Phala Phala Debate | MPs vote on the Section 89 panel report

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • Minister of Cooperative Governance and Traditional Affairs, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma, has voted in favour of the establishment of an impeachment committee. Voting in the National Assembly was done manually after MPs debated whether to adopt the Section 89 panel report, which found that President Cyril Ramaphosa may have a case to answer after the foreign currency was stolen from his Phala Phala farm two years ago. Dlamini-Zuma broke ranks and ignored party voting instructions. She was followed by Supra Mahumapelo, Mervyn Dirks and Mosebenzi Zwane, while Minister Lindiwe Sisulu left the chamber during the voting time and hence did not vote. Tandi Mahambehlala changed her vote to No, saying her first vote was incorrectly captured.
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Комментарии • 287

  • @TataKaZuri
    @TataKaZuri Год назад +63

    May South Africans take note of all those who said "NO".

    • @khaltsharivist365
      @khaltsharivist365 Год назад +1

      What difference will that make? You don’t vote for the individuals but the party and it’s for the party to add or remove them from the party list. You have no visibility or influence on that.

    • @kagisorlm8385
      @kagisorlm8385 Год назад +1

      @@khaltsharivist365 Technically, it does make a difference... It's almost exclusively the entire ANC cabinet that voted "NO"

  • @obedobedience3706
    @obedobedience3706 Год назад +18

    People are voting for their stomach not for the interest of the people of RSA. Our prayer is let every concealed corruption deeds be exposed.

  • @Chelaa3434
    @Chelaa3434 Год назад +42

    This guy is Confident 😂😂😂Got my vote juju

  • @enerstmichael
    @enerstmichael Год назад +41

    ANC ministers 😂😂😂..speaking for their stomachs 😏😏

  • @mutshidzirambau4285
    @mutshidzirambau4285 Год назад +7

    😂 Speaker saying that you don't get intimidated easily doesn't assure that you are not intimidated

  • @shanelottering5090
    @shanelottering5090 Год назад +12

    Maybe that is why the dollars were kept in a sofa , for emergencies like this …

  • @verntheories2.020
    @verntheories2.020 Год назад +11

    What in the old age home is going on in the anc

  • @olefilwedintwe7905
    @olefilwedintwe7905 Год назад +9

    In 2024 all South Africans should vote NO for the ANC and let them feel what we are feeling with their NO vote.

    • @solomzikoeberg8130
      @solomzikoeberg8130 Год назад

      U vote no for the ANC, don't tell South Africans how to vote

    • @raimantsiea8581
      @raimantsiea8581 Год назад

      Who are you telling us what we should do and who do you think you are..

    • @goodluckvictor7421
      @goodluckvictor7421 Год назад

      ​@@raimantsiea8581foolish citizens who always votes corrupt individuals.Poor South Africa

  • @tebogogladystladi7129
    @tebogogladystladi7129 Год назад +8

    Do they ever think of the God's commandments.
    1. Thou shall not steal
    2.Thou shall not lie
    3.Thou shall not kill.
    4.Love your brother as you love yourself.

    • @noziphogazi2093
      @noziphogazi2093 Год назад

      Zuma. Thou shall.not steal. Eskom is sinking today. Zuma stole from us and Phala phala sold his own cows and they stole from him. Yayvi nto. Zuma a fat thief. Ntloko yet yetapile

  • @lansmgroup6540
    @lansmgroup6540 Год назад +9

    Come voting time i vote No for anc

  • @sthehkhubisa8862
    @sthehkhubisa8862 Год назад +22

    We as South Africans, would like the governing party to fulfilled their decades promises . We are sick and tired of deceiving by them just like previous decades.

    • @mundusuys8739
      @mundusuys8739 Год назад +7

      Vote for another party. That's how it works - they promised, you voted, they failed you, you fire them. Or is there something wrong with your brain?

    • @gstar3569
      @gstar3569 Год назад +1

      Its easy dont vote for the ANC

    • @thapelomorare1484
      @thapelomorare1484 Год назад +1

      Until you vote, you'll realize apartheid it's possible again and until you vote you'll realize to be like Zimbabwe it's possible.

  • @thorn9044
    @thorn9044 Год назад +16

    Whistle blowers and those who stand against criminals and corruption are at risk

  • @hafeniyamateu6669
    @hafeniyamateu6669 Год назад +22

    Why would a speaker decide how should elected members of parliament should cast their votes mostly on a very serious matter such as this?

    • @jedidiahmacasky2980
      @jedidiahmacasky2980 Год назад +3

      It's just a joke parliament. I see foolishness

    • @arivaldomona8310
      @arivaldomona8310 Год назад

      To take advantage of winning

    • @khaltsharivist365
      @khaltsharivist365 Год назад +1

      Because parliament gave her those powers.

    • @DJ_Ndiks
      @DJ_Ndiks Год назад

      If you have something to hide you would want a secret vote. If you don't have anything to hide you won't have a problem with the speaker deciding on how to vote public or secret.🗳

    • @yellowdiamondrocks
      @yellowdiamondrocks Год назад

      Mxm

  • @sonwabilemzimkhulu6868
    @sonwabilemzimkhulu6868 Год назад +11

    ANC is full adult that's why never progress

  • @thandicindi6413
    @thandicindi6413 Год назад +13

    Corruption is a disease 🦠

  • @zolamvelase9176
    @zolamvelase9176 Год назад +7

    Julius will tell you straight

  • @bulelanimemela8329
    @bulelanimemela8329 Год назад +15

    all the crooks are protecting the bigger crook

  • @bonganibongs4335
    @bonganibongs4335 Год назад +6

    This ANC members are just protecting their jobs

  • @arivaldomona8310
    @arivaldomona8310 Год назад +10

    I think that there must be a demand for the fulfilment of the constitution. People are acting on the fear and selfishness. The country (the full population) must be taken into consideration and not some childish desires (acting in the innocence fellings). A president of a real country can never do what Ciril Sir did.... 👀👀

  • @suhailzn
    @suhailzn Год назад +12

    DID url see how Sisulu ran away left NDZ hanging 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mzozukofuba29
      @mzozukofuba29 Год назад

      Mamu Zuma was not hanging dont be stupid the woman is rich in mind

    • @noziphogazi2093
      @noziphogazi2093 Год назад

      That stupid ran away and left the other old stupid Mamu Zuma. She was.like a tortoise when it was done for Zuma. Stupid old Mama Zuma

  • @hlumelomelo1829
    @hlumelomelo1829 Год назад +10

    These corrupt politicians

  • @1986aurora
    @1986aurora Год назад +10

    Can we call this a "' FAILED STATE"' yet ? US the people , the TAX PAYERS , the PEOPLE who are meant to be represented by these ppl , feel FAILED !!!!!!!!!!!! BY THE STATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @musandasikhwivhilu
    @musandasikhwivhilu Год назад +14

    If you want to see how cruel leaders of political parties are, let any member of EFF vote against the desire of its leader let alone clap hands for the ANC. Did he expel a member for accepting condolences money?

  • @_SLADE
    @_SLADE Год назад +7

    We got the whole payroll for ANC with the “NO”! 😂😂😂

  • @ayaya123451
    @ayaya123451 Год назад +6

    Guys these ANC people are gun pointed by an invisible Gun on their heads!! I really feel for them

    • @sivuyilentsunguzi8529
      @sivuyilentsunguzi8529 Год назад

      Do you know Julius will fight for them until secret ballot and will win u will c, were doing this to Zuma but after secret won.

    • @mcdollard7469
      @mcdollard7469 Год назад

      Invisible gun for real

  • @ntsanepetrus852
    @ntsanepetrus852 Год назад +6

    Waar was Lindiwe Sisulu Zuma,sy het Nkosazana DZ allenige gelos.

  • @edwinmasaila9328
    @edwinmasaila9328 Год назад +11

    Circus voting

  • @princengomane6450
    @princengomane6450 Год назад +42

    Dlamini Zuma She brave and proven integrity even in the dark clouds….
    For the fact that is the only one stood against all odds and differ that is amazing

    • @thembamotaung9134
      @thembamotaung9134 Год назад +7

      But you must also remember that she supported her ex-husband when parliament voted on the Nkandla saga, do you also call that bravery

    • @khayadongo8252
      @khayadongo8252 Год назад +1

      Does two wrongs make right?, If you were once wrong, it doesn't mean that you always have to be wrong.

    • @rickyseponye7164
      @rickyseponye7164 Год назад +2

      She put her country first b4 her Anc & her position

    • @lyndenhall6754
      @lyndenhall6754 Год назад

      @@thembamotaung9134 you are indeed a revengeful simpleton...she is more brave than all your feebleminded ancestors

    • @khulekanimhlongo4210
      @khulekanimhlongo4210 Год назад

      SHE. IS A SELL OUT. SHE. HATES OUR. PRESIDENT BECAUSE. HE. DEFEATED. HER. IN A BALLOT. HOW CAN YOU. VOTE. TO. IMPEAGH YOUR. OWN. PRESSIDENT

  • @jacobmokwena6764
    @jacobmokwena6764 Год назад +3

    You can tell, from ANC member, who wanted to say yes but said no. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @lolomkwanazi6954
    @lolomkwanazi6954 Год назад +7

    This party haena polelo pele. I like how they have been given a long rope n they bizi killing themselves. Dear time u r great.

  • @moshemalatji995
    @moshemalatji995 Год назад +7

    When you watch this you understand why people need to vote, voter turnout is always disappointing and we are seeing the effects of that.

  • @uncensored2282
    @uncensored2282 Год назад +5

    what a joke.

  • @SunSetSundaes
    @SunSetSundaes Год назад +3

    We shall remember those who go said no when we go to vote😢

  • @TKITB
    @TKITB Год назад +1

    ANC acts like they are alone in this state

  • @materenemolaoa1752
    @materenemolaoa1752 Год назад +15

    Love how Juju is able to articulate himself so well through his anger.

  • @kingcarlo3178
    @kingcarlo3178 Год назад +3

    ANC must go the all criminals

  • @akhiazee6580
    @akhiazee6580 Год назад +7

    what's going on in SOUTH AFRICA

  • @leratojay849
    @leratojay849 Год назад +4

    If we were really United we were gng to vote DA but they also look after their own its about race n not the nation so sad to b in RSA

    • @DracoOG285
      @DracoOG285 Год назад

      If you are black and you vote for a white man to rule over you. You deserve everything bad in your life. DA is a racist party that shouldn't rule in a black country

  • @ndinacaringhand9192
    @ndinacaringhand9192 Год назад +2

    This was wrong, this NO people is like they are playing.

  • @drtalkboxsa9412
    @drtalkboxsa9412 Год назад +3

    I was waiting for Naledi Pandoor s No in that “nice” English

    • @M-T1
      @M-T1 Год назад

      Hong Hong 🤣

  • @selulekompisane5672
    @selulekompisane5672 Год назад +13

    This just shows that if ANC wanted the people of Azania to have their land back they could make it happen.

    • @khaltsharivist365
      @khaltsharivist365 Год назад

      No they can’t, they were defeated this time last year trying to amend section 25 of the constitution. They could not get 2/3 majority with DA & EFF amongst others voting against the amendment. Yes there was a time when it was mechanically possible but not now, that boat has long sailed. Mbeki delivered for ANC 2/3rd majority to change constitution and Zuma squandered it…2024 might be coalition government and that will come with its own challenges about who gets to eat first.
      Thomas Sowell has these wonderful nuggets, “Politics is the art of making your selfish desires seem like national interest”…”no one will ever really understand politics until they understand that politicians are not trying to solve our problems. They are trying to solve their own problems - of which getting elected and re-elected are #1 and #2. Whatever is #3 is far behind.

    • @zabadackakaHansCoche
      @zabadackakaHansCoche Год назад

      Will they give the land to the Khoi/San....I doubt it.

  • @sanelisonduduzo5411
    @sanelisonduduzo5411 Год назад +3

    This people there are afraid to lose their job that's all.

  • @blorovblorovala8035
    @blorovblorovala8035 Год назад +18

    We knew Zuma Zuma Nkandla will be yes

  • @wisemanmbuyazi8191
    @wisemanmbuyazi8191 Год назад +2

    You should have asked the speaker to read the rules she read before the voting. The rule spoke of those who may not have voted, not corrections of the votes

  • @blorovblorovala8035
    @blorovblorovala8035 Год назад +7

    Zwane Gupta family

  • @mr.s.f.m.beleni6696
    @mr.s.f.m.beleni6696 Год назад +3

    President Malema 🔥💯🌟

  • @shanemabaso8092
    @shanemabaso8092 Год назад +3

    We will show u come 2024

    • @fxwic5072
      @fxwic5072 Год назад

      But lets converse and decide on who we are voting for. United we are strong.

    • @omphilwemoja3813
      @omphilwemoja3813 2 месяца назад

      we showed them

  • @ERICK.8099
    @ERICK.8099 Год назад +3

    Hope has been lost for this parliament as long as Ramaphosa remains president

  • @vellynjovane1603
    @vellynjovane1603 Год назад +1

    Yes

  • @jedidiahmacasky2980
    @jedidiahmacasky2980 Год назад +4

    This is a joke!

  • @FI-xc1ug
    @FI-xc1ug Год назад

    South Africans should do what the ANC has demonstrated.Unify behind an opposition, vote with a common goal so can rid our nation of the rot that has built up...its like a ingrown toenail at this point. Useless n painful.😮

  • @eitzenbrian7666
    @eitzenbrian7666 Год назад +1

    So what were they going to achieve by votiog yes. The ANC would simply install a even more corrupt person if Ramaphose was forced to step down. I am mo fan of the ANC

  • @Mfethu
    @Mfethu Год назад +3

    You’d think these are smart people…

  • @mcacadiwentombinamathanboa4435
    @mcacadiwentombinamathanboa4435 Год назад +5

    Ingabe nifakelwe malini lamaxoki adayisa ngezwe lethu.

  • @jaymorgan1928
    @jaymorgan1928 Год назад +3

    Voting processes flawed

  • @edith_booi
    @edith_booi Год назад +1

    Im worried about tha jobs of those ANC members who voted yes... They have just made tha biggest mistake of their lives🤣

  • @commandathypolite583
    @commandathypolite583 Год назад +1

    Corrupted MPs,how can this peoples staying close to each others while just saying no, others will be intimidate.

  • @josephmulenga2017
    @josephmulenga2017 Год назад +8

    The speaker was foolish to let mps voting openly and speaker new how to gave anc advantage

    • @sauljunior6510
      @sauljunior6510 Год назад +3

      Dude. It was rigged from the get go. These people make me sick

  • @mzwakhe3219
    @mzwakhe3219 Год назад +4

    Where do they get these speakers Mara?

  • @Mfethu
    @Mfethu Год назад +3

    Abantu abadala kanje nokuphapha nx… country leaders

  • @paddyteknikal.9941
    @paddyteknikal.9941 Год назад +1

    The fundamentals of Democracy, my X should be a silent one when voting not for the whole world to know. Guys be careful of this Administration thats why we are sitting with Stage 6 LoadShedding because of No. we need to pray for this.

  • @thando_t1723
    @thando_t1723 Год назад +2

    I just saw sheeps ANC

  • @sizwengqanga4526
    @sizwengqanga4526 Год назад +2

    On Point man On Ponit,look at the faces of opposition they can smell the Truth.

  • @givenmatsimela4531
    @givenmatsimela4531 Год назад +1

    However the whole party must be removed out of power

  • @lifeofpablo10
    @lifeofpablo10 Год назад +1

    We ruled by fooled and childish old people.

  • @nalacele731
    @nalacele731 Год назад +2

    Nathi sithi no ANC on 2024

    • @eliasmabusethabane
      @eliasmabusethabane Год назад

      we need to🚩🚩 this🚉🚉🚎, NO To ANC ON 2024 elections till to♾‼

  • @mbekezelimshumayelimkhonza4984
    @mbekezelimshumayelimkhonza4984 Год назад +1

    ANC, YES TO BREAD AND NO TO CONSTITUTION OF SOUTH AFRICA. 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @DJ_Ndiks
    @DJ_Ndiks Год назад +8

    It's Obvious Most of these ANC members are voting No because they are Afraid to lose their jobs. Big ups to Mam' u Nkosazana Zuma. We must stand up for the truth no matterwhat. The truth shall set you free.

  • @geelbookie1011
    @geelbookie1011 2 месяца назад

    It ended in tears. No more outright majority to shield corruption. Voters showed who the real boss is 🤣🤣🤣, Arrogance iphelile. Time to pay!!

  • @thokozanimbuyisa664
    @thokozanimbuyisa664 Год назад +3

    Disgrace worse from old grannies and grandfathers kuvotwa ngathi kuse eHolo lomphakathi elokshini 😃

  • @siyabongasothole1674
    @siyabongasothole1674 Год назад +2

    Hawu she ran???🤣😂🤣

  • @209536645
    @209536645 Год назад +1

    This is a JOKE

  • @mandlabinca6680
    @mandlabinca6680 Год назад

    I voted for ANC for a long time but I have achieved nothing, no decent work no RDP house and so forth,but no one to blame, how about I become a member of parliament I thought the members of parliament are very dignified people but when I look at them and how they speak I think I can fit to the ANC part.

  • @lancencube5205
    @lancencube5205 Год назад +12

    I ANC ibolile

  • @SixGujama
    @SixGujama Год назад

    You can see that the county is going nowhere with such an elderly leadership who should be enjoying their pension and also their are liers 🤔🤔what a shame it is

  • @thulanidngubane8603
    @thulanidngubane8603 Год назад

    Malema looks weird in red. He can look awesome in orange 👁️

  • @zolamvelase9176
    @zolamvelase9176 Год назад

    Disgusting why can't they just say a simple descent No or Yes....fooling around

  • @mashaojames2936
    @mashaojames2936 Год назад +1

    I hate oppression

  • @bazillazee9414
    @bazillazee9414 Год назад +3

    Mazuptaholo is no surprise

  • @yoliswababa313
    @yoliswababa313 Год назад +10

    My gosh! We're not gonna rest due to this vuvuzela called Malema 🙄

    • @davidmotlaloe5628
      @davidmotlaloe5628 Год назад

      You really understand him better. Vuvuzela😂😂

    • @sauljunior6510
      @sauljunior6510 Год назад

      You are so blind

    • @davidmotlaloe5628
      @davidmotlaloe5628 Год назад

      @@sauljunior6510 his followers are.they don’t even realize many contradictory statements he made in exuberance of his verbosity

    • @senzovincent1038
      @senzovincent1038 Год назад

      @Vs aka the sinner : Leave Malema alone wena Vuvuzela ndini. He is not your class. You are just a wannabe like any Tom, Dig naboHarry. Gee Pad Jou Vuvuzera

  • @fxwic5072
    @fxwic5072 Год назад

    When do we start discussing how we are all voting come 2024? I think an open discussion will allow us to have a way forward and not speculate or have doubts. Whatever party we decide on be it EFF, ActionSA, DA or even the same ANC. Let's discuss and move united.

  • @banzimakiva5847
    @banzimakiva5847 Год назад +2

    ANC yam it's old stuff

  • @kagisorlm8385
    @kagisorlm8385 Год назад +3

    Gore nkabe ke na le bazooka...

  • @cosmosxolane1093
    @cosmosxolane1093 Год назад +5

    I like the speaker, she is very beautiful. i have never seen such a beautiful old lady. Politics aside😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @blorovblorovala8035
    @blorovblorovala8035 Год назад +5

    Awww Mandela ✌️😅😅😅

  • @nhlanhlakeith1356
    @nhlanhlakeith1356 Год назад

    All culprits "NO"

  • @zaminhlanhlasimphiwe1186
    @zaminhlanhlasimphiwe1186 Год назад +1

    shame on you its unbelivable what no what are u defending i dont understand

  • @lifeofpablo10
    @lifeofpablo10 Год назад +1

    This is a joke. ANC is a joke

  • @mydokabila9312
    @mydokabila9312 Год назад

    Europe Global Justice Big NO

  • @fahloledibakass2450
    @fahloledibakass2450 Год назад

    ANC is aged party. cemetery is nearer.

  • @mooshsaidi7351
    @mooshsaidi7351 Год назад +3

    When you are part of the group of thieves...

  • @mohammadiqbal6688
    @mohammadiqbal6688 Год назад +2

    Italy minori testimoni un grandissimo mal nostro vita

  • @mohammadiqbal6688
    @mohammadiqbal6688 Год назад +2

    Italy natale un grandissimo big fector schoola bambini tutti

  • @zolamvelase9176
    @zolamvelase9176 Год назад +2

    Mahambe lala😅 I cant

    • @mthunzie
      @mthunzie Год назад

      He did it on purpose 🤣🤣🤣

  • @simplysasa1818
    @simplysasa1818 Год назад

    Imagine if all people voted loke this🤮

  • @waltervetri2476
    @waltervetri2476 Год назад

    So it means you do get intimidated, just not easily. What's grest about that lexicon in semantics meant to be to us? Us meaning ordinary people., just so that you are not intimidated. This Parliament is weird.

  • @ibrahimfarha3853
    @ibrahimfarha3853 Год назад

    Eff so active in everything

  • @guycunliffe7633
    @guycunliffe7633 Год назад

    "party line" 23:04 and mahambelala 59:40

  • @sthembilekhanyile4118
    @sthembilekhanyile4118 Год назад +1

    Ngiyi anc impela kodwa cha ukukhwabanisa sesadlula ngakho and silimaza iqembu ngo2024 abantu abazosivotela siyizigehengu beku wine oyes kulamavote

  • @mcdollard7469
    @mcdollard7469 Год назад

    It's a shame choosing their seats. Hiyooooooo