May I ask how is your coffee machine now? I am going to oder one but i have seen some nagetive commments for the models including 8785 and 8889. I wonder if the milk foam system still work fine? Have you has the experience that the amount of milk foam decreases without changing th set up? Do you meet any malfunction for this machine? Thanks!
Sure, I had no issues since I bought it...I clean wheekly the milk tube, drip tray and cleanse the inside system and once a month use coffee oil remover pils and also milk circuit cleaner.
Hello, please could you tell me when you put in the brewing unit if it clicks into place? We have the same model and it seems like it leaks into the lower container. Thank you.
First of all, great overview of the machine! I‘m currently undecided if I wanna get the version of this machine that you have (stainless steel front and 2 more coffee variations) or the one with the plastic front. Do you think the stainless steel version is worth the extra 150€ over the plastic one?
Hi , I got my Gran Aroma today (bought mainly because of this video :) and am directly unfortunately disappointed ... I have now let out about 15 coffee and espresso and the trester/pomace are completely mushy and wet, not firmly pressed pucks as I know it from Jura. As I said the machine is brand new - is this "normal" at the beginning? Have the grinding level on 3 of 12 and the coffee is just mega "weak" and tastes very watery ...
Salut, sincer modelele sunt foarte similare, cred ca xelxis mentionat de tine are extra cateva profile personalizabile si posibil una, doua retete...eu nu cred ca merita modelul asta xelxis banii extra, dar daca isi un model mai nou, cu display-ul mai mare, poate da. Si la ala doar acel display e feature-ul mai fain. Depinde de ce buget ai si daca pentru tine merita/vei folosi acele retete extra sau nu
Fallos: - Leche: no monta la leche, apenas hace espuma y es muy fina; casi todo es leche, no consigue texturizar las bebidas. Quien venga de una Delongui, o sepa montar la leche con una cafetera tradicional, esta Saeco le parecerá una broma de mal gusto. - Rendijas: no tiene respiraderos en ninguna parte, se calentara la electrónica y se humedecerá. Solo transpira expulsando con un golpe de vapor por el deposito de café en polvo; por lo que al quedar húmedo se atascaría encima el café que eches por ahí. - Electricidad: el cable de conexión no es estable - Agua: el deposito se vacía entero con 4 cafés ya que se llena la bandeja recoge agua a tope cada día, solo con esos 4 cafés (incluso en las instrucciones pone que se tiene que vaciar cada día), habiendo recogiendo en una taza aparte el enjuague inicial y el enjuague final... con la Delongui lo hacia cada 14 días - Dosis de café: cuando pones la dosis máxima (extrashot), o pones Que haga 2 tazas, hace 2 moliendas; el problema esta en que no distribuye el agua; en la primera usa tanta agua que el café sale agudísimo (sobre extraído), y en la segunda usa muy poca agua desperdiciando el café. Las galletas de los posos de café y encima en las dosis máximas son finísimas, y donde se recogen se ven que están desechas y aguadas, por lo que aparentemente no ha tenido una buena compresión y extracción; además el sistema interno tiene que quedar embarrado, ya que al empujar el poso para tirarlo al no ser solido y ser una papilla, se quedaran restos dentro; en una Delongui esto no ocurre. - Temperatura: apenas hay cambio entre los 3 niveles de temperatura seleccionables, todos muy calientes. En una Delongui si se notan. - Limpieza: El programa de limpieza que hay que usar cada vez que se usa la leche, hygiesteam, tienes que darle cada vez que lo usas 7 veces a un botón y ver un tutorial con imágenes. No se puede quitar, es cada vez que se usa, cada vez que usas leche. ¿comodidad? parece como si quisieran reírse de ti.
As you saw in the footage the milk froth looks good and if it's too waterry maybe the milk circuit needs to be cleaned using a maintenance kit. I chose this over the De'Longhi, as it has a ceramic grinder and should last more and also the coffee taste won't be affected by overheating grinder.
@@creionROSU de longhis and mieles steel grinders are far superior then ceramic ones iz philips/saeco machines. It won't overheatign beans by few cups in row and can grind better
@@creionROSU Steel Grinders: Durability: Steel is tough and long-lasting, making steel grinders more resilient with regular use. Greater Consistency: Steel grinders often provide precise grinding and consistency, crucial for high-quality espresso. Robustness: Steel grinders are better able to handle unexpected foreign objects like small stones, reducing the risk of damage. Ceramic Grinders: Less Heat Buildup: Ceramic does not heat up easily, which preserves coffee aroma by reducing the risk of a “burnt” flavor. Quieter Operation: Ceramic grinders operate more quietly than steel, which can be an advantage for home use. Better Corrosion Resistance: Ceramic doesn’t corrode, so it’s long-lasting even in humid conditions. In summary, steel grinders are excellent for durability and robustness, while ceramic grinders offer quieter operation and better aroma preservation, ideal for those who prioritize coffee flavor quality. both are good for 10years so that really doesn't matter
Pai prin manual zice sa se modifice finetea rasnirii abia dupa o luna de folosire sau ceva de genu...ideea e ca dupa ce o foloseste o vreme, ca sa iti poti da seama la gust
Buna . Intampin o problema cu masina mea de cafea saeco gran aroma si as avea nevoie de un sfat daca se poate. O am de sase luni si in ultima perioada ori imi scoate doar o apa maronie ori imi spune café annulation si o cruce rosie asta dupa ce in prealabil à macinat cafeaua. Nu imi da nici un cod de eroare . Oare ce ar putea fi ? Rasnita ? Si daca da ce este de facut? Va multumesc
@@creionROSU da teoretic macina..acu i am curatat unitatea de infuzare si compartimentul de cafea premacinata cum scrie in manuel sa vedem cum o fi pe urma..adevaru e ça a fost murdar nu stiam ça trebuie curatat..
E important sa respectati ce mai scrie la intretinere in manual...saptamanal, sau cand tavita se umple de apa + cafea, curat interiorul sub jet de apa, si la doua luni trebuie folosite pastile de indepartare a uleiului de cafea
VERY VERY LOUD! Do not need am alarm for the clock it will wake up everyone in the house!! Otherwise wonderful! I am not making it right and am actually making it way too strong!! Oops!
We just bought this machine and I don’t like it at all! After the 20th try this machine still keeps on making super watery coffee !!! I’m seriously considering a refund of this purchase…..
Try cleaning the milk circuit...it also happened to me, and when it comes out watery I clean the milk circuit using the powder from the maintenance kit and then works just fine
Great work!
Thanks 😊
Hello, can you tell me what was the default (recommended) grind setting on the machine when it was brand new out of the box?
Hi, sadly I changed it before checking :)
@@creionROSU what grind setting do you use then?
I have it on four right now
Hmm press the button I think it asks for a profile color first
May I ask how is your coffee machine now? I am going to oder one but i have seen some nagetive commments for the models including 8785 and 8889. I wonder if the milk foam system still work fine? Have you has the experience that the amount of milk foam decreases without changing th set up? Do you meet any malfunction for this machine? Thanks!
Sure, I had no issues since I bought it...I clean wheekly the milk tube, drip tray and cleanse the inside system and once a month use coffee oil remover pils and also milk circuit cleaner.
@@creionROSU Okay, thanks for your answer. Then I will order one
Good luck
Hello, please could you tell me when you put in the brewing unit if it clicks into place?
We have the same model and it seems like it leaks into the lower container.
Thank you.
Yes it has to click...mine also seems to drip some water so not sure what the reason might be
First of all, great overview of the machine!
I‘m currently undecided if I wanna get the version of this machine that you have (stainless steel front and 2 more coffee variations) or the one with the plastic front. Do you think the stainless steel version is worth the extra 150€ over the plastic one?
To be onest, no 😊 as long as you don't scratch the plastic
Hi! what is the cheaper model with the plastic front please?
Hi! what is the cheaper model with the plastic front please?@@creionROSU
Hi, I don't know the exact model number for the plastic front version
@@ozmaoz8754 it‘s the Gran Aroma SM6580
Is there a heat change setting ?
It exists on Xelsis models but in GranAroma, i want to know.
Yes, there is...
Hi, is it neccesary, for cleaning milk tube, select and press all instructions EVERY TIME, or you can select and press the start directly?
I saw they recommend running a program for that. After every usage it will clean the inside using steam.
Hi , I got my Gran Aroma today (bought mainly because of this video :) and am directly unfortunately disappointed ... I have now let out about 15 coffee and espresso and the trester/pomace are completely mushy and wet, not firmly pressed pucks as I know it from Jura. As I said the machine is brand new - is this "normal" at the beginning? Have the grinding level on 3 of 12 and the coffee is just mega "weak" and tastes very watery ...
What do you think?
Das ist normal und wird mit der Zeit besser
Salut, nu stiu ce sa aleg intre GranAroma 6585 sau Xelsis 7580, ce recomanzi?
Salut, sincer modelele sunt foarte similare, cred ca xelxis mentionat de tine are extra cateva profile personalizabile si posibil una, doua retete...eu nu cred ca merita modelul asta xelxis banii extra, dar daca isi un model mai nou, cu display-ul mai mare, poate da. Si la ala doar acel display e feature-ul mai fain. Depinde de ce buget ai si daca pentru tine merita/vei folosi acele retete extra sau nu
Pai vad ca au astea de la philips o oferta la xelsis 7580 e mai ieftin decât GranAroma 6585, ar trebuii sa aleg xelsis?
@@creionROSU ?
Atunci eu zic ca da...
@@creionROSU ok, mulțumesc mult pentru sfat
Fallos:
- Leche: no monta la leche, apenas hace espuma y es muy fina; casi todo es leche, no consigue
texturizar las bebidas. Quien venga de una Delongui, o sepa montar la leche con una cafetera
tradicional, esta Saeco le parecerá una broma de mal gusto.
- Rendijas: no tiene respiraderos en ninguna parte, se calentara la electrónica y se humedecerá. Solo
transpira expulsando con un golpe de vapor por el deposito de café en polvo; por lo que al quedar
húmedo se atascaría encima el café que eches por ahí.
- Electricidad: el cable de conexión no es estable
- Agua: el deposito se vacía entero con 4 cafés ya que se llena la bandeja recoge agua a tope cada día,
solo con esos 4 cafés (incluso en las instrucciones pone que se tiene que vaciar cada día), habiendo
recogiendo en una taza aparte el enjuague inicial y el enjuague final... con la Delongui lo hacia cada
14 días
- Dosis de café: cuando pones la dosis máxima (extrashot), o pones Que haga 2 tazas, hace 2
moliendas; el problema esta en que no distribuye el agua; en la primera usa tanta agua que el café
sale agudísimo (sobre extraído), y en la segunda usa muy poca agua desperdiciando el café. Las
galletas de los posos de café y encima en las dosis máximas son finísimas, y donde se recogen se ven
que están desechas y aguadas, por lo que aparentemente no ha tenido una buena compresión y
extracción; además el sistema interno tiene que quedar embarrado, ya que al empujar el poso para
tirarlo al no ser solido y ser una papilla, se quedaran restos dentro; en una Delongui esto no ocurre.
- Temperatura: apenas hay cambio entre los 3 niveles de temperatura seleccionables, todos muy
calientes. En una Delongui si se notan.
- Limpieza: El programa de limpieza que hay que usar cada vez que se usa la leche, hygiesteam, tienes
que darle cada vez que lo usas 7 veces a un botón y ver un tutorial con imágenes. No se puede quitar, es
cada vez que se usa, cada vez que usas leche. ¿comodidad? parece como si quisieran reírse de ti.
As you saw in the footage the milk froth looks good and if it's too waterry maybe the milk circuit needs to be cleaned using a maintenance kit. I chose this over the De'Longhi, as it has a ceramic grinder and should last more and also the coffee taste won't be affected by overheating grinder.
@@creionROSU de longhis and mieles steel grinders are far superior then ceramic ones iz philips/saeco machines. It won't overheatign beans by few cups in row and can grind better
@igorristic2562 well the steel ones will wear off sooner...
@@creionROSU Steel Grinders:
Durability: Steel is tough and long-lasting, making steel grinders more resilient with regular use.
Greater Consistency: Steel grinders often provide precise grinding and consistency, crucial for high-quality espresso.
Robustness: Steel grinders are better able to handle unexpected foreign objects like small stones, reducing the risk of damage.
Ceramic Grinders:
Less Heat Buildup: Ceramic does not heat up easily, which preserves coffee aroma by reducing the risk of a “burnt” flavor.
Quieter Operation: Ceramic grinders operate more quietly than steel, which can be an advantage for home use.
Better Corrosion Resistance: Ceramic doesn’t corrode, so it’s long-lasting even in humid conditions.
In summary, steel grinders are excellent for durability and robustness, while ceramic grinders offer quieter operation and better aroma preservation, ideal for those who prioritize coffee flavor quality.
both are good for 10years so that really doesn't matter
@igorristic2562 true, it's a bit of nitpicking
Am achitionat recent. Dar am umblat la
Început la râșnița. Cum sa reglez râșnița la numărul potrivit? Care ar fi acela?
Pai prin manual zice sa se modifice finetea rasnirii abia dupa o luna de folosire sau ceva de genu...ideea e ca dupa ce o foloseste o vreme, ca sa iti poti da seama la gust
Eu am mai invartit putin de ea sa o faca mai fina...
@@creionROSU eu am învârtit de ea de la început:)) dar e normal ca si butoanele de Clean si settings sa lumineze cand e aparatul pornit?
@@creionROSU parca nu sunt mulțumită de ce imi ofera. Ori nu sunt eu încă Învățată cu el
Da, asa este si la mine
Buna . Intampin o problema cu masina mea de cafea saeco gran aroma si as avea nevoie de un sfat daca se poate. O am de sase luni si in ultima perioada ori imi scoate doar o apa maronie ori imi spune café annulation si o cruce rosie asta dupa ce in prealabil à macinat cafeaua. Nu imi da nici un cod de eroare . Oare ce ar putea fi ? Rasnita ? Si daca da ce este de facut? Va multumesc
Dar se aude rasnita ca functioneaza...eu as recomanda daca mai are garantie sa o duceti la service...este posibil sa sa fi blocat ceva in ea...
@@creionROSU da teoretic macina..acu i am curatat unitatea de infuzare si compartimentul de cafea premacinata cum scrie in manuel sa vedem cum o fi pe urma..adevaru e ça a fost murdar nu stiam ça trebuie curatat..
E important sa respectati ce mai scrie la intretinere in manual...saptamanal, sau cand tavita se umple de apa + cafea, curat interiorul sub jet de apa, si la doua luni trebuie folosite pastile de indepartare a uleiului de cafea
@@creionROSU multumesc pentru reactivitate si informatii
Si eu pentru mesaj 🙂
VERY VERY LOUD! Do not need am alarm for the clock it will wake up everyone in the house!! Otherwise wonderful! I am not making it right and am actually making it way too strong!! Oops!
😂
Even after the cleaning the tube looks full of milk residu.
After some time the color of the tube seems to change a bit 😊
your water hardness has 4 squares and you selected on the machine only 1
Yes, but after measuring the level with the included tester
We just bought this machine and I don’t like it at all! After the 20th try this machine still keeps on making super watery coffee !!! I’m seriously considering a refund of this purchase…..
Mm, depends on the recipe but mine works fine...did you use whole beans or ground coffee?
Try cleaning the milk circuit...it also happened to me, and when it comes out watery I clean the milk circuit using the powder from the maintenance kit and then works just fine
I recommend you change the grinder settings.
Mannn… WHY that music tune in the background during the milk process.. People want to hear the noise of the machine.. pointless video for me..
Sorry to hear that, I figured the sounds would be loud enough