The SHADY Origins of Rouge the Bat | Origin Oracle
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Rouge the Bat first appeared alongside Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic Adventure 2 and left quite the...impression on Sonic fans. Now as a permanent member of the Sonic cast, what exactly do we know about her origins? Let's take a look during this Origin Oracle.
0:00 - Intro to Rouge the Bat
0:48 - Rouge's Debut - Sonic Adventure 2
3:11 - Rouge's Design and Conception
4:33 - Post-Sonic Adventure 2
5:04 - Rouge in Sonic Battle
6:29 - Rouge's Origins in the Archie Comics
8:06 - IDW Comics
8:38 - Sonic X - Excessively Flirty Rouge
10:47 - Please give a like to help a small channel :)
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Next Origin Oracle will go back to the Super Mario franchise! I know it's not Sonic but please show those videos some love if you enjoy my content. :)
I don’t mind learning about Mario too😁
Same
Neat, looking forward to them. :)
Well, finally! I've been waiting for that Mario episode to be concluded.
can you do sliver like after the Mario one
I feel like Rouge would be the kind of person (bat?) who, if you ask about her past, she'll either give a very vague response, dodge the question, or give completely different details each time she's asked. Not because she has something to hide, but a mix of just not wanting to tell people and she likes messing with others.
I know some women who are like that. they typically are women who get what they want out of life and handle things like a boss. Love women like that. Another reason why I like Rouge
I killed a man.... with this THUMB!
I feel like you’re the kind of person to make random shit up about a non existent character
the right person gets the trut
@@LugiThePainDrinker I feel like you’re the kind of person to be an ass over a fairly simple conclusion most people could achieve
All of Rouge’s SA2 themes where certified bangers
I WISH they would go back to making these style themes for characters again..ESPECIALLY Rouge's
Certified Bang Bros
@@a-buttonace ruclips.net/video/XILGnOvyVJQ/видео.html
Yes yes and YES! 🤩🤩🤩
Sonic Battle also went for the "working for the government to pay off her crimes" angle, except it's even funnier than the comics' execution because the government explicitly gave Rouge diplomatic immunity in exchange for her services. So she's a double agent working for the government, saving the world on the down-low, but she STILL goes around stealing jewels and valuable artefacts. Except this time it's on the government's dollar. Rouge is truly living the life.
It’s kind of a shame that we haven’t gotten as deep of a backstory for Rouge as we have for the other characters, even in Archie. I think in Sonic Chronicles she mentions having a mother but other than that, nothing.
I think Rouge a pretty cool character for her fighting abilities and the way her friendship with the dark team is depicted in games like SA2 and the 2006 game. And I hope she appears in the 3rd movie, now that GUN exists in that continuity and she could become an agent. Not to mention now that Knuckles is in the movies it would be cool to see his romance/rivalry with Rouge. Plus I would love to see the internet’s collective freakout upon the reveal of a photorealistic CGI movie design for her.
I’m quite surprised how far the games and Sonic X have played up Rouge’s sex appeal. Like I’m sure SEGA is well aware of the kind of FREAKS UP THERE who would drool all over her. Lol
helluva boss reference nice. but I agree overall.
Well, who do you think are the ones sexualizing her in the first place? Someone or some group of people up at Sega/Sonic Team are freaks themselves lol.
@@anomaly395 Have you seen her character design? That's the entire point.
@@evdestroy5304 Yeah, and that’s *my* point lol. It was someone at Sega’s idea to make her sexy in the first place.
Fun Fact: After SA2, Sega wanted her to have a less provocative outfit (Sonic Heroes), but reverted it back because the new outfit made her look even more provocative.
I do love Shadow and Rouge as a team, they mesh well and in heroes their bond grows even stronger
True! And it grows even stronger in 06!
Yup, especially with how she stops him from fighting Omega and even puts a side her want for treasure to help Shadow with his goal of finding Eggman to understand who he is.
Can't forget Omega!
Out of Shadouge and Knucouge, I prefer Shadouge as it is more likely to be canon than Knucouge which is a far cry from it.
@@TronicSSJ07 I would disagree since Knucouge has had actual ship tease, while Shadouge mostly exist because of a strong friendship (unless I've missed something), and chemistry, and I just like that close friendship and chemistry, but that's me.
Oh, not everybody can pull of an origin of rouge the bat without a lot of game cameos, great work!
I actually think (even if it's pretty comical) her being super forward in Sonic X adds to her personality in a good way in my eyes lol
She reminds me of Bayonetta in that regard. And I love Bayo!
Same
Same I love her forward personality lol one reason I love her
hello charmander could we be friends and do a rp aka roleplay if you do them
@@TexasCarWashChannel626 No.
@@Rammy_Latin please I need a friend do you even rp anyway?
Rouge and Knuckles' relationship largely going nowhere is sad, but also sadly not unexpected, given that Sonic Team largely began shelving Knuckles, the original Sonic Rival Character, in favor of Shadow, and of course there has been the recent push to downplay the secondary characters entirely. As someone who always preferred Knuckles to Shadow, it's a pity.
At least frontiers seems to be picking up slack and the implied dlcs.
In my opinion they shouldn't shelve knuckles but more have him as a extra sidekick for when sonic and tails really need him
Cmon now blowing up half the moon was all Eggman. If I recall correctly it was Shadow that set up the dynamite packs not Rouge. She just had to steal the emeralds. Having Rouge (and later shadow) be a government agent strengthens the lore in which it shows the relationship between humans and mobians which I like to see more of. I would like to see a game where human NPCs and anthro NPCs interacting with each other.
Usually when it comes to media with animal characters and human characters (like the Godzilla movies for instance) I never care about the humans and only want to see the cool animal characters. But with the Sonic series I do wish they would explore the human side of Sonic’s world more and just how they view south islanders (or mobians, whichever they’re called in the games) now that Tails Tube has confirmed that Sonic’s earth is just split into separate continents (one where all the humans live like Station Square and then the other side with places like Green Hill Zone and such). It definitely would be cool to see a game with both human and mobian NPCs living together.
@@anomaly395 is it literally split in the middle or they're like twin dimensions that exist together?
@@SirCrusher No I mean like they live on the same planet, just different continents.
I wonder what rouge’s childhood would have been like
I'd bet she was trained by her father how to fight, while her mother got her into stealing, or it might even be the other way around.
I’ve always thought she grew up really poor and that’s what got her into thievery, treasure hunting, and taking up shady jobs to get her way. This idea could’ve also contributed to her vanity, selfishness, and materialism, not wanting to look back on her life in poverty
Honestly Rouge not having a backstory or implied to have one but only revealing hints of it really adds to her allure and mystery, like it’s up to the audience interpretation on why she is the way she is now
@@sodapopski interesting
10:17 Yo wtf, I never knew about this lmao. Damn, the sub for Sonic X was wild. First Sonic saying “Shit”, that one frame of blood, the S&M thing, and now this. Never would of thought s*x would be referenced in the Sonic franchise. How was this show not TV-14? XD
It’s a different experience in Japanese 😂
She’s down bad. Even knuckles and shadow knows that about her 😂😂😂
Typical Japan
The west vilifies sex (which is required for our species to continue existing) but glorifies violence (which does nothing but cause harm and do permanent damage to the species.)
If that sounds backwards, don't worry -- it is.
The show was released in America on a Saturday morning segment ov WB called 4-kidz. They were notorious for Americanizing anime and censorship. Glad we ended that era.
Rouge and Catwoman would be really good friends
Yes! So would be Knuckles and Batman because both Rouge and Catwoman would crawl underneath their lovers/rivals' skins from time to time, imagine how awesome this would be if there was a crossover between both groups of characters
(At 10:25) Kinda makes me wonder: is Rouge actually just sexually manipulating everyone's emotions or she actually is a hard to get bisexual?
💀💀💀💀 its obvi the first one
Hard to get bisexual is hilarious.
I mean, why not both?
Cool, sexy, fun and a good heart. Also her personal theme songs consistently some of, if not the best songs in any games she appears in
I'm pretty surprised that there is little development history behind Rouge, unlike almost every other character before her. I would have been interested in what the idea was behind her inclusion, beyond the stuff we know already from SA2. And not to mention, why she got the somewhat sexualized design that she became infamous for. I mean, we got characters with similar proportions to her prior to her inception, such as Sally Acorn in SatAM and the Archie comics and Tiara Boobowski in the forever scrapped Sonic X-Treme. But it was Rouge that finally got into the games, so I'm curious.
The World may never know...
cus knuckles is shy to women from bein alone. so a sexy good lookin & very sly/forward woman would give him so much tension in his journey in SA2. That's jus 1 aspect to help contrast her as a rival to knucks in SA2 similar to Eggman/tails or ofc Sonic/shadow
@@nightlydata2181 well now there is a canon lore that Sticks exsists on Angel Island. Not doubting that Knuckles can't handle Rouge's charm and straight forwardness, but it would explain why Knuckles can handle Amy.
@@HypercomboProduction wut R u talkin bout where was this confirmed? That'd make NO SENSE to retcon AT ALL.
@@nightlydata2181 Ian Flynn. He apparently has been trying to get Sticks in the modern Sonic stories. He said he has told Sega on making her a native on Angel Island with the logic that she is really good at hiding. Sega said no to that idea but if Surge and Starline are anything to go off on, he is cooking a way to get Sticks on Angel Island somehow.
I love this and the intro! Hahaha
Also, maybe nails is too close to tails and they didn’t wanna confuse folks? Who knows. But Nails would’ve been cool.
Lol the intro! I too also love seeing character concept art, it's always interesting seeing the designing process. Her final design kinda reminds me of a "kid friendly" Jun Fudo from the Devil Lady anime/manga haha. Keep up the great work
Honestly I always think Sonic Team take liberties from classic anime/manga without blatantly making it obvious. I can definitely see some influence from. Jun Fudo even if they don’t explicitly say it 😅
Rouge is literally the Ada Wong of the Sonic universe, secret agent femme fatale. In it for herself but with a heart of gold.
It feels like she would be Knuckle’s rival and female rival would be Blaze and same for her. Anyone agree? Lol
that's an interesting idea
That sentence made zero sense
Blaze is techically the sonic of her universe but haslifestyle of knuckles
Perhaps, but wouldn't it make more sense for Amy to be her rival? I mean they embody the opposite sides of femininity, both are hard hitting women who'll knock you out if you cross them, and they also are close to their respective hedgehogs. The issue is that Amy had so little to do in SA 2, that they really didn't have any potential rivalry, especially when they're the only girls on each side, making it a pretty big missed opportunity.
@@michaelfireheart8300 Fair enough in some ways I guess lol
Jesus Christ, the dub for sonic X may not be optimal but at least I could show I child it with no issue- sub pulled no punches
I hope they have a live action version of her in Sonic 3.
Yeah they should introduce her in the upcoming Knuckles show with a proper back story. Just like other characters in movie.
Me too!
I forgot how Rouge the Bat was terrible towards others in the sonic the hedgehog Archie comics.
Ah yes, one of my favorite Sonic characters. Awesome job, my guy!
#BringBackRougeTheBatDominatrixOutfit
This is my head canon for Rouge Origins.
Someone working at Sega in Japan saw that the American Sonic Animated Series includes a Furry Bait Character and said "Hey lets One Up the Americans"
Aren’t they all furry bait?
8:47 cant forget about how eggman near the end of sonic x tells rouge that shes got a nice set of honkers 😂😂
I feel that Sonic X fills in the gaps for all the major plot holes in SA2 even if the show itself isn't canon.
Sonic being intentionally framed to coverup Shadow's existence...
Rouge stealing the Master Emerald in order to barter onto Eggman's team...
Of course you had to start the video with that clip, lol
Let's not forget she was supposed to be a spider mobian as a picture of her can be found in Adventure 1 in the burger shop.
I’m heavily considering rewatching sonic x in Japanese now 😂
It’s a whole other experience
It's far better than the 4Kids version, but that's not saying much.
@@HenshinFanatic LOL
Believe me when I say this, Rouge has DEFINETLY improved in Sonic Prime on Netflix, no longer do I see her as a Rule 34 Icon, but more like a fully fledged character who can be a little fun sometimes.
...She was already an interesting character cloaked in mystery though?
@@CoralCopperHead Eeeeh... Too flirty, though.
Rouge was literally my first childhood crush. I would love for her to become more fleshed out character instead of just being a background one. I think they could make a whole cartoon about her just stealing stuff and breaking into places.
Im so glad i have Sonic Adventure 2 10th anniversary edition birthday pack for Dreamcast, i really love this character
Omfg great video but you will forever be in my top 3 channel's specifically for the Eurotrip snip lol
so glad you mentioned sonic battle
Rouge is pretty cool 😁
I love your videos!!
sega: ok guys, we need a new character, do y'all have any ideas?
sega employee: big titty bat mommy
sega: *what?*
I actually laughed at “overshadowed.”
Finally, some good Rouge content.
I hope this isn't random but the art style in 7:28 is really cool, does anybody know who made this
I really like the concept of Rouge working for gun to be forgiven for her crimes, it gels well with her good/bad persona
Without Rouge, Shadow and Omega would either get nothing done or destroy a city within minutes. Depends on how angsty Shadow feels that day (Omega is always down for robo-genocide, and possibly regular murder.)
Rouge isn't necessarily a better person, but she sure is easier to work with.
10:45 I’m surprised nobody is talking about this particular shot. I mean, its very suggestive how she’s holding the chaos emeralds “there”
Gerald robotnik remind me of professor oak
I do love the enemies to lovers for rouge and knuckles. And the netflix show showcases their bond
Man, I missed out on the real Sonic X Rougue! I watched the 4Kids! dub as a kid so lots of censorship. Though it's probably for the best. I don't think my very religious parents would have let me keep watching Sonic if they heard a bat woman ask an echidna if he's good in bed lmao.
something i feel like was missing with Archie Rouge
was her having a connection to the Yagyu Clan, a ninja clan of Mobian Bats
i mean Espio is the son of the leader of the Shinobi Clan, a ninja clan of Mobian Chameleons
and the 2 clans share a connection
Let's hope she is in the 3rd movie.
Love this character & hope they use her more, without reducing the size of her "charms"
You mean her one polygon.
You mean her bosom?
You know the video is going to be a banger when there's 169 likes
Is it wrong if I had a crush on Rouge as a kid? Gosh darn you Sega!
*Ada Wong Fursona*
Great video. Love and will always love sonic 🩵💙😊
If s.a.2 gets a remake Jessica Dicicco would be a good voice for her! And maybe if they add team hooligan into modern games, we'd see competitive or outclassed and vulnerable side to her personality wich is rare for Sonic characters.
Love your videos
Thank you!
She remind me of Jessie from pokemon
I know this video is more about the origin inside the plot, it would be great who created her, draw & write.
I've only ever seen the 4kids dub of Sonic X, so I missed out on alot of the dirty adult jokes lol. "I guess you're into S&M" was replaced with "You're pretty tough for an old lady" in the US dub, so sad
Not saying that “oh Sonic is too kid friendly” or smth like that, but it seems perfectly in character for Rouge to make those jokes in the JP version of Sonic X
Brilliant intro.
Not a furry but Rouge can get it
Plot twist: Rouge is her codename. Her name is probably some Plain-Jane name like... well, Jane.
0:03 this had me dying because knuckles is my favorite character and I can relate to him sooo much 🤣
I gravitate more twords the concept design Nails, heck she is even my pfp!😅
Rouge The Bat easily comes off like if Amy wasn't chasing Sonic and actually embraced her body as well as her own goals. I mean they easily could've been rivals in SA 2, if they actually did more with Amy, since they're both hard hitting women and embody different sides of femininity, but alas that never happened as Amy was just there in SA 2. Though I think it's obvious why Rouge is obsessed with jewels and Knuckles, cause he has family jewels that she wants at night time.
Oh my days
I wasn't expecting that opening (but I'm not upset).
I’m getting the feeling that sonic and the Archie comics gave the furries the ground work they needed to spread out.
They gave Rouge a WHAT outfit!?😳🤯🤯
Domimatrix
Lol all of Rouge’s music sounds sexy.
Does anyone know the Sonic X episode where Rouge says those things?
8:26 i love that face lmao
Cream the Rabbit. Nail the Bat.
😆 That was a good use of a Bootsy meme
I like Rouge the Bat and she is one of my favourite sonic characters / female
Rouge the Bat. Suspicion . Because maybe care for her mother. What about that 1996? Year Less known movoe with Sonic Tails , The Owl scientist , the girl with tail ?,glue bot , and the meme introduction of metal Sonic
Let's be real, yall. She's the sex appeal of the series...
...and that what I like😎
👍
Wife Bat!
Sonic X's Rouge is the most perfect incarnation of the character
I would be pretty disappointed if she's not in Sonic movie 3 she's plays a big part in Shafow story
What is the animation at 0:15 & 4:41? 🤔
I really like the rouge x knuckles ship, because it has so much interesting topics. For example, Rouge is a sexy jewel thief who's after the master emerald, and knuckles is the one protecting the master emerald.
I really like sonic prime just because of how more we get to see rouge. Sometimes I really think that the two have feeling for each other on that show.
I always thought rouge was an orphan like Catwoman so she got a tasting for the high life
Man, I don’t remember those lines when I watched Sonic X in Japanese with english subs. Either because I was 14 and didn’t understand those lines or it was a different translation.
Bruh the opening meme lol
Can you please make version of this video, but without mentioning the Sonic comics.
Fun fact about all the sonic lore
sega said .... Everything is Canon so even the Archie Comic
It's possible that rouge was forced to work for Gun to pay for her crimes
Bruh shadows voice when he rouge the bat was so frickin INACCURATE
Yeah If She's A Treasure Hunter Was Very Similar To Captain Syrup From Wario Land And Tron Bonne From Mega Man. But Rouge And Tron Bonne They Are The Treasure Hunter Anti-Heroines And They Became Former Enemy Toward The Protagonists
that also happend in sonic x
2:37 shadouge moment
Well the next Sonic movie features Shadow so we better get Rouge with all her “reasons” on the big screen.
Please do Cream the Rabbit. Miss her
Topaz and Rouge are definitely engaged.
Even If Was Daisy From Mario Franchise But She's Not An Anti-Heroine And She Was The Best Friend Of Peach And We're Rivalries, But Rouge Was The Rival To Amy And Knuckles. If Daisy Was An Antagonist Just Like Mira Fermin From Bakugan Battle Brawlers But She's Not Evil. If Rouge Was The Main Villainess To Become Enemy Toward Their Friends Was Similar Lusamine From Pokemon Sun And Moon. If Rouge The Bat Was An Anti-Heroine Or Villain. Even Marine The Raccoon Was The Counterpart To Daisy
hey
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6:19
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dont gun also have rouge work for them to make up for her crimes in sonic x
make a video on jet