Elections 360 | Political parties collide on immigration and border management
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2024
- On the debut show of Elections 360 we debate the issue of immigrants and border management. The panel is made up of the ANC, DA, EFF, PA and ActionSA - as well as a live studio audience.
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Mckenzie is correct. We have the worst unemployment rate in the world but we have millions of illegal people working in SA. This is madness. Abahambe.
Salute pa
Agree 💯
PA❤
You need help
Are you sure that the unemployment rate has caused by foreigners a your analysis correct? It seems like the technicals analysis of Mckenzie is going wrong direction with the market analys his mindset well
I am a DA supporter, but listening to this debate they are far too soft on the immigration issue. ActionSA and the PA have seriously made me reconsider my vote.
I'm with you there
Yet both combined (PA & ActionSA) won’t make a government because people are not sold on this hatred agenda amongst Africans.
If they were that convincing, PA, ActionSA and all other illegal immigrants haters were gonna be government come May but nah. It’ll never happen.
Me too
@@rethabilemeletse8873 they are benefiting from cheap labour at the expense of SA citizens
@M1ke22 ❤ please share into detail why you say that. I love the fact that we as South Africans are at a point whereby we are very comfortable and well informed about our intra-political issues. ❤❤
Abahambé,PA,my Pres,say it like it is
They must go
I soo wish the eff can stop this African economy idea that should start in south Africa. On other countries I don't hear much people talk about this African economy. Countries put their citezens first. Why can't we put south Africans first in south Africa like what's there to debate if you are not legal then go home or go through processes so that you become legal. This does not needs a superior logic that they seem to think it's only them who have it. It's not the time for imaginary and unrealistic ideas. South Africans needs practical solutions
AFRICA CANNOT UNITE AT THE EXPENSE OF ORDINARY POOR SOUTH AFRICANS NEVER!!!!
Bayanya, they must go unite in Nigeria and leave us alone.
Gina go home to America,we r in Africa we r african
@@collinphahlane7527, show respect we r not in Facebook
@@peterkgobe3407 I don’t owe anything Chief.
Unity doesn't mean one takes someone else's job. It's about legal free movement of people. One passport, no Visa.
It's confirmed!!, South African's National IQ test will be written on 29 May.
The results already came back. They got 30%😂
They've been a record low for 30 years now.
Including yourselves
Bravo idea IQ test agree with you Very much top 👍👍
As an EFF Supporter. I hoped that my party would not participate in this debate. I really want them to rule but they just lose the country whenever they speak on immigration. We need strong borders, i might not agree with Mr. McKenzie but we unfortunately do need a wall. I always get annoyed when CIC says that foreigners occupy jobs that SAns don't want because. i struggle to believe that uThandokazi and Mandla in the township don't want to work in a restaurant or any other businesses that are occupied by foreigners.
It's very simple, Vote for either Action SA or PA because they stand for real bread and butter issues. Malema is a millionaire through corrupt means while his followers are poor. He gets his millions through illegal cigarettes from neighbouring countries especially Zimbabwe. That is why he is protecting them. WAKE UP!!!!!
You're one of the most level-headed eff supporters. The rest just scream and shift blame.
I think the EEF see the bigger picture, while South Africans citizens are focusing on the now… Tribalism thought out the African continent is our downfall.
Eff remains only party to save south africa...others are hypocrites
my brother eff will cause chaos in this country with their immigration laws
“This eagle next to me must fly to Zimbabwe” Fearless😂😂😂😂
Classic 😂😂😂😂
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But Mckenzie is doing business in Africa he is a hepocrite
@@sivuyile.msivuyile4727 we can trade with each other, support each other and love one another even if we are in our respective countries but i dont expect you desperate parasitic African failed nations to understand this coz you think SA is about your survival
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Eff want to remove borders but that time they have huge walls around they house
Those two aren't comparable.
@@gillbersth6853 what's the difference 🙄 are they not both borders?!
Exactly. Thing is most of them dont share space with foreigners so they are not affected
@@gillbersth6853 no difference, both are barriers
You agent @@gillbersth6853
Gayton never speak only but he also be in action, you can't think about other kids future manipulating your own kids future!! We want well functional and operational borders!!
Trying to use police to protect others Africans is just a waste of time .many neighbouring countries don't even use boaber entry they use dust roads😅😅when foreigners meet police they are bribed 😅😅vote for action SA is better because their policy is better
If Eskom is failing now, how will it cater for the whole of Africa? What is EFF smoking
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Like seriously, EFF have a problem 😅😂
You are the one smoking, we will never stop planning for the future just because we have a problem now, there is something called short term and long term strategies/vision....
EEF says when they take over government they will fix Eskom so that we never have loadshedding again (short term) and then fix it in such a way that it can feed the whole continent (long term)
Don't have a mind of a chicken 🐓 that sees only what's in front of it because when you hit the wall that is put there to limit you then you will think it's end of the world
I think you are the one who is smoking
Just because you have a problem now that doesn't mean you must not plan for the future, there is something called short term and long term strategies/planning/vision to guide you what actions you should take now because if you only plan for a short term just to solve a problem in front of you then you will always hit walls from time to time
The EEF is saying when they take over government they will make sure they fix Eskom so much so that we never have loadshedding again in South Africa (short term) and on top of that they will expand it to generate electricity for the whole continent (long term)
But because you have a chicken mentality you only see a problem in front of you and you are blind of the great opportunities beyond your small problem.....
Maybe they do what they did to VBS😂😂😂😂
That's patriotism Gayton you are the only one who will rescue this country
For sure we are together
Lets go ppl. PA
He will be quiet when on position 😂😂😂😂😂
@@tapiwamurenjekwa9685exactly
During the last election Mckenzie said he will deport illegal aliens from a municipality which PA wins. How many illegal aliens has he deported from the karoo?
ANC failed us we must just admit😂😂😂 and give other party a chance🤞🤞
Failed how?
@@mashuduthidiela9643you must be joking.
@@User47HD I think they’ve done okay in some areas and done poorly in other areas. I’m asking what areas, specifically, they have failed.
@@mashuduthidiela9643 to get rid of corruption and this nonsense of illegal immigrants.
ANC has failed us no jobs even graduates are not working abantwana abasazuba nomdlandla okufunda ngenxa yemsebenzi engekho
I'm from Namibia and I'm explicitly advising borders should be closed across Africa. Or else a mess will erupt before our eyes,
how so sisters?
@@Edwinmoshabe-yq9ue crime has been increasing in Europe ever since more african immigrants went there, in the US the most violent race are black Americans, look at Haiti being runned by gangs. We africans still need to fix our mentality before opening boarders or else africa will be a mess drugs will run rampage
Thank you
Colonial clerk.
Namibia has/will never endorse such madness of closing borders!
@@user-dh3ly3vx8f there are no borders in Europe, even when they occupied Namibia they did not produce anything(European) The khoi in Botswana, SA, Namibia even in Angola are one thing...y separate them by installing borders? U make life difficult for Africans but easily for ur Masters. U must have a giraffe view not a chicken view. Imagine separating Tswana ppl of SA and Botswana, Free state and lesotho, swati's of Mpumalanga and swaziland, Tsonga's of Giyani and Moza's. Close borders for European ill hear u...
Gayton is a monster magnet he came prepared 😂😂
Definitely voting for PA
Me too...
DA opens by talking about ANC. Seems like DA doesn't have a view of its own, independent of the ANC.
Always criticizing other parties but yes, it is the ANC';s falult
They all talked the same way blame blame blame, and attacks on other parties non of these guys really spoke comprehensively and more centered on what they as parties would do, all we saw and heard is fingers and this is typically an African political landscape problem, no wonder people run away to places that seem better yet with its own problems, then again all you hear politicians continually perpetuating the game of that party did this, power is sweet but brains are expensive, no wonder they say the stomach is not the brain
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They don't.
@homonaledi640 You took the words right out of my mouth, that's all that DA has to say about almost every topic ANC ANC. They even run ads in tik tok blaming ANC for everything. It is a great way to hide your true image blame others for what are YOU already doing. Politics 101
This is a joke right?? The ANC talking about attracting skilled workers when there's nearly 33% unemployment!
Exactly. Theres millions of skilled workers right here at home who don’t have a job thanks to what the ANC has done to the economy
It's funny cause they don't even notice that our own graduates don't even have jobs. In many cases, it's easier to even go overseas to get a job than here.
People should Wake up NOT Vote for ANC Anymore they are Promissing all 30yrs meanwhile population suffering with starvation & living in bad situation Povert tin shelters shacks
Those 33% could've been the skilled workers. But failed a life
@@ElectrostatiCrow most of them have degrees in Bcomm
DA's opening statement is to speak on the ANC's failure instead of what they will do (given 1 min for an opening statement) 🤦♂
EFF and DA are either unprepared of need better representatives
What did the DA say that is so unprepared? Stop being racist and I'm not even voting DA
Thank you SABC for this debate, we need more of these.
Crucial for first time voters! I really don't know who I'll vote for.
@@dikeledimothiba65 Vote ActionSA 💚. I'm also a 1st time voter. I'll give it to them
And we need them with all the new parties - the big guns all suck up our taxed and change nothing!
@@6lackjesus719 yall must be strategic voters , Action SA compared to PA is not big enough and they're the only 2 patriotic parties rn , the rest are self serving, so don't waste votes, voting for a smaller of the two , only gives bo ANC and EFF and DA an edge
Would love to see this kind of debate but with all the party leaders
EFF manifesto Getting DESTROYED😂😂😂. Cigarettes smuggling is funding their party!
You really have a low IQ😂
Incorrect. The EFF weakness is always on immigration, their Manifesto is better than all Manifestos combined. You don't need to be a EFF Support to know that, you only need a SOBER brain and know how to READ to UNDERSTAND.
Theh always fall fave first in every debate.
Theh always fall fave first in every debate.
EFF wants to make it easy for Mazzoti to smuggle cigarettes
Gayton McKenzie
Gayton Makhenzi seems to be the only one who understands what we're doing through.
What exactly are you going through?
@@lefamason8094 Unemployment, unskilled foreigners are getting employed in construction, garages, restaurants and doing gardening.
Long queues at the clinic and half of them are foreigners. Getting robbed by paras who buy drugs from a Nigerian.
We're poor because of the government in power
He’s a fool who failed in zimbabwe and is now angry and failing to use his brain
gayton is useless
Let’s get our houses in order first. First the country and then the continent. Example Is Niger 🇳🇪
But thats exactly what EFF has been saying. Industrialize our country, create jobs opportunities etc. Then proceed to influence one Africa concept with other African countries.
@@tandomanqina606industrialize how, when we are friends with china that wants to dumb its goods in SA?
Niger is among the top 5 least developed nations in the world
Yes, Niger is standing up to Imperialism. ZA needs to dump the imperialist UN agenda. #LiberateSA
@@tandomanqina606that's not what they are saying at all😂. Pan africanism is a delusional, utopian ideal and will be the death of all african countries looking to thrive
DA is mad, Nigeria under President Shehu Shagari in 1983, deported 2 million Ghanians.
Yes, it’s ridiculous that it would take 20 years
And the Ghanaian government started it in 1969 chasing Nigerians saying thy are stealing their jobs
And then both countries realised how crazy their actions where and that madness doesn't exist anymore between them. Of course, everyone visiting or living in another country should follow the laws of that country. I understand being up in arms against illegal immigration, but in SA there is often a dislike of ANY black foreigners, including the very legall and very skilled ones. A white or chinese foreign shop owner employing 5 South Africans who doesn't speak any of the SA languages (including English) is more welcome in SA than a Zimbabwean businessman with multiple companies employing 200 people and speaking more than 3 local lanuages
@@munhumutema8970 yes is true so why keep on forcing yourselves on us here in SA? Your problem is that you listen Julius Malema too much
@@thabangtladi8057 because we can make money in SA by working hard. Despite all the hatred. You want us yo stop coming, simply put laws that say no black foreigners. As long as your laws allow black foreigners, they will.come, even if you the people hate them. Why not just come out in the open and make your xenophobia legal so the rest of Africa knows how yo relate with you?
Mr McKenzie touched the masses hearts
"Our President goes to a crime scene" 🤣 Gayton
I wish we can have politicians that loves South Africa with all their souls... 😔
Yes, I do understand. But, we should be grateful for the new strong leaders coming through
@@gavinbinder4974 unfortunately some of them like those of the EFF are very strong but hate South Africans. Their strenght is our curse as opposed to blessing.
I think that EFF people are deluded. We have to be strong ourselves, and show a different path to true freedom
@@loveafrica9253 they are either delusional or playing with the minds of their followers. How do you fix the continent when you can't fix your small country?It like saying you can bring change to the entire country when you have never done anything in your community.
@@Qotha So South African doesn’t have natural resources? Who control those Natural resources?Tell me, have the citizens (mainly the blacks and colored) controlled those resources?
Im really proud of gayton that guy came prepared
Gayton is my last hope
There are many foreigners working at Woolworths check at the tills and Woolworths restaurants
Pakistanies, Ethiopians and somalians most are asylum seekers here but why is only men where is children and women
I AGREE WITH YOU THEY DON'T COME WITH THEIR WIFE
Which war do you see in india or pakistan....you keep making excuses for non black people....while hating black africans...
@@shanaazcloete8531 does people who seeks of asylum run only from war
Pakistanies, Ethiopians and Somalians they bring their wives everyday and marries very weekend..every each household has more than 3 kids...i see problem in South Africa
That is corruption on its own , and ANC is responsible.
South Africa is the only country in Africa that is having this debate . So RSA is the only country in Africa that must accept illegal immigrants 😢😢😢
Not illegal ones.
The struggle of Africans is no longer about the British, French and other colonizers but instead EFF & Africans are ganging up against poor black SAcn, fighting us for our crumbs in our own country, forcing their stay in SA in the name of false one Africa.
Lies
The only one, so the problem is you got the Caucasians in there.
There is your problem.
I believe all the Caucasians got jobs, they hate blacks, don’t care about the real owners .
They the Caucasians are cold Blooded Thieves who is probably part of the Caucasians NEW EUROPE PLOT to Recolonize& keep Africa POOR, and continue to pay PUPPETS!!!
Pay attention Open your👀👀THINK! Open all boarders exchange, Barter, TRADE with one another LOVE and go forward to a United 54 COUNTRIES of AFRICA. BE WISE BE Smart UNIT AFRICA👀👀🤛🏾🤛🏾
Because everyone wants to come here!
EFF need to back down and accept that they are selling unacceptable idea to South Africa. South Africans are fed up. Malema encouraged foreigners to enter South Africa illegal.
Only one person that stands for the citizens of SA, salute Gayton Mckenzie.. If south africans can just give you a chance, a big change wil come 💚💚
Eff for president
EFF is not getting any Vote by the look of things 😂😂😂
Chicken/eagle joke😂
You really must be delusional and misinformed😂
Shame. We will see
@@levikalombo1630 as usually , we always see them with their tales between their legs after elections , Mr 8%😂😂😂
McKenzie is wiping the floor with them 😅 on immigration. His way more of an expert in this issue
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He said he doesn't care about understanding the reasons for immigration, some kinda expert huh. It's like a Dr who prescribes a medication without diagnosis. But oh well if that floats your boat have at it.
It's illegal immigration that he has a problem with
I dont care either. Get these illegal ppl outa here. Simple. Deport the whole lot
This guy does not know policy, judiciary , international law all he know he to kick out foreigners after that them what? What is his economic plan how will he create jobs he is just shouting kick out foreigners with out a plan. Mass deportation is not cheap where is the money coming from? Don't vote for a party just for 1 thing! It take much more to run a coutry
WE pay R180 here in Namibia for a passport
Well said Mr Gayton Mc Kenzie
We were never ready period. South Africans never had an opportunity to enjoy their new-found independence and properly define themselves as a nation.
Because the moment we attained democracy not long after zim chased their farmers and the economy of zim crashed now they all are here in our country 20 million of them and they have infoltrated our space and taken all our general jobs so now its time we send them home so that our people can work and feed their children and economy can recover. Zim illegals pay no tax, they take their money made back home and give nothing back to South Africa, they sell illegal fake things making our people sick and selling drugs here to ourchildren which is why now more than ever we must send them back home.
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We never even had a chance to re-establish ourselves, heal from apartheid & settle all of the sudden we had to compete with all 53 African countries that gained independency decades before SA and even enjoyed it without the invasion of others particularly black South Africans.
Those 53 countries aren't really independent
100 % agree with you as we can see its Only Violences unsafe to survive for to beably to enjoy they Freedom people hád spoken on Media platform with heartbreaking that is Now Worse then apartheid this saying something to World wide Lets hope for better future maybe New Leaders with better Quality Diplomatic Views
Abahambe viva Gayton PA and Action SA
Politicians will tell u exactly wat u want to hear
The eagle does not have practical answers😭😭
The eagle is only flying above to see better how to prey.
ANC is telling us about Rules/Laws that are not implemented. They should be going to the streets and making sure those laws and rules are being implemented…
"Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind."
George Orwell
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♥️♥️♥️♥️ Please share the year and/or the full text that this quote was published from. I am really in love and interested in how us as SAns perceive Political language vs how a South African layman understands the context of the issues discussed within a political debate.
I like this quote, because I have discovered that as well 😂😂😂
@@siphiwebooi7617 Politics and the English Language
Essay by George Orwell
1946
Politics created by Devil ,this is why Politics can't stand it self without using lies
Isn’t it funny how the DA never tells us what their plans or position is on any matter either than criticising the ANC. We know every other political parties stand and view apart from the DA.
It's obvious that DA supports illegal immigration because their funders want to continue exploiting illegal foreigners.
They don't want to lose their privilege of maximizing their profits by exploiting the illegal immigrants
As a white female, I couldn’t agree more. Gayton has more of a plan than the DA does. It will be my first year voting as a youth member and Gayton has really been speaking for all of us in my opinion. The first party that actually cares about catering for everyone and not just himself. My opinion this man could really change communities. It saddens me that so many of these parties are going to get more voters than the PA and those other parties have been abusing and using their people for their own agenda and benefits.
Correct me if im wrong but we need a leader who can call someone out without caring about what consequences lay in store for him. And Gayton reminds me of trump.
The guys who wear those sorry excuse of a pathetic shirt of eff are doomed for life 😵💫😹
Even the bloody R 400 for south african passport is bloody expensive! When I did my first one, it was R 120
Jimmy Manyi has NO idea of what is done with minerals, neither does Julius.
White pipo are ones taking your minerals not black pipo🤣🤣🤣
White pipo are ones taking your minerals not black pipo🤣🤣🤣
We struggle by Zama Zamas right now from Lesotho but somebody say We must open gates for doing nobakanjani in our own resources
Imagine they wanna push there own agenda
They promise them money for this agenda now they wanna get rich with the expense of South Africans 😢😢and people believe them
It's so funny cause the eagles couldn't even see the bigger picture when they bankrupt the BVS bank but yet they see bigger pictures with a entire country 😮
VBS CORRECTION
Gayton is practical, mangi is a dreamer, DA is the score keeper, Action SA is the middle man, ANC are the looters while sweet talking you... Gayton is making the most sense....
Do you have any idea how actually, practical deportation works? I don't think Gayton has a framework on how to go about collection foreigners. Is he gonna use a bus? A Truck? And after collecting every foreigner is he gonna take all of them "home" one by one?
@@buddahexcessit don't matter we have to secure our boarders first then slowly deport.
@@buddahexcess It is illegal to be in a country while undocumented,therefor South Africans can make a Citizens arrest and Illegal foreigners are Mass Deported.Not to forget the deployent of SANDF and SAPS.
@@buddahexcessyes exactly, that's how deportation works. No papers, go home, get papers and come back legally
Well said 👏👏👌😇
A countries first priority should be security for all its citizens
Yes MR Mckenzie they must go makwara kwara
Manyi is not addressing the problems presented by illegal immigration. He's only regurgitating EFF Election Manifesto. He's very cautious to not deviate from Malema's personal views on such a thorny issue.
You really have a low IQ😂
The problem of the illegal immigration is the responsibility of the government, and again there is a difference between borderless and illegal immigrants.
@@gillbersth6853 In borderless society, nobody is illegal. 😂😂😂
@farzana6676 Maybe in US. Here there's no border between SA and Zimbabwe but we have illegal Zimbabweans same between SA and Lesotho etc.
ANC is only getting a plan of sorts together now that we already have 20 to 30 million illegals in SA - so what now?.
I will vote for PA not EFF anymore as SAns
Thats a waste vote that will not add value.
Thank for loving our country and protecting it for the sake of our children's future. This is Patriotic and be unapologetic about it ❤.
I highly salute you my brother for your stands
Salute Gayton McKenzie salute
“Don’t build a house, before roofing it” so you must roof it before you build it? 😮
Lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
So many reasons not to vote ANC,EFF and DA
True brother these people are funded by jews to replace South Africans. No wonder EFF has been having white Jewish members. ANC has been having jewish members like Joe Slovo etc
Who to vote for then? FF+?
They're the only party that is up to European standards, when it comes to governing.
What have DA done wrong don't vote ANC EFF PA Mk
@@mathewrichards7309 spot on.
@@mathewrichards7309DA is imperialism still at work behind the scenes in arrogance. There's an old saying they need to consider.
You can fool all the people sometimes and you can fool some people all the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.
Hope I never hear the eagle/chicken comparison again in my life. Manye is a joke.
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It's a sad joke😮😢
😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂should we cry or shud we 😂 at these clowns...
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To put it bluntly, if you aren't coming here to engage in business, create jobs for South Africans, provide skills that we legitimately need or as a tourist to spend money in South African businesses then you have no business coming here.
I cannot understand how our Government allows all these Foreign Nationals into our country. When we do not enough resources for our own people e.g.water housing, Healthcare, education etc. Do they pay taxes? No do they contribute to the economy no they send their money home. Look at the degradation of our Suburbs it is so sad.
Whatever agreements was signed between ANC n APARTHEID engines is really catching up with us...
results are showing
ANC sold other African countries and now it's coming back to them
Mandela switched off the electric fence
@@ToxxicMafia what is the use of electric fence while loadsheding is high
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BMA mandate is guard that no one comes illegally into SA, Zim passport prices is none of SA business.
Exactly
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But at the end it affects all of us we like or not
But at the end it affects all of us we like or not
@@monareng1791 Them not having money has absolutely nothing to do with us. They must go back to Zim
I don't understand the part where we have to fight for restaurant jobs 😢
So sad and shameful to see Us fighting over crumbs that fall from the table of the White men when we have the power to build a Table of our own!!..
People like you are a problem. The Kasi economy in SA is worth more than R40 billion, its been invaded by foreigners. The same white people you speak of in their early twenties never begged for NSFAS because they would have "holiday jobs" in restaurants and malls to pay for their Varsity education during apartheid. Keep listening to fools like malema gaslighting you while he fights for Zimbabweans to come here and empower themselves at our expense. ✌
That's what tends to happen when you have leader like Gayton who have a view point of a chicken.
entry level job for people who have entry level education who is the majority.
Still that restaurant job is a job, some south Africans need it,why should it be Zimbabwens everywhere in this restaurants
Can the audience keep quiet plz and the panelists speak and explain
30 years of lawlessness. ANC failed. All we asking is a functional country where law is upheld and you have failed dismally.
This show me there is no Party that can save South Africa
Mr Gaytoon Mckenzie's Patriot Alliance makes a lot of sense especially to ordinary South Africans on the street!!!!!
How did anti-Imperialist Manyi find himself all the way in France? Does the anti-Imperialist EFF get its ideas from Europe?
We are well traveled chief. You think we are a regional party like Dudula??
@@MrLechesa Salute Revoguccionary
@@dennisflo9284 Do you even have a passport?? That's a problem with Xenophobes. They think the world is South Africa.
How can you be surprised that Manyi traveled to France?? What nonsense question is that?
@@MrLechesa But you are using a white man mode of transport to travel whilst hating a white man 😂😂😂
Why does the DA always attack other parties instead of marketing what they are doing and what they are going to do? Worried DA supporter.
They're predominantly white so for them black parties have no solution
This speaker of theirs had about as much fire as a wet fart.
The more reason for you to move away from them
Because they dont have a solid plan to rescue SA from poverty, unemployment, racism, majoritarianism, etc.
@nedor64 a party can't cure you from racism. That's a personal choice. But the services we pay for. The employment we seek. Growth of the economy. That is wat all parties should elaborate on.
When they say, foreigners are employed, who employed those foreigners
Volume
They would work for less than the minimum wage
I pay R1500 for customs every time yet immigrants don’t even pay a cent… please tell me how that works
You must pay to get the immigrants here.
@@PietM749 most probably, funding a f@cked system, thats why i support local businesses now.
Might not vote for him but i respect and give props to the Minister.
He's smart ne
Where ever South Africans travel throughout Africa we must have a passport, African countries treat South Africans very badly at the borders, if you don't have the the proper papers they send you BACK.!!!!!!
Propaganda shame on you where did you go and the send you back
@@awuduissaka1212 SAns are turned back with their papers where are you living? Besides, don't push things we don't want down our throats.
Such an ignorant claim.You can not be returned at the port of entry anywhere in the world unless you do not have proper documentation. If you have been denied entrance in any African country, then it wasn't about you being a South African, it was about what you presented to them. This comes from someone who has travelled to multiple African countries
Yes is either they arrest you or send you back
EFF retards wouldn't know that
I used to support the DA. But this year I'll be voting PA. They are clear on their stance of border security
We in Zimbabwe want the border totally closed nothing should be taken from Zimbabwe to South Africa period. Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda Rwanda, Democratic Republic of Congo, Malawi and Zambia must go through Botswana. We as Zimbabwe our gateway to the sea is Mozambique
Agreed
😂😂😂😅😅Weeeeeh that's a fairytale go and look Aoga mandate
Agreed
You have to Know When Enough is Enough MR Zimbabwe. You cannot Survive Without ZA. Your Country as a Whole is in ZA!! SO Stop Lying.
@@masjm7278 tell that to a Zimbabwean 🤣🤣
But how can you give a debate of such magnitude 1 hour???? Insane
Mckenzie bruu🤟🤟💥🤝🤝
Salute pa
All i hear from him is he will deport, then what after that?
@@lehlagamphahlele3928 what you wanna here🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@lehlagamphahlele3928then the thousands of South Africans will have jobs and SA crime rate will decrease.
What else do you want to hear ?
😂😂What do you wanna hear our main problem is illegal foreigners @@lehlagamphahlele3928
"This arrogance will finish on the 29th of Maykenzie"- Gayton. 😂😂😂
u mad eff foreigner party welkom to suid afrika nja yami
What are arrogance, you want to do as you like in south Africa, and talk nonsense, forsek
No debate. We require respect and adhere to our immigration policies.
Love u Mckenzie with your straight talk
PA VIVA
PA tells it as it is... Salute from a South African Patriot. Mr McKenzie you have my vote²
Europe open borders is a union. Not every country in Europe is part of the Schengen union.
The guy of the EFF do not stick to the subject...he did not answer the lady on crime etc. Mr. Chicken Mentality.
I was looking for this comment.
EFF Guy His Dreaming to prepare Violences telling something that does'nt make any sense Hooligans
He claims to have an eagle vision but he is the one with the chicken vision.
New brand name for EFF be "an eagle and not a chicken" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
We are the only organization that understands AU Agenda 63.
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But they are chickens. 😂
Useless comment use your logic and understand sentiments within the lines!!
@@vaeterua 🤣😂 you are trying too hard
SABC is raising the bar lately, we proud of you, it's not nice to see our government corporations being outclassed by private firms.
We have been borderless for a while now, not even America has a completely closed off country. A lot of South Africans who haven't traveled to other SADC countries think we have a fence all over repelling illegal immigration
Do you not see the issues that's going on in America?And how immigration plays a big role in that. Or how about what's happening in Europe with the Muslims?Are you Walking with your eyes closed
My take on this is, all foreigners must enter this country legal ,black, white ,India and everyone else ,our country should make sure that they strengthen their borders to reduce crime and unemployment period.
The problem is our border officers are corrupt,l have witnessed that.
No way! South Africans do not have houses and jobs...we are already suffocating!!!
AGREE with you Very much your suggestion make sense ideale to have Controle entering Country
@@nickyngwana AGREE with you Very much Borders Offices they up to Grab money that is at
In 1996,then Minister of Home Affairs,Dr.Mangosuthu Buthelezi,made a stark warning regarding the plan by the Mandela Administration to adopt an open door policy regarding immigration.He was heckled by Palo Jordaan and Mosioua Lekota,who rebuked him for his stance.Dr.Buthelezi raised his concerns in an articulate manner,reminding the parliament that SA had millions of its own citizens living in poverty who needed job and training opportunities before we could focus on bringing in poor and desperate foreigners.This in an emotive issue but for me its quite simple.Anyone who wants to come to SA who wants a chance at a better life,should be given the opportunity,provided,they follow the channels and obey the rules of our state.South Africans first.Always.
Well said.
Mandela encouraged Black South Africans to multiply with the result that our Country is over-populated. He didn't put a plan in place of how they would support themselves and instead of mothers getting a job to sustain themselves they expected handouts from Government's measely grants. It's an insult!!!
South Africans need jobs...why must more foreigners be allowed into our Country?? Already businesses only employ blacks and Muslims...this is why we need to vote for The Patriotic Alliance. PERIOD!!!
The guys who wear those sorry excuse of a pathetic shirt of eff are doomed for life 😵💫😹
very intellectual and clean comment. You just make a lot of sense.
Gayton you will only rescue this country
Vote PA 🗳 29 May
I stopped voting for the EFF long time ago when Malema said they must find creative ways to enter the country... My vote go to PA...
So you're just wasting a vote. Congratulations, your ancestors must be proud. Wow.
I don't know who to vote for, but I know im not voting for The EFF, Anc and DA.... South Africans are unemployed and you are telling us about your dream to unite Africa 😢😢
FF+ then🎉
You don't understand what a united Africa would do. You don't understand the way the world works. The reason why America and Europe is so powerful is because they are united. Stop the tribalism crap that got Africa conquered
Look for Forum 4 Service Delivery.. Get more about it oh check my interviews. Nhongo Solo
We need Motsoaledi even if A N C may not win.
Gayton is always hauling off topic. Mr Manyi did not argue that people are not being killed in France but his assertion was that he moved freely during his visit in Europe unlike here in Africa. by the way crime is not foreign in France because Violent crimes in France rose to around 384,100 offences in 2023. so Issue of Crime in SA is not only due to illegal immigration but incapable state and failure to deal with criminals decisively.
So uthini vele vele
Why England closed the borders
Gayton is our man.
Fosho, after this discussion EFF and DA lost a lot voters.
True especially the ones who can't do their own research about the party to vote for
@@nkosingiphiledlamini5278😂😂😂😂 you are wise
Yes, including ANC
This is another reason our kids can not be placed at school.
This is another reason bread is too expensive, too much in demand and scarcity principles.
Build infrastructures to accommodate both citizens and foreign with dignity.
Lol where did you learn your economics. You think bread is expensive because of immigrants? Youre a fool
and when will you all go rebuild and develop your own countries?
They should talk about how many are in the country illegally
Who is employing those foreigners? Isn't it South Africans?
it doesnt matter, we just want them out of our country
Sakina my sister, the only thing I can believe right now and only because I can see it with my own eyes is that you look beautiful today, the hair, makeup, outfit, etc are on point. I admire your interviewing skills. You are one of the SABC's gems!!!
Sakina Are You Married?😊
Everytime they Say Sakina 🥰
That's the only thing you on debate😢@@viwembande9497