Actually he was discretely warning him that everyone in the bar was after his ass. The first phrases can be interpreted as: "Be careful. This is a bad time. You shouldn't be here". Tortuga didn't listen.
@@somerandomassguyontheinter2869 I doubt that philosopho doesn't mean the same in English, therefore it's not necessarily a bad thing in terms of wording
Earlier they translate that as “deep thinker.” It seems maybe they are implying that “deep thinker” and “big talker” are somehow related ideas. Or, they intentionally mistranslated it to make the subtitles more interesting than they otherwise would have been, because they didn’t want to reshoot the scene with a new script. Either way, it is a strange choice that they translated the same word in two such different ways.
@@syrinx114no, it's cuz Filosofo has a different meaning in spanish. u use it for someone who's a smartass and talkative, like a "philosopher" the connotation here is sarcastic. kinda hard to translate to english properly without it sounding unnatural
I think by philosopher he means, essentially, someone who thinks out loud. this is a way to call him a thinker, but the real point is to say you talk/snitch a lot.
There was so much red flags, the bartender requesting to be cautious when drinking, how Bolsa mentions tortuga being a Talker, forgetting the birthday yet already having a gift prepared in the back.
So, weird thing because Breaking Bad kinda translates stuff without accuracy, but he actually says "I missed your birthday last month". So that's why he has his "gift" in the back.
@@isabellejoestar2455 either way, having the gift prepared in a completely opposite place he came from is a major red flag, and even his mannerisms seem off.
Yeah, when I first watched this not knowing his fate, the bartender didn't raise my suspension. But then with Bolsa saying how he's so talkative, my senses started to go off. I called it that if he followed him he was dead
Yall know why Danny Trejo dies in almost every roll he plays? For specifically “bad guy” characters he plays, he asks that his character dies to show that a life of crime is not one to follow, and you will end up 6ft under
@@zvecarka yes he would. Because if he didn’t he’s dead either way. It’s the cartel. You can literally see the look on his face and in his voice. He’s clearly uncomfortable
He was clueless. The boss stroked his ego a bit and instantly had him eating out of his hand. That's why he was boss. The ability to read and manipulate people.
Honestly considering what the Cartel is known for doing to civillians that rat them out to the police, Let alone one of their own members, Tortuga got off easy. Was over in less than a momute.
@@TheGreatestDarn Rights. Kiki was t0rtured over a 30-hour period. They stabbed him in the head with a metal rod and broke his ribs. Tortuga got off easy.
Saw a guy get his arms broken in multiple place with a bat and then two dude holding them by the hands and shaking them like noodles until he passed out from the pain.
Not necessarily in on it, they're just not going to risk doing anything about it, especially for a guy they don't care about. It's cartel business, for everyone else "working in the dirt" isn't so bad after all.
Like the other guy said, if I'm a poor worker from town barely making ends meet, and I jst heard a cartel execution take place, I'm not gonna say anything What I gonna do go to the cops? They paid off. Feds? They're family of the cartel!
“You’ve got such a way with words, they flow like a waterfall” This guy dropped so many hints throughout this conversation that he was going to kill him lol
I really liked Juan Bolsa's character and he makes for an interesting contrast compared to the rest of the cartel. He's not unhinged, he doesn't revel in bloodshed, he's not outwardly intimidating, he's just straight business and pragmatism. He would have made a better leader than Don Eladio.
I never understand how people think Tortuga knew he was about to be iced the entire time, you can very clearly see the moment he freaked out when he read "Hola DEA"
I live everything about this scene. The tortoise (the actual animal) is so adorable. Danny Trejo doesn't even have to be the best actor in the world, he just has this... aura, that makes me just go "holy crap it's Danny Trejo".
@@iambuhlockay8007 I'm not certain if he has murdered anybody but he absolutely has maimed and seriously injured a couple of people. According to his wiki he glassed a sailor and hit a prison guard with a rock.
@@xxhitmanxx6097 From what we saw yeah. The twins were out in Mexico doing their thing, they pretty much took out a whole crew by themselves (and Nacho)
Not a good time to lose one’s head. That’s not how you get ahead in life. He should have been more headstrong. He’ll never head up a major organization.
The problem was that he didn't get a heads up. That's why he failed to see this coming ahead of time. He shouldn't have been so pigheaded to the DEA. And it might've helped if he headed to another State or even country after crossing the cartel. He didn't keep his head cool enough for that.
Lo que se me hace raro es que Bolsa, en Breaking Bad habla un español muy natural, pero en Better Call Saul si se le siente el acento, no lo habla tan bien como en la primera serie
Apenas y habla español ese señor machete pero igual esta buena la escena . El siempre dice que lengusta que me den la interpretación del "chico malo " para que vean como terminan siempre y tiene razon .
They usually drugged you up to keep you awake, skin parts of your body, remove others and break bones while filming everything with a crappy cellphone, everything with some music like funky town. It can last for more than half an hour of agony. He got it really easy.
In spanish isn't sounds menacing and isn't that obvious he was gonna be murdered, they translated talker with filósofo, should be hablador or boca floja, sounds more like being a rat than filósofo.
You should have listened to The Godfather Kevin Samuels before marrying her and maybe you would have picked an FBI woman (feminine, beautiful, inspiration) and submissive.
“Don’t you have something to deliver, cutting it close aren’t you?” Tortuga’s facial response after Bolsa said that made him think for a brief sec that he may have found out about him snitching to the DEA
I see, he’s called Tortuga because his train of thought is stalled at the station. Bum should have made for the hills the minute he heard “Words flow like a waterfall”.
@@kentmorris1831 I get it, he’s a turtle and he’s not fast. But as Bolsa said, there’s good deaths and there’s being beheaded with a fuckin’ kitchen knife. So he could have atleast tried to go out….Not like a meme.
Ohhhh, I never got that at the beginning he says that he never took him for a philosopher, and at the end he dedicates the Tortoise to him as the grand philosopher, the big talker. What a great double entendre in spanish
It would have been really akward if at first the tortoise didn't turn the right way for Tortuga to read the words. *The twins get into the back* Bolsa: "hold up guys, not yet" Twins: come on... Bolsa: "almost there, wait I'll make it turn to the left"... Tortuga: "what are you assholes playing at here?" Twins: "we told you this was stupid, you kill him we'll go get some booze."
the bartender was probably going to warn him there were 2 bad guy heading his way, but he remembered he only serves drinks.
Respect goes a long way
He knew not to interfere with Bolsa and the Salamancas. Plus he was being a dick
Actually he was discretely warning him that everyone in the bar was after his ass. The first phrases can be interpreted as: "Be careful. This is a bad time. You shouldn't be here".
Tortuga didn't listen.
He did try to warn him
The German says to wait here
Getting his head removed is a subtle hint that the mafia boss is very angry with Tortuga. Great writing!
Bravo David Chase
Vrabo Bince!
yes mafia boss in mexico
Funniest breaking bad fan:
Very allegorical.
For those having a hard time to read it, the writing says 'Hola DEA' referring to him snitching on the cartel to the DEA.
This is what I was looking for lol! Thank you
as soon as he said “big talker” i knew it was wraps for bro
Thanks, bro. I couldn't read the word after "HOLA". Now I know.
@@somerandomassguyontheinter2869 your words they flow like a waterfall
@@somerandomassguyontheinter2869 I doubt that philosopho doesn't mean the same in English, therefore it's not necessarily a bad thing in terms of wording
The Rock: you cannot kill me or humilliate me in my movies or shows i appear in
Machete: Go wild with me, Vince
Machete's job is just getting murked every single time lmao
IIRC Dany stated that he would not play the part of a criminal or villain unless the character was unalived
Also wasn't The Rock unalived in that DOOM movie from 2005?
@@monomono9627 *killed
Don't be a censorship simp. This isn't tiktok
@@monomono9627That was before he got popular enough to demand his character never loses, he was also offed in the scorpion king.
Being the “Tortoise” he was too slow to get his pistol out.
That's because the twins grabbed it.
@@ParaDox-xb3qw 🤦🏻♂️Jesus. Because he was too slow…Because he’s called the “Tortoise”….Because tortoises are slow. Get it now?
@@ParaDox-xb3qw Whoosh!
@@alexshank1414 lol!!
That's because the twins grabbed it
He should have realized sh*t was about to hit the fan when Bolsa said "Your words flow like a waterfall"
he kinda did but was like naaa no way
He did. Could you not tell he was nervous the entire time? All he could do was play along since he wasn’t 100% sure he was caught.
he should have realized as soon as bolsa said "I knew i could find you here" or "don't you have something to deliver?"
Dude boss of mafia give a present in your birthday when you are in mafia?
why was he killed? was it because he was snitching to the DEA?
He doesn’t say “for the big talker” he says “for the philosopher”
Earlier they translate that as “deep thinker.” It seems maybe they are implying that “deep thinker” and “big talker” are somehow related ideas. Or, they intentionally mistranslated it to make the subtitles more interesting than they otherwise would have been, because they didn’t want to reshoot the scene with a new script. Either way, it is a strange choice that they translated the same word in two such different ways.
@@syrinx114 Philosopher for the W.
@@syrinx114he’s talking about the part where Bolsa was writing on the tortoise. Some of the translation in the series is off
@@syrinx114no, it's cuz Filosofo has a different meaning in spanish. u use it for someone who's a smartass and talkative, like a "philosopher" the connotation here is sarcastic. kinda hard to translate to english properly without it sounding unnatural
I think by philosopher he means, essentially, someone who thinks out loud. this is a way to call him a thinker, but the real point is to say you talk/snitch a lot.
There was so much red flags, the bartender requesting to be cautious when drinking, how Bolsa mentions tortuga being a Talker, forgetting the birthday yet already having a gift prepared in the back.
So, weird thing because Breaking Bad kinda translates stuff without accuracy, but he actually says "I missed your birthday last month". So that's why he has his "gift" in the back.
@@isabellejoestar2455 either way, having the gift prepared in a completely opposite place he came from is a major red flag, and even his mannerisms seem off.
Yeah, when I first watched this not knowing his fate, the bartender didn't raise my suspension. But then with Bolsa saying how he's so talkative, my senses started to go off. I called it that if he followed him he was dead
Yall know why Danny Trejo dies in almost every roll he plays? For specifically “bad guy” characters he plays, he asks that his character dies to show that a life of crime is not one to follow, and you will end up 6ft under
Yeah, he was a real-life criminal, the consequences taught him a lesson to teach others not to do that same road.
Soon as he said “I have a present” he knew he was dead
Yeah but it's your Jefe, what are you gonna do, say no?
Yup should have capped the boss when he was walking behind him into the back room and then taken his chances getting out of there
If he knew it, he wouldnt even step there 💀
@@zvecarka yes he would. Because if he didn’t he’s dead either way. It’s the cartel. You can literally see the look on his face and in his voice. He’s clearly uncomfortable
He was clueless. The boss stroked his ego a bit and instantly had him eating out of his hand. That's why he was boss. The ability to read and manipulate people.
Tortuga is another original character that will be remembered fondly
No😂
No
fir his LA Tacos?
ai?
He will be in my HEAD for a long time
Honestly considering what the Cartel is known for doing to civillians that rat them out to the police, Let alone one of their own members, Tortuga got off easy. Was over in less than a momute.
That was because of the old times
@@discierneenot at all. Back then they would do just as bad😊
@@clursunny
Indeed.
Ask Kiki Camarena.
@@TheGreatestDarn Rights. Kiki was t0rtured over a 30-hour period. They stabbed him in the head with a metal rod and broke his ribs. Tortuga got off easy.
Saw a guy get his arms broken in multiple place with a bat and then two dude holding them by the hands and shaking them like noodles until he passed out from the pain.
I love the fact everyone in that bar was in on it.
Not necessarily in on it, they're just not going to risk doing anything about it, especially for a guy they don't care about. It's cartel business, for everyone else "working in the dirt" isn't so bad after all.
Si se involucran estan los hermanos para que recapaciten
Like the other guy said, if I'm a poor worker from town barely making ends meet, and I jst heard a cartel execution take place, I'm not gonna say anything
What I gonna do go to the cops? They paid off. Feds? They're family of the cartel!
This bar is known for people losing their heads. Happens like every second or third day.
They're just minding their own business.
I love how danny trejo is still making memes about this to this day.
Apparently its a near and dear trope to his heart that the villain meets a bad end.
@@d00mg4zeword, he doesn't want to glorify crime, that's why U can't see him in any movie with it where he gets away
@@Pitabrot Or game.
RIP to the tortoise.
That wasn't a tortoise, that was a toad
Takes "shell shocked" to a whole new level doesn't it
@@youtube.commentatorThe Tortoise was also punished…just being
Have a feeling he knew Juan Bolsa was there to ice him when he mentioned the birthday gift.
@@TomboyRespector I am very smart and cool, my mom says so
@@IamPinheadyer maws a dirty mate.
Even before that, he was showing subtle signs of suspicion. Or he was at least not 100% comfortable with the boss suddenly showing up.
“You’ve got such a way with words, they flow like a waterfall”
This guy dropped so many hints throughout this conversation that he was going to kill him lol
Machete gets macheted
You meant: machete fue macheteado hahaha
Brilliant
I was looking for this comnent 😂
Exactly haha
I really liked Juan Bolsa's character and he makes for an interesting contrast compared to the rest of the cartel. He's not unhinged, he doesn't revel in bloodshed, he's not outwardly intimidating, he's just straight business and pragmatism. He would have made a better leader than Don Eladio.
I never understand how people think Tortuga knew he was about to be iced the entire time, you can very clearly see the moment he freaked out when he read "Hola DEA"
There’s an argument to be made that tortuga had his suspicions, calmed down when he saw the tortoise, then knew again when he saw the writing.
I live everything about this scene. The tortoise (the actual animal) is so adorable.
Danny Trejo doesn't even have to be the best actor in the world, he just has this... aura, that makes me just go "holy crap it's Danny Trejo".
It helps that he looks like he could have killed someone in the past.
@@iambuhlockay8007 I'm not certain if he has murdered anybody but he absolutely has maimed and seriously injured a couple of people. According to his wiki he glassed a sailor and hit a prison guard with a rock.
The brothers confirmed in an interview that the beheading was improvised, it just felt right considering Tortuga's DEA connection
Never go in the back room
That's what she said.
but then how will you ever get deals done?
Acting like he had a choice. If he would've said no he would've been killed too
The twins are ruthless until lalo comes into the picture. I know this is beforehand tho
All Salamancas were ruthless
@@GoGetYourShinebox I know that but lalo caused more havoc
@@xxhitmanxx6097 From what we saw yeah. The twins were out in Mexico doing their thing, they pretty much took out a whole crew by themselves (and Nacho)
@@GoGetYourShinebox yea I remember that part at that big ass shootout
Lalo died before BB. Unless that’s what you mean this is “beforehand”
I respect the BCS team for not forcing BrBa cameos. But I also kinda wish we got a Tortuga appearance in BCS.
I always laugh when the guy is asked why he's in this burro's asshole of a town and he says because I knew I'd find you here. Ha! 1:45
Not a good time to lose one’s head.
That’s not how you get ahead in life.
He should have been more headstrong.
He’ll never head up a major organization.
Ok Austin.
Hold your head high, Champ!
The problem was that he didn't get a heads up.
That's why he failed to see this coming ahead of time.
He shouldn't have been so pigheaded to the DEA.
And it might've helped if he headed to another State or even country after crossing the cartel.
He didn't keep his head cool enough for that.
He fell head over heels with ratting out his boss.
@@keithrobin6566 Yup, that's what necked him.
Little known fact: Danny Trejo actually consented to having his head removed. The scene with his head on the turtle is his real head. 😂
You mean it's a real cut head 💀
Thats why he is an awesome actor. He puts his heart and soul (and his head in this case) into his roles!
vrabo bince
@@alfonshedstrom9859Actually it's bravo lol
No CGI right there
Wish Tortuga was in more episodes but his role was great. Seems the bartender tried to warn him.
This character deserved more screen-time.
He did get one more scene after this actually
@@Naxhus2in Better Call Saul?
3:58 poor cigar going to waste 😭
Bartender knew it all....
The turtle rolled the text just at the right momentbfor the twins to come inside
I thought of that, imagine if it stayed put, because animals do that sometimes
@@kingofawesomeness5375the boss just awkwardly turns it a little for the sake of the dramatic reveal.
3:10 Bro thinks he's Walter White
Funny how Machete got killed by a machete
no that’s tortuga
@@pannikattk8106 he was referencing a movie that starred danny
@@pannikattk8106 no this is patrick
1:39 Gandalf 😂😂
Alan Moore
Bro has now made it to where I can never look at this scene the same again
We would see him again in deadpool
Gandolfo
your presents out back, ah yes I'll go out back, nothing bad ever happens out back.
Lo que se me hace raro es que Bolsa, en Breaking Bad habla un español muy natural, pero en Better Call Saul si se le siente el acento, no lo habla tan bien como en la primera serie
Apenas y habla español ese señor machete pero igual esta buena la escena . El siempre dice que lengusta que me den la interpretación del "chico malo " para que vean como terminan siempre y tiene razon .
That’s a waste of 2 very nice suits. Do you think their employer reimburses for blood stains?
Theyre rich dumbass wtf
Just don't wait too long and wash with cold water, the blood stains will be gone.
Ratting on the cartel? He's lucky he got off so easy.
Still brutal though, he lived his last moments in fear and had his head cut off.
Furthermore, his head led to the deaths of three men.
They usually drugged you up to keep you awake, skin parts of your body, remove others and break bones while filming everything with a crappy cellphone, everything with some music like funky town. It can last for more than half an hour of agony. He got it really easy.
@@ThurimHammer-op3xd source: "trust me bro, i know the cartel and I play cod"
The real cartel prob woulda skinned him alive
@@ggoog1845 reports are all over the internet my guy
I think I have to watch that series in its entirety again.
Those of you who don’t know Spanish, you guys are missing the full context of the conversation. The translation is 75% accurate.
si
Well? What's the 25% we're missing then?
@@generalbutterscotch4887 taco bell plugs.
I don’t know how they translated “filosofo” using “talker”
In spanish isn't sounds menacing and isn't that obvious he was gonna be murdered, they translated talker with filósofo, should be hablador or boca floja, sounds more like being a rat than filósofo.
Putting his head on a turtle was so clever. Amazing writing. Vlago, Brinks.
them twins are ruthless.....a lot like my wife
ayo
What a battle axe.
Except you only get one
Um
You should have listened to The Godfather Kevin Samuels before marrying her and maybe you would have picked an FBI woman (feminine, beautiful, inspiration) and submissive.
At 0:52 is wallet clip is actually a turtle shell. Pretty funny .
They knew what they were doing when they offed Dany Trejo with a machete
I see, he’s called Tortuga because his train of thought is stalled at the station.
When HE catches you…3:51.
They made the first chop seemed pretty real, the way the head moved and the sound. Damm! 😅
"Alright so you fellas wait outside until I paint the word on the tortoise"
First rule of the cartel: if your boss is all friendly with you without any reason, run the fuck away.
imagine he actually managed to pull out his gun and he shot the twins and bolsa
bravo vince
Didnt realize how bad "Machetes" Spanish was.. dang.
All Spanish spoken on this show was pretty bad.
2:12
"I like the way you talk, Tortuga."
"Yeah?"
*narrows his eyes*
"siiiiii...."
How Ironic that Danny Trejo Character in this Show was Killed by a Machete considering that was His Namesake from His Movie.
"Listen to him. He can teach you something.". Well that is the point of making an example of someone
“Don’t you have something to deliver, cutting it close aren’t you?”
Tortuga’s facial response after Bolsa said that made him think for a brief sec that he may have found out about him snitching to the DEA
I see, he’s called Tortuga because his train of thought is stalled at the station.
Bum should have made for the hills the minute he heard “Words flow like a waterfall”.
And go where? He knows the boss would not come to this town alone.
@@kentmorris1831 I get it, he’s a turtle and he’s not fast. But as Bolsa said, there’s good deaths and there’s being beheaded with a fuckin’ kitchen knife. So he could have atleast tried to go out….Not like a meme.
To be honest, he was pounding shots at the start of the scene so he's most probably pretty drunk already
He crawls like a turtle
He thinks like a turtle
He has a little turtle mind.
Careful
Or maybe you get stepped on like a turtle.
Biggest sin of Better Call Saul was not bringing back Tortuga.
One of the most brutal scenes in breaking bad.
After seeing him get knocked out like that I can’t look at him as the badass Mexican no more 😂😂
You’ve got to love the classic Mexican-style heavy sarcasm. The friendly joking around.
That scene gave me nightmares, I'm not gonna' lie.
Poor Tortuga
"I keep thinking I should write a book"
"Maybe, maybe..."
lmao
This is truly the scene where Tortuga becomes a severed head strapped to a tortoise.
After i watched this, i said, "Oh boy, i have to watch this show. Mannn i was right
I hope he's ok
Hay dos clases de hombres en este mundo. Los que toman, y los que sirven. Cállate y llena mi copa!
See that second tequilla didn't hurt him at all 😂
The scene where they cut his head off was perfect symbolisim of when they cut his head off.
Most men can't help but brag about what they do. But you should not brag to the DEA what you do.
bro was slammin those shots i would've threw up, i hate drinking lol
Hot drinks in a hot muggy bar with no air conditioning, i would have thrown up just sitting in there.
never mix your drinks too, only drink the same thing
@@komodo420.If you have a weak stomach maybe
@@komodo420.is that even remotely true? I dont drink so I dont know, but it doesnt really make any sense to me
I rarely drink, but I can drink like a fish and never get hungover or throw up.
This is the moment where Tortuga says chechulala, and Bolsa replies *excelente*
Trejo always plays a good bad guy!
Ohhhh, I never got that at the beginning he says that he never took him for a philosopher, and at the end he dedicates the Tortoise to him as the grand philosopher, the big talker. What a great double entendre in spanish
To the island of tortuga!
After it all, he was too slow to draw the pistol.
Tortuga may be slow, but fastest die
“For the big talker” sounded like “Par La grand filosopho” (the grand philosopher) (idk Spanish it just sounded like that)
"What? You've never seen a human head glued to a turtle before? "
It’s crazy how tame this is to what the Cartel actually does to Rats.
They do the exact same thing
@@yunusgokcen174he means torture
@@yunusgokcen174they torture you first.
Tortuga was close to saving himself.
I just know his soul left his body he heard his present was “back there”
Fired with a Lifetime Severance
Tortuga moved slow , just because he didnt have to move for nobody
this is the moment the tortoise became leonardo
It would have been really akward if at first the tortoise didn't turn the right way for Tortuga to read the words.
*The twins get into the back*
Bolsa: "hold up guys, not yet"
Twins: come on...
Bolsa: "almost there, wait I'll make it turn to the left"...
Tortuga: "what are you assholes playing at here?"
Twins: "we told you this was stupid, you kill him we'll go get some booze."
This was the coldest scene ever period.
Damn if anyone had a grudge to kill the tortoise guy it waa thr bartender!!! Dude was outta pocket with his 2 kinds of people story
1.5 minutes of unskippable ads? Yeah no thanks
This was the moment Tortuga became Tortuga
At least they didn't kill him slowly.
Cigar & Mezcal, perfect combination.
Oof, poor tortoise has more pyramiding on his shell than Egypt.
Tortuga did win, in the end. He's in a better place - wherever he his, he's away from all the trials and tribulations of a lawless wasteland desert
The tortoise doesn't even know whats going on
Funniest scene of the tortoise and his head blowing up i didn't expect it at all