@Musa Johannes Sithole , but there where many motions of no confidence. I also do not recall her ever speaking out against the shenanigans that went on while she was under the command of her ex
@@MusehanaH The merits of the Two circumstances differe. In Cyril's case, Parliament initiated an impeachment process by appointing an Independent Parkiament which concluded that the President has a case to answer whereas during Zuma, there was no such panel. it was only at the end of Zuma's term that the constitutiional Court agreed with EFF that former Pres has violated his Oath of Office that the entire NEC agreed that he either resigns or be taken out on motion of no confidence. He ended up following the latter. She may not tell you what role she played in convincing him to resign.
@Musa Johannes Sithole , you do not need merits to DECIDE what is right and what is wrong...only when you want to CHOOSE when you want something to be right and when to be wrong. NDZ is perfectly playing the latter
I'm so surprised suddenly she knows that she's a public representative, An over the years she protected her father's kids not the public she claims to be representing, what a shame on you Gogo!
What is the difference between the then Nkandla saga and the Phala Phala one now? She voted against the motion in the Nkandla matter but voted for the motion now. Why?
On Phalaphala they were not voting for impeachment and the debate at nec was not concluded, other members were denied the opportunity to view their concern which is undemocratic.
the difference now is that they were no all engaged to the discussion during NEC meeting .the leadership concluded and left almost 20 people not allowed to speak and give input to metter.
If I was on her position. I was going to do the same. Ramaphosa made it clear that he is against corruption...what is shocking here is that when it's him..other members of the parliament are not allowed share their opinions.
@@MusehanaH Tax invasion, money laundering, using state apparatus unlawfully by send police to attend to unreported crime. Immigration violation as well. So else do you want?
Women must occupy the leadership positions not because they are women, but because they are competent. There shouldn't be a structure that forces women into positions of leadership but there should be a structure that ensures that selection of leadership candidates is not sexist.
She addressed a lot of important issue that are currently a problem in our country, she understand the problems our country Is facing and she can be the best president, I can see she can't be easily pocketed by those who want to squander our resources. Give her a chance. Last woman standing.
This is a woman who defied anc when Zuma was brought by anc to presidency remember she was in Mbekis administration, she left to work in AU when Zuma was president now I always say we must stop crucifying her for Zuma she is a fighter
Since when does the anc not speak as the collective? She lashed out on anc memebers who wanted to vote against Zuma today she does not want to tow the anc line, something she used to insist on. When you are old amnesia is very common.
@@conceptbran she didn’t give us her personal view as a so called disciplined cadre. It’s ok to allow for discussion, why can’t she tell us the difference between the two cases, in her conscience mind
@@conceptbran I dont think people understand the distinction, solely because they believe she supports Zuma. which is dumb if you ask me, because we are the ones suffering now not the politicians
Power of women, they care labout the well being of society. Women are the majority in this country and that should translate into leadership positions. This is a struggle we as senior citizens should wage for the benefit of our children.
No. After JZ was elected he was doing fine you can go back and check the ratings from the archives of citipress and other Organisations. The problems started after JZ joined BRICS moving away from being controlled by the West and being advised by our own "white monopoly capitalists" and choose to be advised by "Some Indians". Then after, "THEY" came for him, as they normally do to every Leader who is not in "THEIR" camp, and everyone who was close. They destroyed JZ's image by using the wrong deeds of people who are close to him and projected him in the public as someone who facilitated the wrong doings. Using the Zondo Commission reports, there is no conclusive evidence that JZ was facilitating corruption, hence the media is quiet on that aspect but it does show that people were using their relationship with JZ to influence and do curruption. Let us learn to throw away emotions and analyse information objectively. Feel free to educate and enlighten me. Disclaimer : I have not yet completed State Capture Reports.
@@madodasimelane2397 the people elect the leadership, so, the leadership is a direct reflection of the people who vote for them... you do not understand that, and that is why the country is in the mess it is in.
The work of Malema and at the end he showed showed him 🥾 Mathabatha because of his selfishness wants to repeat the same mistake. These Zulus think Limpopo is a playground 🛝
She makes perfect sense and she's very clear from beginning to end but if you oppose that,you have a serious problem or perhaps benefiting from corruption....
Strange how she lied continuesly about reasons for banning tabbaco cant wait to see her reasons besides her Zim tabacco ties she is running scared as ALL HER LOCK DOWN CR%P is going to be made public including her fake medical FACTS that the WHO refuted nutcase and mental case
I remember her constant lies during lock down and the damage she caused....... for that alone she should be trialed for treason the woman banned tobacco to promote her own business interests and WE ALL KNOW IT so mute the cow every oppertunity you can SABC
This is the Nkosazana, I know and do not understand why she's seems to feel not listened to. Leadership should strive and find each other and forget about their differences. This shows hoe deep patriarchy is in the ANC. During the course of the year I complained about the culture in the trade union movement in as far as gender equality is concerned. When I saw the list from varioys I got worried because it potrayed the dominance of men. This is the calibre of women one would like to see in the top 7. Sometimes I feel Nkosazana, Lindiwes are seen as threats which should not be the case. We shoukd all strive to strengthen the respective offices nit look at each other as threats. That's probable why we have this division because we're failing to utilised each other's strengths. Why were the discussions stopped? Remember your rivals most if the time tell you about what you do not know about yourself. You grow when you working with people with opposing views. It's a pity that these women are seen as enemies instead of understanding the women's perspective of things. CR and Gwede are used to trade offs from trade union background, unfortunately have not impacted thus skills to the group. Instead they're using it to their own advantage. We need to empower our young girls in mastering the art of engagement.
@@taxxc8461 You are part of the problem... you can't see with your own eyes and think with your own mind... you always follow the media... Do your own research and you'll know that she is right and Ramaphosa should step down as president
Did anyone try to get to the Chairperson of the ANC for a comment? Because this issue of cutting the meeting halfway seems serious, and it's been raised by the two senior members simultaneously. 🤔
One thing i like about Dr. Nkosazana Zuma is that she speaks her mind, tracing her back during , O.R Tambo's time, N.R Mandela , TM Mbeki and even during JG Zuma years, she was never a lacky of anyone. Of all things that she can be blamed of, of which i wouldn't know what it would be, she respects policies of the ANC and a loyal member. Even though i want CM Ramaphosa to be given a second term, i would prefer Dr. Nkosazana to be part of the 2nd term ministry as well.
The thing I find most sad is people say she protected her ex for all along like it was only her vote that kept Zuma in parliament. We all know today what that behaviour of the ANC in parliament did to us as a country. Now they are repeating the same thing and somehow this time it is different. The ANC has about 1,5M members and in the last election they got 10,5M votes. What are the 9M who watched this during Zuma's supposed to think. The way they behave now is exactly how they defended Zuma.
There is a big difference in that Cyril never stole anything from the state coffers. Zuma did continuously in fact South Africa is in a terrible state now because of the Zuma years. And of you look at those people calling for Ramaphosa's head, are the very people who had their fingers in the cookie jar. And of plus that are harboring presidential ambitions and know Cyril is in their way. They see that removing Cyril will throw a spanner in the works of dealing with the thieves.
Ramaphosa must go to jail enough is enough with his scandal's people have died too much on his time only bad thing's are happening there's too much blood on his hands
I could not listen to her full interview the moment she said " I did not defy the party line but I vote in the opposite direction contrary to the party position. You can't say because the twenty of you against the fifty disagree with the NEC decision is a justifiable reason to rebel against the party. NDZ should have accepted her mistake and her political hypocrisy and kept quiet... She took part in the last two motions of no confidence against JZ but she didn't vote as a public representative
There are quite a lot if families that go to bed daily without food and what is that the ANC Councillors are doing about that. I think they lost the touch with the society that they serve period.
This is why we never get anything done in SA; when we have to discuss an issue at hand then others go ‘but what about…? Now we want to ask what about the Nkandla issue, during Nkandla it was what about apartheid…what about this, what about that!!! Who give a flying pig about issues not related to the one we’re busy with! Also, it is about time our political system changed! We need a system with which we can hold individuals accountable, as the public! This nonsense of toeing the party line is BS and is the reason we see all this mess!!!
The thing here is that mama here was married to a man who ended up falling away from what the ANC stood for...it rubbed off her to an extend it tarnished her dignity.I sometimes wonder what her relationship was like when mama Winnie was still around🤔
So it has taken Dr Nkosazana Zuma 2Decades to realise what the real Black Developmental Issues faces!!!?Wow hayi le 'Leadership' Shem what a long way to go ,SA?
So everyone is deliberating on ANC politics, overlooking the content Nkosazana is PRESENTING today whether it can really WORK or not , the things that can change the economic outlook of the country. She is touching on skills development, proposing cut down on sending raw material to other countries so that we can retain high paying jobs, emancipation of women to be active in serious decisions, getting eskom skilled workforce to chant the way forward on eletricity generating options and maintenance of the current power plants . We as the society are as damaged as the ANC. we only talk what we like, ignoring our realities. When is South Africa going to be blessed with clean politician who is without fault to attend to all our challenges ?
Very true @Bongani Ndlela ... People are ready to follow the media and when thinking skills have to be applied they are no where to be seen... allowing the media to think for us is the biggest problem we have in this country
Power struggles and corruption will always be at in this party. The most important thing at the moment is Eskom. Care about the people of this country for a change.
That's what happens when you found a party based on guerrilla's and dole out government positions based on what they did in the apartheid struggle. Mandela kept things stable but alas, his successors got corrupted by greed and selfishness.
This is one of my best interviews I have ever lesson to Nkosazana D Z shows maturity when it comes to politics when it comes of running our country thumbs up I sallute you
NEVER forget what this woman did to this country, NEVER. Jobs lost, businesses closed down, the country will take decades to recover, if ever. If you still vote ANC, YOU are part of the problem.
She has a child who stole the money from the public purse. Well, CR PhalaPhala cattle money, it’s not from the public purse, he should come clean on this case to set scores straight. Nobody can claim CR stole the money him/her. 🤷🏾♂️ The only thing he did wrong was to not report the incident to the police. And the question is why?
Everyone is Forgetting that it is His Money and not State Money. He is a Billionaire. He was a Billionaire before he became President. Not like JZ and his Family who Plead Not Guilty all the time.
@@rufusmunien5588 i totally agree with you. CR had the money before becoming the president. He can do what ever he wants with his money. My guess is just jealousy or they are power hungry to get to the money through politics. CR is a smart person and I like him.
I hope you are not aware Comrade that in the very same thy money there's our tax, the very same thy money there's an exploitation of currency, lastly there's money laundering
He'll no, shd doesn't have such child...Zuma had many wives. Do your research first, that child you're talking about is not from her womb. Do your research first before you spit lie...that's called wisdom
She doesn't have a scandal, you can never win in ANC without a scandal. Zweli got digital vibes Ramaphosa Phala Phala, CR17, Marikana etc. Ramaphosa has also proven that he is incompetent and he can do a very bad job. Which is a top crteria in ANC. Highest unemployment rate in the world, loadshedding all day every day, the economy is performing badly Now you tell me who won.
Shame she's still bitter for the way in which ubaba wabantwan was fired it's understandable, it has nothing to do with processes I mean she has pronounced already that the president must go
She is fighting back after she lost at the 2017 conference.. This woman has never wishes Cyril well. What she want is to became the nxt president no matter what.
What is the RETIREMENT AGE for Politicians? Just asking, now that Nkosazana Zuma is saying that the youth should be given the chance. She is 73her husband is 80.
Young South Africans should listen and emulate leaders like N. Dlamini Zuma. Whatever differees are there between members of the ANC these differences should not distract members from ANC's objectives of serving the people of South Africa The Constitution is tge supreme law of the country. NDZ through her political maturity compromised her position and defended the Constitution in the Phalaphala matter. This is what OR Tambo has taught us. ANC as always promoted unity amongst its members. No member is more important than the other.
“If I was tired of being a member of the ANC probably I wouldn’t be where I am. I am not tired of being a member of the ANC. I am very disciplined and a very loyal member of the ANC but I don’t know about a rule that says you can’t express your views in Parliament, especially because we were not voting on a motion to remove the President. We were voting to say whether we agree with the report that Parliament itself had asked for and I read the report, and I did not disagree with the report,” she stressed🤔 John Pilger documentary 1997 warned of Ramadollar being a henchman of Nicky Oppenheimer a gentile convert
Ramaphosa will associate with whoever will keep the ANC alive and in power economically. This mama's group was killing the economy with the Guptas etc. All her talking is just to keep her ex and her friends out of jail.
My persol opinion is that this minister days are numbered and her own comrades is doing this to her. Get young men and women to become ministers and the elderly must go and rest now. Money is the route of all evil, as they say.
She was quite Ka her Ex husband. There was a mess in the state under the leadership of that man and so much going on and now Mr President Ramaphosa is under attack for fixing the errors that they allowed! We must not be blinded by an act that starts today and hasn't been implemented under President Zuma's administration. I'm not happy Ka Mama Dlamini Zuma..who is accountable to date about a lot of sagas and misuse of public funds. Ramaphosa found a lot of mess in the state and the same culprits are still in the body..it's hard for that man. Yhooooo fire 🔥
He found mess? Where was he, wasn't he a vice president? Fixing the error by stashing foreign currency in his sofas and using state apparatus without opening a case? Sending police beyond boarders without proper mandate? Yeh, right, fixing things neh!
ANC must be very careful...any one who voted against ANC executive position is against ANC...must be treated as such.it was clear what people who is against unity.
what record Nkosana Dlamini Zuma is setting let me set the record straight banning cigarettes going against Ramaphosa to unban cigarettes and alcohol The she gazzetted laws without public consent without Ramaphosa approval Ramaphosa when he says something on tv or news he says it's a collective decision meaning NDZ also she did unsavoury things to alienate us the ppl of South Africa isn't it time for NDZ to step down she made lawful unlawful rulings without the consent or public knowledge she is a disaster
Nkosazana Dlamini : 73 years. * David Mabuza age : 62 years . * Cyril Ramaphosa : 70 years. * Ace Magashule : 63 years. * Gwede manthashe : 67 years. * Lindiwe Sisulu : 68 years. * Noviwe Mapusa nqakula : 66 years. * Zweli Mkhize : 66 years. * Paul mashatile: 61 years. * Fikile mbalula : 51 years. * Naledi Pando: 69 years. *
@@bongajzulu3341 so what? Cyril Ramaphosa was in Jacob Zuma’s slate in 2012 & he got more votes than Jacob Zuma. From 2007 to date JZ and NDZ have been in the same camp. In 2017 Jacob Zuma endorsed Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma for President & in 2022 he has reiterated the same unwavering support. In head to head no Zuma has defeated Ramaphosa in an election dating back to 1991. So much frustration, pent up anger and chest pains. They know if they get rid of Ramaphosa as the front runner, Zweli Mkhize will be an easy meal. The public funds looted on digital vibes are a known quantity.
@@jameskillu9171 Unregisted to practice in SA doctor . Minister that failed in every Deparment and totaly destroyed AU in fact they celebrated when she left read her Wikipedia page a complete waste of human flesh
Cant believe any politician, especially her after what she did during covid
She's just revolting. A fat, little tin-pot, would-be dictator!
Dr Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma you were right"Mama" ✊
Thanks mama. Stop questioning nonsense to mama please.
So she's only a public representative under Ramaphosa? Under Zuma she wasn't?
No NEC member was not allowed to engage. There was no report instituted by Parliament at the time.
@@musajohannessithole8970 you are 101% correct leadership
@Musa Johannes Sithole , but there where many motions of no confidence. I also do not recall her ever speaking out against the shenanigans that went on while she was under the command of her ex
@@MusehanaH The merits of the Two circumstances differe. In Cyril's case, Parliament initiated an impeachment process by appointing an Independent Parkiament which concluded that the President has a case to answer whereas during Zuma, there was no such panel. it was only at the end of Zuma's term that the constitutiional Court agreed with EFF that former Pres has violated his Oath of Office that the entire NEC agreed that he either resigns or be taken out on motion of no confidence. He ended up following the latter. She may not tell you what role she played in convincing him to resign.
@Musa Johannes Sithole , you do not need merits to DECIDE what is right and what is wrong...only when you want to CHOOSE when you want something to be right and when to be wrong. NDZ is perfectly playing the latter
I'm so surprised suddenly she knows that she's a public representative, An over the years she protected her father's kids not the public she claims to be representing, what a shame on you Gogo!
shes not the main focus here...Phala phla report is..all of a suddeen u have lost track of that.."Media pOWER" huh?..thats a Shame!
On the issue of coal, I fully agree with her.
What is the difference between the then Nkandla saga and the Phala Phala one now?
She voted against the motion in the Nkandla matter but voted for the motion now. Why?
How do you know coz then it was a secret ballot.
On Phalaphala they were not voting for impeachment and the debate at nec was not concluded, other members were denied the opportunity to view their concern which is undemocratic.
@@nomfunekonosilela3895 There were more than one such motions in Zuma. You probably referring to the last one
the difference now is that they were no all engaged to the discussion during NEC meeting .the leadership concluded and left almost 20 people not allowed to speak and give input to metter.
The ramaphosa old man must go to jail enough is enough now
Dom Dlamini Zuma protected her corrupt ex-husband for years. It's miraculous how she suddenly discovered her moral backbone - hypocrite!!!
They agreed as a collective. No NEC member was not given a chance to debate in any NEC meeting at the time.
During Zumas motion NDZ was working at AU .how did he protected JZ while she was at AU
During Zumas motion NDZ was working at AU .how did he protected JZ while she was at AU
During Zumas motion NDZ was working at AU .how did he protected JZ while she was at AU .
Wrong
Don't ask nonses , this mama is very clever ,
Man put above her"she subject-he.Sincere Document.
She has already said the president must resign on twitter
That's true 😂 he broken the law
If I was on her position. I was going to do the same. Ramaphosa made it clear that he is against corruption...what is shocking here is that when it's him..other members of the parliament are not allowed share their opinions.
@@madodasimelane2397 , which law?
@@MusehanaH Go and research leadership
@@MusehanaH Tax invasion, money laundering, using state apparatus unlawfully by send police to attend to unreported crime. Immigration violation as well. So else do you want?
She must go rest , she has done much
Rather her than the oxygen depleting former spy with a nose the size of a live rhino
She must rest she has done much harm to this country already!!!!
Women must occupy the leadership positions not because they are women, but because they are competent. There shouldn't be a structure that forces women into positions of leadership but there should be a structure that ensures that selection of leadership candidates is not sexist.
very informative and straight forward, blessed to have such strong leadership respect to the old lady
Strong leader my foot. She is delusional.
She addressed a lot of important issue that are currently a problem in our country, she understand the problems our country Is facing and she can be the best president, I can see she can't be easily pocketed by those who want to squander our resources. Give her a chance. Last woman standing.
I agree, and in full support of what you are saying, we can be led here
I would understand her if during her husband presidency she defied the NEC
This is a woman who defied anc when Zuma was brought by anc to presidency remember she was in Mbekis administration, she left to work in AU when Zuma was president now I always say we must stop crucifying her for Zuma she is a fighter
Now you are mistaken and selective, in Polokwane she openly opposed her husband and supported Thabo Mbeki and you said nothing.
@@busikhoza7903 please remind them
It never rains in the ANC it pours! When are they going to lead us when they always bickering? There is a lot of dirty linen in the ruling party
Sophie must be patient with her questions, and give mama chance to express herself
Us that why she's crying? 😅😅
I share the same sentiments
And Nkadla ma’am? Wow!!!
MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT FOR YOU MAMA! WE SALUTE YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY AND FOR THINKING WITH YOUR MIND NOT YOUR STOMACH!!
Really leader
Since when does the anc not speak as the collective? She lashed out on anc memebers who wanted to vote against Zuma today she does not want to tow the anc line, something she used to insist on. When you are old amnesia is very common.
I am really starting to fall in love with this woman
She is true to herself, well structured and organised. She is for the people. She has a vision...only if she was given a chance in 2017 🤷🏽♀️
Obviously your not very fussy, banning cigarettes, why?
She didn’t clarify her position on the comparison in her votes between the Phalaphala and Nkandla
Exactly she’s double standard
She did draw the distinction in that Nkandla everyone was allowed to discuss the matter in the NEC.
@@conceptbran she didn’t give us her personal view as a so called disciplined cadre. It’s ok to allow for discussion, why can’t she tell us the difference between the two cases, in her conscience mind
@@conceptbran I dont think people understand the distinction, solely because they believe she supports Zuma. which is dumb if you ask me, because we are the ones suffering now not the politicians
She did, go and listen 🎧 again, with comprehension & understanding to this time around! 🥳
NDZ is truthful from the heart, I like this Madlamini .
This mama is very clever she has leadership skills
Who? Where? Wake-up bla!
@@taxxc8461 who where? what is that? come clear
@@mandlatembe7232 where is she clever and how? Is I have to spell it out for you.
@@taxxc8461 listen what she is saying, we can talk from there.
@@mandlatembe7232 I don’t have time to waste with that cheap talk. She has to come out and say her calculations were off. That is all
Power of women, they care labout the well being of society. Women are the majority in this country and that should translate into leadership positions.
This is a struggle we as senior citizens should wage for the benefit of our children.
What has gone wrong was the election of Zuma in the Polokwane Conference.
ANC is the people not the leadership
Where was she when Zuma was elected did she elect him
No. After JZ was elected he was doing fine you can go back and check the ratings from the archives of citipress and other Organisations. The problems started after JZ joined BRICS moving away from being controlled by the West and being advised by our own "white monopoly capitalists" and choose to be advised by "Some Indians". Then after, "THEY" came for him, as they normally do to every Leader who is not in "THEIR" camp, and everyone who was close. They destroyed JZ's image by using the wrong deeds of people who are close to him and projected him in the public as someone who facilitated the wrong doings.
Using the Zondo Commission reports, there is no conclusive evidence that JZ was facilitating corruption, hence the media is quiet on that aspect but it does show that people were using their relationship with JZ to influence and do curruption. Let us learn to throw away emotions and analyse information objectively. Feel free to educate and enlighten me.
Disclaimer :
I have not yet completed State Capture Reports.
@@madodasimelane2397 the people elect the leadership, so, the leadership is a direct reflection of the people who vote for them... you do not understand that, and that is why the country is in the mess it is in.
The work of Malema and at the end he showed showed him 🥾 Mathabatha because of his selfishness wants to repeat the same mistake. These Zulus think Limpopo is a playground 🛝
Dr your right and set the pace for other leaders who are rogues.
Mrs Nkosazane Dlamini Zuma she's with us, many others who are not for people but for money 💰 have received a brown envelope
She received brown envelope through her son
@@taxxc8461 We know Cyril's envelopes because of the court sealed documents, and you know yours how? please educate me
@@taxxc8461 People like you are the problem always pushing speculations
They sre idiots
Kkkkkkk.malema calls him " this useless gwede mantashe
She makes perfect sense and she's very clear from beginning to end but if you oppose that,you have a serious problem or perhaps benefiting from corruption....
She's a self blunder this one
She looking for that position we dnt need her s president
She can just kiss goodbye, she will never feel the touch of that chair 💺
She is only willing to answer questions relating to Zuma's presidency and that's loud enough for everyone to see.
According to your opinion yes
You didn't watch the video. Stop using emotions - listen and be objective. The video is quite informative.
You have no idea what the video is about! You couldn’t even watch the first 60 seconds of video
Yebo and....
Loud enough for tribilists
You demonstrated leadership. ANC is led mafia style. Unfortunately, it translated unto government.
She speaks straight through out
Strange how she lied continuesly about reasons for banning tabbaco cant wait to see her reasons besides her Zim tabacco ties she is running scared as ALL HER LOCK DOWN CR%P is going to be made public including her fake medical FACTS that the WHO refuted nutcase and mental case
She talks about consistency, tjoooo how consistent has she been. Amnesia is in the Dna of alot of political figures.
SABC censored Dlamini Zumas words, some part of the video freezes when she says something.
Why that so, what are they hiding ? Rather don't show us anything unless is the whole truth
I remember her constant lies during lock down and the damage she caused....... for that alone she should be trialed for treason the woman banned tobacco to promote her own business interests and WE ALL KNOW IT so mute the cow every oppertunity you can SABC
It's your network/connectivity, no censoring here. The video plays without any lagging
Nonesense
Another conspiracy theory 🤣🤣🤣
Why are politicians selective, when it comes to criminal activities?????????
This is the Nkosazana, I know and do not understand why she's seems to feel not listened to. Leadership should strive and find each other and forget about their differences.
This shows hoe deep patriarchy is in the ANC. During the course of the year I complained about the culture in the trade union movement in as far as gender equality is concerned.
When I saw the list from varioys I got worried because it potrayed the dominance of men.
This is the calibre of women one would like to see in the top 7.
Sometimes I feel Nkosazana, Lindiwes are seen as threats which should not be the case.
We shoukd all strive to strengthen the respective offices nit look at each other as threats. That's probable why we have this division because we're failing to utilised each other's strengths.
Why were the discussions stopped?
Remember your rivals most if the time tell you about what you do not know about yourself. You grow when you working with people with opposing views.
It's a pity that these women are seen as enemies instead of understanding the women's perspective of things.
CR and Gwede are used to trade offs from trade union background, unfortunately have not impacted thus skills to the group. Instead they're using it to their own advantage.
We need to empower our young girls in mastering the art of engagement.
They lost it with Nomzamo.
I think she's probably being punished for the cigarette and booze ban.
Bg
Tell them wena Mama, consistency is key...
Who? Where? How?
Thanks Kgomotso 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@nellie2mkhize608 shallow minded so called Dr.
She is not being consistent herself... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@taxxc8461 You are part of the problem... you can't see with your own eyes and think with your own mind... you always follow the media... Do your own research and you'll know that she is right and Ramaphosa should step down as president
Did anyone try to get to the Chairperson of the ANC for a comment? Because this issue of cutting the meeting halfway seems serious, and it's been raised by the two senior members simultaneously. 🤔
She is a leader who speaks sense.
One thing i like about Dr. Nkosazana Zuma is that she speaks her mind, tracing her back during , O.R Tambo's time, N.R Mandela , TM Mbeki and even during JG Zuma years, she was never a lacky of anyone. Of all things that she can be blamed of, of which i wouldn't know what it would be, she respects policies of the ANC and a loyal member. Even though i want CM Ramaphosa to be given a second term, i would prefer Dr. Nkosazana to be part of the 2nd term ministry as well.
You were right on the money, then your train went of the track at the end! But of course we are all entitled to our opinions!!!
We are making mistake by comparing situations let's be honest and responsible
The thing I find most sad is people say she protected her ex for all along like it was only her vote that kept Zuma in parliament. We all know today what that behaviour of the ANC in parliament did to us as a country. Now they are repeating the same thing and somehow this time it is different. The ANC has about 1,5M members and in the last election they got 10,5M votes. What are the 9M who watched this during Zuma's supposed to think. The way they behave now is exactly how they defended Zuma.
There is a big difference in that Cyril never stole anything from the state coffers. Zuma did continuously in fact South Africa is in a terrible state now because of the Zuma years. And of you look at those people calling for Ramaphosa's head, are the very people who had their fingers in the cookie jar. And of plus that are harboring presidential ambitions and know Cyril is in their way.
They see that removing Cyril will throw a spanner in the works of dealing with the thieves.
Mfeka why said is not not true? Why kept quiet during her ex? This old for nothing makoko
@@hermantsoenyane1969 Where is the evidence against Zuma? Do you know the evidence against Ramaphosa? ... Can you spot the difference?
Gangster of Thieves ,whores
@@hermantsoenyane1969....same WhatsApp group baba. There's no difference at all. They're both guilty.
Nksz don't be scare,d we are behind you they don't like the truth, you have been betrayed by the top 6.
She is not consistent. Not to be trusted she has something up her sleeve
Ye a shitload of cash from the cigarette ban.
Thats nice anc must all the rotten tomatoes out.we need peace not faction in anc
Kanti voting against Ramacovid ..is voting against the ANC???
Anc niyahlanya manje
Ramaphosa must go to jail enough is enough with his scandal's people have died too much on his time only bad thing's are happening there's too much blood on his hands
This one thinks the ANC is a family business.
I could not listen to her full interview the moment she said " I did not defy the party line but I vote in the opposite direction contrary to the party position.
You can't say because the twenty of you against the fifty disagree with the NEC decision is a justifiable reason to rebel against the party.
NDZ should have accepted her mistake and her political hypocrisy and kept quiet... She took part in the last two motions of no confidence against JZ but she didn't vote as a public representative
There are quite a lot if families that go to bed daily without food and what is that the ANC Councillors are doing about that. I think they lost the touch with the society that they serve period.
Thought she was the AU chair during the majority of the Zuma time and only returned back to SA in 2017??
Yes Ma'am 💖💖💖
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This is why we never get anything done in SA; when we have to discuss an issue at hand then others go ‘but what about…? Now we want to ask what about the Nkandla issue, during Nkandla it was what about apartheid…what about this, what about that!!! Who give a flying pig about issues not related to the one we’re busy with! Also, it is about time our political system changed! We need a system with which we can hold individuals accountable, as the public! This nonsense of toeing the party line is BS and is the reason we see all this mess!!!
The thing here is that mama here was married to a man who ended up falling away from what the ANC stood for...it rubbed off her to an extend it tarnished her dignity.I sometimes wonder what her relationship was like when mama Winnie was still around🤔
Dignity in the ANC? Where have you ever seen that????
So it has taken Dr Nkosazana Zuma 2Decades to realise what the real Black Developmental Issues faces!!!?Wow hayi le 'Leadership' Shem what a long way to go ,SA?
NDZ is spot on with regards to Eskom
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So everyone is deliberating on ANC politics, overlooking the content Nkosazana is PRESENTING today whether it can really WORK or not , the things that can change the economic outlook of the country. She is touching on skills development, proposing cut down on sending raw material to other countries so that we can retain high paying jobs, emancipation of women to be active in serious decisions, getting eskom skilled workforce to chant the way forward on eletricity generating options and maintenance of the current power plants . We as the society are as damaged as the ANC. we only talk what we like, ignoring our realities. When is South Africa going to be blessed with clean politician who is without fault to attend to all our challenges ?
Very true @Bongani Ndlela ... People are ready to follow the media and when thinking skills have to be applied they are no where to be seen... allowing the media to think for us is the biggest problem we have in this country
Sometimes it is so painful to hear some of the ANC top members complaining when their own decisions start to hurt them.
Power struggles and corruption will always be at in this party. The most important thing at the moment is Eskom. Care about the people of this country for a change.
That's what happens when you found a party based on guerrilla's and dole out government positions based on what they did in the apartheid struggle. Mandela kept things stable but alas, his successors got corrupted by greed and selfishness.
"I Nkosazana"
This interviewer is asking annoying questions sometimes
She’s not asking questions that clear our confusion in her position.
I mic Mr Xolani Gwala....🧐
This is one of my best interviews I have ever lesson to Nkosazana D Z shows maturity when it comes to politics when it comes of running our country thumbs up I sallute you
Clearly she doesnt know what she talking about.
The interviewer is not asking hard questions. She is evasive in her answers.
Because Clarice won't be bullied
What is it that she was evasive about? Which question you wanted her to ask, that she didn't?? 🤔
Mandela is turning in his grave. Gogo get real !
It was so exciting to see snakes coming out of their respective network...You had no chance skelm
My take is that when I first heard about corruption corruption by this political party when Sarafina,
NEVER forget what this woman did to this country, NEVER. Jobs lost, businesses closed down, the country will take decades to recover, if ever.
If you still vote ANC, YOU are part of the problem.
the english is tired. go and rest gogo
fallen heroes
This surname and her association with her ex is questionable so it's the problem
She has a child who stole the money from the public purse. Well, CR PhalaPhala cattle money, it’s not from the public purse, he should come clean on this case to set scores straight. Nobody can claim CR stole the money him/her. 🤷🏾♂️
The only thing he did wrong was to not report the incident to the police. And the question is why?
Everyone is Forgetting that it is His Money and not State Money. He is a Billionaire. He was a Billionaire before he became President. Not like JZ and his Family who Plead Not Guilty all the time.
@@rufusmunien5588 i totally agree with you. CR had the money before becoming the president. He can do what ever he wants with his money. My guess is just jealousy or they are power hungry to get to the money through politics. CR is a smart person and I like him.
I hope you are not aware Comrade that in the very same thy money there's our tax, the very same thy money there's an exploitation of currency, lastly there's money laundering
But the NPA failed dissmally to find what you believed happend unless you go to your nearest police station and open a case with your own evidence
He'll no, shd doesn't have such child...Zuma had many wives. Do your research first, that child you're talking about is not from her womb. Do your research first before you spit lie...that's called wisdom
Winnie Mandela. The ANC failed her to the grave .
if south africans failed to hear you now mama, then they deserve everything thats coming to them.
Dictatorship in an organization starts by ignoring others
I'm not a fan of NDZ but Sophie's tone of voice is unacceptable here. What kind of journalism is this?
She doesn't have a scandal, you can never win in ANC without a scandal.
Zweli got digital vibes
Ramaphosa Phala Phala, CR17, Marikana etc. Ramaphosa has also proven that he is incompetent and he can do a very bad job. Which is a top crteria in ANC. Highest unemployment rate in the world, loadshedding all day every day, the economy is performing badly
Now you tell me who won.
Shame she's still bitter for the way in which ubaba wabantwan was fired it's understandable, it has nothing to do with processes I mean she has pronounced already that the president must go
She’s just sold to the party not to the people! That’s why she withholds many things
She is fighting back after she lost at the 2017 conference.. This woman has never wishes Cyril well. What she want is to became the nxt president no matter what.
What is the RETIREMENT AGE for Politicians? Just asking, now that Nkosazana Zuma is saying that the youth should be given the chance. She is 73her husband is 80.
Young South Africans should listen and emulate leaders like N. Dlamini Zuma.
Whatever differees are there between members of the ANC these differences should not distract members from ANC's objectives of serving the people of South Africa
The Constitution is tge supreme law of the country.
NDZ through her political maturity compromised her position and defended the Constitution in the Phalaphala matter.
This is what OR Tambo has taught us.
ANC as always promoted unity amongst its members. No member is more important than the other.
There is NO absolution
What does that mean
He who appoints may also dissapoints
“If I was tired of being a member of the ANC probably I wouldn’t be where I am. I am not tired of being a member of the ANC. I am very disciplined and a very loyal member of the ANC but I don’t know about a rule that says you can’t express your views in Parliament, especially because we were not voting on a motion to remove the President. We were voting to say whether we agree with the report that Parliament itself had asked for and I read the report, and I did not disagree with the report,” she stressed🤔 John Pilger documentary 1997 warned of Ramadollar being a henchman of Nicky Oppenheimer a gentile convert
Ramaphosa will associate with whoever will keep the ANC alive and in power economically. This mama's group was killing the economy with the Guptas etc. All her talking is just to keep her ex and her friends out of jail.
@@jonye7511 whats the difference btwn Ramadollar and Zuma and DA ANC convicts representing white privilege
Not about not being allowed to express your view...all about when you choose to express your view...and for that, NDZ will be judged
@Junior Molefe , white privilege did not run off to Dubai with our money
@@MusehanaH Ppl judge even if u don't talk its better for her to push her own narrative🤔in a gangster party of convicts representing white privilege
My persol opinion is that this minister days are numbered and her own comrades is doing this to her. Get young men and women to become ministers and the elderly must go and rest now. Money is the route of all evil, as they say.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
She was quite Ka her Ex husband. There was a mess in the state under the leadership of that man and so much going on and now Mr President Ramaphosa is under attack for fixing the errors that they allowed! We must not be blinded by an act that starts today and hasn't been implemented under President Zuma's administration.
I'm not happy Ka Mama Dlamini Zuma..who is accountable to date about a lot of sagas and misuse of public funds. Ramaphosa found a lot of mess in the state and the same culprits are still in the body..it's hard for that man. Yhooooo fire 🔥
He found mess? Where was he, wasn't he a vice president? Fixing the error by stashing foreign currency in his sofas and using state apparatus without opening a case? Sending police beyond boarders without proper mandate? Yeh, right, fixing things neh!
ANC must be very careful...any one who voted against ANC executive position is against ANC...must be treated as such.it was clear what people who is against unity.
She was standing by ex husby
Corruption Corruption
I wish Dr Nkosazana Zuma was given a chance to lead in 2017, not these clowns who are running the ANC/Country now🙂.
I agree with u here. NK Zuma tried shame compared to other MP's
It was wrong for Zuma not to appear in the zondo commission and there was no way that almost every witness mentioned his name you were quite
How do you know when and ANC politician is lying?
Their lips will be moving 😁
what record Nkosana Dlamini Zuma is setting let me set the record straight
banning cigarettes going against Ramaphosa to unban cigarettes and alcohol
The she gazzetted laws without public consent without Ramaphosa approval
Ramaphosa when he says something on tv or news he says it's a collective decision meaning NDZ also she did unsavoury things to alienate us the ppl of South Africa isn't it time for NDZ to step down she made lawful unlawful rulings without the consent or public knowledge she is a disaster
This woman has held together the biggest union(OAU) of countries. what is RSA that she cannot b the president?
She is bigger than south Africa and ANC
Just ignore this old Tannie!!!!!
She sounds.juet like, wait for it, Zuma
Nkosazana Dlamini : 73 years.
* David Mabuza age : 62 years .
* Cyril Ramaphosa : 70 years.
* Ace Magashule : 63 years.
* Gwede manthashe : 67 years.
* Lindiwe Sisulu : 68 years.
* Noviwe Mapusa nqakula : 66 years.
* Zweli Mkhize : 66 years.
* Paul mashatile: 61 years.
* Fikile mbalula : 51 years.
* Naledi Pando: 69 years.
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I can just imagine the 51 year old loading airtime on all their phones.
Mr and Mrs Zuma and obviously on the same whatsap group.
I disagree bcos in 2007 when Zuma had a majority vote to be the President she was not in Zuma's slate but she was Mbeki's slate
Some people are stupid
@@bongajzulu3341 so what? Cyril Ramaphosa was in Jacob Zuma’s slate in 2012 & he got more votes than Jacob Zuma. From 2007 to date JZ and NDZ have been in the same camp. In 2017 Jacob Zuma endorsed Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma for President & in 2022 he has reiterated the same unwavering support. In head to head no Zuma has defeated Ramaphosa in an election dating back to 1991. So much frustration, pent up anger and chest pains.
They know if they get rid of Ramaphosa as the front runner, Zweli Mkhize will be an easy meal. The public funds looted on digital vibes are a known quantity.
@@jameskillu9171 Unregisted to practice in SA doctor . Minister that failed in every Deparment and totaly destroyed AU in fact they celebrated when she left read her Wikipedia page a complete waste of human flesh
@@ChannelTapes first, your source is wikipedia? I rest my case. what are your sources say about Gadafi?