Dlamini Zuma on voting for adoption of Section 89 Phala Phala Report
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- "As a disciplined member of the ANC, I vote yes!" Those were the words of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, who voted for the adoption of the Section 89 panel report.
Why did she vote this way? Let's find out.
SABC News International Editor Sophie Mokoena is in conversation with the ANC MP.
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All the hard work of the decade s blown away by one emotional vote. She put the interest of her family over that of the party.
Wrong,You failed to think,She represented the masses by voting Yes from her heart that's what the majority of S Africans want right now we want to know where was those $ comes from?
I salute you Dr Nkosazana♥️ I'm EFF by the way....
but we truly need leaders like you in South Africa
No surprise that you like what she did in voting with you EFF creche. She is an ill disciplined overrated washed out politician who cannot rise above the shadow of her former husband.
Don't we have younger ppl?...This woman should be an old age home...
@@monaliza3334hey wena…why hang on for so much for so long haibo mabayekele manje- it’s too much yhooo
Saddenly she is a public representative yeer. In 2017 she was calling for the head of those members that voted against Zuma. Selective conscious.
Hambolala wena suka!
Remind them…she must retire already
My point exactly and she is nothing but fractionist who is slave of Guptas
@@nomarussia5085 Never too late to do the right thing irrespective of the political angle
@@sifundonontlanga4202 We SAns benefit nothing by peddling to either faction, its was correct then to not tow the party line, and still is now
All she needs is a president from KZN. Why is it really so difficult for ANC KZN to nominate and allow to be ruled by someone not from KZN Province?
You may ask again
Yes my brother
Nkosazana is tribalistic!
Exactly.
@Ronald Roni there's no such, don't sway what she is saying we are all listening
Why ask people to vote and then discipline them for voting otherwise?
There must be age limit in Politics
Geriatrics who are power hungry. A fresh and young leadership is needed!!!!!!
😂
I salute you Nkosazana. Keep fighting for what is right. We are behind you.
NDZ is practically telling this ANC mafia & sellout leadership she doesn't beg them not even a bit that's very strong of her
Being honest is the bare minimum we require from leaders at least, if this is called strong then we are in serious trouble as a nation.
NDZ is showing corruption the middle finger!!
Why am I not convinced by this sudden change 🧐
Dlamini zuma voted against unemployent and loadsheding not against ANC
"THE REPORT DOESN'T SAY THE PRESIDENT IS GUILTY".....- Nkosazana Zuma
A lot of people failed grasp this logic
She said the president must step aside immediately after the report was released. Yesterday she was hoping most members will follow her and vote YES unyile.
@@innocentkunene9490 no, the parliamentarians who voted yes were trying to ensure Parliament does not cut off its own legs ... after all this panel investigation was commissioned by Parliament.
What a cadre. She is the personification of a strong woman.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
She should be an old age home.
Agreed 👍
@@monaliza3334 Long time ago👌👍
Hospice🤣
I have always believed in her...very strong woman, and fully concur with her arguments on Phala Phala Report...she's actually done nothing wrong.
the interviewers questions are biased ...
Nkosazana you voted well
We all vote well, its easy to vote, put a cross in the appropriate box...her choice however is debatable.
@@dont9249 she was voting as an honorable member.
Apparently the sitting President is a bad blood
We are proud of you Mama we need people like you in South Africa.We love you .
Mama u must rest
Very strong and courageous woman. Mana njalo MaDlamini
NDZ she is pillar of our struggles. Revolutionary Visionary of our moment. Highly discipline Revolutionary. Amandla.
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That's not what most of SAFRICAN women will vote for, especially the unmarried she is too honest to be voted for the top position.
Now I understand why she voted against it they needed ramaposa to clear his name answer some questions
Can she do the same for Jacob Zuma, I dont think so. This is bitterness
It will be better when ANC lead by a woman like this one she is not a girl.!! big up mama!!
No brains here 🧣
She’s too old
@@nomarussia5085 Yip 👌👍✌
The government has to many Double standards and its glaring.
If this country is really genuine it should respect people like this.and people like Fraser.these are heroes
Your heoros. Thanks
@@zukimagwentshu2065 mine too, we need transparency
Shut up you Zimbabweans
She isn't a hero at all. She is engaged in internal drama within her party. A party that right now is destroying South Africa. That isn't heroic at all.
Heroes my foot! Where was she when her ex husband was plundering State funds with his Guptas friends? She was quiet as a church mouse. And this Fraser guy needs to be walloped, he's the one who released ''Butter Nut" from prison claiming he's sick. Even a fool can see what's going on here.
Gogo is a true political soldier she can stand on her feet but please go to pension so that duduzane can also do the same work as u did for 27 years
Ramaphosa should reshuffle hus cabinet and remove such people from his cabinet
The problem with the South African electoral system is that we vote for the party. Not the individual. I was going to vote for you.
Sophie at times your questioning is captured
She is wasted!!!
dont know that sabc is captured by the beast? remember when he sent soldiers to media house?
The politics are very dynamic and a leader must submit & raise concerns procedurally
Well done Mama Dr Nkosazana for your attitude
You supposed to raise those questions internally
Discipline members follows the internal process not orther way round
A strong mama indeed
DR you don't have to explain about your family. Don't give media the opportunity to sell .
Voted with the oppositons but ended nowhere . Rama- rama survived .
Miss Lindiwe susulu ANC is not a family party doesn't mean if your father been in a struggle you should do as wish
Ooh Mama, a woman of substance. That's a history in the making indeed. Your contiuous truly reflect who you are.
Why doesn't this journalist ask the ANC if it is true what she is saying that not all members were allowed to speak. If she is telling the truth then she has a point. All she is asking for is for Ramaphosa to be given a chance to clear his name
Now that a different president is in power, partyline voting must not be observed. Wonderful that people start following their moral values; snakes in the grass!!!
Will she ban cigarettes again.....? Whatever happened to her son after he was caught with a warehouse full of cigarettes during covid? Strange hey?
The report does not say the president must go, but wena Nkosazana you said the president must go.
I was sad when she did not serve her full term at the AU, she is qualified for a position at any global or continental institution. She represented our country well when she was Foreign Affairs Minister years ago.
She was stealing to much.
But does not show that leadership in her country
@@zukimagwentshu2065 you have it wrong, she provided leadership when she was Minister of Health and Minister of Home Affairs. The problem with South Africa we are too polarized, because NDZ is a former wife of former president JG Zuma does not necessarily means her struggle and political credentials must be overlooked. The world is not only black or white, there's a lot of grey. In spite if how he enabled state capture, JG Zuma is the president who helped this country address the HIV/Aids pandemic.
The chief corruptor of the ANC is Gwede Mantashe, let this man go and you will see, it will be easy and possible to fix the organization
The whole ANC must re- Organise itself. I don’t even want to say it must go because there is nobody to take over.
U Gwede akusiyu baba imenemene loyamuntu.
Before Mama NDZ became a politician,she was South African.She voted as a South African,on behalf of South Africans, and not a political party.I doff my hat to her!!
Exactly
True.
MUCH LOVE AND RESPECT FOR YOU MAMA! WE SALUTE YOU FOR YOUR BRAVERY AND FOR THINKING WITH YOUR MIND NOT YOUR STOMACH!!
You salute her shame very disgusting
@@velebantu4890 He salutes all the criminals
@@velebantu4890 u r suffering from anti Zulu syndrome 😂 this women exposed ANC she did the right thing
Not surprised by her attitude here. Refusing to clarify her previous position just says it all. RET movement shows two parties in one. Two bulls in one kraal and the whole country suffer and let us never forget what happened to the country in July 2021 when SA was dealt a heavy blow economically and putting the stability of SA in doubt to the potential investors.
You know very well that you won't get the numbers then you choose the external to converse the ground
Now it's time to resign girl well done
NDZ is a True Patriotic South African...#Peace Makers
Disagreed she's a snake and very dangerous
Udadobawo Sophie had not answered your question about Nkandla report. Why was she not as vocal as she is now on this phalaphala report? We want to know.
Nice furniture, while many ANC supporters sleep under cardboard
I respect the way she voted but the only problem i have with her during President Zuma's time she voted on the party line to support PRESIDENT Zuma. This is double standard.
And she mentioned that consistency is important but she's not consistency...she supported her ex husband who was facing motion of no confidence and she didn't use her conscience
Our leader Cadre has failed the organise that deploy her there. The NDZ Agenda was not dislogde at all. Democratic centralism then must not be narrowly definite or to suit a particular narritive. Unity is sacrosant
I now knw why she did what she did during COVID
And what is that?
I'm not a ANC member but I would remove such a person who vote against the party hired her and she's very dangerous to the party
Listening is a skill that is not possessed by everyone.
She's not trustworthy, she doesn't have solid reason, this is anger
Is vry painful to see how ANC opponents against its own members im no suprice to see her alone on party be careful of ANC
Factionalism, Complete ignorance and laziness is the problem in ANC.
Why you talk about matters relating ANC outside the organization if you are discipline
Indeed, a female president might be just what we need now-someone who disagrees with the majority when needed and with a sound explanation
Too old...
She can't be our President, she's weak and too old. Needs to go back to Nkandla.
this woman is very honest when she was was minister of homeaffairs ,homeffairs was working perfectly and it was so amazing i really like her a lot
She was quiet during Zuma term. Don't fool us you zulus
😂 😂 😂 😂 @True Gospel
@@truegospel4065 She was the Chair of the AU Commission at the time. She was not based in South Africa. Don't be lazy to think and tribalize issues.
She is not Honest, has no intergrety. She is just pushing her own Agenda's, if she was this firm with her J. ZUMA then I would believe that she is genuine. She defended Zuma till the End.
@@sphiwechauke8614 I am wondering if our observations and analysis are well grounded....it appears as if the public is also cognitively compromised the same way politicians are. It is an understandable behaviour for politicians by the way, they are on duty, making a living, but what is wrong with supporters? Tribalistic, narrow minded and biased views and compromised opinions....How can anyone consider any politicians to be a person of intergrity?
I knew stratcom media will attack, vilify and punish this woman before even the ANC processes...our journalists are very subjective and disappointing nxaa.
Poor journalist
@@abongiled Yes, Dlamini-Zuma can be biased and subjective against Ramaphosa but Derek Hanekom and others did this in 2017 against Zuma voted with opposition no expulsion or punishment threats or media attacks instead they were praised..Double standards 🤔
She must go and look after her grandchildren not to destroy organization only because of her loving husband
When she speaks you can't help but question her IQ. The presenter sounds even worse
Unfortunately when it comes to democracy majority rules.
Indeed this Sophie often descends to the political arena, what a shame. She claims to be a journalist but journalism has a problem of selling a narrative than getting the facts presented to the people.
Well it shows that there is no unity in the ANC it shows that there is jealousy President Ramaphosa should stay put the majority of the ANC ministers is corrupt deal with those who is involved in STATE CAPTURE they should be charged and thrown into JAIL the money should be confiscated it is time for the old timers to retired but no they all trying to be President of South Africa for one point only not to better the lives of South Africans but for 1 purpose only to enrich themselves and their families remember our 1st vote 1994 we South Africans were promised a better life but what did we get worse than what we had before Unemployment was never this bad Crime out of proportion
SHAME ON YOU ANC SHAME ON YOU you have let us down badly
THE ONLY PERSON WHO WAS PENALIZED WAS THE REVEREND ALLAN BOESAK SHAME ON YOU ANC SHAME ON YOU ANC YOU WANTED IT ALL
I personally don't see anything wrong. People voted and its over.
she came to an interview having taken a position about Dr Nkosaza definitely not neutral
Mama DLAMINI ZUMA for President 💪🏽
What the fq. She's a one of the thieves .
Mxm what president
she didn't vote with opposition, although one would not be wrong to think she did...she sat next to the opposition.
Pravin was sitting next to Steinhuisen🤔
She did
@@thembimakhubela956 ls Pravin a she now?
@@themba4466 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She sat next to Pravin who was summoned to come back home by Baba.
Excellent impartial and no fear interviewer.
VIVA NDZ VIVA ✊💃💖
Mama NDZ that was not your vote,it was ubaba Duduzane's vote. NDZ is JZs ears and eyes in the ANC and we all know JZs stance on the phala phala issue.
Bye bye Gogo Zupta 😂u can try an spin url morality, but many won't be fooled by ur mere words, 🇿🇦☺️🙏
Dlamini zuma in Nkandla scandal why did she vote on the party line but today but today she vote against we don't need leader that will divide the party
She's a definitely a strong woman when it's suitable for her.
Nonetheless I do think she'd be a great leader
As citizens we require them to stand on their own merit, and we be the judges
She is a women of stature. discipline in all corners of life.
Well if stealing is a discipline you are for a big surprise...
Mama NDZ doesn't look independent, especially at the backdrop of the way Nkandla seems to be using her.
As long as she's not used by the enemies of the black nation
@@tetyanaphikolomzi6886 the very black leaders who looted the SOEs in the name of RET. The very ones who have allowed our infrastructure to collapse in their watch. It's a matter of time before blacks SAns they claim to represent takes rickety boats to Europe for better lives. Mxm!!
What a shallow minded thinking.
Gogo and others has done her part now. Time to rest and mentor the youth, contribute from there not from Union buildings😬
So her excuse is the way the meeting was conducted,Nice 😏
It is a shame that some members of ANC promote tribalism .
You are not wrong. It's your choice to vote. I don't understand why you are interviewed .
Based on the explanation by the minister, I am disappointed by the kind of questioning and referencing by the reporter. This is the same line of questioning by Mgabi. They just want to pin the minister unjustly. Her explanation is clear.
The media needs to recruit reporters not this joke.
This interview would have been better if it wasn't the lady interviewing her.....
Unnecessary introduction Sophie
What was her voting pattern during her husband presidency? Did she voted differently or she agreed with the party line? Was the party line then correct?
Is she a journalist or what, to me it seems she's working for the Ruperts
She wants to president so bad. She was happy when Zuma used Government money for Nkandla. Hypocrisy.
Why not, anyone has a right to aspire as a president
@@gracenyoni9195 yes but it shouldn't affect yr voting when you are not president
Didn't vote with the opposition "yes" but the ultimate result of the vote support the course of opposition. "Weaken ANC"
That money is Ramaphosa ,from a already operating business not like money stolen from state ,like what Big head was doing ,it's like you are in the same Camp
I strongly believe that NDZ is biased. The very way of voting used in Phala Phala report, she should have used during Nkandla report. I think she's out.
She is way past her shelf life. They need to retire Mamazol asap. She has been leadership position in both ANC and government has achieved nothing significant. She needs to face the DC and excommunicated. She suddenly has developed a conscience while she previously called for disciplining those who voted with their conscience against the RET thief-in-chief, her ex-husband, former president Zuma. She must GO!
But is the party-line always correct and always right, if I was wrong yesterday does it mean today I cannot be right, or if I m right today, m I going to be forever right....if not then I salute this honourable stand.....
She never raise a complain about her x husband on looting and destroying sa economy
Why this one
Parliament didn't ask
You are right she is totally discombobulated.She was a disgrace at the African Union.
You have a small mind
@@sandilentshangase621 better than you -0 meaning you don't even know your name
I take off my hat for you Mama❤❤❤
Hei Pontsho ha otsebe batho ba Natala wena ba batla South Africa ebuswe ke bona feela Ka boshodu
I did not know until recently, but she is one of the strongest leaders we have in SA because she makes a success of any departments she has taken responsibility of. Not everyone in the ANC is a bad apple. I respect her voting with her conscience. This is democracy.
Gogo stay at home for ever please
Wowu interviewed bias RET journalist Sophie Mokeana🤣🤣🤣
Do you know what is RET
NEVER NEVER NEVER will she be our president.... She MUST resign and go enjoy her pension....
Buy a rocking chair and enjoy your old age... STOP
Why Sophie this was not a big deal when Pravin Gordhan & Co did the same?
Zuma legacy against President Ramaphosa
Dlamini u want cyril out that u can take over pls go home ND retire ND go play wit ur g children ur time is long overdue
@sandrabrandt4632 True and agree 1000%👌👍👌
Rama is a grandpa too moss..your hate
These are true revolutionaries.pan afracanist
She actually has a lot of credibility than any woman in the ANC.
True
The reporter is not constructive to her questions, She talks a lot and ask a small question which needs one answer word.
The minister did the correct thing for representing the nationals by forting for section 89.
As this report did not accused the or say the President must be fired.
Power Mama Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma 🙌 uNkulunkulu akukhusele njalo kulamaqili kaANC alwa neqiniso labantu.
Shame that nyess didn't work. She's very embarrassed