it is written in a " dead " German language. It seems to be a census record of small villages or towns written in 1804. I couldn't even find any information or examples of old German on the internet.
I hope that you and your sons are recognized and that your work is accepted by those who, in the past, were unable to decode this manuscript. If you can interpret the whole manuscript, I would love to see that interpretation in print. It would be a link to our past that so far, no one-else has been able to produce. I would love to know what information lies within it's pages. Good luck in your endeavors! Thank you again. 😊
lizzymoore54 Check in Wikipedia "altdeutsche Schrift" there is a alphabet which was commonly used in the 17.th and 18th century in German speaking countries. Maybe this is what you are looking for de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Kurrentschrift
Saci Mata dasi , thank you so much for this information! I will most definitely check this site to see if this matches the script. I'll let you know what I find out. Thanks, once again for responding. 😊
If you need any help from a german, feel free to msg me with a sample picture.
I was barely gonna ask U if U had talked 2 anyone that speaks, knows German😂😂😂but I see U do. U can also try doing a moment on Twitter & tag reporters & newspapers, they'll get the word out 😃good luck
i would like a copy of that book, if you are comfortable with providing it... i love cryptography and languages, it'd be a boon to my hunger of mystery :D
Thank you for getting involved in this project. I have watched the various presentations over the years and have been astounded that there could be a language extant or dead that could so fully baffle all the linguistic and mathematical experts of the day. Your presentation is practical, quite reasonable, and consistent with other theories that have been put forth but without any real support. I enjoyed this video very much.
Our work on VM currently continues, although it is slowed down in 2020.
We will publishing our studies in our web application page which page is currently under construction by one developer company in Turkey. We are currently testing our web site by loading our unchecked raw notes to test the page to help for this developers work.
So, this web site is not officially announced yet but may be you can find some details about our study.
You can read some out VM related articles in fallowing pages.
Regards,
Ahmet Ardıç
www.turkicresearch.com/files/articles/001c02b8-4f98-4717-bafe-adac0941252f_VoynichManuscriptRevealed%20OZAN%20Ingilizce%20Makale.pdf
www.turkicresearch.com
ruclips.net/video/tTTRsrzndTY/видео.html
My theory is that this book was written by Italian merchant that learned Turkish to better his trading skills, when he decided to retire, he settled in northern Italy. To pass his time, he wrote the book in his modified Turkish to code his experience and discoveries from time, when he traveled.
well they have carbon dated it and by the castle illustrations (which had a type of crenelation that only existed in Italy at that time) They figured that it was most likely from Italy. So you might be on to something. At any rate there is scientific evidence backing up it was from Italy around 1420 (if im not mistaken)
Between this and the work dude is doing, I'm starting to feel optimism. It's weird.
I've spoke to a few people over time and this has been a theory that is recurrent but very unpopular. I'm glad that some people see sense in that it is highly possible and almost most likely.
But the thing is there is not a single trace of the author making a mistake. With all of those illustrations, a 6 page fold out, and over 200 pages. He must not be a ordinary merchant then
It was probably carefully reproduced from an original draft by a professional scribe in preparation to be bound. Books were expensive and rare in the early 1400s.
Thank you Canada. Very cold weather is really encourage us to work at home to solve the problem. :)
indeed ... :)
Congratulations!!! You deserve a Nobel in Literature.
It's an amazing set of circumstances your love for language and then the similarities between your native language and the Voynich manuscript amazing
Was this the work of more than author, and then compiled or copied down by one person?
good luck with it kinda a history buff and would love to see this one solved ;D !! wish i could be there to help !
I'm impressed by this highly professional "family project"! Thank you for your passion and perseverance! I look forward to more updates on this fascinating manuscript! Keep up your wonderful work!
Beautiful. And it is obvious the engineer has the eye and mind to appreciate this. He and his son's efforts are a dedication of love.
Me trying to understand my French Homework without google translate
tour de effiel paris normans france baguette... le patisserie du semen de le lord Shen an a france.
Try Hebrew without Niqqud.
Lol for me is math
Euanormous Penis Erhebe deine flagge, Franzose
The big question; When can we expect to see a complete English translation of the manuscript with all illustrations explained. The original manuscript along with the translated version and a reference guide, all in a single book, would be a “bestseller” for sure.
doubt about bestseller, i'd say bestpirated
I would like to read a book on how the father and sons came across the text and the process with which they deciphered it! That would be really cool!
There already is an English Translation. Here is a link. Now you can know all the secret knowledge from the Voynich Manuscript.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helianthus
..or were you hoping it had the recipe to make the philosopher's stone and eternal life?
@@morrighanwermarn-arnburg7333 I was
@@jackcrazy9327
Yeah I was too. In the back of my mind I always suspected it was just astrology and herbal recipes. Translating it will change it from one of the most interesting books in the world, turn it into a not very interesting book about plants and horoscopes.
definitely and by far the best explanation I have come across so far - hope you keep up the great work and get recognized (and funded) soon!
I made my own manuscript filled with nonsense but has awesome artwork. Can’t wait for the next generations to go crazy about it.
@NATJERE Studio dude that person must be bored and trippy that's why he wrote that shit and now we who are supposed to be advanced beings are dumbfounddead from this stupid shit thinking it will unlock some stargate portal LOL
did you do gold illuminations?
@NATJERE Studio well, at the time this manuscript would have been written (I believe they have carbon-dated this to the 1400s), materials for writing would have been incredibly expensive. The process for making it was costly and time consuming. I have no doubts people have loved trolling since the dawn of time but the likelihood that someone would use valuable paper to troll is really small. Not impossible but very unlikely.
@@zq5127 true, it would be very expensive to make this, but seeing how humans are i don't doubt some group of bored monks made this book
An explanation to the weird art in the books could be just the same as to why other medieval art is weird af, people drew things based by description (like exotic animals) since back then it would be very hard to get a live subject for drawings
So, it might just be a very old language/dialect, with weird description based drawings, and some ancient memes sprinkled in
that has been done , the Oera Linda Book is an example though readable its origen is uncertain and could well be a hoax from the 1800's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oera_Linda_Book
Absolutely amazing! I am dumbfounded that someone has found a way to translate this strange manuscript! The father and his two sons are very talented and display their knowledge of English quite well. I am anxiously waiting for more results from them. Thank you!
Ceeday?
Poetic
Yet Hispanics coming to the United States, looking for opportunities, don't want to speak or learn English.🙄
WHY ONLY 1443 VIEWS!? This news is HUGE MAN!!!!
Excellent work!!!
the video isn't monetized so youtube won't promote it as much
Master Wing Chun that website does not exist
I guess many don't know about the book.
It has been such an enigma for so many years.
the intellect of the masses as a whole has diminished to the point of apathy toward intellectual pursuits. Learning beyond the necessary to survive has become and art and a passion of those who still care about learning the truth of our history. Indeed the governments of the world find this very valuable as the "useful idiots" (no slight intended) are more appealing than the intelligent masses.
People just don't care, they are busy with gucci gang gucci gang
Wow, I salute the hard work of this family to decipher and translate this manuscript. All credits to you and your family. I also wanna thank the maker of this video and its producer.
Just fascinating! I, like so many others, have wondered about the Voynich since I first learned about it some years ago. Amazing that no one tried to compare it to existing languages, or ancient/archaic versions of existing languages, before.
I am a little late to the party, so I don't what has happened in the 2+ years since you published this video, but I'm going to look into it. Thank you so much for your hard work!
I hope they translate it into English and publish it for the public. I love herb books the older the better
You'd love to see my Culpepper books then, i'm lucky to have them.
William Edwards meditate the herbs and ask the Holy Spirit . Must glorify the Holy Spirit . Read Jude : worship God in the Spirit . He alone reveals everything in His manifold grace , He is Jesus Christ . The Spirit of mercy and righteousness to endure forever and ever . He is the power , Hebrews 13 .
He only needs our heart to be pure in righteousness and do good works . The worshippers can pray for healing . But cannot recommend herbs or medicine , no duality . All other things are we have to endure . Endurance and hope produce
real vision . Thank you for sharing to those interested . Love .
You should check Ben Cao Gang Mu (本草纲目)。It's an acient Chinese herbal book.
@@wilsontovano8262 Thanks for the information, I'll check it out.
it is imaginary
or the author just copied from some really ancient manuscript
we have to wait for the full transcrip
No wonder America and England couldn’t figure it out. The entire structure is completely different than ours.
@Tom's Ghost what?
@Tom's Ghost oh, sorry, i was thinking something else about electronic components, got very confused..
@Tom's Ghost yeah, i finnaly noticed, CELT just sounds like some hi-tech multi million military device or something, very interesting..
@Tom's Ghost i mean, if thats true, then i guess john connor will be born soon..
@Tom's Ghost haha that's a good one, also i gotta say, you have some oddly specific knowledge there, mind if i ask what your job is?
This is amazing work. Fascinating explanation of a difficult language. Thank you for taking the time to translate this.
That's a phenomenal work and I just cannot wait to get the fully translated manuscript! Yale must fund them for the entire research as they have already figured it out how to do it and/or what it is!
Yale is jealous
Some of the results of our text analysis:
1- The alphabet used contained both single letters, combined letters, and tamgas (tanımga). It is evident that the entire text could have been written in basic letters, yet the author used complex syntax - that employed combined letters and tamgas - by using multifunctional isolated affixations (which mostly in coded parts for phonetic valued expansion).
2- The alphabet that the author used contains abbreviations that both have phonetic and numerological value. A close example to demonstrate the concept in English would be the use of abbreviation to express statements like “for you” as “4U”.
3- Some of the suffixes isolated from their roots, and it causing the words before and after the suffix to each have a different meaning as they approach that suffix. Therefore, the author is able to take two words and have a suffix in between and create expanding meaning combinations. One of this example can be found in the 3rd line of the paragraph that was analyzed in Folio 33v-Sunflower-.
4- The results of our text analysis based from randomly chosen pages demonstrate that the author did code the texts, which can be read downwards and upwards for every first letter of each line, as well as it can be read downwards and upwards for every last letter of each line. In these codes, the author wrote diary entries describing people, settings and events that have nothing to do with science or art.
5- The author is a traveller/explorer, researcher, writer, seeds-kernels seller, gynecologist doctor, medicine maker, space observer, poet and educator (+) who was travelling in Europe. One of the destinations in this travel was Istanbul (or Europeans call the city as Constantinople in the time period).
6- Throughout the journey the author was not alone. He traveled with his family and friends and-or relatives. (Three families. (Nine person, and as we understand three of them children).
7- The author wrote this book throughout the journey.
Our current hypothesis and notes:
1- The author was travelling from Italy to Istanbul.
2- Istanbul city (Constantinople) to Anatolia and-or Baku city (today's Azerbaijan) probably was the last destination in this travel.
3- Is it possible that manuscript has been stolen from "Ottoman Imperial Archives" around the presumably year in 1911, and 1912? Is there any other single page with written same alphabet in the Ottoman archive in Istanbul?
A Ardich have you approached Yale about building a software translation program, that can just scan the pages & using your data, start deciphering the entire book? Yale could probably get Google to run it through their latest gen quantum computer. It never hurts too ask, the worst they can do is decline. However, this manuscript & it's untold story is famous enough they'll do it for the PR alone.
Uou may want to consider contacting the creator of this RUclips video ruclips.net/video/lhtZc-nFNt0/видео.html he is making progress on the astrological part of the manuscript.
Thank you for suggestion. It is good idea. In addition we are planning to send new publication to YALE University too.
We discussed the issue with one of the Turkey’s biggest technology-based establishment companie in Middle East Technical University -Turkey-Ankara to create our own reading-software for VM.
We are planning to translate entire book with using this new special software with together all interested parties around the world. We will share more information about this and about all questions. Thanks.
I pity the next Top Ten video that includes the Voynich Manuscript as an unsolved mystery.
Bishop Howells lmao
Bishop Howells true
It's still unsolved. This is an unsubstantiated claim.
That shit video .now I'm follow you give again one 👍🏻for bishop howell.no 223
A Big Thank you to the family for their effort.
Congratulations on your break through. I can't wait to be able to buy a translated copy of this manuscript sometime in the future.
The harmony within the letter groups has always reminded me of my mother tongue. I knew it! Turkish, in daily life, uses word doublings very frequently to intensify the meaning, and it follows the formula of consonant+vowel+consonant+vowel. Those who interested could also look for "Old Turkic Alphabet".
Wait you’re telling me in 400 years not one fucker ever thought to compare it to every language possible?
ruclips.net/video/awGN5NApDy4/видео.html 'bout 37 min in they say that phonetically it didn't match any known language, (because the author was using combined letters as revealed here). At 16 minutes in the vid in link, they tell us that in 1665 the text was sent from a bohemian doctor to a scientist in Rome who supposedly knew all languages. It's likely that for years everyone kind of knew where and when this manuscript was from, but after many decades everyone forgot and those that came after were clearly over thinking the whole thing. I can't imagine spending years as a cryptographer and finding out that the entire thing is not in code but really just written in old world Turkish. lmao
It was only possible for an expert in Turkic languages to see these patterns. It was because of the fact that Yale digitised the text and made it available to the public that this Turkic expert came into contact with it. It's not like you can just imagine that it looks like Turkish if you aren't familiar with the language.
That is a hard thing to do. There are over 6000 living languages in the world, and then you have thousands of extinct languages. Then you have to add the fact that this text was written in an unknown alphabet. Most people have thought this was written in some sort of code. I think that most people also assumed it would be written in some Indo-European language. Not many people in the West are familiar with ancient Turkish.
What 106 people didn't get the point of this video, after seeing it? The language isn't standard or modern Turkish. It needed a real expert in the field not to mention a little inspiration.
+GrassPossum: Your point is well taken, however, a good linguist should have been able to see the patterns even if they didn't know ancient Turkish. I'm just not sure many of the people who have examined the text were actually linguists.
Wow! Finally a breakthrough! I almost lost hope that we would ever decipher it. Fingers crossed for you guys!
Wonderful, congratulations to you this is a phenomenal achievement. I hope your efforts are highly recognised and rewarded, they far exceed all previous attempts to translate this mysterious book.
Yeah by someone who was Turkish, that's really good and all but this exceptionalism needs to end. This guy just happened to be in a privileged position to have that opportunity.
He's not western or white. So probably they'll ignore him.
@@Whatever-mx3bt wait...are you actually saying that they should STOP because he was privileged enough to be able to decode it? Help me understand what you're saying and why, because the fact someone could think "this needs to end" lol wut and why?!
Why is thia not major world wide breaking news ?
Most people have never heard of it. And this claim may turn out to be unsubstantiated anyway.
just wait until they find a pronoun
rothschilds don’t give a s...t
Wait for the manipulation. The book has some important information, which we will not learn them all...
Why would it be?
Thank you for having an interest in ancient language and taking the time to decipher this when for well over a hundred years, no one had a clue as to what was written. I will be watching and waiting for more. This is fascinating.
You guys are awesome .
I have heard about this mysterious book for centuries and wondered about its true properties . Just hearing a little bit of the translation has freed me of at least one obsession . Thank you .
Thanks to Professor Dr. Firudin Celilov. He has examined our work. He devoted some his precious time to our work. After his study, he gave us the following reference letter. Thus, linguists starts to verify that our studies. Which means that alphabet transcriptions (we were make for this manuscript) ensures that the manuscript was written in Turkish.
To those interested in reading of Voynich Manuscript,
I have had chance to investigate the claim that Ahmet Ardic and his sons made about the 600 year old Voynich Manuscript that it is written in Turkic. Upon studying the transcript Ardic family proposed I was able to independently verify that in fact this manuscript is written in a Turkic language.
Ahmet Ardic, during his visit in Baku Azerbaijan on September 23, 2018 has presented me his findings. After Mr Ardic’s presentation I have had the opportunity to evaluate and investigate in detail the Latin alphabet transcription he proposed. Upon investigating the individual words and the grammar structure it became evident that the manuscript is based on Turkish language and the transcript Ardic family proposed successfully translates the manuscript into Turkic language. The words, phrases and sentences that have been used in this manuscript have been read. Words and sentence structures are in harmony with the Turkish language, and while translated into the present Turkish language within the structure of the Turkish language, clear and emerging meanings are reflected.
I am glad to bring my independent expert validation of Ardic families findings to the attention of those who are interested in this subject matter.
Sincerely,
Prof. Dr. Firudin Aghasioghlu Jalilov
The Letter In Azerbaijani Turkish;
VOYNICH əl yazmasının oxunması ilə maraqlanan şəxslərə,
Təxminən 600 illik tarixə malik olduğu deyilən, ümumdünyada onu Avropada tapdığını bildirən şəxsin adı ilə bilinən Voynich əlyazması üçün Ahmet Ardıç və oğulları tərəfindən hazırlanan əlifba transkripsiyası, yenə onların tərtib etdiyi oxuma-araşdırma işləri, dilə aid çox sayda məsəl və cümlə tərcümələri ilə 23 Sentyabr 2019 cu il tarixində tanış oldum.
Ahmet Ardıç mənə Azərbaycan Respublikası, Bakı şəhərində bu məsələ ilə bağlı ətraflı təqdimat etdi. Ahmet Ardıç-ın təqdimatı zamanı bu əlyazmasının Latın əlifbası ilə olan transkripsiyasını tədqiq etdim. Bu transkripsiyadan faydalanaraq əlyazmasında öz əksini tapan sözlər, ifadələr və cümlələr oxunulmuşdur. Sözlər və cümlə quruluşu Türk dili ilə uyğunluq təşkil edərək, Türk dilinin cümlə strukturası çərçivəsində hazırki Türk dilinə tərcümə edildikdə aydın və başadüşülən mənalar öz əksini tapır.
Sadalananlara istinad edərək bu əlyazmanın Türk dilində yazıldığını və bu yazı üçün nəzərdə tutulan əlifba transkripsiyasının da düzgün olduğunu başa düşdüm. Bu məsələ ilə maraqlanan şəxslərin nəzərinə çatdırılır.
Hörmətlə,
Prof.Dr.Firudin Ağasıoğlu Cəlilov
Congratulations, you have finally decoded something that modern scholars with great knowledge and wisdom could not.
@@factualconsent8259 They haven't received any support outside of Turkologists who reject basic protolinguistic theories, and treat sprachbunds like language families.
In my book "Secret of Words vol4." I have found that Voynich letters are bridge of Chinese and Latin, Turkish is the right location.
That is amazing, I'm not sure why this is not bigger news? what is the manuscript actually about? I waited for a explanation, however they didn't end up saying much about the actual context of the manuscript.
@@jocelynm116 i guess you can find answer in their explanatory vlog. They comprehensively elaborated the purpose. It seemed like the author was a curious Voyager.
Outstanding work! You have found the key to unlocking the Voynich Manuscript. I love that it is linked to an old Turkish dialect and NOT the random scribbling of a odd fellow as has been suggested in the past. I love the genius of hitting upon the Turkish and discovering the artistic usage of words, art, and letters, which prove the veracity of the key. I love the translation of the Sunflower page, and how the text makes sense of the illustration and the dying flower, that may have largely gone unnoticed, but with the text, the dying flower takes on significance in the illustration. Outstanding job in unlocking the secrets of the Voynich Manuscript!
It is not too surprising that this mystery is being solved by, of all people, a family of engineers! I've known many engineers over the past 40 years. Their minds always seem to be dominated by an interesting combination of two traits - brilliance, coupled with bare-bones practicality.
This thing has thwarted code breakers for centuries. Yet a Turkish engineer becomes interested in the thing, notices a consistent use of a particular set of characters. And then, in the most practical and simple of ideas, notices a commonality to a phonically written Turkish dialect. Conclusion? The book was not written in code at all, but phonically. The solution fits the facts perfectly. It even explains why this "one of a kind" hand written manuscript seems to contain no revisions or mistakes.
Once again, mankind has a set of engineers to thank! So, Thank You!
Roger Hill Well now, at 64 I’ve had some conversations with highly intelligent beings, engineers are among my favorites and I concur. ❤️
@@lindabuck2777 Yes,l thank my electrical engineer father for calling me out to his workshop to hold things while he did stuff to them. I am sure it influenced my thinking. A girl soldering a crystal radio??
Kathleen Nelson Wait. Did you just say ‘crystal’ radio? The garages and workshop walls could tell stories about me back in the day, and it’s where the ‘boys’ were and it’s how I discovered how attractive intelligence was THANK GOD! Lol so solder away my talented friend, I did a tad of everything too, but electric circular saws are my downfall, as they scare the snot outta me! I miss my dad too ❤️ thanx for a walk in an old memory. BLESSINGS OF LOVE
@@lindabuck2777 Reading the replies from you dear ladies is a joy.... but also births a touch of envy. I am about the least mechanically gifted man God ever made. And my family is something quite different than engineers. But I retain a sincere admiration for anyone whose interest lay in solving practical problems. It is people like your families that have made life easier for others.
Roger Hill you know what? I tell people that my talents lie elsewhere, and it’s not my lane thank you and it’s true! Feel free to take that and use it! It’s a JOY to hear we touched someone. I LOVE TRUTH!! BLESSINGS OF LOVE
Finally, there is significant progress in study of this ms. Congratulations to you and your sons!
Wow, excellent work! An electrical engineer and his 2 sons with a passion for ancient languages decipher a codex that no academic could! Bravo! Can't wait to learn the rest of the translation!
It would be funny if it turns out to be the first sales brochure ever made lol
I think it's just some dudes journal from the 15th century, and I think these flowers may have been species yet to be discovered or just artistically drawn in a different way.
😂
Kendall Falk it’s obviously sunflowers 🌻
fecklar jenkins Just like most things of this sort, it ends up being something very basic and totally silly. Of course the conspiracy theorists expected the book to be filled with ancients secrets passed onto humans by aliens that allow us to live forever...or something like that.
they cannot make copies of it in that time
I just discovered this book this morning by watching a documentary on it from 2010. According to what I'm seeing, this book has simply been in the wrong hands up until now. I saw a theory that the book was gibberish. Another said it was written by Leonardo DaVinci.
Your team seems to have done an amazing job at deciphering this book. Thank you for your efforts and please keep up the great work. I look forward to seeing your continued translations.
Yes that was seriously interesting as I've been watching this manuscripts progress and different people's struggles with it, so thank you for posting.👍
The author was multilingual (which was probably Arabic, Hebrew, and-or may be some other European languages). In addition, because of the promoting style written Turkic language in the book, the author was communicate with Turkish farmers in Europe.
Voynich Manuscript Research related to the ottoman empire?
Looks to me like some outdated issues of BNF lol.
I like the way the gentleman mixes letters and digits as this is what the ancient languages were like. Every person who learns to read and calculate by the age of 3 knows this pain when they write 3 instead of E and doesn’t understand what the fuss is about. Looks at the music score and sees equations, a life changing experience.
it was sunflower seeds, it was pretty obvious. watch the video again
seems like the finally found the right man for the task awesome!!!!
So are ya telling me it was a case of having the right people see it?
Once again censorship & the cloaking of info in secrecy causes a serious waste of resources... make sure you have the police beat & jail a homeless man today... for being a waste of resources!
Yep. The current holders of the manuscript made a facsimile available hoping that this would happen.
Mitchred99 derp Turkish Delight!!!
No, we still have no idea exactly what it means. Many people have claimed to have deciphered some of the text's meaning, such as the people featured in this video, but it's still a mystery.
Always be sceptical when it is the people translating it who claim to have translated it. Many others have claimed such before
Amazing ... Finally some results on possibly understanding this book fully one day ... Major Congrats on being able to decipher some of it . I'm totally looking forward to one day being able to enjoy reading a copy of it in english ... Thank You for all of your efforts
What an amazing team! A father and his 2 sons!! God bless you guys!
This makes sense. The dating of the manuscript dated back to around 1420 when Turkey was a more advanced civilization. Given the manuscript was made with great effort and cost, it may have represented the best knowledge at the time from that part of the world. The previous people studying it may not have any idea about ancient Turkish and were on the wrong track of looking at the book as an encrypted one. The translated paragraph of the plant resembling sunflower makes perfect sense.
It's Turkic language but that doesn't mean it has to be written in Turkey itself.
Present day Turkey was the eastern part of the Roman Empire, it was invaded by Central Asian tribes who took over a country that was hopelessly weakened by the Black Death or Bubonic Plague. The civilization was a European one that was co-opted by a Muslim one. The original Turks that invaded were not nearly as advanced as the Byzantine one that they took over.
The author of this manuscript was a genius in his time...the detail and descriptions are awesome! And, great artistic talent to accurately portray the various subjects...Thank you for your continued efforts to decipher and translate this priceless document.
Good effort! Glad to see someone making progress on the mystery.
Great job, guys! I hope you're being sufficiently rewarded for all your hard work... VERY IMPRESSIVE! The funny part is that the answer was [relatively] simple. however everyone was approaching the "deciphering" incorrectly -- it was NEVER a cipher to begin with! I'm literally blown away...! GREAT...!
I cant wait to see the translation of some of the stranger sections of the manuscript. Particularly the parts with the weird people going into tubes and whatnot
Greg Peterson cool...I was wondering about that....is there a link to that info
Inform me when english translation book available.i cannot wait to buy it.
OMG! I only watched a BBC documentary on this topic yesterday. To find the code's been broken is wonderful ; congratulations to the Ardic family. I always cringe when experts say because it's too hard, it must be fantasy or non-nonsensical. It's typical of ego's in the realms of competitive science. I caught a word that to me looked Greek. I'm not sure if the two languages are linked, but as someone posted earlier; "Sometimes inquisitive common sense is all it takes" Thanks for making me smile this morning Armet!
Could easily be names for plants and other terminology all Indo-European languages share many close relationships and indeed Greek as a language has spread very far and wide, especially when it comes to science and terminology so it is quite plausible.
Awesome work.. finally these guys had the ability and the background to translate this mysterious book :) pretty sure the original author is looking down with a great smile
Well done. Congratulations as this Voynich manuscript would have fallen away from memory, but with you & families interest & dedication, you have brought it back to life & now we can hope for a finished puzzle one day.
Why is this not mainstream news?!?
I think we're in early...I wonder what those kernels taste like.
When was the voynich book ever mainstream
Wayne Samuel because there's too many Terrorists and mass shootings for anyone in the media to care about something like this. This isn't fear media, it's educational therefore it's not relevant to many people today. Too many uninterested idiots to appreciate this writing and work of art.
I think I see it on sciencealert website a months ago. Then you have to keep in mind all the very smart linguist who studied it and got nowhere. And (no Offence) amature linguist and his son solved it. Yeah a lot of people have egg on their face. I'm happy the mystery is solved and bravo to those two for solving what nobody else could.
"We" just thought ahead
They deserve some kind of prize
THEY DECIPHER IT! What better price they can get instead of this ?! Solved 500 years old one of the biggest world mystery!!!
koosh csanyi
In all honesty, if they can correctly explain the whole manuscript in full detail, yeah, they'll get a ton of recognition. Especially if it is proven in time that they were right.
how about a pizza
koosh csanyi
Maybe if they translate the whole thing it'll teach them magic! That'd be prize enough for me!
koosh csanyi Nobel
Thank you both for trying to break this manuscript! I look forward to it being revealed!👏
Wow, that is AWESOME. How gratifying that this breakthrough was made! I can't wait to find out what the whole thing says.
That is truly incredible. It took the right people with the right knowledge and interest to make it happen. Thank you so much. Very impressive. I am so excited to finally read some of this mystery.
Watch "The Professor and the Madman" on dvd starring Mel Gibson and Sean Penn. A somewhat similar task and I think you will appreciate the astronomical odds it took for their task to start to work.
You left out the fact that it has yet to be translated. Just sayin'.
I would love an actual copy of the translated version with the wonderful illustrations, of course.
there is pdf version available. I've been studying it daily. Seems like a life force instruction book if you ask me. Much like the same stuff the Japanese insert into their final fantasy movie spirits within. I do believe that this is a handbook, or instruction manual for how come women have natural abilities to channel and tune into other realms over men. Givers of life, life force broken down in its most basic understanding. Well one thing is for sure, whatever it had to teach, WE AIN"T APPLYING IT, look around... we decay.
Missy Moonwillow can you please provide the link of pdf? Can’t find it.
@@missymoonwillow6545 The letters and words are of Agara. The plants and alchemist recipes ARE of Agartha. There are MANY of us who can id this but the wise know when to stay silent for the benefit of mankind.
@@shanghunter7697 I don't understand. How will it benefit mankind? How does anything benefit mankind by hiding the truth?
Naruto Uzumaki you can’t hide the truth. It will come out whether it’s 1 or a 10.000 years knows the eternal soul
This work and effort is so examplary, truly appreciate 🙏 Teşekkürler
This is awesome! I just got interested in this again after around 6 years of not even really thinking about it much and find that 2 years ago there may have been a real breakthrough. So awesome!
I bet it's the earliest known version of what we know as The Farmer's Almanac.
Looks like a dude investigating the flora & fauna of early 1400... and how to make Agriculture pay... probably a wealthy guy in the market of his day who put his methods to paper & made a retirement gift to the locals on how best to raise crops eke out a living with Agriculture... kind of like how the homesteaders post video's on youtube today about eking out a living on there on/off grid homestead
I was gonna say the same.
I was thinking the same thing watching this video.
@Donald Floyd whooosh
@Donald Floyd yeah a spiral is such a crazy concept. Its not like it could be anything else.
It's such a beautiful peice of history amd this father and son are doing the human race a service and I'm looking forward to more of there work. Thank you
As a botanist that translation does ring very true to the period to me, at least from my limited reading of older Latin botanical texts. But then again it seems possible for one to decide on a translation strategy being very guided on what you think the page is supposed to say, for instance, after reading up on sunflower biology.
My hat is off to the Ata Team for figuring this out! Wonderful, in that an otherwise mysterious manuscript can now be defined. Sad in that another mystery is being subtracted from the mind of imagination and into the mundane. This mystery has fascinated me for a long time. I hope the final complete interpretation will be presented to the public someday.
That feels like a promising methodology to me. I'll bet it cracks the code. Amazing that it took this long, and a family of amateurs end up solving the unsolvable. Well done!
nah
I'm happy that little by little we unlock the mystery of the Voynich Manuscript. I hope we can solve it in the near future and gain knowledge on it.
I think the moral of this documentary that I learnt is that sometimes, it just takes the right person at the right time...
The manuscript that once was deemed impossible to decipher...
Yes, it takes time as well, lots of time...
But it was finally revealed. How wonderful the world works!
This father and son team are to be commended. To accomplish what several language experts and computer programs could not is miraculous!
Fantastic work! Wish you best of lucks getting it proofed and finally solving the mystery.
Great works to you! I hope they ( the world) will give you the honor that decoded this voynich manuscripts 👍👌❤️❤️ God Bless and continue the enlightening works! Now we will know what is written in that “ voynich book” thank you sooooo much !
Fascinating and such a straightforward solution as opposed to triple encryption or the like. Tye fact that the translation matches the pictures gives even more credibility to their methods. I will look forward to the full translation!
Incredible work! After 100's of years your family has done it. I look forward and wish you luke in finishing the rest of the translations.
You all deserve academic accolades for this. I will be in line to purchase the translated copy.. Again, thank you!
I love this Knowledge. and the fact that a man and his son's finally decoded the Manuscript is even more Important. I've alway's said, True Breakthrough's come from a person doing something for his own need. not in a Lab or Factory under the burden of Production or Finance. Thank you Gentlemen You have done the World a great Service.
At first this was "alien and coded" now it's just old Turkish style writing that will probably be a common book in librarys once translated completely
Its not Turkish. The theory was declined by the Yale university
@4öRT y. that's coming from a Turkish nationalist, with no source. So imma just reverse that and say that 80% of Turks are Kurdish, Greek, Armenians and Jews.
@4öRT y. You are good for a comedian, not a historian.
@@ulfricstormcloack4066 as if you are different, by coming with nonsenses invented yesterday, that, " Kurdish Greek Armenian and Jews" rhetoric..those ethnicities are all mixture of a variety of backgrounds, if you believe they are pure or something, you are a fool..what is important here is the history and the culture and language of a culture, not genetics..kurds doesn't even have a written language, first examples are coming out in 21. century.. "Jews" isn't even a nation, it's a religion and they invented Israel yesterday.. Armenians are also mixture of a different background people and the name "Arman" is hijacked, they don't even call themselves Armenian and their 30 years old country as Armenia but they call themselves as Hayk and their country as Hayastan..Their language is a derivative of Greek and Farisi, they even use many old Turkish words in arcaic forms of Turkish..Greece is no different story, invented in 1830s alongside a fake history. The inhabitants of this phony "Hellenic" state are Albans, Turks, Serbs, Bulgars, Vlachs and so many balkan gypsies..The language is a derivative of Coptic, the alphabet is Phoneician..etc etc etc..there are so many things that you don't know and you will not learn it from mainstream institution like Yale visa versa who are actual sources of the fake history of mankind..
@@soulsirius You are just using some conspiracy theories, which ill reply to tomorrow cause i dont have the time now.
Amazing! So good to know that we have an opportunity now to read the content of the book. Turkish language is amazing.
Excellent job, by far the most plausible translation i have seen
Amazing, hats off to these men. So glad they paid the manuscript attention. Very easy to see why other cryptographers and linguists have failed with the diversity, complexity, multiple pronunciations, combinations and not to mention modifications through time Turkish letters/words have had. Without a history of speaking, reading and specialising in the previous versions there’s no way a native English speaking person could of figured it out. We do not recognise word formation and meaning on anywhere near this level.
You're here because of thoughty 2 aren't you?
Congratulations
You uncoded the RUclips :)
Either thoughty2 or simon Whistler and one of his 50 channels
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Wow!
Finally, i have been waiting so long for it!
I have dreamed for years about a translated copy!
Yup!
Bravo! Many kudos to you and your brilliant sons! I knew someone, somewhere, would be able to solve this puzzle. No one would spend so much time and care writing this large volume if they were just writing gibberish. I knew it must mean something. And now you have solved that mystery! Thank you and your sons for all your efforts. I look forward someday soon, to reading the whole manuscript once it has been translated.
An amazing accomplishment to discover this, what an incredibly gifted family, thank you for your hard work so that we might know just that much more about this intriguing mystery
Astonishing and fascinating work. Thank you so much for your efforts.