Years ago, I worked with a man who owned a B30 that made the same conversion (Mack gas engine, to Detroit 6v53). Was contracted to a couple of local construction companies, to do all of their maintenance. Told me that the Detroit was the only engine he could find to replace the old gas engine, & needed to get the truck back to work fast.
I had a GMC Brigadier with a 6V53 and 5+2. It was geared so low that you could shift into high-high about 15 mph. On the road you had to wear ear plugs and ear muffs
Possibly Nissan made some 2 strokes way back but the UD trucks and the Nissan diesel in the IH Scout that I'm familiar with were all 4 stroke. Other than Detroit Diesel and some obscure engines most diesels are 4 stroke.@@Aaron-be2pt
My first job out of school in 1967 was in an Internation Harvester dealership. In Australia, the F 1800 Loadstar was offered with a V345 petrol engine, 5 speed manual with a 2 speed auxiliary gearbox and bogey drive. The F1800D then came along with a V6-53 Detroit with an Allison 6-speed auto, and bogey drive. There were no single rear axles in the Australian Loadstar. Both were excellent trucks for Australian applications in the day.
That's a beauty there, in my mechanical demolition day we had a twin axle b, it was an army surplus boom truck with the big Theromdyne straight 6 gas, I ran that truck for years because nobody else could get the idea of it always being in some gear or pto and using the air clutch when working the winch outside.
One thing that was really good about this kind of conversion was that the Jimmy and Ally were just about foolproof, when literally anybody might need to drive the truck, such as a floater truck on a construction site. I've worked for a number of contractors that had all of their job trucks 2-ton and larger set up this way.
Many years ago I saw a B-71 with a 6-71 engine, actually a couple of them running around and just thought that was the coolest thing ever, I had an extended hood W-900 with KTA600 and thought it was king shit for sure, and it was.
The air filter looks like it should be sitting horizontal on top of the fender with the black intake on top. Almost like the way the air cleaner was mounted on the Mack powered 5-ton military trucks
Sounds good for a little old screamer. Detroit Diesel my old friend, never a issue as long as I do that maintenance. Fired up every time regardless of what the temperature is. Sold, I will take it. Thanks for sharing this with me and my family. Will pass it along and share it. Beautiful rig there.
Way back when I first got my license I worked part time for a company that had one of those with a dump body on it, the original gas engine was long gone and someone had put an early 60's Ford 240 straight six gas engine in it. They basically just used the truck as a trash dumpster off the end of the loading dock. It became my job on Sat. mornings to drive it to the dump and empty it for the coming week. The motor ran fine, it actually felt okay driving it but I think the trans was out of what ever the motor came from, so it had a top speed of about 35 mph, which was probably a good thing since most of its brakes didn't work. Mashing on the brake pedal was more of a suggestion than a command for it to stop but once you got used to it, it was very possible to drive it around with limited stopping ability and the Ford motor. The best part was the plywood floors in the truck, the floors were either rusted away or cut out for access and you had a 20x20" piece of plywood held to a few floor supports with wire ties to put your feet on, the rest of the floor was wide open to the driveshaft and road below. Driving it on dusty roads got interesting to say the least. More than once i got in it and found something sleeping in the cab, all sorts of critters would climb up into the cab in the winter. Including a neighborhood dog, a 190lb Newfoundland mix. He thought it was his truck. The best part was that if the dog was in there, you didn't have to worry about any possums or raccoons. After a while he also kept most other drivers out of it too.
I’d love to have that to restore. My favorite truck ever built. Looks to have a V6-71 Detroit under the hood. The exact motor I’d want to put in a project like that with duel stacks.
The truck looks like a B42 but I've never seen that type of air cleaner or a recessed fender before. At least the one I owned was different. I'm curious as to why you think that it had a dump box that was modified to be a flat bed. The bed looks typical of the day, especially with the wood floor. Being it was owned by an asphalt company it more than likely doesn't have that much road time on it. It was probably used to haul crew equipment to the site and spent more time sitting than working. That would be normal for an early sixties gas equipped truck and its general condition would support that theory. Looks like a great resto project.
About that underpowered 6V53. I don't know if it would fit what with with the turbo and all the associated extra plumbing, but the U.S military have some M113 Armored Personal Carriers with 6V53's that are rated at 450 hp! If you could find one of those engines at a government surplus auction and make it fit that would really liven up that old B Model!
@@TugboatMatt - Yes. But from the specs I've seen online on several US government military vehicle sites there is also a later model of the M113 with an upgraded 6V53 uprated to over 400 hp,
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 I have to say that the engine doesn’t sound like a 6V53, but it does sound good. How does it run with that automatic transmission? You’re RIGHT, it would be quite a cool truck to drive & it would sure make people wonder what was under the hood! I was shocked that it started with only 1 battery, but maybe those engines weren’t too hard to crank over. I would love to see that thing roll out on the road! I’m in the process of rebuilding a 51 REO & it might get an old Detroit engine as well. Not sure yet. Blessings & enjoy that truck! 🥰😎✌️
Saw an old R model with a long hood that had a screaming 8-71 with straight pipes of course. Smoked terribly then one day it only smoked out of one side. Old boy did a half rebuild overnight. Then I didn't see him any more. 😢
Girl I was dating back in 70s , her dad ran Detroit's. One trip to Ontario it started missing . He stopped and got a engine kit , then continued with his delivery. He always carried a roll cab of tools where the passenger seat would sit . While they were unloading and reloading he pulled the head and pan , did the pistons and sleeves, bearing roll and was ready to go by the time they had his load on
would beat a HERCULES JXC petrol 105hp any time. That what I got in my army truck and then have some room indeed to play with. as this one puts out 250hp?
Yes, it’s an engine and a mighty sweet Detroit at that!! Virtually no smoke, great oil pressure, and it just sits there and purrs at idle and runs out real smooth AND it’s attached to an Allison. If that tranny is good, that truck would be a blast to drive!! I learned on a single axle B model tractor. What are you going to do with that gem?
Now that does sound like a GM / Detroit Diesel engine. I noted that without seeing the engine, now that I've seen it, it looks like it's a 6V-53, am I correct?
Just slap some massive turbos and a supercharger on it and send it! Guarantee you it sounds better now then it ever did, that thing straight piped is insane.
I would love to have it and put a manual back in it and run it the way it should be with a manual. The neighbors should be able to handle a truck or they are spoiled. I have them all Jake Brake everywhere here and hammer on the hill heading out with their straight pipes daily and they even do it at 2-4 AM as much as possible believe it or not. I live about 3/4 of a mile away from the State Route 4 lane on my little homestead.
Good old Top Post, best a good vehicle can get. Nothing worse than side post, guaranteed to be jammed in there and hard to to for what ever the reason period. 😊
Why would Your Neighbors, Get mad for driving the Mack, If it,s not to Loud, It it shouldn't be., Put a set Of old chrome stacks, They would look Great on that, I think You should fine a wrecked turbo Cummins with Good 1 ton Chassis and put the Body on that with Fabricated Rear Bed, Now That would Be a Nice truck for shows.
I have a 04 gmc sierra 2500hd duramax and i bitch about my driver door not shutting correctly. Ive replaced hinge bolts several times and the hinge brackets the last time and still don't shut right. It's aggravating. 🤨
Definitions of motor and engine. motor OverviewUsage examplesSimilar and opposite words Dictionary Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more noun a machine, especially one powered by electricity or internal combustion, that supplies motive power for a vehicle or for some other device with moving parts. engine OverviewUsage examplesSimilar and opposite words 1. : a machine for converting any of various forms of energy into mechanical force and motion. also : a mechanism or object that serves as an energy source
@CARBON10 . I understand what you are saying. Just understand it can refer to both. That's what my point is. They both produce power to be converted to motion. It don't mean it has to be motor to electric and engine to fuel combustion. There's no absolute between the 2.
Forget This Ideal of Patina , And Paint the Truck, There nothing like the Look of a Beautiful Painted Mack with stacks, It doe's not look better with rust cleared over who ever started that was a Moron, Period
The 6V53 turned that Gas-B into a truck worthy of it's bad beauty.
6V53 is an awesome engine.:)
Years ago, I worked with a man who owned a B30 that made the same conversion (Mack gas engine, to Detroit 6v53). Was contracted to a couple of local construction companies, to do all of their maintenance. Told me that the Detroit was the only engine he could find to replace the old gas engine, & needed to get the truck back to work fast.
I've always loved the sound of a Detroit. No other diesel quite has that sound. Pure music to an old mechanic's ears.😁
Obviously never drove one! Lol
I had a GMC Brigadier with a 6V53 and 5+2. It was geared so low that you could shift into high-high about 15 mph. On the road you had to wear ear plugs and ear muffs
Look up old Nissan diesels, the UD trucks - more two-stroke stuff, sounds the same, also very cool.
Possibly Nissan made some 2 strokes way back but the UD trucks and the Nissan diesel in the IH Scout that I'm familiar with were all 4 stroke. Other than Detroit Diesel and some obscure engines most diesels are 4 stroke.@@Aaron-be2pt
Just looked it up UD did make 2 strokes in the 1950s. I learn something new every day@@Aaron-be2pt
Got a 6v-53 in a 1965 IH 1800 load star i just picked up with a 5 speed manual and a 2 speed rear diff on air brakes. Its pretty neat.
My first job out of school in 1967 was in an Internation Harvester dealership. In Australia, the F 1800 Loadstar was offered with a V345 petrol engine, 5 speed manual with a 2 speed auxiliary gearbox and bogey drive. The F1800D then came along with a V6-53 Detroit with an Allison 6-speed auto, and bogey drive. There were no single rear axles in the Australian Loadstar. Both were excellent trucks for Australian applications in the day.
@davidbryce6970 lots were sold here in Canada as well. I'm sending a 1600 to scrap tomorrow but I still have 6 others lol
Always liked the look of the B model. Rode like hell though.
Yep I reckon their one of the best looking trucks. Trick my truck did one up looked awesome.
Whoever built that was black belt level free thinker for sure .
That's a beauty there, in my mechanical demolition day we had a twin axle b, it was an army surplus boom truck with the big Theromdyne straight 6 gas, I ran that truck for years because nobody else could get the idea of it always being in some gear or pto and using the air clutch when working the winch outside.
The hell with your neighbors. !!!!!..... drive that beast !!!
One thing that was really good about this kind of conversion was that the Jimmy and Ally were just about foolproof, when literally anybody might need to drive the truck, such as a floater truck on a construction site. I've worked for a number of contractors that had all of their job trucks 2-ton and larger set up this way.
Many years ago I saw a B-71 with a 6-71 engine, actually a couple of them running around and just thought that was the coolest thing ever, I had an extended hood W-900 with KTA600 and thought it was king shit for sure, and it was.
Cool new channel Mr Z. Good luck in your new project. Looking forward to more video!
The air filter looks like it should be sitting horizontal on top of the fender with the black intake on top. Almost like the way the air cleaner was mounted on the Mack powered 5-ton military trucks
Probably more power than the EN 401 flathead gasoline that came out of it
Sounds good for a little old screamer. Detroit Diesel my old friend, never a issue as long as I do that maintenance. Fired up every time regardless of what the temperature is. Sold, I will take it. Thanks for sharing this with me and my family. Will pass it along and share it. Beautiful rig there.
Thats cool , nice. Them little Detroits can suprise ya lol. Probly a plow at one time maybe.
Someone took care of it. Nice find
Definitely plenty there to work with good luck. Sweet old truck
Way back when I first got my license I worked part time for a company that had one of those with a dump body on it, the original gas engine was long gone and someone had put an early 60's Ford 240 straight six gas engine in it. They basically just used the truck as a trash dumpster off the end of the loading dock. It became my job on Sat. mornings to drive it to the dump and empty it for the coming week. The motor ran fine, it actually felt okay driving it but I think the trans was out of what ever the motor came from, so it had a top speed of about 35 mph, which was probably a good thing since most of its brakes didn't work. Mashing on the brake pedal was more of a suggestion than a command for it to stop but once you got used to it, it was very possible to drive it around with limited stopping ability and the Ford motor. The best part was the plywood floors in the truck, the floors were either rusted away or cut out for access and you had a 20x20" piece of plywood held to a few floor supports with wire ties to put your feet on, the rest of the floor was wide open to the driveshaft and road below.
Driving it on dusty roads got interesting to say the least. More than once i got in it and found something sleeping in the cab, all sorts of critters would climb up into the cab in the winter. Including a neighborhood dog, a 190lb Newfoundland mix. He thought it was his truck. The best part was that if the dog was in there, you didn't have to worry about any possums or raccoons. After a while he also kept most other drivers out of it too.
First L9000 I ever drove had a 6v53.
Great sound
I agree
Best truck channel on you tube keepem rolling 😊
I’d love to have that to restore. My favorite truck ever built. Looks to have a V6-71 Detroit under the hood. The exact motor I’d want to put in a project like that with duel stacks.
Cool truck!
The truck looks like a B42 but I've never seen that type of air cleaner or a recessed fender before. At least the one I owned was different. I'm curious as to why you think that it had a dump box that was modified to be a flat bed. The bed looks typical of the day, especially with the wood floor. Being it was owned by an asphalt company it more than likely doesn't have that much road time on it. It was probably used to haul crew equipment to the site and spent more time sitting than working. That would be normal for an early sixties gas equipped truck and its general condition would support that theory. Looks like a great resto project.
About that underpowered 6V53. I don't know if it would fit what with with the turbo and all the associated extra plumbing, but the U.S military have some M113 Armored Personal Carriers with 6V53's that are rated at 450 hp! If you could find one of those engines at a government surplus auction and make it fit that would really liven up that old B Model!
You sure those aren't 92 series?
Actually they are 275hp for the 6v53T in the M113A3 that is the most powerful one.
@@TugboatMatt - Yes. But from the specs I've seen online on several US government military vehicle sites there is also a later model of the M113 with an upgraded 6V53 uprated to over 400 hp,
@@randalldrake4704 - Not in an MI13.
@@martinsuter3531 that’s the hybrid model that has a gas and electric drive. Not a 6v53
O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸 I have to say that the engine doesn’t sound like a 6V53, but it does sound good. How does it run with that automatic transmission? You’re RIGHT, it would be quite a cool truck to drive & it would sure make people wonder what was under the hood! I was shocked that it started with only 1 battery, but maybe those engines weren’t too hard to crank over. I would love to see that thing roll out on the road! I’m in the process of rebuilding a 51 REO & it might get an old Detroit engine as well. Not sure yet. Blessings & enjoy that truck! 🥰😎✌️
Never could I imagine that a V6 Detroit with a straight pipe would sound like an OL' Merlin in a P51!
Saw an old R model with a long hood that had a screaming 8-71 with straight pipes of course. Smoked terribly then one day it only smoked out of one side. Old boy did a half rebuild overnight. Then I didn't see him any more. 😢
Girl I was dating back in 70s , her dad ran Detroit's. One trip to Ontario it started missing . He stopped and got a engine kit , then continued with his delivery. He always carried a roll cab of tools where the passenger seat would sit . While they were unloading and reloading he pulled the head and pan , did the pistons and sleeves, bearing roll and was ready to go by the time they had his load on
What a classic rig. It's kind of small and robust looking.
Cool truck great vid!🤜🤛
Thanks 👍
Awesome truck !
Where u from ?
My friend had a 6V53 in a Ford 600 . No Allison though . Back in the day , speed didn't matter . You wanted your employee going slow anyway .
I agree. In the late 50's early 60's the speed limit in upstate NY was 40 mph.
Nice Truck !
that engine will kick the gasser all the way down the street
Knew the Ward Bros. who lived in Suffern and the asphalt plant was on Riverside Ave out by Dutchtown.
Go from inline to v6 so you have room and safe on weight great idea. Prob v6 bit more power then inline 6 of that time.
would beat a HERCULES JXC petrol 105hp any time.
That what I got in my army truck and then have some room indeed to play with. as this one puts out 250hp?
Yes, it’s an engine and a mighty sweet Detroit at that!! Virtually no smoke, great oil pressure, and it just sits there and purrs at idle and runs out real smooth AND it’s attached to an Allison. If that tranny is good, that truck would be a blast to drive!! I learned on a single axle B model tractor. What are you going to do with that gem?
Now that does sound like a GM / Detroit Diesel engine. I noted that without seeing the engine, now that I've seen it, it looks like it's a 6V-53, am I correct?
yes
A single axle b61 is my dream truck
I was really expecting a Ford flathead with 3,97"s or something really cool!
Man she sounds good
Get some bigger exhaust pipes and let her sing loud and proud, I just love the sound on a 2 cycle Detroit diesel working hard.
Just slap some massive turbos and a supercharger on it and send it! Guarantee you it sounds better now then it ever did, that thing straight piped is insane.
Think that must be the first automatic B I’ve seen.
The gold bulldog on the side say's it was originally a Maxidyne truck.
I would love to have it and put a manual back in it and run it the way it should be with a manual. The neighbors should be able to handle a truck or they are spoiled. I have them all Jake Brake everywhere here and hammer on the hill heading out with their straight pipes daily and they even do it at 2-4 AM as much as possible believe it or not. I live about 3/4 of a mile away from the State Route 4 lane on my little homestead.
The old horseshoe lying on the bed was apt... That's a buzzin half-dozen eh!
Good old Top Post, best a good vehicle can get. Nothing worse than side post, guaranteed to be jammed in there and hard to to for what ever the reason period. 😊
What a sweetheart
I bet an 8v53 would fit nicely
Neighbours are put there for you to annoy. It would be a great cruiser.
Screamin' Demon!
All 210 hp of it.
Could make a neat little pickup
Definitely a weird conversion, I know that Mack offered 6V71's from factory but never seen this before.
If your neighbors get mad at that then you need better neighbors
Why would Your Neighbors, Get mad for driving the Mack, If it,s not to Loud, It it shouldn't be., Put a set Of old chrome stacks, They would look Great on that, I think You should fine a wrecked turbo Cummins with Good 1 ton Chassis and put the Body on that with Fabricated Rear Bed, Now That would Be a Nice truck for shows.
The heck with the neighborhood
Would’ve checked the rack first before starting to make sure it was free and you didn’t get a runsway
I wonder how a b model would work with a IHC 466 turbo ?
the 2 stroke detroit came out in the 30s i belive
I bet that engine and transmission are out of an old fire truck
No they were purchase brand new
I WANT IT OOOHHH I WANT IT
I can deal with the Detroit but automatics are for steering wheel holders. It should be a crime to do that to an old Mack.
An automatic behind a Detroit, is the only way you get any power.
Detroits have no torque
Did you notice what it was used for ? Tipping Asphalt mix on the run maybe .
@@RJ1999x I've driven Detroits. You just have to drive em like you stole em.
@@LawrenceGrant-b6p that helps, but it doesn't make up for no torque
The way the camera was shaking towards the end of the video when it was on the running board it seemed like the engine had a dead cylinder.
1:25 tribute to Ed Bassmaster?
I have a 04 gmc sierra 2500hd duramax and i bitch about my driver door not shutting correctly. Ive replaced hinge bolts several times and the hinge brackets the last time and still don't shut right.
It's aggravating. 🤨
Is there an emergency stop for that engine? It’s kinda sad that they put such a small Detroit in it but it’s one of a kind 😉
Yes there would have been
You can turbo that bad boy
6v53 boat anchor
Sounds like an old 7 11 Thermodyne.
It's not a motor, it's an engine.
General Motors, ford motor company, American motors company any of them ring a bell
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@@2dogsmowing
Pistons = engine
Wiring =electric motor
@CARBON10 . I understand what you are saying.
Just understand it can refer to both.
That's what my point is.
They both produce power to be converted to motion.
It don't mean it has to be motor to electric and engine to fuel combustion.
There's no absolute between the 2.
If you’re gonna get technical about grammar, you forgot to put a period at the end of your sentence.
Love the sound of the Detroit but the ear pounding music sucks.
LOL ONE TIME I SAW AN AUTOCAR TRUCK, THAT HAD THE SHAME OF HAVING AN MACK ENGINE UNDER THE HOOD!!
So what's the mystery
318 Detroit. No mystery there....
Not a 318.
NICE MOTOR....👌👍🫶
2 Stroke detroit. Probably a 6v53.
Why is it a mystery when you know what it is?
Run a stack back on it.
Dude It all most started, If you would have sprayed some Either it would have started.
Your lucky it didn't runaway.
Not running on 6 cyl
Y would you wreck a MACK like that
Detroit Diesel
I hate side post batteries never did like those batteries
Forget This Ideal of Patina , And Paint the Truck, There nothing like the Look of a Beautiful Painted Mack with stacks, It doe's not look better with rust cleared over who ever started that was a Moron, Period
It should be illegal to put a cat and an automatic in a truck like that or any truck for that matter
Awesome engine, great truck! Old Detroits will go forever if kept filled with 40weight :-)
Wtf
That was disappointing. A Detroit and automatic. Could it be any worse? Cool truck otherwise.
The Detroit isn't so bad, but putting an automatic in it is totally disgraceful.
Sacrilege 😢.
Ford motor
Well they ruined that truck, that pile of 6v53 needs to go the scrap heap
😂😂😂😂😂
Anything is better than a Detroit .🤢
It’s already junk with a Detroit in it 😅