@@lazzledazzle7827 indeed, but with a gentle application of the aetheric crown and some aggressive headgear switches wabam Infinite dead guy pick me ups.
Facts With steed stone, deathbrand armor, a mixed level up choice of mp/hp/stamina and the anniversary edition backpack i have 560 carry weight and I can still only kill about 2 dragons and loot a few dungeons before I have to go back to my house and dump stuff, or call on my dremora merchant to sell my enchanted gear
The weightless armor from Steed Stone does have another great benefit - your armor doesn't impede stealth. It basically lets you skip spending perks on that entire half of the heavy armor tree if you're interested in being a heavy armor stealth character.
From both this and his racial abilities ranking I get the feeling he doesn't actually understand how spell absorption works. It doesn't just regenerate your magicka. It also prevents the incoming spells from doing any damage. So the Atronach stone gives you a 50% chance of any incoming spell regenerating your magicka instead of doing you damage.
He also forgot to mention the big downside that summoner players will have as spell absorption seems to work on your summons so you try to summons a dremer lord the spell absorption be like ....nope no minion for you but here's a casting cost refund....but sometimes it's not a full refund it's just 95% refund so if you spam trying to get it to work you will be out of mana and still no minion
@@lowgrav5900 Apprentice stone is better for a conjuration build anyways. No problems with spell absorption and the double magicka damage doesn't matter either because you're not supposed to take damage with that build, your summons are supposed to tank everything.
The Shadow Stone becomes completely obsolete with one of the nightingale powers, which is a lot better than plain invisibility because it doesn’t get interrupted by every little thing
3:40 The Steed Stone is God tier for one reason, the no weigh Armour is unlimited. For example, If you have 20 Steel Shields, weighing 300 carry weight, if you equip the steel shields, ALL weigh 0
Lover's stone is good but does have one HUGE!! downside in that if it is active then you can not get any rested bonus (basically the stone is just the lover's comfort resting bonus) That being said the aetherium crown can be used to get both (actually 3, if you include one of the guardian stones) by equipping the crown (with the lovers stone stored in it) after getting the rested bonus
The Lover Stone should be below the Warrior, Mage, and Thief stones. The Lover Stone does not stack with the effects given from resting. And you can get Lover's Comfort from being married - no stone needed.
If you get the Aetherial Crown and stick the Lover's Stone on it, then you can take it off right before you sleep, get whatever level of XP bonus is usually blocked, and then stick it back on when you wake up. Combined with one of the other experience stones and you have just gotten 2 levels of general XP boost and one extra level for a specific build.
I understand why you put the "faster skill gain" stones so high but technically they can be easily considered the worst ones. They just let you level up faster, they don't give you any direct bonuses. So if your goal is to level up as fast as possible they're obviously the best choice but if it isn't then they're literally useless. The Atronach stone is also incredibly busted, it can basically make you immortal; no other stone even comes close in terms of power. I understand that these are just your opinions but opinions can and should be challenged
@@zeroone8800 I'd argue that the atronach stone should be used asap because it allows you to quickly have 100 Spell Absorption which means immunity to spell damage (also includes dragon shouts and similar effects), immunity to disease aswell and with a neat easy trick it also means having infinite magicka. The power of the atronach stone is unrivaled in this game. I'm not saying that other stones are useless but the atronach stone is THE ONLY one that allows you to completely break the game and become almost invincible at an early level
I agree 100%. To me the "faster skill gain" stones are meaningless, because the world, including all enemies, level with the character. It just makes all enemies stronger, faster. The atronach stone seems strange, but once you have 100% spell absorption, Overpowered gets a new meaning.
@@zoroasper9759 If you use summoning spells without the unofficial patch, the Atronach stone affects them (most of the time they just fizzle), so if you're not on a version that allows modding and have that specific playstyle it's not as good. Still pretty good though.
The tower stone has another benefit in which any building you enter doesn't count as trespassing, I like to use that to avoid the "you're not supposed ot be here" moments.
Really? Does this really work? I have been wondering if it was possible to play the game with no crime so everything the game tracks on the crime tab is off the board Do you think it's possible?
Ritual stone with ahzidal ring of necromancy is awesome. Reanimate 10 people and they all will explode when take damage. And if you also have artherium crown you can do that infinite times. Best way to play civil war quests
The Ritual Stone deserves to be MUCH higher. Maybe even no. 1. It grants you ability to maintain an army of undead of limitless size. And, extremely important, these undead do not turn to ash once defeated or expired! Which means, you cannot loose them, which means your undead army can only grow. With the DLC dwemer crown (i forgot its name) you can use the ability whenever you want and you do not have to wait 24h. That's insanely good. It makes you a god of undead with 0 magical knowledge. You can dress up in Radiant Raiment outfit, never level up, stick your left index finger up your arse and conquer Tamriel on Legendary difficulty.
@@KaimArgonarEyyyy if I’m playing as a mage the crown doesn’t count as armour so you can combine it with the mage armour perk in alteration so crown + lover + mage stones
Ritual Stone stored in the Aetherial Crown lets you raise your undead army as many times a day as you want. Just unequip/equip the Crown, and it's like a day passed.
The Ritual Stone is how I deal with Kematu and his men. Used it on Legendary and Master difficulty and they went down without getting a single hit on me. Steed stone is my main, though, since I wear heavy armor and carry far too many weapons lol. Another great video, thank you.
Honestly, the Atronach and the Lord Stone are, imo, tied for the best. The Lover Stone is great for early game, in order to level some skills, but I think that you should eventually replace them based on playstyle. The Atronach Stone can be combined with other sources of Magic Absorption to allow you to become immune the magicka damage. Combine this with both enchantments to lower spell costs and the Ash Guardian spell (without a heartstone) and you don't need to worry about your own magicka pool either. The Lord Stone just gives extra protection on top of what your armor already does, which makes it great for various builds. I'd list a stone to help stealth builds, but the stealth archer really does not need a stone to become broken. using the Aetherial Crown and choosing both the Atronach and the Lord Stones? Absolutely great for many builds. The magic protection from the Lord Stone won't be useful in this case, but the extra AC is. Of course, there are some glitches with the Aetherial Crown that makes other stones (Ritual Stone) broken, but I question if we should consider glitches or not when ranking.
I’m basic. As soon as I think I can survive the odd Ice Wraith or Sabre Cat, I beeline it to the Lord Stone. Then I do the Book of Love quest. 40% magic resist for the rest of the game, 65% if Breton. Mages and dragon breath attacks stop being an issue. Of course, enchanting can do this better, but only after you’ve grinded up the skill, and I personally avoid smithing and enchanting until lategame.
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 I tend to go all into Alteration get the Atronach perk and all three ranks of magic resist as well as stability. Combine it with the "Book of Love" the Atronach stone and one peace of magic resistant gear. And you're set with 80+ spell absorption and magic resist.
3:56 Incorrect, it's not EXACTLY the same as far as I recall how the Conditioning Perk works. The Steed Stone allows you to carry a million steel armor in your inventory without being encumbered for example. Because you're wearing the armor any duplicate armor also weighs nothing.
@@cobaltchromee7533 No that doesn't matter; so long as the base item is the same. So me wearing steel armor of health for example? I can also carry 1 million steel in armors. Enchantments don't matter
@@JamesMerlaut Ah, that is actually broken. But really, only useful when you're wearing some low level armor, no enemy is going to wear stalhrim, right?
I actually think the Tower Stone is quite useful, in fact it’s always the first stone that I pick with a new character. Yes it becomes pretty useless at higher levels, but I personally like to use it to don’t accidentally level up lockpicking in the early game and still get good loot from chests. Afterall, the enemies level with you and you don’t want to be wasteful when playing on legendary.
The steed stone in amazing for all my build in the early game. Having more carry weight is never bad, especially when you use the heaviest armor possible, having equipped apparel weight negated is extremely helpful, and it’s beautiful to not see my stamina bar drain instantly when I run in heavy armor. But once you get high enough pick pocket and light/heavy armor, you can achieve the same affect with Extra Pockets and Conditioning/Unhindered perks. Which honestly makes the stone itself even better, because it can carry you a long way and then be replaced so you don’t have to keep crutching on it.
Well I'd put Atronach over Lord simply because Spell Absorption is busted. But I get it, if you don't build SA, then it's better to have a more reliable Magic Resistance that will always protect you than 50/50 OHKO/NoDmg
I love pairing atronach and lord with aetherial crown, you get all the immunities in the world, and paired with basic enchanting, you can hit the cap really fast
The Apprentice stone is the best because using magic especially at a low level is such a pain you're always out and you don't need to be fighting another magic user like with the Atronach stone.
Plus, other thing with the tower stone is that, if you have the anniversary edition, the spell Fenrik's welcome does EXACTLY THE SAME THING for just a few magicka and with invisibility.
I would not have ranked the lovers stone so high. It would be one of lowest, together with the three specific ones. The reason is quite simple: leveling up is just not interesting. The world levels with you. In my humble opinion, the most interesting stones are those that grant you special moves that are unique. Followed by the non-unique ones and powerful buffs to your build and then at the end the leveling stones. The ritual is the most unique and interesting action you can get. So I would have ranked it highest. Shadow, Tower and serpents special abilities can be achieved on other ways. The skeleton key is just plain better than the tower. As well as the skill that makes your picks unbreakable. The serpent can be substituted with paralyzing poison if you want. And stealth is so powerful without being invisible, you really do not need shadow. So in the end, they are less interesting than the buffs and even the leveling stuff. so they are lowest imho. The buffs are build dependant and mostly not really comparable. So for me: Ritual>buffs>leveling>shadow,tower,serpent. But Maybe I just love hunting for unique abilities :) And I am currently playing a level 1 playthrough and collecting powerful abilities that "outweigh" my level is just fun. Did you know that the werewolf talent tree does not make you level up? You can be level one but a masterwerewolf^^ Also Shouts! Finally usable as main weapon (well if you use the amulet and blessing of talos together with the patched morokai mask and the dragonform shout -> -80% recharge time.
PSA: Spell Absorption completely negates the incoming damage of spells it absorbs! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when the Atronach Stone and Bretons' Dragonskin power are so underappreciated. The Atronach's permanent 50% chance to negate magic damage is already by far the most powerful defensive effect in the game; that it also recharges your own magicka is a cherry on top. The extra 50 magicka is also very appreciable for much of the early-mid game, and itself more than counter-balances the minor reduction to regen rate for most characters (the only exception possibly being early-game Destruction mages). Consequently the Atronach Stone can be considered the default passive option for most playstyles, the only real exceptions being the Steed for early-game Heavy Armor users, and maybe the Lord for early Destruction mages (though with time both builds will come to prefer the Atronach).
I just use andromeda to make all the stones more unique. In that mod the steed stone only gives 50 capacity BUT marks stuff on your map and makes you move FORTY percent faster out of combat as well as 50% stamina regen bonus (and finding all stones unlocks the ability to at-will use a bag of holding so who cares about only getting 50 instead of 100). Also the apprentice makes all novice spells free and reduces the cost of everything else while making spells either 50% stronger or weaker (seems to be about 70/30). The lady shows you who could potentially kill you in one more hit and significantly weakens those targets. The lord lets you power attack while out of stamina with the downside of no stamina regen in combat. The lover cheats death once every 15min and randomly gives you enchanted shit. The tower gives you an infinitely repeating treasure hunt quest. Good stuff. Serpent also gives a neat effect of using MP while sneaking to make sneaking 25% faster and as long as you have MP remaining deal 40% (20% for bows/crossbows) more sneak attack damage. Shadow makes you faster in combat and deal more sneak attack damage while near an obstacle as well as improved sneak (gaining all stones gives you the ability to, at-will, leap to enemies via shadow step). So yeah, andromeda, check it out if you find the vanilla stone effects to basic or not game-changing enough. The three first stones are basically the same (though they are nerfed to 10% gain because they have secondary effects that have actual impact instead of just more xp) with the exception of the power they give you when you find all stones.
You should do a second part of this video: "standing stones, ranked, when you have the aetherial crown." The once a day stones rise in the ranking when they can be activated multiple times. The ritual stone with aetherial is awesome, as you go from room to room, ressurrecting the foes you have just killed to aid you in the next room.
Basically every "Once a day" ability becomes a "However many times I want" just by removing and re-equipping the Crown Also having the Lovers Stone on it allows you to add Rested bonuses just by taking it off when you sleep and putting it back on when you awake
The Ritual Stone is also good for charging the Ebony Blade by Destroying the Dark Brotherhood. Use the Blade to kill them, then use the Ritual Stone to resurrect them and slay them again to finish charging the Blade.
I’d have Guardian stones over the Lover stone, as you can get the lovers stones effects by sleeping with your spouse and it stacks with the guardian stones. Whereas Lovers stone and lovers comfort does not, it doesn’t even stack with the well rested bonus
Atronach is the only choice for pure mages after around level 25ish - the extra magika boost is of course nice and the nerf to regen can be easily mitigated, but the magicka absorption ability is unbelievably great, especially with a Breton Dragonborn. With Dragonskin active and a few perks you can get well over 100% spell absorption and tank any dragon priest with ease
As an high elf, i prefer combine my highborn magic with lord stone, give me immunity to any disease, but weaker magic resistance, so lord stone could at least reduce my weakening magick resistance
I dont forget about the standing stones... I choose a class stone at the beginning of the game then forget about it and question why my skills are leveling up so slow when I start branching out to max out all my skills.
from best to worst (I usually make breton mages/battlemages) 1- Lord stone 2- Attronach (can be a best, like lord stone) 3- Steed 4- invis stone 5- Ritual 6- Paralyze 7- Lady 8- Apprentice 9- Tower (srsly trash, u can open max lvl chests with 15 lockpicking) the ones to improve skills I only use when crafting, and combo it with well rested to save myself some time. Cool video, I disagree on the fist places but thats it
The lover stone is OK, but you don't get the rested bonus (10% faster skill gain) from using it, that's a big negative. IMO the only one that's truly overpowered is the atronach stone, and the only ones that are truly bad are the serpent, shadow, and tower stones. The rest are pretty good!
Atronach Stone is the obvious choice for mid to high-levelled characters. Stone + perk + Miraak's set = 100% magic absorption (which means you're completely immune to all magic, poison, and disease while also being hit by magic attacks is like free magicka recharge)
I don't like the exp stones. They are just boring, they add nothing distinct to the game. Also since the game levels with you leveling faster doesnt really do anything. I only use them when I want to level something specific fast like smithing or alchemy but otherwise never.
I agree they are kind of dull and only really good at the start of the game. By the time I enter midgame I've usually swapped them out for the Lord or Atronach stone.
I choose the Serpent, not because of the lore nor the ability, but because it is a birthsign and I simply chose it in all TES games, granted in TES 5 you can swap them.
In my opinion, steed stone is best one cuz I just carry too many things and dont know what to drop, thats why I get that one skill in pickpocketing which lets you carry more too and can carry a lot of stuff
ritual stone is op, kill someone, use the stone, kill more people, wait 24h and use it again, in not a lot of time you have a whole undead army. they dont even turn to ash after 60 seconds. also use the aetherial crown and you can resurrect them without waiting a whole day
Oooh but sir the serpent stone is THE best tool for abusing the leveling system, although it relies on using a glitch. Basicly the glitch let's you pickpocket any item with a 100% chance - though this doesn't raise pickpocketting, it can be really usefull to recover those 20k gold you just spent on 5 high level training sessions. Basically you have to find a way for the trainer to enter the animation where they are getting back up. To do this, they either have to be in the paralized or the ragdoll state. You can use a paralize effect from a weapon, spell, the serpent stone, or even reverse pickpocketting a paralysis poison. The ragdoll state is only created by two shouts, a level 3 Fus-Roh-Dah, or a cycle of any level. Now the thing is that if you want to do this properly, you will probably want to avoid detection, meaning that most method will require some points in some skills like sneak, illusion or pickpocketting. Using the serpent stone is not the only way to achieve this glitch, but it's probably the easiest way consedering it relies on a standing stone (and thus is not exactly thied to your early game build like the other methods).
Atronach Stone is the best end game stone by far it's no contest. The only thing that comes close is Lord Stone, however Lord Stone only gives 50 armor and 25% magic resistance, 50 armor is negligible end game considering how easy it is to hit armor caps without it. Meanwhile Atronach stone gives +50 Magicka which imo pretty much offsets the -50% Magicka Regen already, and by endgame the downside is irrelevant is since Warriors don't need Magicka anyway while Mages have 100% magicka reduction, what is invaluable though is that 50% magic absorption which is on average better than the 25% magic resistance (the difference being magic resistance gives consistent damage reduction while magic absorb is a % chance of negating 100% damage), The more important thing though is that magic absorb sources is harder to obtain than magic resistance, and if you're not exploiting glitches you're gonna want both 80% magic absorb and 80% magic resistance (there are ways to get 100% magic absorb which makes magic resistance pointless, but they either involve glitches or is a temporary thing or requires using suboptimal gear (Miraak's Robes))
Steed stone is the go to for people in the early game trying to do a heavy armor build. (Even tought 99% of Skyrim players use light armor, cause the perks are just better). Like C'mon, 50% faster stamina regen? Thing rocks, feck fast travel.
Steed stone is goated on legendary survival mode, extra carry weight doesn't hurt and zero armor weight makes the choice between heavy and light armor dummy easy
Good video, but i think you did underestimate Steed Stone a bit. It takes really long to get 70 lvl in heavy armor, for that reason i was using this for mist of my heavy warrior playthroughs. Also Lord is the best one cause it is the most universal stone for all builds and has no downsides
Certain stones are good for builds like the serpent stone can be used with a warrior build who doesn’t use magic. I never liked magic so the serpent stone is useful for a warrior build.
in my humble opinion, Ritual Stone is the best one, just ask the Spiffing Brit
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Facts 😂
Its amusing, but waiting 24 hours constantly is a very tedious way of playing the game.
@@lazzledazzle7827 indeed, but with a gentle application of the aetheric crown and some aggressive headgear switches wabam Infinite dead guy pick me ups.
100% Makes fights against Necromancers and Draugr dungeons a total breeze!
The ability to exploit these Stones with the Aetherial Crown is just fantastic. Once per day? That doesn't work for me, brother.
Or just wait 24 hrs.
Hmmm... I can switch the crown off and on when near enemies.
@@Jason-re4dw Yea Jason you can just put it on and off lmao 😂
The Steed stone is my favorite because I will always be a horder regardless of build
Facts
With steed stone, deathbrand armor, a mixed level up choice of mp/hp/stamina and the anniversary edition backpack i have 560 carry weight and I can still only kill about 2 dragons and loot a few dungeons before I have to go back to my house and dump stuff, or call on my dremora merchant to sell my enchanted gear
@@keo549 or you can call the Dremora Merchant immediately and thus no need for the Steed Stone anymore
Ok, hear me out:
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For every magic school
The weightless armor from Steed Stone does have another great benefit - your armor doesn't impede stealth. It basically lets you skip spending perks on that entire half of the heavy armor tree if you're interested in being a heavy armor stealth character.
From both this and his racial abilities ranking I get the feeling he doesn't actually understand how spell absorption works. It doesn't just regenerate your magicka. It also prevents the incoming spells from doing any damage.
So the Atronach stone gives you a 50% chance of any incoming spell regenerating your magicka instead of doing you damage.
And he put the Lord stone higher than this, with a heavy armor you're gonna tank so much
He also forgot to mention the big downside that summoner players will have as spell absorption seems to work on your summons
so you try to summons a dremer lord the spell absorption be like ....nope no minion for you but here's a casting cost refund....but sometimes it's not a full refund it's just 95% refund so if you spam trying to get it to work you will be out of mana and still no minion
Pretty bad list tbh
@@lowgrav5900 Apprentice stone is better for a conjuration build anyways. No problems with spell absorption and the double magicka damage doesn't matter either because you're not supposed to take damage with that build, your summons are supposed to tank everything.
The Lady Stone is also great for vampires, since it will mitigate the effects of sunlight.
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@@eatmynutsarchmage4883I am playing now and am tripping cuz the bad side effects
The Shadow Stone becomes completely obsolete with one of the nightingale powers, which is a lot better than plain invisibility because it doesn’t get interrupted by every little thing
In the anniversary edition, the Bow of Shadows is available at level one with a much better effect.
It's already obsolete from the start as invisibility is a illusion spell that last just as long without the once a day limitation
I love his ranking so much he deserves so much more than 30k subs
3:40
The Steed Stone is God tier for one reason, the no weigh Armour is unlimited. For example, If you have 20 Steel Shields, weighing 300 carry weight, if you equip the steel shields, ALL weigh 0
Lover's stone is good but does have one HUGE!! downside in that if it is active then you can not get any rested bonus (basically the stone is just the lover's comfort resting bonus)
That being said the aetherium crown can be used to get both (actually 3, if you include one of the guardian stones) by equipping the crown (with the lovers stone stored in it) after getting the rested bonus
The Lover Stone should be below the Warrior, Mage, and Thief stones.
The Lover Stone does not stack with the effects given from resting. And you can get Lover's Comfort from being married - no stone needed.
Unless you're a warewolf or vampire...
And the Lover's Comfort buff only lasts 24 hours.
If you get the Aetherial Crown and stick the Lover's Stone on it, then you can take it off right before you sleep, get whatever level of XP bonus is usually blocked, and then stick it back on when you wake up. Combined with one of the other experience stones and you have just gotten 2 levels of general XP boost and one extra level for a specific build.
I understand why you put the "faster skill gain" stones so high but technically they can be easily considered the worst ones. They just let you level up faster, they don't give you any direct bonuses.
So if your goal is to level up as fast as possible they're obviously the best choice but if it isn't then they're literally useless.
The Atronach stone is also incredibly busted, it can basically make you immortal; no other stone even comes close in terms of power. I understand that these are just your opinions but opinions can and should be challenged
The faster skill gain stones are the only stones that should be used until high level, when the end game stones are useful. The Atronach stone is one.
@@zeroone8800 I'd argue that the atronach stone should be used asap because it allows you to quickly have 100 Spell Absorption which means immunity to spell damage (also includes dragon shouts and similar effects), immunity to disease aswell and with a neat easy trick it also means having infinite magicka.
The power of the atronach stone is unrivaled in this game. I'm not saying that other stones are useless but the atronach stone is THE ONLY one that allows you to completely break the game and become almost invincible at an early level
i like fast skill gain stones so I don't have to make 3000 gold rings and enchant them just to get smithing and enchanting to 100
I agree 100%.
To me the "faster skill gain" stones are meaningless, because the world, including all enemies, level with the character. It just makes all enemies stronger, faster.
The atronach stone seems strange, but once you have 100% spell absorption, Overpowered gets a new meaning.
@@zoroasper9759 If you use summoning spells without the unofficial patch, the Atronach stone affects them (most of the time they just fizzle), so if you're not on a version that allows modding and have that specific playstyle it's not as good. Still pretty good though.
The tower stone has another benefit in which any building you enter doesn't count as trespassing, I like to use that to avoid the "you're not supposed ot be here" moments.
Really? Does this really work? I have been wondering if it was possible to play the game with no crime so everything the game tracks on the crime tab is off the board
Do you think it's possible?
Be careful that FudgeMuppet doesn't discover that you had the AUDACITY of not putting the Atronach Stone in first place hahahaha
Ritual stone with ahzidal ring of necromancy is awesome. Reanimate 10 people and they all will explode when take damage. And if you also have artherium crown you can do that infinite times. Best way to play civil war quests
The Ritual Stone deserves to be MUCH higher. Maybe even no. 1. It grants you ability to maintain an army of undead of limitless size. And, extremely important, these undead do not turn to ash once defeated or expired! Which means, you cannot loose them, which means your undead army can only grow. With the DLC dwemer crown (i forgot its name) you can use the ability whenever you want and you do not have to wait 24h. That's insanely good. It makes you a god of undead with 0 magical knowledge. You can dress up in Radiant Raiment outfit, never level up, stick your left index finger up your arse and conquer Tamriel on Legendary difficulty.
Aetherial Crown, Lover Stone and then Guardian Stone of your build = 35% faster levelling on your builds skills which is OP
Crown plus ritual stone - >infinite army of mammoths, giants and everything else
but in return you have to wear a silly dwemer tiara instead of your cool helmet
@@KaimArgonarEyyyy if I’m playing as a mage the crown doesn’t count as armour so you can combine it with the mage armour perk in alteration so crown + lover + mage stones
Or just get married for the 15%, Or settle with the 10% and don't do anything.
I wish I made the crown instead of the shield
Ritual Stone stored in the Aetherial Crown lets you raise your undead army as many times a day as you want. Just unequip/equip the Crown, and it's like a day passed.
The Ritual Stone is how I deal with Kematu and his men. Used it on Legendary and Master difficulty and they went down without getting a single hit on me. Steed stone is my main, though, since I wear heavy armor and carry far too many weapons lol. Another great video, thank you.
Honestly, the Atronach and the Lord Stone are, imo, tied for the best. The Lover Stone is great for early game, in order to level some skills, but I think that you should eventually replace them based on playstyle.
The Atronach Stone can be combined with other sources of Magic Absorption to allow you to become immune the magicka damage. Combine this with both enchantments to lower spell costs and the Ash Guardian spell (without a heartstone) and you don't need to worry about your own magicka pool either.
The Lord Stone just gives extra protection on top of what your armor already does, which makes it great for various builds.
I'd list a stone to help stealth builds, but the stealth archer really does not need a stone to become broken. using the Aetherial Crown and choosing both the Atronach and the Lord Stones? Absolutely great for many builds. The magic protection from the Lord Stone won't be useful in this case, but the extra AC is. Of course, there are some glitches with the Aetherial Crown that makes other stones (Ritual Stone) broken, but I question if we should consider glitches or not when ranking.
I’m basic. As soon as I think I can survive the odd Ice Wraith or Sabre Cat, I beeline it to the Lord Stone. Then I do the Book of Love quest. 40% magic resist for the rest of the game, 65% if Breton. Mages and dragon breath attacks stop being an issue. Of course, enchanting can do this better, but only after you’ve grinded up the skill, and I personally avoid smithing and enchanting until lategame.
And also 2 perks in alteration skill tree, +10% magic resistance each, to make your magic resistance the maximum of 85%.
@@pelinalwhitestrake3367 I tend to go all into Alteration get the Atronach perk and all three ranks of magic resist as well as stability. Combine it with the "Book of Love" the Atronach stone and one peace of magic resistant gear. And you're set with 80+ spell absorption and magic resist.
Could you rank all the different roofs in skyrim? Thatched vs shingles vs stone ect.
3:56 Incorrect, it's not EXACTLY the same as far as I recall how the Conditioning Perk works.
The Steed Stone allows you to carry a million steel armor in your inventory without being encumbered for example.
Because you're wearing the armor any duplicate armor also weighs nothing.
Loool nice trick
That's useful, until you enchant or upgraade your armor, which I believe most people do when they have a chance
@@cobaltchromee7533 No that doesn't matter; so long as the base item is the same.
So me wearing steel armor of health for example? I can also carry 1 million steel in armors.
Enchantments don't matter
@@JamesMerlaut Ah, that is actually broken. But really, only useful when you're wearing some low level armor, no enemy is going to wear stalhrim, right?
@@cobaltchromee7533 ... You... don't get to a very high level before making a new character... do you?
i was waiting for this ranking,steed stone is my personal favorite stone
I actually think the Tower Stone is quite useful, in fact it’s always the first stone that I pick with a new character. Yes it becomes pretty useless at higher levels, but I personally like to use it to don’t accidentally level up lockpicking in the early game and still get good loot from chests. Afterall, the enemies level with you and you don’t want to be wasteful when playing on legendary.
The steed stone in amazing for all my build in the early game. Having more carry weight is never bad, especially when you use the heaviest armor possible, having equipped apparel weight negated is extremely helpful, and it’s beautiful to not see my stamina bar drain instantly when I run in heavy armor. But once you get high enough pick pocket and light/heavy armor, you can achieve the same affect with Extra Pockets and Conditioning/Unhindered perks. Which honestly makes the stone itself even better, because it can carry you a long way and then be replaced so you don’t have to keep crutching on it.
Well I'd put Atronach over Lord simply because Spell Absorption is busted. But I get it, if you don't build SA, then it's better to have a more reliable Magic Resistance that will always protect you than 50/50 OHKO/NoDmg
The Atronach stone is simply the strongest one and there shouldn't really be a discussion; it only deserves the top spot.
I love pairing atronach and lord with aetherial crown, you get all the immunities in the world, and paired with basic enchanting, you can hit the cap really fast
The Lady Stone: Stamina is negated because of vegetable soup, and while in combat its 12 % faster heath regen.
The Apprentice stone is the best because using magic especially at a low level is such a pain you're always out and you don't need to be fighting another magic user like with the Atronach stone.
Plus, other thing with the tower stone is that, if you have the anniversary edition, the spell Fenrik's welcome does EXACTLY THE SAME THING for just a few magicka and with invisibility.
I would not have ranked the lovers stone so high. It would be one of lowest, together with the three specific ones. The reason is quite simple: leveling up is just not interesting. The world levels with you.
In my humble opinion, the most interesting stones are those that grant you special moves that are unique. Followed by the non-unique ones and powerful buffs to your build and then at the end the leveling stones.
The ritual is the most unique and interesting action you can get. So I would have ranked it highest.
Shadow, Tower and serpents special abilities can be achieved on other ways. The skeleton key is just plain better than the tower. As well as the skill that makes your picks unbreakable. The serpent can be substituted with paralyzing poison if you want. And stealth is so powerful without being invisible, you really do not need shadow. So in the end, they are less interesting than the buffs and even the leveling stuff. so they are lowest imho.
The buffs are build dependant and mostly not really comparable.
So for me:
Ritual>buffs>leveling>shadow,tower,serpent.
But Maybe I just love hunting for unique abilities :) And I am currently playing a level 1 playthrough and collecting powerful abilities that "outweigh" my level is just fun.
Did you know that the werewolf talent tree does not make you level up? You can be level one but a masterwerewolf^^
Also Shouts! Finally usable as main weapon (well if you use the amulet and blessing of talos together with the patched morokai mask and the dragonform shout -> -80% recharge time.
4:43 the atronach stone's negatives can also be countered by not using magic as the spell absorbtion basically halves all magic based damage you take
PSA: Spell Absorption completely negates the incoming damage of spells it absorbs!
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when the Atronach Stone and Bretons' Dragonskin power are so underappreciated.
The Atronach's permanent 50% chance to negate magic damage is already by far the most powerful defensive effect in the game; that it also recharges your own magicka is a cherry on top. The extra 50 magicka is also very appreciable for much of the early-mid game, and itself more than counter-balances the minor reduction to regen rate for most characters (the only exception possibly being early-game Destruction mages).
Consequently the Atronach Stone can be considered the default passive option for most playstyles, the only real exceptions being the Steed for early-game Heavy Armor users, and maybe the Lord for early Destruction mages (though with time both builds will come to prefer the Atronach).
Also Aetherium Crown. Play as Breton and get Lord Stone and Atronoch Stone. You'll be bathing in dragon fire.
Do this many people really not know about the Aetherium Crown and how it lets you stack the Lover's Stone with the Mage/Warrior/Thief stone?
I just use andromeda to make all the stones more unique. In that mod the steed stone only gives 50 capacity BUT marks stuff on your map and makes you move FORTY percent faster out of combat as well as 50% stamina regen bonus (and finding all stones unlocks the ability to at-will use a bag of holding so who cares about only getting 50 instead of 100). Also the apprentice makes all novice spells free and reduces the cost of everything else while making spells either 50% stronger or weaker (seems to be about 70/30). The lady shows you who could potentially kill you in one more hit and significantly weakens those targets. The lord lets you power attack while out of stamina with the downside of no stamina regen in combat. The lover cheats death once every 15min and randomly gives you enchanted shit. The tower gives you an infinitely repeating treasure hunt quest. Good stuff. Serpent also gives a neat effect of using MP while sneaking to make sneaking 25% faster and as long as you have MP remaining deal 40% (20% for bows/crossbows) more sneak attack damage. Shadow makes you faster in combat and deal more sneak attack damage while near an obstacle as well as improved sneak (gaining all stones gives you the ability to, at-will, leap to enemies via shadow step).
So yeah, andromeda, check it out if you find the vanilla stone effects to basic or not game-changing enough. The three first stones are basically the same (though they are nerfed to 10% gain because they have secondary effects that have actual impact instead of just more xp) with the exception of the power they give you when you find all stones.
Good video. Me, i always put the Lord stone as the best.
Btw The lover stone have a downside: It disable the Rested Effect
@@El_Gato_The_Goat When i train a skill, i will use it. I know it's not a big downside.
@@El_Gato_The_Goat Yeah, they already have no rested effect so it's the perfect stone for them!
What would be a fun ranking video be, Favorite Skyrim food on how much you would likely eat them.
You should do a second part of this video: "standing stones, ranked, when you have the aetherial crown."
The once a day stones rise in the ranking when they can be activated multiple times.
The ritual stone with aetherial is awesome, as you go from room to room, ressurrecting the foes you have just killed to aid you in the next room.
You know, most of these standing stones would've been very op if you had the aetherial crowm.
Basically every "Once a day" ability becomes a "However many times I want" just by removing and re-equipping the Crown
Also having the Lovers Stone on it allows you to add Rested bonuses just by taking it off when you sleep and putting it back on when you awake
The Ritual Stone is also good for charging the Ebony Blade by Destroying the Dark Brotherhood. Use the Blade to kill them, then use the Ritual Stone to resurrect them and slay them again to finish charging the Blade.
I'm kinda surprised to hear people forgot these.
Ritual stone and dwevern special crown= real potema's plan
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I’d have Guardian stones over the Lover stone, as you can get the lovers stones effects by sleeping with your spouse and it stacks with the guardian stones. Whereas Lovers stone and lovers comfort does not, it doesn’t even stack with the well rested bonus
Atronach is the only choice for pure mages after around level 25ish - the extra magika boost is of course nice and the nerf to regen can be easily mitigated, but the magicka absorption ability is unbelievably great, especially with a Breton Dragonborn. With Dragonskin active and a few perks you can get well over 100% spell absorption and tank any dragon priest with ease
As an high elf, i prefer combine my highborn magic with lord stone, give me immunity to any disease, but weaker magic resistance, so lord stone could at least reduce my weakening magick resistance
Ritual Stone is OP if you get the Aetherial Crown where you can basically get unlimited uses out of it.
Once I found out about the aetherial crown, the lady stone and standing stones are the only ones I have used for years.
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I dont forget about the standing stones... I choose a class stone at the beginning of the game then forget about it and question why my skills are leveling up so slow when I start branching out to max out all my skills.
from best to worst (I usually make breton mages/battlemages)
1- Lord stone
2- Attronach (can be a best, like lord stone)
3- Steed
4- invis stone
5- Ritual
6- Paralyze
7- Lady
8- Apprentice
9- Tower (srsly trash, u can open max lvl chests with 15 lockpicking)
the ones to improve skills I only use when crafting, and combo it with well rested to save myself some time. Cool video, I disagree on the fist places but thats it
the lover stone does have a downside you can't get any rested bonuses with it active
After seeing a bunch of Fudgemuppets videos it feels weird seeing the Atronach stone so low.
The lover stone is OK, but you don't get the rested bonus (10% faster skill gain) from using it, that's a big negative. IMO the only one that's truly overpowered is the atronach stone, and the only ones that are truly bad are the serpent, shadow, and tower stones. The rest are pretty good!
What about the pillars in solthstiem, they're like standing stones
But you always have to go back to them
You can use all of them at the same time.
The steed stone is amazing for me because I use deadric armor and often find my inventory overencumbered
Picking Breton and going with the Atronach sign is really just the best way to tell mages to screw off.
The serpent Stone to farm gold and 100 smithing at the beginning of the game.
The Ritual Stone is great for the Atherial Crown.
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Atronach Stone is the obvious choice for mid to high-levelled characters. Stone + perk + Miraak's set = 100% magic absorption (which means you're completely immune to all magic, poison, and disease while also being hit by magic attacks is like free magicka recharge)
Honestly, the steed should be higher because even later on it's still helpful because it muffles your armor too
I’ve always gone steed stone for heavy armor builds, means I can sprint like the wind with the weight of a freight train
As a hoarder who has trouble leaving ANY loot behind I can't not choose the Steed Stone every time
I'm standing stoned
I don't like the exp stones. They are just boring, they add nothing distinct to the game. Also since the game levels with you leveling faster doesnt really do anything. I only use them when I want to level something specific fast like smithing or alchemy but otherwise never.
I like getting my weapon skill to level 50 as soon as possible so I can decapitate my enemies. Other than that, I see your view.
I agree they are kind of dull and only really good at the start of the game. By the time I enter midgame I've usually swapped them out for the Lord or Atronach stone.
You've clearly never tried playing a Mage like normal person would but without the Mage and or Lover Stone then.
I choose the Serpent, not because of the lore nor the ability, but because it is a birthsign and I simply chose it in all TES games, granted in TES 5 you can swap them.
In my opinion, steed stone is best one cuz I just carry too many things and dont know what to drop, thats why I get that one skill in pickpocketing which lets you carry more too and can carry a lot of stuff
That's when you choose the aetherial crown and go with Warrior, mage or asasins stone and the lover stone
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The tower stone has many hidden downsides
1) you don't get XP for picking locks
2) you don't level up lockpicking
... dude that's one downside :D
ritual stone is op, kill someone, use the stone, kill more people, wait 24h and use it again, in not a lot of time you have a whole undead army. they dont even turn to ash after 60 seconds. also use the aetherial crown and you can resurrect them without waiting a whole day
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Oooh but sir the serpent stone is THE best tool for abusing the leveling system, although it relies on using a glitch.
Basicly the glitch let's you pickpocket any item with a 100% chance - though this doesn't raise pickpocketting, it can be really usefull to recover those 20k gold you just spent on 5 high level training sessions.
Basically you have to find a way for the trainer to enter the animation where they are getting back up. To do this, they either have to be in the paralized or the ragdoll state. You can use a paralize effect from a weapon, spell, the serpent stone, or even reverse pickpocketting a paralysis poison. The ragdoll state is only created by two shouts, a level 3 Fus-Roh-Dah, or a cycle of any level.
Now the thing is that if you want to do this properly, you will probably want to avoid detection, meaning that most method will require some points in some skills like sneak, illusion or pickpocketting.
Using the serpent stone is not the only way to achieve this glitch, but it's probably the easiest way consedering it relies on a standing stone (and thus is not exactly thied to your early game build like the other methods).
Atronach Stone is the best end game stone by far it's no contest. The only thing that comes close is Lord Stone, however Lord Stone only gives 50 armor and 25% magic resistance, 50 armor is negligible end game considering how easy it is to hit armor caps without it. Meanwhile Atronach stone gives +50 Magicka which imo pretty much offsets the -50% Magicka Regen already, and by endgame the downside is irrelevant is since Warriors don't need Magicka anyway while Mages have 100% magicka reduction, what is invaluable though is that 50% magic absorption which is on average better than the 25% magic resistance (the difference being magic resistance gives consistent damage reduction while magic absorb is a % chance of negating 100% damage), The more important thing though is that magic absorb sources is harder to obtain than magic resistance, and if you're not exploiting glitches you're gonna want both 80% magic absorb and 80% magic resistance (there are ways to get 100% magic absorb which makes magic resistance pointless, but they either involve glitches or is a temporary thing or requires using suboptimal gear (Miraak's Robes))
Steed stone is the go to for people in the early game trying to do a heavy armor build. (Even tought 99% of Skyrim players use light armor, cause the perks are just better). Like C'mon, 50% faster stamina regen? Thing rocks, feck fast travel.
i honestly think the atronach is the best because it is the only way to become immune to magic as resistance is capped at about 80% i think.
The first thing I do with a new character is to take a carriage ride to Markarth and get the lover stone :D
In my last run I got the Aetherium Crown early and got steed and lovers stone, was pretty dope.
Steed stone is goated on legendary survival mode, extra carry weight doesn't hurt and zero armor weight makes the choice between heavy and light armor dummy easy
Personally I love the Atronach Stone/Breton race combo for a witch hunter (or spellsword) extraordinare.
I’ve never even heard of the tower stone in my years of playing this fucking game
Good video, but i think you did underestimate Steed Stone a bit. It takes really long to get 70 lvl in heavy armor, for that reason i was using this for mist of my heavy warrior playthroughs.
Also Lord is the best one cause it is the most universal stone for all builds and has no downsides
Another ranking idea, different gods blessings.
A suggestion of an easier ranking if you’re running out of ideas is your top 10 (or whatever number you want) of Skyrim’s best mods🤷🏼♂️
Certain stones are good for builds like the serpent stone can be used with a warrior build who doesn’t use magic. I never liked magic so the serpent stone is useful for a warrior build.
My favorite standing stone is the lord stone:) incredibly useful on legendary difficulty survival mode:)
Stead is best for increased movement, carry capacity, and other horse aspects. ;)
yeah warrior/mage/thief stone is good because is helps u leveling ur
*STEALTH ARCHER* a lot.
nice ranking. bro can u make a ranking for one handed weapons AE there is no videos about it and the little ones are ancients
Wait these are all the standing stones? I thought there were twice this amount!
Lord Stone is good on legendary difficulty mid Game after you leveled your Main damage trees to about 60.
Once the thief/mage/warrior stones became useless to me, the lord stone became my primary. Magicka and weapons who?
I pretty much agree.
Me who uses andromeda…
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4:11 The Atronach stone should be lower cause of that stupid bug which makes you absorb your own conjuration spells 50% of the time
whats the backpack mod you are using????
I guess the Thief Stone stole the archery from the Warrior Stone