The Wicked Crimes of Mary Bell
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- During the 1960s Mary Bell's crimes shocked the world, not just because the victims were children, but because she was a child herself. Bell became one of the youngest people to be charged with murder in modern history. The details of her gruesome acts and the subsequent trial captivated global attention. Her case raised profound questions about juvenile criminal responsibility. Despite serving a prison sentence, she was released in 1980 and granted lifelong anonymity. The story of Mary Bell remains a chilling chapter in true crime, sparking ongoing debates on rehabilitation and the complexities surrounding childhood criminality.
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This is what bugs me when people say "back in my day xyz didn't happen!" yes, yes it did. Kids were terribly abused. Awful murders happened. Babies were neglected. You just didn't know about it.
I recently had a younger person tell me that the violence happening these days is because parents now "don't know what their kids are doing." I can remember being pushed out of the house and told not to come back till dinnertime... from the age of 5.
Also, they got away with more, because they were never recorded, like now when everyone can take photos and videos with their phones.
Indeed, you are quite correct. Man/ Women have always committed atrocities throughout written history.
For some their childhood naïveté is ignored and they don’t realize how sheltered they were.
@@mariaaguadoball3407My mother was 3rd of 4 children, born in the early 50’s. Her sister was the oldest and at age 8/9 was sent out with the younger children, one still in a pram, with bread and jam, and a bottle of water. They knew they were to stay out all day. I’m not saying all parents were so neglectful, but it certainly happened 😢
Reminder that families with sexual abuse will often lie about it, even long after the fact. The fact her family didn't corroborate sexual abuse of Mary doesn't mean it didn't happen.
And sometimes, in a family with multiple children, only one of them will the be the subject of abuse, or will receive a different form of abuse than the others. The eldest child usually is the one who bears the brunt of it.
@@kerim.peardon5551Mary was born the second eldest btw
But it also doesn't mean it did
@@playaprinnces At the rate her mother was trying to do her in, did her elder sibling even survive childhood?
She was an evil murderous bitch, trying to give excuses for this crap, is an insult to the 2 little boys. Many children from that era grew up in the same social environment with shit parents, but do you know what, they didn't murder 2 little boys and cut their genitalia. She should not be living her cosy little life as a mother and grandmother that profited handsomely from her crimes. She should have had life imprisonment as beings as she took away 2 lives.
So sad, all the way around May those 2 boys Rest in Peace😢
Wow. I have heard of this case before quite a few times, but ..”Well I Never” heard the information which is provided here.Thank you for- (yet again ) all the facts. Amazing work.
30:12 that's deep. Real deep
Repressed trauma and unrequited anger she could not know how to process the. Way her mother tried to sell her and. Was disappointed to not have gotten to and tried to drown her.
Mom is garbage
She's still alive ?! Holy Moly 😮
As she didn't get the death sentence which had been abolished why would you be surprised that she's still alive? It wasn't THAT long ago.
They had stopped executing children under the age of 18 many years before Mary Bell committed her crimes,in fact not since the late 19th century.
I know it was a different time but 3 and 4 year olds out running around playing alone is hard to comprehend in this day and age
I grew up in that "time" and there IS no way 3 or 4 yr olds were running around like that where I'm from .....
Children do not howxto play now or adapt to playground interaction to prepare them for real life.
Sorry forgot to add NOT alone. and there were boundaries.
When I was that age I was also allowed to play with other kids on a playground close to my house. My mother checked in once every while, as did the parents of the other kids. I knew I wasn't allowed to go past a certain tree and I always had to tell my mom if I went with one of the other kids to their house (although i regularly forgot that last one). I grew up in the 90s and my brothers in the 2000s. I think part of it is cultural. In my country children are trusted to discover independence at a young age.
@@SherryAnnOfTheWest I am a year younger than Mary and although the kids in my area played in the street, we were Never allowed to go beyond set borders or be out of the sight of an adult. Nor were 3 and 4 year olds allowed out. The idea that they were allowed to roam seemingly at will, like little ferals, in areas that were dangerous enough without psycho kids, made my blood run cold. And the way nothing was done when there were a forest of Red Flags Imagine if Social Services and the police had allowed this to happen now.
Knowing child development and how a lack of care + affection and trauma impact that development plus everything about a person that comes with it, I’m sadly not surprised Mary was such a violent child. Infants need to be held and emotionally regulated, for their emotional and physical needs met for their brains to develop well. Brains are foundations up and those first months and years are critical. If her mother didn’t even want her at the birth and spent Mary’s childhood sending her away, hating her and even trying to kill her, that makes for a terrible brain soup for Mary. I’m mostly shocked she was able to grow up seemingly well, have a family, and become a member of society with no further behavioral concerns and who feels genuine remorse. I’m happy for her in that regard, that’s really promising for other kids with trauma backgrounds, while still devastated for the lives she took and families who lost the boys. This case is devastating on a lot of levels.
Honestly, I am waiting until the daughter has her say until I accept that everything was "normal" in Mary´s adult life. Maybe it was. But often, the child will see wha the outside world does not if a true psychopath has not truly been "cured" or has just learned to act that way.
@@raquellofstedt9713I understand your way of thinking, but I really do believe it is much more common than we think for children to develop a trauma based psychopathy that gets "better" as they age into adulthood. I've seen it go both ways really. Children aren't set in stone as much as adults.
Really well said. Reasoning and understanding of consequence develop as we grow and I think this has been the case with Mary, where the distance of years has allowed her to change. God how complex.
Mary Bell had a horrific life that no one should inflict on a child, and this spilled out in her dreadful violent acts. But what should be remembered is that, with the minimum of care, she changed and has led a quiet, ordinary life ever since. How we treat our children is literally the difference between life and death.
Mary Bell is now in her sixties and is the grandmother of a teenage girl. She has never re-offended. Her crimes were unspeakable, but so, equally, was the trauma she endured. Surely she now deserves to be left alone to live the rest of her life in peace and obscurity.
Bell never mentioned the victims. Says it all about her.
@@grahamegaw-mc3bw how do you know that? Because if you read Gitta Serena’s book on the circumstances that lead to her killing those children, you would see that she has faced up to the truth of what she did and she does talk about the children. Just not to you.
@@993Redvegno not really
I agree she hadnt repffended and for heavens sake she was a child! Does anyone grasp that and her horrific upbringi g ? Who knows what effect it had on her to do these things
Mary's mom gets angry because...Mary embarrassed the family? Yikes. Mom is clearly just as much a monster.
This is exactly the same line my Father would have taken had I strayed from his bright-line path in the 1950s. Physical abuse of my siblings and I was a commonplace response to any infraction of the rules. I clearly remember my Father stripping my pants and underpants off at the breakfast table to check for belt welts. However, I did not follow in his footsteps and made a good life for myself, my daughters and now my granddaughters.
Exactly. Mary's mom lacked any empathy for the victims or for her daughter. Not surprising that Mary lacked empathy when she was younger, too.
Always the mom’s fault.
@@JennRighter Yep so many crazy women out there that get away with their abuse.
@@dr.ryttmastarecctm6595 Lucky you. I wasn't lucky enough to do that, or have any good befall me after I was kicked out of my house at age 18 without any training for life, just a lot of anger.
Paul you put it so well when you said “someone as broken as Mary Bell”. I think that’s it in a nutshell. From the moment she was born she was ill cherished and treated terribly. I think something in Mary broke, whether this was a genetic condition or developed, something disconnected in her mind and became fixated on inflicting pain. Emotionlessly, by the sound of things. I can’t help wondering what would have happened had she been able to come to Australia to live. And Norma is a whole other tragedy. It’s all tragic and frightening. Thank you so much for such a clear, balanced account of this horrible time. Shades of the murderers of poor James Bolger.
I have to add, so much respect to you for ending with that poor mother’s words. Perhaps her face of grief is the thing we should always remember most in this case. It’s a life sentence of sorrow that this woman carries forever.
I’m gonna guess something else is wrong as tons of people have just horrifically abusive lives and families as children snd they don’t immediately try to harm others.
very much so say's Gayla
Excellent , l urge people to Read CRY,S UNHEARD , ABSOLUTELY HEARTBREAKING MARY WAS BORN INTO HELL
I disagree. No grief or trauma is an excuse for a crime. If crime were viewed in such a way, then the law and the police would not be necessary. But if there is law and police, it means that crime cannot be tolerated, no matter what kind of unfortunate story the culprit had. In that case, we can all be evil because we have all experienced bad situations, but we need to control ourselves. It's easiest to be mean. Mary Bell's mother did not force her to murder, but her own choice. She had a murderous nature in her from birth. We are all from Adam and have a certain inborn sin. Basically, there can never be an excuse for a crime. The only people we can feel sorry for here are these two innocent children she killed
@@ComeAlongKay The reason not all abused kids go on to abuse others is mitigating factors. My father had an abusive childhood, but he had other good adults in his life to make up for his violent father. Abused kids often have absolutely no-one to turn to, and abuse makes you mistrust ALL adults, so you don't tell anyone. Where were the positive role models in Mary's life? Completely absent, by the sounds of things.
Scary for any parent TBH - you warn your bairns about the danger from strangers, but don't think about the serious harm that could come from other children. Thank you for another excellently researched documentary
I've always called my son my bairn! He was my wee bairn- but at 6'2", I had to drop the "wee".
None of my friends knew what I was talking about, so I was always explaining it. I may be American, but my paternal grandmother was Scottish. 🙏🏼
Nawwwww I became aware of the term Bairn from watching Outlander…. So sweet hearing it in real life!! Love from a very hot and sweaty Brisbane
@@djm7494 I have not got to watch that show yet. Heard it was good tho!
Ha. Good timing. My 11 year old daughter told me that a student was smoking crack in the bathroom today….she meant weed….but wth kids. When she was in 5th grade, her classmate brought a knife to school. In 2nd or 3rd grade, a student at her school brought a gun to school on a military base.
Bairn is baby bear?
When I was a child growing up in the late 1960s Germany, we children used to recite a little poem about "Mary Bell, child of Hell." The story about her crimes must have been in the news at the time.
Well don't just leave us in suspense... Recite the entire poem for us please
Zing it, Fritz!
How did the rhyme go?
That last bit from the mother did me in. I found myself crying in the bathroom at 6 a.m. as I got ready to go to work. See, this is why I tend to prefer to listen to older stories, where everyone who was there is dead and gone. Modern stories hit me harder because I know there are people out there living with the pain.
Hugs
You could still be alive if you are born in the 50s and 60s. I am here and friends who are born in the 30s.😀
@@fonziebulldog5786 That's their point; The mother may still be alive and suffering and missing her baby boy. I prefer the history true crime stories, for the same reason. They hurt, but not as sharply.
She was evil
Oh, bless.
The first five years of life, makes the human being. It's SO important that infants are brought into a safe and peaceful home.
If her mother was using drugs during the pregnancy as well, then that definitely could have affected the child’s brain. It’s not rare for children of addicts to be diagnosed with behavioural disorders.
Alcohol too. Though the mother also gave the children pills or other drugs to keep them sedate, which would also do a lot of damage to a developing young brain even if the mother abstained from taking drugs and/or alcohol during pregnancy.
@@Eidolon1andOnly I can't believe I forgot about the mother GIVING them actual pills. That absolutely would have messed up their development.
This is a tough one. If only the officers at the time took those little girls on the playground seriously , and the little boy that was pushed, there could be two lives saved.
Yup. The cops couldn't see past them being small girls. Assumed they were ultimately harmless.
@@basbleupeaunoireyeah people usually assume innocent looking means innocent, which has been proven false very many times. And people deflect the blame on to others if the person looks innocent but will say it’s just an excuse to blame others who were abusive towards them if the person doesn’t look innocent.
People didn't pay attention to children like that back then, and that is when they paid any attention and cared at all. There were no such things as child psychology. To them it was all just kids getting hurt during play. Things had to often really go south for them to care to look into them properly.
I’ve heard about Mary bell ages ago, but I’ve never heard this story told this well until now. You are amazing, sir! Also, can we have more blooper footage in the future too? You had me cracking up!
The last part brought tears to my eyes, no parent deserves to burry their child, and no child deserves to die before they had a life, he could have been someone who saved lives, had a family but his future was stolen and it can't be given back.
Very true
my name is Gayla
Yes, the 2 boys she gleefully murdered while the other pathetic girl watched had their futures stolen at the hands of a monster who the utilitarian court system declared matter more than theirs. 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Interesting new facts Mr Brody brought up here . I never read that Betty Bell had 3 other children as well as Mary and her younger brother. I wonder how the younger siblings managed to stay safe from Mary ? The contraceptive pill was available at this period so why did Betty choose to have 5 kids ?
In Gitta Sereny's book she elaborates on the S&M techniques which Betty employed on her clients, maybe that's where little Mary picked up the idea of asphyxiation being something pleasurable rather than fatal ?
I guess, leading up to the murders, Mary got away with escalating bad behaviour towards other neighbourhood kids because her mum was a nutter and her stepdad was the local hard man. Can you imagine the response you'd get if you knocked on their door for a friendly discussion about what's wrong with Mary ! A Glasgow smile ?
Mary was a victim of horrific abuse from her mother and others at a young age. Then she went on to abuse others who were smaller than her. It’s a horrific cycle and I hope she was able to break it with her own family.
Do you believe that bs??? She wasn’t abused! That is simply an excuse to justify her behavior.
Nowadays the lame band wagon excuse is "Mental health issues" It's a get out of jail card.
@AnAdorableWombat1 It was proven that her mother was bringing clients home and Mary had to listen to the bandage noises going on in another room so, I would say that in itself is pretty Horrific for a child. Traumatising too. It's no excuse at all for what Mary did though, I agree.
@@AnAdorableWombat1she was taken to hospital with broken limbs that were not satisfactorily explained. Nowadays there would have been social services intervention.
@@user-zt1er1uj6i "noWaDays??? Are you serious??? Little kid talk
Oh yeah, Elizabeth is upset about the shame Mary brought to the family huh? Seems legit. Don’t look at your own behavior and accept any responsibility for what you did to that child.
I’ve always wondered why the children who murdered James Bulger were displayed across the media at 10 years old, yet their home life was never mentioned. They were known to constantly skip school, wandering here, there, and everywhere. What kind of parent doesn’t know what their 10 y/o little boy is? I’m sorry, but when a child commits such crimes, the parents hold equal responsibility in my eyes.
And what is the use of assigning responsibility?
@@janmeyer3129 without assigning responsibility you can't assign consequences and make changes for better.
It came out later in much more detail how those boys were ‘ feral children’, not cared about or cared for by anyone.
Accountable yes to a degree, but there are uncontrollable , nasty kids that the nicest of parents cant tame. Cant put everyone in one box.
Be prepared to have fear, anxiety and wonder fill u.
A better storyteller, there is none. 👍🏼
Sounds like Mary did have quite a few mental disorders. I wonder which of them are genetic, given her mother is also not neurotypical, and which are made by her environment. I feel very sorry for the victims and I'm glad to hear that she didn't commit any further crimes and apparently got her life together.
She went on to living a "normal" life and has a daughter herself now so maybe she is a prime example of the "nature over nurture" argument so many psychological professionals go back and forth on... quite possibly if her mom wasn't such a shit show dumpster fire of a parent who exposed her to such awful stuff at such a young age, she would have probably never done what she did to begin with....the entire thing was just sad all the way around the board.
It could very well be entirely created by her environment. Even psychopathy. Being hated and abused during childhood can cure you from empathy.
@@Nebol might be. Same goes for the mother I think, she lived through war after all...
Just because she hasn't killed since doesn't mean she isn't still a sociopath. Most sociopaths don't kill anyways. She could be a horrible person to people in her life for all we know. Or she has completely changed.
@@jamiemohan2049great point!! Very true. Most sociopaths are not killers at all.
Growing up in a small villiage in the north east in the 1980s, we were told to stay away from a woman at the top of our new built housing estate because she was believed to be Mary Bell under a new identity, living there with her own child. This came from a neighbour who was a serving police constable at the time.
Omg! How terrifying 😮😮
@@TheCandiceWangHe broke his Oath as civil servant. Tongues will wag😮!
Understandable though. He would have lived in the local area and care about people there.
That must have been tough.
@@evelynwilson1566 He had three young children of his own, so yes.
Imagine being a girl and finding out your own mother murdered and mutilated 2 children when she was... Britain's youngest killer (I think she may be). She'd be shook.
I wish they would have written about what happened to Norma Bell.
Thank you for the great narration. I love your voice! 🇨🇦👍
And the rest of Mary Bells family!
I feel so much for that poor child
Mary's mother "died of lung cancer in 1990, at the age of 50. She had been living in a council flat in Newcastle upon Tyne, and had been estranged from her daughter for many years. She was buried in an unmarked grave, and her death was not widely reported."
I once saw another documentary: The Mary Bell case. It was obvious that Norma Bell (no relation) wasn't a bright girl. Mary took the initiative.Norma was easily lead. She had a passive role. In her sentence the court found that Mary had a high intelligence, was devious and a cunning personality, typical for a psychopath.....and what most striking was: she showed no remorse at all! Norma had a completely other character. She had a much dimmer mind, was easily lead. So the court took the decision to set Norma free of all charges. Immediately after sentencing Mary to an indeterminate sentence ("at Her Majesty's pleasure") Norma joined her parents to go home.....The Mary Bell case is also featured on RUclips (47:46). In this video there is also an interview with Betty, Mary's mother, from 1972, four years after the murders........
My wife lost her son at age 2 1/2 and I know how true Mrs Brown's statement is. You truly do not ever "get over" the death of a child, you simply survive it.
Mary Bell probably had fetal alcohol syndrome, or was born addicted to drugs, add that to the psychological abuse (and probable sexual abuse) it is a miracle she didn't turn out much much much worse
How could she be worse?
Imagine the cold heartless person who would call a grieving mother, ask to see her dead child and then state that they know her child is dead, they want to him in his coffin. What kind of person would do that?
Mary bell was evil & rotten pure & simple.
A psychopath who is sly and intelligent. She even lied and argued with the police like a pro.
A very damaged child.
A child who truly doesn’t understand what death is. She knew she inflicted it and there would be a body, etc, but didn’t understand it wanted to know more.
Her own mother utterly despised her and tried to kill her, so why (in her mind) would another mother care if someone asked to see her child’s body? Mary’s mom would have been indifferent. That was the only mothering Mary ever had or understood, and universally children think that all families are like their own, and the norm in their home is the norm everywhere. I don’t think she had any conception whatever of the pain she caused, because no one in her home would have cared if she was hurt or died (except maybe her dad, but then again her dad allowed all the things Mary went through and didn’t protect her)
As a child I grew up in one abusive home after another. At the age of my dad pointed a 13 gauge sawed off shot gun to my head when he was drunk and said sorry Becky I have to do this. I was put up for adoption into an extremely cruel and abusive home where I put through every kind of abuse. When I was 12 I was going to kill my adoptive dad who was sleeping on the couch. I even had the rifle aimed at his head. It was the strongest desire I've ever had in my life. Two times I held the rifle to his head. And both times, it kept coming into my mind, "Thou, shall not kill, would I go to prison or a mental institution. My adoptive dad is alive today. I had to learn and memorize the 10 commandments. That's what saved his life. I was out of my adoptive parents house a year later. I told my principal at the Christian school what my adoptive dad to me and I chose to stay in foster care. Not all of us that were abused turned killers or abused our children like the statistics say we will. There are some like me that refuse to be a statistic.
I am deeply saddened to hear of your experience. May your blessings continue to flourish in every way😊!
Were the foster/adopted kids after you safe?
Did the predator magically stop hurting children?
@@michelleeverett8125 Excellent point.
@@michelleeverett8125 you want her to shoot and kill her abuser? She did what was right for her. Not her fault if the law is not allowed or fails in its duty to protect the victim instead if pandering to the criminal.
@@michelleeverett8125 Don't put that onto her. She's been through trauma you can't even imagine. It took me 21 years to even ACKNOWLEDGE TO MYSELF what was done to me, let alone think about reporting it.
Yay a new video from Paul. Thanks so much
I have read Cries Unheard and it's a very good book. I feel sorry for everyone involved, except, maybe, Mary's mother.
Do we know the kind of upbringing Mary's mother had? Perhaps her mother and father abused her and she had a shocking upbringing also.
I’ve read both Gitta Sereny’s books on Mary and they are so interesting, highly recommend anyone interested in this case read them!
@@janetpendlebury6808it's like a chain.
I'm happy Mary seems to have broken it, in the end, hopefully her daughter and grandchildren will be fine.
@@janetpendlebury6808I will be shocked if Mrs. Bell wasn't highly extremely abused, herself, as a child. As said, these generational traumas happen in cycles. I pray to God that Mary has actually broken the cycle, rather than just pretended to.
@@TheCandiceWangI'd put more likes on your comment if I could. I pray for the cycle to be broken too.
Thank you for telling such a horrific story so eloquently and gently.
The readings from the murdered little boys mum broke my heart💔
Thank you, Paul!
I've seen several documentaries about Mary Bell, but none explained Mary's background. I now really have a different view on the case. It's horrible what she did, but I also feel for her.
😂😂😂😅😅😅😂❤😂
There are lots of docus on youtube about Mary's background and the extreme abuse she suffered
I don't feel bad for her at all. There are many abused children sadly. She was evil and she enjoyed inflicting pain. Why didn't her siblings kill people? They had the same mother. Zero pity and she went on to have a child and only God knows what she put that child through.
@@lisabelle7553if you don't feel compassion for a child that has suffered be it mary or her victims. Perhaps you ought to look inside yourself.
Not everyone in the same family is exposed to the same abuse at all. She wasn’t the child of her kindly stepfather, her parentage is unknown. He could’ve been an absolute psychopath. She was severely abused & she, unlike her siblings had some kind of serious mental illness. She was disturbed, very disturbed, but she wasn’t evil. Norma sounds like she had a very low IQ. Tragic tragic stuff for those poor families of the young kids who were murdered.
The girls would have turned out very differently. With parents who were moral
Where else does a child. Acquire a moral. Code of conduct. But the ones who are there in the formative years
Childhood trauma is always the core of our issues. If not talked about and dealt with as an adult you may replicate the cycle. We all must address our families of origin in order to understand ourselves and achieve self awareness.
Sadness all around . The human condition is difficult . May all children be safe , happy and protected .
Well told...a better telling and more complete than ive read or seen before...God rest the souls of those 2 boys...and ifeel true sorrow for their families...
Weird one for me personally. Mary lived in my area when I was a bairn in the mid-late 90s. Obviously under a new identity but these things become very well known amongst smaller communities. Thinking back, it must have been before the book was released, as I remember meeting her daughter, too. A very weird feeling for a younger me who didn't fully understand the extent of her crimes, but I was always aware of her past, even as a young kid.
It is strange when you know you live near someone who has killed someone.
I know it's not the same thing but remember that depending on your age you WILL have known people who have killed someone. My Grandads were in the World Wars - my maternal grandad in WWI and my paternal grandad in WWII. I never knew the former as he died when my mother was a child but my paternal Grandad was a big part of my life as a child. It is likely that both of them had killed people during their time in the wars. @@phaedrapage4217
How awful to be the child of a murderer. I would feel like I had to watch my back for life.
Where?
No body knows where She lived, Apparently She lived in most parts of the UK simultaneously for decades.😒
Great video as always.
Another wonderful piece of work Paul thank you
Hearing that these 3 year old little boys were allowed outside to play with their friends without adult supervision is crazy to hear. Times certainly have changed.
I lived in quite an affluent suburb in Australia in the 1950s & 1960s & we were free to roam as an unsupervised pack until tea time
Wow. You have filled in so many holes for me in the story of Mary Bell.❤
How in the world was her mom allowed to keep her and the other siblings, when they were constantly going to hospital for over-dosing on medications? Attempted drowning? Did CPS not exist in 1960's England yet?
Also horrified how children as young as 3 could just freely go play in derelict houses as if going to play on a jungle gym and no one is alarmed if they don't come back home on time for supper 😬
I worked in Scotswood in the 90s and knew several people who played with Mary when children. However this documentary is the first time I've heard the full story. Both chilling and tragic.
Glad that you thrived ...😊!
You are doing this in an understanding and emphatic way. More and more, I am convinced, that content like Your's is now the real "Television". This case is of special hopelessness. But You manage the content with dignity.
Such a respectful video with regards to the victims of Mary Bell and their families
According to the journalist who wrote a book about her and got to know her, Mary seems genuinely remorseful. Especially after becoming a mother and grandmother herself. And she’s not committed another crime since then as far as we know.
As far as we know …
I recently read the 2 books, very interesting and informative
Its a shame the two little boys didn't get to grow up to be fathers,and grandfathers.
@@patricklee6066 EXACTLY.
And were supposed to feel sorry for her.
At 21:06 my goodness Mary Bell has huge pupils here..
It's the betrayal of a parent to not instill a sense of right and wrong in the children they brought in to the world
I missed you saying well i never❤
it is crazy to think about letting a 3 year old go off in the streets to explore the neighborhood
I did at 3 yr old in 1969..... I
I was born in 1957 and I can assure you, decent folks never let their 3 year olds wander outside. A 3 year old might get outside by accident but not otherwise.
When I was a kid we worked in the mines.
How the parents not watched their children and let them run around as a 3 year old, that's neglect.
@alikamal3464 neither did my parents. I'm sorry about your experience.
Not in those days.
She lived in Newcastle upon Tyne not Glasgow.
I think they said her mother did
7:25 Mary was a beautiful girl who deserved to be loved just like everyone else. We are products of our envirourment and experiences but we can always make a choice to be who we want to be, it really saddens me when people who don't have their lives in order get children only fck them up, they look up to us, I won't have children until i am a good example and am financially and emotionally stable, if not who will my child become?
Well said! 💯
That's a very compassionate point of view. I think you will be a wonderful mother.
@@carolannemckenzie3849 Thank you but i am not financially or mentaly stable enough
This is the most thorough and heartbreaking version of this case that I've heard. I'm praying that Mary made the most of her second chance, especially with her family, and that the families of the children brutally removed from the world will have supernatural peace and comfort in their Lives. Thank you for your thoughtful and compassionate care of this story.
I'm glad Mary was able to be rehabilitated, and went on to live a normal life. If anyone is to be blamed for Mary's actions as a child, it was her mother. Being taken away from her mother was the best thing that could have happened to that poor child. The care she got after she was removed from her mother's home must have been exceptionally good, as she felt remorse for her actions, and went on to live a normal life. Not all children who have committed such crimes turn out so well.
Glad to see this comment! Was always horrified by her story until a couple of years ago, a documentary gave more info than I’d previously ever heard.
And now I think this little girl was just acting out what she was seeing, hearing, experiencing…
She got help and is said to have had a good and productive life…
Never forgetting the victims and their family’s..
child neglect and abuse has a ripple affect.
Sounds like her mother was just another Mary bell that never received help tbh. Do we blame society?
Thank you for honoring the mother’s loss.
A tragic story, however it makes it a bit more easy to digest with the clear empathy in the voice, from the narrator.
Hope everyone is OK, and will have a good weekend, despite frost and snow having come in the north now.
this was a difficult watch. such a cruel little person, no doubt inherited from her mother. as i was watching i said "like her mother" and then you literally echoed my words. i'm shocked she had a child of her own... i wonder whether she suppresses the bad urges or managed to grow out of them? regardless, i feel so sorry for the victims.
She not only had a daughter, she also has a granddaughter 😱😱😱😤
I've read about this and seen several documentaries on this case, but you did the best I've heard. I've always been creeped out by her eerie beauty.
Other people have hard upbringing but are not evil like this. No excuses from bleeding hearts per-lease!
Great storytelling again! I’m glad to have found this channel. I actually thought Mary was going to commit more crimes while she was locked up. She should not have profited in anyway from the book. Thanks for sharing!
*ANY WAY
The families of the victims shouldn’t be given money 60 years on. The parents are not alive and giving money to the younger family members would just be an undeserved windfall, not compensation for the loss of a relative they never knew.
@@AntelJM you are correct I was upset hearing this and forgot the time frame. Sorry about that
A monster!
Very chilling story, thanks Paul 😊
Mary Bell had undoubted mental issues but there was a chilling element to her. She accused an innocent teacher of assaulting her fortunately for him there was proof he was innocent. Although she didn’t commit anymore crimes that is partly due to the fact she was under constant observation. Mary Bell was given a great deal of help but Norma Bell received none. She is fortunate to be a mother and grandmother and I hope that made her realise the enormity of what she did. She must have had a chaotic childhood but I know people who had terrible childhoods and undoubtedly suffer for it but they grew up to be decent people. Mary Bell was fortunate that she was caught and received so much help and so are the people who lived near her
This is 100% the finest telling of Mary Bell’s story. I’ve watched many about her here on RUclips, but this piece was far more informative. Thank you!
Thank you for being such a great story teller with compassion!!!
I walk past that old girls remand home in seaham everyday and i never knew she stayed ther!
Thank you for including the comments of the little boy’s mum. I lost a toddler to cancer but this is so much worse: from my heart I wish her peace. Our babies are with their family in heaven, and we are still their mother, we shall meet in that glorious place where all our troubles are forgotten 🙏🏻
I'm so sorry for the loss of your child 🙏😢 🕊
"Face had almost a permanent look of confusion".....I don't know why I found that so funny. What a tragic story. No winners here. Children so young. Heartbreaking. It's really a shame they couldn't hold any adults responsible. Your child tortures and kills for fun but everything at home with them seemed fine to you? Your either stupid, you didn't give a damn or both.
I have watched many stories about Mary Bell. You went more into detail and background information than the others.
A truly amazing video, I love how it end with what the victims mother. Her word are really powerful.
Thanks for the upload, Paul. I've heard of Mary Bell before, of course, and am looking forward to this video.
Wow, that part of the UK back in that time is really hard to wrap my mind around. I can't imagine how any parent would allow their small children, even toddlers, to go play in what looks like an apocalyptic wasteland, completely without any kind of adult supervision, for hours at a time. What the hell?
I know it was the 60s, but I never understand how little kids are allowed to go out to play unattended. I was 4 in 1969, I was never allowed out by myself. A 4 year old is still a baby and needs supervision. Not just because they could get murdered, but they can get hurt by doing things they shouldn’t be doing with no one there to stop them.
@karenocon9190 A baby is generally considered to be up to the age of 1 then becomes a toddler and so on...
@@crose7412 if you want to be technical, yes. But even toddlers and on up need supervision. A 4 year old is not capable of keeping themselves from being abducted. It’s just common sense.
@@karenocon9190 I do want to be technical i.e. factually accurate.
I think the word you are looking for is"pedantic".
@@annkynaston3605 What does that mean?
myra hindley said to her sister..we got beaten as children.
her sister replied " yes..but i didnt do what YOU did !!
same with the evil mary bell !
It sounds like Mary was abused above and beyond that suffered by siblings. Also Myra Hindley had a fully developed prefrontal cortex which is necessary to be able to understand consequence.
Like the other person said, Myra Hindley was an adult at the time of her crimes, while Mary was eleven. I can’t get behind branding a deeply disturbed child, too young to even really think things through, as evil for the rest of their life.
Well done, as always. I've watched many other RUclips true crime channels which covered Mary Bell in the past. I must say you certainly found information & details that I haven't heard before.
Well presented, as usual and the 30 minute length contributed to the thoroughness. Thank you!
I'm from Northumberland, my Mum always told me to get home before dark so Mary Bell couldn't get me. Just her name terrified me as a kid. And to think she may be a neighbour, even a friend & unless she tells you, you'll never know.
As a mother of a 3 year old toddler I am glad it is not common anymore for children that age to wander around "with their friends". I take him to the grocery store, I am with him. He can not be left alone. Such a small child. Props for children's social services to be alert commonly as we are living in 2020's for those unfortunate (kids from alcoholic/drug addict homes)
am a subscriber to multiple crime channels on RUclips and have requested this case to all of them. Finally, some coverage, thank you!!!
The death off a child in this way never leaves you.
I feel sorry for those families who lost someone. I am truly sorry for Mary, her mother was the Moster and a hooker, only the man upstairs knows what she could have passed on if anything to her children. What happened to the oldest and the rest of the children. The other problem is why wasn't all the kids taken away from that woman.
I am triggered. She did not deserve to love, become mother and grow old, she shouldn't have these privileges. She took away this opportunity from two little boys for fun and thrill. The parents, the society and the government failed here but there's a lot of children who grow up in abusive households and they do not commit crimes so horrific as she did. I hope she's an outcast and suffers great defarmation wherever she'll go. There's just no redemption or forgiveness of crimes like this. And she decided to monetize her repulsive deeds in book? It's just... Families of these boys should have fill a lawsuit to take this money made of blood of their children away from her. But here comes government, ready to protect perpetrator again.
This is so scary for any parent to live through, I hope the victims families are doing well; the pain never really goes away and my heart breaks for them.
Thank you Paul and team for covering this.
That bir from the boy's mother has got to be one of the most painful and honest things I have ever heard.
I'm counting this video as a birthday present 🎁
Happy birthday 🥳
@@EllieGrant1❤
that was a dark story. wow
Good grief, how many young kids gotta get hurt or murdered before the parents ban their kids from playing in the friggin demolition zone rat alley? Pretty sure after one 3 year old kid was already found deceased, whether they still thought it was a accident or not, never should your first thought of why your THREE YEAR OLD hasnt returned home on time have been "oh he probably lost track of time playing in the demolition zone, that 3 year old rapscallion of mine" like seriously
Did you know, Mary’s little brother was called Baby
Baby Bell.
(Don’t put Baby Bell in the corner!)
Thank you for the video.I remember this case well,back in the day.Here in Derby,East Midlands,it was rumoured Mary was seen in a local pub,with a man,whilst on her absconding from internment.I wonder why any parent would let a 3 yr old play out in the streets? I know things were different back then,but 3 seems a bit young to me.Mary seemed to keep slipping through the net.I agree her childhood was tragic,but there was obviously more to her than that.Just think,someone is living right next door to her today.Admittedly she seems to have turned her life around,but what a risk it may have been to give her a new identity.Not quite sure how i feel about this.🤔
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I think people don't like to think that parents wouldn't involve their children in their prostitution, but those "customers" would offer big money for that "service." Being resentful and addicted, no one should put to it past Betty to have done so, especially not wanting her from the start so she probably saw Mary as a burden and maybe owed her.
Ive heard the Mary Bell story a couple of times and read about her, but you've been the only one to cover her upbringing, so thanku Sir. And you most certainly tell it the best 👌 👍
In the 1960s, I worked as a porter/driver at Prudhoe Mental Hospital. I was told to go to Newcastle and pick up two young girls. I picked them up with the hospital mini-bus from a facility in Newcastle. The girls were both very pretty and for the whole journey, they never said a word. I was to drop them off at a home/ward at the Children's Village in the hospital. I believe it was called the Flemming ward. I was never told on that day who these children were, all I knew was they were there to be assessed. When I did find out who they were I was shocked as they appeared to be quiet and well-mannered. I wouldn't have thought they were capable of doing what they did.
If Mary's mother tried to give up Mary and her siblings multiple times for adoption, I wonder why did she carry through all the pregnancies? Some people are not meant to be parents, I guess.
Yes I don't get it either. The contraceptive pill was available to women by that era. Why didn't Betty do herself , and the rest of humanity , a favour and take it ?
Contraceptive existed, but often women were abused and judged if they used it.
I know of people who were abandoned bg society just for being pregnant out of wedlock, abandoned by the father of the baby.
Sad times.
I'd like to know what was her mum's upbringing too.
@@Uapa500i highly suspect betty was also abused. It tends to run in families.
I knew of this evil girl when I was growing up, I was 6 when she did the murders...my mum told me about her when I was 10.
But decades later listening to you telling the full story, the horrific details etc, I was in tears and appalled at how vile Mary really was 😢 absolutely horrific! Obviously she was evil to the core, as it seems her brothers and sisters were brought up in the same awful unloving household with a rotten mother but they never went on to murder.
This is exactly what I just thought of. What is her excuse when her siblings didn't all become murderers? This girl was horrifically abused and traumatized, parents from hell, no doubt, I have heart for Mary there. There was no way she was gonna grow up well-adjusted. But her having siblings who didn't murder, is a great example. Her mother belonged in prison forever, too
Such an awful set of circumstances. Children who witness or experience sexual abuse or violence OFTEN act it out with others as an attempt to make sense of what happened to them, the same way children in happier homes “play house” or take care of dolls the way they see parents take care of younger siblings. If it is true she saw/was exposed to/ experienced her moms sado-masochism, it is (sickeningly) natural she would act it out on other children, especially since it was happening at home, meaning she didn’t have a safe haven or safe adults to return to or escape to. Similarly, children tend to think whatever is normal in their home is normal everywhere. She truly could not have understood at her age then that the violence she dealt wasn’t a normal, quasi-acceptable part of life. She was simply experimenting with and mimicking what her mom did, and it is clear Mary had no one in her life to explain the difference between mom’s “job” and the violence Mary committed.
I have worked in domestic violence shelters before, with very young kids who experienced or witnessed horrible abuses, and I have had to isolate children who were abused from other kids because they couldn’t stop acting out what they had experienced as they tried to cope and understand their own abuse. It is heart wrenching. They are kids who are “born bad” or “psychopaths” or whatever- they are normal kids whose lives have been abnormally horrible. I truly, deeply believe Mary’s mom is 100% at fault along with her father who was complicit by doing nothing to protect her. I am infuriated she didn’t do time for her abuse, and that no one thought to look into Mary’s home life or remove them when Mary first became violent. I know it says she stayed with various relatives, but she should have been removed by protective services and her mother should never have been allowed to contact her again.
All that said, I want to also recognize that abused people of any age do not necessarily become abusers, as is shown by Mary’s siblings who were raised by the same abusive mom but didn’t kill anyone.
Well, I never thought that they would release a person like Mary Bell from prison.....
@JJW77 He said that she was to be detained until no longer considered a danger...which is what happened.