Only just had the chance to comment. Excellent film and excellent skills, real perseverance. Land Rover Sophie had a complete chassis galvanised and she painted it with Corroless, did a good job with all the prep etc beforehand. Definitely worth checking out.
Nice work Mat, you sure have came a long way buddy. You are doing a great job. These big projects seem like they never end, but they do. It's the journey that is enjoyable for me even if it doesn't seem like it in the moment. Keep pushing.
Hi Steve, good to see you drop by and comment. Clanger is not quite to the class of your truck rebuild! Mind, I’ve a lot less rust than when I started😃
@lookcreations Having those parts hot dipped will make them last a lifetime. I've fixed my share of rusty vehicles. You work with what you have. They are not easy to find and most of them are rusty. Good job Mat👍
This new fangled Steel or Aluminium lined paint will never catch, the hunt for metallic materials continues 🤔. Certainly poor service from the galvanising company, plenty of hanging points on it, though it certainly looks 100% better now, bits going on . Thanks for sharing
Its been an epic rebuild journey so far young man. Pity about the damage, have experienced this myself with galv firms. The tunnel piece, you are correct about the use of dumdum paste as a sealant between it and the bulkhead. They never were a good fit either. I can recommend Leadmate sealant instead. It sticks like sh 1 t to a blanket (even on aluminium), remains semi flexible, is far and away superior to silicon sealant and is as perfect a frame, crack, seam and joint sealer as you can buy. Best regards, Jon.
Sorry to hear your parts were damaged. I undertook a similar S3 109 restoration with all original galv parts regalvanised and got lucky when it came to bashes and dings. I had a lot of excess galv though to grind back. Keep up the good work 👏💪
With the tailgate...... If the frame is clamped down flat, not twisted , I'm pretty sure that when the panel is riveted to the frame all around it will keep it flat. You may need to rivet from centre of panel out towards the corners..... Press flat between rivets before popping the rivet. Some new holes and rivets may be required because the rivet needs no play in the hole. Sheet metal worker of 40yrs.
I’ve just spent an hour trying to get the galvanised panel a bit more flat, to no avail. I’m going to look at the frame to see if it can be stiffened up. As it is the galvanised panel is twisted and bowed centre to outer edges. Make a good bird feeder 😃
I still think that if you rivet the panel to the frame whilst the frame is clamped flat.... All will be good. The frame straightens the panel around all 4 sides and the panel stops the frame twisting. Just a few rivets to test.
I've just watched a RUclips video from Carter's Auto Restyling from 10 months ago in which he removes oil can effect from an old Chevrolet roof without shrinking. It's a double curvature panel without channels rolled in like your tailgate panel, but it might give you some pointers to try to get your panel flatter. Regards.
I used to make gates etc for a living. Hot dip galv was the only rust protection that I endorsed. It wasn't a question have they bent anything ? but WHICH have they bent ? Every delivery regardless of the company .. they were all as bad as each other. I had to collect an urgent job once and saw the manager drive the fork lift truck over someone's gates rather than manoeuvre around them. They were all animals I concluded. The response to complaint was "if you repair it we will dip it again for free" So my customers were buying a second hand repaired item before I had even installed them. It is still the only finish I would recommend for proper rust prevention.
Most of the damage on my bits look like impact related. A degree of warp from heat . Shit happens… it is what it is. Stamping my feet isn’t going to change anything. At least they didn’t lose anything
Gday Matt, it’s bloody annoying when parts a damaged, makes you wonder what they did and how many times this happens, your making good progress now and won’t be long and you’ll be bolting on all the shiny bits, cheers
Looking forward to getting the bulkhead mounted as it’ll be out of my way and with it in place I can mount quite a few other bits that are hanging around like pedal towers etc
Mat, I'm sure you're a ticked off as I would be after spending so much time on that bulkhead. I do like how the primer looks. Still time for some bucket and a pint to putter around while on blocks.
I wonder if that piece just bent itself from stress relief? I know it was patched from a bunch of pieces so I am sure it had a lot of residual stress. the heat from galavanizing could easily cause things to go all potato chip. Still quite possible they just wrecked it too. Hopefully they gave you a discount. At least maybe it won't rust like it was dipped in salt water like the original one.
There’s some heat distortion evident, oil canning that wasn’t there. But the top rail had some impact damage which I couldn’t remove completely. With hinde sight, maybe I should have built a frame around it to get dipped….
I am surprised that someone one hasn’t picked it up and making an equivalent for Landy and other vintage vehicles. It’s got a long shelf life (years) and plenty of applications. 3M do a spool of sealer strip for windows which from the adds looks similar
You just can't get the staff any more! It is down to some clumsy bugger chucking stuff about and not caring, if he is a one man band, then he is doing himself no favours, if it is an employee, he is doing his boss no favours. I would have paid up and then kicked up a bit of a fuss about the damage! You could clamp the long edge at the screen bottom between two lengths of angle iron with a little tapping to get it to bed down, it will still wrinkle, but you may get it straighter. Other than that, very enjoyable video and good progress! Phil
No, it’s not the sort of place that I had anything to gain by complaining. More likely to be refused to take any more galv work. Besides, I think I’ve spent c £125 on everything I’ve had galvanised. I surprised they offer the service
Why do you use these terrible galvanisers who drop everything from a great height? On the other hand, if they only charged £15 it's ridiculous: the zinc must cost more than that.
There’s only a couple of firms in the north west. I take the parts to a local fabrication shop that sends out parts twice a week. It’s £1/kg so it’s good value but obviously not ideal for light weight stuff. Another lesson learned
My experience they are all the same. They pay bonus on tonnage. They are used to RSJ's and love them for their weight. Tin ware is a nuisance and doesn't earn bonus. If the dipping wasn't responsible for damage the lorry drivers strapping down onto a flat bed were quite capable of distorting stuff. Over years I found you could not win.
I'd be rather more than bloody annoyed at the damage to the bulkhead, I'd be fucking fuming! I hope you have complained and claimed compensation for the damage?
Awful shame about the damage from galvanisers. I would be steaming too but understand your philosophical attitude. Best take the dog for a walk in your beautiful countryside and get things into perspective.
When I lose my rag, it’s full of expletives, proper tantrum stuff - I learned a long time ago it’s better to release it rather than bottle it up. Very rare that I lose a grip in front of others …. except the dog. She slinks into hiding and waits for me to calm down! Then generally cheers me up and gets me out.
Only just had the chance to comment. Excellent film and excellent skills, real perseverance. Land Rover Sophie had a complete chassis galvanised and she painted it with Corroless, did a good job with all the prep etc beforehand. Definitely worth checking out.
Nice work Mat, you sure have came a long way buddy. You are doing a great job. These big projects seem like they never end, but they do. It's the journey that is enjoyable for me even if it doesn't seem like it in the moment. Keep pushing.
Hi Steve, good to see you drop by and comment. Clanger is not quite to the class of your truck rebuild! Mind, I’ve a lot less rust than when I started😃
@lookcreations Having those parts hot dipped will make them last a lifetime. I've fixed my share of rusty vehicles. You work with what you have. They are not easy to find and most of them are rusty. Good job Mat👍
I’ve just done mordunt t wash on my defender 110 bulkhead, unfortunately yodel have lost my etch primer so no more work on it this weekend!
This new fangled Steel or Aluminium lined paint will never catch, the hunt for metallic materials continues 🤔.
Certainly poor service from the galvanising company, plenty of hanging points on it, though it certainly looks 100% better now, bits going on .
Thanks for sharing
Master of the crusties. I admire your perseverance! It's going to be beautiful though. Sure of that!!!
Its been an epic rebuild journey so far young man. Pity about the damage, have experienced this myself with galv firms.
The tunnel piece, you are correct about the use of dumdum paste as a sealant between it and the bulkhead. They never were a good fit either. I can recommend Leadmate sealant instead. It sticks like sh 1 t to a blanket (even on aluminium), remains semi flexible, is far and away superior to silicon sealant and is as perfect a frame, crack, seam and joint sealer as you can buy.
Best regards, Jon.
From what i have heard, the galvanizing usually distorts the panels. Very hard to avoid that. But then again, it is just an old Land Rover. :D
Sorry to hear your parts were damaged. I undertook a similar S3 109 restoration with all original galv parts regalvanised and got lucky when it came to bashes and dings. I had a lot of excess galv though to grind back. Keep up the good work 👏💪
With the tailgate...... If the frame is clamped down flat, not twisted , I'm pretty sure that when the panel is riveted to the frame all around it will keep it flat. You may need to rivet from centre of panel out towards the corners..... Press flat between rivets before popping the rivet. Some new holes and rivets may be required because the rivet needs no play in the hole.
Sheet metal worker of 40yrs.
I’ve just spent an hour trying to get the galvanised panel a bit more flat, to no avail. I’m going to look at the frame to see if it can be stiffened up. As it is the galvanised panel is twisted and bowed centre to outer edges. Make a good bird feeder 😃
I still think that if you rivet the panel to the frame whilst the frame is clamped flat.... All will be good. The frame straightens the panel around all 4 sides and the panel stops the frame twisting. Just a few rivets to test.
Good job. When I sent a load of stuff to the galvanisers they lost both my door cappings, both bonnet hinges and both antiluce brackets. Great.!
That’s what I feared, but the agent said as long as small bits are wired together and tally kept it’s pretty reliable 🤔
I've just watched a RUclips video from Carter's Auto Restyling from 10 months ago in which he removes oil can effect from an old Chevrolet roof without shrinking. It's a double curvature panel without channels rolled in like your tailgate panel, but it might give you some pointers to try to get your panel flatter. Regards.
I will take a look. Ive seen a few vids on shrinking to remove oil canning.
I used to make gates etc for a living.
Hot dip galv was the only rust protection that I endorsed.
It wasn't a question have they bent anything ? but WHICH have they bent ?
Every delivery regardless of the company .. they were all as bad as each other.
I had to collect an urgent job once and saw the manager drive the fork lift truck over someone's gates rather than manoeuvre around them.
They were all animals I concluded.
The response to complaint was "if you repair it we will dip it again for free"
So my customers were buying a second hand repaired item before I had even installed them.
It is still the only finish I would recommend for proper rust prevention.
Most of the damage on my bits look like impact related. A degree of warp from heat . Shit happens… it is what it is. Stamping my feet isn’t going to change anything. At least they didn’t lose anything
Gday Matt, it’s bloody annoying when parts a damaged, makes you wonder what they did and how many times this happens, your making good progress now and won’t be long and you’ll be bolting on all the shiny bits, cheers
Looking forward to getting the bulkhead mounted as it’ll be out of my way and with it in place I can mount quite a few other bits that are hanging around like pedal towers etc
Thanks Matt
Looks like those galv people are more at home with i-beams and tractor wheels :(
Your stiff upper lip and perseverance are exemplary! :)
Quite right sir
Mat, I'm sure you're a ticked off as I would be after spending so much time on that bulkhead. I do like how the primer looks. Still time for some bucket and a pint to putter around while on blocks.
Is there any chance you could do a video on how your lathe came out after all the restoration work you did on it. Cheers
I will once i get the shop clear of Landrover parts.
I wonder if that piece just bent itself from stress relief? I know it was patched from a bunch of pieces so I am sure it had a lot of residual stress. the heat from galavanizing could easily cause things to go all potato chip. Still quite possible they just wrecked it too. Hopefully they gave you a discount. At least maybe it won't rust like it was dipped in salt water like the original one.
There’s some heat distortion evident, oil canning that wasn’t there. But the top rail had some impact damage which I couldn’t remove completely. With hinde sight, maybe I should have built a frame around it to get dipped….
Lookin good !!
Polyfila in threaded holes is good.
I shall try n remember. I’ve a lot of holes to drill out n tap as it is.
Dum dum is a product that should not have been taken off the shelves. So many uses. Anyone know where I can still get some??
I am surprised that someone one hasn’t picked it up and making an equivalent for Landy and other vintage vehicles. It’s got a long shelf life (years) and plenty of applications. 3M do a spool of sealer strip for windows which from the adds looks similar
@@lookcreations I've used 3M Strip-Caulk which is a butyl material. Works wonderfully.
You just can't get the staff any more! It is down to some clumsy bugger chucking stuff about and not caring, if he is a one man band, then he is doing himself no favours, if it is an employee, he is doing his boss no favours. I would have paid up and then kicked up a bit of a fuss about the damage! You could clamp the long edge at the screen bottom between two lengths of angle iron with a little tapping to get it to bed down, it will still wrinkle, but you may get it straighter. Other than that, very enjoyable video and good progress!
Phil
Bit of a swine but it’ll work. It’s not like I’m going to run ether screen folded forward. Might get some fury dice on the dash as a distraction 🤣
@@lookcreations the fact is that we sweat these things because we like perfection, and then forget about them as soon as we are driving it!
Did you not complain about the state of it? I think I would have insisted on it being fixed at their expense. You can shrink metal into itself.
Good luck with that one. 🙈
No, it’s not the sort of place that I had anything to gain by complaining. More likely to be refused to take any more galv work. Besides, I think I’ve spent c £125 on everything I’ve had galvanised. I surprised they offer the service
Why do you use these terrible galvanisers who drop everything from a great height? On the other hand, if they only charged £15 it's ridiculous: the zinc must cost more than that.
There’s only a couple of firms in the north west. I take the parts to a local fabrication shop that sends out parts twice a week. It’s £1/kg so it’s good value but obviously not ideal for light weight stuff. Another lesson learned
My experience they are all the same.
They pay bonus on tonnage.
They are used to RSJ's and love them for their weight.
Tin ware is a nuisance and doesn't earn bonus.
If the dipping wasn't responsible for damage the lorry drivers strapping down onto a flat bed were quite capable of distorting stuff.
Over years I found you could not win.
@@stevewilliams2498 that’s pretty much my thoughts.
I'd be rather more than bloody annoyed at the damage to the bulkhead, I'd be fucking fuming! I hope you have complained and claimed compensation for the damage?
Awful shame about the damage from galvanisers. I would be steaming too but understand your philosophical attitude. Best take the dog for a walk in your beautiful countryside and get things into perspective.
When I lose my rag, it’s full of expletives, proper tantrum stuff - I learned a long time ago it’s better to release it rather than bottle it up. Very rare that I lose a grip in front of others …. except the dog. She slinks into hiding and waits for me to calm down! Then generally cheers me up and gets me out.