9 Things to Know About the 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon: The Short List
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- The 2018 Jeep Wrangler is here, and these are nine of the most important things you should know about it, including something unbelievable that happened to us while driving.
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That is a terrifying and dangerous place to have a Jeep to break down. Heavy fog + snowy roads + no rear hazards + truckers = big recipe for disaster.
I just ordered and bought my first ever Jeep. A 2021 JL Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I’ve off roaded my entire life throughout California, Arizona, Nevada and various other areas too but always used trucks, with a majority being Toyota Tacoma 4x4’s but I wanted something that had the ultimate off roading capabilities in stock form that could be built upon and added to and the new Rubicon was definitely it. I considered a 2 door but needed a little extra length for storage and camping in the Rubicon, with the rear seats laid down. And now, the fun begins!
Gotta love the short list intro, the music, Craig, everything is just on point!
As usual, your reviews are detailed , balanced and entertaining. Good Journalism. Keep up the good work.
No modern vehicle should leave you stranded on the side of the road...especially one that costs 50 grand. Wow.
is it because it has all these fancy gadgets? what I'm asking is...would the "entry" level models with less electronics/gadgets be more reliable?
it was a pre production model it normal to see these failures in pre production cars
I have jlu sport, no problems, greatest wrangler ever. I had the jku sport, its a dinosaur compared to the new jl. I test drove the jl hoping it would be a little bid better, i was wrong, its leaps better, faster, exc. than the jk. I look at other the jeep owners yj,tj,jk as the poor souls who have deal with the daily ruff and tough ride of those wranglers.
if jeep offered the JL diesel with the 6 speed then I would love to own one. but I heard they won't be. I like the new JL so much better then the JK but I can't give up my LJ nothing beats the good old 4.0
Jeeps tend to reject the CRV driver croud. It was a Christine moment.
This jeep gives a new meaning to term "Break-In" period
You made it easy to decide what I gonna buy. Thanks.
Very informative and hilarious.
Thanks!
I’m a Jeep owner. Love my Jeep and I think his commentary is hilarious and entertaining.
Omg lol can not wait until your 2019 review .😂😂😂
Welldone,good vid.thanks
Very informative👍🏼
I've had many different vehicles in the countries I have lived in, from many different makers and I can honestly say the my Jeeps and Toyotas have been the most reliable and funnest to drive.
I have a new ram Laramie and a 2018 JL they both drive and ride perfect
My JK vs JL comparison (for me, a 2 door Rubicon soft top)
My JL pros
-possibly the new 2.0 engine (I also like the Pentastar)
-8 speed transmission
-quicker throttle response
-soft top without ‘cross bar’
-soft top no zippers
-quieter soft top
-body color roll bar
-flat horizontal dash
-lighter/aerodynamic tweaks = better MPG
-real metal interior detail
-real hardware (not faux bolts) interior
-more inputs and other interior conveniences
-larger cup holders
-air vents for cooling under hood
-more rake in windshield (think rock damage)
-doors stay opened, and close better
-cabin is slightly longer
-doors remove easier/faster
-telescopic adjusting steering wheel
-bigger storage tub
-stronger and lighter tailgate
-better hood latches
-easier drain plug access (without needing to move carpet)
My JL cons
-auto start/stop (I know it can be disabled)
-the bumpers (front and back)
-front running lights on fender flare
-too much digital visual “noise” on dash
-rear camera (I know I can take it off - and I will)
-no hard drive in radio to store music (I liked that in the JK)
-the $ cost $
Great review...This looks like a great vehicle...Having said that, the more PFM, (Pure F$#@N Magic), in a vehicle, the more that can theoretically go wrong. My 2006 Jeep TJ lacks the electronic sophistication of the JL,, but after almost 13 years, everything still works like new...Very reliable...I'm hoping to get a JL diesel if it'll be available in a standard transmission.
THANK YOU! THIS ONE IS A STICK SHIFT!
If you guys made a short video showing that electrical problem it would be all over the internet. Couple million views easily
may I ask, what was the explanation for the "complete system failure" I own a 2018 jeep JL.
I keep going back to this video every time I get the urge to buy a Jeep.
Dang my 2017 did that. A lot. I traded it in and at 30K same issues Jeep. At dealer for 40+ days. I still got it and love it just extended warranty a must.
Wow! Thanks for posting truth.
I like this guy.
Good one.
And that's way I keep my 96 4runner , never let me down ,no computer crap and easy to fix
So what was the outcome of the breakdown? Did you get to the bottom of it? It would be nice to know, unlike some I'm interest to know as I'm still considering purchasing a JL Rubicon.
I bought the new 2018 Yukon XL Denali, needed a new transmission before I took delivery. Took it to Denver and back, no problems. I will do it again. I ordered the new JL with the new 2.0T wish me luck. Lol
The classic Craig is back!
The same exact thing happened to my 2017 Renegade Trailhawk when I was trying to leave work. The dealer said the LoJack alarm caused it possibly but it had done it on the way to LA once to
We hope you weren't stranded! Thanks for watching!
AutoGuide.com no I was able to reset it. It only did it a few time before the lemon law process completed. But I do sorta want another Jeep
Did you disconnect BOTH batteries? Don't forget the small one by the fire wall (for the auto start-stop feature)
I love his comical personality
I like this guy
I really wanted one before watching this
what was the results of the computer issue? that seems to be a recurring issue with these
I wonder if it was the secondary battery that killed it like that. The one that controls the starting and ESS
Would love too know what the issue was.?. I thought the same don’t buy first year production I bought my first Jeep Wrangler JK 4 door 2017 had the engine light come on 5 times for evap error before they got it fixed started at 800 miles . Then a new radiator at like 26,000 then heard a ticking noise driver side engine area especially when pulling up in drive ups. Jeep dealership Master Mechanic said it wasn’t the pen-star tic issue that was common in earlier years he assured me that there were some modification too the pen star v6 and that it was fine. Got worse and just around 35;000 I brought it back in and they said they would have to take apart engine that they believed lifter noise so I aloud and they replaced parts in both sides unsure what they replaced fortunately I have extended warranty tic isn’t as loud but still there no engine light though so I guess this is what Jeep life is all about lol.
I LIKE JEEP ,COOL
The AAA card should come standard with every JL.
Dam that means it best to look into the Scrambler next Xmas.
Aaaaaaand waiting for the 2019 model...
Love my JK. Why change the shift pattern?
I was actually going to buy a wrangler this weekend but now i want to wait until 2019 models release... Damn. I said to myself. "dont buy first model year new car." ended in early 2000s but i guess not...
Not sure if you bought one yet but I used to be the same way. You will not be disappointed. We got a Sport S Unlimited. With the V6 we are averageing just under 24MPG. Does awesome off-road (not as good as a Rubicon obviously). More comfortable than any Wrangler I've owned. The ONLY complaint I have is the steering. It has a definite "dead spot" that takes alot of getting used to. This is apparently a known issue and this one had the recall done to it already. If you've owned a Wrangler before you know none of them steer like anything else.
It appears there are two basic Wrangler model jeeps sold in 2018, the earlier JK which was sold to me by the local Bend dealer and the new JL.
That can happen to any car, especially a new model. I usually wait a few months after a new model release to make sure the manufacturer gets all the bugs out of the software. It just sucks when it is on the side of the road and no one is there to help you out.
GET THIS MAN A STEAK AND A BARBELL
I have a JL and it is a fine ride. Vast improvement over previous JK’s. Regarding the power failure, had a BMW that died the same way, it happens to all vehicles.
Bill Carfagno two of the most reliable car brands ever
My Merc failed me, and now my Audi too. I am waiting for the JL to be released in the UK...hopefully I won't end up with a dud, although, unlike Audi, Jeep seems to actually resolve the issues.
JK sill the best. Got 130,000 on my 09. The 3.8 with 6 angry squirrels still can’t get out of its own way but has been a most reliable engine.
Has just enough electrical bling to not be a pain in the ass and very easy to work on.
Lol never buy the first year new year model.
Can’t beat the Jeep Wrangler way of life in any model!
Greg Bisesi, had a 2010, it was good but nothing compared to the JL. Not a big believer in never buy version 1.0 of anything. You miss out on a lot of exciting new things.
It just shouldn't
I wish automotive reviewers were more thorough on their reviews. For instance, when he says this jeeps ride is more refined, he does not explain the changes that FCA made to make it more refined. He also did not mention the new tranfercase options or the upgrades made to the Dana 44's over the previous generation. Not saying he did not do a good review ,its just I want more. Also would have been nice to know what went wrong with the Jeep when it started freaking out. I have a 2004 Jeep Wrangler Sport that I bought new. It has never left me on the side of road in 14 years and 242,000 miles. Reliable is an understatement for the Jeep brand.
Im from Europe and i own a Grand Vitara... but i was thinking to change on Wrangler ! After talking whit my friends in car service places they told me that jeep wrangler is a good offroud suv whit *BAD* Electronic !!! Wow now i understand what they mean whit that !!!
Got to really love the thought of your electrical system going on the blink, when you might be far back in the woods off the beaten path. Not impressed with that dead vehicle failure. I wonder if disconnecting the battery for about 10 minutes might have helped?
That's was unsafe electronic message up. Think may be wrangler might not be a good option, nice video
I own a jeep wrangler and love it, but Chrysler needs to get a handle on their electrical issues and various other quality control gremlins. I happen to have an unlimited warranty but absent that I don't think it's a car I could recommend
Just bought a 2021 Rubicon. Can you elaborate on any issues you have had?
@@DUNEATV Sorry for the late reply but I had transmission issues where they couldn't identify it and then eventually it had to be rebuilt, I had a friend who had one that had electrical issues but luckily mine Is a bare bones Jeep without auto locks, Also had To replace the fuel pump. I think a lot of the issues have been resolved now but for the 1st 10 years of owning the car it was probably in the shop at least 12 times where Chrysler had to reimburse me and pay for my rental car. Think God for unlimited warranty
Is that common to only the V6?
The locking differential is excellent. Otherwise I wouldn't want a Rubicon because it is over priced. I wish they would offer locking diff in the sport model.
There is an error in this video at 5:39. Only the 4 Door Unlimited Models are rated for 3,500 lbs. Doors are just 2,000
So what was the problem after the car was repaired?
Can you tell us what exactly happened that caused the failure? From Jeep’s explanation? I think that is critical to know. Obviously the computer, etc, but why? Also, could it have been prevented? I’m thinking no, but just wondering
Those are what we call "The First Year Blues". I'd wait until the second model year before buying a new version of any vehicle.
Soooo... What's the reason why the JL Wrangler test unit got horribly wrong?
FCA didn't get back to me in time for this bit of news to make it into the video but according to them, water got into some of the vehicle's electronics. This was also a very early-build model, about No. 500 off the line.
Craig Cole that does not sound very off road worthy to me.
It happens to every other car manufacturers indeed. First year off cars are typically prone to various mechanical and electronics quality awes. However though, what really separates the tops quality brands from the others, including Jeep or FCA, is how they deal with the issues. They get right on it, investigate the cause, work with suppliers and fix it.
Bought a 4Runner TRD Pro last year...no computer glitches, no taking it back to the dealer for program updates, no problems whatsoever. 35000.00 well spent.
I've owned three TJ's and one JK, love them all, but I recently got a new one, and stayed away from the JL. Too many changes, crazy cost, and scary recalls. It's all improvements on paper,/marketing, but in real life, not what I want from what I consider a Jeep.
Craig, love your reviews, especially the subtle doses of sarcasm and humor. Has FCA let you know the diagnosis of your test Jeep? (Considering this... www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/05/the-jeep-wrangler-is-selling-like-gangbusters.html ) Hopefully it was just a one-off problem. Keep up the great reviews!
I just bought a jl but its running fine, what happen
To this jeep? Hope that doesn't happen to me!
Miss the old days when cars were mechanical, not computers on wheels.
I'd say the same about a phone... now a laptop in your pocket lol
I had the exact same thing happen to my 2008 JK!!! Except the horn was also going off during the light show, and the engine didn't die. Chrysler has awful electrical systems. Love the way the jeep looks, but it will be a long time before I consider another one.
I'm really surprised!
lol
I'm just wondering if you ever figured out what caused it to shut down
When roadside assistance arrived, what was the fix?
zalewskm They gave him a replacement Jeep while they tow the other one to their shop. You never know what caused it unless you call them back, which they probably didn’t. Even if they did, Jeep probably wouldn’t want to disclose that knowing Craig is reviewing the vehicle.
Actually, I spoke to Jeep PR and they told me water got into some of the vehicle's electronics.
good review...just one small thing, your wearing slip-ons(shoes) to review a jeep, in the cold wet weather??
Hence never buy a first year production model vehicle. It's always nice to have the latest one before everyone else but sometimes its just not worth the headache.
Yeah, so it was a new JLU Rubicon or 4runner TRD off road. Will be getting the 4runner
that's sooo heart breaking that new car $50-$60k dollar car with top reputation can leave u in the middle of the nowhere.
I dig the Eminem cosplay, Craig. Lose yourself.
This is why cars don't need to have everything computer controlled. Mechanical things do fail, that's life but they are easier to fix and most of the time you can hobble your way to the next exit.
Only 9 things just couldn’t think of one more. I’ll find a video with 10 things I need to know.
Check out the threads on Wrangler JL Forum. Track bar welds are separating, Jeeps are shutting down from electronics failures, steering columns are locking up, other steering columns have too much tolerance and are drifting. In addition, soft top hardware is being forgotten at the factory and dealers are having to order the missing parts, there is debris in paint, bunch of people had blatant paint runs going down full door length, aluminum door panels are coming warped from the factory leading to wavy paint appearances in sunlight, and white grilles are turning yellow after a few months exposure to UV sunlight. A TJ never looked so good. God help anyone who buys this POS in the first production year.
did they ever get back to you on what happened to it?
Jeep PR told me water got into some of the vehicle's electronics.
It was no big DILL that we had to wait for technical difficulties
Guess my TJ was the last true Wrangler.... Love the look of the JL and I am all about tech but for some reason companies can't maintain reliability (except Tesla). What a shame... Jeep is an American icon
Huh? JKs rock much better than TJs. I've own two of each.
Something else to note: apparently there has been some welding issues with the new JL.
Haven't heard of this. What sort of welding issue?
Craig Cole www.allpar.com/forums/threads/jl-wrangler-frame-issues.171395/
Happen to read about the issue on a 4Runner forum. Don't know if this is a wide-spread issue but something prospective buyers should be aware. At least I'd want to know if I were in the market.
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The level of complexity of the electronic systems on the latest automotive offerings across the board is excessive. We are at a point where vehicles are as electronically integrated as most aircraft. It's not uncommon to see a vehicle that won't start if the radio is stolen out of it, so think about the fact that many Wranglers can and do get rained in a few times in their lives and you come to realize that designers were asleep at the wheel. Imagine the peril you would be in if your Wrangler left you stranded in bear country because the body control module has a brain fart.
Man I live in the most northern metropolitan city in the world , and hunt all the time , I'd be so hesitant to take that into the Bush, in the middle of the canadian winter
That electronics meltdown... I'll wait till 2019.
There is a second battery in the trunk so the car didn't fully restart its computer. To do that push the start button then hold the brake and push start 3 times. That restarts the ECU and should relog.
Where are such pushbutton rituals documented?
so if your heep breaks down in the middle of nowhere which it probably will inevitably leave some people stranded. you can shave some metal off your tailgate if you have a good knife and start a fire to keep you warm with the magnesium shavings..
Or make a signal flare.
what was wrong with it? Is it a driver error?
Always keep emergency lights and Orange Cones in the back.
Did Jeep ever say what caused that issue on the black one?
Pleased to hear that you got “Phalanx” into this video.
FCA. That’s all that needs to be known.
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What was the verdict of that breakdown?
According to FCA, water got into some of the electronics, which is bad... obviously, LOL.
the moment a heard "dont f with the jeep wrangler" i subscribed
OMG
Just spelled out the level of quality FCA cars have.
What most reviewers fail to mention is the free rust you get with every NEW Wrangler 😂
Jershaun // also the rubber molding peeling off everywhere. A lot of the electrical problems was tracked down to a factory malfunctioning main computer that was downloading bad junk into the new vehicles causing a lot of customer rage.
When the systems failed. The thought of purchasing one. Was out of the door.
I'll keep my 2008.
Me too, 2009 Jk, this video makes me glad to own it.
Looks like a loose grounding cable.
Anyone remember the older Jeep's, Dodge, and Chryslers that had the electrical issues? Looks like the same issue, most of them had faulty fuse boxes (front control module) and they had a huge back order on new ones. Knowing that FCA still has the issue to this day would not stop me from buying a new Jeep though.
I wouldn't trust a brand that is so lazy it hasn't bothered to fix a long standing issue by your account. It makes one wonder is it lack of skill or just pure ignorance? Or perhaps they know that people like you would eat up whatever shit they make as long as it is a jeep lol