BLANCA & NEGRA Flamenco Guitars - Here’s the difference! - SOUND TEST
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- Опубликовано: 11 мар 2022
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Here is a clear difference of a Flamenco Blanca Guitar compared with a Flamenco Negra Guitar. While they might sound similar, they are extremely different.
Which one do you prefer?
Let me know!
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- LESTER DEVOE 1990 (Negra)
- Conde Hermanos 2000 (Blanca)
- Recorded with: SOLERA FLAMENCA STRINGS
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Here is a clear difference of a Flamenco Blanca Guitar compared with a Flamenco Negra Guitar. While they might sound similar, they are extremely different.
Which one do you prefer?
Let me know!
La de ciprés claramente
Negra guitar so smouth
Blanca sounds 100% flamenco.
If I have only one option then I would go for the negra
Depends what type of player you are, what you're playing and the mood you're in. Blanca is crisper but loses the note sooner. The negra has a deeper, more nuanced tone with extra sustain.
I would love to hear you compare your Lester to a good blanca from Francisco Sanchez/Pedro Muriel/Paco Rey/Jerónimo Perez... the extra sustain from their blancas would make the comparison even more interesting.
Guitar maker-Juan Miguel Gonzalez once said to me...that it's easier to find the love of your life than to find the guitar of your life.
To my ears; the Blanca is bright and brillant. The Negra is darker and brooding. The Negra sounds closer to a Classical guitar, to me.
Agreed. Fully.
Perfect. The shorter clips without gaps between them make it much easier to hear the difference, and the piece selection is very comprehensive. The best comparison video I have seen. Also, beautiful playing as always.
Blanca look like more aggressive, brilliant. I prefer it
Great as usual Luciano! It is a tricky balance between strings separation in (Blanca) vs more blend in (Negra). Blanca has a natural EQ to push the sound forward while keeping the strings sing individually but the price you have to pay for that is less sustain which requires more strokes & harder playing to keep the instrument ringing vs long sustain in Negras which translate to easier playing and big round sound but the price you pay for it is slower attack & mushy sound in varying degrees depending on the quality of the Negra. The main difference when it comes to type of wood used is that Blanca can be made of much lighter wood due to the stiffness of spruce & cypress vs Cedar tops in Negras which is not as strong as spruce and requires the top to be much heavier to handle the tension of strings. The heavier top in Negras has a slower attack time meaning it takes longer time to fully vibrate and longer time than Spruce to fully stops vibrating. Flamenco guitar has to be reasonably percussive which is the case in Blancas and hard to achieve in Negras.
What a great analysis
Thanks for the enlightening answer.
@@essamahmed9242 You welcome Essam!
Great explanation especially the thickness of the wood and why.
I agree with most of this. My only counter would be that many negras have spruce tops. This basically makes the Blanca va negra conversation about the depth/sustain allowed by the back and sides. I prefer the negra as an all around guitar that can be used for any style of music and sound beautiful no matter what music you are playing. I prefer Blanca’s for a distinctly percussive flamenco sound. Blancas record beautifully as well, since they lack a little bit of the sustain and depth to the low end.
@@ericmojave6061 I agree that the top Cedar vs Spruce is the biggest factor. Cedar is a brittle wood if it is cut very thin so the maker have to make the cedar top thicker for durability vs thinner spruce because spruce is harder wood and can take tension even when it is thin with the correct bracing and again when the top mass is lighter the top will respond faster and stops ringing faster too giving that dry fast and sharp attack. Cedar tops have more mass mean slower to respond and longer time to stop ringing ( physics) which translate to more round tone as there is more sustain and blending happens. Cedar/ negras can be used to more styles and easier to play in my opinion as some blancas NOT all require more energy flow to keep it ringing. I prefer spruce tops as all strings lyrical and raspy, responds way better to flamenco techniques. Starting flamenco using classical guitar with cedar top can make the progress very slow and stuff will sound not right with translate to more tension and confusion to student. I think Paco switched to Negras with spruce tops to get more round sound and sustain from darker heavier back and sides wood.
What a brilliant comparison, thank you Luciano! But I still cannot choose between them, I am just going to have to buy both...
Good way of editing! Much much better than other comparison videos!
Finally one of the most demanding videos...for sure this is the best video to sing out the difference
In brief the negra has a certain depth, clarity with more sustain in it's tone and the blanca is crunchy, dry but more open
I would love to own both and appreciate one or the other's tonal quality depending on the certain piece
This is a good problem to have. Keep both! Missing from the sound equation is playability. The feel you get from a guitar is sometimes just as important.
I have a Kenny Hill Blanca that I have had since 1994. It sounds ok to me but I honestly can't play it all day everyday. It sounds too harsh to practice with. I always use a Negra to practice with. It is more pleasing to the ears.
2:18 I listen to it every day.
i am a rock guitarist and i am so captivated by your right hand, i am not sure i could ever learn these techniques as i am left handed but learned to play guitar right handed so my right hand has never been particularly articulate
I like the Blanca most of the time. But the parts where the Negra does sound better, it is really really beautiful. Would be difficult to choose. Better have both I guess.
Best presentation by blending the two instantly ! Super idea and clear impression! Arigatou Luciano!
I prefer the blanca but....when you're playing both sounds great ;)
the back and forth at the end really made the devoe stand out
Negras have a bit deeper sound and bass strings have a deeper sound. As far as I've noticed bulerias, alegrias... are good on blanca and rondeñas, tarantas... are good on negra. Of course it is not strict, just an observation. Cheers, Luciano
La blanca suena más flamenca. Yo he probado las cuerdas solera flamenca, las de concierto y las "Alma" de Vicente Amigo y puedo decir que las knobloch suenan mucho mejor.
@Beluga QZ Nylon 34.0 y AZ Nylon Luna Flamenca.
One of my new favorite comparison videos. Thank you for that.
I think the best thing on the blanca is that the notes are very clear and bright
somehow a benefit on the otherside all inconsistencys are much more prensent to the ears :)
The Negra definitely sounds warmer. Beautiful playing
With you playing, both sound fantastic - but that Lester Devoe Negra is something else!
The blanca has a brighter sound along with more buzzing I guess!
Lovely test, I like the sound of the blanca more, the negra sounds darker, after listening to this over and over again I bought a negra to play along with the blanca I allready had.
Las dos guitarras suena muy bien la blanca más flamenca y la negra más polivalente a mi idea Luciano 😉
The blanca vs negra comparison often just turns into a comparison between 2 different guitars. A blanca that produces a profound round and focused fundamental note that also pushes a lot of air like vicentes reyes could be described as a negra, and a negra that's brash, stiff and doesn't really have air behind the pulsation could be described as a blanca. Haha
Es muy complicado!! Aveces la negra suenas más y aveces la blanca. Y viceversa. También. Tiene que ver la cómodas del brazo la medida del diapasón. Las cuerdas. Muchas cosas. Pero hey!!! Me encanta como tocas macho. Yo he tenido barias guitarras. Pero para mi la que no es cómoda mejor la vendo. Porque para que quiero una guitarra incómoda y cara si no la voy a tocar. Así sea una torres del 1890. No porque sea de torres y esté incómoda la voy a conservar. Buen video.
Beautiful, natural player, bravo 🌞🎶
Otherwise, this is the best video for comparison, houever, the Guitars are not made equally.... The Negra is much more 'in its' box' than the Blanca, which, to my ears, is a superior Guitar.... Perhaps the strings are duller on the devOe?
Probably finding the Best sounding versions of blanca & negra one can find, of course, all personal preference, then making a video comparison could give the most telling results....
Joyful discussion to have nonetheless!
Thankyou again Maestro.... "¡Duendé!" 💎🎶
Great video because the difference is very clear. Thanks a lot!
The trebles on the blanca has a clear, metallic ring. Very crisp with the short sustain. Very distinctive. Very flamenco to my inexperienced ears.
I like the Blanca more.
The blanca has pure flamenco sound. With the negras the things are more complicated. As people say the standard for negra is Conde, the others could be considered as classical guitars. I like how your sounds. Me personally have flamenco blanca guitar and cedar classical with golpeador. Of course my performance is far far far away behind from yours.
I have both and I love them both.
That DeVoe Negra has a deeper more sustaining quality sound But the Blanca is more dry and punchy very flamenco 💃 sounding!!!
Both very nice guitars 🎸
U meant..but the BLANCA is more dry
@@ym4919 Yes 👍
Yes, very "Flamingo" ;)
Luciano, Since you use the Lester Devoe guitar do you know who maestro Mariano Cordoba is? He was the Flamenco teacher who encouraged Lester Devoe to start building guitars. I also had lessons from Mariano back in the 1990's. Mariano's family posted some videos of him playing guitar on RUclips.
Las dos suena de maravilla Luciano !!!!! Pero he verdad que la blanca tiene esse sonido mas flamenco que nos gusta tanto a los flamenco
agree
@@sam.246 👍👍👍
Je viens de m’abonner à votre chaîne, car cette comparaison m’interroge…
Je possède une Camps Primera Negra, merveilleuse, qui me donne beaucoup de plaisir dans le Flamenco et dans le classique.
Cependant, je trouve et qu’il me semble qu’une bonne « Blanca », transmettra un son plus chaleureux, sans dénigrer la Negra, car c’est finalement 2 guitares que l’on devrait avoir , tellement elles sont différentes !
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Merci de votre retour…
for the flamenco music the white guitar is my favorite always....!!
Woooooooooow. Luciano took comparisons to a whoooole new level!!! 🔥
Great comparison 👍🏽 I would say the Media Luna has more brilliant and clear sound and fits better to bulerias or tangos. Is the Conde from Gravina workshop? I have one from 2005 and it sounds 100% like yours. For the DeVoe I would recommend you to try Aquila Rubino strings. I have tried the Solera Flamenca strings for my negra but Aquila sounds very balanced and definitely better! Furthermore if you slight over the fretboard within bass strings, with Aquila strings there is no background noise!
I agree about the Aquila Rubino strings, they are fantastic on my Felipe Conde Negra (FP14).
Which strings exactly you use?
No puedo elegir, y menos como las tocas tú que eres un genio!!! 😄😄
Blanca!
Sometimes you need a Blanca sometimes a Negra. But you always need a Guitar made in Spain.
arent the lester devoe made in america? :)
The negra sounds like im listening to the blanca but with water in my ears.
Not a bad thing, just the way i can describe it
Remember you can't compare any other guitars with Conde. The Blanca may not be a faustino like Paco owned but its still powerful in sound. The Negra sounds ok
One could also make the argument that DeVoes cannot be compared with any other guitars. IMHO the sound difference in this clip is mostly due to the difference in how Condes and DeVoe build as opposed to difference in woods.
@@hierroflamencoguitar3658 I agree, it would be interesting to compare a DeVoe Negra and Blanca or a Conde Negra and Blanca.
Blanca is like the voice of a happy teenager. Negra is like the mature voice of a man. So different.
Blanca ✌🏼😁
I prefer the blanca. please send her to this address...😊
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥mate thank you for this.. contemplating a negra even more already got the blanca
Love your beautiful arrangement❤️
Don't you hate how great players make it look so easy? No wonder you look so happy when you can play like that. I have a negra but also got into this playing both classical and flamenco, I've since dropped classical to dedicate my full attention to flamenco so now im looking for a blanca. I really prefer the blanca for flamenco, though the negra is great for granainas I would imagine. That said the negra is more versatile all around, great for other styles and maybe just plain Spanish guitar but the blanca for flamenco seems to be where its at.
The Blanca sounds only slightly brighter. Both sound amazing to me though!
Buena la comparación y los tangos de moraito hehe
Awesome playing thank you
interesting comparison, thank you!
I think you need to have both. But if you choose one of these, then Lester Devoe is a higher level instrument in my opinion. I also have negra and blanca, but my blanca (Jesus de Jimenez) is superior to my inexpensive negra (Burguet). That's why blanca is my main instrument. Btw, when will you do the Rio de la seda tutorial ? :)
Thank you for the comparisons. If one is a beginner, is it best to learn on a blanca or negra ?
King Luciano Grande Maestro
I perfer the Negra just because I like to play classical from time to time
It sounds like the action is very low on the blanca.
awesome video! thank you
For me the Blanca has a better crisper flamenco sound
excelente montaje!
Thank you!
Negra has it's place, but I prefer my blanca.
I clearly prefer the blanca here, in this context. The negra has a kind of nasality I don't like so much - that's how I hear it. But to be fair, between two different blancas or two different negras can be a bigger difference than between tese two here...
Yo para mí,la blanca
Blanca has the definitive flamenco Flavour
Бланка - огонь. Негра - вода . 🎉🎉
The Blanca sounds more flat and happier, I liked it ❤️
Buzzing and bright sound
I wonder why there are no guitars with two different woods comprising the top. German spruce or maple for the trebles, and maybe rosewood for the bass strings, and complementary bracing inside. Can there be a best of both worlds solution?
I would take a cedar top cypress over a negra flamenco.
Well, I have a couple of Negra's and a couple of Blanca's but sadly none of them do what these do 😥😆
🤔🤔🤔🤔 Hard call really I like both and of course your playing 🙌🏻❤️👏🏼👏🏼 . May I just say your videos get better each post what’s your secret??? Have you done a Robert Johnson and signed a deal 👺
Hay que tener una de cada😂
Y si son de esas mejor
Bueno y tu cual prefieres???
Blanca =flamenco😍😍😍😍
Negra =general 😍😍
For this video Blanca sounds more clear and has every single note sound detailed
Team blanca lol
Esoooooo! 🙂
Son guitarras que se usan de forma diferente aunque son flamencas. En lo personal, a mi me gusta ser guitarrista acompañante y me gusta el sonido de la guitarra negra porque el sonido entre graves y agudos es más equilibrado, es opaca y sus bajos suenan bien.
Claro que la guitarra blanca tiene lo suyo, el realce por los sonidos agudos y su brillo permiten hacer buenos solos y melodías fascinantes
Blanca briliante...
Negra cuz deeply sound
😊I’m 😮😅
ho o hoo perfecto
Ωραιος ήχος
Negra por favor 🙏🏼
Rule #1 of sound tests, TURN OFF THE REVERB.
Even a little reverb renders any tone demo or comparison completely useless, but my brotha you're swimming in it.
La negra suena muy apagada en los bordones y la blanca muy flamenca pero chillona
Maybe it is me, but these are utterly different guitars! The Negra is very very classical with a warm timbre and long sustain. The Blanca is, well, a seriously fiery flamenco guitar. I do not hear the similarity you claim they have. But maybe that's just me.
I can’t pick!
Just Negra Indian rosewood
Personalmente me gusta más la de ciprés. Pero esa Lester es un cañón... Yo creo que es cuestión de gustos. Son dos guitarrones
El sinido de la mas oscura parami es mejor
Negra wins
No tiene sentido compararlas,no están en la misma categoría,ni tres condes como esa hacen una Lester como la tuya,estoy seguro que ya te has dado cuenta que la Lester suena a Luciano y las demás no.
What is sound?
What is music?
What is chordophone?
What is guitar?
Why play guitar?
Why music has abcdefg notes and not something else?
What is 12 tone equal tempered scale?
How to correctly change guitar strings?
Why standard guitar is tuned a440 Or a5 pitch?
Can you create 3 months video content 15 mins per day from absolute zero knowledge to expert level guitar lessons.
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@@mackhomie6 lol
team negra!
la negra suena mejor