I admit: I messed up on this one. I should have stuck to a clear criteria. The contributions from the other RUclipsrs were great but my rankings were not. I therefore re-did it. You can watch the new version here: ruclips.net/video/4KSMHEk72ek/видео.html
I'm glad my complaints didn't fall on deaf ears. Most of your videos are quite spectacular and this one felt like a confusing and unclear hodge-podge, and I was quite annoyed with your top 3
Wise choice I thought so to A dynasty that's not even widely known as in the case of the barcids (whom I've known today) doesn't deserve to even be on the 10th slot
oh oh which is why probably why the the school unions and teachers will come after it just like main stream authoritarian sources came after alternative news sources on youtube and the like
Funny thing about the Socratic dynasty - Marcus Aurelius is part of it, being a prominent stoic and all. So ultimately, I got numbers 1 & 2. No one can escape being merely footnotes on Plato! Mwahaha
Technically, since Zero of Citium (founder of Stoicism) was a disciple of the Cynic tradition, Stoicism gets most of its Socratic influence by way of Antisthenes and Diogenes, rather than Plato. Indeed the only major Platonic school in the Hellenistic period, the Skeptics, specifically attacked the Stoics on many occassions. After Skepticism went out of fashion and Middle Platonism arrived on the scene during the Roman period, Stoicism was so dominant in Greece that the Middle Platonists adopted many of their dogmas, so the influence actually goes the opposite way. The reason that Plato and Aristotle became such dominant philosophers in later times is that their philosophy was seen as compatible with monotheism by early Christians and Muslims.
well if you accept that socratic dynasty also responsible for alexander the great then it can be argued that the dynasty also partly responsible for the dynasty number 3's success as well... why? because it was hellenistic oriented jews that guide specific christianity sect into the non jews population. Paul was a hellenistic jew who claimed to have roman citizenship, the gospels were written in greek! had it not be for hellenistic influence on the levant and jewish culture, christianity could've been a strictly minor religion and islam wouldn't have been born. socratic dynasty should've been the number 1 by a quite far margin than the rest.
One could argue that the Socratic dynasty influenced parts of the Bible, leading them also to number 3 (Justin Martyr thought quite the opposite that “Moses” influenced Plato). So I’m all for the Socratic dynasty as number 1. I would have ranked the Zadokite as number 2, then the Roman emperors as 3.
The video turned wonky when you stretched the definition of a "Dynasty" at the end. I think there's a difference between continuity by physical & ideological succession. That said, since Zadokite priesthood is hereditary, I can accept that one. The Guptas & Han were severely underrated due to western bias. The Guptas endorsed & spread the Dravidic religions (the 2nd largest religious group in the world). They are what Rome is to Asia in terms of religious influence & culture The Han did not develop in isolation. In fact, their prosperity served as a stimulus for the perpetuation of trade & cultural influence (trade with China & India literally spurred the Silk Road & Age of Exploration). They influenced philosophy (Confucian thought, meritocracy & bureaucracy). Some inventions made during their time were so basic as to be overlooked but were integral to the function of the modern world as it is (paper, paper money, compass, block print, etc).
Yeah... I mean there were several cultures and kingdoms nearby. Asia is as big as europe and africa combined.... And there were contacts between the hellenistic world and the central asian cultures. Those that are direct neighbours of ancient china. Isolation lokks different to me^^ But that is that :) Matt does awesome videos but I think he should have done this one slightly different. Several important parts of the world several important ancient dynasties were excluded and he changed his reason for including dynasties parts way into the video. Then.... "Most important dynasty of all time"... I thought this video was about the greatest of the ancient times? He should have defined what it means to be a great dynasty right at the beginning... as he did for his other videos. And then he could have had a way easier time to include or exclude cultures, schools of thinking or military dynasties. Otherwise... Why not just make seperate videos about those kind of dynasties?
@@oliverkroker527 This is how I feel as well. But again, it is really hard to define what is "great" and what is "ancient". Chinese dynasties often span for a few hundred years and more importantly the dynasties are almost exclusively kept within the same family. Since more than one Egyptian and Greek/Roman dynasties are allowed on the list. I can easily name a few other "ancient" Chinese dynasties that are just as "great" if not greater. At least in China, Tang dynasty is probably more highly regarded than Han dynasty as it is a truly open and highly prosperous society. Although Song Dynasty is weak militarily, but culturally and economically, it is probably ahead of the rest of the world for a few hundred years. Anyway, it is good to see things through different lens.
@@Cosmo_YTdoesstuff That is why I said his definition is unclear. Normally ancient in european/ american context means before the 6th. century after christ. It's a defined timeframe. A great dynasty has to be defined beforehand. The reason why there are those dynasties on the list has nothing to do with asian dynasties bein worth less then those european/ mediteranean but everything with them being nominated instead of others. Therefore I told Matt that he should have done this differently. Either having allowed more dynasties to be nominated or letting each of those historians (?) nominating a list of ten and then doing a lifestream with them to discuss the lists and make a final one.
@@oliverkroker527 I agree. Even now, Chinese history text book put the Opium War in mid-19 Century as the mark for the end of "Ancient History", which is a very different from an European perspective. And the idea of "Dynasty" is just very very different between different parts of the world. Japanese royal family has always claimed that they are the descendent of Amaterasu Omikami, which means that there is only one dynasty throughout its history. From a length point of view, it would certainly make to the top of the list. I think it might be better if the video does not have a "ranking", which necessarily imply that one is better than another. "10 great dynasties" of ancient world would still be a great video to watch.
Seems kinda crappy to to exclude the mesoamericans because of a maybe technicality and then completely ignore the traditional sense of the word Dynasty and put in some non traditional dynasties you like. I mean just don't even mention the mesoamericans rather than straight up disrespect them. I don't mind this list is based on his opinion but that seems simply unprofessional.
Wait, if the criteria for dynasty is changed, and one is allowed to insert philosophical schools and their descendents, then Confucius should deserve a spot on the list. After all, vast population of Asia and Asian cultures evolved from its teachings.
They severely underrated the East here coz their sources are mostly Eurocentric. The irony is that throughout history, majority of the population of the world has always been concentrated in South, SE & East Asia, meaning that those Southern & Eastern Asian dynasties have influenced majority of the population of the world for far longer than Europe had.
@@tobilobaokorodudu9594 I mean, sure, there were only 2 European "dynasties" on the list. But they were #1 and #2, and the Zadokites are #3 because they're among the founders of European thought. Of those, only #1 was an actual empire, and it barely stretched into Asia or Africa at all. As others have said, the Han should have been top 3. And at least one of the Middle Kingdom dynasties not far behind.
@@sgt.krakatoa1093 It's fun to debate which house was the greatest though. I'd argue for the Tudors, but there's a case for the Normans and Hanovers too.
Yeah, I think greatness and extent of influence are quite separate things, and the list becomes a lot better if these two measures were looked at separately. Even so, taking this approach I would expect the Akkadians to rank a lot higher, for reasons mentioned in the video.
100% this^^ My husband happened to see the face I was making while watching this video and asked what was wrong. I basically told him everything you just in this comment. I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
Some historians have critisized the somewhat idealized image of the "Adoptive Emperors". All of them (except the elderly Nerva) married into the families of their predecessors and there is quite some evidence that they tried to establish dynasties of their own. It just so happened that they had no sons, so they were forced to adopt one of their generals. It wasn't a meritocratic system but pure genetic accident that produced this line of Emperors. Once one of them (Marcus Aurelius) had a son (Commodus), the concept of adoption was thrown out of the window, because establishing a dynasty was the goal of virtually every roman ruler (except for Nerva, but he was very old and had no children; he was just a transitional ruler.)
Yes, I wanted to say this but you've already done it, and better. The whole thing was an accident and goes directly against the concept of a "dynasty".
Well, wouldnt that kinda qualify as meritocracy by necessity/default? If you dont have a viable blood relative to succeed you, you pick the most able dude and legitimise his ascendancy by marrying him to your daughter?
@@minnumseerrund Yes, but the point is that this wasn't their intention. They simply had no other choice - it was only plan B. The video (and many historical writings) paint them as enlightened and noble rulers, almost as legendary figures. I think this is a historiographic myth. As far as I know, there is know ecvidence for a meritocratic "system" of succession - they just were comparatively competent rulers without sons at a time when the Roman Empire was relatively stable and faced no major foreign threats. (Except for the latter part of Marcus Aurelius' reign). Don't get me wrong - Marcus Aurelius was an admirable philosopher, Trajan was an outstanding general and ruler, etc. But I think there is no good in blurring our view on them with anachronistic concepts.
@@untruelie2640 Yeeah, I got your point the first time around. Suppose your input is that they shouldnt be revered for their meritocracy because it wasnt by choice, but necessity? I suppose that's fair enough, but (as you say) doesnt detract from the dynasty's greatness - as in, their individual achievements and qualities.
3 can be somewhat excused coz they're a familial lineage at least. 2 is weird- going by ideological succession opens the discussion up to other lineages (Apostolic succession, the Caliphate & Imams, Buddhist orders, hell, even Rationalism, Communism, etc.) Plus there's the issue with Confucius who has a still-existing family to the present day that had ties to multiple royal dynasties but also an ideological school following his teachings. For 1, I think they're convinced Rome has to be No. 1 then just chose the best dynasty to represent it which is weird again coz the 5 good emperors were great in terms of prestige & accomplishments but in terms of actual "influence" to the modern day, they'll still lose to the Constantinians & Justinians
As always.. amazing. Involving others, making a forum of history channels, such a good idea I request you to please make more videos on Indian history. We in India really need more of true & detailed history.
Excellent video from a great channel... My top 5: 1- Achaemenid dynasty (Hāxāmānīš) 2- Nerva-Antonine dynasty 3- Socratic dynasty (σωκρατικός) 4- Akkadian dynasty (𐎠𐎣𐎮𐎠𐎴) 5- Han dynasty (漢)
Han dynasty in number 5 is really underrated, it should at least be top 3 consider how influential it is to east asia. the ethnicity han which is the largest in the world with 1.2 billion people is named after it.
Yeh, han dynasty is very influential at that ancient era, Han ethnicity had greater impact in lot of parts in South East Asia, It truly deserves a top3 spot.
first this is great video. i agree that the selection is subjective. when you're start talking about top 3 i knew you're gonna put roman trajan dynasty at the top and greece below. but i didn't expect you'd exclude either neo-assyrian's or neo-babylonian's. based on my understanding, they're respectively like abbasid and mongols in classical era. after the collapse of late bronze age, many empires and dynasties perished, but neo-assyria became the most prominent power alongside israel, nubia, neo-egypt, phoenicia, and elam.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 Having more subscribers doesn't mean you make better content than everyone else, no offence intended towards UsefulCharts of course.
@@Kodlaken This has nothing to do with the quality of the content. This has more to do with the fact that UsefulCharts is more well-known (if not more popular) than Jake the Genealogist, hence why he has more subscribers. This is why I want UsefulCharts to be the one making a video on Brunei's royal family tree, because more people turn up to watch a video from UsefulCharts than a video from Jake the Genealogist.
21:09 " No one conquer the Tamil kings " Even the Mauryan king ashoka says that , " the southern Tamil empire were strongest one , we capture all parts of India except this ". So who is the greatest ancient Indian Empire ?
I would like you to consider the kushan empire ,a somewhat pan-asian empire.Extending from central asia( all the stan countries) to northern india and parts of Tibet and parts of Xinjiang. Responsible for spreading Buddhism to china.Were patron of Buddhism and hinduism in general,were not tyrants.Asia wouldn't be asia if not for them.Also don't just study from the mainstream sources to get an overall view.
@@oliverkroker527 ramsses ii was in the 19th dynasty. But the likes of akhenaten, hatshepsut, thutmose iii and tutankhamen all hold great significance whether that be now or 3500 years ago
Your to hard on yourself brother-soul! I throughly liked this video and you did a amazing job getting peoples personal opinions which is why I continue to watch your videos. I can make my own opinions myself- I watch for the education not to have someone tell me how to think 🤣 Keep posting these quality videos 🙏
Slightly disappointed that the Chola Dynasty did not feature on the list. They were one of most powerful leaders in southern part of India and ruled for approximately 1500 years (perhaps longest rule of a dynasty) and spread influence as far as modern day Indonesia and entire geography in between!
You're working with Sam on a Kohanim poster?! I'M SO EXCITED!! I can't wait to see it's final form. This is something I would totally use in my Hebrew school classroom.
This is so typical of a western-influenced narrative. The Judeo-Christian and their ancient Greek and Roman ancestors are at the top of the most prominent civilisations in history; while in fact, the most influential civilisations rose in the fertile crescent (like the Babylonian and ancient Egyptian civilisations), the Idian subcontinent and ancient China. Because most of the human civilisarion turning points happened there like; writing, agriculture, laws.
there are lot of Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions found in South India and Sri lanka that dated 300 year before Ashokan brahmi . so what did you said at 21:52 is absolutely wrong !
Hello UsefulCharts, I would greatly appreciate if you could make a video on how Attila and Genghis Khan were possibly related. I am trying to find info online but it is not very documented and very vague. Thx a lot.
I have to disagree with this list as it's very dependent on the "founding father" theory and perspective. You could argue that even the ancient philosophers and priests drived their works from earlier works that came from other cultures. Which is an argument that holds up when we consider what we know. You can also argue that humans can generally always come up with the ideas so you don't need the perspective of: "only the "great man" can be so great as to think of that." Basically if they didn't think of "it" someone would have sooner or later. Think Karl Marx and communism. If he didn't write the communist manifesto someone around the same time would've wrote something with generally similar ideas. As this was the time of the rise of the middle class. because of this I don't think this list holds up.
But isn't that like saying we shouldn't give so-and-so the gold medal at the Olympics because if he or she hadn't won their event, someone else would have?
One powerful dynasty of the New World during the Medieval time could arguably be included in the list, the Incas. Military powerful, ingenuous builders and meticulous bureaucratic organizers.
This is how collabs are done!! Also, great giving a taste of their channels, but the most important thing to me is knowing who to trust. The web is full of so called historians with a covert agenda. Now I know these channels aren't one of those.
While I agree with the top three choices, I recognize that I’m also being biased… but I don’t know how I feel about mixing traditional dynasties and non-traditional ones. Anyway, great job on putting this together. Gotta love history. If only we could learn from it.
If the Socratic dynasty counts as a dynasty than it's dwarfed by the intellectual lineages of the Buddha whose teacher pupil lineage charts can stretch for well over 1000 years
For a vlog on the top 10 dynasties, it was a little strange to give the top 3 spots to non-dynastic groupings. Seems like you changed the rules midstream. (Enjoyed the presentation despite that quirk.)
I think the Egyptian 18th & 19th densities were greater than the 25th so at least one of should be higher than the 25th density but generally I liked your choices and I agree with you in most of it.
I thought for sure the Achaemenids would have taken the whole competition down for #1 then I remembered "oh, right, EGYPT" LOL. I think an honest list of the Top 100 Dynasties in History has to include all Egyptian ones at the top 10 or more. Frankly their ability to establish groundwork for stable successors is basically unmatched.
In my opinion, I feel that the Socratic dynasty was kind of a bad pick. I thought the Zadokitss were interesting, and they make sense. But I feel the socratics stretched the term too much. My other issue is that with the Roman dynasty on there, we have to remember that a lot of their success was built directly on that of its predecessors. In the case of the Mauryans or Achaemenids, what they did for their glory as a dynasty in my opinion was far more impressive. I feel that the Nerva-Antonine dynasty should be moved to Number 6-5, the Zadokites to number 2, Achaemenids to 1, the Hans to 3, and the mauryans above the Nerva Antonines.
Without Mauryan Indians will be also be like birbarian type civilization i believe bc of them we become more civilized Nd polite but weak also 🥴 When Samrat Ashoka choose boodha teachings (honestly it's not an religion 🤣🔨 even Hinduism is not an religion ) religion is just a govt. Kings tool too control Big group of peoples easily 😁 Culture your ancestors experience teachings story's which teach u something good That's gold 😋❤️ Nd I'm talking always take positive thing's from history not negative
21:48 You should know the Mauryans they didn't unite the sub-continent the Tamil Kingdoms to the South were never conquered, they were attacked but each time they were repelled and Maurya even wrote an edict about the un-conquerable Tamil Kingdoms to the South.
Tamils are very lucky. Ashoka was shocked seeing the death of the millions of people during his last conquest of Kalinga kingdom, which is another North Indian kingdom. Hearing the results of the Kalinga conquest all the other Indian kings surrendered to the emperor Ashoka. Also he found it is very difficult to manage a large empire with several different cultures. So he let the remaining kings rule their kingdoms. Those kings paid their tribute to the emperor Ashoka. So Ashoka stopped training military and Created an innocent ruling principle called Ashoka Dhamma which was influenced by Buddhism. He sent his delegate to the other powerful kingdoms of the world from Greek to South East Asia. He also sent his message to those countries as well. Since he didn’t give any military training to his children the Mawurya empire fallen within 100 years after Ashoka. Some of Ashoka’s children became monks even.
@@shishyathwa Historians don't hear your cooked up stories ! 🤡.... Ashoka and his ancestors , everyone lost to "three crowned kings "chera chola Pandya " .... Truth already revealed by , Bill wurtz : history of all Cogito : who are the Tamil people ?
Knowing that this is subjective, I still question Rome, Carthage, and Nubian being in the list. I also wanted to mention Greece didn't deserve the spot, but if the reason is purely philosophical impact, then it has merits to stay. But Rome's position being 1st is very questionable because they were by far not the first to pass on leadership through merit, and Nerva-Antonine's political/military achievements were modest at best. Marcus Aurelius's stoicism is respectable, but that's it. Stoicism alone can't be justified to stay on the first spot, let alone this list. The only reason Rome had such a big impact on the world is because its descendants practiced colonialism and imperialism to spread their dominance. Their dominance does not justify the supposedly legacy of Rome's excellency. Because there is no excellency other than military might. Using the same reasoning, Carthage does not deserve the spot purely because "it was a great threat to Rome." Non Western / Middle Eastern civilizations are heavily underrepresented. East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, even the indigenous Americas, etc
Hi can you do a video on the house of oldenburg and the different branches that desended from it please as I love how you all ways explains what the background and their stories and I love the lines for there marriage and children. So thank for putting your time into every video I enjoy every single one and if you can, can you please leave a free link so I can see the poster down below as my parents don't let me buy the posters.
It's not about liking. Cholas and Guptas were more influential, than Mauryans. Gupta's literally gave number system, zero, chess, bought advancement in the Civilization. It didn't just impacted the indian subcontinent but the whole world. Guptas easily from India. The Golden Age of India was under Guptas.
According to the ancient Indian understanding; without recognising the two greatest Itihasas Ramayana and Mahabharata which narrate the two dynasties the Surya Vamsa and Chandra vamsa any Indian can consider your explanation
I was honestly expecting to see at least one dynasty from the diadochi in here, but can't imagine which one of the ten I'd remove to replace with them.
2 & 3 break the rule of dynasties. Roman & Achaemenid shouldve been 1 & 2 with either arguably on top with good reason but then again this was a very subjective list and the opinions of the the awesome authors should be respected. I take this all as further food for thought thank you for assembling such a great video
@@princejangra1231 Contact with Persia and Rome by the Silk Road trade is one international effect. Another effect is the Han Dynasty defeating the Xiongnu, forcing some of them to migrate west and become the Huns that invaded Europe.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 lmao So Mauryas gave birth to most of current south and south east Asian countries coz they held and spreaded Buddhism Also before the time the Indians had trade with west before China was even a thing Even Cholas had greater stuff written about them Had huge influence in SEA And the india was pretty much devided again for whole of history of the time.
I would have chosen another title for this video. Because i think, that you ranked These ancient dinasties by their influence on the world Not by their greatness. My definition of the greatest dinasty, would be the Most famous, not the Most influencal dinasty.
Which time period in history do you consider the carolingians to be a part of because they didn't feature in this video or the the top ten European dynasties despite being one of the most influential houses ever?
Medieval. They didn't make it into the European top 10 though because that video took length of rule as a major criteria and the Carolingians didn't last long.
Oh Matt this is good work. Ranking ancient dynasties is kind of hard. However I wish u would have stuck to the criteria u normally use because honestly some 'dynasties' don't even deserve to make it on this list and tbh I only agree with 2. Also why veer out of topic. I thought ur ranking royal dynasties only. What the hell is the zadokite dynasty Socratic dynasty and Barcid dynasty! Please stick to the criteria in the next version. It would be better if u deleted this one. I also expected to see some dynasties from the Egyptian new kingdom as well as the Macedonians. In very disappointed with this rankings esp since great pple like Thutmose III Ramsees II Alexander III and of course Cleopatra VII whose dynasties were not even considered.
this list is kind of.... ridiculous. a lot of these are correct, but 'Socratic' dynasty? To consider a teacher-student lineage a dynasty pushes the concept of 'dynasty' past what any given person would understand it as. And then you have the Han at 5 which is incredibly low. This dynasty is top 3, at the very least. And then to not even INCLUDE the 18th dynasty of Egypt or the Macedonian dynasty?.... but what they hell do I know, that's just my opinion. I still thought it was a fun video ;)
Chandragupta not only defeated nanda King but he also defeated selecus , annexed today's Afghanistan and Pakistan and married selecus daughter, but in india Chanakya is considered above Chandragupta, because the main man behind Mauryan empire was chanakya, who was political professor in taxishila university
@@UsefulCharts Yeah I agree. I think that those 4 would be a lot better than the akkadian, barcid, nubian, and egyptian fourth dynasties. Thanks for making this great subjective video. It sparks interesting discussions like these.
I admit: I messed up on this one. I should have stuck to a clear criteria. The contributions from the other RUclipsrs were great but my rankings were not. I therefore re-did it. You can watch the new version here: ruclips.net/video/4KSMHEk72ek/видео.html
I'm glad my complaints didn't fall on deaf ears. Most of your videos are quite spectacular and this one felt like a confusing and unclear hodge-podge, and I was quite annoyed with your top 3
Wise choice I thought so to
A dynasty that's not even widely known as in the case of the barcids (whom I've known today) doesn't deserve to even be on the 10th slot
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If you ask for dynasties and your friends hand in entries that are NOT dynasties, they need to be disqualified.
No one on the internet supports each other like History and education channels, it’s really great to see
Yes, it is!
Hats off to the people who part of the video
oh oh which is why probably why the the school unions and teachers will come after it just like main stream authoritarian sources came after alternative news sources on youtube and the like
@@ibtisamilahi2304 Thanks!
They probably also argue most with eachother.
Great to be a part of this vid! Love these type of collabs, only Matt could organise this!
It's always nice being part of something with so many other great channels!
As a hannibal simp, my respect to you just went higher
@@asmrnaturecat984 Haha Hannibal was the man!
Funny thing about the Socratic dynasty - Marcus Aurelius is part of it, being a prominent stoic and all. So ultimately, I got numbers 1 & 2. No one can escape being merely footnotes on Plato! Mwahaha
Technically, since Zero of Citium (founder of Stoicism) was a disciple of the Cynic tradition, Stoicism gets most of its Socratic influence by way of Antisthenes and Diogenes, rather than Plato. Indeed the only major Platonic school in the Hellenistic period, the Skeptics, specifically attacked the Stoics on many occassions.
After Skepticism went out of fashion and Middle Platonism arrived on the scene during the Roman period, Stoicism was so dominant in Greece that the Middle Platonists adopted many of their dogmas, so the influence actually goes the opposite way.
The reason that Plato and Aristotle became such dominant philosophers in later times is that their philosophy was seen as compatible with monotheism by early Christians and Muslims.
Plato is a myth there's no evidence of his existence
well if you accept that socratic dynasty also responsible for alexander the great then it can be argued that the dynasty also partly responsible for the dynasty number 3's success as well... why? because it was hellenistic oriented jews that guide specific christianity sect into the non jews population. Paul was a hellenistic jew who claimed to have roman citizenship, the gospels were written in greek!
had it not be for hellenistic influence on the levant and jewish culture, christianity could've been a strictly minor religion and islam wouldn't have been born.
socratic dynasty should've been the number 1 by a quite far margin than the rest.
@@brianmay3852 Would that be a joke?
One could argue that the Socratic dynasty influenced parts of the Bible, leading them also to number 3 (Justin Martyr thought quite the opposite that “Moses” influenced Plato). So I’m all for the Socratic dynasty as number 1. I would have ranked the Zadokite as number 2, then the Roman emperors as 3.
It feels like they're your highschool student making a video presentation on history while you're grading them. 😂. Superb video as usual! ❤️
The video turned wonky when you stretched the definition of a "Dynasty" at the end. I think there's a difference between continuity by physical & ideological succession. That said, since Zadokite priesthood is hereditary, I can accept that one.
The Guptas & Han were severely underrated due to western bias. The Guptas endorsed & spread the Dravidic religions (the 2nd largest religious group in the world). They are what Rome is to Asia in terms of religious influence & culture
The Han did not develop in isolation. In fact, their prosperity served as a stimulus for the perpetuation of trade & cultural influence (trade with China & India literally spurred the Silk Road & Age of Exploration). They influenced philosophy (Confucian thought, meritocracy & bureaucracy). Some inventions made during their time were so basic as to be overlooked but were integral to the function of the modern world as it is (paper, paper money, compass, block print, etc).
Yeah... I mean there were several cultures and kingdoms nearby. Asia is as big as europe and africa combined.... And there were contacts between the hellenistic world and the central asian cultures. Those that are direct neighbours of ancient china.
Isolation lokks different to me^^
But that is that :)
Matt does awesome videos but I think he should have done this one slightly different.
Several important parts of the world several important ancient dynasties were excluded and he changed his reason for including dynasties parts way into the video.
Then.... "Most important dynasty of all time"... I thought this video was about the greatest of the ancient times?
He should have defined what it means to be a great dynasty right at the beginning... as he did for his other videos.
And then he could have had a way easier time to include or exclude cultures, schools of thinking or military dynasties.
Otherwise... Why not just make seperate videos about those kind of dynasties?
@@oliverkroker527 This is how I feel as well. But again, it is really hard to define what is "great" and what is "ancient". Chinese dynasties often span for a few hundred years and more importantly the dynasties are almost exclusively kept within the same family. Since more than one Egyptian and Greek/Roman dynasties are allowed on the list. I can easily name a few other "ancient" Chinese dynasties that are just as "great" if not greater. At least in China, Tang dynasty is probably more highly regarded than Han dynasty as it is a truly open and highly prosperous society. Although Song Dynasty is weak militarily, but culturally and economically, it is probably ahead of the rest of the world for a few hundred years. Anyway, it is good to see things through different lens.
@@Cosmo_YTdoesstuff That is why I said his definition is unclear. Normally ancient in european/ american context means before the 6th. century after christ. It's a defined timeframe.
A great dynasty has to be defined beforehand.
The reason why there are those dynasties on the list has nothing to do with asian dynasties bein worth less then those european/ mediteranean but everything with them being nominated instead of others. Therefore I told Matt that he should have done this differently.
Either having allowed more dynasties to be nominated or letting each of those historians (?) nominating a list of ten and then doing a lifestream with them to discuss the lists and make a final one.
@@oliverkroker527 I agree. Even now, Chinese history text book put the Opium War in mid-19 Century as the mark for the end of "Ancient History", which is a very different from an European perspective. And the idea of "Dynasty" is just very very different between different parts of the world. Japanese royal family has always claimed that they are the descendent of Amaterasu Omikami, which means that there is only one dynasty throughout its history. From a length point of view, it would certainly make to the top of the list. I think it might be better if the video does not have a "ranking", which necessarily imply that one is better than another. "10 great dynasties" of ancient world would still be a great video to watch.
yep the Han's weren't isolated, they traded with India, hence why there was chinese visitors to India. After all Buddhism had spread the other way
Matt:
im not including anyone from america because they weren't actually emperors
Also matt:
* number 2 and 3
Haha. True. I guess if the Mayans had written a book that's still the #1 best seller today, I would have made an exception for them too.
Seems kinda crappy to to exclude the mesoamericans because of a maybe technicality and then completely ignore the traditional sense of the word Dynasty and put in some non traditional dynasties you like. I mean just don't even mention the mesoamericans rather than straight up disrespect them. I don't mind this list is based on his opinion but that seems simply unprofessional.
because they werent emperors...
Me: Looking at you, HANNIBAL!
@@Ayastie Go make your own list.
@@UsefulCharts A lot of best sellers were written about the Maya (their calendar anyway). Does that count?
Everyone knows that Michael Jordan's 90's Bulls Dynasty was the greatest of all time.
The ghost of John Wooden has entered the chat.
aha... but as we were talking about greatest of ancient times and not all times this post is not relevant :D
@@oliverkroker527 Dude...its a joke
West Indies cricket team dominated test cricket and one day cricket from 1974 to 1991.
@@innitbruv-lascocomics9910 Therefore my laughing smile dude.... 'cause I know you made a joke...
I can't say I agree with the decision to include non-dynasties on the list. But I guess it would have been rude of Matt to disqualify them.
Yeah we're being real loose with the definition of, "Dynasty" here. But what is history if not redefining things to fit your evidence?
@@Kavanaugh_Kohls maybe History is the friends we made along the way.
@@Kavanaugh_Kohls
But all I see is the Sith Order meme on the Cynic Dynasty.
Wait, if the criteria for dynasty is changed, and one is allowed to insert philosophical schools and their descendents, then Confucius should deserve a spot on the list. After all, vast population of Asia and Asian cultures evolved from its teachings.
yeah... but nobody nominated him^^ Otherwise his dynasty wold have the number one spot as his blood descendents still live on.
Yeah, even as i know Confucius' descendant had an office in Taiwan (ROC) (need to confirm)
They severely underrated the East here coz their sources are mostly Eurocentric. The irony is that throughout history, majority of the population of the world has always been concentrated in South, SE & East Asia, meaning that those Southern & Eastern Asian dynasties have influenced majority of the population of the world for far longer than Europe had.
@@fkloveit :D This one is not aloone in the world.... his line is several hundred thousand strong.
That's true.
So glad this turned out so well
Me too! :)
Very eurocentric. And the first thing he should have done, was make criteria to what he defines as "greatest"
@@SkepticalChris how is it eurocentric ?
@@tobilobaokorodudu9594 I mean, sure, there were only 2 European "dynasties" on the list. But they were #1 and #2, and the Zadokites are #3 because they're among the founders of European thought. Of those, only #1 was an actual empire, and it barely stretched into Asia or Africa at all.
As others have said, the Han should have been top 3. And at least one of the Middle Kingdom dynasties not far behind.
Sargon of Akkad shoud be first🥇 he is the father of all empires after him 💥
Thank you for including me in this video! To anyone else, which dynasty would you pick as the greatest of all time?
Hello
@@user-ew5vj1sl1u Hello!
I would say the British Monarchy, but I guess thats not really a fair answer since they're technically a bunch of dynasties with a common ancestor.
out of those shown in the video definetly the sokratics and the zadocites but if we're going to talk about a real dynasty definetly the achmedians
@@sgt.krakatoa1093 It's fun to debate which house was the greatest though. I'd argue for the Tudors, but there's a case for the Normans and Hanovers too.
You completely overlooked the fact that the Han Dynasty invented both paper and compasses
Came here for Dr Zar of History and Headlines and loved all the contributions from these great commentators.
Yeah, I think greatness and extent of influence are quite separate things, and the list becomes a lot better if these two measures were looked at separately. Even so, taking this approach I would expect the Akkadians to rank a lot higher, for reasons mentioned in the video.
That confused me too, the clip he used did a lot better job explaining the Akkadians' impact than the Five Good Emperors guy's explanation
100% this^^
My husband happened to see the face I was making while watching this video and asked what was wrong. I basically told him everything you just in this comment. I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking this.
Sargon of Akkad shoud be first🥇 he is the father of all empires after him 💥
Some historians have critisized the somewhat idealized image of the "Adoptive Emperors". All of them (except the elderly Nerva) married into the families of their predecessors and there is quite some evidence that they tried to establish dynasties of their own. It just so happened that they had no sons, so they were forced to adopt one of their generals. It wasn't a meritocratic system but pure genetic accident that produced this line of Emperors. Once one of them (Marcus Aurelius) had a son (Commodus), the concept of adoption was thrown out of the window, because establishing a dynasty was the goal of virtually every roman ruler (except for Nerva, but he was very old and had no children; he was just a transitional ruler.)
Yes, I wanted to say this but you've already done it, and better. The whole thing was an accident and goes directly against the concept of a "dynasty".
Well, wouldnt that kinda qualify as meritocracy by necessity/default? If you dont have a viable blood relative to succeed you, you pick the most able dude and legitimise his ascendancy by marrying him to your daughter?
@@minnumseerrund Yes, but the point is that this wasn't their intention. They simply had no other choice - it was only plan B. The video (and many historical writings) paint them as enlightened and noble rulers, almost as legendary figures. I think this is a historiographic myth. As far as I know, there is know ecvidence for a meritocratic "system" of succession - they just were comparatively competent rulers without sons at a time when the Roman Empire was relatively stable and faced no major foreign threats. (Except for the latter part of Marcus Aurelius' reign). Don't get me wrong - Marcus Aurelius was an admirable philosopher, Trajan was an outstanding general and ruler, etc. But I think there is no good in blurring our view on them with anachronistic concepts.
@@untruelie2640 Yeeah, I got your point the first time around. Suppose your input is that they shouldnt be revered for their meritocracy because it wasnt by choice, but necessity? I suppose that's fair enough, but (as you say) doesnt detract from the dynasty's greatness - as in, their individual achievements and qualities.
@@minnumseerrund They also had their shortcomings though, especially Hadrian.
who else think that it goes unexpectedly weird with the 3rd place and then from there,
it gets even exponentially much worse afterwards
I understand the 3 and 2 are odd choices but number 1 is in my view legitimate
@@galanthuman2157 Definitely agree with the number 1 choice. ;)
3 can be somewhat excused coz they're a familial lineage at least.
2 is weird- going by ideological succession opens the discussion up to other lineages (Apostolic succession, the Caliphate & Imams, Buddhist orders, hell, even Rationalism, Communism, etc.) Plus there's the issue with Confucius who has a still-existing family to the present day that had ties to multiple royal dynasties but also an ideological school following his teachings.
For 1, I think they're convinced Rome has to be No. 1 then just chose the best dynasty to represent it which is weird again coz the 5 good emperors were great in terms of prestige & accomplishments but in terms of actual "influence" to the modern day, they'll still lose to the Constantinians & Justinians
N1 makes absolute sense. It was to be expected.
A Roman dinasty
"We are born princes and the civilizing process makes us frogs"
- Eric Berne
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As always.. amazing. Involving others, making a forum of history channels, such a good idea
I request you to please make more videos on Indian history. We in India really need more of true & detailed history.
I JUST binged those dynasty videos yesterday, then you post this. Thanks for catering to my dynastic needs!
Just got your world history book, it's amazing hope u make more in future
I was waiting for this video for ages!
Excellent video from a great channel...
My top 5:
1- Achaemenid dynasty (Hāxāmānīš)
2- Nerva-Antonine dynasty
3- Socratic dynasty (σωκρατικός)
4- Akkadian dynasty (𐎠𐎣𐎮𐎠𐎴)
5- Han dynasty (漢)
My top 4
4 Ming Dynasty
3 Ptolemaic Dynasty
2 Mughal Dynasty
1 Julio-Claudia Dynasty
1. Maurya empire 50% of world gdp
2. Acheamenid 40%
3. Han 30%
4. Roman 8%
Best ancient kindoms
1. Kuru
2. Gandhara
3. Magadha
4. Kosala
5. Kamboja
These are the democratic republic kingdoms with great developed cities
@@ChibiProwl thse aren't ancient
@@blueworld9706 "Democratic Republic Kingdoms" is an Oxymoron.
It's kinda funny to specify a limitation on the time period then say "of all time"
I love that you do so many collabs! Found some of my fave RUclipsrs thanks to you!
I have also learned of many other great channels via these collabs!
Han dynasty in number 5 is really underrated, it should at least be top 3 consider how influential it is to east asia. the ethnicity han which is the largest in the world with 1.2 billion people is named after it.
Yeh, han dynasty is very influential at that ancient era, Han ethnicity had greater impact in lot of parts in South East Asia, It truly deserves a top3 spot.
The Tang Dynasty should also be in the list because it brought another golden age in China.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 nah
Han is best and others are too good for their time
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 just my opinion
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 If I don't remember wrong Tang are from medieval era.
first this is great video. i agree that the selection is subjective.
when you're start talking about top 3 i knew you're gonna put roman trajan dynasty at the top and greece below. but i didn't expect you'd exclude either neo-assyrian's or neo-babylonian's. based on my understanding, they're respectively like abbasid and mongols in classical era. after the collapse of late bronze age, many empires and dynasties perished, but neo-assyria became the most prominent power alongside israel, nubia, neo-egypt, phoenicia, and elam.
Your channel is amazing
UsefulCharts, please let me know when you're gonna release a video on Brunei's royal family tree. Thank you very much.
Not sure that I will. Maybe Jake the Genealogist will?
@@UsefulCharts It would be great if you were the one who made a video on this topic, since you have way more subscribers than Jake the Genealogist.
@@ekmalsukarno2302 Having more subscribers doesn't mean you make better content than everyone else, no offence intended towards UsefulCharts of course.
@@Kodlaken Very true. In this case, I think Jake would do a better job because he's really good at bringing attention to lesser known monarchies.
@@Kodlaken This has nothing to do with the quality of the content. This has more to do with the fact that UsefulCharts is more well-known (if not more popular) than Jake the Genealogist, hence why he has more subscribers.
This is why I want UsefulCharts to be the one making a video on Brunei's royal family tree, because more people turn up to watch a video from UsefulCharts than a video from Jake the Genealogist.
I like how you collab with others.
This is the crossover episode that we didn't know we needed!
21:09
" No one conquer the Tamil kings "
Even the Mauryan king ashoka says that , " the southern Tamil empire were strongest one , we capture all parts of India except this ".
So who is the greatest ancient Indian Empire ?
In which Inscription does he say that? Also it's about influence which Mauryans had more.
A British company did. Later they handed over it to the North Indian Aaryans who rules Tamil kingdom to date.
dude, Mauryans clearly had a greater impact on India, mea
@@knowledgedesk1653 check Ashoks edicts ,
@Mathews Prakashok 🤡
Diogenes plucking a chicken and throwing it at Plato.
We really need a movie of the daily life of Diogenes lol
I've been a fan of this channel for a long time now but something about "ranking" these dynasties just doesn't sit well with me.
And for the winner of the greatest collaborative youtuber dynasty, we have Useful Charts and the 10 Knowledgable ones.
You should do the family tree of William Howe (leading British general during American Rev. War) because he connects to the current British Royals.
The best part about this video is the tease of making separate videos of each of the listings. Great video!
Love it! Great video and thank you to all the contributed.
I’m disappointed that this video doesn’t have more views. It’s an excellent compilation and condensation.
Excellent video. Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video. This video is a must see video for everyone.
Hey Robert, if you like history please consider checking out my timeline of the 150+ most important people in history :)
I would like you to consider the kushan empire ,a somewhat pan-asian empire.Extending from central asia( all the stan countries) to northern india and parts of Tibet and parts of Xinjiang. Responsible for spreading Buddhism to china.Were patron of Buddhism and hinduism in general,were not tyrants.Asia wouldn't be asia if not for them.Also don't just study from the mainstream sources to get an overall view.
Enjoyed this very much. Thanks!
আমার কাছে মৌর্য বংশই সেরার সেরা।
It means - 'For me the Mauran dynasty is the greatest of all', in bengali.
Take love from India 🇮🇳❤
I think 18th dynasty of ancient Egypt must be included here !
Definitely! 18th dynasty definitely belongs on this lost, probably even top 3 imo
Because of Ramses II.?
@@oliverkroker527 ramsses ii was in the 19th dynasty. But the likes of akhenaten, hatshepsut, thutmose iii and tutankhamen all hold great significance whether that be now or 3500 years ago
@@rc_jdog Ah... that dynasty.... Yes I completely agree with your reasoning^^
I love the format for this video!
Your to hard on yourself brother-soul! I throughly liked this video and you did a amazing job getting peoples personal opinions which is why I continue to watch your videos. I can make my own opinions myself- I watch for the education not to have someone tell me how to think 🤣 Keep posting these quality videos 🙏
Cool video 😎
excellent job in putting this collaboration together, have another 10 creators to visit now.
Slightly disappointed that the Chola Dynasty did not feature on the list. They were one of most powerful leaders in southern part of India and ruled for approximately 1500 years (perhaps longest rule of a dynasty) and spread influence as far as modern day Indonesia and entire geography in between!
Chola have mention on Greatest Asian Dynasties. Furhermore Chola at Medievel Era.
I think you mistakenly mixed up the number 3 and 1 spots. No matter, it can happen to anyone.
Facts nobody influence the world more than the Zadokite Dynasty
You're working with Sam on a Kohanim poster?! I'M SO EXCITED!! I can't wait to see it's final form. This is something I would totally use in my Hebrew school classroom.
thanks for introducing us to some great underrated history channels
I love these videos about dynasties, please keep them up!
More videos like this. Great format
This is so typical of a western-influenced narrative. The Judeo-Christian and their ancient Greek and Roman ancestors are at the top of the most prominent civilisations in history; while in fact, the most influential civilisations rose in the fertile crescent (like the Babylonian and ancient Egyptian civilisations), the Idian subcontinent and ancient China. Because most of the human civilisarion turning points happened there like; writing, agriculture, laws.
Any chance you can cover the kings of the Ostrogoth such as King Theodoric I The Great or even the kings of burgundy sometime?
there are lot of Tamil-Brahmi inscriptions found in South India and Sri lanka that dated 300 year before Ashokan brahmi . so what did you said at 21:52 is absolutely wrong !
It is a colossal stretch that entries 2-3 are included as "dynasties" and also ranked at the top. It's all subjective of course, but come on now...
Gotta say I'm shocked the Julio-Claudian Dynasty didn't get in nevermind being top spot! But great list.
Hello UsefulCharts, I would greatly appreciate if you could make a video on how Attila and Genghis Khan were possibly related. I am trying to find info online but it is not very documented and very vague. Thx a lot.
I have to disagree with this list as it's very dependent on the "founding father" theory and perspective. You could argue that even the ancient philosophers and priests drived their works from earlier works that came from other cultures. Which is an argument that holds up when we consider what we know. You can also argue that humans can generally always come up with the ideas so you don't need the perspective of: "only the "great man" can be so great as to think of that." Basically if they didn't think of "it" someone would have sooner or later. Think Karl Marx and communism. If he didn't write the communist manifesto someone around the same time would've wrote something with generally similar ideas. As this was the time of the rise of the middle class.
because of this I don't think this list holds up.
But isn't that like saying we shouldn't give so-and-so the gold medal at the Olympics because if he or she hadn't won their event, someone else would have?
@@UsefulCharts you're not wrong. and the video is still great with an enjoyable discussion and commentary.
That sounds like word salad, throw in some poor grammar!
One powerful dynasty of the New World during the Medieval time could arguably be included in the list, the Incas. Military powerful, ingenuous builders and meticulous bureaucratic organizers.
This is how collabs are done!! Also, great giving a taste of their channels, but the most important thing to me is knowing who to trust. The web is full of so called historians with a covert agenda. Now I know these channels aren't one of those.
Yes, these collabs do a great job introducing me to other channels!
Top three dynasties: one of the faith, one of the mind, and one of the law.
While I agree with the top three choices, I recognize that I’m also being biased… but I don’t know how I feel about mixing traditional dynasties and non-traditional ones.
Anyway, great job on putting this together. Gotta love history. If only we could learn from it.
If the Socratic dynasty counts as a dynasty than it's dwarfed by the intellectual lineages of the Buddha whose teacher pupil lineage charts can stretch for well over 1000 years
Could you do who would be the heir to the welsh throne today
SECONDED SO HARD!!!
For a vlog on the top 10 dynasties, it was a little strange to give the top 3 spots to non-dynastic groupings. Seems like you changed the rules midstream. (Enjoyed the presentation despite that quirk.)
awesome. well done this is a great video
When will you make the family tree of the Incas?
Great choice Raven
Would love to see a poster of philosophers from different movements and periods in history,
Hi
Please do make a video on indian modern history
Would be really helpful
Love your content
Why didn’t you include the 18th dynasty from Egypt they are by far the greatest Egyptian ancient dynasty and they include a lot of famous pharaohs
I think the Egyptian 18th & 19th densities were greater than the 25th so at least one of should be higher than the 25th density but generally I liked your choices and I agree with you in most of it.
As someone who is a descendant of the Barcid dynasty it’s nice to see your ancestors there
Fantastic video
Great video well done! Just a bit sad to not seeing Argead Dynasty
I thought for sure the Achaemenids would have taken the whole competition down for #1 then I remembered "oh, right, EGYPT" LOL.
I think an honest list of the Top 100 Dynasties in History has to include all Egyptian ones at the top 10 or more. Frankly their ability to establish groundwork for stable successors is basically unmatched.
True…..🤔
In my opinion, I feel that the Socratic dynasty was kind of a bad pick. I thought the Zadokitss were interesting, and they make sense. But I feel the socratics stretched the term too much.
My other issue is that with the Roman dynasty on there, we have to remember that a lot of their success was built directly on that of its predecessors. In the case of the Mauryans or Achaemenids, what they did for their glory as a dynasty in my opinion was far more impressive.
I feel that the Nerva-Antonine dynasty should be moved to Number 6-5, the Zadokites to number 2, Achaemenids to 1, the Hans to 3, and the mauryans above the Nerva Antonines.
Without Mauryan Indians will be also be like birbarian type civilization i believe bc of them we become more civilized Nd polite but weak also 🥴
When Samrat Ashoka choose boodha teachings (honestly it's not an religion 🤣🔨 even Hinduism is not an religion ) religion is just a govt. Kings tool too control
Big group of peoples easily 😁
Culture your ancestors experience teachings story's which teach u something good
That's gold 😋❤️
Nd I'm talking always take positive thing's from history not negative
21:48 You should know the Mauryans they didn't unite the sub-continent the Tamil Kingdoms to the South were never conquered, they were attacked but each time they were repelled and Maurya even wrote an edict about the un-conquerable Tamil Kingdoms to the South.
Tamils are very lucky. Ashoka was shocked seeing the death of the millions of people during his last conquest of Kalinga kingdom, which is another North Indian kingdom. Hearing the results of the Kalinga conquest all the other Indian kings surrendered to the emperor Ashoka. Also he found it is very difficult to manage a large empire with several different cultures. So he let the remaining kings rule their kingdoms. Those kings paid their tribute to the emperor Ashoka. So Ashoka stopped training military and Created an innocent ruling principle called Ashoka Dhamma which was influenced by Buddhism. He sent his delegate to the other powerful kingdoms of the world from Greek to South East Asia. He also sent his message to those countries as well. Since he didn’t give any military training to his children the Mawurya empire fallen within 100 years after Ashoka. Some of Ashoka’s children became monks even.
@@shishyathwa
Historians don't hear your cooked up stories ! 🤡....
Ashoka and his ancestors , everyone lost to "three crowned kings "chera chola Pandya " ....
Truth already revealed by ,
Bill wurtz : history of all
Cogito : who are the Tamil people ?
@@shishyathwa even your ashoka mention that he cant defeat tamil kings but you cant accept the truth
@@kykedits9751 where?source?
In his pillers
Knowing that this is subjective, I still question Rome, Carthage, and Nubian being in the list. I also wanted to mention Greece didn't deserve the spot, but if the reason is purely philosophical impact, then it has merits to stay. But Rome's position being 1st is very questionable because they were by far not the first to pass on leadership through merit, and Nerva-Antonine's political/military achievements were modest at best.
Marcus Aurelius's stoicism is respectable, but that's it. Stoicism alone can't be justified to stay on the first spot, let alone this list. The only reason Rome had such a big impact on the world is because its descendants practiced colonialism and imperialism to spread their dominance. Their dominance does not justify the supposedly legacy of Rome's excellency. Because there is no excellency other than military might. Using the same reasoning, Carthage does not deserve the spot purely because "it was a great threat to Rome."
Non Western / Middle Eastern civilizations are heavily underrepresented. East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, even the indigenous Americas, etc
I completely agree with you. When objective criteria are used in version 2.0, other civilizations are much better represented.
30:58 the man, the myth, the Legend.
Nice!
Fantastic!
Hi can you do a video on the house of oldenburg and the different branches that desended from it please as I love how you all ways explains what the background and their stories and I love the lines for there marriage and children. So thank for putting your time into every video I enjoy every single one and if you can, can you please leave a free link so I can see the poster down below as my parents don't let me buy the posters.
I like Cholas and Guptas more than Mauryas
Not gona lie
For me Han and some other are a bit higher
Would love to see a long history unfolded one day
It's not about liking. Cholas and Guptas were more influential, than Mauryans. Gupta's literally gave number system, zero, chess, bought advancement in the Civilization. It didn't just impacted the indian subcontinent but the whole world. Guptas easily from India. The Golden Age of India was under Guptas.
According to the ancient Indian understanding; without recognising the two greatest Itihasas Ramayana and Mahabharata which narrate the two dynasties the Surya Vamsa and Chandra vamsa any Indian can consider your explanation
As soon as I saw @historywithcy I knew this was going to be a great video!!!
I was honestly expecting to see at least one dynasty from the diadochi in here, but can't imagine which one of the ten I'd remove to replace with them.
The did dirty to my boy Ptolemy.
2 & 3 break the rule of dynasties.
Roman & Achaemenid shouldve been 1 & 2 with either arguably on top with good reason
but then again this was a very subjective list and the opinions of the the awesome authors should be respected.
I take this all as further food for thought
thank you for assembling such a great video
Han dynasty should be at least equal to the Romans.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 They were good but did not have such a great international affect
@@princejangra1231 Contact with Persia and Rome by the Silk Road trade is one international effect. Another effect is the Han Dynasty defeating the Xiongnu, forcing some of them to migrate west and become the Huns that invaded Europe.
@@nobblkpraetorian5623 lmao
So Mauryas gave birth to most of current south and south east Asian countries coz they held and spreaded Buddhism
Also before the time the Indians had trade with west before China was even a thing
Even Cholas had greater stuff written about them
Had huge influence in SEA
And the india was pretty much devided again for whole of history of the time.
Do you have a Playlist entitled Religious Studies? Somehow i got in my files Religious Studies but i cannot find this your present Playlist. Tks.
I would have chosen another title for this video. Because i think, that you ranked These ancient dinasties by their influence on the world Not by their greatness.
My definition of the greatest dinasty, would be the Most famous, not the Most influencal dinasty.
that doesn't make sense tho. influence is what makes dynasty famous, because fame has to come from somewhere.
In an update, if you change it from just kingly rulers to also priests and philosophers also, you end up with over 10.
Yep. Joshua’s family tree comes to mind.
Which time period in history do you consider the carolingians to be a part of because they didn't feature in this video or the the top ten European dynasties despite being one of the most influential houses ever?
Medieval. They didn't make it into the European top 10 though because that video took length of rule as a major criteria and the Carolingians didn't last long.
@@UsefulCharts Oh ok. I re-watched that video and was just wondering. Thanks
I haven't watched the rest yet but I admit I was expecting the Han to be at least 2 or 3
Same
Oh Matt this is good work. Ranking ancient dynasties is kind of hard. However I wish u would have stuck to the criteria u normally use because honestly some 'dynasties' don't even deserve to make it on this list and tbh I only agree with 2. Also why veer out of topic. I thought ur ranking royal dynasties only. What the hell is the zadokite dynasty Socratic dynasty and Barcid dynasty! Please stick to the criteria in the next version. It would be better if u deleted this one. I also expected to see some dynasties from the Egyptian new kingdom as well as the Macedonians. In very disappointed with this rankings esp since great pple like Thutmose III Ramsees II Alexander III and of course Cleopatra VII whose dynasties were not even considered.
New version dropping in one hour.
this list is kind of.... ridiculous. a lot of these are correct, but 'Socratic' dynasty? To consider a teacher-student lineage a dynasty pushes the concept of 'dynasty' past what any given person would understand it as. And then you have the Han at 5 which is incredibly low. This dynasty is top 3, at the very least. And then to not even INCLUDE the 18th dynasty of Egypt or the Macedonian dynasty?.... but what they hell do I know, that's just my opinion. I still thought it was a fun video ;)
This was fun! I just discovered new channels as a bonus! Thank you all!
I love these collaborations as they also introduce me to new channels.
Chandragupta not only defeated nanda King but he also defeated selecus , annexed today's Afghanistan and Pakistan and married selecus daughter, but in india Chanakya is considered above Chandragupta, because the main man behind Mauryan empire was chanakya, who was political professor in taxishila university
Were there any dynasties that weren't mentioned by the other youtubers that you would have put on the list?
Yeah, I think the 18th and 19th Dynasties of Egypt could definitely have been on there, as well as the Julio-Claudian or Constantinian Dynasties.
@@UsefulCharts Yeah I agree. I think that those 4 would be a lot better than the akkadian, barcid, nubian, and egyptian fourth dynasties. Thanks for making this great subjective video. It sparks interesting discussions like these.