Bodies in the Walls and Under The Floorboards - The Horrors of 10 Rillington Place
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- When Timothy Evans met John Reginald Christie his fate, like many others, was sealed. However, while Christie would be revealed to be a serial killer, his involvement in the Evans' death was less direct.
His crimes at 10 Rillington Place, Notting Hill, live on in infamy. So heinous were his acts that years later the entire street would be razed to the ground.
Today we explore this case and the lives he tragically cut short.
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The 1970 film 10 Rilington Place is well worth watching: it has Richard Attenborough as Christie and John Hurt as Evans. The latter's role as the pathetic Evans is extraordinary and heartbreaking.
oohh John Hurt ❤ miss him
It's a good movie, I agree.
I've seen that movie. It's really good.
@@EnglishNorthern Also loved him in scandal, alien and midnight express
I always think of this film when rillington place is mentioned. Attenborough is really creepy throughout and the make up is on point because he wasn't exactly an old man at the time.
The fact Christe actually admitted to the murder of Beryl, and then only retracted when Evan's mother begged him to also admit to the baby, literally seals his guilt, without taking the fact he was a prolific serial killer in to account... So i think Beryl's brother is in denial, he clearly didn't like Evans and very much liked Christie, so i think it's this fact and an understandable large amount of grief that's led to his denial at refusing to believe anyone other than Evans killed his sister, let alone Christie... Very sad and creepy story, but well told as always
I wonder how many Christie murdered during the war
@@bogusmogus9551very true and I wouldn't be surprised if he did, but sadly it is very hard to prove because of the death that happens on a daily basis during war, it's hard for them to get enough evidence to separate the ones killed by war and the others who could have been killed through, it's horrible to say, but more self-satisfactory murders
People understandably focus on the evil Mister Christie. Unfortunately, they tend to overlook the police who railroaded poor Mister Evans. The botched investigation was bad enough, but cops who deliberately coerce confessions deserve the severest punishment. They are far more numerous than the odd serial killer, and almost always unaccountable
Perhaps the grieving husband confessed to the murder, because he too wanted to die, he didn't want to fight? So sad.
@@silverwater211 Anything is possible. But I think the ideas already expressed explain it.
@@shadowlouiseno its fact the police murdered Evens let's get Real.
@@jamescorlett5272 As I said to @silverwater211, I think the ideas already expressed explain it.
I think Evans mental age was preyed on by the police and it was easy for them to coerce him any way they wanted.
The evil he did was bad enough, but him lying to help convict an innocent man…that is a whole new layer of rotten soul.
I truly hope each victim is resting in peace.🕊
*This is truly a case for all investigators to study. Real proof that everything is not always as it seems.*
Well said in every syllable.
Yes...
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It is a tragedy of course but at the same time the hindsight thing 'kicks in'
They're all British, heaven is a bit of a fantasy for these poor fellas
I think Beryl's brother is also trying to cope with the fact he liked, and enjoyed the company of, Christie and so needs Timothy Evans to be guilty.
I’m reading Thorley’s book now.Let’s see.
Yeah, it’s hard for us to admit when we’ve been conned. That you liked the man really responsible for the deaths of your sister and her husband… that’s be a difficult pill to swallow.
You're probably right, and even if Timothy Evans killed his wife, it would have been accidentally, and not premeditated murder. But in all fairness, Christie was responsible for all the murders.
9@@Ann-sj4pt😢 17:36
Yuppers. It was all denial as he wanted hated and was more than likely joyfully counting down the days to the wrong man’s hanging. It’s rlly sad though that he was blinded by his anger and would continue letting the true killer completely deceive him, which is what got his sister, niece, brother in-law and many other folks murdered.
I knew a guy who lived near him and he said there was always a very creepy vibe from the place: whenever you'd walk past the house, he said, you could see the curtain upstairs twitching so you knew he was watching you. Monster is a word that suits him perfectly.
Not sure about the accuracy of your friends story. If you look at the pictures of number 10 it was right next to a brick wall so a bit difficult to walk passed it & secondly the Christie’s occupied the ground floor flat .
Fun(nish) fact - my grandfather was arrested and held for several hours because he matched the description of Christie
Oh my!😮
Such a coincidence!!😮😮
And then you woke up?
😮
Poor Beryl. She married a horrific man and then had the misfortune of living next to a monster like Christie. She never stood a chance.
I think Beryl’s brother is completely in denial - it’s clear as a polar summer day Robert Evans’ confession was fake and coerced through violence and John Christie was the one who kill3d both Beryl and Geraldine - because otherwise Peter would have to admit (to himself first) he has made a terrible mistake.
No he wasnt in denial Timothy Evans was abusive physically to Geraldine. He should know he was there plenty times witnessing their arguements. John Evans was a pathological liar, but one of his warders had no doubt he murdered his baby and wife, he admitted it before he was executed, he even mentioned it to another prisoner. There were bruises all over Beryls body, not mentioned during the trial, he was an abusive drunkard, and even a psychiatrist mentioned he was an inadequate psychopath. John Christie gassed his victims. There was no need to subdue them, before he strangled and raped them. There was no sign of gas in Beryls body during the autopsy or signs of an abortion. Her husband strangled her after one of their arguements probably over money, and he murdered Geraldine because he couldnt handle her crying. John Christie helped him hiding the bodies, because he would not have wanted the police to come to house, as he had bodies in kitchen living room and garden
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I sincerely believe Evans was innocent. Thank you for sharing this one.
@@Miniver765 I agree
Then why did he put her in the floorboards.?
@@stardustmelody2709 Your thinking of a different body, their bodies where found in a washroom.
In this case, there was two people, the one who committed the crimes, and the poor man that took the fall, that poor man was Evans. He wasn’t guilty, of any crime. Hope this helps you understand the case. Much Love ❤️ from Australia 🇦🇺
He had the misfortune to be uneducated and not quick on the uptake. Poor man
I don't blame Beryl's brother for hating the man who beat his sister, but it's tragic that his dislike for Tim Evans has blinded him to the full extent of the heinous crimes of John Christie.
A miscarriage of justice, and then a ridiculous justification years later, oh yeah the powers that be... another excellent episode Paul, thank you Sir!!!🙏😢⚖️🤔❣️
What isn't mentioned here is that this case helped bring about an end to the death penalty in the UK. I think there were only 2 more executions after Christie's. I agree with the condemnation of police conduct that led to the conviction of an innocent person, but some responsibility falls on Evan's attorney.
BTW, Mr.Ballen also has a video about this case.
Ruth Fürst, his first victim, usually doesn’t get much mention. First time I hear some detail.
This was a very disturbing story. Having seen the movie 10 Rillington Place which terrified me, your retelling in such a clear and unemotional voice was greatly appreciated. Thank you.
I've heard this story before, every time it's just as heart breaking. Timothy Evans may not have been a violent person, but with the evidence presented and overlooked accompanied by The fact that a serial killer lived in the building, there is more than reasonable doubt as to his guilt.
I think you meant to say "Timothy Evans may have been a violent person"?
Oh, Paul, thank you, thank you!! I’m getting ready for work at the end of a very hard week & I’m really not looking forward to it. But I just came across your newest video & now I can listen to your beautiful voice while I’m getting ready!! I can’t begin to tell you how much you’ve brightened my day!! God bless, Paul, & keep up the wonderful work!! 💜
Lord Denning argued at length against a posthumous pardon for Evans, as to do so would "Undermine confidence in the Judicial system".
Denning, BTW, was a lead prosecutor at the Nurenberg Nazi war crime trials. Which seems to have broken his mind somewhat - he had an attitude of "Just Hang 'Em All ..."
God bless you Mr Paul, once again you're helping me wind down from a super long week 😞,thank you so much 💓
Paul, I have heard of this before but you gave so much more inf information and told it so well. I watched it twice in four hours. God bless you
An excellent video, thank you for posting. In the 70s I lived near Rillington Place or what was left of it. The buildings had been demolished but there was still a gap in the pavement where the road would have turned into it. The garden of the daughter of the lady we bought the house from backed on to Christie's and she would often see him and his dog outside. The area has been redeveloped now but the location of No.10 is a greenspace with buildings butting up to it.
Yay!!!! Nothing better than a new Well I Never video after lunch!!! Hello from Georgia, United States
It beggars belief that with all the other bodies found, they only charged him with killing his wife.
War time must have been heaven for serial killers. 😮
Only two of his murders were in war time.
Or the war moulded them in to killers. Maybe their childhood background has something to do with it
Oh yes😮
Psychopaths have been known to take advantage of armed conflicts, political unrest and also natural disasters to cover up their crimes.
Fact... 10 Rillington place was ACTUALLY filmed in Rillington place..
Was pulled down soon after...
Wow didn’t realise that! Must have been weird for the actors!
There is a film or is it a documentary? Is it titled "10 Rillington Place" or does it have another name? I would like to see it.
The movie was titled 10 Rillinigton Place. It starred Judy Geeson and Richard Attenborough.
What happened to Tim and his young family has always really moved me. Tim was obviously not perfect, but they were all thoroughly taken advantage of. Living through that must have felt like a nightmare for him.
Christie must have been a truly manipulative and convincing, though horrible human being. To have Beryl’s brother convinced that he didn’t murder his sister, despite evidence and a confession - wow.
It is perplexing to me that Ethel did not know her husband was killing people and hiding their bodies in her home. So many people picked up on the smells. How could she not know?
In the film 10 Rillington Place it shows Ethel knew & turned a blind eye to some of his killings, but that’s only the film’s interpretation. I think she knew that something was going on.
@@Antipope23 I hadn’t realised there was a film. I need to check that out.
Didn't Ethel notice Beryl and the baby's bodies in the tiny wash house they used every day ? Did the Christie's dog not sniff out the bodies ? The wash house was literally feet away from the Christie's kitchen window and door ? Also didn't she ever notice the human femur bone propping up her garden fence ?
She knew. She was dealing the "denial" card.
Ethel was probably terrified. You have no idea how an abusive man can effect control over his victim, even to the point where she believes escape is impossible and accepts her fate, and he could certainly make veiled, if not direct, threats.
Another great story thank you for your unbiased view on the subject
Thank you for this video. 10 Rillington Place is a good movie about this case.
10 Rillington Place - the film with Richard Attenborough is a classic and chilling portrayal of the banal ordinary nature of evil.
A must watch for anyone interested in the case.
And a reminder of what life was like back in the 50s for the working classes. Living conditions were basic and miserable.
You have the most perfect voice narrating these stories and I'm quite sure I'd be rather bored if it were anyone else! I'm so grateful I came across your channel. Thank you!
@3:50 Seen this pic many times in my 50 years, but never noticed the CAT 🙀 ON HIS SHOULDER until now! 😂
Went back to see what you were talking about. By Jove ....there is a cat on his shoulder. 🤓....good eye.👍
Same here. That poor, innocent little cat. Little did it know it was riding on the shoulder of a mad man. My black and white boy sits on my shoulder. 😊
Great summation of the case that covers everything...
I had seen the Attenborough film but you made it much plainer for me... thanks 👍
John hurt a quite reserved but brilliant character acting certainly his role as the unfortunate timothy evans was undermined slightly by his fame as playing on the original film as the elephant man.simply performance at its most fetching.richard Attenborough from playing his superb role here as the devious Christie showed his qualities by shifting across the board after the heroic part in the Great escape.these gentlemen proved the pinnacle of British cinema at its most diverse.
This story is so creepy. The film -- which was well done with amazing actors who brought their roles to life -- scared the crap out of me. That an innocent man died over this really distrurbed me. Evans was convicted and put to death simply by bias and prejudice.
it still happens in the US, it's terrifying! The Innocence Project exists just for this issue.
I agree - one of the creepiest films I've ever seen! On a par with 'Hannibal' I've seen a photo of the street decorated with bunting for the 1953 Coronation!
Timothy Evans was innocent and I believe Beryl's brother is just being vindictive and making money out of a horrendous crime.
Essentially a case of cop vs the disabled. An unfair and easy win. Evans may not have been a great husband, but he cared. He didn’t deserve to lose his wife, daughter, or his life. I think Beryl’s brother has a very, very biased opinion. Which is no surprise in the slightest, of course.
Rest in Peace, Timothy Evans, you were a victim of the British Justice and Court of Law. You were convicted of something you didn’t do. I’m so sorry this happened to you, being pardoned hasn’t entirely justified what you had been through. Rest in peace, lad.
Thank you for your hard work bringing us wonderful content Paul ❤️
Thank you for the upload, Paul.
Thanks again for your great video of true crime stories you make so intriguing with all of the facts.
Great show, thanks
Always really interesting
And your delivery is brilliant 👍
Poor Timothy Evans! Christie was responsible for his murder, too.
Fantastic video loved it, The film about this was amazing so errie I watched it with my mum in about 1979/80 my dad would never watch anything like this, he had an aunt who lived on rillington place during the time the murder's happend. Well told my friend like the channel ♥️
You always elegantly tell these dark tales
I love the way you tell the stories. Your voice is pleasant to my ears. I sleep with storytelling. You have the perfect pattern to do story telling for sleep. Have you thought about it?
I agree, I also listen to his voice to go to sleep. Much better than a sleeping tablet.
11 p.m. Perfect timing!
Such a heinous and tragic case 😢
I'm a mr. Ballen fan. I have just discovered you sir. Three thumbs up!
Good Day, Sir.
One of your more gripping tales of woe, my God man. It's a wonder they hadn't turned the soil with salt after the demolition and just left it.
Then again, London real-estate values...
I can only imagine odd goings-on at the new property built in its place.
Ever consider doing a follow-up on paranormal activities??
Thank you sir, that was both tragic and spooky..
Paul another amazing video video sensational job as always guys
Going to have to try your site as an asmr so i can sleep bcuz you are so soothing. What a gift. Thank you for these horrifying deeds spoken so eloquently.
Horrifying! I love your stories and HOW you tell them. It's very interesting to listen to.
Tjena syster 👋
@@anderspaulsson Hej hej!
Excellent thanks , I can remember seeing Christie at madam T’ s in the chamber of horrors, back in the 1970’s 😮very scary as i was 8? And seeing the film and tv series, but yours was well researched and presented well done 👏 I always wonder how people lived in that street as every photo I have seen of the street and houses look pretty depressing even for back then !!
I fail to see what made Christie so irresistible and believable. He was a small weak man , his crimes were heinous and the monster blamed Timothy Evans of the murder of his wife and baby, so really Christie was responsible for killing the whole family.
Christie was "unassuming and quiet." He was not stupid or mentally challenged in the same sense as the alcoholic Evans with his alleged 70 I.Q. Christie didn't "look" like a monster - most of them don't. He certainly wasn't attractive, IMO 🫤 My guess, in those days, he was "sympathetic" to the girls in desperate trouble... times we soooo different right after WWII. Knocked up and unmarried?
What a brilliant episode! Thank you so much for your work!
The young man might have been many things, but a killer he was not. The odds of two killers occupying the same building at the same time and yet not being in league with one another makes Evans an unlikely killer.
Unlikely, but not impossible.
I find it sad that the police culture of reluctance to investigate fellow police is still an issue all these years later. This reminded me a lot of the tragedy of Sarah Everard's murder, which would have been so preventable had the police investigated one of their officers more thoroughly. Hopefully in years to come, this trend will be completely alien and justice will be universally applied
Your last sentence... that'll never happen. Judicial systems are corrupt.
I never knew about, John Christie's, rampant murder spree, 'till I saw the Richard Attenborough portrayal, of John Christie's bio-pic; '10 Rhillington Place'. After viewing this I can say, the film was pretty close, to what actually unfolded.
6:02 HIS SMILE WARMS MY HEART!❤
The eerie misic really adds to this story's narration.
What a wonderful video... many thanks :) Very sad though :(
Death for Death...
Guy is a great story teller.
At least when a person was found guilty of murder back then they were put to death shortly thereafter. Christie was a monster. R.I.P. Tim Evans and all the victims of this monster. 🙏
Well, capital punishment is supposed to be for those cases where rehabilitation is deemed unlikely, and recidivism high. For cases so heinous, criminals so lacking in humanity, it is better for all, including the criminal, to release them from this life. It should be for those who are clearly guilty.
WOW!!! What a grim sight. Always the innocent people that must pay the price for some misfit in live..... 😢
You research and present these very well indeed. Excellent work. ❤
I don’t think Christie was unwilling to admit killing little Geraldine, he didn’t want to be known as a child killer. I don’t think Evans was guilty of murder and it would have been. Remarkable coincidence to have two murderers living in the same house who were not acting together in these crimes. I believe that Beryl’s brother who would have been very young at the time had an immature grip of what was really happening because of his youth, he had reason to hate Evans but It seems most likely that Christie exploited the problems between the young couple for his own ends. Reinforcing that view is the testimony of the workmen whose evidence was never used and would have raised very strong doubt about Evan’s guilt.
Might I suggest you do a video about Albert Pierrepoint?
I have watched 10 Rilington Place many times Christie was the most evil man.Bad enough to kill these poor women but to take the life of a baby is worse.He was beyond insane.
Superb, excellent presentation and all very fascinating.
My partner & I visited his grave grave for the 1st time in 2020 on the 9th March, it was the 70th anniversary of his murder by the state. We have visited it a few times now, we placed a card on his grave & an artificial rose. A production team were making 2 oart documentaries about wrongful court verdict including, amongst others Timothy & Derek Bently (whose grave we have also visited), they see our card & gave it to Timothy's sister who at the time was 97, hus great Nephew phoned ne as it had my phone number on it in case anyone from the family visited, he phoned & gave me a LOT of background information. We spokeva few times on the phone, 1 call lasted 2hrs & 18 mins. Amongst other things he told me some of the things that we're wrong about the 1971 film.
On the date of his execution they don't answer the phone ir interact with anyone. He thanked us for visiting his grave. We've done a few 'pieces to camara' at his grave.
Mary Jane Kelly, the 5th Jack the Ripper victim & Lewis Stephens (Blakey from the sit-come On the Buses) are also buried there.
My uncle worked on the busses all his working life, he had Mr Pierpoint on his route a few times in Dublin, they had to get an English man to perform hangings.
Christie killed all of them. He was a psychopath. Beryl’s brother can’t admit that while his former BIL was limited by his intellectual shortcomings and wasn’t kind to his wife, he wasn’t responsible for her murder. He wants his hatred and Evans’ execution to be justified, despite the evidence that Christie was, in fact, a serial killer.
is it hard to keep your hands together that long?? Great videos...keep up the good work!
Your stuff is greatly educational.
Good lord, who had the longer more heinous jacket??
They forced the poor guy with numerous mental issues to confess to something he never did. Absolutely evil and shameful. Their failure allowed a monster to continue killing. His reaction to finding out his daughter was not safe should have alerted them.
Well, at least Timothy Evans can laugh at John Christie in hell.
Hello Paul my friend 😊
Such a pleasure to see you
Remembering when it happened and people that had been inside that house mentioned the smell inside
Just found you and thank God I did. This is amazing content!
Welcome aboard! 😁
excellent, a lot of information I wasn't aware of.
A very very sad story your videos are very thorough you are an excellent narrator and you have an excellent channel thank you for posting
Rillington Place starring Tim Roth on iplayer is excellent.
What matters is that the general public, Parliament and every other judiciary body in the UK and worldwide is aware that Evans was innocent! It has been proven it has been stated that it is recorded. I well know these kind of miscarriages happen all the time, still the fact that we are paying attention and using this case as a model it says something... it's good; it's progress. Also I know this story like the back my hand It was my post graduate thesis....but I love your delivery of it more than any other because you're wonderful(!) . What a macabre drligh you are. I thank you.
A murder case was your post graduate thesis? In what? Forensic science maybe? I'm intrigued. Tell us more please.
Christie admitted to the killing of Beryl on April 27th 1953 but not of her daughter Geraldine.This is at 26.20
Wow! Just wow! This story is almost too wild to believe.
His legal counsel was worse than useless. Evans should have been retried for that reason alone
I have heard this story from Mr Ballen but he told from Timothys side. Your version from John Christies side is the same interesting. Great story, Paul. Stay healthy and take care yourself. Hopefully you make another Q&A ❤
And I believe Timothy was innocent.
Mr. Evans did not murder his wife and beloved daughter! His only crime was that of having difficulty communicating, and depression and horror at finding them deceased.
Christie was the only guilty party.
I love your narration!
Theres still a patch of ground from 10 Rillington place i think ? It's in memoriam to the victims a small square patch 😔🙏
A very sad story, its crazy that it took so long for the authorities to find out. Or maybe not.
By the way Mr. I Never, I don't think you have done anything on H.H.Holmes. Thats a crazy insane story that few people know about. I came across it accidently while looking up something about the Fan Dancer, Sally Rand, which lead me to the first Worlds Fair in Chicago, which lead to finding out about the "Horror Hotel". That story made me ill.
thank you,a gripping well read story of terror.
It is with great sorrow and an unmistakable sense of injustice that we acknowledge the tragic mishandling of Timothy Evans' case. The true malefactor responsible for the heinous murders that transpired within the confines of 10 Rillington Place was none other than John Reginald Christie himself. In his shocking and despicable acts, Christie not only mercilessly took the life of Timothy's dear wife but also callously extinguished the innocent soul of their precious baby girl, Geraldine.
And the precious life of her unborn baby!
This is why I don’t agree with capital punishment. For the hundreds that are guilty there may also be one innocent.
Have you ever considered doing a segment on the Hare and Burke killings in 19th century Edinburgh? I hear a bit about this while doing a tour of the city.
The concept of a posthumous pardon for someone wrongly convicted of a crime is fundamentally flawed. A pardon is not an acknowledgement of innocence. If someone is found to have been innocent of a crime, then the guilty verdict should be struck from the record. No pardon required.
Great video! Thank you!🍺