They said that you can get up to 45 watts “ doing high energy consumption “ and still get the same fast charging. So, it can go up to 45 watts. Plug it in and play a high end game then check.
The conclusion is out there already. Net power into the battery is capped at about 27-30w still(for the pro max), but it can pull ~10w for current power consumption. So if you are playing a game when plugged in, the battery would still charge at 30w, and it pulls closer to 40w from the adapter.
Question if you may, does a 100W Power Brick from Anker. Would dial down for a 45W - 30W - 20W - Lower? I've been hearing that Type C can adjust its needed Watts as it is way advanced than the older tech charging cables. So you dont to carry around multiple power brick for Macbooks etc. Not sure if it can maximize it's charging speed or would just go to default 20W? I hope you got time to answer.
@@micalangenburg1706The brick can be rated for a million watts and it wouldn’t matter, it will only deliver the max wattage that the device you’re charging asks for.
@@AndrewC89 thank you I was going to ask a similar question on what if the power adapter/brick was a higher wattage. Also another question is what cable and brick do you recommend for the 16 pro max?
The 15/25 watt charging speed claim may be referring the to wattage that makes it into the phone. Because mag safe is using induction charging, there is 20%-30% loss in efficiency (Typical cable charging is only a few percent of efficiency loss). So while the power source is indicating a higher wattage than claimed, I suspect the charge rate into the iPhones is roughly still at the claimed rate.
which makes a lot of sense since they're claiming it can do 50% in 30 minutes, it would need a lot more wattage to get it to go that fast, that's why I never liked the original magsafe wireless charging speed. It was just way too slow, no point in getting it over regular Qi chargers at the time
I don't think it's a bad charge, but if we compare it with the competition, I think we're falling behind. Apple's saving grace is that thanks to its software optimization, the battery lasts quite a while.
it's really bad to be honest... The 16 Pro max charges 0-100 for almost 2 hours. The charging speed falls to less than 5W after 80%... Every new chineese phone charges 0-100% in less than 40 mins. Some even in 27mins. If you are like me and never charge the phone overnight (which is bad by the way due to the additional EMF emitted by the device, possible flaming of the phone, adapter, lack of cable plugs around your head etc.), this make a huge difference. Typically I charge my phone in the morning when I wake up, while taking a shower. :) Then I have to charge it a bit more in my car because i drive with navigation all the time and then at least once or twice more during the day for 15-20 mins. I really don't care about the battery life since battery replacement is less than 100$ with apple certified center and I actually prefer to change the battery once a year because of the above mentione things I just need as much as possible juice... So, I got lied that Samsung had 45W and I went to buy the S23U, which apparently charges with 45W only the first 18-20% and then again falls to 25W or less. I again have to charge my phone for 1 hour and 10 minutes. It's better than most Pro Max's devices(especially the 16 PM which needs 2 hours), but it still sucks. Now i'm thinking of going to One+ or Xiaomi, we'll see tmrw or after two days when their respective presentations are, if they deserve any attention. I think Apple is just making fun of their users.- Let's see how much we can milk them by delivering the ancient hardware for as long as possible to keep it cheaper. As Steve Jobs once said - Apple views itself as a software company, not hardware one. But since the hardware was lacking, they've had to push it out. Now, they're neither. They don't sell software and their hardware is lacking. I bet he would turn in his grave if he sees what mediocre stuff they push out compared to their competition. Until the iPhone 6 they basically didn't had proper competition. Afterwards...
When it says 18w on the old MagSafe you aren't charging at 18 your charging at 15 there is some loss between the power source and phone so it draws slightly higher
The thing is older iPhones get up to 9V profile maximum but iPhone 16 series get up to 15V profile. And the input for the old Magsafe is about 18W not meaning that Magsafe output is 18W, maybe around 15W as claimed, because wireless efficiency.
Only comment I saw that actually explained why the charging is different! Super cool that the new iPhones now work with the 15v 3a PDO (power data object) for both MagSafe and wired charging.
Today I went to the Apple Store to ask if the iPhone 16 charges up to 45W. They told me no, that it can reach a peak of 38W but quickly lowers the charging power. I was quite disappointed.
Wireless charging is less efficient than wired charging, so you need more power for the same charging speed. The power bank is supplying approximately 30 W to have the 25 W that reach the iPhones battery. That's the reason you have to use 30 W charger to get the full (25W) MagSafe charging speed.
Ahh good question... But do remember having a heavy app like that some of the power will be going to power that game and some will be to actually charge the battery
@@forbandyson8921 samsung, sony xperia, ROG, red magic and a handful of other phones have charging bypass mode to power the phone directly from a PD source, it generates way less heat
So the new phones are just theoretically capable of charging at 15 V and 3 A (45W). So they pull up to 39/40 Watts when being heavily used while charging (in this Video i think there was a peak at around 38-39 Watts). So its just to compensate the the Watt Consumtion by the Phone. I just think they should have allowed the 16 Pro / Max to charge constantly at around 40 Watt instead of 30 Watt. Combined with the new thermal System i think it should be possible. What do you guys think ? 🤔
Waiting on a future firmware update, also battery temperature has to be raised before it can accept higher charge. Similar to how a Tesla conditions the battery for faster charging while enroute to the supercharger.
yeah but the tesla has an hvac system. the phone would need to run some processor intensive task in the background to generate heat. also the phone would need a way to cool the battery bec charging generates heat. too much heat is bad for batteries... not gonna happen my friend. the only way charging gets faster while maintaining battery health is by increasing energy density which will allow us to get a higher capacity battery in the same space we have available.
when charging wirelessly the power draw you’re measuring from the power adapter where you plugged the wireless charger in is NOT the power that the phone is getting. when you measured 20w for the 15 Pro Max the phone wasn’t getting 20w but most likely around 15w. wireless charging has a lot of power losses. the same goes for the 16s that should charge at up to 25w via MagSafe but the iPhone + MagSafe charger combo will draw about 30w total, but the phone is not getting
15:48 it’s not crazy that you’re getting more than 15 W into an older phone like the iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max. This is always been the case which is why Apple says that you need to use their official 20 W adapter to get 15 W from your MagSafe. A 15 W charger will never deliver the full 15 W to the iPhone because there’s always some power lost to heat with wireless charging.
I don’t get to focus on Fast charging it only shortens battery life. I still use my 5 W charger from the old iPhones. Charging it at night holds all day. I have no idea why I would need that. Maybe once a year when I really forget to put it on and needed it in a hurry, but usually I’d rather have my battery be good for a longer time then the iPhone being charged 10 minutes after I’m asleep opposed to two hours after I’m asleep
I also charge mostly at night and don’t feel a need to charge quickly most of the time. My XS Max does need to be charged from time to time during the day, but I can wait for a little while.
Fast charging shortening battery health and life is a gigantic myth. In fact, slow charging is waayy worse for battery health and longevity since it stays in load and heat up cycle much longer compared to modern fast charging. Every modern phone should include at least 120 watt fast wired charging to avoid embarrassment.
i dont understand why he didnt start these tests at 5%... batteries charge lower down low. basically he ruined this entire test with his lack of knowledge
I tested this myself using the Stock Apple usb C charger on my iphone 16 pro and using 240W usb C and they both give same results. I never seen going over 40W
I usually charge mine at night around 20% and I've seen it charging around 29w at the low end and 33w consistently on the high end. There were a few moments it's held around 36w for around 10-15 seconds before going back down while also spiking at 39w which feels like little random bursts of power? The phone can absolutely take the higher watts while staying pretty cool at the same time. Hoping there's a software update in the future where we see consistent 40w at least at lower states of charge. The thermal performance on this year's models is considerably better compared to last years model.
My understanding was the higher wattage charge rate was only whilst the phone was doing something power hungry. Can you test again whilst a a game is playing rather than just the lock screen.
When the news came from Apple China and screenshots were shown of the battery voltage of the 16 Pro phones, it was said that based on voltage and amperage, you could extrapolate 45w. However, it was confirmed that that peak is not achieved (not uncommon) and that with a more powerful charger and good cable, 39W was being observed. Older iPhones top out at 27W, but you can really only consistently get around 24 or so if you’re in that middle range through to 60%.
I think the reason it’s showing that it’s pulling more than the 15w of the original MagSafe is that wireless charging isn’t 100% efficient, so the extra watt or two is probably to account for the inefficiency.
Apple measured the charging speeds in terms of minutes on a 20w charger, and never mentioned 45w. I've always wondered how much difference fast charging really makes to phones. It would be interesting to see how fast it gets from 0 to 50% and how it compares to Apple's claims with a 45w charger.
I would try to charge them for a while. Batteries charge best when they are heated to the "right" temperature. So they might charge faster after a while before they start to thermal throttle.
I think that’s really sad and misleading bad advertising when they say the new 16s can charge at 45 W but yeah they don’t even get close to that and then the fifteens are supposed to charge at like 27 or but they’re not getting closer to that either. Why does Apple say they charge a high wide inputs but don’t even come close to reaching those numbers?
Id like to see you test the charging speed with the phone turned off. I would also like to see the test done using the wall charger to see if that makes a difference, it shouldn't as you have a 64watt powerbank.
@johnpineda8478 excuse my harshness, but it's tiring. I'm just trying something new because it doesn't seem like either company is innovating like I last remember. I used to marvel at Samsung's ability to come out with new hardware concepts... after years of plateaus, I'm just trying to get another perspective...
Specifications are just specifications; they don't always reflect real-world scenarios. While a device may be theoretically capable of 45 watts or whatever is claimed, actual performance depends on various factors such as battery temperature, state of charge (SOC), chipset of the power source, and battery condition, among others.
I thought others reported that the power draw is up to 45W, of which 30W could be used for charging, leaving 15W of headroom so if you use it while charging it won't affect the charging speed.
Also when using wireless charging, you cant rely on the powerbank reading, you will lose about 5 watts into heat, thats why apple says you have to use a 30 watt charger, when the powerbank says 30 ish wattts, the phone is only getting about 25
Wireless there's a power loss, that's why the higher numbers. The real power that goes to the battery is a lot lower. At least 20-25% is lost compared to wired, but the battery bank can't know that.
This 20-25 watt charging speed reminded me of my old one plus 7t that i used 6 years back. Its really funny that 16 pro max is charging like at 30-35 watt in 2024.
apple could have your phone charge at 200W but it would nuke the battery. then everyone would complain that their battery health is trash after a year of use. charging quickly generates heat and increases the chance of lithium plating which degrades the battery. the reason a lot of androids charge quickly isnt because their tech is superior, they just dont mind nuking the battery.
@@James-cq9dpthere are ways such as splitting the battery cells to reach 120w… the cope is high with this one. By the time Apple gives 65w charging there will be flying cars and Martians with terraformed societies
Charging using a mains Apple charger rather than battery banks is really the only legitimate to test whether the higher powers are available. There is so much stuff going on with USB-C handshaking that you will probably never get above 30W with any third party charging source.
The 45W charging is the port capability, not the battery charging wattage. (Just a reminder that charging is measured in watts, not mA, and so mAh is a misleading capacity metric that does not take into account the different nominal voltages modern smartphones have had). It just allows the battery to peak at 30W and still allow for 15W for other parts like screen, chip, speakers, etc.. In other words, you can charge the battery at max speed and still get peak performance at the same time (tests by geekerwan shows that the chip draws a max of about 12W still leaving plenty of headroom)
You might want to lengthen the test over a longer time to establish the charging curve from 10-90% to get more data points. I suspect the higher wattage is only attained for a short interval. We know the charging curve is essential to prolong the battery lifecycle.
I wish you would have had the phones at 1% or 0% & charged them for 30 minutes or 1 hour each at these speeds Timelapsed as well, you could have tested temperature or battery charge speed (not just wattage), you could have done a bit better video or even another video SPECIFICALLY for battery charge of these devices; or battery drain, a days works would bring you in thousands of dollars..
Did you confirm you don’t have the smart charging setting on? That charging profile looks like it’s adjusting the charge up when the battery is not low enough to risk damaging the battery.
The 45w is the theoretical peak performance. Just like with EVs, the claimed peak performance is often not reached or only for a short time during the charge. At which battery percentage it will occur remains to be seen. But in order to conclude that it will NOT reach 45W or close to that, you would have at least need to go through the WHOLE charge from 20 to 80%.
It seems that Apple is slowing the charging when the battery is near empty and when its almost full. A graph between %charge and watts drawn from the source would be nice to see. I am sure iPhone 16 pro will charge at 45w between 50% to 80% charge
Could it be that the 45 watt is the peak for when there is a MagSafe accessory attached to the iPhone? Like how the original MagSafe battery pack could charge off the back of the iPhone? There were rumours of a USB-C comeback for the battery pack.
It appears that Apple has imposed a restriction on the charging capabilities of the device. This issue could potentially be resolved through a software update in the near future, enabling the device to support 45W charging.
I was at the Dubai Mall Apple Store tech section - 2nd floor. Specifically I askee if I could buy the 30 W charger for my new iphone 16 plus and the guy just declined - he explained the same thing we saw in the above video. ❤
What power banks are you using? I don’t think you mentioned that in the video or the description. I see that the see through pyramid shaped one is Sharge. Is the other one a UGreen one? I know for sure it’s not Anker.
You should've used the phone for something intensive like opening camera and recording while plugged in to actually see the max allowed watts for charging!
I am new to watching videos on how you stay updated with the apple products their is much to learn I thank you for the time you give checking out the products than sharing it with all who watch your videos it helps me very much thank you Matt
Hey Matt. , did you test the strength of the MagSafe compared to the 15? I saw a video that the magnet is very weak. What is your experience with this?
Not sure if its explained in the video but where battery safety things disabled in settings? I know they have like an optimized charging option and stuff that may prevent it from charging at its full capacity to prevent degrading the battery
Good science. Did not know the old MagSafe can do close to 20w. Very similar to wired charging then. And really with the new ones. Going to 30w. Faster than their wired. MagSafe for the car then. Definitely faster than the built in wireless charger in the car.
Last night i used my 100w ugreen charger with 100w baseus cable with display. I plugged the usb cable to the 30w port and the output was 23w only with ip16promax
There are a lot of good comments here. Maximum speed is likely to be with power off. And with wired charging via apple adapters. Also with the setting of optimised charging off. But still very interesting video. Have you compared the same test earlier with other phones? Either iPhones or other systems, compared to the claimed charging speed and the experienced one?
They said that you can get up to 45 watts “ doing high energy consumption “ and still get the same fast charging. So, it can go up to 45 watts. Plug it in and play a high end game then check.
Can confirm that I was able to get 40W into the 16 pro max when charging while running a benchmark test
Wonder about the heat tho during that
@@Boblannister Charging speed proportional to rate of energy dissipation it seems?
Don't forget to bring your thermometer
The conclusion is out there already. Net power into the battery is capped at about 27-30w still(for the pro max), but it can pull ~10w for current power consumption. So if you are playing a game when plugged in, the battery would still charge at 30w, and it pulls closer to 40w from the adapter.
Question if you may, does a 100W Power Brick from Anker. Would dial down for a 45W - 30W - 20W - Lower? I've been hearing that Type C can adjust its needed Watts as it is way advanced than the older tech charging cables. So you dont to carry around multiple power brick for Macbooks etc. Not sure if it can maximize it's charging speed or would just go to default 20W?
I hope you got time to answer.
@@micalangenburg1706The brick can be rated for a million watts and it wouldn’t matter, it will only deliver the max wattage that the device you’re charging asks for.
@@AndrewC89 thank you I was going to ask a similar question on what if the power adapter/brick was a higher wattage. Also another question is what cable and brick do you recommend for the 16 pro max?
The 15/25 watt charging speed claim may be referring the to wattage that makes it into the phone. Because mag safe is using induction charging, there is 20%-30% loss in efficiency (Typical cable charging is only a few percent of efficiency loss). So while the power source is indicating a higher wattage than claimed, I suspect the charge rate into the iPhones is roughly still at the claimed rate.
which makes a lot of sense since they're claiming it can do 50% in 30 minutes, it would need a lot more wattage to get it to go that fast, that's why I never liked the original magsafe wireless charging speed. It was just way too slow, no point in getting it over regular Qi chargers at the time
First thing I thought when I saw the first 2 minutes of the video…. There is so much misinformation in regards to induction charging…
I don't think it's a bad charge, but if we compare it with the competition, I think we're falling behind. Apple's saving grace is that thanks to its software optimization, the battery lasts quite a while.
Yes, but when it runs out, it takes a while and if I'm paying a lot of money for a phone, I'd like to have the latest technology.
@@pondbrad47 You're right, but it is what it is. I'm looking for a case for my iPhone that is highly adaptable to different types of loads.
Mine is Elite from Vionentus and it doesn't hinder any of the loads.
it's really bad to be honest... The 16 Pro max charges 0-100 for almost 2 hours. The charging speed falls to less than 5W after 80%... Every new chineese phone charges 0-100% in less than 40 mins. Some even in 27mins.
If you are like me and never charge the phone overnight (which is bad by the way due to the additional EMF emitted by the device, possible flaming of the phone, adapter, lack of cable plugs around your head etc.), this make a huge difference. Typically I charge my phone in the morning when I wake up, while taking a shower. :) Then I have to charge it a bit more in my car because i drive with navigation all the time and then at least once or twice more during the day for 15-20 mins.
I really don't care about the battery life since battery replacement is less than 100$ with apple certified center and I actually prefer to change the battery once a year because of the above mentione things I just need as much as possible juice...
So, I got lied that Samsung had 45W and I went to buy the S23U, which apparently charges with 45W only the first 18-20% and then again falls to 25W or less. I again have to charge my phone for 1 hour and 10 minutes. It's better than most Pro Max's devices(especially the 16 PM which needs 2 hours), but it still sucks.
Now i'm thinking of going to One+ or Xiaomi, we'll see tmrw or after two days when their respective presentations are, if they deserve any attention.
I think Apple is just making fun of their users.- Let's see how much we can milk them by delivering the ancient hardware for as long as possible to keep it cheaper.
As Steve Jobs once said - Apple views itself as a software company, not hardware one. But since the hardware was lacking, they've had to push it out. Now, they're neither. They don't sell software and their hardware is lacking. I bet he would turn in his grave if he sees what mediocre stuff they push out compared to their competition. Until the iPhone 6 they basically didn't had proper competition. Afterwards...
@@pondbrad47sounds like you prefer Samsung
When it says 18w on the old MagSafe you aren't charging at 18 your charging at 15 there is some loss between the power source and phone so it draws slightly higher
Hmm, could be the case
@@MattTalkTech Same for the 25w drawing 28w. Also why you need a 20w adapter for the 15w one and 30w for the 25.
@@emilsecker7881 thanks clippy
@@emilsecker7881 I literally said that
@@emilsecker7881we don’t do that anymore. Okay?
The thing is older iPhones get up to 9V profile maximum but iPhone 16 series get up to 15V profile.
And the input for the old Magsafe is about 18W not meaning that Magsafe output is 18W, maybe around 15W as claimed, because wireless efficiency.
Only comment I saw that actually explained why the charging is different! Super cool that the new iPhones now work with the 15v 3a PDO (power data object) for both MagSafe and wired charging.
Today I went to the Apple Store to ask if the iPhone 16 charges up to 45W. They told me no, that it can reach a peak of 38W but quickly lowers the charging power. I was quite disappointed.
Matt is the first tech RUclipsr to uncover the truth about 45W wired and 25W MagSafe charging
Do you have other daily life that is worth living than constantly having your phone slapped on your face youtubing?
@@BASH_ANGELso basically like what you're doing?
@@BASH_ANGELbro thinks he’s any better
@@BASH_ANGELnobody cares about your input
Apple never claimed 45w charging
Wireless charging is less efficient than wired charging, so you need more power for the same charging speed. The power bank is supplying approximately 30 W to have the 25 W that reach the iPhones battery. That's the reason you have to use 30 W charger to get the full (25W) MagSafe charging speed.
Yeah, that is true, it could be that
Mine pulled 42 watts while playing Call of Duty
i dont know if thats supposed to sound good or bad 🙃
But is it charging 42W to the battery? It could be charging 21 W and 21 W for gaming.
Ahh good question... But do remember having a heavy app like that some of the power will be going to power that game and some will be to actually charge the battery
@@MattTalkTech edit: I'm dumb
@@forbandyson8921 samsung, sony xperia, ROG, red magic and a handful of other phones have charging bypass mode to power the phone directly from a PD source, it generates way less heat
So the new phones are just theoretically capable of charging at 15 V and 3 A (45W). So they pull up to 39/40 Watts when being heavily used while charging (in this Video i think there was a peak at around 38-39 Watts). So its just to compensate the the Watt Consumtion by the Phone. I just think they should have allowed the 16 Pro / Max to charge constantly at around 40 Watt instead of 30 Watt. Combined with the new thermal System i think it should be possible.
What do you guys think ? 🤔
It would be good to see the test done with a 45 to 60 watt power brick and not a power bank. There might be differences
Bro it’s be the same
It’d*
Not really, you can clearly see the power banks are able to push well over 60. Apparently the 16s CAN pull 45w, but only under load.
there's no difference
Waiting on a future firmware update, also battery temperature has to be raised before it can accept higher charge. Similar to how a Tesla conditions the battery for faster charging while enroute to the supercharger.
yeah but the tesla has an hvac system. the phone would need to run some processor intensive task in the background to generate heat. also the phone would need a way to cool the battery bec charging generates heat. too much heat is bad for batteries... not gonna happen my friend. the only way charging gets faster while maintaining battery health is by increasing energy density which will allow us to get a higher capacity battery in the same space we have available.
Wow! That 16 Pro bezels look impressive!
the charging is finally improved !!
when charging wirelessly the power draw you’re measuring from the power adapter where you plugged the wireless charger in is NOT the power that the phone is getting. when you measured 20w for the 15 Pro Max the phone wasn’t getting 20w but most likely around 15w. wireless charging has a lot of power losses. the same goes for the 16s that should charge at up to 25w via MagSafe but the iPhone + MagSafe charger combo will draw about 30w total, but the phone is not getting
Ive only managed to hit 40 watts around 30% on my iphone 16 pro max and it settled to 38 watts on the default cable and on 2 other cables i had
Which charging brick should be used
@@Aditya00069Same..Confused which charger and cable to buy?
15:48 it’s not crazy that you’re getting more than 15 W into an older phone like the iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max. This is always been the case which is why Apple says that you need to use their official 20 W adapter to get 15 W from your MagSafe. A 15 W charger will never deliver the full 15 W to the iPhone because there’s always some power lost to heat with wireless charging.
Are you surprised by the CHARGING Results?
Kinda
Yes
@@mamache2028 what are you even surprised of when there are tons of higher wattage charger out there
I wasn't surprised by anything in the video except charging MacSafe. I was impressed when I saw the iPhone 16 Pro Max charging with 29 watts
I'm very surprised and impressed
I don’t get to focus on Fast charging it only shortens battery life. I still use my 5 W charger from the old iPhones. Charging it at night holds all day. I have no idea why I would need that. Maybe once a year when I really forget to put it on and needed it in a hurry, but usually I’d rather have my battery be good for a longer time then the iPhone being charged 10 minutes after I’m asleep opposed to two hours after I’m asleep
because we watch tiktok all day and need to charge 3 times during the day
I also charge mostly at night and don’t feel a need to charge quickly most of the time. My XS Max does need to be charged from time to time during the day, but I can wait for a little while.
Fast charging shortening battery health and life is a gigantic myth. In fact, slow charging is waayy worse for battery health and longevity since it stays in load and heat up cycle much longer compared to modern fast charging. Every modern phone should include at least 120 watt fast wired charging to avoid embarrassment.
8% with 16 PM
got 37W sustained until like 20% then it tapered to 20-25W
It’s pretty good
i dont understand why he didnt start these tests at 5%... batteries charge lower down low. basically he ruined this entire test with his lack of knowledge
I tested this myself using the Stock Apple usb C charger on my iphone 16 pro and using 240W usb C and they both give same results. I never seen going over 40W
Good to know it is not just my iPhones Glitching. Thanks for checking that out
I usually charge mine at night around 20% and I've seen it charging around 29w at the low end and 33w consistently on the high end. There were a few moments it's held around 36w for around 10-15 seconds before going back down while also spiking at 39w which feels like little random bursts of power?
The phone can absolutely take the higher watts while staying pretty cool at the same time. Hoping there's a software update in the future where we see consistent 40w at least at lower states of charge.
The thermal performance on this year's models is considerably better compared to last years model.
My understanding was the higher wattage charge rate was only whilst the phone was doing something power hungry. Can you test again whilst a a game is playing rather than just the lock screen.
When the news came from Apple China and screenshots were shown of the battery voltage of the 16 Pro phones, it was said that based on voltage and amperage, you could extrapolate 45w. However, it was confirmed that that peak is not achieved (not uncommon) and that with a more powerful charger and good cable, 39W was being observed.
Older iPhones top out at 27W, but you can really only consistently get around 24 or so if you’re in that middle range through to 60%.
I think the reason it’s showing that it’s pulling more than the 15w of the original MagSafe is that wireless charging isn’t 100% efficient, so the extra watt or two is probably to account for the inefficiency.
Apple measured the charging speeds in terms of minutes on a 20w charger, and never mentioned 45w. I've always wondered how much difference fast charging really makes to phones. It would be interesting to see how fast it gets from 0 to 50% and how it compares to Apple's claims with a 45w charger.
Just tried it and my phone is charging a bit faster. Went from 41% to 51% in about 6 mins or so
It depends on the charge level of the phone to benefit the battery. We don’t know how accurate the little display reading is too.
I would try to charge them for a while. Batteries charge best when they are heated to the "right" temperature. So they might charge faster after a while before they start to thermal throttle.
I think that’s really sad and misleading bad advertising when they say the new 16s can charge at 45 W but yeah they don’t even get close to that and then the fifteens are supposed to charge at like 27 or but they’re not getting closer to that either. Why does Apple say they charge a high wide inputs but don’t even come close to reaching those numbers?
Id like to see you test the charging speed with the phone turned off. I would also like to see the test done using the wall charger to see if that makes a difference, it shouldn't as you have a 64watt powerbank.
Switching from Samsung, this was my first question... I heard Apple was behind on charging speeds. Glad to see this!
They are my s24 ultra charges in less the 1hr and 10 min
@johnpineda8478 I have been a samsung user for 14 years, I know what current gen samsungs charges at...
@@AlvinKokubun i was just commenting so calm down bro
@johnpineda8478 lol because samsung users like you make this battle between apple and Samsung sound like we win a prize every year for it...
@johnpineda8478 excuse my harshness, but it's tiring. I'm just trying something new because it doesn't seem like either company is innovating like I last remember.
I used to marvel at Samsung's ability to come out with new hardware concepts... after years of plateaus, I'm just trying to get another perspective...
Fast charging is so important for me. My oneplus has good fast charging and the next phone I get should be pretty fast aswell.
Do you enjoy the green lines tho
Specifications are just specifications; they don't always reflect real-world scenarios. While a device may be theoretically capable of 45 watts or whatever is claimed, actual performance depends on various factors such as battery temperature, state of charge (SOC), chipset of the power source, and battery condition, among others.
I thought others reported that the power draw is up to 45W, of which 30W could be used for charging, leaving 15W of headroom so if you use it while charging it won't affect the charging speed.
Also when using wireless charging, you cant rely on the powerbank reading, you will lose about 5 watts into heat, thats why apple says you have to use a 30 watt charger, when the powerbank says 30 ish wattts, the phone is only getting about 25
For the MagSafe that is good then. It is getting the claimed 25W as Apple Promoted it can
@@MattTalkTech yeah it is very good to see pretty shocking they managed to get wireless charging that fast
Thank you Matt.
Thank you too
Wireless there's a power loss, that's why the higher numbers. The real power that goes to the battery is a lot lower. At least 20-25% is lost compared to wired, but the battery bank can't know that.
Hi Matt, Great video. I’m surprised by the battery results. Planning to get an iPhone 16.
Informative!! ❤❤❤
Same sharge 170 power bank & a 240w cable. Average is 23w below 40%. Then 45% wattage drops to 16-18w. Iphone 16 pro.
I really wanted faster wired charging but it was too good to be true
this is great, I was looking for a power bank, now I know to use the braided cable as well for higher wattage
Very nice video about the charging speed test of each IPhones it’s nice to know all the difference capacity of each phones 🤩😍
What a splendid interview really remarkable🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This 20-25 watt charging speed reminded me of my old one plus 7t that i used 6 years back. Its really funny that 16 pro max is charging like at 30-35 watt in 2024.
apple could have your phone charge at 200W but it would nuke the battery. then everyone would complain that their battery health is trash after a year of use. charging quickly generates heat and increases the chance of lithium plating which degrades the battery. the reason a lot of androids charge quickly isnt because their tech is superior, they just dont mind nuking the battery.
I had 25 watt charging in 2015 with Motorola Moto X Style…
@@James-cq9dpthere are ways such as splitting the battery cells to reach 120w… the cope is high with this one. By the time Apple gives 65w charging there will be flying cars and Martians with terraformed societies
Charging using a mains Apple charger rather than battery banks is really the only legitimate to test whether the higher powers are available. There is so much stuff going on with USB-C handshaking that you will probably never get above 30W with any third party charging source.
Thank you,you’re awesome Matt ❤
Great video and revelation. Thanks Matt.
very interesting video. Thank you Matt for the information and testing you provide!
The fact that it charges faster than my 2021 iPad Pro is wild.
The 45W charging is the port capability, not the battery charging wattage. (Just a reminder that charging is measured in watts, not mA, and so mAh is a misleading capacity metric that does not take into account the different nominal voltages modern smartphones have had).
It just allows the battery to peak at 30W and still allow for 15W for other parts like screen, chip, speakers, etc.. In other words, you can charge the battery at max speed and still get peak performance at the same time (tests by geekerwan shows that the chip draws a max of about 12W still leaving plenty of headroom)
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You might want to lengthen the test over a longer time to establish the charging curve from 10-90% to get more data points. I suspect the higher wattage is only attained for a short interval. We know the charging curve is essential to prolong the battery lifecycle.
FINALLY someone does this test
I wish you would have had the phones at 1% or 0% & charged them for 30 minutes or 1 hour each at these speeds Timelapsed as well, you could have tested temperature or battery charge speed (not just wattage), you could have done a bit better video or even another video SPECIFICALLY for battery charge of these devices; or battery drain, a days works would bring you in thousands of dollars..
45W is crazy fast as fast as i subscribed ⚡️
I think apple could give us 45w with just an update to enable it
Did you confirm you don’t have the smart charging setting on?
That charging profile looks like it’s adjusting the charge up when the battery is not low enough to risk damaging the battery.
The bruchure says "up to 30watt charger" for non mag recharge, where mag charge is above 30watt.
Thank You for your posts! I got a iPhone 16 Pro
The adapters aren’t available yet, but I’ll defintely use those. Thx for the video !!
Excellent job and good to know
The 45w is the theoretical peak performance. Just like with EVs, the claimed peak performance is often not reached or only for a short time during the charge. At which battery percentage it will occur remains to be seen. But in order to conclude that it will NOT reach 45W or close to that, you would have at least need to go through the WHOLE charge from 20 to 80%.
I really love your videos, Matt, best wishes❤
It seems that Apple is slowing the charging when the battery is near empty and when its almost full. A graph between %charge and watts drawn from the source would be nice to see. I am sure iPhone 16 pro will charge at 45w between 50% to 80% charge
I was waiting for this
45W is so impressive ❤
Could it be that the 45 watt is the peak for when there is a MagSafe accessory attached to the iPhone? Like how the original MagSafe battery pack could charge off the back of the iPhone? There were rumours of a USB-C comeback for the battery pack.
Thank you Matt!
It appears that Apple has imposed a restriction on the charging capabilities of the device. This issue could potentially be resolved through a software update in the near future, enabling the device to support 45W charging.
I was at the Dubai Mall Apple Store tech section - 2nd floor.
Specifically I askee if I could buy the 30 W charger for my new iphone 16 plus and the guy just declined - he explained the same thing we saw in the above video. ❤
Nice Video!
What power banks are you using? I don’t think you mentioned that in the video or the description. I see that the see through pyramid shaped one is Sharge. Is the other one a UGreen one? I know for sure it’s not Anker.
It's a cuktech 20
You should've used the phone for something intensive like opening camera and recording while plugged in to actually see the max allowed watts for charging!
I am watching some more videos related to this 45w charger. I have only 20w as of now, wanted to see the charging time difference.
Great informative video
I am new to watching videos on how you stay updated with the apple products their is much to learn I thank you for the time you give checking out the products than sharing it with all who watch your videos it helps me very much thank you Matt
Hey Matt. , did you test the strength of the MagSafe compared to the 15? I saw a video that the magnet is very weak. What is your experience with this?
Just bought latest and greatest. Have followed you from all the leaks till date.
Appreciate the videos very informative
make sure your cable support 45w
why do you sit there yapping for 20 minutes instead of just telling me the rates ?
Bro opened youtube, clicked on a youtube video and then decided to complain about the format being a video xddd
He does yap a lot. Always been like that.
I’m on the floor
😂
Hats off lol
Very good review
Can you give purchase links for those powerbanks?
Very insightful! Thanks for the info
Not sure if its explained in the video but where battery safety things disabled in settings? I know they have like an optimized charging option and stuff that may prevent it from charging at its full capacity to prevent degrading the battery
it gets better and better!!!!!🤩
Did you use the OEM Apple cable? In the past they did not include cables which supported fast charging. You had to buy them from a third party.
Good science. Did not know the old MagSafe can do close to 20w. Very similar to wired charging then.
And really with the new ones. Going to 30w. Faster than their wired. MagSafe for the car then. Definitely faster than the built in wireless charger in the car.
What power banks are these that you use? Thanks
Last night i used my 100w ugreen charger with 100w baseus cable with display. I plugged the usb cable to the 30w port and the output was 23w only with ip16promax
There are a lot of good comments here. Maximum speed is likely to be with power off. And with wired charging via apple adapters. Also with the setting of optimised charging off. But still very interesting video. Have you compared the same test earlier with other phones? Either iPhones or other systems, compared to the claimed charging speed and the experienced one?
Can you provide the models of battery packs you used here?
Sure one is called the CUKTECH 20 and the other is the Sharge ShargeGeek 170
Really surprised by seeing the results.😮
Honestly, I’m happy with charging at any speed - I don’t usually need super fast charging
😅. I OnePlus does 100watts . Ones u used to it u can't live without it
I reckon you’d get 45ish watts when the battery gets to around 50% cause of optimised battery charging
thanks for the info
The animation bar on the powerbank seem cool
Great video giving us some answers on the charging speed. Glad they increased it event if it’s a bit