Can we go back to duels? Why is it illegal that two consenting adults want to compete to the the death? We'd have way less aggression in regular society if that happened.
Ultradeath1 😂😂😂😂😂...Simon n the crew done it all that’s why, called it research they did - then banged out a whole new RUclips channel with the most shifty videos ever.. 1: Top ten reasons I’m not being paranoid, but did you hear that?..
Historian: "BURR vs HAMILTON: (The Duel). Normally, in duels, you walk off ten steps, (which they did), present as low an outline as possible to your opponent, wait for a last-minute apology/concession, then fire at will (flag drop). This evidently went down. The two main eye-witness accounts vary because they were offered later by the two "Seconds" of Burr and Hamilton. It's generally acknowledged that Hamilton fired first - or at least initiated the simultaneous shots. The surviving pistols showed evidence that Hamilton had "doctored" the pistols that "he" himself brought. He chose the modified pistol with a "hair-trigger." Regardless, Hamilton's shot missed Burr, hitting a tree. Hamiltonians would have us believe that it was a "deliberate" miss-shot fired into the air. If this were true, then why did Hamilton put his glasses on before firing his pistol? Burr's shot shattered Hamilton's wrist before ricocheting into his right-side abdomen, piercing his liver and lodging into his spine. Hamilton's wrist could not have been raised in the air with this result. Dueling was against the law at this time, punishable by death in New York, so the two duelists carried out their archaic settlement on the shores of New Jersey. Interestingly, during this illegal act, Hamilton's Second was District Court "Judge" Nathaniel Pendleton. Hamilton provided both pistols, the same pair used when his son lost his own life in a duel three years earlier - at the same location. Hamilton was not "murdered." He might have been a victim of his own tampering - or, he was just a bad shot - even with his glasses on."
@@al145 Yes, I've heard of that wrestling match. The man with whom Lincoln fought was named Jack Armstrong (whether the old-time radio character Jack Armstrong was named after him, I don't know). Lincoln eventually won the fight, but Armstrong wasn't angry at him for it, I guess because he admired Lincoln's courage and strength, and the two of them became friends. Many years later, when Lincoln was a lawyer, he was the defense counsel for Jack Armstrong's son, "Duff" Armstrong, when the latter was accused of murder. The trial of "Duff" Armstrong reached an unexpected climax when a prosecution witness testified that he saw the accused commit the crime (which occurred outdoors), even though it was night time. The witness said he could tell what was going on because the moon was bright enough for him to see everything. However, Lincoln discredited the man's testimony by producing a farmer's almanac stating that on the night of the murder, the moon wasn't as bright as the witness said it was, so he couldn't have seen the crime as clear as he said he could. The result was that "Duff" Armstrong was acquitted. The 1939 movie "Young Mr. Lincoln," in which Henry Fonda played the title role, featured a fictionalized version of the Armstrong trial, with the names of the people involved changed (no doubt to "protect the innocent," as they used to say on "Dragnet"). Here, the accused is not one man, but two brothers, each of whom says he's the guilty one and that the other is innocent. As in the actual case, a witness comes forward to testify that he saw the murder. I don't know the name of the real witness, but in this film, his name is J. Palmer Cass, and this gives Lincoln a chance to inject his famous sense of humor into the courtroom proceedings. He asks Mr. Cass what the "J" in his name stands for, and Cass tells him that it stands for John. When Lincoln presses him about why he clips his first name, Cass replies that it's his business alone what he calls himself, prompting "Honest Abe" to say, "Well, if it's all the same to you, I'll just call you JACK CASS," which gives the spectators a laugh because the name sounds like the word "jackass." Again, as in the real case, Mr. Cass says that he saw the murder by the light of the moon, and Lincoln proves that he's lying because the moon wasn't that bright on the evening of the crime. However, this Hollywoodized version of the trial goes one better, because Lincoln not only proves that this star witness is a liar, but he also gets him to confess that HE IS THE REAL KILLER! In short, this cinematic embellishment makes "The Great Emancipator" seem like a 19th Century version of Perry Mason! Incidentally, it turns out that the reason each of the two brothers both insisted that he was guilty was because each of them knew he didn't do it, and thus assumed that the other brother did it. So they each confessed to save each other from being hanged. As an extra embellishment, among the people watching the trial are Lincoln's future wife, Mary Todd, and his future political opponent, Stephen Douglas, who, after the case is solved, apologizes to Lincoln for some unkind remarks he made about him (perhaps this scene was meant to be ironic, because a few decades later, Douglas would make some similarly derogatory remarks about Lincoln during their famous political debates of 1858). Whether or not Miss Todd and Mr. Douglas attended the real trial I couldn't say.
I say that we make all TikTok “stars” settle their arguments with a duel. They’ll only be given very dull swords. And, no one will be filming it. Let them work it out themselves.
when a blade is dull,we tend to use more force,rendering the blade actually more dangerous.give them sword shaped and sized pieces of wood.whoever breaks his sword loses.
Simon, is it possible that the Emancipation Duel is discounted due to "a lack of credible sources" because the men present were forced to turn their backs to the goings on? Societal norms would've discounted the story from the beginning (women and their tales) but having "men" (in quotes because they were slaves so not considered to be full human) present but unable to be eyewitnesses would've cast further aspersions on the event.
what about Andrew Jackson and Charles Dickinson in 1806 where Jackson was hit first but Jackson aimed carefully and shot Dickinson dead allegedly saying "Had i been shot though the brain sir, I should still have killed him" the wound he sustained in the duel almost killed Jackson and had it done so American history might be rather different especially regarding relations with the natives
"You bounder! I challenge you to rapiers at twenty paces!" Days later, they both died of exposure/exhaustion/starvation after standing there, hacking away at thin air.
I am surprised that Lincoln didn't elect to Wrestle or hand to hand, because Lincoln only was bested at wrestling once. I do not know if wrestling would have been an option at that time. Lincoln was very smart to choose Broadswords and to use his as he did.
I remember seeing that canada wanted to bring back duels to settle conflicts but obviously both parties needed to sign documents with lawyers so the winner doesnt go to jail for murder, but i never heard a follow up story🤷♂️
On Burr v. Hamilton, according to Gore Vidal, the reason Burr wanted the duel was Hamilton was spreading it around NYC that Burr was having an incestuous relationship with his daughter Theodosia. No one really is certain, but historians tend to agree with Vidal's deduction.
There were no running mates in the 1800 or 1804 elections. In 1800, the runner-up became vice president. The 12th Amendment was passed in 1803, so the 1804 was run under those rules in which the offices of president and vice-president were voted for separately.
If you go to Weehawken, New Jersey the memorial to The Duel mentions Hamilton's name but does not refer to his appoint by the his name (Burr). Sort of like the obelisk at the Battle of Saratoga where the name of Benedict Arnold doesn't appear (even though he was that encounter's hero).
They got one shot and if both missed it was deemed inconclusive. They also often had a intermediate person also armed if one cheated he would shoot them
I get your drift. A few years ago Biden actually said (words to this effect) if they were in high school, he would take Trump out behind the barn and beat the hell out of him.
_Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid_ Harvey: Rules? In a knife fight? No rules! [Butch kicks Harvey in the groin] Butch: Well, if there aint' going to be any rules, let's get the fight started. Someone count. 1,2,3 go. Sundance: 1,2,3, go! [Butch knocks Harvey out]
I’ve only just started the video and I’m going on record prior to seeing any of the 10 listed here as saying if the 1808 hot air balloon duel over Paris isn’t mentioned, I will be sorely disappointed.
217 years ago (7.11.2021), 2 men rowed across the Hudson to Weehawken, NJ to settle their disputes, 1 of them ended up paying the ultimate price: their life ha! i knew it!! Hamilton and Burr is #1
I think another reason dueling went out was that at least one European nation got so sick of their military officers fighting that they passed a law stating that the widow of a military officer, killed in a duel, would not be granted a pension.
New developments since this video. George Canning was PM for 119 day which until recently was the shortest tenure of any British PM. But since then Liz Truss has broken that record with a run of 50 day! Which I think is funny
Burr... his political history is very... I read a book about him out of curiosity and after his duel with Hamilton he made some very strange choices indeed.
In California in 1859 there was Broderick-Terry. US Senator David Broderick, who supported California as a free state vs Joseph Terry, who wanted CA as a slave state. Broderick's death brought sympathy to CA remaining free and supporting the Union with its gold.
Should've been a Business-Blaze vid. BaDumTsss & Just imagine the mimed duels with a rolled up script, inevitably to be used, beating the basement dweller, allegedly.
I recall doing studies in history class in the Hitchcock and the Hamilton and Burr one as well but could not recall details so thank you. Now regarding the women, I am all for women mud wrestling contest but *TOPLESS SWORD FIGHTING* 👁️👁️ , the topless part peaked my interest but I would not of wanted the women killed in either party. Over flowers as well? *WTH* ? It just shows that Women throughout history had never had their priorities right. *OKAY, I WILL RUN AND HIDE NOW. NEVER MESS WITH ANYTHING OR ANYONE THAT CAN BLEED A ENTIRE WEEK AND ACTUALLY LIVE* !
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Any 2 dudes: *has a disagreement*
Dudes: Its time to D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DUEL
Simon Whistler
My name is Simon Whistler
And there's a million channels I haven't done
But just you wait, just you wait
Ahahahahahahah
The raid shadow legion ads me laugh.
Best one in highlander conner mccloud drunk keeps getting killed coming back and finally apologized and walks away everyone confused. 🤣🤣
Can we go back to duels? Why is it illegal that two consenting adults want to compete to the the death? We'd have way less aggression in regular society if that happened.
The Human right of Risk Taking!:-)💜
Theres no cocaine here but still a great channel allegedly
Ultradeath1 😂😂😂😂😂...Simon n the crew done it all that’s why, called it research they did - then banged out a whole new RUclips channel with the most shifty videos ever.. 1: Top ten reasons I’m not being paranoid, but did you hear that?..
Historian: "BURR vs HAMILTON: (The Duel). Normally, in duels, you walk off ten steps, (which they did), present as low an outline as possible to your opponent, wait for a last-minute apology/concession, then fire at will (flag drop). This evidently went down. The two main eye-witness accounts vary because they were offered later by the two "Seconds" of Burr and Hamilton. It's generally acknowledged that Hamilton fired first - or at least initiated the simultaneous shots. The surviving pistols showed evidence that Hamilton had "doctored" the pistols that "he" himself brought. He chose the modified pistol with a "hair-trigger." Regardless, Hamilton's shot missed Burr, hitting a tree. Hamiltonians would have us believe that it was a "deliberate" miss-shot fired into the air. If this were true, then why did Hamilton put his glasses on before firing his pistol? Burr's shot shattered Hamilton's wrist before ricocheting into his right-side abdomen, piercing his liver and lodging into his spine. Hamilton's wrist could not have been raised in the air with this result.
Dueling was against the law at this time, punishable by death in New York, so the two duelists carried out their archaic settlement on the shores of New Jersey. Interestingly, during this illegal act, Hamilton's Second was District Court "Judge" Nathaniel Pendleton. Hamilton provided both pistols, the same pair used when his son lost his own life in a duel three years earlier - at the same location. Hamilton was not "murdered." He might have been a victim of his own tampering - or, he was just a bad shot - even with his glasses on."
"I see your point Abe"!:-)💜
There's some other story about Lincoln wrestling some guy who talked smack, i forget the details, but Abe was apparently a great grappler
@@al145 makes since Lincoln had long arms and legs both are great for grappling.
@@al145
Yes, I've heard of that wrestling match. The man with whom Lincoln fought was named Jack Armstrong (whether the old-time radio character Jack Armstrong was named after him, I don't know). Lincoln eventually won the fight, but Armstrong wasn't angry at him for it, I guess because he admired Lincoln's courage and strength, and the two of them became friends.
Many years later, when Lincoln was a lawyer, he was the defense counsel for Jack Armstrong's son, "Duff" Armstrong, when the latter was accused of murder. The trial of "Duff" Armstrong reached an unexpected climax when a prosecution witness testified that he saw the accused commit the crime (which occurred outdoors), even though it was night time. The witness said he could tell what was going on because the moon was bright enough for him to see everything. However, Lincoln discredited the man's testimony by producing a farmer's almanac stating that on the night of the murder, the moon wasn't as bright as the witness said it was, so he couldn't have seen the crime as clear as he said he could. The result was that "Duff" Armstrong was acquitted.
The 1939 movie "Young Mr. Lincoln," in which Henry Fonda played the title role, featured a fictionalized version of the Armstrong trial, with the names of the people involved changed (no doubt to "protect the innocent," as they used to say on "Dragnet"). Here, the accused is not one man, but two brothers, each of whom says he's the guilty one and that the other is innocent.
As in the actual case, a witness comes forward to testify that he saw the murder. I don't know the name of the real witness, but in this film, his name is J. Palmer Cass, and this gives Lincoln a chance to inject his famous sense of humor into the courtroom proceedings. He asks Mr. Cass what the "J" in his name stands for, and Cass tells him that it stands for John. When Lincoln presses him about why he clips his first name, Cass replies that it's his business alone what he calls himself, prompting "Honest Abe" to say, "Well, if it's all the same to you, I'll just call you JACK CASS," which gives the spectators a laugh because the name sounds like the word "jackass."
Again, as in the real case, Mr. Cass says that he saw the murder by the light of the moon, and Lincoln proves that he's lying because the moon wasn't that bright on the evening of the crime. However, this Hollywoodized version of the trial goes one better, because Lincoln not only proves that this star witness is a liar, but he also gets him to confess that HE IS THE REAL KILLER! In short, this cinematic embellishment makes "The Great Emancipator" seem like a 19th Century version of Perry Mason!
Incidentally, it turns out that the reason each of the two brothers both insisted that he was guilty was because each of them knew he didn't do it, and thus assumed that the other brother did it. So they each confessed to save each other from being hanged.
As an extra embellishment, among the people watching the trial are Lincoln's future wife, Mary Todd, and his future political opponent, Stephen Douglas, who, after the case is solved, apologizes to Lincoln for some unkind remarks he made about him (perhaps this scene was meant to be ironic, because a few decades later, Douglas would make some similarly derogatory remarks about Lincoln during their famous political debates of 1858). Whether or not Miss Todd and Mr. Douglas attended the real trial I couldn't say.
Topless royalty dueling with swords? I'd pay to see that.
Second that!
The follow up to the movie 300 has Eva Green fighting topless. Awesomeness in its barest form...
Dueling between two consenting adults should 100% be legal. The world would be a better place.
I say that we make all TikTok “stars” settle their arguments with a duel. They’ll only be given very dull swords. And, no one will be filming it. Let them work it out themselves.
Maybe finally tik tok and the cringe will finally end lmao
when a blade is dull,we tend to use more force,rendering the blade actually more dangerous.give them sword shaped and sized pieces of wood.whoever breaks his sword loses.
Little jelous Mabey ;)
@@peanutwars , not all tiktok is cringe
I'm surprised president Andrew Jackson dueling on the white house lawn wasn't on here
Me too
the Jacksons are controversial due to their heavy use of the word "motherfucker"
Simon, is it possible that the Emancipation Duel is discounted due to "a lack of credible sources" because the men present were forced to turn their backs to the goings on? Societal norms would've discounted the story from the beginning (women and their tales) but having "men" (in quotes because they were slaves so not considered to be full human) present but unable to be eyewitnesses would've cast further aspersions on the event.
Hamilton's greatest smear campaign against Burr was definitely "Burr kills Hamilton in Duel, Charged with Murder" 😂
Lmao at 7:18 there's definitely been a prime minister for a shorter term than that now 🤣
what about Andrew Jackson and Charles Dickinson in 1806 where Jackson was hit first but Jackson aimed carefully and shot Dickinson dead allegedly saying "Had i been shot though the brain sir, I should still have killed him" the wound he sustained in the duel almost killed Jackson and had it done so American history might be rather different especially regarding relations with the natives
Because the mere mention of Andrew Jackson would melt his snowflake subscribers
I doubt it
You mean like how the rcmp has practically the same relationship with their natives, to this day?
I still like the lesser known duel between Barbier-Dufai and Raoul.
In the back of the carriage, with daggers, while it did laps.
You didn’t say if Wild Bill calmly strolled over and retrieved his watch. Seems to be the whole point🤔.
He did say he was charged with murder...but was let off the hook.
But the wattttcccchhh😩
Interesting and nicely done.
Though I'll admit having hoped that the Wells/Maddox duel of 1827 would feature somewhere in there.
"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten-thousand truths" - Pushkin. Not sure I agree with that, but it is a nice idea.
"You bounder! I challenge you to rapiers at twenty paces!"
Days later, they both died of exposure/exhaustion/starvation after standing there, hacking away at thin air.
I am surprised that Lincoln didn't elect to Wrestle or hand to hand, because Lincoln only was bested at wrestling once. I do not know if wrestling would have been an option at that time. Lincoln was very smart to choose Broadswords and to use his as he did.
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Great video
Malcolm Reynolds vs Atherton Wing
Princess versus Countess in a sword duel? That is Hollywood level stuff that I'd expect to see in a swashbuckling film. More on that one please?
Wouldn’t physical fighting be so much more satisfying?
Did Hickock get his watch back ?
I'd say they were stupid for dueling in the past but kids today light themselves on fire for TikTok challenges
@2:30 "WOULD THE REAL SLIM SHADY..... PUHLEASEEEEE STAND UPPPPP".......
🤭🤭🤭😂
I remember seeing that canada wanted to bring back duels to settle conflicts but obviously both parties needed to sign documents with lawyers so the winner doesnt go to jail for murder, but i never heard a follow up story🤷♂️
That would have been awesome
On Burr v. Hamilton, according to Gore Vidal, the reason Burr wanted the duel was Hamilton was spreading it around NYC that Burr was having an incestuous relationship with his daughter Theodosia. No one really is certain, but historians tend to agree with Vidal's deduction.
There were no running mates in the 1800 or 1804 elections. In 1800, the runner-up became vice president. The 12th Amendment was passed in 1803, so the 1804 was run under those rules in which the offices of president and vice-president were voted for separately.
If you go to Weehawken, New Jersey the memorial to The Duel mentions Hamilton's name but does not refer to his appoint by the his name (Burr). Sort of like the obelisk at the Battle of Saratoga where the name of Benedict Arnold doesn't appear (even though he was that encounter's hero).
Fun fact: bloody island is now under the Eads Bridge on IL side of the Mississippi River when the first caisson is.
3:25 how can you duel with pistoles more than once and not be dead !? Crazy
They got one shot and if both missed it was deemed inconclusive. They also often had a intermediate person also armed if one cheated he would shoot them
@@skeetdavis8909 ooooh wow that’s super interesting thank you!
No sandbar fight with Jim Bowie?
Takes two to ... Duel!
Also, all perfect choices and I learned a lot, but was hoping for some Andrew Jackson. He's great.
Meh
Jesse Rothhammer: Not if you were Native American!
Nah no way, Yugi Vs Pegasus was the best duel
That duel was special. How Wheeler ever lasted so long, I'll never know.
I have a proposal for the upcoming controversial election
I get your drift.
A few years ago Biden actually said (words to this effect) if they were in high school, he would take Trump out behind the barn and beat the hell out of him.
Trump will still win
Nice
But Simon! You forgot _Frank vs. harmonica,_ the epic duel of _Once upon a time in the West_
@toptenz there's an error: Lincoln was the challenged participant, not the challenger.
_Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid_
Harvey: Rules? In a knife fight? No rules! [Butch kicks Harvey in the groin]
Butch: Well, if there aint' going to be any rules, let's get the fight started. Someone count. 1,2,3 go.
Sundance: 1,2,3, go! [Butch knocks Harvey out]
I’ve only just started the video and I’m going on record prior to seeing any of the 10 listed here as saying if the 1808 hot air balloon duel over Paris isn’t mentioned, I will be sorely disappointed.
217 years ago (7.11.2021), 2 men rowed across the Hudson to Weehawken, NJ to settle their disputes, 1 of them ended up paying the ultimate price: their life
ha! i knew it!! Hamilton and Burr is #1
“David” Tutt in the intro 😆
You forgot to mention the famous commercial about Burr and Hamilton. Got milk? 😋
😎🍻😎
it was redone in 2015 with Leslie Odom, Jr.
I've never heard Hickok pronounced like that...
Same. It's so, so weird and hard to listen to.
To quote Alexander Hamilton regarding to Jefferson becoming President “The lesser of two evils.”
I think another reason dueling went out was that at least one European nation got so sick of their military officers fighting that they passed a law stating that the widow of a military officer, killed in a duel, would not be granted a pension.
Simon..still a terminator searching for John conner..
New developments since this video. George Canning was PM for 119 day which until recently was the shortest tenure of any British PM. But since then Liz Truss has broken that record with a run of 50 day! Which I think is funny
simon is better to watch then history channel
Come on. That is a really low bar now. Give him more credit than that. Would like to see Simon team up with The History Guy.
@@jphilb absolutely 💯
@Central Scrutinizer it is but its basically the new MTV where history isn't a part of it 🤣
I don't remember the name of the movie, but it was nuts. Interesting, but nuts.
Still think video about Nepal buenas would be legend.
Gurkas!
@@macmcelveen1241 you're a gurka
A Biography video?
One nice thing, about being from peasant stock, is you don't duel you just got out BEHIND the tavern and roll up your fists and fight it out.
They need to bring back dueling,
Especially with politicians
I'm having the hardest time getting through #8 from the way he pronounces "Hickok". Never heard it pronounced that way, and it's making me twitch.
The take away is most duels can be summed up with "Bitches. Am I right?"
I’m surprise there’s nothing about Andrew Jackson on this list.
Burr... his political history is very... I read a book about him out of curiosity and after his duel with Hamilton he made some very strange choices indeed.
No mention of the last duel in France?
No mention of Rocky Raccoon...
So, no. 2 was duelling with both swords and guns drawn........ :P
The Duke of Wellington also had a duel when he was Prime Minister.
I've only heard of Galois due to the brand of cigarettes 🚬. However I think that it spelt slightly differently.
In California in 1859 there was Broderick-Terry. US Senator David Broderick, who supported California as a free state vs Joseph Terry, who wanted CA as a slave state. Broderick's death brought sympathy to CA remaining free and supporting the Union with its gold.
Alexa er Pushkin! I travelled on the ocean liner called the Alexander Pushkin in 1975, from England to Canada! Go figure! 🇨🇦
Should've been a Business-Blaze vid. BaDumTsss
& Just imagine the mimed duels with a rolled up script, inevitably to be used, beating the basement dweller, allegedly.
I always demand satisfaction!
I dont believe ANY duel ever happened between any politician. Cowards 1 and all.
New Halloween Tradition. ShirtLess Duelling with modern Olympic Sabres!!! Ouchie, that.
Eh? No Miyamoto Musashi vs Sasaki Kojiro??
You are a cad and a bounder and I demand satisfaction sir!!!
No Stephen Decatur? 🙁
I recall doing studies in history class in the Hitchcock and the Hamilton and Burr one as well but could not recall details so thank you. Now regarding the women, I am all for women mud wrestling contest but *TOPLESS SWORD FIGHTING* 👁️👁️ , the topless part peaked my interest but I would not of wanted the women killed in either party. Over flowers as well? *WTH* ? It just shows that Women throughout history had never had their priorities right. *OKAY, I WILL RUN AND HIDE NOW. NEVER MESS WITH ANYTHING OR ANYONE THAT CAN BLEED A ENTIRE WEEK AND ACTUALLY LIVE* !
When 10 becomes 8
Never been so early
So a league is 33 miles
Hekik? Really? Hundreds of movies and tv shows about Wild Bill you could have easily gotten that name right. Smh.
Disliked for the serious oversight of not including Musashi vs Sasaki Kojiro
Ah nothing screams gentlemen more then a physical fight like cavemen
Top 8?
Duals anno 2020..
1v1 me bro!
#7 Brokeback dueling
Duels among women happens all the time. Called cat fights
That’s not a fight with honour. Cat fights play by street rules. Noting is off the table. A duel typically has rules.
Daddy ilu plz come back
Did you know Wild Bill was actually a woman?
Have a duel: Trump vs. Biden. 🇺🇸😏👌🏻👍🏻
What is it with presidents dueling it out? Is that why the early days of America were more successful feeling? 😆
Please can you do some more british top tenz instead of always trying to get at them juicy sweet click bate americans.
Dear Aaron Burr,
Thank you!!!
What?