Yes, and Jeff's voice was similar. It's a shame they were estranged, Tim having "split" (Jeff's words) when Jeff was a baby, resulting in Jeff not knowing Tim as his father.
@@hughphillips1427Tim just sang with a intentionally darker voice, Jeff clearly was trying to distinct his own vocal style from his father. Tim was more interested in displaying masculinity and Jeff was happy to sound androgynous
So great to see this interview. I was there. His insights, his brilliance, his mental associations were incredible. He amazed me every time out. This interview was/is a superb example. Thanks for posting.
Hi Lee, I love your work with Tim, & just wondering will an album ever be released of 'Starsailor' (1 of the most brilliant albums ever) live circa 1970, or 'The Outcast of the Islands' ??
I'm reading your book 'Blue Melody' for the second time. It made me cry. It is so full of love for Tim Buckley and his artistry. Thank you so much for writing it and thank you for the music. Tim's voice has touched me more than anything else in the world. You are a wonderful friend for keeping his memory alive.
''Taught business.not Humanity''! could listen to Tim n Others As No One is Assumed Weird.!Everybody.can really speak.I Beleive Theres Still These Folk.!Now But Theres Far Too.Much 'On the Fence'..we tend to go to Dave Chappelle.As He's Totally Aware of All of these Things within these Times.'!infact What i rpt'd up above could easily be Somthing Dave Could Say..in his Style n way.!#Seems too many Are Afraid of Risking Much So its Just Better to Accept The Horror.Vs Putting a Target on 1self..!i get both points .!
I gotta say he had a very modern perspective on world issues, and it breathes volumes into the situations of today. He had a strong voice on multiple fronts.
Hey man, I think a lot about the toasters, dig. I mean, the man gets some money, and buys some bread. At the same time, he uses the money to buy a toaster, dig. But the man is power crazed, and he starts looking at the toaster. Before long, he gets to toasting the bread. He's stuffing innocent bread into this toaster, which is like an electrical death machine, man. He's like a Nazi, sending bread to its death. It's like a bread genocide, ya dig.
2:30 made me cry. Advocating for harm reduction back then took real bravery. You could tell he got scared/self conscious and felt he should change the subject.
It was '71 and I was managing a band that shared the same rehearsal studio in Venice, Ca as Tim did. That's where were met. The hall was near the water and you could sit one the roof, overlooking the waves and smoke joints and talk. We did just that when my group was rehearsing. Tim was a tortured soul, a musical genius and very charismatic person with a great sense of humor...but sarcastic. We lost him far to soon..he was just breaking out. Just like Jeff, they were both lost tragically.
I think Jeff was a lot more soft spoken and looser than Tim during interviews. Plus it seemed like Jeff was alot more fun to be around with honestly haha
Tim speaks the truth what a smart man we serve people we serve life. Caring is important. What a smart guy what I'm hearing I wish people were more like this about politics.
Tim Buckley....made some amazing music, had some amazing viewpoints on the issues, and made an amazing son Jeff, who did great things, with a great and emotional voice, and died young....is that OK? with all of you? Great artists and visionaries died, when they sholdn't have....we need to leave our mourning aside and celebrate them as the great poets they succeeded in being.
This interview shows that he was a very smart and insightful person in addition to being a superb musician. He's basically talking about mind control through religion, censorship, government, materialism, the electronic media and corporations. He then addresses the spirtual "inner" world being more real than the outside physical world that we get caught up in. Way ahead of his time he was. A lot of what he says jives with the current New Age/Ufology/Conspiracy Theory network.
also, i want to thank all those folks who have taken the time and effort to upload all the "new" stuff on buckley. a year ago it seemed hopeless that there was anything on tb out there. i've been gone a year and it's great to see the new stuff.
It's Crazy how ahead of his time Tim was Mentally... He is so much like Jeff but almost like the Dark side... Jeffs Musical Gift and General Kindness made him a True Shining Light.
reading back on a few pages of these comments its remarkable to find how someone who was trying to espouse a loving spiritual approach to life could stir up such anger and rancour.Its very rare for an artist (or anyone else for that matter) to be truly understood and rarer still for an artist to actually live up to the ideas they champion.And why should they be any better than anyone else just because they can conceive of a better way.Thought his singing was lovely and some songs were strong
"You don't serve your countrymen, you serve life, you serve people, whatever you personally can give to people, not a country that's secondary." That's such a smart quote because everyone has something different to give or offer. Some people are in situations where they can't give something, whether it's love, money, support, etc. because they're trapped or others prevent them from giving. I really believe most people want to give. Yet the world is full of poverty. The 1% rich stop love.
how could he be any more clear? what is with you people... he spoke musician in jazz idiom because that was his world... this clip is very old... about forty years ago he was pointing out what oil companies were doing and are still doing and he was right... listen better...
He knew it all. Especially how he rounds off at the end of this interview. Unfortunately he thought hard drugs were a good idea.The 1960s were niave like that until him ,Hendix Joplin and Morrison&many friends people knew started dropping like flies before their 30th birthday'messed up his professional career.That would have been immense without hard drugs.
TV is hypnotizing and especially during Tim's time, with sitcoms -- the world was all fantasy and made regular people feel like crap because they didn't live in that lifestyle of perfection.
I know there is a lot we now know so much more about the ocean but we don't just 'look at it'...the ocean provide us oxygen (the coral reefs)...even more so than trees. I am so glad that people have been trying to love our earth for a long time now...let's keep it up!
I love Tim Buckley after this because he is right and this was 40 years ago -- reality is inside us, not the superficial but impressive or unimpressive trappings. How happy Jeff Buckley would have been if he found more time for him -- and, well - what's over is over.
"...so I say, don't serve that, man, serve people" !!! And some would say our generation was self-centered because this was (and in some cases, still is) our ethos. That young dude in the suit and tie - he's young, but he's the epitome of "something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?" And the dialogue between Tim & Joseph Heller is interesting.
The bespectacled guy in suit and tie (I'm a poet) is obviously being set up as Mr Straight, as THE MAN, but he does speak sense. He's polite and articulate. One might not agree with his views but he's entitled to our attention. And, to be honest, he's more focussed than Tim in this conversation. Don't know why that could be...
@@Dermot2927 Yeah actually true, the dude with the tie didn't say anything wrong or square from this fragment, but Tim wasn't willing to hear him out and it made the tie guy look like he was against what Tim said.
It’s not really crazy. He just didn’t have the vocabulary to express his feelings. I think the gist of what he was saying was very profound, very similar to what John Lennon and Bob Dylan were saying.
@@SleepBeforeYouThink Yeah, it comes over as crazy, because he wasn't coming out of his words easily. That makes it sound scattered and messy, but what he said actually makes sense.
Jeff was in a totally different era, man. ANd yet there are so many similarities in the 'cool cat', yet eloquent, way they both speak and gesticulate. There are even comparable similarities in their intellegent, slightly scatterbrained, humaitarian point of views- it's crazy to think that they did not know each other.. Plus Jeff was seemingly cooler cause he learnt from the hippies' mistakes.. he grew up with them!
It's the speaking voice for me. I just came off a Jeff Buckley interview k-hole and watched every bit of footage available. It's very eerie. They sound the fucking same. People tend to pick up the mannerisms and general speaking patterns of people they're around but Jeff and Tim did not know each other. It's 100% genetics and it's freaky. I know we inherent a lot from our parents but this demonstrates it in a way I've never seen. Very soft, bell-like angelic voices with such warm tones. It's a unique sound. Jeff came off as being much more open to experience and sincere. Perceptive, pure, and kind. Vulnerable. I can't say enough good about Jeff's apparent demeanor. Some people communicate with their entire being and they're so charismatic naturally. Like the sun. It warms everyone around them. And they don't even have to try. You just want to be near them. Doing anything. Or doing nothing at all. Jeff was that way and it showed. That's the stark difference I pick up on between the two as it relates to interviews and interacting with others. I think Tim comes off as being rather patronizing to be honest. Bullheaded and stubborn. The first few seconds demonstrate the similarities the best. Tim's tone gets harsher as this video goes on. I pick up a lot of smugness, especially in the exchange with the guy in the glasses. But in general the sound and manner of speaking is nearly identical between this "father" and son.
In Truth, we are all the same when we speak, Truth. The spirit, does not lie. Both Tim and Jeff were honest spirits whilst on Te(lie)vision being questioned by “authority figures” who tried conversing with them by using ‘small talk’ or asking questions on topics that would box them in, thereby making the public view them a certain way- which was usually 9/10 negatively. It’s spirit. It’s Truth. Continue to speak yours. Remember, we are all-stars. Not allstars, ALL of US are STARS. We are all SUNS. We are all SONS of The One. You Shine your Light by expressing Inner Self, outwardly.
@@AtinyElring I agree with your premise, generally speaking. Still, I feel relatively comfortable making my original claim even if it's based off just this interview. Everyone has bad days and sometimes that means we must follow through with a previously made obligation even if we're in a bad mood. To me, this interaction demonstrates behavior that I think reveals a lot about Tim's fragile ego and the extent he'll go to maintain the appearance of moral high ground for himself. When that's challenged you can him begin to spiral. That's when the defense mechanisms are enacted and he doubles-down. In Tim Buckley, I read narcassistic tendencies that I've never seen in Jeff.
@@astridvvv9662 I'm sorry, but Tim was right in everything that he said, no smugness about it. I feel like you are just biased because of your clear admiration of Jeff, and your vilification of Tim because of his relationship with Jeff.
Tim made some very valid points. It isn't about serving the system, government, or anything else...people are definitely what matter, regardless of the boundaries we place on each other. If everyone had that mindset, the world would be a better place. Organized religion has done a lot more bad than good it seems. Individual spirituality is much more important than a organization that proclaims God, while it begs for money and argues amongst themselves as to who is organizing the potlucks.
For all of Tim's words of wisdom, it's too bad his deeds weren't always up to par. Notably abandoning his family and children. And then killing himself by OD'ing while only in his late 20's.
hahaha, cats? bread? this is fucking awesome! what a wonderful historical document, not just of tim but of the 60s/70s counterculture. i also love the dude in the glasses. poindexters just don't come that bonafide anymore. some good points made on both sides though. thanks for posting! if there's any more, let's see it!
Mentions dope and instantly starts fidgeting. the very thing that would kill him, was that foreshadowing or bias confirmation (because we know how it ended)?
This is the first time I've ever heard Tim talking...interesting. Also I find the last word from the host (?) funny when he said, "Hope you make it back in good health" Does anyone know how long this was before he died?
"how the blunt imposition of the idea of a country is in itself a form of violence" hold on to that idea.... and tim's wasted on tv thats why he's so deep and honest
Tim Buckley was a consummate artist. He was too fragile for this world’s evils and would not have been able to abide the political nonsense surrounding us today. Enjoyed the guy who brought up the Federalist Society. It’s appropriate for then and now.
That guy in purple shirt... Isn't he STANLEY OWSLEY?? I mean the famous Lsd producer and also the inventer of Grateful Dead's "wall of sound". I'm pretty sure it's him.
Would you believe Buckley was up for the role of Woody Guthrie before he OD'd. He toured himself to death & wound up owing more money than when he started. He ended up a chauffeur for Sly Stone. Joseph Heller wrote a funny beautiful masterpiece. I saw Buckley @ Carnegie Hall and he was great but I never thought he was so small and so strung out.
I was wondering what ever happened to Tim Buckley's wife, Mary? (I think that is her name) They met in high school and she is the mother of Jeff Buckley.I don't believe I have ever read any interviews there might have been with her or what she is doing these days. Don't know if she ever went on tours when Tim or Jeff were playing.
I think he comes across as an intelligent but untrained mind. He's so aware of what was going on around him. We can not listen to the words he uses in today's context, it has to be heard within the context of his time. And within that context he has some bright thoughts.
I don't know what exactly you mean by "we can not listen to the words he uses in today's context", I thought it was pretty understandable. He just seemed a bit scattered to me. His ideas are more true than ever though, at that time it was tv he's talking about, nowadays it's our smart phones with social media and they're everywhere. But also like he said, the real ones know what real life is.
I think these guys were like, "Let's sit down with some people who seem like cool people and 'pretend' to talk about the government. Then he showed up and they were like, "What are your thoughts?" but they didn't know that he was something more than they had ever encountered: a person who was awake and in touch with the true energy of the universe. He was stating exactly what was happening and that those forces would only grow stronger. i.e.: present day world
Damn. Now that I see Tim in video I realize that Jeff looked a lot more like him than I thought. Such strong, beautiful genes lol
Yes, and Jeff's voice was similar. It's a shame they were estranged, Tim having "split" (Jeff's words) when Jeff was a baby, resulting in Jeff not knowing Tim as his father.
@@YawasagE Jeff did know him. He stayed with Tim for a week, before Tim's death. Tim was trying to get close to his son
It scary how much he looks like him more so how he sounds like him
@@YawasagETim’s voice is much deeper than Jeff’s when he sang.
@@hughphillips1427Tim just sang with a intentionally darker voice, Jeff clearly was trying to distinct his own vocal style from his father. Tim was more interested in displaying masculinity and Jeff was happy to sound androgynous
So great to see this interview. I was there. His insights, his brilliance, his mental associations were incredible. He amazed me every time out. This interview was/is a superb example. Thanks for posting.
Hi Lee, I love your work with Tim, & just wondering will an album ever be released of 'Starsailor' (1 of the most brilliant albums ever) live circa 1970, or 'The Outcast of the Islands' ??
I'm reading your book 'Blue Melody' for the second time. It made me cry. It is so full of love for Tim Buckley and his artistry. Thank you so much for writing it and thank you for the music. Tim's voice has touched me more than anything else in the world. You are a wonderful friend for keeping his memory alive.
Woah Mr Lee himself :o
''Taught business.not Humanity''! could listen to Tim n Others As No One is Assumed Weird.!Everybody.can really speak.I Beleive Theres Still These Folk.!Now But Theres Far Too.Much 'On the Fence'..we tend to go to Dave Chappelle.As He's Totally Aware of All of these Things within these Times.'!infact What i rpt'd up above could easily be Somthing Dave Could Say..in his Style n way.!#Seems too many Are Afraid of Risking Much So its Just Better to Accept The Horror.Vs Putting a Target on 1self..!i get both points .!
Lee, thank you for the music, the books, and existing.
All the best,
Mark
I gotta say he had a very modern perspective on world issues, and it breathes volumes into the situations of today. He had a strong voice on multiple fronts.
"Anything that can be put in a lot of people's homes is made for bread."
This is especially true for toasters.
And butter
shieeeet, dats right
Crumbs, cat!
Corned beef and piccalilli...MADE for bread.
Hey man, I think a lot about the toasters, dig. I mean, the man gets some money, and buys some bread. At the same time, he uses the money to buy a toaster, dig. But the man is power crazed, and he starts looking at the toaster. Before long, he gets to toasting the bread. He's stuffing innocent bread into this toaster, which is like an electrical death machine, man. He's like a Nazi, sending bread to its death. It's like a bread genocide, ya dig.
2:30 made me cry. Advocating for harm reduction back then took real bravery. You could tell he got scared/self conscious and felt he should change the subject.
I am glad he kept talking
It was '71 and I was managing a band that shared the same rehearsal studio in Venice, Ca as Tim did. That's where were met.
The hall was near the water and you could sit one the roof, overlooking the waves and smoke joints and talk. We did just that when my group was rehearsing.
Tim was a tortured soul, a musical genius and very charismatic person with a great sense of humor...but sarcastic.
We lost him far to soon..he was just breaking out.
Just like Jeff, they were both lost tragically.
Such a great musician and a great interviewer. Rest in peace Tim Buckley.
1947-1975.
see Tim alive here is priceless.
god bless the youtube !
Genetics are sooooo strong. His speaking voice, singing voice, intellect, physical beauty was all passed down to Jeff. Wish he’d been more of a dad.
I also wonder if Jeff ever saw this footage of his dad. He died a decade before RUclips
Wow... This is almost 50 years ago and the things he speaks of coukd be TODAY. We are stuck in a machine
Go on Tim lad, lovely attitude my brother. RIP - your music fills me with joy in a dark world, Alhamdulillah
Holy shit. Jeff sounds so much like Tim here. Same exact talking voice. Mannerisms. And they have the same face. It's so cool!
Riah Jones this is tim
It's amazing, Jeff looked and sounded a lot like his dad
I think Jeff was a lot more soft spoken and looser than Tim during interviews. Plus it seemed like Jeff was alot more fun to be around with honestly haha
@@uhgottadime yeh would’ve loved to have seen in at siné.
@@jgus4312 definitely!
Tim speaks the truth what a smart man we serve people we serve life. Caring is important. What a smart guy what I'm hearing I wish people were more like this about politics.
I love how incoherent his rambling is, but poignant at the same time. he's like a stereotypical hippie. and yet he's just pure awesome.
MAN ALL THESE CATS ARE GETTING BREAD FOR NOTHIN, YA DIGG?
Just listening now... 'Chase the blues away'....I'm in awe!
Tim Buckley....made some amazing music, had some amazing viewpoints on the issues, and made an amazing son Jeff, who did great things, with a great and emotional voice, and died young....is that OK? with all of you? Great artists and visionaries died, when they sholdn't have....we need to leave our mourning aside and celebrate them as the great poets they succeeded in being.
LOVE you,Tim.R.I.P brother.
Yo this hip cat's got me jivin, ya dig?
This interview shows that he was a very smart and insightful person in addition to being a superb musician. He's basically talking about mind control through religion, censorship, government, materialism, the electronic media and corporations. He then addresses the spirtual "inner" world being more real than the outside physical world that we get caught up in. Way ahead of his time he was. A lot of what he says jives with the current New Age/Ufology/Conspiracy Theory network.
I wonder wether Buckley and Zappa ever met. Same perspective in thoughts...
Am I wrong, but is this 40 year old interview more open and more daring than any interview than one today.
He seemed to be a person who wasnt born yet. Born int the 90ths not in the 40ths comparing, clothes and speeaking to the others in this video.
Great! wish i could find more Tim on here....Criminally underrated....Love you Tim! Peace
also, i want to thank all those folks who have taken the time and effort to upload all the "new" stuff on buckley. a year ago it seemed hopeless that there was anything on tb out there. i've been gone a year and it's great to see the new stuff.
It's Crazy how ahead of his time Tim was Mentally... He is so much like Jeff but almost like the Dark side... Jeffs Musical Gift and General Kindness made him a True Shining Light.
No mention that JOSEPH HELLER is in this? Tim Buckley and Joseph Heller in a sociopolitical debate? How wild is that?
reading back on a few pages of these comments its remarkable to find how someone who was trying to espouse a loving spiritual approach to life could stir up such anger and rancour.Its very rare for an artist (or anyone else for that matter) to be truly understood and rarer still for an artist to actually live up to the ideas they champion.And why should they be any better than anyone else just because they can conceive of a better way.Thought his singing was lovely and some songs were strong
"You don't serve your countrymen, you serve life, you serve people, whatever you personally can give to people, not a country that's secondary."
That's such a smart quote because everyone has something different to give or offer. Some people are in situations where they can't give something, whether it's love, money, support, etc. because they're trapped or others prevent them from giving. I really believe most people want to give. Yet the world is full of poverty. The 1% rich stop love.
Dad of my hero singer/songwriter Just another genius...
I wish we still had things like this today on TV
Intelligent, thoughtful and respectful conversation from both sides. Where is that now? Great interview and prophetic discussion.
how could he be any more clear? what is with you people... he spoke musician in jazz idiom because that was his world... this clip is very old... about forty years ago he was pointing out what oil companies were doing and are still doing and he was right... listen better...
He knew it all. Especially how he rounds off at the end of this interview. Unfortunately he thought hard drugs were a good idea.The 1960s were niave like that until him ,Hendix Joplin and Morrison&many friends people knew started dropping like flies before their 30th birthday'messed up his professional career.That would have been immense without hard drugs.
I just fell even more in love with Tim Buckley.
Such a great singer/songwriter
I dig Tim Buckley's music; the cat laid down some groovy tracks, man. Nobody better...
Your vernacular brings me right back to the late 60’s -70’s !
Love him, soo ahead of his time.
absolute GENIUS
Tim's reflections are more rational than Jeff's. Jeff was complex but more criptical and casual than his father. Two smart minds, anyway.
Is criptical a word
TV is hypnotizing and especially during Tim's time, with sitcoms -- the world was all fantasy and made regular people feel like crap because they didn't live in that lifestyle of perfection.
Just as relevant todays age of social media as it was back then
gosh !..these guys are so brilliant..wow!..geez..
I know there is a lot we now know so much more about the ocean but we don't just 'look at it'...the ocean provide us oxygen (the coral reefs)...even more so than trees. I am so glad that people have been trying to love our earth for a long time now...let's keep it up!
this man is right tim knew it all back 40 years ago
which rings more than true today way to go tim
Just listening to his voice now singing 'Chase the blues away'....I' iawe
He was so Wise and so Talented, a Cool Guy Totally Missed..We All Lost an Universal Voice with His Untimely Death❤️🙏
Thank you for this post
His look was very ahead of his time!
Tim's right about TV and the world.
Tim Buckley is a smart man I agree with him about this situation.
I love that people are passing on Joseph Heller in this interview, the writer of Catch-22.
Tim's are such deep people and Mr. Buckley was no exception. The man had a certain intellect not many will understand....RIP Tim.
I love Tim Buckley after this because he is right and this was 40 years ago -- reality is inside us, not the superficial but impressive or unimpressive trappings. How happy Jeff Buckley would have been if he found more time for him -- and, well - what's over is over.
i loved it when he says about it about whats inside, stuff like your suit and how much perfume you wear doesent matter!
profound, wonderful insight. I love the little point of acknowledgment at 3.54, cool as ice.
Time is so aware. He is a songbird to a generation ready for change
"...so I say, don't serve that, man, serve people" !!! And some would say our generation was self-centered because this was (and in some cases, still is) our ethos.
That young dude in the suit and tie - he's young, but he's the epitome of "something is happening here, but you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Jones?"
And the dialogue between Tim & Joseph Heller is interesting.
The bespectacled guy in suit and tie (I'm a poet) is obviously being set up as Mr Straight, as THE MAN, but he does speak sense. He's polite and articulate. One might not agree with his views but he's entitled to our attention. And, to be honest, he's more focussed than Tim in this conversation. Don't know why that could be...
@@Dermot2927 Yeah actually true, the dude with the tie didn't say anything wrong or square from this fragment, but Tim wasn't willing to hear him out and it made the tie guy look like he was against what Tim said.
THIS HIP CAT IS FREAKING ME OUT WITH ALL HIS JIVE TALK MAN.
Sooo much freedom and righteousness flooding the room around 2:17
very true, you can see the connection between tim and the older guy with the suit
He looks so much like Jeff here its scary.
sounds like a bit of crazy, drugs, and genius thrown together
It’s not really crazy. He just didn’t have the vocabulary to express his feelings. I think the gist of what he was saying was very profound, very similar to what John Lennon and Bob Dylan were saying.
@@SleepBeforeYouThink Yeah, it comes over as crazy, because he wasn't coming out of his words easily. That makes it sound scattered and messy, but what he said actually makes sense.
@@SleepBeforeYouThink i think the way he expresses himself is brilliant. It’s maybe his mannerisms that may come across as strange
SO RELATIVE NOW HE WAS AMAZING RIP
..now - that`s a great document!!
Jeff was in a totally different era, man.
ANd yet there are so many similarities in the 'cool cat', yet eloquent, way they both speak and gesticulate. There are even comparable similarities in their intellegent, slightly scatterbrained, humaitarian point of views- it's crazy to think that they did not know each other..
Plus Jeff was seemingly cooler cause he learnt from the hippies' mistakes.. he grew up with them!
mmmmmm, might have to go get the dvd now!
thanks for posting!x
It's the speaking voice for me. I just came off a Jeff Buckley interview k-hole and watched every bit of footage available. It's very eerie. They sound the fucking same. People tend to pick up the mannerisms and general speaking patterns of people they're around but Jeff and Tim did not know each other. It's 100% genetics and it's freaky. I know we inherent a lot from our parents but this demonstrates it in a way I've never seen. Very soft, bell-like angelic voices with such warm tones. It's a unique sound.
Jeff came off as being much more open to experience and sincere. Perceptive, pure, and kind. Vulnerable. I can't say enough good about Jeff's apparent demeanor. Some people communicate with their entire being and they're so charismatic naturally. Like the sun. It warms everyone around them. And they don't even have to try. You just want to be near them. Doing anything. Or doing nothing at all. Jeff was that way and it showed. That's the stark difference I pick up on between the two as it relates to interviews and interacting with others. I think Tim comes off as being rather patronizing to be honest. Bullheaded and stubborn. The first few seconds demonstrate the similarities the best. Tim's tone gets harsher as this video goes on. I pick up a lot of smugness, especially in the exchange with the guy in the glasses. But in general the sound and manner of speaking is nearly identical between this "father" and son.
In Truth, we are all the same when we speak, Truth. The spirit, does not lie. Both Tim and Jeff were honest spirits whilst on Te(lie)vision being questioned by “authority figures” who tried conversing with them by using ‘small talk’ or asking questions on topics that would box them in, thereby making the public view them a certain way- which was usually 9/10 negatively.
It’s spirit. It’s Truth. Continue to speak yours.
Remember, we are all-stars. Not allstars, ALL of US are STARS. We are all SUNS. We are all SONS of The One. You Shine your Light by expressing Inner Self, outwardly.
@@AtinyElring I agree with your premise, generally speaking. Still, I feel relatively comfortable making my original claim even if it's based off just this interview.
Everyone has bad days and sometimes that means we must follow through with a previously made obligation even if we're in a bad mood. To me, this interaction demonstrates behavior that I think reveals a lot about Tim's fragile ego and the extent he'll go to maintain the appearance of moral high ground for himself. When that's challenged you can him begin to spiral. That's when the defense mechanisms are enacted and he doubles-down. In Tim Buckley, I read narcassistic tendencies that I've never seen in Jeff.
@@astridvvv9662 I'm sorry, but Tim was right in everything that he said, no smugness about it. I feel like you are just biased because of your clear admiration of Jeff, and your vilification of Tim because of his relationship with Jeff.
@@Ghost_emoji I didn't sense any smugness in this interview either. And nothing bullheaded and stubborn. And I'm saying this as a Jeff fan too.
Tim made some very valid points. It isn't about serving the system, government, or anything else...people are definitely what matter, regardless of the boundaries we place on each other. If everyone had that mindset, the world would be a better place. Organized religion has done a lot more bad than good it seems. Individual spirituality is much more important than a organization that proclaims God, while it begs for money and argues amongst themselves as to who is organizing the potlucks.
quite an eclectic panel, this is awesome, where is the rest of this program?
Bill hicks would say, `Ah, your selling that, free the world buck!`
For all of Tim's words of wisdom, it's too bad his deeds weren't always up to par. Notably abandoning his family and children. And then killing himself by OD'ing while only in his late 20's.
+LongueTiedNoLunger it was 1 child and an ex, yeah it was brash and questionable much like his junk habit. But it's not like he was Casey Anthony.
He was a muso. In the 60s.
He never asked to be your mountain...and he can't answer for himself now. So why do you feel compelled to sit in judgment?
The pure heart Hippie philosophy, so righteous, that lead to death by heroin in so many young people of those days.
hahaha, cats? bread? this is fucking awesome! what a wonderful historical document, not just of tim but of the 60s/70s counterculture. i also love the dude in the glasses. poindexters just don't come that bonafide anymore.
some good points made on both sides though. thanks for posting! if there's any more, let's see it!
Tim Buckley is quite transcendant.
Nothing he said was overly difficult to understand.
he was extremely prophetic..
especially if you think about what is happening on wall street right now
I like how he was around in my city
It is weird.....how much tim sounds like Jeff.....sometimes I think Jeff died to be back with his father and be happy
Mentions dope and instantly starts fidgeting. the very thing that would kill him, was that foreshadowing or bias confirmation (because we know how it ended)?
This is the first time I've ever heard Tim talking...interesting. Also I find the last word from the host (?) funny when he said, "Hope you make it back in good health" Does anyone know how long this was before he died?
So much alike,he new the dark side also.they got him aswell.
Thanks for explaining. I think I get what he was trying to say.
Omg! Jeff sound and look like his dad!!!! Wow!
"how the blunt imposition of the idea of a country is in itself a form of violence" hold on to that idea.... and tim's wasted on tv thats why he's so deep and honest
Tim was on the money...
Tim Buckley was a consummate artist. He was too fragile for this world’s evils and would not have been able to abide the political nonsense surrounding us today. Enjoyed the guy who brought up the Federalist Society. It’s appropriate for then and now.
That guy in purple shirt... Isn't he STANLEY OWSLEY?? I mean the famous Lsd producer and also the inventer of Grateful Dead's "wall of sound". I'm pretty sure it's him.
is truth a smudge when its in opposition to religious proselytizing @brucefetter ?
Ya dig?
Would you believe Buckley was up for the
role of Woody Guthrie before he OD'd.
He toured himself to death & wound up
owing more money than when he started.
He ended up a chauffeur for Sly Stone.
Joseph Heller wrote a funny beautiful masterpiece. I saw Buckley @ Carnegie Hall and he was great but I never thought he
was so small and so strung out.
I was wondering what ever happened to Tim Buckley's wife, Mary? (I think that is her name) They met in high school and she is the mother of Jeff Buckley.I don't believe I have ever read any interviews there might have been with her or what she is doing these days. Don't know if she ever went on tours when Tim or Jeff were playing.
folkmusicgirl check out “a pure drop” it’s a biography about Jeff and it goes into great detail about both Jeff and Tim, and Mary as well.
What a Beauty. Inside. Outside. Sleep Well.
I think he comes across as an intelligent but untrained mind. He's so aware of what was going on around him. We can not listen to the words he uses in today's context, it has to be heard within the context of his time. And within that context he has some bright thoughts.
I don't know what exactly you mean by "we can not listen to the words he uses in today's context", I thought it was pretty understandable. He just seemed a bit scattered to me.
His ideas are more true than ever though, at that time it was tv he's talking about, nowadays it's our smart phones with social media and they're everywhere.
But also like he said, the real ones know what real life is.
"ya dig? ..and he's gettin' bread"
he's really too beautiful to be true
LEGEND
But he wasn’t there for jeff....
J Gus finally someone said it, no matter how beautiful his ideas are, he was ultimately an absent father.
Wonder if he beat himself up about his son....
@@sunnysyl7 no he didn’t she was like didn’t want the kid so peace out.
If he had raised his son, there would have been no Tim Buckley. And therefore, there would have been no Jeff Buckley, as a singer.
@@zarthus8545 Jeff Buckley was destined to become a poet, singer, artist, musician regardless
Actually he said a lot of thoughtfull things (maybe in the process of being stoned). I agree with wizard7alchemy
I think these guys were like, "Let's sit down with some people who seem like cool people and 'pretend' to talk about the government. Then he showed up and they were like, "What are your thoughts?" but they didn't know that he was something more than they had ever encountered: a person who was awake and in touch with the true energy of the universe. He was stating exactly what was happening and that those forces would only grow stronger. i.e.: present day world
Jeff was so like his dad
Holy shit him and jeff are like the same person!! Voice, looks, performances, energy,...every single thing, its pretty fucked up
Tim knew something that most people dont..
based on interviews i find that jeff was a lot like tim.