I HAD ONE OF THESE BIKES WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT IN 88..I RODE IT HARD FOR 11 YEARS AND NEVER HAD A MAJOR PROBLEM,EXCEPT THAT I HHAD TO REPLACE THE REAR TIRE EVERY 3 RIDES ,THATS A LOT OF TIRES,BUT IT WAS WORTH IT,I USED METZLER EXCLUSIVELY,,GREAT MACHINE,SWEEDEN SHOULD BE VERY PROUD
Congrats on your finish I was rooting for you guys both this year and last. I also wanted to say a huge THANK YOU for posting this video. I'm planning a TOI possibly in 2022 . Being on the east coast, 44 hours away by motovan from Idaho and not riding Idaho much it's hard to really understand what to pack and the little nuances for GPS, phone and bike set up. My plan is to ride my 300 but I also have a 18 FE 501 so may end up riding it instead. Thanks again for the video and congratulations! Cheers
You are more than welcome. I knew it would come in handy. At the time, there weren’t any others with all this info. There are some other really good ones now. Are you a team going this year?
what's the range on your 2 way radio? what was the farthest you ever got separated from your buddy? did you ever have issues with tubes or having to change tubes out on the trip? great video on your bike and great setup super helpful
@@jimmycrowell8854 they are basically family band radios. The range in the mountains is better than helmet mounted headsets but over hills and trees it’s not miles. They did save us and we ride with them every time now. We like the use because they mount great and have held up well. You can’t really have a conversation though while riding, if that makes sense. More for giving everyone a heads up on something, making turns, finding each other, etc. John and I did not have any issues but that was a huge stressor. Tubes just suck all around. On one ride where we took some other buddies on a couple days of the TOI, a guy got a flat and it took three hours of a day, and every last tube we had to finally get it. We ended up having to double tube it for things to hold. They suck. UHD tubes don’t patch in our experience. And thank you, it’s a killer bike and it was an amazing adventure.
Congrats on your team finishing. I got a great chuckle out of the crushed PBR can at 26:25! Did you carry that from Martin's for good luck? LOL I've been watching TOI seasons for a numbers of years now. My current season of life will almost certainly prevent me from making an attempt before Martin calls it quits. But living in Idaho and being so close to the trails, I'll ride the route "in the spirit of the Tour" when life calms down a bit. I'm assuming you drilled your tank to accommodate the alternative vent tube?
LOL, we grabbed a couple of PBRs in Priest River before the clime to Sundance. I’m sad to see the TOI go but at least the routes will be out there. These trails are so amazing. My buddy and I plan on riding many of the days this year of the new route, they seem so cool. I did drill my tank. That vent tube is nice for having a tank bag. Thank you! Good luck and enjoy life.
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the reply. I like the drilled vent tube idea. I'm having the same issue getting my Pico bag to sit atop my aftermarket tank cleanly. Any tips you care to share? What size hole did you drill? Simple 90 degree brass fitting threaded into the tank plastic? Teflon tape on the threads?
Congrats on the completion of TOI !, Nice video, you must be exhausted by now. I wonder if I have the stamina to finish off the tour. Can you give a brief breakdown of your hours spent on the seat per day roughly and did you consider running mousse bibs just for peace of mind? Thanks from Michigan
For the most part we were up and going on the trail by 4 AM. We were much more efficient this year than last and were usually done riding around five or 6 PM. That being said, our first attempt put us with 20 hour days. As far as the mousse bibs, they are greatly discouraged for that mileage and type of riding. The main issue is if you have a problem it’s a hard thing to fix on the trail. With an ultra heavy duty tube you can quickly patch it and keep going or just replace the tube. Running mousse bibs has ended more than one Tour of Idaho attempt. One of the solo finishers made it to Wallace but his moose bib was destroyed and if you go back and watch his interview with Martin he talks about how that was a big mistake. The tour of Idaho is something awesome and very special. It was a lot of work and life consuming but damn it was awesome. Thanks for watching let me know if you have any questions. Craig
Well, I never wished I was on a 350 but a 350 would be perfect for this type of adventure. Shedding a few pounds is always nice. Having the low end grunt is nice though on my 500. Also, I have since gotten rid of my auto clutch and wouldn’t go back. It was nice but after riding more hard enduro and loving my clutch and not having to adjust things would be ideal in my world. I could talk for hours on this stuff. Feel free to hit me up with any questions at all. 350 though? Hell of a weapon.
@hammy7139 thanks for reply Bro.. I can talk this stuff all day also..haha.. Long story short.. I'm from Vegas Living in Philippines. Looking at getting a small dual sport to tour All around Asia and find hidden trails along the way. They don't sell KTM or husky 350s or 500s here. So I'm looking at a beta 390 or 500.. I'm leaning towards a 390.. but not sure it will eat Road miles well.
@@ZSharkPH living the dream! Yeah, I’m not sure on that. If I were traveling around the world, it would be on my 500. I’m sure you’ve watched RTWPaul’s stuff?
I don’t have any evidence one way or the other. I can say, my 501 has done everything thrown at it without hesitation. If I had to only have one bike, it would be my 501. That’s choosing between a Husky TX 300, FE501, and KTM 890 Adv R.
@hammy7139 You the man !!! Never seen RTWPaul before.. great stuff. Just watched his MotoZ tire review.. I used those on my KTM690 from VEgas to PRudo bay Alaska. With IDBDR mixed in.. they wear great. Ride on !!!
Did you bring the charge cord for your XP1 battery pack to charge it at night in the motel? Do you think a single 2 gal gas bag is sufficient? Great job on the tour finish and thank you
I did bring the charge cord. I had a few things to charge at night. Whatever you do, don’t over look things like that and a helmet light. It’s a Tour ender if your main goes out. Gas bags… probably, if you’re getting the mileage I was getting. The problem is if it leaks. If we only would have had the bags that leaked, my buddy and I would have been in a bind. I like the 2 gallon better BUT you might be better off with 2 - 1 gallon bags. I think rolling them up might have caused the leaks but I’m not positive. Good luck, are you attempting it this year?
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the input. Got to keep it simple, but don't overlook the details. I am attempting this year, solo, leaving Aug. 4th. I have been leaning towards 2- 1gal bags. Having a backup bag is a great idea.
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the input. Got to keep it simple, but don't overlook the details. I am attempting this year, solo, leaving Aug. 4th. I have been leaning towards 2- 1gal bags. Having a backup bag is a great idea.
@@code4performance reach out if you have any questions at all. It’s a hell of an experience. The trails are the real deal so train a ton on two wheels all summer long. Another thing, practice slow speed bike balance, way better then putting things on like a LHRB. Enjoy it my friend. Seriously feel free to reach out for anything. I love this stuff.
Hey, thank you! They did work well but my eye are getting tired and the Garmin was a little hard to read is all. It’s way more detailed though. The 500 is awesome!
Shoot, my bad, I misread that. Our radios, yes they did. Usually we couldn’t hear the first time but knew the other guy was talking. So a quick follow up is all it took. The nice thing about the BCA’s are that all the controls are on the mic. Running them on a .5 watt channel was also good enough for us most of the time.
I suppose it sure could? I’m not one either. However, I took my Rekluse off and it kicks ass again. I probably didn’t have it adjusted properly. I like the stock clutch better and a ton more power.
Thanks for all the info. We’re in the planning phases of this ride. In hindsight, how much fuel would each guy have if you did it again? Curious if Klim is gonna fix/improve those boots. Garniers ain’t waterproof but no way they’ll separate
I need to update that video a little. Yes, KILM was great and they did warranty them. As far as fuel, what are you riding and do you know your mileage?
@@sanjosejeff I would only take a 2 gallon gas bag. We both had a 1 gallon back leak on us. This being said, the 2022 route will be changing a lot so I'm not sure what the longest distances are without fuel stops. Also, if I was a betting man, the Tour of Idaho is on its last years. I know Martin wants to do other things in life and its a ton of work for him. So, if you want to give it a shot, you guys need to jump on it.
Absolutely but I didn’t do routes just the waypoints. Routes will disqualify you from the TOI. Honestly, the waypoints Martin has are plenty. I then downloaded every map onto my phone that the waypoints were on so service wasn’t required. Don’t pass up the chance to do the TOI, it’s something else for sure and hard as hell.
@@hammy7139 we are planning on a three-man team in 2023. I'm already putting all my stuff together and plan for it. I hear it's 13 days this year but will still be awesome. I'm going to have alternate navigation but I've always used onyx and was excited to see that you were able to use it so well for the toi. Thanks for the information looking forward to August of 23
@@snogimp393 yeah, I would make sure and have 3 forms. As far as the 13 days, it’s going to be epic. The new stuff added is going to be amazing. I might go ride a few days of it this year before the season starts.
I’ve found it to be very clean overall and it doesn’t coat the chain. I’m more worried about keeping the water out of it than anything which is what WD40 does best. I’ve just found it to work great?
I HAD ONE OF THESE BIKES WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT IN 88..I RODE IT HARD FOR 11 YEARS AND NEVER HAD A MAJOR PROBLEM,EXCEPT THAT I HHAD TO REPLACE THE REAR TIRE EVERY 3 RIDES ,THATS A LOT OF TIRES,BUT IT WAS WORTH IT,I USED METZLER EXCLUSIVELY,,GREAT MACHINE,SWEEDEN SHOULD BE VERY PROUD
They are darn good bikes. I love mine.! Thank for watching.
Congrats on your finish I was rooting for you guys both this year and last. I also wanted to say a huge THANK YOU for posting this video. I'm planning a TOI possibly in 2022 . Being on the east coast, 44 hours away by motovan from Idaho and not riding Idaho much it's hard to really understand what to pack and the little nuances for GPS, phone and bike set up. My plan is to ride my 300 but I also have a 18 FE 501 so may end up riding it instead. Thanks again for the video and congratulations! Cheers
Feel free to call me if you have any questions. I have lots of thoughts on the bikes and too have both. The 501 if it’s up to it.
Nice follow up. Congrats on the finish.
Sweet bike bro. My dream is to own a 500 or 501 light adventure. Just subbed 🤘
Thanks! It is set up really nice. I would love to ride it around the world.
Congrats on finishing! I hope to do this ride one day. Nice detailed video. Thanks
It’s an awesome ride and a challenge of a life time.
Thanks for doing this video. Helpful
You are more than welcome. I knew it would come in handy. At the time, there weren’t any others with all this info. There are some other really good ones now.
Are you a team going this year?
Congrats on finishing
Thanks, it was some work!
Excellent video brother. Thank you for sharing.
More than welcome. I made it because I couldn’t find the exact information for a ride like this. I hope it helps a little.
what's the range on your 2 way radio? what was the farthest you ever got separated from your buddy? did you ever have issues with tubes or having to change tubes out on the trip? great video on your bike and great setup super helpful
@@jimmycrowell8854 they are basically family band radios. The range in the mountains is better than helmet mounted headsets but over hills and trees it’s not miles. They did save us and we ride with them every time now. We like the use because they mount great and have held up well. You can’t really have a conversation though while riding, if that makes sense. More for giving everyone a heads up on something, making turns, finding each other, etc.
John and I did not have any issues but that was a huge stressor. Tubes just suck all around. On one ride where we took some other buddies on a couple days of the TOI, a guy got a flat and it took three hours of a day, and every last tube we had to finally get it. We ended up having to double tube it for things to hold. They suck. UHD tubes don’t patch in our experience.
And thank you, it’s a killer bike and it was an amazing adventure.
thanks for the information
You bet! Let me know if you have any questions. I updated some info in the description.
Very helpful. Thank you
Congrats on your team finishing. I got a great chuckle out of the crushed PBR can at 26:25! Did you carry that from Martin's for good luck? LOL
I've been watching TOI seasons for a numbers of years now. My current season of life will almost certainly prevent me from making an attempt before Martin calls it quits. But living in Idaho and being so close to the trails, I'll ride the route "in the spirit of the Tour" when life calms down a bit.
I'm assuming you drilled your tank to accommodate the alternative vent tube?
LOL, we grabbed a couple of PBRs in Priest River before the clime to Sundance.
I’m sad to see the TOI go but at least the routes will be out there. These trails are so amazing. My buddy and I plan on riding many of the days this year of the new route, they seem so cool.
I did drill my tank. That vent tube is nice for having a tank bag.
Thank you! Good luck and enjoy life.
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the reply. I like the drilled vent tube idea. I'm having the same issue getting my Pico bag to sit atop my aftermarket tank cleanly.
Any tips you care to share? What size hole did you drill? Simple 90 degree brass fitting threaded into the tank plastic? Teflon tape on the threads?
@@idnld1588 check out tacomoto.co, they have the vent kit. It’s not very expensive. They have lots of awesome stuff.
@@hammy7139 Outstanding, thank you for the tip! Will place the order tomorrow.
@@idnld1588 cool, reach out of you have any questions at all. I love this stuff. I had my bike dialed in as good as I possibly could.
Drystar tech7. Good kit
Congrats on the completion of TOI !, Nice video, you must be exhausted by now. I wonder if I have the stamina to finish off the tour. Can you give a brief breakdown of your hours spent on the seat per day roughly and did you consider running mousse bibs just for peace of mind? Thanks from Michigan
For the most part we were up and going on the trail by 4 AM. We were much more efficient this year than last and were usually done riding around five or 6 PM. That being said, our first attempt put us with 20 hour days.
As far as the mousse bibs, they are greatly discouraged for that mileage and type of riding. The main issue is if you have a problem it’s a hard thing to fix on the trail. With an ultra heavy duty tube you can quickly patch it and keep going or just replace the tube. Running mousse bibs has ended more than one Tour of Idaho attempt. One of the solo finishers made it to Wallace but his moose bib was destroyed and if you go back and watch his interview with Martin he talks about how that was a big mistake.
The tour of Idaho is something awesome and very special. It was a lot of work and life consuming but damn it was awesome. Thanks for watching let me know if you have any questions.
Craig
Great review man... did you ever wish you were on a 350 instead?
Well, I never wished I was on a 350 but a 350 would be perfect for this type of adventure. Shedding a few pounds is always nice. Having the low end grunt is nice though on my 500.
Also, I have since gotten rid of my auto clutch and wouldn’t go back. It was nice but after riding more hard enduro and loving my clutch and not having to adjust things would be ideal in my world.
I could talk for hours on this stuff. Feel free to hit me up with any questions at all.
350 though? Hell of a weapon.
@hammy7139 thanks for reply Bro.. I can talk this stuff all day also..haha.. Long story short.. I'm from Vegas Living in Philippines. Looking at getting a small dual sport to tour All around Asia and find hidden trails along the way. They don't sell KTM or husky 350s or 500s here. So I'm looking at a beta 390 or 500.. I'm leaning towards a 390.. but not sure it will eat Road miles well.
@@ZSharkPH living the dream! Yeah, I’m not sure on that. If I were traveling around the world, it would be on my 500. I’m sure you’ve watched RTWPaul’s stuff?
I don’t have any evidence one way or the other. I can say, my 501 has done everything thrown at it without hesitation. If I had to only have one bike, it would be my 501.
That’s choosing between a Husky TX 300, FE501, and KTM 890 Adv R.
@hammy7139 You the man !!! Never seen RTWPaul before.. great stuff. Just watched his MotoZ tire review.. I used those on my KTM690 from VEgas to PRudo bay Alaska. With IDBDR mixed in.. they wear great. Ride on !!!
Did you bring the charge cord for your XP1 battery pack to charge it at night in the motel? Do you think a single 2 gal gas bag is sufficient? Great job on the tour finish and thank you
I did bring the charge cord. I had a few things to charge at night. Whatever you do, don’t over look things like that and a helmet light. It’s a Tour ender if your main goes out.
Gas bags… probably, if you’re getting the mileage I was getting. The problem is if it leaks. If we only would have had the bags that leaked, my buddy and I would have been in a bind. I like the 2 gallon better BUT you might be better off with 2 - 1 gallon bags. I think rolling them up might have caused the leaks but I’m not positive.
Good luck, are you attempting it this year?
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the input. Got to keep it simple, but don't overlook the details. I am attempting this year, solo, leaving Aug. 4th. I have been leaning towards 2- 1gal bags. Having a backup bag is a great idea.
@@hammy7139 Thank you for the input. Got to keep it simple, but don't overlook the details. I am attempting this year, solo, leaving Aug. 4th. I have been leaning towards 2- 1gal bags. Having a backup bag is a great idea.
@@code4performance reach out if you have any questions at all. It’s a hell of an experience. The trails are the real deal so train a ton on two wheels all summer long. Another thing, practice slow speed bike balance, way better then putting things on like a LHRB.
Enjoy it my friend. Seriously feel free to reach out for anything. I love this stuff.
congrats on the finish!!
Your 2 ways, they work well while moving on the trail? while on transfer sections?
Thanks
Hey, thank you! They did work well but my eye are getting tired and the Garmin was a little hard to read is all. It’s way more detailed though. The 500 is awesome!
Shoot, my bad, I misread that. Our radios, yes they did. Usually we couldn’t hear the first time but knew the other guy was talking. So a quick follow up is all it took. The nice thing about the BCA’s are that all the controls are on the mic. Running them on a .5 watt channel was also good enough for us most of the time.
im def no mechanic... but could tripling the air socks been the reason for your percieved decline in power?
I suppose it sure could? I’m not one either. However, I took my Rekluse off and it kicks ass again. I probably didn’t have it adjusted properly. I like the stock clutch better and a ton more power.
Thanks for all the info. We’re in the planning phases of this ride. In hindsight, how much fuel would each guy have if you did it again?
Curious if Klim is gonna fix/improve those boots. Garniers ain’t waterproof but no way they’ll separate
Are you riding the T1 for 2022?
I need to update that video a little. Yes, KILM was great and they did warranty them.
As far as fuel, what are you riding and do you know your mileage?
Most of us are riding exc 350s so prolly a little better than that 500
@@hammy7139 maybe summer 22. Prolly 23
@@sanjosejeff I would only take a 2 gallon gas bag. We both had a 1 gallon back leak on us. This being said, the 2022 route will be changing a lot so I'm not sure what the longest distances are without fuel stops. Also, if I was a betting man, the Tour of Idaho is on its last years. I know Martin wants to do other things in life and its a ton of work for him. So, if you want to give it a shot, you guys need to jump on it.
Congrats! Planning to go in 23. The question if you don't mind.. were you able to download routes and waypoints onto your onx offroad beforehand?
Absolutely but I didn’t do routes just the waypoints. Routes will disqualify you from the TOI. Honestly, the waypoints Martin has are plenty.
I then downloaded every map onto my phone that the waypoints were on so service wasn’t required.
Don’t pass up the chance to do the TOI, it’s something else for sure and hard as hell.
@@hammy7139 we are planning on a three-man team in 2023. I'm already putting all my stuff together and plan for it. I hear it's 13 days this year but will still be awesome. I'm going to have alternate navigation but I've always used onyx and was excited to see that you were able to use it so well for the toi. Thanks for the information looking forward to August of 23
@@snogimp393 yeah, I would make sure and have 3 forms. As far as the 13 days, it’s going to be epic. The new stuff added is going to be amazing. I might go ride a few days of it this year before the season starts.
@@hammy7139 we plan on doing the first four days on four different trips this year. Looking forward to it.
Why do you use WD 40 on your chain? I think it slings off easily.
I’ve found it to be very clean overall and it doesn’t coat the chain. I’m more worried about keeping the water out of it than anything which is what WD40 does best.
I’ve just found it to work great?
Golden tire. Did you mean Shinko “golden boy” 244’s?
www.goldentyrewest.com/enduro-offroad
No, it’s these tires. Amazingly good.