I bought Magnifica Evo (steam wand edition) a few months ago. I work from home full time so ease of use was a priority for me. Fantastic machine and excellent value!
I bought the Explore and I'm really happy with it, especially because it was on promotion. I do all the range of drinks and it has been great. Never going back again to coffee pod machines!
I paid for the Dinamica Plus in Asia (Taiwan) just because your introduction. It’s the new model with 24 drinks in the menu now. I believe the internal structure should be similar (also with 12 grams) across generations. Thanks for the detailed guide on three machines. Subscribed & Liked
Wish I saw this review before I purchased my Philips Lattego. Anyway, I returned the Philips. I had a Delonghi Primadonna Class for 5 years until it broke. Extremely happy with that machine. I recently purchased an Eletta Expore on sale after strongly considering the Dinamica Plus. The puck size is everything folks. If you like strong coffee with intensity Delonghi is the way to go, especially the Dinamica or the Eletta Explore! Between them I'd say it's personal preference between the design and Eletta scores high on cold drinks. Cold Brew is fanstastic.
Thank you sir! Your content is getting better and better everyday. You seem to capture info I always wondered about and you manage to get details I don’t find anywhere else. Keep it up! 👍
I absolutely love your reviews. You sold me on getting the magnifica evo with cremalatte and an over ice feature. I had their semi automatic one and this on is superior and so easy to use, just one tap and your coffee is done. I love my evo, thanks for the amazing reviews, keep them coming.
Wonderful review, I didn't know the brew groups are the same! Based on what James Hoffmann also analyzed these are the best bean to cup machines. The coffee tastes great. I was wondering about all the plastic content everywhere, now that we know polyphenols are an issue, the brew group is plastic, the grouphead parts are also plastic. Probably not the healthiest, but we have plastic coming from everywhere anyway.
I am about to buy Delonghi machine and I have watched plenty of your videos. Every one of them is very useful and gave me very important details about the machines. Great job!
Awesome :)) Your videos helped me alot when finding a new superautomatic for my parents. Only been using Saeco/Philips machines for years and years.. But after seeing your video on the Magnifica I went for that one. I must agree - the quality of coffee from that machine IS better than Saeco/Philips. I was actually pleasant surprised! Gotta be the best tasting coffee from a superautomatic I`ve tasted so far. And my parents are also very happy with the super easy user interface :)
Thank you for this comment. I was torn between the Phillips 2200 and Magnifica S. I’ve also read that the Phillips machine gets dirty from inside quickly as it spills coffee powder everywhere. Did you notice anything like that?
@@thegreatskywalker i have been using philips full automatic machines for 10 years and all of them have the same grinder which is open from structure and that allows easy cleaning and maintenance but for the closed grinder of delonghi that maintenance isnt required so. But never had issues with powder going everywhere and must admit i havent cleaned as much as the guide said😅 both a good inwould say better judge on taste cost and build quality i guess
@@thegreatskywalker Have not noticed that no.. But I must say that it was much easier to take out the brewing unit for cleaning on the Delonghi vs Philips/Saeco. What also Tom explains with Philips using a lot less coffee - explains why its been so far from "real espresso machines" with portafilter and 18-22g doses for double espresso. I also think the built in grinder is far better with the Delonghi. The grinder is one of the most important aspects and it can make a world of difference.
@@thegreatskywalker Hello again :) I am at my parents and just cleaned the machine for them. It was super easy and there was only a little “coffee mess/leftovers” at the “shower curtain” section. My experience with Saeco/Philips is that it’s much more messier. Thought of your original question and wanted to do an update. On the Saeco/Philips grounds and coffee leftovers are “all over” the brewing unit inside. So I am very happy with my parents new machine :))
I've watched more of your videos than I care to admit and find yours the best. I bought and Evo and mine includes a cold coffee option which was key for me. Thanks!
@@TomsCoffeeCornerI just bought the same model as well ( ECAM29084SB). It has 7 recipes: espresso, cappuccino, latte macchiato, iced coffee, coffee, hot water, and My Latte. Good videos, Tom. You helped me decide to purchase the EVO
@@TomsCoffeeCorner perhaps they mean “iced coffee”. Not quite the same as a cold brew, but my Evo offers an iced coffee option (ECAM29084SB) as well as for a total of 7 options: espresso, cappuccino, latte macchiato, iced coffee, coffee, hot water, and My Latte.
As always great review ! I have been thinking about getting the Elletta Explore. But I don't care for cold drinks so I can't justify the price. I would love to see you doing a review on the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. Thats the machine I'm thinking about buying since it's around $700 and has a lot of great features.
Very nice video and very much appreciated! You are getting closer and closer to a Jura machine :). I would be very interested to hear your opinion about Jura.
All the BEST differnce in taste I have done now is using 22-24G of coffee in my pucks. I think this is the most under estimated rreason, the amount of grams of coffee. ALL, and I mean ALl, maybe a few slipped, but ALL preach 18g . I tried over 300$ worth of top coffee over a few months and ALL upto 19 even 20grams were no good to OK. Now with just a few more grams, a few clicks looser grind, I am getting gold ...on the La Spazialle 54mm. For SUpAuto to do with 15g.....and getting great shots....well, maybe we or me....are doing something wromg, or our taste buds are vastly different! LOL..I am enjoying your vids bud!!
Wonderful! I have had a MiiCoffee Apex for four months and my wife just picked up a magnifico evo. She isn’t a fan of really strong coffe, loves milk drinks and will use the machine for coffee quite a bit. Thanks for your reviews, they helped her decide.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I have to add, I watched. your reviews of the Apex before I bought it. And even though my wife loves the convenience of the super-auto, she never refuses a flat-white when I make one on the Apex.
Another great review tom! Two Magnifica ESAM3400s sold by Starbucks in Canada (both purchased used) served our family well for around 8 years. These machines were solid and I was able to repair them myself including replacing the boiler and using parts from the original to repair the second. My sister-in-law has one she purchased new and it's still going strong after well over 10 years of daily use! When our second one eventually died, we purchased a De'Longhi Magnfica ESAM04110S. In less than 3 months it wouldn't power on and the local authorized repair shop concluded it wasn't worth repairing and so Delonghi replaced it with a brand new Dinamica. I agree the Dinamica makes slightly better coffee! We maintained the Dinamica extremely well, with regular cleanings and descalings. After 2 years when the transmission failed, Delonghi refused to repair or replace it on warranty because it was a warranty replacement for the Magnifica, our local authorized repair center told us they wouldn't recommend repairing it at a cost of ~ $500 because replacing the transmission was such a major job that there was a high risk of other issues and it would only have a 30 day warranty. They were nice enough to lend us a loaner Dinamica for 3 months while they worked with Delinghi to determine what was wrong with ours. The loaner made worse coffee and very inconsistent tasting (not sure why). Thanks to Tom's expertise and awesome video (ruclips.net/video/au92VvBYLrA/видео.htmlsi=Gugei3zo6C0B_MPz), we've replaced it with a Delonghi ECP 3630 purchased on sale at Walmart for $144 CAD ($104 USD). Out of the box using the pressurized portafilter with pre-ground beans, our espresso tastes significantly better than what the Dinamica made! All these Delonghi's have the same steam wand that requires removing the panerello attachment to froth properly, but the ECP3630 has far superior steam pressure for steaming! Our bottomless portafilter has arrived and I'm excited to use it along with our new Turin DF54 grinder to experience espresso at a whole new level! If you're lazy, convenience is your top priority, you enjoy milk foam on your mediocre espresso, and you have lots of cash to spend, buy a Delonghi super automatic! If you enjoy coffee shop quality espresso and are on a budget, do yourself a huge favor and invest in a good grinder which you can leverage for many years for espresso, drip, french press, etc. and basic manual machine :-)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Unfortunately not! Here’s a video on a Delonghi transmission repair: ruclips.net/video/HZ8oQUGtPjc/видео.htmlsi=MVwcL6hYwNEofzPx Repair shop told us the entire machine requires disassembly which creates potential of other issues.
Hey Tom - great videos! I am leaning towards the magnifica Start over the Evo -- would you conclude the Start has identical max dosage of 12g like you mention here for the Evo?
Hey Tom, I've been really enjoying your new uploads, but more importantly, I've also learned a tremendous amount since watching your older videos. Do you think you'll be doing a full review of the Magnifica Start?
Hi there! I did a truncated review, since it's essentially the same as the Magnifica Evo: ruclips.net/video/d5niedTxpY4/видео.html Let me know what you think. Too short, or is it ok?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I had watched the video, and I made this comment because I thought it was a bit short, but now that I've watched it back again, I think a fun video idea would be to do a comparison of both machines since they're so similar. Even if there're only subtle differences, I think it'd be a good one for people who are new to superautomatics. What do you think? Either way, I'll always be tuning in, and thank you for all the great, entertaining and informative videos you make. Cheers from Canada!
7:44 - you must have a scale in your brain because those numbers are moving to 30g.. LOL..... By the way - based on your recommendation a year ago, I purchased the Delonghi Dinamica.. and it has been FANTASTIC! Thanks for all you do!!
Well, the Rivelia has a slightly smaller brew group, as the machine itself is smaller. Should still do similar doses though. I have the feeling the Rivelia will be similar to the Dinamica Plus.
Can you please do a review of the Jura Ena 4 and compare them in terms of quality and reliability vs Delonghi, Saeco, Gaggia, etc.? Thank you so much. Huge fan here.
Thank you for the reviews. Can you comment as to why for example the machines dispense at a 4:1 ratio for an espresso, whereas my understanding that the norm appears to be 2:1? I actually have the Eletta Explore which dispenses a similar ratio that I enjoy, or am I perhaps missing out by not changing the grind and/or water quantity to achieve the golden 2:1?
Great video! I have the Eletta Explore, and love it! What confuses me, though, is the "2x espresso" option. Because that one also makes two espressos from one bigger puck. So what is the difference between that option and Doppio+?
Now looking at 3 delonghi machines. These are here in Thailand rather affordable. They are: - Magnifica Evo ECAM 290.81.TB for about 970 Eur - Dinamica ECAM 350.55 for about 1070 Eur - Dinamica Plus ECAM 370.95.T for about 1350 Eur I like black coffee and espresso. My wife likes cappuccino. I used to have the smallest Jura but it broke down and where I live service is difficult and it was not repairable. So time to change. For the rest, I don't care about features. Would be nice to easily clean. And just great taste of coffee. Any suggestions
I have subscribed and I really enjoy your videos, but FYI the Mike placement can pick up your breathing and more importantly your mouth saliva noises This is not a whiny complaint, this is just letting you know something you're probably not aware of, and should know, thanks and keep up the good work
magnifica sounds like it is catching its own gears while grinding the beans. we have a sage at work and grinding is so much quieter, even more so than the other 2. Eletta is more similar in sound
My only hesitation on these machines is the steel grinder. Is there any version of these machines that has a ceramic grinder? Or do you feel a ceramic grinder, with its lower temperature operation, vs a steel grinder doesn't make a significant difference in typical day-to-day use? Thank you!
Hey Tom- Have you ever tried/reviewed the old Magnifica S? It has a "strength" dial prominent that has so many levels... wondering if its max puck size gets to the level of the Dinamica?
Great review and video, but I'm surprised that you forgot to mention that the EVO also has a double espresso feature that gives you the maximum strength possible of 14-15g, same as the Dinamica and the Eletta. You simply hit the X2 button and adjust the volume accordingly.
@thegreatskywalker Positive, I've weighed the dry pucks and timed the grind. What I got for the 3 strengths is about 7, 9 and 11 grams and 14-15 grams for the X2. The X2 pucks are visibly larger, and the grinder also runs for 10 seconds.
@@CechMtl-gm9yq Thank you for the reply. I hope @TomsCoffeeCorner makes a part 2 video on puck sizes with Magnifica S 13.5 grams, and Magnifica Evo with X2 button.
Sorry, I tried this yesterday, and it made no difference. I think on my machine that it just doubles the water. Grinding was still between 7-8 seconds. Maybe it was the case on the firmware of your model, but no longer on mine.
@TomsCoffeeCorner That's too bad, thanks for checking though. I figured that there might be something wrong with your machine or a difference between the models, I have the NA version model # ECAM29084SB. With X2, it grinds for 10 seconds, and it produces an 80 ml shot, I stop it at 40. According to the manual, a Doppio+ produces 120ml at default.
Love your reviews. I love the Dinamica and the eletta. There's a way to make to-go coffe on the Dinamica? And a way to make the milk come out cold from the dinamica? Cose if that's the case I may choose the Dinamica Plus.
Thank you much for answering. Im still saving for one of them and Im not sure which one to get yet, so here I am revisiting your great reviews 😅 @@TomsCoffeeCorner
Hello, I have Magnifica Evo and to my surprise, it grinds exactly 10s on 3 beans and around 9s on 2 beans. Without to choose x2 option. Actually I like that. ...May be a different submodel?
Bought the eletta explore last month even though i could get the philips sarco xelsis suprema for about the same price (normally retail price is 600€ more) and the cheaper philips latte go series are build quality wise pretty bad compared to delonghi in my opinion to much plastic. Suprised that even the xelsis has same grinder as the cheapest philips full auto. I recommand you try the xelsis to though. But for me my old machine was a philips and i had to get use to the delonghi. I tested both machines when i got the eletta explore and you are right about the cup size. Philips uses less beans per cup/shot. Also the sensitity of the grinder level seem not making a lot of difference with my old philips but it does big time with elletta explore. I have it on 4 now if i go lower than that i get watery pucks and the coffee comes out very slow and inconsistent so for me the sweet spot seem to be 4. Thanks for your tests btw i learn a lot to make my favorite drinks
With all the prep, clean-up and maintenance needed for these machines I feel like buying something like Breville Express Impress is much better choice.
What about the Magnifica Plus? Does it also grind more coffee? It has a Doppio+ selection, so it would seem so. Coming from a manual with 20 gram ability, so my taste buds prefer stronger espresso pulls.
Each Delonghi machine uses the same size brew unit. But it seems like there is a programming difference between each model and their own variants as well. I've tested my EVO, and it definitely grinds 14 grams with the doppio (x2) option. I've weighed the pucks, and I timed the grind at 10 sec. The easiest way for you to check is to time the grind. 8 sec is about 11-12 grams and 10 sec is about 14-15 grams as a reference since they also use the same grinder.
Hi, is it possible to adjust coffee weight and extraction time for an expresso on the Eletta explore? Also, can you adjust milk temperature? Or you just can modify what the display shows you? Thanks
I originally bought the Evo, but it had something wrong with it so sent it back and bought the Dinamica Plus. I liked it, but really wanted the hot foam, so I sold it and bought the Eletta Explore. I've been very happy with it. I have the model that doesn't have wifi or the true brew over ice option. Saved a little money that way.
What do you mean with “ I really wanted the hot foam”? The dinamica plus doesn’t make hot foam? I’m hesitating between Delongui Eletta explorer and Siemens EQ900, for me it’s important to have cream latte not just airy foam. Thanks for your help!
@soniamartin2729 Exactly. The Dinamica only does cold foam, which is why I sold it and bought the Eletta Explore. It does both hot and cold so you get best of both worlds.
Great video. In the UK the Dynamica plus doesn't have the app connectivity on new models. Not sure why they removed it, probably so people buy the more expansive models. Also my Dynamica plus was made in Romania, so looks like not all made in Italy.
@@MildManneredJon In each market, there are several ECAM variants, from the entry level ECAM 3xx.70, which is usually the cheapest, to the higher end ECAM 3xx.85 and ECAM 3xx.95. The entry level model have slightly different hardware ie a weaker 15 bar pump and no connectivity
It depends on how good one is at milk steaming. I can steam silkier than these machines can provide, but that wasn't always the case. It's pretty darn good milk foam that these machines provide.
Hi Tom, I’ve read reviews that a lot of people with those machines have trouble with the milk carafe after descaling. Its stops pumping milk after doing a descale…Did you heard anything about this issue ?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner there’s a Delonghi Eletta Cappuccino Top and Eletta Cappuccino Evo on sale right now and i’m thinking should I get one of those even they are older models ? Are they better than the newer magnifica Start ?
In the UK I bought the Dinamica Plus ECAM370.70.B it doesn't have connectivity or profiles. What it does do, when a coffee is made it leaks a small amount of water into the drip tray. Delonghi UK say a small amount of water in the drip tray as the coffee is made is normal.
I think the 370.70 also has a 15 bar pump vs 19 bar on the 370.95, so it probably cannot pump through 15g of finely ground coffee. Does it even have the doppio+ mode?
Hi, would u rather take magnifica evo or dinamica latte (not plus)? I watched all your videos and there isnt this kind of comparing.. For example, dinamica plus is using up to 15g of coffe, and evo can go up to 10g, because prices are similar between evo and dinamica latte, i am curious can dinamica latte extract 15g as well cause thats something that is deal breaker for me.. I will use machine mostly for espresso. To be more precise DELONGHI Magnifica Evo ECAM290.61.B vs DeLonghi ECAM.350.50.B
@@MantecadeMani i’d say the Ninja ekes out the win, because of the 18 g pucks over the maximal 15 g pucks of the Delonghi. That being said, the Eletta is easier to use.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner wow thanks for replying Tom! I have just found your channel and have been binge watching all your videos. Thank you for all your reviews and honest opinions ☕☺️ I'm hoping to get my ninja luxe once it launches in the UK
I have my Delonghi Magnifica ESAM 3500. (Bought 11 years ago). I had the brew tank replaced. ($110 total, plus complete clean 2 years ago) Love it. It is stuck on heating up. I think it is time to replace. 😭 Are all the water reservoirs the same?
@@TomsCoffeeCornerI know the volume can be set, but if it’s less than 8oz and I buy the machine my wife will kill me AND I’d have to return the product - that’s a lot of headaches. I can’t find this information anywhere. That’s why I asked you if you could confirm the 8oz given that you have these machines in your possession.
Maybe real dark beans. To be honest, I don't think there's a huge difference in temps between the modes, if it's anything like the Dedica. I measured those, and they were like 1-2 degrees apart, in C.
How would i get 23 grams coffee/46 grams water ratio with this machine…..i just bought the machine and i feel the espresso i made with this Dinamica is not strong enough……
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i appreciate very much that you replied to my question. …..you are totally right! I do have a Breville double boiler and i use double basket portafilter. I use 23 grams of dark roast beans and add frothed milk latte…..and it is the only cup i have daily! I purchased the Delonghi to see if i could duplicate the espresso in a quick manner. But, the Dinamica does good job when i max out on the intensity and low volume of water……i got 30 ml of espresso, and it tasted pretty good and was intense…..i am still experimenting and i bought the Delonghi so i could quickly get my espresso fix in the morning! Thanks Tom, you provide a very valuable service and i enjoy your videos very much!!!!
It's the result of a fresh bean, good grind, and proper pressure. A lot of people want to know if a machine is capable of providing it, which is why I cover it. Plus, I do like its texture, myself. Cheers!
What about Magnifica S? It allows 13.5 grams coffee & has a dial to fine tune the coffee amount. How does it compare to these models for espressos? Source that it uses 13.5 grams ruclips.net/video/KDK7RE0WwqM/видео.htmlsi=nxTdvmWfEuxwG5La&start=266
I am really not sure. We have this machine at work, maybe I should give it a go. 13.5 grams seems too high though. Never got that out of any Magnifica Evo or Start, for example.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerthank you for taking the time to reply. Yes 13.5 seems high, especially since it’s the least expensive delonghi. But maybe they used to offer higher dosage in older models. If it works, it’s a bargain. Please try it. Love your videos. Thanks :)
@@TomsCoffeeCorner You wanted it, I've done it just right now. I have spent more than 130 g of supermarket arabica coffee, not too dark but not the roast level of a specialty coffee for espresso. The first 30 g as a preparation to achieve a steady state. I have started the test with all the coffee beans just covered by the finger protector. Then I have added 100 g of beans. I have made 9 ristrettos in setting #1 of the grinder, at full aroma (or intensity or whatever Philips name it). Then I have added 6 g to have enough beans for the last shot (#10). So, 10 shots with 106 g of beans. Here you have it. I wish someone pay me back the coffee spent 😜
@@i1chy Well, I'm not here to prove I'm trustworthy. And I'm not a youtuber. I'm just telling Tom that he should test the machines again. Take it or leave it.
I bought Magnifica Evo (steam wand edition) a few months ago. I work from home full time so ease of use was a priority for me. Fantastic machine and excellent value!
I bought the Explore and I'm really happy with it, especially because it was on promotion. I do all the range of drinks and it has been great. Never going back again to coffee pod machines!
Your reviews helped us decide on the Dinamica Plus a few months ago. We are very pleased with it.
I paid for the Dinamica Plus in Asia (Taiwan) just because your introduction. It’s the new model with 24 drinks in the menu now. I believe the internal structure should be similar (also with 12 grams) across generations. Thanks for the detailed guide on three machines. Subscribed & Liked
Wish I saw this review before I purchased my Philips Lattego. Anyway, I returned the Philips. I had a Delonghi Primadonna Class for 5 years until it broke. Extremely happy with that machine. I recently purchased an Eletta Expore on sale after strongly considering the Dinamica Plus. The puck size is everything folks. If you like strong coffee with intensity Delonghi is the way to go, especially the Dinamica or the Eletta Explore! Between them I'd say it's personal preference between the design and Eletta scores high on cold drinks. Cold Brew is fanstastic.
Thank you sir! Your content is getting better and better everyday. You seem to capture info I always wondered about and you manage to get details I don’t find anywhere else. Keep it up! 👍
I absolutely love your reviews. You sold me on getting the magnifica evo with cremalatte and an over ice feature. I had their semi automatic one and this on is superior and so easy to use, just one tap and your coffee is done. I love my evo, thanks for the amazing reviews, keep them coming.
@@OnlyFigures Thanks so much for your support!
Wonderful review, I didn't know the brew groups are the same! Based on what James Hoffmann also analyzed these are the best bean to cup machines. The coffee tastes great. I was wondering about all the plastic content everywhere, now that we know polyphenols are an issue, the brew group is plastic, the grouphead parts are also plastic. Probably not the healthiest, but we have plastic coming from everywhere anyway.
Yeah the plastic everywhere in coffee machines freaks me out too ;( perhaps there would be less plastic in sage machines?
Thanks for this Tom! I don't catch all your videos, but when I do I love the theme/content choices and the quality insights
I am about to buy Delonghi machine and I have watched plenty of your videos. Every one of them is very useful and gave me very important details about the machines. Great job!
Great to hear, and thanks for your feedback!
We've had a De Longhi Eletta Cappuccino TOP for a few years now and, other than the fact that one of the nozzles doesn't work properly, we love it.
Awesome :)) Your videos helped me alot when finding a new superautomatic for my parents. Only been using Saeco/Philips machines for years and years.. But after seeing your video on the Magnifica I went for that one. I must agree - the quality of coffee from that machine IS better than Saeco/Philips. I was actually pleasant surprised! Gotta be the best tasting coffee from a superautomatic I`ve tasted so far. And my parents are also very happy with the super easy user interface :)
Thank you for this comment. I was torn between the Phillips 2200 and Magnifica S. I’ve also read that the Phillips machine gets dirty from inside quickly as it spills coffee powder everywhere. Did you notice anything like that?
@@thegreatskywalker i have been using philips full automatic machines for 10 years and all of them have the same grinder which is open from structure and that allows easy cleaning and maintenance but for the closed grinder of delonghi that maintenance isnt required so. But never had issues with powder going everywhere and must admit i havent cleaned as much as the guide said😅 both a good inwould say better judge on taste cost and build quality i guess
@@vkempen88 Thank you for the reply. Its very helpful 🙂
@@thegreatskywalker Have not noticed that no.. But I must say that it was much easier to take out the brewing unit for cleaning on the Delonghi vs Philips/Saeco. What also Tom explains with Philips using a lot less coffee - explains why its been so far from "real espresso machines" with portafilter and 18-22g doses for double espresso. I also think the built in grinder is far better with the Delonghi. The grinder is one of the most important aspects and it can make a world of difference.
@@thegreatskywalker Hello again :) I am at my parents and just cleaned the machine for them. It was super easy and there was only a little “coffee mess/leftovers” at the “shower curtain” section. My experience with Saeco/Philips is that it’s much more messier. Thought of your original question and wanted to do an update. On the Saeco/Philips grounds and coffee leftovers are “all over” the brewing unit inside. So I am very happy with my parents new machine :))
Your reviews helped me get the machine I need and I'm really enjoying it. Thank you so much !
I've watched more of your videos than I care to admit and find yours the best. I bought and Evo and mine includes a cold coffee option which was key for me. Thanks!
Oh nice, which Evo model offers the cold brew?
@@TomsCoffeeCornerI just bought the same model as well (
ECAM29084SB). It has 7 recipes: espresso, cappuccino, latte macchiato, iced coffee, coffee, hot water, and My Latte. Good videos, Tom. You helped me decide to purchase the EVO
@@TomsCoffeeCorner perhaps they mean “iced coffee”. Not quite the same as a cold brew, but my Evo offers an iced coffee option (ECAM29084SB) as well as for a total of 7 options: espresso, cappuccino, latte macchiato, iced coffee, coffee, hot water, and My Latte.
This review was very helpful. Will definitely get the Dinamica Plus. Thank you!
As always great review ! I have been thinking about getting the Elletta Explore. But I don't care for cold drinks so I can't justify the price. I would love to see you doing a review on the Gaggia Cadorna Prestige. Thats the machine I'm thinking about buying since it's around $700 and has a lot of great features.
I really enjoy watching your videos
Thank you 🙏🏼
Very nice video and very much appreciated! You are getting closer and closer to a Jura machine :). I would be very interested to hear your opinion about Jura.
Thanks for the reviews, your inputs and reviews are really helpful
All the BEST differnce in taste I have done now is using 22-24G of coffee in my pucks. I think this is the most under estimated rreason, the amount of grams of coffee. ALL, and I mean ALl, maybe a few slipped, but ALL preach 18g . I tried over 300$ worth of top coffee over a few months and ALL upto 19 even 20grams were no good to OK. Now with just a few more grams, a few clicks looser grind, I am getting gold ...on the La Spazialle 54mm. For SUpAuto to do with 15g.....and getting great shots....well, maybe we or me....are doing something wromg, or our taste buds are vastly different! LOL..I am enjoying your vids bud!!
Wonderful! I have had a MiiCoffee Apex for four months and my wife just picked up a magnifico evo.
She isn’t a fan of really strong coffe, loves milk drinks and will use the machine for coffee quite a bit. Thanks for your reviews, they helped her decide.
Glad to hear it, hope you both enjoy your machines!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I have to add, I watched. your reviews of the Apex before I bought it. And even though my wife loves the convenience of the super-auto, she never refuses a flat-white when I make one on the Apex.
Another great review tom! Two Magnifica ESAM3400s sold by Starbucks in Canada (both purchased used) served our family well for around 8 years. These machines were solid and I was able to repair them myself including replacing the boiler and using parts from the original to repair the second. My sister-in-law has one she purchased new and it's still going strong after well over 10 years of daily use! When our second one eventually died, we purchased a De'Longhi Magnfica ESAM04110S. In less than 3 months it wouldn't power on and the local authorized repair shop concluded it wasn't worth repairing and so Delonghi replaced it with a brand new Dinamica. I agree the Dinamica makes slightly better coffee!
We maintained the Dinamica extremely well, with regular cleanings and descalings. After 2 years when the transmission failed, Delonghi refused to repair or replace it on warranty because it was a warranty replacement for the Magnifica, our local authorized repair center told us they wouldn't recommend repairing it at a cost of ~ $500 because replacing the transmission was such a major job that there was a high risk of other issues and it would only have a 30 day warranty. They were nice enough to lend us a loaner Dinamica for 3 months while they worked with Delinghi to determine what was wrong with ours. The loaner made worse coffee and very inconsistent tasting (not sure why).
Thanks to Tom's expertise and awesome video (ruclips.net/video/au92VvBYLrA/видео.htmlsi=Gugei3zo6C0B_MPz), we've replaced it with a Delonghi ECP 3630 purchased on sale at Walmart for $144 CAD ($104 USD). Out of the box using the pressurized portafilter with pre-ground beans, our espresso tastes significantly better than what the Dinamica made! All these Delonghi's have the same steam wand that requires removing the panerello attachment to froth properly, but the ECP3630 has far superior steam pressure for steaming! Our bottomless portafilter has arrived and I'm excited to use it along with our new Turin DF54 grinder to experience espresso at a whole new level!
If you're lazy, convenience is your top priority, you enjoy milk foam on your mediocre espresso, and you have lots of cash to spend, buy a Delonghi super automatic! If you enjoy coffee shop quality espresso and are on a budget, do yourself a huge favor and invest in a good grinder which you can leverage for many years for espresso, drip, french press, etc. and basic manual machine :-)
Thanks so much for sharing your experience! Could you have just replaced your brew group, or what do you mean by transmission otherwise?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
Unfortunately not! Here’s a video on a Delonghi transmission repair: ruclips.net/video/HZ8oQUGtPjc/видео.htmlsi=MVwcL6hYwNEofzPx
Repair shop told us the entire machine requires disassembly which creates potential of other issues.
Hey Tom, I love your content! Could you do a video comparing Jura with Breville or Jura with De'Longhi in the future?
I know, I have to do Jura. Still waiting to find a deal on an E6 or E8 somewhere.
Thank you very much Tom! Amazing explanatory video and helps me a lot about my decision
This is absolutely fantastic review. Thank you very much
Glad it was helpful!
This video really helped me to choose these models, thanks!
Thank you for the review, I'm trying to compare these to the Philips range, but looking at you videos it does seem that these are a better buy.
Hey Tom - great videos!
I am leaning towards the magnifica Start over the Evo -- would you conclude the Start has identical max dosage of 12g like you mention here for the Evo?
Hey Tom, I've been really enjoying your new uploads, but more importantly, I've also learned a tremendous amount since watching your older videos. Do you think you'll be doing a full review of the Magnifica Start?
Hi there! I did a truncated review, since it's essentially the same as the Magnifica Evo: ruclips.net/video/d5niedTxpY4/видео.html
Let me know what you think. Too short, or is it ok?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner I had watched the video, and I made this comment because I thought it was a bit short, but now that I've watched it back again, I think a fun video idea would be to do a comparison of both machines since they're so similar. Even if there're only subtle differences, I think it'd be a good one for people who are new to superautomatics. What do you think?
Either way, I'll always be tuning in, and thank you for all the great, entertaining and informative videos you make. Cheers from Canada!
7:44 - you must have a scale in your brain because those numbers are moving to 30g.. LOL..... By the way - based on your recommendation a year ago, I purchased the Delonghi Dinamica.. and it has been FANTASTIC! Thanks for all you do!!
Great content as always :)
Other than for the dual hopper, how similar to any of these machines do you expect the new Rivelia to be?
Well, the Rivelia has a slightly smaller brew group, as the machine itself is smaller. Should still do similar doses though. I have the feeling the Rivelia will be similar to the Dinamica Plus.
Can you please do a review of the Jura Ena 4 and compare them in terms of quality and reliability vs Delonghi, Saeco, Gaggia, etc.?
Thank you so much. Huge fan here.
Thanks for review🙌
Thank you for the reviews.
Can you comment as to why for example the machines dispense at a 4:1 ratio for an espresso, whereas my understanding that the norm appears to be 2:1?
I actually have the Eletta Explore which dispenses a similar ratio that I enjoy, or am I perhaps missing out by not changing the grind and/or water quantity to achieve the golden 2:1?
So cool! I am going to stick to my good old faithful ECP 😎👍🏽 great video Tom ☕️
@@FaithAndCoffeeBean Great decision! That’s where I’m at after going through 4 Delonghi Super Automatics! One can fix em and they’re affordable 😂😂
Great video! I have the Eletta Explore, and love it! What confuses me, though, is the "2x espresso" option. Because that one also makes two espressos from one bigger puck. So what is the difference between that option and Doppio+?
To me, the 2x Espresso and Doppio+ are the same thing.
Learned a lot. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Now looking at 3 delonghi machines. These are here in Thailand rather affordable. They are:
- Magnifica Evo ECAM 290.81.TB for about 970 Eur
- Dinamica ECAM 350.55 for about 1070 Eur
- Dinamica Plus ECAM 370.95.T for about 1350 Eur
I like black coffee and espresso. My wife likes cappuccino.
I used to have the smallest Jura but it broke down and where I live service is difficult and it was not repairable. So time to change.
For the rest, I don't care about features. Would be nice to easily clean. And just great taste of coffee. Any suggestions
I have subscribed and I really enjoy your videos, but FYI the Mike placement can pick up your breathing and more importantly your mouth saliva noises
This is not a whiny complaint, this is just letting you know something you're probably not aware of, and should know, thanks and keep up the good work
Excellent, thank you!
Great video! Could you please also do a comparison video between Jura Z10 and Jura Giga 10?
Oh gosh, maybe someday. Those are expensive!
Excellent comparison!
Love your videos! Thank you soooooooooo much.
@@deborahkhoury534 you betcha, thanks for watching!
magnifica sounds like it is catching its own gears while grinding the beans. we have a sage at work and grinding is so much quieter, even more so than the other 2. Eletta is more similar in sound
My only hesitation on these machines is the steel grinder. Is there any version of these machines that has a ceramic grinder? Or do you feel a ceramic grinder, with its lower temperature operation, vs a steel grinder doesn't make a significant difference in typical day-to-day use? Thank you!
Hey Tom-
Have you ever tried/reviewed the old Magnifica S? It has a "strength" dial prominent that has so many levels... wondering if its max puck size gets to the level of the Dinamica?
It doesn't. It grinds for max 8 seconds. I tried it recently at work. Cheers!
Great review and video, but I'm surprised that you forgot to mention that the EVO also has a double espresso feature that gives you the maximum strength possible of 14-15g, same as the Dinamica and the Eletta. You simply hit the X2 button and adjust the volume accordingly.
Are you sure about that? I thought the double espresso button only doubled the water with the same amount of coffee on Delonghi.
@thegreatskywalker Positive, I've weighed the dry pucks and timed the grind. What I got for the 3 strengths is about 7, 9 and 11 grams and 14-15 grams for the X2. The X2 pucks are visibly larger, and the grinder also runs for 10 seconds.
@@CechMtl-gm9yq Thank you for the reply. I hope @TomsCoffeeCorner makes a part 2 video on puck sizes with Magnifica S 13.5 grams, and Magnifica Evo with X2 button.
Sorry, I tried this yesterday, and it made no difference. I think on my machine that it just doubles the water. Grinding was still between 7-8 seconds.
Maybe it was the case on the firmware of your model, but no longer on mine.
@TomsCoffeeCorner That's too bad, thanks for checking though. I figured that there might be something wrong with your machine or a difference between the models, I have the NA version model # ECAM29084SB. With X2, it grinds for 10 seconds, and it produces an 80 ml shot, I stop it at 40. According to the manual, a Doppio+ produces 120ml at default.
Love your reviews. I love the Dinamica and the eletta. There's a way to make to-go coffe on the Dinamica? And a way to make the milk come out cold from the dinamica? Cose if that's the case I may choose the Dinamica Plus.
The Dinamica Plus doesn't do cold milk. But for togo, sure you could just tilt and hold a travel tumber there if you want.
Thank you much for answering. Im still saving for one of them and Im not sure which one to get yet, so here I am revisiting your great reviews 😅 @@TomsCoffeeCorner
Dinamica Plus is my machine and i love it
Hi Tom! What do you think is better for cappuccino & lattes, the DeLonghi Magnifica Evo or the Nespresso Creatista?
Sorry, haven't tried the Creatista yet! But those capsules only have 5 grams of coffee, which is not enough for a proper cappuccino imho.
Sorry, haven't tried the Creatista yet! But those capsules only have 5 grams of coffee, which is not enough for a proper cappuccino imho.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner thank you for replying to my comment! Can you please recommend a good cappuccino machine that’s also economical.
Hello, I have Magnifica Evo and to my surprise, it grinds exactly 10s on 3 beans and around 9s on 2 beans. Without to choose x2 option. Actually I like that. ...May be a different submodel?
Bought the eletta explore last month even though i could get the philips sarco xelsis suprema for about the same price (normally retail price is 600€ more) and the cheaper philips latte go series are build quality wise pretty bad compared to delonghi in my opinion to much plastic. Suprised that even the xelsis has same grinder as the cheapest philips full auto. I recommand you try the xelsis to though. But for me my old machine was a philips and i had to get use to the delonghi. I tested both machines when i got the eletta explore and you are right about the cup size. Philips uses less beans per cup/shot. Also the sensitity of the grinder level seem not making a lot of difference with my old philips but it does big time with elletta explore. I have it on 4 now if i go lower than that i get watery pucks and the coffee comes out very slow and inconsistent so for me the sweet spot seem to be 4. Thanks for your tests btw i learn a lot to make my favorite drinks
@@vkempen88 I would agree to all those sentiments. 👍🏻
With all the prep, clean-up and maintenance needed for these machines I feel like buying something like Breville Express Impress is much better choice.
talk about the Magnifica Plus...
What about the Magnifica Plus? Does it also grind more coffee? It has a Doppio+ selection, so it would seem so.
Coming from a manual with 20 gram ability, so my taste buds prefer stronger espresso pulls.
Each Delonghi machine uses the same size brew unit. But it seems like there is a programming difference between each model and their own variants as well. I've tested my EVO, and it definitely grinds 14 grams with the doppio (x2) option. I've weighed the pucks, and I timed the grind at 10 sec. The easiest way for you to check is to time the grind. 8 sec is about 11-12 grams and 10 sec is about 14-15 grams as a reference since they also use the same grinder.
I love my Dinamica Plus
Hi, is it possible to adjust coffee weight and extraction time for an expresso on the Eletta explore? Also, can you adjust milk temperature? Or you just can modify what the display shows you? Thanks
Sure, you can adjust the amount of coffee ground, and yield in the cup. But you cannot change the milk temp. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Great, thanks for the answer! Looking forward tu buy the eletta explore anytime soon.
Magnifica plus is great and half the price of others
How warm does the milk get on all machines?
Great video!
I originally bought the Evo, but it had something wrong with it so sent it back and bought the Dinamica Plus. I liked it, but really wanted the hot foam, so I sold it and bought the Eletta Explore. I've been very happy with it. I have the model that doesn't have wifi or the true brew over ice option. Saved a little money that way.
WiFi is gimmicky and wouldn’t connect on my machine so pointless anyway.
What do you mean with “ I really wanted the hot foam”? The dinamica plus doesn’t make hot foam? I’m hesitating between Delongui Eletta explorer and Siemens EQ900, for me it’s important to have cream latte not just airy foam. Thanks for your help!
@soniamartin2729 Exactly. The Dinamica only does cold foam, which is why I sold it and bought the Eletta Explore. It does both hot and cold so you get best of both worlds.
Great video. In the UK the Dynamica plus doesn't have the app connectivity on new models. Not sure why they removed it, probably so people buy the more expansive models. Also my Dynamica plus was made in Romania, so looks like not all made in Italy.
Thanks for that feedback! Honestly the app was really bad anyway. I never use it.
@@MildManneredJon In each market, there are several ECAM variants, from the entry level ECAM 3xx.70, which is usually the cheapest, to the higher end ECAM 3xx.85 and ECAM 3xx.95. The entry level model have slightly different hardware ie a weaker 15 bar pump and no connectivity
when you mention about 12, 15g (8-10s grinding) , are you using double shot or single shot)?
@@manhyen Single shots, yes. But you have to select Doppio+ or 2xEspresso.
Do they make silky milk like when you use a steam wand ?
It depends on how good one is at milk steaming. I can steam silkier than these machines can provide, but that wasn't always the case. It's pretty darn good milk foam that these machines provide.
Could you do art latte with the texture of milk froth in Eletta or Dinamica plus? Thanks!
Is the temp the same....on all three????you say Dinamica Plus...but it isn't?........?it's not the plus, but the regular one? I'm I seeing that right?
You already convinced me to get a Sage/Breville instead ;-)
Can you review the new Bosch super automatic machines? 800 series
how it is possible to make espresso and the bigger "coffee crema" using the same grind settings? different grinding time?
Hi Tom, I’ve read reviews that a lot of people with those machines have trouble with the milk carafe after descaling. Its stops pumping milk after doing a descale…Did you heard anything about this issue ?
I have not experienced that, no. But I use these mostly for cafe cremas, so I am not the typical user. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner there’s a Delonghi Eletta Cappuccino Top and Eletta Cappuccino Evo on sale right now and i’m thinking should I get one of those even they are older models ? Are they better than the newer magnifica Start ?
@@juliaclaveau1281 Overall afaik, the Eletta line is better than the Magnifica line. Cheers!
In the UK I bought the Dinamica Plus ECAM370.70.B it doesn't have connectivity or profiles. What it does do, when a coffee is made it leaks a small amount of water into the drip tray. Delonghi UK say a small amount of water in the drip tray as the coffee is made is normal.
I think the 370.70 also has a 15 bar pump vs 19 bar on the 370.95, so it probably cannot pump through 15g of finely ground coffee. Does it even have the doppio+ mode?
It's indeed normal for a bit of water to end up in the drip tray. Happens on most machines.
@AmokD3 Yes, it has the Dippio+ option.
@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you. I forgot to say it makes very good coffee. I use grind setting 4, I'm going to give 3 a go.
Hi, would u rather take magnifica evo or dinamica latte (not plus)?
I watched all your videos and there isnt this kind of comparing.. For example, dinamica plus is using up to 15g of coffe, and evo can go up to 10g, because prices are similar between evo and dinamica latte, i am curious can dinamica latte extract 15g as well cause thats something that is deal breaker for me.. I will use machine mostly for espresso.
To be more precise DELONGHI Magnifica Evo ECAM290.61.B vs DeLonghi ECAM.350.50.B
@@ninoslavmarinkovic395 I haven’t tried the Dinamica Latte, but if it offers the Doppio+, then I’d say go for it. Cheers!
I have a cheap Melitta coffee machine and it makes 16g pucks just like their top of the line model, the main difference is the amount of recipes.
Oh snap! Which model is that?
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Passione OT, I bought it for 400 Euro
I was thinking about getting the eletta explore but then I found the ninja luxe. How do these compare? which one is better?
@@MantecadeMani i’d say the Ninja ekes out the win, because of the 18 g pucks over the maximal 15 g pucks of the Delonghi. That being said, the Eletta is easier to use.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner wow thanks for replying Tom! I have just found your channel and have been binge watching all your videos. Thank you for all your reviews and honest opinions ☕☺️ I'm hoping to get my ninja luxe once it launches in the UK
My Magnifica Evo has a doppio option
i tried making it with starbucks creamer, was hoping for it to foam but i guess not
I have my Delonghi Magnifica ESAM 3500. (Bought 11 years ago). I had the brew tank replaced. ($110 total, plus complete clean 2 years ago) Love it. It is stuck on heating up. I think it is time to replace. 😭 Are all the water reservoirs the same?
They're just about the same, yes. Just the fascia might alter slightly as a design element.
Is it possible to get out 8oz of these machines on a single shot coffee crema? Thanks!
You can set the volume. Mine is set at about 6 oz. I am pretty sure you could extend that to 8 oz if you wanted.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerI know the volume can be set, but if it’s less than 8oz and I buy the machine my wife will kill me AND I’d have to return the product - that’s a lot of headaches. I can’t find this information anywhere. That’s why I asked you if you could confirm the 8oz given that you have these machines in your possession.
Love my Dominica plus
Tom, what you call cappuccino, I would call latte. Too much milk for a truly Italian cappucio. OT - I was using Dinamica now have switched to Plus.
The magnifica start has the exact same guts as the Evo?
@@cobra4455 I’d bet a lot of money on it, yes.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner cool beans. I went with that one
When would you set an espresso machine to low temp?
Maybe real dark beans. To be honest, I don't think there's a huge difference in temps between the modes, if it's anything like the Dedica. I measured those, and they were like 1-2 degrees apart, in C.
Is there any difference between the cold milk frother and warm milk? Or is it just to have two separate milk containers
Good question, I don't really see a difference. I think it might just give a signal to the machine to do cold milk. But I'm not sure.
My Evo has 7 coffee choices including cold brew. Must be a newer model I suppose.
Which is better philips 5400 or 5500
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5500 is the newer model. It has the addition of cold drinks, if that's your thing.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner
Which is better philips 5500 or delonghi dynamica plus?
@@ahmedelemam7747 Dinamica, for sure.
Cappuccino with the milk first results in a Latte Macchiato and has nothing to do with a classic Cappuccino
@@magaro58 I can agree with that.
How would i get 23 grams coffee/46 grams water ratio with this machine…..i just bought the machine and i feel the espresso i made with this Dinamica is not strong enough……
No superautomatic will give you 23 gram pucks. You'll need to buy a portafilter machine, and a deeeeep basket for that.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner i appreciate very much that you replied to my question. …..you are totally right! I do have a Breville double boiler and i use double basket portafilter. I use 23 grams of dark roast beans and add frothed milk latte…..and it is the only cup i have daily! I purchased the Delonghi to see if i could duplicate the espresso in a quick manner. But, the Dinamica does good job when i max out on the intensity and low volume of water……i got 30 ml of espresso, and it tasted pretty good and was intense…..i am still experimenting and i bought the Delonghi so i could quickly get my espresso fix in the morning! Thanks Tom, you provide a very valuable service and i enjoy your videos very much!!!!
DeLonghi or Jura?
Price-wise, Delonghi for sure.
Crema really shouldn't be that much really. Its not doing anything better for flavour than a shot at 10% crema of the resulting shot.
It's the result of a fresh bean, good grind, and proper pressure. A lot of people want to know if a machine is capable of providing it, which is why I cover it.
Plus, I do like its texture, myself. Cheers!
Each De'Longhi model makes coffee the same, the only difference is in the options.
Well, yes the options, but also the amount that the machine will grind. The cheaper ones will only grind up to 10-12 grams.
What about Magnifica S? It allows 13.5 grams coffee & has a dial to fine tune the coffee amount. How does it compare to these models for espressos?
Source that it uses 13.5 grams ruclips.net/video/KDK7RE0WwqM/видео.htmlsi=nxTdvmWfEuxwG5La&start=266
I am really not sure. We have this machine at work, maybe I should give it a go. 13.5 grams seems too high though. Never got that out of any Magnifica Evo or Start, for example.
@@TomsCoffeeCornerthank you for taking the time to reply. Yes 13.5 seems high, especially since it’s the least expensive delonghi. But maybe they used to offer higher dosage in older models. If it works, it’s a bargain. Please try it. Love your videos. Thanks :)
What number should I set the grinder at, thanks
I told you before and I will repeat it. Philips machines can do 10 g pucks.
Ok, please prove it. I’ve measure many times. 6.9 grams was the highest I got out. Tested the 5400, 3200 and 2200.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner OK, tell me how could I show you my results.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner You wanted it, I've done it just right now. I have spent more than 130 g of supermarket arabica coffee, not too dark but not the roast level of a specialty coffee for espresso. The first 30 g as a preparation to achieve a steady state. I have started the test with all the coffee beans just covered by the finger protector. Then I have added 100 g of beans. I have made 9 ristrettos in setting #1 of the grinder, at full aroma (or intensity or whatever Philips name it). Then I have added 6 g to have enough beans for the last shot (#10). So, 10 shots with 106 g of beans. Here you have it. I wish someone pay me back the coffee spent 😜
Without a video, that seems like a waste of coffee indeed.
@@i1chy Well, I'm not here to prove I'm trustworthy. And I'm not a youtuber. I'm just telling Tom that he should test the machines again. Take it or leave it.
That's a lot of milk for a video. Nowadays, milk is not cheap. Have you considered buying a cow 🐄
Haha, yes. I think that myself sometimes, too. Problem is, raw milk doesn't froth. It needs to be homogenized first.