'once upon time there was just a bad thought, and then it became feelings, and then it became language, and then it became habit, and then it became body'' Love this explanation
I must have heard a billion talks on depression and buddhism but this is by far the most erudite, clear and insightful one. Every single sentence is gold. I could feel the cloud lifting and the breeze blowing not even halfway through. Very underrated video, deserves to be seen by anybody who has suffered (by Rinpoche's definition here, a 100% of humanity).
Stephen Murrel, Im going through a depression right now (after two tears of remission )Taking meds under the supervision of two professionals of the field and I have a good knowledge of budhist fundamentals. But almost no , or not any meditation practice..at least one that you have prepared me better - if you know what I mean - to be able to defend myself against this crisis accompanied by anxiety. I haven't unfortunately this past years to meditate harder not only to be more resilient during the crisis but to avoid falling in them. Do you think you could tell me anything to tranquilize me? Thanks a lot
Im going through a depression right now (after two tears of remission )Taking meds under the supervision of two professionals of the field and I have a good knowledge of budhist fundamentals. But almost no , or not any meditation practice..at least one that you have prepared me better - if you know what I mean - to be able to defend myself against this crisis accompanied by anxiety. I haven't unfortunately this past years to meditate harder not only to be more resilient during the crisis but to avoid falling in them. Do you think you could tell me anything to tranquilize me? Thanks a lot
so do I , although I have read and know about Zen and Buddhism in general for years. .... it's a journey, to develop awareness in meditation .... love to all.
dionisio454 dionisio454 Continue ur medicines and practice meditation shamatha followed by vipassana with support Of medicines. With practice, you can reduce the dosage of medicines as you will be able to develop your own mental strength and ability to cope up with depression, control it ,overcome it and uproot it for ever.
1. Suffering is impermanent. What are you suffering about when you know it is fleeting? 2. Suffering helps develop compassion. This is a positive quality of suffering we can develop. 3. We need to understand suffering and the causes of suffering. The fundamental cause is unawareness. Suffering invites pure awareness. Awareness transcends the five skandhas (thoughts, feelinds, emotions, etc.) and are therefore unaffected by it. 4. Suffering is caused by the afflictions that cover awareness. 5. Light needs to be simply ignited in us, kindled. It can be kindled from faith, etc.
I was on anti depressants for almost 20 years, during that time i did inner daily work and then I got off the meds and WOW the back up of issues wanting to be released! I am still learning to allow ALL to come up and let them be there, I am still getting anxiety come up but I am so much clearer mentally and I want to take better care of myself too. Of course Buddhism is incredibly healing because the Dhamma is healing and it is human, not like Christianity who tells you you are born evil and a devil is out to get you at every moment and then you go to hell, Buddhism is gentle and embracing - human. I send love and healing and freedom for all ! namo arahato
...dear "heart centered", i am glad you are feeling and living better, ...i am too in a struggle with D. and A. , ...but i am sad that you are talking like that on the Christianity, ... teachings of Jesus, and his apostles are essential for life...I was very fond of Buddha teachings, read the books on zen Buddhism, ...it helped me a lot in mind perspectives, in placing myself in mind as spectator of my emotions , and other people reactions,...et cettera...but when i read the New Testament, my life turned again upside down, and something happened, i could never imagined, and I became an orthodox christian, ...but my struggle is still going on, ...i can only wish you the best on your path , take care, ....God bless you... 🙏❤️🌹
Did the medications work for such a huge time? I am on antidepressants since 2 years suffering from MDD and I am afraid whether they will work for long. Pls help!
Wow, I'm so glad I'm up at 2 AM thinking too much and stumbled across this video. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow. It's a tough subject, sensitive to some, but delivered in such a lighthearted way.
Wow! It finally clicked. I felt so mad when the Lama said you have to accept the suffering and reconnect with your parents and they did there best. Then after a few days I listened to it again and it pulled me out of like a mental fuzz. I thought this might help someone::: 1. Suffering and bad stuff happens to everyone. (Suffering is normal) 2. My parents were completely psychologically abusive narcs and didn't care enough and treated me like crap and "caused" my depression and they still don't accept it. 3. But life is crap for everyone, and suffering happens to everyone. 4. I'm lucky they fed me and sent me to school and didn't lock me in the basement :) 5. Heaps of people go through far more horror than me. 6. So I need to "reconnect" with them and focus on the positive aspects they did put into me, without holding onto hate for my abusers and letting that hate keep screwing up my life. (Does not mean I have to talk to them :) or stay physically in the difficult situation. Just stop blaming them) 7. Focus on keeping busy doing positive things in the PRESENT. 8. Watch my mind and throw out negative and hating thoughts and forcefully put a positive spin on it (study the mind). 9. Smash the old way of thinking (old government) and replace it with a new positive way of thinking (new government). 10. If suffering happens, let it, accept it, and then move on. Don't suffer because I have suffering i.e. double the suffering. 11. The pain "they" put into me is not a bad thing, because the world is full of pain and if I tit for tat and hate on my parents it just cycles. 12. If I (in my mind/heart) let go what happened truly and deeply, I know I can change the entire focus of my life with such great force that saving myself from this cyclic depression will be like saving the world. AND I WILL DO IT.
Resume: The light of awareness (clarity of the mind) dissipates suffering created by our deluded mind: clinging, aversions, unrealistic expectations, unquestioned thoughts and beliefs, anger. Most people don't want suffering but they create it unconsciously. Depression < past and not admitting the Law of Impermanence. Anxiety < belief that the future will reproduce bad events of the past. Our thoughts have an expiration date just like food and they can make us sick, so you can unsubscribe the expired thoughts that creates unnecessary suffering. Depression comes from ignorance. 3 noble truths about suffering: Prevalence of suffering (it is part of life), impermanence (transient) of suffering (This Too Shall Pass) and usefulness: it transforms you, bringing out the best of humanity: selflessness, humility, loyalty, forgiveness, understanding, tolerance, generosity, kindness, and the best value, compassion. These qualities have to be used towards the self too. So validate and accept suffering, because rejecting it only makes it stronger. We all have Buddha nature, which means we are all awakenable. Meditation (= pay attention, be present) allows you to see the mechanism of the mind. Analytical meditation is to recollect the good memories and be grateful for what you have which allows to love again. Dissipate the cloud of - thoughts (I'm not good enough, I'm not loved,...) with + ones of gratitude. Light makes you to see, darkness closes your eyes to what is. This process allows to be compassionate and forgive yourself for having had a distorted vision of your past, the story of the ego. There's a communication between your mind and your heart, you cannot be angry towards yourself anymore, you practice self-kindness which is the prerequisite for practicing kindness towards others. This puts your suffering into perspective and allows you to step out of your isolation, connect and do stuff for others which is a sign of recovery from depression. You can influence other people that are depressed through your generosity: random actions of kindness, right speech, listening to a talk like this. Help them to reconnect, to think kindly, to forgive, to rekindle love towards a person (a mom, a dad, a sibling,...) that they casted away, at least on their side. Include them in your prayers, meditations,... Society can change only when individuals make an impact on the group by raising children without giving the example of anger and violence. 1:29:19: There is school of thoughts that meditation isn't appropriate for people who are depressed, but that depends on who teaches meditation. People who are depressed need a lot of cognitive therapy, they need to be thought how to think intellectually so analytical meditation would be better than one point silent meditation. Or compassion meditation, loving-kindness meditation because it focuses on others. Or hands-on-doing-things meditation: doing your work lovingly, happily, gracefully is a very good meditation; mothers is the best full-time meditation, they don't have the time to linger in the mind.
phoenix rising how am I going to meditate when I'm diagnosed with chronic depression, if I sit in one spot and meditate, I'll just get depressed as usual, I close my eyes and all of my failures and fear of things come up in my head,no words or seminar can help me,I'm always failing in whatever I've done in life,I'm 45 years old,and never married, never had kids,I never really had friends, never had my own place, and I tried very hard to change, but anxiety and depression stopped me every time, can someone really help me,??or do I live the rest of my life like this,crying and fear of people?
Wonderful speaker. Very good sound on this video--this is very important, especially when the teacher is using a language that is not his mother tongue.
The way I found to deal with suffering, is I look for God(Good) in every situation, which is the reason to be thankful for what is happening or happened, because the suffering is the working of the righteousness of Christ in His glory through us. Cleaning our Conscience with Grace, he shows us how to have compassion on others. Thank you.
His point in the 18th minute is incisive: depression is about the past. So when you are depressed, you are unconsciously giving your present to the past. We are losing our present time to the past.
Wow! It finally clicked. I felt so mad when the Lama said you have to accept the suffering and reconnect with your parents and they did there best. Then after a few days I listened to it again and it pulled me out of like a mental fuzz. 1. Suffering and bad stuff happens to everyone. (Suffering is normal) 2. My parents were completely psychologically abusive narcs and didn't care enough and treated me like crap and "caused" my depression and they still don't accept it. 3. But life is crap for everyone, and suffering happens to everyone. 4. I'm lucky they fed me and sent me to school and didn't lock me in the basement :) 5. Heaps of people go through far more horror than me. 6. So I need to "reconnect" with them and focus on the positive aspects they did put into me, without holding onto hate for my abusers and letting that hate keep screwing up my life. (Does not mean I have to talk to them :) or stay physically in the difficult situation. Just stop blaming them) 7. Focus on keeping busy doing positive things in the PRESENT. 8. Watch my mind and throw out negative and hating thoughts and forcefully put a positive spin on it (study the mind). 9. Smash the old way of thinking (old government) and replace it with a new positive way of thinking (new government). 10. If suffering happens, let it, accept it, and then move on. Don't suffer because I have suffering. (Double the suffering) 11. The pain "they" put into me is not a bad thing, because the world is full of pain and if I tit for tat and hate on my parents it just cycles. 12. If I (in my mind/heart) let go what happened truly and deeply, I know I can change the entire focus of my life with such great force that saving myself from this cyclic depression will be like saving the world. I WILL DO IT.
It's just an expression of respect, as Christians might use about His Holiness The Pope, the Greek Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch or the Coptic Patriarch of Alexandria. Not hard to understand really.
Susan MacDougall It implies spiritual, religious significance. If you wanted to show respect to someone, I wouldn't start calling you miss holy _whatever_.
It refers to a state of being "wholy" as in having integrity in the psychological sense, where there is alignment of inner states and outer expressions ... so simply put this refers to a person who has managed to align thoughts, feelings, physiological states and behavior. People who manage to do this are held in high regard, respected...so now the meaning of the word tends toward "very respected". I hope this helps.
I see it the same way: He has not understood that depression is an illness, like a broken bone or chronic pain. This kind of teaching is dangerous half-knowledge.This lama has too little compassion to bear the suffering of depression. Tibetan Buddhism can really learn something from the West.
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'once upon time there was just a bad thought, and then it became feelings, and then it became language, and then it became habit, and then it became body'' Love this explanation
I must have heard a billion talks on depression and buddhism but this is by far the most erudite, clear and insightful one. Every single sentence is gold. I could feel the cloud lifting and the breeze blowing not even halfway through. Very underrated video, deserves to be seen by anybody who has suffered (by Rinpoche's definition here, a 100% of humanity).
i have depression and been on the meds for many years. recently got into buddhism through my suffering and and wow how amazing. thank you
thats great! Don't give up, just keep going. I have also found freedom from depression and anxiety with meditation and dhamma....:)
Stephen Murrel, Im going through a depression right now (after two tears of remission )Taking meds under the supervision of two professionals of the field and I have a good knowledge of budhist fundamentals. But almost no , or not any meditation practice..at least one that you have prepared me better - if you know what I mean - to be able to defend myself against this crisis accompanied by anxiety. I haven't unfortunately this past years to meditate harder not only to be more resilient during the crisis but to avoid falling in them. Do you think you could tell me anything to tranquilize me? Thanks a lot
Im going through a depression right now (after two tears of remission )Taking meds under the supervision of two professionals of the field and I have a good knowledge of budhist fundamentals. But almost no , or not any meditation practice..at least one that you have prepared me better - if you know what I mean - to be able to defend myself against this crisis accompanied by anxiety. I haven't unfortunately this past years to meditate harder not only to be more resilient during the crisis but to avoid falling in them. Do you think you could tell me anything to tranquilize me? Thanks a lot
so do I , although I have read and know about Zen and Buddhism in general for years. .... it's a journey, to develop awareness in meditation .... love to all.
dionisio454 dionisio454 Continue ur medicines and practice meditation shamatha followed by vipassana with support Of medicines. With practice, you can reduce the dosage of medicines as you will be able to develop your own mental strength and ability to cope up with depression, control it ,overcome it and uproot it for ever.
1. Suffering is impermanent. What are you suffering about when you know it is fleeting?
2. Suffering helps develop compassion. This is a positive quality of suffering we can develop.
3. We need to understand suffering and the causes of suffering. The fundamental cause is unawareness. Suffering invites pure awareness. Awareness transcends the five skandhas (thoughts, feelinds, emotions, etc.) and are therefore unaffected by it.
4. Suffering is caused by the afflictions that cover awareness.
5. Light needs to be simply ignited in us, kindled. It can be kindled from faith, etc.
thank you.I have done a lot of research on the subject of depression / anxiety and found this talk best and ,most helpful yet.
I was on anti depressants for almost 20 years, during that time i did inner daily work and then I got off the meds and WOW the back up of issues wanting to be released! I am still learning to allow ALL to come up and let them be there, I am still getting anxiety come up but I am so much clearer mentally and I want to take better care of myself too. Of course Buddhism is incredibly healing because the Dhamma is healing and it is human, not like Christianity who tells you you are born evil and a devil is out to get you at every moment and then you go to hell, Buddhism is gentle and embracing - human. I send love and healing and freedom for all ! namo arahato
some advices for a depressing suicide stupid boy..?
...dear "heart centered", i am glad you are feeling and living better, ...i am too in a struggle with D. and A. , ...but i am sad that you are talking like that on the Christianity, ... teachings of Jesus, and his apostles are essential for life...I was very fond of Buddha teachings, read the books on zen Buddhism, ...it helped me a lot in mind perspectives, in placing myself in mind as spectator of my emotions , and other people reactions,...et cettera...but when i read the New Testament, my life turned again upside down, and something happened, i could never imagined, and I became an orthodox christian, ...but my struggle is still going on, ...i can only wish you the best on your path , take care, ....God bless you... 🙏❤️🌹
Did the medications work for such a huge time? I am on antidepressants since 2 years suffering from MDD and I am afraid whether they will work for long. Pls help!
This is an incredible dharma talk!
Wow, I'm so glad I'm up at 2 AM thinking too much and stumbled across this video. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow. It's a tough subject, sensitive to some, but delivered in such a lighthearted way.
Wow! It finally clicked. I felt so mad when the Lama said you have to accept the suffering and reconnect with your parents and they did there best.
Then after a few days I listened to it again and it pulled me out of like a mental fuzz. I thought this might help someone:::
1. Suffering and bad stuff happens to everyone. (Suffering is normal)
2. My parents were completely psychologically abusive narcs and didn't care enough and treated me like crap and "caused" my depression and they still don't accept it.
3. But life is crap for everyone, and suffering happens to everyone.
4. I'm lucky they fed me and sent me to school and didn't lock me in the basement :)
5. Heaps of people go through far more horror than me.
6. So I need to "reconnect" with them and focus on the positive aspects they did put into me, without holding onto hate for my abusers and letting that hate keep screwing up my life. (Does not mean I have to talk to them :) or stay physically in the difficult situation. Just stop blaming them)
7. Focus on keeping busy doing positive things in the PRESENT.
8. Watch my mind and throw out negative and hating thoughts and forcefully put a positive spin on it (study the mind).
9. Smash the old way of thinking (old government) and replace it with a new positive way of thinking (new government).
10. If suffering happens, let it, accept it, and then move on. Don't suffer because I have suffering i.e. double the suffering.
11. The pain "they" put into me is not a bad thing, because the world is full of pain and if I tit for tat and hate on my parents it just cycles.
12. If I (in my mind/heart) let go what happened truly and deeply, I know I can change the entire focus of my life with such great force that saving myself from this cyclic depression will be like saving the world. AND I WILL DO IT.
Resume:
The light of awareness (clarity of the mind) dissipates suffering created by our deluded mind: clinging, aversions, unrealistic expectations, unquestioned thoughts and beliefs, anger. Most people don't want suffering but they create it unconsciously.
Depression < past and not admitting the Law of Impermanence. Anxiety < belief that the future will reproduce bad events of the past. Our thoughts have an expiration date just like food and they can make us sick, so you can unsubscribe the expired thoughts that creates unnecessary suffering. Depression comes from ignorance.
3 noble truths about suffering: Prevalence of suffering (it is part of life), impermanence (transient) of suffering (This Too Shall Pass) and usefulness: it transforms you, bringing out the best of humanity: selflessness, humility, loyalty, forgiveness, understanding, tolerance, generosity, kindness, and the best value, compassion. These qualities have to be used towards the self too.
So validate and accept suffering, because rejecting it only makes it stronger.
We all have Buddha nature, which means we are all awakenable.
Meditation (= pay attention, be present) allows you to see the mechanism of the mind. Analytical meditation is to recollect the good memories and be grateful for what you have which allows to love again. Dissipate the cloud of - thoughts (I'm not good enough, I'm not loved,...) with + ones of gratitude. Light makes you to see, darkness closes your eyes to what is. This process allows to be compassionate and forgive yourself for having had a distorted vision of your past, the story of the ego. There's a communication between your mind and your heart, you cannot be angry towards yourself anymore, you practice self-kindness which is the prerequisite for practicing kindness towards others.
This puts your suffering into perspective and allows you to step out of your isolation, connect and do stuff for others which is a sign of recovery from depression.
You can influence other people that are depressed through your generosity: random actions of kindness, right speech, listening to a talk like this. Help them to reconnect, to think kindly, to forgive, to rekindle love towards a person (a mom, a dad, a sibling,...) that they casted away, at least on their side. Include them in your prayers, meditations,...
Society can change only when individuals make an impact on the group by raising children without giving the example of anger and violence.
1:29:19: There is school of thoughts that meditation isn't appropriate for people who are depressed, but that depends on who teaches meditation. People who are depressed need a lot of cognitive therapy, they need to be thought how to think intellectually so analytical meditation would be better than one point silent meditation. Or compassion meditation, loving-kindness meditation because it focuses on others. Or hands-on-doing-things meditation: doing your work lovingly, happily, gracefully is a very good meditation; mothers is the best full-time meditation, they don't have the time to linger in the mind.
phoenix rising how am I going to meditate when I'm diagnosed with chronic depression, if I sit in one spot and meditate, I'll just get depressed as usual, I close my eyes and all of my failures and fear of things come up in my head,no words or seminar can help me,I'm always failing in whatever I've done in life,I'm 45 years old,and never married, never had kids,I never really had friends, never had my own place, and I tried very hard to change, but anxiety and depression stopped me every time,
can someone really help me,??or do I live the rest of my life like this,crying and fear of people?
@@jamesdemetro6176 listen Rinpoche's teaching again and again you will understand
Thank you for the wonderful teaching Rinpoche la 🙏
Wonderful speaker. Very good sound on this video--this is very important, especially when the teacher is using a language that is not his mother tongue.
The way I found to deal with suffering, is I look for God(Good) in every situation, which is the reason to be thankful for what is happening or happened, because the suffering is the working of the righteousness of Christ in His glory through us. Cleaning our Conscience with Grace, he shows us how to have compassion on others.
Thank you.
Thank you for your wonderful teaching.
Thank you 🙏 for this most valuable, clear, concise wisdom for transformation.
A really good talk. Thank you for reaching out and helping others including myself.
His point in the 18th minute is incisive: depression is about the past. So when you are depressed, you are unconsciously giving your present to the past. We are losing our present time to the past.
Matt N no
very eloquent and meaningful.thank you rinpoche.
your etiquette looks and speech are very similar to sikyong
Beautiful! Gyana with simplicity.
thank you very much for your teachings
Thank you!
Very helpful, thank you. X
Amazing video! Keep killing it!!
❤️❤️❤️ Wonderful
thanks
I can say that when I practised Buddhism I was much happier and my depression actually went I stop practicing and now it's coming back again
Wow! It finally clicked. I felt so mad when the Lama said you have to accept the suffering and reconnect with your parents and they did there best.
Then after a few days I listened to it again and it pulled me out of like a mental fuzz.
1. Suffering and bad stuff happens to everyone. (Suffering is normal)
2. My parents were completely psychologically abusive narcs and didn't care enough and treated me like crap and "caused" my depression and they still don't accept it.
3. But life is crap for everyone, and suffering happens to everyone.
4. I'm lucky they fed me and sent me to school and didn't lock me in the basement :)
5. Heaps of people go through far more horror than me.
6. So I need to "reconnect" with them and focus on the positive aspects they did put into me, without holding onto hate for my abusers and letting that hate keep screwing up my life. (Does not mean I have to talk to them :) or stay physically in the difficult situation. Just stop blaming them)
7. Focus on keeping busy doing positive things in the PRESENT.
8. Watch my mind and throw out negative and hating thoughts and forcefully put a positive spin on it (study the mind).
9. Smash the old way of thinking (old government) and replace it with a new positive way of thinking (new government).
10. If suffering happens, let it, accept it, and then move on. Don't suffer because I have suffering. (Double the suffering)
11. The pain "they" put into me is not a bad thing, because the world is full of pain and if I tit for tat and hate on my parents it just cycles.
12. If I (in my mind/heart) let go what happened truly and deeply, I know I can change the entire focus of my life with such great force that saving myself from this cyclic depression will be like saving the world. I WILL DO IT.
Very helpful video, thank you.
BTW his occasional "random" laughter makes me laugh :D
Disappointed that it is not subtitled, for people like me (deaf or hearing impaired)
🙏🙏🙏
Que pena que no tenga subtitulos. Ni siquiera en Inglés😵🙁☹
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There's a lot here I agree with, and a lot I don't.
Eastern philosophy > Western psychology
I like what he has to say, but don't understand the "holiness" title being used.
It's just an expression of respect, as Christians might use about His Holiness The Pope, the Greek Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch or the Coptic Patriarch of Alexandria. Not hard to understand really.
Susan MacDougall It implies spiritual, religious significance. If you wanted to show respect to someone, I wouldn't start calling you miss holy _whatever_.
Evilis Anihilis Uls why does that upset you?
Nothing like that upsets me
It refers to a state of being "wholy" as in having integrity in the psychological sense, where there is alignment of inner states and outer expressions ... so simply put this refers to a person who has managed to align thoughts, feelings, physiological states and behavior. People who manage to do this are held in high regard, respected...so now the meaning of the word tends toward "very respected". I hope this helps.
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he sounds like yoda.
lol
you don't have to go to the toilet again because the food has become toilet
Insomnia?
I dont think he knows what depression is. Depression isnt about the past. And it isnt a prolonged sadness
I see it the same way: He has not understood that depression is an illness, like a broken bone or chronic pain. This kind of teaching is dangerous half-knowledge.This lama has too little compassion to bear the suffering of depression. Tibetan Buddhism can really learn something from the West.