It depends, I track the cars quite a bit. The six-speed is more entertaining to drive. On the road if you want to get the little backfires in the exhaust it's very easy with the rev match. On the track it's fun to go through the gears with the no lift shift, something you can't do on the road without likely ending up in jail. But on the track the automatic transmission is flawless, it always seems to be in the right year and keep the engine very close to redline and at the max power. It is certainly a faster car on the track. The automatic on the road is less entertaining to drive but easy to drive fast and you don't have to pay attention to it. Also I liked that my wife could drive it when she wanted to, she doesn't know how to drive a stick and doesn't want to learn. Those are my pros and cons. Either manual or automatic are well done and awesome in different ways
Should’ve went out with some kind of bang! Z28 would’ve been perfect. I wouldn’t have bought one but would’ve been nice. I have thought about buying an SS in the future and putting a LT5 in it just like you said tho
It’s crazy to think about. As we’re typing this we’re just a day away now, glad you managed to snag one. The 24s are nearly impossible to get from what I’ve heard. This owner only got one by trading his C8 to the dealer in exchange for them moving him up on the allocation list, because the dealer was out of C8s.
@@running2redline These constraints are a mess bro,Let me tell you a better one : Where i live there is a single chevy dealer for the entire nation and they got a single allocation for 2023 ZL1’s Literally the only 2023 model year in the country and they marked it up to 100k USD and i couldn’t pass it up just my luck
That’s far crazier, 100k markup is a lot. But at least you now have a 1 of 1 in the whole country. That’s absolutely sick and the perfect car to have that with!
Always loved the Camaro which always seemed like a bit of an underdog even at its peak. This was a very good review, the exterior shots are a great addition!
Not understanding GM's rationale of getting rid of the ZL1 and all the Camaro to go electric. Wimps, Keep the American Muscle cars alive and stop being political. Let the market control the Camaro faith and not the Green Committee.
The biggest reason production of the Sixth Gen has ended production is more than likely the increasingly strict EPA standards being pushed by the current administration. GM being fined for both Camaro and Corvette, and they’re not discontinuing the Vette. A 7th Gen is coming as GM has gone on record that Camaro’s story isn’t ending. The real question is what will it come back as. Even GM is scaling back a bit on the EV push so I’m not sure they even know yet.
I have a ZL1 and don't plan on ever selling it. I love driving it and I think it would be very hard to replace. I sincerely hope that Chevrolet will bring the Camaro back in the future.
I’m hoping this is another hiatus like between Gen 4 and Gen 5, unfortunately this discontinuation seems to be different. Definitely hold on to that ZL1!
Thanks for the video. And thanks for not harping on the outward visibility. It's something that you get used to after driving in it for a few hundred miles. One thing I love not getting used to though is that supercharger whine.
Absolutely spot on. Having owned a Camaro at one point, I never got why people complained about it so much. It’s definitely something you just get used to quickly then forget about. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
I just watched a video a few days ago that said they are reconsidering making the Z/28 with LT6 with either 6 speed manual with 600hp or 8 speed DC with 650hp for 2025 MY. I truly hope they do, I’m still mad they didn’t send the ZL1 off with the LT5 from C7 ZR1, they didn’t even give it the LT4+ from CT5-V BW and Escalade V, they also could have put the LT2 from C8 in the SS/LT1, but call LT1 the LT2. They don’t care if it’s not a C8 or an EV though.
I honestly think they understood that nothing was beating the corvette so they kinda let the Camaro sit to the side and just get some regular upgrades to keep it fresh and “new” but they for sure should’ve made a zr1 type of variant with 750+. Would’ve been dissgustinggg
ya I saw a video of them talking of making 2025 camaro with the new corvette engine. just like one of the guys that comment, gm would not let the camaro be stronger or faster than the corvette. fingers crossed
@@samholcombe3129 GM could have made an SS 396 with the 6.6 gas truck block if they wanted too. I can't figure out why we didn't get more trim levels and engine options in the generation.
I bought a 2021 ZL1 with only 3773 miles on it from a Chevrolet dealership in Oregon about a month ago.. It is red just like the one in the video. I absolutely love it...!! The last car I want to own..!
I ordered a 2013 2SS RS with all options and have really enjoyed it these past 10+ years. I don't drive it a lot, it only has 30K on it, but every time I think about selling it, I just have to listen to that dual mode exhausted 6.2 L and I come back to my senses.
I really just hope this is another scenario like between Gen 4 and Gen 5 where it’s a break, but this unfortunately feels different. Used to be a big GM guy, but their new cars and decisions have lost me. Thanks for watching!
Great review/Commentary. I picked up a 2019 ZL1 when released that year. Roto fab and larger throttle body to get near 700 hp without a tune and enjoy. It's brutal, but refined. Loud, but subdued when needed, and looks damn imposing on the road with very comfortable seats.
Great review video on the greatest American muscle car!!! I was surprised that you didn’t mention the 2024 ZL1 Collector Edition. Limited to only 350 units, that car is awesome! Very high demand, and most qualified buyers who wanted one, didn’t get one.
Thank you for this excellent and respectful review. The 6th gen Camaro certainly deserved a different fate or at the very least a proper sendoff by GM. I will hold on to my beloved 2018 for as long as possible, and probably never buy a GM vehicle again.
I’m glad you enjoyed it, it’s a shame to see it go, and I can’t blame you for straying away from GM. It’s unfortunate the direction they’ve went, but at least we experienced the final and likely best iteration of the Camaro, definitely hold on to it! Thanks for watching
GM listen to me all you had to do was drop the 755hp LT5 in with the DCT and the hybrid front drive and the car would have gone out like a legend lot in for the roll cage and the interchiller
I wanted to order a 24 ZL1, but no local dealer could get an allocation. (south Texas) Some couldn't even order a Camaro at all. I was working with one dealership who had a Camaro stuck in intermediate transport hell, and couldn't even answer if they would ever receive it. I was persistent through September to January, and finally in early February, they got a message that it would arrive in two weeks. I rushed in to make the deal, and it was a 24 ZL1 convertible! I took delivery in March and have about 500 miles on it now. Amazing car!
WHY WOULD THEY DISCONTINUE THW CAMARO ITS SO POPULAR AND COMMON IM GENUINELY VERY MAD ABT THAT. I’m glad you posted this video so we will never forget the legacy Camaro has created. R.I.P. Chevrolet Camaro
@@running2redline hopefully I want a Camaro so bad and I watched this video cause I’m trying to figure out whether I should get the SS or the zl1. Which would be better in your opinion? I feel the SS is better and more practical but idek
I think the ZL1 will hold value better, but the SS is far cheaper and easier to drive flat out without sliding or spinning, as well as not reaching jail speeds instantaneously. If you don’t care about the extra power and the 455 in the SS is fine, then save yourself the money. I think a test drive would be the best way to find out if you are left craving more after hopping in an SS. Good luck with the search and hope you find one you love!
They weren't really selling that well. The numbers dropped considerably over the last few years. They are a great car - I have a 2022 SS and it's been a pleasure to drive. But selling only 20,000 units a year doesn't work for the bean counters.
The ZL1 is a real masterpiece and the best performing muscle car for me. Glad to own one of these last great cars full of emotion and rough driver feeling, especially with the 6MT.
This final generation was one of the most dialed in machines I’ve ever had the chance to drive. It’s certainly going out on a high note, hang onto yours!
The ZL1 is a definite collectors item and the last of the old school muscle cars. The emphasis is definitely on MUSCLE 💪 with this rocketship. The car is at a great price point for the performance and quality on offer, with the car the complete package not just an LT4 engine stuffed in a chassis. The way the heat exchangers are placed in the ZL1 work better than the Corvette setup due to the better locations. The Camaro is a great car whether it's the manual or automatic V8 version and will be remembered fondly. I personally don't like the 1LE package for a street driven car as it is way to harsh and overkill for the under maintained roads in the USA... On a personal note it's a sad day for me knowing the Camaro in it's current iteration is going to disappear. The car shown in this video is an absolutely fantastic performance coupe. 😎🇦🇺😟👍
These are great cars with a well engineered chassis. Id skip the track focused edition, get the manual and go with the excellent magna ride option. To my eyes, looks great as well.
I compared the engine exhaust sound to some of the 2024 $180K and Up MB AMG S63 and AMG GT 63's. Not much difference. Matter of fact, that Camaro sounds better.
To young to buy a Camaro really been the only muscle car that I’ve dreamed of but with all the electric car bs, the dream of buying one is fading away and hopefully not but looks to be turning into a dream after all😢
I personally think the best bang for buck with a Camaro is the 2010-2015 Gen 5 SS. A good one can be found for 20, and they remind me more of the original Camaro than the 6th gen. It also has the LS3, which is automotive gold. Stay persistent and you’ll make it happen, good luck!
You seem to have forgotten the Panther collectors edition package on the ZL1. That would be the one to have. And just like last time GM has failed to advertise the Camaro brand and has killed an icon in the car community. Just look at what dodge has done with the challenger platform with very little changes. Especially with the chasis. They advertised the crap out of that brand and look at the sales versus the Camaro. I have had 2 4th gens, a 2010 ss, a 2012 ZL1 and now have a 2017 HBM ZL1 that I ordered new. Love the Camaro, but hate GM for not treating it as the icon that it is. But they would rather put all their money in EVs. Waiting to see who will bail them out of bankruptcy this time. Probably China again.
Completely fair, I love the Camaro and daily a vette, but I must admit I am not at all a fan of the direction GM is going. Hoping this is another phase out like between the 4th and 5th Gen but this time feels different unfortunately. Thanks for watching
When they discontinue the Camaro and start making electric ones and if the sales drop, do you guys think that they would start making V8 versions again? i need to know if that's possible man it's so sad :(((
It’s hard to say, if the Corvette didn’t exist I would think that the super low sales would drive them back to a V8. However, with most of the focus shifting to the Corvette and the popularity of the C8, they might feel just fine letting it go. I personally like to think they’ll eventually follow demand and bring it back like the gap between the 4th and 5th generations.
Why couldn't they just put the hybrid V8 that they already made for the corvette in this... GM is fucking stupid for letting their most iconic car die like this
I was thinking of getting a ZL1 but since parts are gonna be much more expensive I can’t justify the price they’re being sold rn. I’m sure they’ll get more expensive down the line as well I wanna get something that when I buy it I can go. Ok yea that’s what it’s worth I can pay that.
The dealer markups have been atrocious, this owner only secured one by a trade. Great cars, but this market is indeed brutal. Thanks for watching, and good luck if you try to grab one.
The 1le is definitely not a more advanced suspension. It’s a dumbed down version from the magnaride. The 1le package is actually a downgrade from the ZL1. They just have people convinced it’s worth more because they add all the gaudy canards, wing, wheels carbon fiber everywhere stuff. It may be slightly better on the track but not for the road. Where as the zl1 is great for both.
Its spring rates are far stiffer, you could argue that’s a downgrade in terms of manufacturing cost as it is a fixed suspension rather than full magnaride. But in terms of performance the suspension is certainly more advanced from the additional rigidity, the lap times back that up, where the 1LE is far quicker.
@@running2redline my point being the 1LE is only good at one thing. The zl1 is good at everything. Unless you are just buying a track car …. The 1le is pointless and paying more for it is laughable.
As soon as I heard that Chevy was done with the Camaro : I turned in my Lexus and got my 2024 Camaro Z1 as quickly as possible. I still don’t believe this is it- but if it is, my driving mine until 😂the wheels 🛞 fall off.👍
My guess would be how dangerous the car could become, the rear end is super loose with 650 and may have been a liability for GM to increase. That said, I agree, a final edition with the LT5 from the C7 ZR1 would have been awesome. Thanks for watching!
Lower the CEO wadges about 28 million a year then you could lower the price of the Camaro and keep the Camaro nobody needs 29 million a year to live like she gets i would love to have a new ZL1 but cant afford one i wish i could a used ZL1 hate to see the Camaro gone 😢
Unfortunately I think the issue is much more cost of parts, the CEO wage is just a tiny spec in GMs total income. Which would mean it will likely never be changed as the prices of metals has gone wild. A used one would be about 55k at best, best of luck and I hope you eventually get one!
Is there really a point to this vid? The zl1 6th gen camaro has been the same ever since 2016/17. Same looks and performance. Yes there was a modern exterior and internal tech change. But thats it
The main point is to celebrate how great this car was before it goes away forever. The small technically changes are irrelevant to the legacy it will be leaving. Thanks for watching
Anyone else think the zl1 looks bad? I just don’t like the face of it. Looks like it’s trying to be something it’s not. I think the LT1 and SS look the best
@@running2redline Feels like we're restricted on what to buy now. I wanna keep having these sport cars not some weird "futuristic" noises that ev's make.
Hopefully that demand drives manufacturers to keep going, I feel the same way. There has to be a better solution, and whoever comes up with it will make a lot of money
If people would boycott this nonsense and stop buying cars that are being forced on us the companies would have no choice but to make gas vehicles. Grow some balls people!
Sometimes Miata really is always the answer. If you ever hit the track though the full capacity of this car is truly mind bending. Thanks for watching!
A lot of truth to that. If you have an A10 transmission ZL1 the car it's almost, dare I say, too quiet and boring unless you are constantly stabbing the gas pedal or using the paddles to downshift all the time.
I’m glad I grabbed my 2023 ZL1 when I did . Never getting rid of it , it’s an incredible driving car and turns heads everywhere I go .
I just bought a 2023 6speed, had a 2019 auto before
Chevrolet is out of their mind with this woke electric bullshit. Nobody wants these electric cars
Sounds like a keeper to me!
Camaros don’t turn heads, Mustangs do.
Since you've had both, which one did you like more, 6 spd or auto?
It depends, I track the cars quite a bit. The six-speed is more entertaining to drive. On the road if you want to get the little backfires in the exhaust it's very easy with the rev match. On the track it's fun to go through the gears with the no lift shift, something you can't do on the road without likely ending up in jail. But on the track the automatic transmission is flawless, it always seems to be in the right year and keep the engine very close to redline and at the max power. It is certainly a faster car on the track. The automatic on the road is less entertaining to drive but easy to drive fast and you don't have to pay attention to it. Also I liked that my wife could drive it when she wanted to, she doesn't know how to drive a stick and doesn't want to learn. Those are my pros and cons. Either manual or automatic are well done and awesome in different ways
They should have dropped a final year Z28 with the LT5! Imagine a 755HP track focused Camaro!!
That would’ve been wild. Loved the gen V Z28, definitely a shame we didn’t get a gen VI.
@@running2redlineChevy doesn’t love us like that. They constantly let us down. Only thing that actually has good things invested in it is the vette
Should’ve went out with some kind of bang! Z28 would’ve been perfect. I wouldn’t have bought one but would’ve been nice. I have thought about buying an SS in the future and putting a LT5 in it just like you said tho
Agreed. At least we got the Yenko for a couple years but yes the LT5 100% needed to make more than one model year appearance 😭😭
Or just have given the zl1 an extra 100hp.
Gave me goose bumps when you said production is ending on Dec. 7 i thought it was on Jan. 4th im so glad i bought my 2023 ZL1
It’s crazy to think about. As we’re typing this we’re just a day away now, glad you managed to snag one. The 24s are nearly impossible to get from what I’ve heard. This owner only got one by trading his C8 to the dealer in exchange for them moving him up on the allocation list, because the dealer was out of C8s.
@@running2redline These constraints are a mess bro,Let me tell you a better one : Where i live there is a single chevy dealer for the entire nation and they got a single allocation for 2023 ZL1’s Literally the only 2023 model year in the country and they marked it up to 100k USD and i couldn’t pass it up just my luck
That’s far crazier, 100k markup is a lot. But at least you now have a 1 of 1 in the whole country. That’s absolutely sick and the perfect car to have that with!
@@running2redline no 100k total price with the mark up
@@running2redline I’d throw my self off of a cliff if i paid 100k mark up lol
Always loved the Camaro which always seemed like a bit of an underdog even at its peak. This was a very good review, the exterior shots are a great addition!
Thank you, the exterior shots were really fun to get!
Not understanding GM's rationale of getting rid of the ZL1 and all the Camaro to go electric. Wimps, Keep the American Muscle cars alive and stop being political. Let the market control the Camaro faith and not the Green Committee.
Will be very interesting to see if the sales numbers bite them for this, certainly a shame it’s gone.
Woman CEO put in her position by Obama
Please don’t tell everyone🤫
2 words : BLACK WING
God Bless Cadillac
The biggest reason production of the Sixth Gen has ended production is more than likely the increasingly strict EPA standards being pushed by the current administration. GM being fined for both Camaro and Corvette, and they’re not discontinuing the Vette. A 7th Gen is coming as GM has gone on record that Camaro’s story isn’t ending. The real question is what will it come back as. Even GM is scaling back a bit on the EV push so I’m not sure they even know yet.
Its electric race all companies want to be on top electric manifuctered and even go erment want gm to go for electric as soon as possible
I have a ZL1 and don't plan on ever selling it. I love driving it and I think it would be very hard to replace. I sincerely hope that Chevrolet will bring the Camaro back in the future.
I’m hoping this is another hiatus like between Gen 4 and Gen 5, unfortunately this discontinuation seems to be different. Definitely hold on to that ZL1!
theyre great CARS ill never get rid of mine.
Me either!
Thanks for the video. And thanks for not harping on the outward visibility. It's something that you get used to after driving in it for a few hundred miles. One thing I love not getting used to though is that supercharger whine.
Absolutely spot on. Having owned a Camaro at one point, I never got why people complained about it so much. It’s definitely something you just get used to quickly then forget about. I’m glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching!
i'm a bit sad they're not going to make an extra special "Camaro Z06" with the flat crank engine too, that would've been awesome
Should have done so as a Z/28 but GM has refused to show the Camaro any marketing this generation.
I just watched a video a few days ago that said they are reconsidering making the Z/28 with LT6 with either 6 speed manual with 600hp or 8 speed DC with 650hp for 2025 MY. I truly hope they do, I’m still mad they didn’t send the ZL1 off with the LT5 from C7 ZR1, they didn’t even give it the LT4+ from CT5-V BW and Escalade V, they also could have put the LT2 from C8 in the SS/LT1, but call LT1 the LT2. They don’t care if it’s not a C8 or an EV though.
I honestly think they understood that nothing was beating the corvette so they kinda let the Camaro sit to the side and just get some regular upgrades to keep it fresh and “new” but they for sure should’ve made a zr1 type of variant with 750+. Would’ve been dissgustinggg
ya I saw a video of them talking of making 2025 camaro with the new corvette engine. just like one of the guys that comment, gm would not let the camaro be stronger or faster than the corvette. fingers crossed
@@samholcombe3129 GM could have made an SS 396 with the 6.6 gas truck block if they wanted too. I can't figure out why we didn't get more trim levels and engine options in the generation.
I bought a 2021 ZL1 with only 3773 miles on it from a Chevrolet dealership in Oregon about a month ago.. It is red just like the one in the video. I absolutely love it...!! The last car I want to own..!
Congrats, I’m sure you’ll enjoy the car for a long time!
I ordered a 2013 2SS RS with all options and have really enjoyed it these past 10+ years. I don't drive it a lot, it only has 30K on it, but every time I think about selling it, I just have to listen to that dual mode exhausted 6.2 L and I come back to my senses.
We are saying goodbye to greatness again. 😢 GM has lost its mind.
I really just hope this is another scenario like between Gen 4 and Gen 5 where it’s a break, but this unfortunately feels different. Used to be a big GM guy, but their new cars and decisions have lost me. Thanks for watching!
Great review/Commentary. I picked up a 2019 ZL1 when released that year. Roto fab and larger throttle body to get near 700 hp without a tune and enjoy. It's brutal, but refined. Loud, but subdued when needed, and looks damn imposing on the road with very comfortable seats.
That must be addictive to drive, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Great review video on the greatest American muscle car!!! I was surprised that you didn’t mention the 2024 ZL1 Collector Edition. Limited to only 350 units, that car is awesome! Very high demand, and most qualified buyers who wanted one, didn’t get one.
You’re totally right not sure how I missed that, I can’t imagine how hard getting your hands on one would be. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this excellent and respectful review. The 6th gen Camaro certainly deserved a different fate or at the very least a proper sendoff by GM. I will hold on to my beloved 2018 for as long as possible, and probably never buy a GM vehicle again.
I’m glad you enjoyed it, it’s a shame to see it go, and I can’t blame you for straying away from GM. It’s unfortunate the direction they’ve went, but at least we experienced the final and likely best iteration of the Camaro, definitely hold on to it! Thanks for watching
GM listen to me all you had to do was drop the 755hp LT5 in with the DCT and the hybrid front drive and the car would have gone out like a legend lot in for the roll cage and the interchiller
You need a job immediately
I wanted to order a 24 ZL1, but no local dealer could get an allocation. (south Texas) Some couldn't even order a Camaro at all. I was working with one dealership who had a Camaro stuck in intermediate transport hell, and couldn't even answer if they would ever receive it. I was persistent through September to January, and finally in early February, they got a message that it would arrive in two weeks. I rushed in to make the deal, and it was a 24 ZL1 convertible! I took delivery in March and have about 500 miles on it now. Amazing car!
It’s nuts how hard it was to get a hold of one, but congrats that’s a keeper for sure!
WHY WOULD THEY DISCONTINUE THW CAMARO ITS SO POPULAR AND COMMON IM GENUINELY VERY MAD ABT THAT. I’m glad you posted this video so we will never forget the legacy Camaro has created. R.I.P. Chevrolet Camaro
Hoping it makes a comeback someday!
@@running2redline hopefully I want a Camaro so bad and I watched this video cause I’m trying to figure out whether I should get the SS or the zl1. Which would be better in your opinion? I feel the SS is better and more practical but idek
I think the ZL1 will hold value better, but the SS is far cheaper and easier to drive flat out without sliding or spinning, as well as not reaching jail speeds instantaneously. If you don’t care about the extra power and the 455 in the SS is fine, then save yourself the money. I think a test drive would be the best way to find out if you are left craving more after hopping in an SS. Good luck with the search and hope you find one you love!
They weren't really selling that well. The numbers dropped considerably over the last few years. They are a great car - I have a 2022 SS and it's been a pleasure to drive. But selling only 20,000 units a year doesn't work for the bean counters.
@@larrylarry739 dang. Dude I see Camaros all the time. This sucks
Should’ve put the lt2 in the ss/lt1 models and lt5 In the zl1s
The ZL1 is a real masterpiece and the best performing muscle car for me. Glad to own one of these last great cars full of emotion and rough driver feeling, especially with the 6MT.
This final generation was one of the most dialed in machines I’ve ever had the chance to drive. It’s certainly going out on a high note, hang onto yours!
@@running2redline For sure I will keep this car forever! Same to my R35 GTR and 370Z Nismo V2. Their character is a piece of art for me.
That's an awesome collection, I like your taste in cars. Congrats.@@petermeister7191
The ZL1 is a definite collectors item and the last of the old school muscle cars. The emphasis is definitely on MUSCLE 💪 with this rocketship. The car is at a great price point for the performance and quality on offer, with the car the complete package not just an LT4 engine stuffed in a chassis.
The way the heat exchangers are placed in the ZL1 work better than the Corvette setup due to the better locations.
The Camaro is a great car whether it's the manual or automatic V8 version and will be remembered fondly.
I personally don't like the 1LE package for a street driven car as it is way to harsh and overkill for the under maintained roads in the USA...
On a personal note it's a sad day for me knowing the Camaro in it's current iteration is going to disappear.
The car shown in this video is an absolutely fantastic performance coupe.
😎🇦🇺😟👍
I love that GM and Ford used previous gen. designs for ZL1 and GT350/500. So much better looking than newer designs from both companies
These are great cars with a well engineered chassis. Id skip the track focused edition, get the manual and go with the excellent magna ride option. To my eyes, looks great as well.
That’s exactly what this owner did and the car was a dream to drive!
I love Camaros so much! It’s sad I’ve just got back into cars and they’re discontinuing 😭
I have had 2 6th Gen ZL1s ( standard and 1LE) and I’m keeping mine. I daily a ZL11LE in the same color as this car
That’s a great combo, I much prefer the look of the 1LE, the canards look menacing. Definitely a keeper!
As the owner of a Zl1 i can say that it does everything well. Ive had many other sports cars and as far a s American ones go its my favourite .
I was really amazed how well the weight is hidden. I’m sure you’ve enjoyed it thoroughly!
Great review brother! I daily a 19' Mustang GT drop top so i am sad ICE muscle cars are dying out
Thank you! It’s a shame to see them go, but hoping it’s just a phase.
I can’t believe my dream car is gone 😢
Hopefully we can still get our dream car this year 💯💯
I have a 2023 ZL1 M6 Shark Skin Metallic. I am glad I bought the car, it took 8 months to get the car.
I’m sure it was worth the wait, sounds like a keeper!
How come 8 months
I compared the engine exhaust sound to some of the 2024 $180K and Up MB AMG S63 and AMG GT 63's. Not much difference. Matter of fact, that Camaro sounds better.
Liked the video and great editing. Subscribed!
Much appreciated, welcome to the channel!
A beautiful car. I have a Camaro ss and i love it. Wouldn't take anything for it. So much fun to drive.
Me too the SS is fast enough for me I can only imagine how much faster the zl1 is 😮
Good review! Goodbye Camaro, you will be missed. :(
I’m glad you enjoyed! It’s a shame to see it go.
The Camaro and Garth Brooks have a lot in common. They both have retired, a lot.
That car is sweet. Thank you for the Video. Loved it.
I sincerely hope this is just really a marketing gimic because the camaro rocks! 🎸 "Foo's'!
GM missed a huge chance, a supercharged 7 liter would’ve been a great modern take on the original ZL1
To young to buy a Camaro really been the only muscle car that I’ve dreamed of but with all the electric car bs, the dream of buying one is fading away and hopefully not but looks to be turning into a dream after all😢
I personally think the best bang for buck with a Camaro is the 2010-2015 Gen 5 SS. A good one can be found for 20, and they remind me more of the original Camaro than the 6th gen. It also has the LS3, which is automotive gold. Stay persistent and you’ll make it happen, good luck!
Great review 👌🏿
Really good review short and sweet
Much appreciated! I tried keeping this one concise and to the point.
Excellent presentation.
Much appreciated, trying to get better with each video!
You seem to have forgotten the Panther collectors edition package on the ZL1. That would be the one to have. And just like last time GM has failed to advertise the Camaro brand and has killed an icon in the car community. Just look at what dodge has done with the challenger platform with very little changes. Especially with the chasis. They advertised the crap out of that brand and look at the sales versus the Camaro. I have had 2 4th gens, a 2010 ss, a 2012 ZL1 and now have a 2017 HBM ZL1 that I ordered new. Love the Camaro, but hate GM for not treating it as the icon that it is. But they would rather put all their money in EVs. Waiting to see who will bail them out of bankruptcy this time. Probably China again.
Completely fair, I love the Camaro and daily a vette, but I must admit I am not at all a fan of the direction GM is going. Hoping this is another phase out like between the 4th and 5th Gen but this time feels different unfortunately. Thanks for watching
I had a dream that I bought this car and I don't even like Camaros, so random but it is a beautiful car
i got the lt1 v8 it nice
When they discontinue the Camaro and start making electric ones and if the sales drop, do you guys think that they would start making V8 versions again? i need to know if that's possible man it's so sad :(((
It’s hard to say, if the Corvette didn’t exist I would think that the super low sales would drive them back to a V8. However, with most of the focus shifting to the Corvette and the popularity of the C8, they might feel just fine letting it go. I personally like to think they’ll eventually follow demand and bring it back like the gap between the 4th and 5th generations.
@@running2redline i hope they bring the Camaro back.. it's an incredible car
Why couldn't they just put the hybrid V8 that they already made for the corvette in this... GM is fucking stupid for letting their most iconic car die like this
It’s a shame to see it go, thankfully the LT4 is still one of the best engines they have ever produced.
I was thinking of getting a ZL1 but since parts are gonna be much more expensive I can’t justify the price they’re being sold rn. I’m sure they’ll get more expensive down the line as well I wanna get something that when I buy it I can go. Ok yea that’s what it’s worth I can pay that.
The dealer markups have been atrocious, this owner only secured one by a trade. Great cars, but this market is indeed brutal. Thanks for watching, and good luck if you try to grab one.
Are we really sure that Camaro won't return again in a few years? IMO the rivalry between the Camaro and Mustang has made both of them better.
I hope it will and I agree the rivalry has pushed both cars a long way
The 1le is definitely not a more advanced suspension. It’s a dumbed down version from the magnaride. The 1le package is actually a downgrade from the ZL1. They just have people convinced it’s worth more because they add all the gaudy canards, wing, wheels carbon fiber everywhere stuff. It may be slightly better on the track but not for the road. Where as the zl1 is great for both.
Its spring rates are far stiffer, you could argue that’s a downgrade in terms of manufacturing cost as it is a fixed suspension rather than full magnaride. But in terms of performance the suspension is certainly more advanced from the additional rigidity, the lap times back that up, where the 1LE is far quicker.
@@running2redline my point being the 1LE is only good at one thing. The zl1 is good at everything. Unless you are just buying a track car …. The 1le is pointless and paying more for it is laughable.
People saying it should have went out with a bang.. the ZL1 is the fuckin bang!
Definitely went out on a high note
when this car was taken from us, Chevrolet's heart and soul was taken from us
As soon as I heard that Chevy was done with the Camaro : I turned in my Lexus and got my 2024 Camaro Z1 as quickly as possible. I still don’t believe this is it- but if it is, my driving mine until 😂the wheels 🛞 fall off.👍
Good move, enjoy it!
I think GM needs to keep building the Camaro and DISCONTINUE the tree hugging bean counters!!
Fingers crossed it comes back at some point
Sad gm didn't let it out with a big hp bang like the challenger 1000hp why not go out with a bang
My guess would be how dangerous the car could become, the rear end is super loose with 650 and may have been a liability for GM to increase. That said, I agree, a final edition with the LT5 from the C7 ZR1 would have been awesome. Thanks for watching!
I’m going to start my own muscle car company
Definitely a growing hole it the market for such a thing!
Sad 🥺 no more Camaro! Why get rid of an iconic muscle car?
Hoping it’s another break like between 4th and 5th Gen, but unfortunately I think it’s really gone.
yes, GM must be keep the camaro zl1 always
Love everything about the car but I'd get the 10 spd auto. The LT5 should have at least been put in the car for the final year, SMH...
Still stupid they discontinuing the Camaro
Very unfortunate
I am about to cry
Such a shame to see it go
They are really going to end it with 650 hp?! Why not 750+ to keep up with the GT500?
Would’ve been nuts if they dropped the LT5 in there with 755hp.
The final roar where GM's sales, among those of other brands, will begin to slide right off the cliff.
Lower the CEO wadges about 28 million a year then you could lower the price of the Camaro and keep the Camaro nobody needs 29 million a year to live like she gets i would love to have a new ZL1 but cant afford one i wish i could a used ZL1 hate to see the Camaro gone 😢
Unfortunately I think the issue is much more cost of parts, the CEO wage is just a tiny spec in GMs total income. Which would mean it will likely never be changed as the prices of metals has gone wild. A used one would be about 55k at best, best of luck and I hope you eventually get one!
GM you're making a Big Mistake 🤦🏽😤💯
Exactly I feel the same way I don't know what they're going to replace it with
One bad-ass machine from Chevy- sorry to see it go but the cowards at Chevy are to blame.
Hopefully it makes a return one day, like the Gen 5 did
Been shopping for 1. Seeing them $90k to $140k.
That’s crazy, the dealer markups or your particular area must be super high. Good luck with finding one!
@@running2redline ty. Im shopping national now.
Is there really a point to this vid? The zl1 6th gen camaro has been the same ever since 2016/17. Same looks and performance. Yes there was a modern exterior and internal tech change. But thats it
The main point is to celebrate how great this car was before it goes away forever. The small technically changes are irrelevant to the legacy it will be leaving. Thanks for watching
zl1-1le is the highest of the highest
I thought they were gonna make it for one more year? 😢
Unfortunately the last one is getting made this week
Dang and this the car i want after i became a adult
Yeah..they shuold say goodbye with a C8 z06 engine edition
That would be incredible, imagine hearing that sound out of a Camaro
Is This The Most Powerful Road Legal Camaro ?
From factory yes, but I knew a guy that modified a ZL1 to push 980WHP and drove it on the street. Insane to think about what that must feel like.
@@running2redline NiC3
They will repent of this mistake sooner than later... Camaro will returns
Price of a families first home... Maybe back in 2008.
I feel that
Anyone else think the zl1 looks bad? I just don’t like the face of it. Looks like it’s trying to be something it’s not. I think the LT1 and SS look the best
Could definitely see how the SS front end would be preferred, a little cleaner in the grille area. Thanks for watching
CAMARO ❤🤍💙
Gone in 2002. Gone in 2024.
Hoping it’s a similar scenario and they bring it back
Gm needs better engineering this car is great but it can't put down the power just like all GM products
Rear wheel traction has certainly been a recurring issue. Thanks for watching!
You mean the final roar before the industry plummets
If you mean ICE going away my personal opinion is that it’s looking increasingly unlikely that will happen. We’ll have to see though
@@running2redline Feels like we're restricted on what to buy now. I wanna keep having these sport cars not some weird "futuristic" noises that ev's make.
Hopefully that demand drives manufacturers to keep going, I feel the same way. There has to be a better solution, and whoever comes up with it will make a lot of money
Too heavy to turn???
It hides its weight surprisingly well. Very flat in turns from thick sway bars and sharp front end grip.
If people would boycott this nonsense and stop buying cars that are being forced on us the companies would have no choice but to make gas vehicles. Grow some balls people!
It will be interesting to see how the coming years develop. EV demand is definitely withering out a little, ford shut down their production
You have to break the speed limit to enjoy that car. So good riddance to it.
Sometimes Miata really is always the answer. If you ever hit the track though the full capacity of this car is truly mind bending. Thanks for watching!
A lot of truth to that. If you have an A10 transmission ZL1 the car it's almost, dare I say, too quiet and boring unless you are constantly stabbing the gas pedal or using the paddles to downshift all the time.
Camaros have the laziest design
Interesting take, to each their own.
@@running2redline they’ve looked slightly the same for the most part but get uglier every year
For all we know they might drop a nuclear bomb with a 7th gen
That would be wild, but I’d love to see it
I always wished they'd changed that ugly interior.
I do think the Alcantara finish really helps it, feels much more upscale. Recaro seats do quite a bit too. Thanks for watching!
Boycott GM.
They’ve now killed off the manual too, unfortunate
I always wanted one