I enjoy watching Xoli's informed style iof questioning...he is a great journo, not fluffly rushing to question. Always well prepared in his execution of work ❤
Strong questions! Fortunately this woman is a competent PP! Should there be the suspended PP, I don't think could handle these questions! She is in the point I use to say: No evidences! Even FRASER wasn't able to supply evidences! They should work out well this case before moving prematurely! Now, let us see how MALEMA and Company will present the claim before the court.
As an Aside ... I am so pleased that The Reporter and host has integrity and calls out BS when they see it. We need more people who have Good Faith Ethics and Moral Worth and value. WELL DONE @Newzroom Afrika .SAfrica is not just criminals. SALUTE
if the President was not aware that money was kept in a sofa, why did he give illegal's instruction to recover the stolen money and why was it not reported to the policy
We can also be compromised because of the outcome we expected. The lady stuck within the PP's mandate according to rules. Unlike Mkhwebane, she does not have personal issues with the president.
Investigation means they should know the right and wrong. Since she sees nothing wrong the office needs to be questioned. So she have to answer according to her office findings. The interviewer knows about the farm currently and all credit goes to him cause he really knows his job unfortunately she is answering in a way that makes her bites her own tail.
She was lying lying, all lies but she is good at it, well trained, well informed as if she works at PhalaPhala herself kodwa I totally understand chances are that she was given that PP Office specifically for these exact reasons
On paragraph hh APP you said, you found that the President had more involvement than he speculated on his affidavit. But, you still did not find him in the wrong.
The presidents protector not public protector and listening to this she clearly thinks we're stupid ! How can Ramaphosa be a active participant in the farm but recieve NOTHING ? - This will not end well for this lady
Please listen carefully to her and download the law to make a proper judgement! She clearly said that under the PP's jurisdiction it is all about state matters only in terms of the President's conduct. Not all wrong actions from the President or anyone else is in contravention of a code of conduct. She said that no evidences exist. Why MALEMA and Company don't ask FRASER to provide such evidences. Get evidences and take to the PP for conduct issues and submit to the NPA for criminal action. If there is no evidences, then, don't blame her.
@@thefairobserver97 😅She says there’s no evidence of the presidents involvement in the cash however the president is the one who gave instruction to have the money recovered ,never mind that it was not false that there was US DOLLARS on that farm - We are being distracted by the law here ,because there isn’t any denial that dollars were on the farm - the true question is how and why that much foreign currency ended up on a farm/bussines that is linked to the president ? Since when is it legal to trade in dollars in SA especially money that has not been declared at SARS or any official point of entry (airport or harbour)? - We are being told the president is innocent BUT the fact that there’s a bussines trading in foreign currency in cash in SA is enough “evidence” to probe this matter forward
@@sifisodube4686 Wakhuluma Dub' elimthende! I would be very nonsensical should I have a brain that's full of rubbish, such as that of yours! I don't a wiseman will insult the entire province, for someone who has not identified him/herself as uMZulu! Instead everything that's Zuluism is in your names!
@@sifisodube4686 voetsek, you know you are just real coward, you would never say that to a real KZN man in his face, I bet you a very timid "man" , who is not accepted by real African men
There's insufficient evidence that the President is involved in the day to day running of the farm,but there's sufficient evidence that you want the job of the P.P
@@lungamasuku6872 It started by Cyril himself, Mbalula, Dyantyi, and others are using the same line, I call it, the line of the century, for corrupt ankoles!
Remember, the element of "CONFLICT OF INTERESTS should be established if you have to reach a conclusion that the executive ethics and codes were broken. So, day to day involvement is important for this purpose
@vjchabane9795 Good question. Even for those who seem to think conflict of interest is a function of day to day transactions (activities), where do they get that from?
Who said its not his money? Maybe listen more.. she said, ter is no evidence that Ramaphosa runs the business on a day to day basis, but he is the shareholder and does benefit as a shareholder.. that is allowed. What else are u troubled with?
Gcaleka zwana .... Ramaphosa will not protect you from the wrath of God against all ungodliness and sin ...if anything distance yourself from such conduct ..dont miss Heaven because of criminalilty surrounding this anc government ...God sets on Fire all sin and sinners found outside of CHRIST
@@lungamasuku6872 yes br understand we always not satisfied lk ppl was saying Busi is not doing here job who's goona satisfy us we are like Chippa when changing coach
Moving of the chair she is a symbol of nevours , and starting to realize that she has put her self on fire and ,It is not easy as she thought welldon xoli may god continue to use you
I kind of feel sorry for this young lady!,cause she seems to be a honest person trying her best to justify a obvious lie!!,Cyril really doesn’t care who her step on! And throws such a young black lady under the bus and makes her do his dirty work!!!,this is sad to watch cause she is trouble now!and Cyril will not help her shame😢😢😢😢
Xoli was suppose to ask, where is the Moeny now, since some of it was recovered using the state resources, beause SARS confirmed that to date it was not declared!!
🤣🤣what did we expect from the acting thou in such a big case..lol I guess this what the racist ,own goal specialists Da,call competence and understanding of law😅..when one quote one of the most bogus judgements in the history of this country (CR17)🤣🤣judges claim the president didn’t benefit 😂I wish we had lots of Chief justice Mogoeng who stood for the truth regardless who is faced by the law
We have a public protector in Advocate Gcaleka. What a woman of substance. Knows the law, knows the mistakes the office has made, not willing to repeat them, not easily bullied by biased reporters. I respect her.
Its convenient that no level of involvement was found on part of the president. Do we have records of those conversations between the manager and the president? Because those will determine how involved he was instead of relying on his word.
First time hearing Adv Gcaleka speak and I like her. Very calm, relaxed and confident in the face of very tough questions. My intuition is that she knows what she's talking about and would be a great fit to lead the office of the PP.
She is lying through teeth telling us law is about interpretation when judges already cleared the matter that conflict of interest also includes the potential of conflict not just conflict explicitly. If Cyril was not involved in tue business he was never going to be told about that money. The man does not have to be there everyday to be conflicted only one act can have him found guilty.
Hawu don’t Cry sis😢!!,you messed up but it’s going to be okay,Jesus loves you!and he will be with you in the Hell you put yourself in!!!protecting Cyril comes at a very high cost!,ask those before you!!
Xoli was well prepared this time good work. As members of community we appreciate Bhut X. Acting PP must stop dreaming and go investigate properly. Stop being biased. She's puppet
If the guard dog turns on the flock to protect the wolf, then the flock must treat the guard dog with the same contempt as they do the wolf...and if the Shepherds takes a posture to protect the guard dog in-question, then the flock is in serious trouble...Then only way out is for the flock to transform into Lions
Then arrest everyone who is involved in this case as well as the President because in law, there is what is called respondeat superior. Whether directly or indirectly, the Presidents ferocious acts warrants enough evidence for legal pursuit.
Lol, imagine had she made the same findings as the Busi Mkhwebane, that wouldn't have happened, obviously Cyril had to put someone who'd only question is "how is high?" when Cyril tells her to jump
Technically she ascended to the position when Mkhwebane was suspended since she was her deputy, so the president didn't put her there, let's get our facts correct.🙂
Thing is, you all have made up your mind. Ever thought of why the money was hidden in a sofa, by trusted employees, who then conveniently went to work for Arthur Frazier as soon as they had created pandemonium? Just asking?
@@thorisomalesa6413 LOL very smart of you, I guess the president didn't know who was going to be the acting public protector when he removed Busi. He knew who it was going to be, and he also knew how she was going to handle this matter, obviously by removing Busi he knew his puppet would solve his mess.
@@maburwanemokoena7117 No my brother. if my memory serves me well. the acting PP was once malusi gigaba's advocate or advisor and even when she joined the office of the PP many people were saying she was put there to continue with status quo of RET as malusi gigaba was viewed by many to be helping the guptas to loot. jiki jiki she's the presidents puppet. unlike busi, she took her time to look at all the guidelines in terms of the jurisdiction of the PP office. according to you ke, what must she charge the president with?
King Arthur fraser open the case and just stood back so that people can attack the President. No one is asking or interviewing fraser and asking what sort of evidence did he give?. I can go on and reiterate what @noxolotshangu8055 shared "why is it that the so called former employer at phala phala went to work for fraser", no one is asking this questions and everyone is just clapping hands for Xoli.
She knows the banking accounts will unveil another can of worms because all evidence becomes public domain knowledge one she concludes a case. So she's shielding her corrupt puppet boss from the scrutiny of the public from which he wants votes next year.🐒🐵🙊🙉🙈
Clearly you need financial literacy classes. He has interest in it as a member and director. He has no job there. He owns it out right. So what’s your issue really?
Remember, the president did no selling, it’s the farm that did. According to the law, a business and an individual who owns the business are 2 different entities. Therefore you can’t go after the president for things that the business does in its day to day operations. The farm has staff and he is not one of them. Get it?
@@noxolotshabangu8055 So he hasn't trained and briefed his staff on certain legalities. That does not conform to employment acts and processes. Even at ground level regarding safety procedures. Eg. if the employer didn't provide gloves for the employee and the employee injures or burns his hand , it's the employer's fault coz he failed to provide gloves, ppe and he's legible for a fine or 1 year imprisonment. B.O.S.S - bucket of stinking shyt. 🤣
uCyril udlala ngeNgane yazi!,she just threw away her whole career for Cyril!,lets hope he pays her well atleast!!!,i feel sorry for whoever paid for this childs education,watching her throw away her future for a old man😢
Acting Public Protector is brilliant.,she knows her stuff, she is articulate and factual. She has a bright future, wherever she goes, she has my respect.
Lovely interview and I think we, as the public, need to understand the mandate of the PP, that's to deal with state matters and public funds. The Hawks and reserve bank are the ones largely responsible to investigate the Phala Phala matter. PP spoke very well for herself...
@@bakergovender3291 you are so ryt but this President is above the law I bet the courts will create their own version of event as to what transpires during the transaction & the excuse as to how the dollars were banked under the sofas at Phala farm.This country is turning into the animal farm where the buffalo is treated differently from the rest of the big 5 (Nelson Mandela,Thabo Mbeki,Montlhante & Jacob Zuma he must be a special breed indeed.
"Involvement" doesn't hv to be day-to-day running of the business. Shareholder derives revenue from a business without day-to-day running of the business.
I dnt think she understands tht!! this will go far in history and he name on shame. She just took the words ''The courts are with Ramaphosa" and concluded that she will be protected... now she has to speak like Cyril's spoke person in defense of her report!!! I dnt think she sleeps at night.
Please $580 000 Dollars [R10 000 000] at the current exchange rate, and Mr Ramaphosa was not present or did not know and was not involved in the sale. Do these people think South Africans are stupid?
That's Lady who have become a State Protector or President Cyril Ramaphalaphala instate of being a Public protector the History will absorb her she will be ashame for herself time for her will come
Thank you Mr X for the interview. Great work. Kholeka basically wasted reaources into her investigations because she couldn't provide concrete evidence into their findings. I am still left with a question of what is it the office of the Public Protector was investigating...
@@bandilemichaelncoyini9179 Whatever eyes we are using everything yields to the same conclusion that Gcaleka avoided finding Ramaphosa guilty . If it was you who was found with such an amount of foreign currency in your house you would be sitting in jail by now. That is regardless of whether you are using Zuma's eyes or not. Remember that the amount of money that was hidden under the couch was never declared. That is the eyes of SARS and the Reserve Bank not Zuma
If I heard correctly, it seems like the PP knows that something went wrong but it is not in their jurisdiction as the office since this was a private sale.
Good questions Xoli,this woman is not trustworthy! Look at her body language,shaking her feet under the table! She's under immense pressure & she's gonna be found wanting! She put that office of the P.P in disrepute! Shame on her for being POWER hungry!!!
You don't have to explain. You have a nice, cushy job with excellent pay and privileges. You know that what you earn is way above your actual competency, and you are there at the mercy of the guy you have to investigate... Most people would do the same in your circumstances...
@@Macedonia270 People like you refuse to see the truth, even when it smacks them in the face. Firstly, her investigation ihas to be narrow in this respect because she, by law, can’t investigate private transactions and private accounts. There’s a judgment against the PP for doing that. Further, her office doesn’t deal with currency, it’s clear that the SARB is responsible for those investigations. When you fail to read the actual report, and go picking up stompies on tv, this is the result you get. I read the report twice and going through her substantiations I was satisfied that she carried out her mandate to the hilt. Do yourself a favour and read it, you may change your mind.
@@noxolotshabangu8055 If she found him guilty, she would have been suspended and replaced... If Madontsela was still the PP, she would have found him guilty.
The mandate of the PP is not solely with financial matters of the State as falsely stated by Adv Kholeka Gcaleka. The PP mandate reads as follows "The Public Protector is an independent institution established in terms of section 181 of the Constitution, with a mandate to SUPPORT AND STRENGTHEN CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY. A supreme administrative oversight body, the Public Protector has the power to investigate, report and remedy IMPROPER CONDUCT IN STATE AFFAIRS".
In the end Xoli got her furked when he asked her about the pp job .This is exactly how we end up with corrupt people in jobs of high profile. It's all about the money and fame. These people will sell their souls to the devil. I can see Nandipa junior has concluded her sale of her soul.
Her arguments don't make any sense.cyril lied and said he was gonna put his businesses in a trust so as to avoid all of this but he never did.Owning any business is a 24/7 thing and you're working for yourself so it's nonsensical to say ramaphosa doesn't work at Phalaphala in the broader meaning of the term.
So you imagine Elon Musk going to his office at Tesla daily, running around buying nuts and bolts that are needed? Financial literacy class will help you, really?
@@noxolotshabangu8055 Next time try reading to comprehend and not just to respond.I clearly stated that in the 'briader' context of the term business owners 'work' at their businesses 24/7.And for your knowledge,Elon is not the President of the US and comparing him to cyril or to any president is a misnomer.
@@sthe_zar6341 Right, let’s help you so that you understand. Elon Musk is a business owner, right? Cyril is a business owner, right? Do you not see that parallel? Do you not glean that I am comparing those aspects of their lives, how big business is run? I read and comprehend very well thank you for your misplaced concern, you should ask the English professor who is currently marking my dissertation just how well I know the English language. Not sure 🤔 I can say the same about your fluency in isiXhosa. Point of the matter is, that there are many big business owners who have nothing to do with the operations of their businesses.
@@noxolotshabangu8055 Your friends here are deleting my response because they're pushing the same propaganda that kholeka is pushing to try and protect cyril from being held accountable for his crimes in PhalaFarmGate.You talk about dissertations but you don't know the difference between a stricter and broader interpretation of the concept of work and what this means for the interpretation of the law in SA.The report will be up for review in court and the truth will come out from that!
It was first the deliberate exclusion of the then deputy president on his involvement with glencore by then deputy chief justice, who now is the chief justice. Now is the acting pp , the probabilities favours her to the position permanently. There's was a trade of positions 😂😂😂😂 mathematically
I respect advocate Gcaleka. She knows her work despite the external forces who are trying to confuse her. The report does not exonerate the President, but the Public Protector's mandate does not allow her to do the job for the other organs of the state. Her office did what they are supposed to do and it must end there as they did not find the President having violated the constitution. That the President did not violate the constitution as far as the money of the state, does not mean the President did not do wrong as far his private businesses are concerned. Let's watch the space and see where it will end
I am very concerned by the answers given by the acting PP, she is answering with authority instead of answering on a probability. She is saying for example, "there was no ..." instead of saying "we have no evidence that...". I find it problematic for a legally trained person to answer in the manner that she is doing, it is like listening to Ramaphosa speaking. She's very compromised
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Sharp Questions Xoli thanks for the interview. It's evident that this women is protecting the interest of the ANC
Not the ANC but Cyril
I enjoy watching Xoli's informed style iof questioning...he is a great journo, not fluffly rushing to question. Always well prepared in his execution of work ❤
One of the best in the game
Everything is being investigated but nothing comes from it when it comes to government.
I'm tired with the words BEING INVESTIGATED🙄
So why issue a statement if investigation is still ongoing.
Strong questions! Fortunately this woman is a competent PP! Should there be the suspended PP, I don't think could handle these questions! She is in the point I use to say: No evidences! Even FRASER wasn't able to supply evidences! They should work out well this case before moving prematurely! Now, let us see how MALEMA and Company will present the claim before the court.
Mr Xoli, your quality piece of work is exposing a lot of people
Only in this interview. Sometimes he is very bias
From Public Protector to President's Protector.
I weep for my beloved country
🤕🥺🥺🥺😭 me too
Me too, this is really sad.
Hi yr clrd bros hre. The original title CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY but the same PAIN!
As an Aside ... I am so pleased that The Reporter and host has integrity and calls out BS when they see it. We need more people who have Good Faith Ethics and Moral Worth and value. WELL DONE @Newzroom Afrika .SAfrica is not just criminals. SALUTE
if the President was not aware that money was kept in a sofa, why did he give illegal's instruction to recover the stolen money and why was it not reported to the policy
Because he was told about the burglary, that's how he came to know.
Did he really know the money was in a sofa? Did he give instructions to recover the money? What’s your evidence?
Because the president and his cronies are thieves. easy , best , reasonable answer.
he gave the instruction to you ?
@@tendaisean3736 How boring your response is. Any argument to offer instead of pointless innuendo? Just asking.
it feels like i was listening to the president's spoke person here. The lady is compromised.
Captured
She 3ven knows processes of a farm yhoo a private farm and discussions hayi shame
Spokesperson period 😂😂😂
We can also be compromised because of the outcome we expected. The lady stuck within the PP's mandate according to rules. Unlike Mkhwebane, she does not have personal issues with the president.
Investigation means they should know the right and wrong. Since she sees nothing wrong the office needs to be questioned. So she have to answer according to her office findings. The interviewer knows about the farm currently and all credit goes to him cause he really knows his job unfortunately she is answering in a way that makes her bites her own tail.
Gcaleka so young and already captured and corrupted - Imagine how corrupt she will be at 60
😂😂😂😂😂
😅 She'll be as good as Hillary Clinton
@@objectivenews3604the best South African example is Bathabile Dlamini 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you Colin for exposing the President Protector.
What a mess! Acting PP is not fit to hold office, period.
Amen to that.
I agree
This woman is a clown. Not at all equipped to hold office
This woman really tweaked for Cyril. I will not be surprised if the courts agree with her because Cyril has captured even the judiciary
She was lying lying, all lies but she is good at it, well trained, well informed as if she works at PhalaPhala herself kodwa I totally understand chances are that she was given that PP Office specifically for these exact reasons
She speaks like President’s spoke person not like an investigator!😮
from @12:30 I was cringing 😬😬
@@OkuhleMtilwaKaMjoli only from there? You are quite generous indeed!
Eish ja ne
Hence I'm feeling sorry for her
Wow. So it’s actually activities of money laundering 😢. Thanks Xoli for the informative questions
On paragraph hh APP you said, you found that the President had more involvement than he speculated on his affidavit. But, you still did not find him in the wrong.
She is lying
The presidents protector not public protector and listening to this she clearly thinks we're stupid ! How can Ramaphosa be a active participant in the farm but recieve NOTHING ? - This will not end well for this lady
She is vibrating, shame on this young corrupt lady defending the corrupt system
Please listen carefully to her and download the law to make a proper judgement! She clearly said that under the PP's jurisdiction it is all about state matters only in terms of the President's conduct. Not all wrong actions from the President or anyone else is in contravention of a code of conduct. She said that no evidences exist. Why MALEMA and Company don't ask FRASER to provide such evidences. Get evidences and take to the PP for conduct issues and submit to the NPA for criminal action. If there is no evidences, then, don't blame her.
@@thefairobserver97 😅She says there’s no evidence of the presidents involvement in the cash however the president is the one who gave instruction to have the money recovered ,never mind that it was not false that there was US DOLLARS on that farm - We are being distracted by the law here ,because there isn’t any denial that dollars were on the farm - the true question is how and why that much foreign currency ended up on a farm/bussines that is linked to the president ? Since when is it legal to trade in dollars in SA especially money that has not been declared at SARS or any official point of entry (airport or harbour)? - We are being told the president is innocent BUT the fact that there’s a bussines trading in foreign currency in cash in SA is enough “evidence” to probe this matter forward
THIS GIRL IS OK TO WORK FOR PROTECTION OF RAMAPUSA BUT NOT PP. WE MUST GET THE WRIGHT PP
The only thing that my former crush knows is to speak the language of our colonisers.😭😭😭
Well every body needs to understand what’s it’s being said if you want to remain as a Zulu remain there in Kzn that’s crazy poverty province
@@sifisodube4686 Wakhuluma Dub' elimthende! I would be very nonsensical should I have a brain that's full of rubbish, such as that of yours! I don't a wiseman will insult the entire province, for someone who has not identified him/herself as uMZulu! Instead everything that's Zuluism is in your names!
@@sifisodube4686 🤡
😂😂😂Your crush is disappointing
@@sifisodube4686 voetsek, you know you are just real coward, you would never say that to a real KZN man in his face, I bet you a very timid "man" , who is not accepted by real African men
he asked hard hitting questions without bias and respectfully
From today you are no longer my crush Advocate.😭😭😭😭💔💔💔
I don’t think she cares dude.
i have gained respect for this gentleman.
So do I!!! He has been brilliant!
She's just been very weak also
I like Xoli's line of questioning...
me too👌 is very calm and polite
Iyooo this lady Advocate is a mess
There's insufficient evidence that the President is involved in the day to day running of the farm,but there's sufficient evidence that you want the job of the P.P
😂😂😂😂spot on. These professionals are idiots, compromising their professions😮
Funny enough cyllilinsays it's my farm I make money out of selling ankoles
I was just waiting for her to say those 4 words that everybody on Cyril’s team loves so much“waiting on due process „🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lungamasuku6872 It started by Cyril himself, Mbalula, Dyantyi, and others are using the same line, I call it, the line of the century, for corrupt ankoles!
Common you not making sense don’t attack the lady she’s doing her job, take it on review if you like.
We are not safe in South Africa Public Protector like this.
Who said that paid work is only when there is day-to-day involvement in the farm…
They took in an advocate with a taxi driver's level of comprehension.
Remember, the element of "CONFLICT OF INTERESTS should be established if you have to reach a conclusion that the executive ethics and codes were broken. So, day to day involvement is important for this purpose
Who said it's not?
even if he was not the President, there's no way he was gonna work day-to-day at Phala-Phala
@vjchabane9795
Good question. Even for those who seem to think conflict of interest is a function of day to day transactions (activities), where do they get that from?
So someone sells something on my behalf, but it’s not my money 😂 PP we are not fools…
he is protecting Ramaphosa straight up 😅😅 with all costs, ke stlaela
Yeyeni she think we are grade R
This lady thinks we are mad indeed lol
Who said its not his money? Maybe listen more.. she said, ter is no evidence that Ramaphosa runs the business on a day to day basis, but he is the shareholder and does benefit as a shareholder.. that is allowed. What else are u troubled with?
@@dilochetty9332 thank you for helping them with financial literacy. He is a member and director there, what do people not understand about that?
Gcaleka zwana .... Ramaphosa will not protect you from the wrath of God against all ungodliness and sin ...if anything distance yourself from such conduct ..dont miss Heaven because of criminalilty surrounding this anc government ...God sets on Fire all sin and sinners found outside of CHRIST
It’s too late to save her soul!,unfortunately😢
Xoli well done brother
Gcaleka some ppl want to judge the way they like ntombi do yr job without a fear
But she is not doing her job at all🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lungamasuku6872 yes br understand we always not satisfied lk ppl was saying Busi is not doing here job who's goona satisfy us we are like Chippa when changing coach
I just love the calmness from our Deputy and Acting Public Protector Advocate Kholeka Gcaleka yerrrrrrrrrr yesesssss 👌👌.
Madonsela was soft spoken as well, and while incompetent
You like that she remains calm as she lies to the nation?
@@CommunistRSA Mandonsela? Incompetent? What planet do you live in?
@@vumbhonishandlale46 She’s calm in the face of ill informed people, who are pushing their own agenda. I love that!!
@noxolotshabangu8055 bruv watch madonsela evidence at the section 194 committee re the work she found and left at the organization
President Spokesperson 🤣
Moving of the chair she is a symbol of nevours , and starting to realize that she has put her self on fire and ,It is not easy as she thought welldon xoli may god continue to use you
She could do very well as the President's defence counsel!
I kind of feel sorry for this young lady!,cause she seems to be a honest person trying her best to justify a obvious lie!!,Cyril really doesn’t care who her step on! And throws such a young black lady under the bus and makes her do his dirty work!!!,this is sad to watch cause she is trouble now!and Cyril will not help her shame😢😢😢😢
I mean after Marikana this should be cheese on toast though, right?
This lady is talking a lot of nonsense, such a narrow conclusion..its impossible that there can be an active day to day involvment from Ramabillion
Qualified people allowed themselves to be fooled for money
Like Nandipha,
No offense but haw did these woman get these job😢😢😢
Xoli was suppose to ask, where is the Moeny now, since some of it was recovered using the state resources, beause SARS confirmed that to date it was not declared!!
Pls Sakina can u interview the President Protector i wanna see something...
🤣🤣what did we expect from the acting thou in such a big case..lol I guess this what the racist ,own goal specialists Da,call competence and understanding of law😅..when one quote one of the most bogus judgements in the history of this country (CR17)🤣🤣judges claim the president didn’t benefit 😂I wish we had lots of Chief justice Mogoeng who stood for the truth regardless who is faced by the law
Extreme competence!😂
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 🤣🤣”missis payed work “
We have a public protector in Advocate Gcaleka. What a woman of substance. Knows the law, knows the mistakes the office has made, not willing to repeat them, not easily bullied by biased reporters. I respect her.
Its convenient that no level of involvement was found on part of the president. Do we have records of those conversations between the manager and the president? Because those will determine how involved he was instead of relying on his word.
First time hearing Adv Gcaleka speak and I like her. Very calm, relaxed and confident in the face of very tough questions. My intuition is that she knows what she's talking about and would be a great fit to lead the office of the PP.
You are dummy, you believe someone based on their tone
I totally agree she will make a very great PP
Uyasihlolela wena,u good ngantoni lomtu
I agree with you. She is fit for that position.
Yes the position needs another puppet
She is lying through teeth telling us law is about interpretation when judges already cleared the matter that conflict of interest also includes the potential of conflict not just conflict explicitly. If Cyril was not involved in tue business he was never going to be told about that money. The man does not have to be there everyday to be conflicted only one act can have him found guilty.
Hawu don’t Cry sis😢!!,you messed up but it’s going to be okay,Jesus loves you!and he will be with you in the Hell you put yourself in!!!protecting Cyril comes at a very high cost!,ask those before you!!
Xoli was well prepared this time good work. As members of community we appreciate Bhut X. Acting PP must stop dreaming and go investigate properly. Stop being biased. She's puppet
Her pockets were lined VERY WELL
If the guard dog turns on the flock to protect the wolf, then the flock must treat the guard dog with the same contempt as they do the wolf...and if the Shepherds takes a posture to protect the guard dog in-question, then the flock is in serious trouble...Then only way out is for the flock to transform into Lions
Well done Xoli! You had a slippery fish to interview.
Then arrest everyone who is involved in this case as well as the President because in law, there is what is called respondeat superior. Whether directly or indirectly, the Presidents ferocious acts warrants enough evidence for legal pursuit.
Thank you. Our people need legal and financial literacy!!
When you want to study law and become an Adv because you've heard Gcaleka speak, only to come back speaking like Bathabile Dlamini.
Lol, imagine had she made the same findings as the Busi Mkhwebane, that wouldn't have happened, obviously Cyril had to put someone who'd only question is "how is high?" when Cyril tells her to jump
Technically she ascended to the position when Mkhwebane was suspended since she was her deputy, so the president didn't put her there, let's get our facts correct.🙂
Thing is, you all have made up your mind. Ever thought of why the money was hidden in a sofa, by trusted employees, who then conveniently went to work for Arthur Frazier as soon as they had created pandemonium? Just asking?
@@thorisomalesa6413 LOL very smart of you, I guess the president didn't know who was going to be the acting public protector when he removed Busi. He knew who it was going to be, and he also knew how she was going to handle this matter, obviously by removing Busi he knew his puppet would solve his mess.
@@maburwanemokoena7117 No my brother. if my memory serves me well. the acting PP was once malusi gigaba's advocate or advisor and even when she joined the office of the PP many people were saying she was put there to continue with status quo of RET as malusi gigaba was viewed by many to be helping the guptas to loot. jiki jiki she's the presidents puppet. unlike busi, she took her time to look at all the guidelines in terms of the jurisdiction of the PP office. according to you ke, what must she charge the president with?
King Arthur fraser open the case and just stood back so that people can attack the President. No one is asking or interviewing fraser and asking what sort of evidence did he give?. I can go on and reiterate what @noxolotshangu8055 shared "why is it that the so called former employer at phala phala went to work for fraser", no one is asking this questions and everyone is just clapping hands for Xoli.
SARS South African Reserve Bank cannot answer, the money is in the cushions.
It is because you did not subpoena his bank records to see if he is not getting paid.
She knows the banking accounts will unveil another can of worms because all evidence becomes public domain knowledge one she concludes a case. So she's shielding her corrupt puppet boss from the scrutiny of the public from which he wants votes next year.🐒🐵🙊🙉🙈
Haaibo how do you know they did not do that. Besides the farm belongs he worked for it. Go get your own farm if you want it.
@@mandlamhambi6756 did you listen to the interview?
Clearly you need financial literacy classes. He has interest in it as a member and director. He has no job there. He owns it out right. So what’s your issue really?
I like the PP calmness. Of course her responses are something else.
Lmao I thought I was the only one who noted
😅😂 were you expecting her to throw the water bottle on his face for tough questions she can't really answer?
They train them well…look at Madonsela..always calm even spewing bile!!
The woman is even shaking and the voice shevering 😢 oh this poor child
Tearry eyes as well
As the seller, how to you accept foreign currency of that amount without any clearance from SARB?
Not only that but the auctioneers have already made it clear they don't accept cash!
It's a fact
Again there’s is no evidence that they did not get clearance from SARB we still do not have a report from sarb
Remember, the president did no selling, it’s the farm that did. According to the law, a business and an individual who owns the business are 2 different entities. Therefore you can’t go after the president for things that the business does in its day to day operations. The farm has staff and he is not one of them. Get it?
@@noxolotshabangu8055 So he hasn't trained and briefed his staff on certain legalities. That does not conform to employment acts and processes. Even at ground level regarding safety procedures. Eg. if the employer didn't provide gloves for the employee and the employee injures or burns his hand , it's the employer's fault coz he failed to provide gloves, ppe and he's legible for a fine or 1 year imprisonment. B.O.S.S - bucket of stinking shyt. 🤣
Think the Beautiful Adv Gcaleka Explained the position of the PP Very well , i think shes Got got a lot of Substance
Brilliant woman...very calm and composed......private money was stolen not state funds...not PP jurisdiction.
You are a journalist keep it that way
uCyril udlala ngeNgane yazi!,she just threw away her whole career for Cyril!,lets hope he pays her well atleast!!!,i feel sorry for whoever paid for this childs education,watching her throw away her future for a old man😢
Indeed Mr Masuku. He is destroying her future.
uCyril will use her and then leave her!,poor girl
Acting Public Protector is brilliant.,she knows her stuff, she is articulate and factual. She has a bright future, wherever she goes, she has my respect.
You admire her coz she's a conniving liar ??? Are you mad ?
Are you by any chance studying or practicing law?
Lovely interview and I think we, as the public, need to understand the mandate of the PP, that's to deal with state matters and public funds. The Hawks and reserve bank are the ones largely responsible to investigate the Phala Phala matter. PP spoke very well for herself...
😂😂😂😂😅 April fools day has come and gone
You must be joking right, this is a joke of all times this country has ever had.
@@musamanzini5272he's not lying though
What a gentleman ❤❤
She reminds me of Thuli Madonsela trust me she is walking on her path… there’s nothing the citizens will receive from her…
@ Abbey u ryt she is a mess,
She is actually the spokesperson of Ramaphosa
You're already appointed as pp of South Africa may God be with you new pp I have appointed you now
$580 000, you are the owner or member or director, and Ramaphosa does not no about it.
The acting PP is telling the nation that there was a fire pool at phalaphala😅😅😅😅😅😅
This Gcaleka girl appears to be more of Cyril's spokesperson than a Acting PP...
There you go, minimising her. She’s not a girl, not to you or anyone for that matter. She is a fully grown woman. Who do you think you are?
I thought I was the only one who noticed.
This is not the posture of an an impartial pubic protector.
Gcaleka is Ramaphosa's lawyer not a Public Protector. Now we know why Mkhwebane was removed
I have gained respect for Adv Koleka Gcaleka. What a calm, clear and astute professional! Really admire this lady!!
She calm but saying B..s
She was nervous AF! Lol!
@@tiisetsomvula6429 What’s the BS?
@@SiyaLanga Really? How do you know that? sangoma vibes neh?
Admiring corruption, shame on you....small brain....SOUTH AFRICAN ARE NOT PROTECTED, IF WE HAVE CORRUPT PP😢😢😢😢
How can the only director in the company not be involved in day to day operations and decision-making of his company?
& the money is deposited under his sofa 😂
So those that was dismissed by their employers for Conflict of Interest can ask for retrial
@@bakergovender3291 you are so ryt but this President is above the law I bet the courts will create their own version of event as to what transpires during the transaction & the excuse as to how the dollars were banked under the sofas at Phala farm.This country is turning into the animal farm where the buffalo is treated differently from the rest of the big 5 (Nelson Mandela,Thabo Mbeki,Montlhante & Jacob Zuma he must be a special breed indeed.
'The more things change, the more they remain the same'
Good work our beloved PP ❤
😂😂😂 your love for ANC has destroyed the country
"Involvement" doesn't hv to be day-to-day running of the business. Shareholder derives revenue from a business without day-to-day running of the business.
Even CR derives money from it but that is not income / paid work. Its like saying CR cannot sell his house because he will derive income.
uyi actor ngempela awuvuthiwe’
She is going to have a tough time explaining this report during public protector interviews
Let's wait for the courts to overturn the decision she's made
Really? Thing is you can’t fault her on the law, so you insinuate biases. That’s not how her office is run.
I love 💕 this lady very good, knows what she's doing
Singing for her supper!!She thinks that everyone in S.A is a buffoon
😅😅
This woman has no shame, she risked her career for Cyril
Definition of stupid and recklessness 😅
I dnt think she understands tht!! this will go far in history and he name on shame. She just took the words ''The courts are with Ramaphosa" and concluded that she will be protected... now she has to speak like Cyril's spoke person in defense of her report!!! I dnt think she sleeps at night.
@@motsamaimokoena2604 well said. Camp rama is like teflon, I am in camp rama therefore I am teflon.
Former Judge issued reports less than month but acting PP takes 1 year
@@motsamaimokoena2604 True
Please $580 000 Dollars [R10 000 000] at the current exchange rate, and Mr Ramaphosa was not present or did not know and was not involved in the sale. Do these people think South Africans are stupid?
Yes, yes they clearly do.
That's Lady who have become a State Protector or President Cyril Ramaphalaphala instate of being a Public protector the History will absorb her she will be ashame for herself time for her will come
People making noise about this for nothing this is no big deal
Even Zuma stonch supporters said the same. It is a very big deal. In fact, it's a massive scandal.
@@musajohannessithole8970 you are repeating yourself.
So why did they put the money [under the coach for months]
Who
Thank you Mr X for the interview. Great work.
Kholeka basically wasted reaources into her investigations because she couldn't provide concrete evidence into their findings. I am still left with a question of what is it the office of the Public Protector was investigating...
She was placed there for that purpose. She must not find the president guilty
Once we look at Advocate Gcaleka through the eyes of Zuma camp we definitely miss the point...
@@bandilemichaelncoyini9179 Whatever eyes we are using everything yields to the same conclusion that Gcaleka avoided finding Ramaphosa guilty . If it was you who was found with such an amount of foreign currency in your house you would be sitting in jail by now. That is regardless of whether you are using Zuma's eyes or not. Remember that the amount of money that was hidden under the couch was never declared. That is the eyes of SARS and the Reserve Bank not Zuma
Yoo, South Africa is blessed.
The whole of Africa, a public broadcaster, can't question the government like that. I tell you, SA is blessed.
If I heard correctly, it seems like the PP knows that something went wrong but it is not in their jurisdiction as the office since this was a private sale.
Nonsense..
What a load of rubbish. That girl is way beyond her depths. She can't even articulate her own judgement.
Lies she did very well. She was very clear you did not listen!
are you ok upstairs
@@mandlamhambi6756I agree.
Good questions Xoli,this woman is not trustworthy! Look at her body language,shaking her feet under the table! She's under immense pressure & she's gonna be found wanting! She put that office of the P.P in disrepute! Shame on her for being POWER hungry!!!
Compromised big time..tainting their professions bcz of political pressure, not credible sisi
Pure disgrace this one
And then still go on national television and continue to lie about it😢 yoh shame on her
The public protector is very clear and well informed about the law (constitution) of South Africa...
You don't have to explain. You have a nice, cushy job with excellent pay and privileges. You know that what you earn is way above your actual competency, and you are there at the mercy of the guy you have to investigate... Most people would do the same in your circumstances...
A sage analysis.
Not fair you attacking this lady for nothing. You are just emotional my friend follow the law!
@@mandlamhambi6756 I guess the law is in the eye of the beholder... If you think Ramaphosa did nothing wrong, you must be part of his paid escort
@@Macedonia270 People like you refuse to see the truth, even when it smacks them in the face. Firstly, her investigation ihas to be narrow in this respect because she, by law, can’t investigate private transactions and private accounts. There’s a judgment against the PP for doing that. Further, her office doesn’t deal with currency, it’s clear that the SARB is responsible for those investigations.
When you fail to read the actual report, and go picking up stompies on tv, this is the result you get. I read the report twice and going through her substantiations I was satisfied that she carried out her mandate to the hilt. Do yourself a favour and read it, you may change your mind.
@@noxolotshabangu8055 If she found him guilty, she would have been suspended and replaced... If Madontsela was still the PP, she would have found him guilty.
YOU SHOULD REFER THE MATTER TO POLICE IF IT IS NOT UNDER SCOPE OF PP😢😢😢
She sounds more like a spokesperson of the president than a public protector.
The mandate of the PP is not solely with financial matters of the State as falsely stated by Adv Kholeka Gcaleka.
The PP mandate reads as follows "The Public Protector is an independent institution established in terms of section 181 of the Constitution, with a mandate to SUPPORT AND STRENGTHEN CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY. A supreme administrative oversight body, the Public Protector has the power to investigate, report and remedy IMPROPER CONDUCT IN STATE AFFAIRS".
In the end Xoli got her furked when he asked her about the pp job .This is exactly how we end up with corrupt people in jobs of high profile. It's all about the money and fame. These people will sell their souls to the devil. I can see Nandipa junior has concluded her sale of her soul.
Yoohh, sise kakeni 😂
Her arguments don't make any sense.cyril lied and said he was gonna put his businesses in a trust so as to avoid all of this but he never did.Owning any business is a 24/7 thing and you're working for yourself so it's nonsensical to say ramaphosa doesn't work at Phalaphala in the broader meaning of the term.
So you imagine Elon Musk going to his office at Tesla daily, running around buying nuts and bolts that are needed? Financial literacy class will help you, really?
@@noxolotshabangu8055 Next time try reading to comprehend and not just to respond.I clearly stated that in the 'briader' context of the term business owners 'work' at their businesses 24/7.And for your knowledge,Elon is not the President of the US and comparing him to cyril or to any president is a misnomer.
@@sthe_zar6341 Right, let’s help you so that you understand. Elon Musk is a business owner, right? Cyril is a business owner, right? Do you not see that parallel? Do you not glean that I am comparing those aspects of their lives, how big business is run? I read and comprehend very well thank you for your misplaced concern, you should ask the English professor who is currently marking my dissertation just how well I know the English language. Not sure 🤔 I can say the same about your fluency in isiXhosa. Point of the matter is, that there are many big business owners who have nothing to do with the operations of their businesses.
@@noxolotshabangu8055 Your friends here are deleting my response because they're pushing the same propaganda that kholeka is pushing to try and protect cyril from being held accountable for his crimes in PhalaFarmGate.You talk about dissertations but you don't know the difference between a stricter and broader interpretation of the concept of work and what this means for the interpretation of the law in SA.The report will be up for review in court and the truth will come out from that!
It was first the deliberate exclusion of the then deputy president on his involvement with glencore by then deputy chief justice, who now is the chief justice.
Now is the acting pp , the probabilities favours her to the position permanently. There's was a trade of positions 😂😂😂😂 mathematically
I respect advocate Gcaleka. She knows her work despite the external forces who are trying to confuse her. The report does not exonerate the President, but the Public Protector's mandate does not allow her to do the job for the other organs of the state. Her office did what they are supposed to do and it must end there as they did not find the President having violated the constitution. That the President did not violate the constitution as far as the money of the state, does not mean the President did not do wrong as far his private businesses are concerned. Let's watch the space and see where it will end
I haven't read the report and an afraid it's not worth my energy, Vincent Magwenya and this lady are the Ramaphosa's keepers. 😢
Xoli is asking wrong questions. Why he doesn't ask her about the president's own admissions on this matter
I am very concerned by the answers given by the acting PP, she is answering with authority instead of answering on a probability. She is saying for example, "there was no ..." instead of saying "we have no evidence that...". I find it problematic for a legally trained person to answer in the manner that she is doing, it is like listening to Ramaphosa speaking. She's very compromised
She is extremely compromised 😂😂
Extremely suggests there may be a percentage that lies outside capture, she is utterly and wholely captured.
The lies that you are peddling 😅😅😅😅....I guess only clever people will be able to notice
If you can provide grounds for her to have found otherwise, I’d welcome that. And I may change my view. I read the report. Did you?
@@noxolotshabangu8055wena o ANC you on every comment hai suka wa tena corruption unit