And the spotlight above Burr is the missing point in the Hamilton logo's star. Burr is the unseen part of the Hamilton logo, erased - but he's also the missing piece of the puzzle. You can't tell either of their stories without the other.
The thing about Hamilton pointing up is that it signifies his "pointing to the sky", something he told Phillip and something he does before his death where he aims up at the sky rather than forward toward his opponent.
For the life of me, I've never been able to see Burr as a villain in Hamilton. Maybe it's a credit to Leslie Odom's inherent charisma but I find myself feeling very sympathetic towards the character every time I watch it.
That’s because and maybe it’s just my view, Burr isn’t the villain. Idk I just don’t think he’s the villain, he messed up yeah, but Hamilton was no innocent bystander you know.
It's because Burr and Hamilton are not hero and villain, these are real life people, in real life it's not as black and white as ''this is the villain, this is the hero'' yes they're fictional versions of these two people, but they're more complicated than that, their characters change a lot throughout the play, and even Burr at the end mentions that, since he's the one who killed Hamilton, he'll be remembered as the villain of his story, but that's how people remember him, not how he _was_ as a person. Both are flawed people but neither is a hero or a villain, they're just people.
It’s because Burr isn’t a villain. He’s not a hero, but not a villain. Just like Hamilton wasn’t a hero. He wasn’t a villain, but he wasn’t a hero. They were real people with real lives. And real people are messy and complicated.
More than anything else - they were each other's foils in the musical. (In ACTUAL history, Burr... was... much more questionable. XD) I think he's more of a deuteraganist than a true full-on villain. He and Hamilton clashed certainly, but I think the strongest thing that highlights this is his reaction to the vote near the end. A great credit for that definitely goes to how Leslie played him, but as written even, he's a very sympathetic character. (A jealous fool, yes, but then again; they are all kind of foolish at times.)
It’s a credit to Lin’s writing too. Leslie will be the first to say that. The character was written to be ambiguous and to make you question the history you’ve been told… because it’s the winner that writes the history after all.
I caught that at the first viewing and had to rewind because it was so smooth! I’ve watched this show ten times by now and I’m impressed each time. Wish I’d seen it live.
I know I'm missing it - but why is the table cloth pulled away at the jump, is there a subtle meaning - I just know everything in this show is put there for good reason, but can't work this one out?
@@davesmith5470 i saw someone comment that he went from republican to democratic or maybe it was to signify him being a democratic-republican. Remember him singing about the two parties in, “it must be nice?”
Whether intentional or not, I think Lin Manuel Miranda's less polished vocals fit the character quite well thematically. As someone who came from nothing, now hobnobbing among the elites, he carries a massive inferiority complex. It informs everything about him. He's always trying way too hard to escape His past and "rise above his station". His scratchy, less polished voice makes him stand out, and in my mind adds to to that feeling that he just doesn't quite belong. Feeding into that central theme. Again, probably not intentional. But it still adds another layer to my engagement.
I so agree. He brings such a stayed or reserved performance that works well with the more dramatic performance. And I don't think its accidental. I think he's plays it just the way he wanted to. And it works, his performance gives so richness to the Hamilton character.
This, but also I think Lin being the mastermind behind this whole musical means that he brings a different kind of emotion to the role that another actor couldn’t. Say what you will about his voice but when he emotes on stage, I feel it
I'm no musical expert, but I think it's just incredible how there isn't a single moment you can point to in this show and say "That's the weakest bit." It's just consistently incredible. As for Lin, and I don't mean this as a criticism, just an observation, as a performer he's probably the closest to a weak link as they had. Because he made sure this cast was absolutely stacked with big, big guns. But you can't begrudge him his choice to keep Hamilton for himself, he certainly earned it and while he may not be the strongest performer technically he still does an incredible job. Just my very wordy opinions.
In regards to Lin, I think that’s very deliberate. Alexander Hamilton is the scrappy immigrant getting by using his words and his brains. He lacks the polish and refinement the other characters have. I think it’s shown in the characters and the actors portraying them.
I always found "Hurricane" to be pretty weak, but then I saw Javier Munoz perform it and it was MUCH better. I think it's just Lin's singing that is the weak point of any song. Plenty of characters can portray grief or joy without being desperately out of key.
"If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?" The exact thing Hamilton asked in the first song they met, Aaron Burr, Sir. All comes full circle
Listen to the way he says it each time. When Hamilton asks that of Burr in the first act, it is more of an inquiry, like he's trying to get his head around what makes this guy tick. By the time we get to this song, Hamilton understands exactly who Burr is so when he asks the same question, it's delivered with more anger, like a challenge meant to provoke Burr.
Everyone shits on Lin's performance but I really liked it! I'm not theater expert but I found he adds a lot of texture to Hamilton. Like when Philip dies, his sobbing feels so real and authentic.
I always felt like his lack of singing ability kind of fit with the way he wrote the character. He's scrappy, trying to prove himself in a world where he doesn't quite fit, but he's authentic and passionate and relentless, so you appreciate him for what he brings to the table and let him stick around.
I believe I heard in an interview that he imagined losing his own son during those scenes making them so much more powerful. Just like in Dear Theodosia… that was his son’s bedtime song… so much so he thinks his mom wrote it. And Leslie would say a prayer for his potential future daughter every performance during his silent part of that song. The actors put A LOT of themselves into these parts. Also, Hamilton’s portrayal is partially modeled after Lin’s father. The man arrived in NYC not speaking a word of English and now he fundraises millions every year for the disadvantaged. I think Lin’s own connection to that comes through in a way that a technically better singer just can’t give. It’s okay to have grit and imperfection in a character… including their singing voice.
A fun fact about the choreography. Burr/Leslie only walked in straight lines in till Room where it happens. Lin/Alexander always walked in curves. The reason for that was to show their ways of thinking. Burr always waited for it and when he knew it was the right choice he moved forward always walking in that straight line. The room where it happens messed with the way he thought and he started running in circles. Apparently even Lin Manuel Miranda didn't know about this. And the best part is there is so much more things hidden in the musical that you would need to watch it over and over and you still wouldn't have gotten everything. The why i love the musical so much! :)
I always liked Lin's singing. He isn't a strong vocalist, especially compared to the rest of the cast but he's really not as bad as the world likes to pretend. I get why they might prefer others, though. But to me every other person I've seen as Hamilton just lacked personality and a good singing voice isn't enough to make up for that. Lin on the other hand has that special kind of charm that fits the role so well 🤩
I agree, he’s what I class as a character singer, he allows the personality of his character to really show...he can absolutely carry a tune well enough to be in the lead position of this show but he’s not naturally gifted enough to be a flashy technical singer, luckily his character singing is incredibly strong and it’s where he really shines. I really dislike this whole thing in music where if you can’t belt you aren’t seen as a good singer, it took my university singing lecturer really sitting down and talking with me for me to realise I’m a good singer even though I can’t belt to save my life.
I thought it was good that our perspective of Hamilton as a person wasn’t formed exclusively but his voice. Like if he was an incredible singer, i wouldn’t have noticed his charm and charisma.
One thing I've always said is that Lin's singing is perfect for Hamilton. It's rough around the edges, it's not as refined as the others, and that totally fits the difference between Hamilton and the other main characters in the show. He's a poor immigrant who barely even had a college education while people like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Burr, etc. are all basically American aristocracy with classical educations and who never had to struggle for what they had.
A technically superior voice isn't required to show emotion, movement and character in most genres (example: a whole lot of rock music). Lin absolutely has control: hits his notes, reveals nuances of feeling and thought, raps like a monster, and reveals his character, both solo and when interacting with other characters. His voice is intimate, revealing. Daveed's voice is also idiosyncratic--and it works. Adds multiple textures, dynamics, and interest.
I think the thing too many people don't realize is that Hamilton's "voice" is meant to be conveyed via hip hop. He shouldn't be the strongest singer because the character is excessively verbose, writing all the time, and rap music conveys that along with his relentless energy. That's why in my opinion, this role has to be played by a strong rapper, which Lin undoubtedly is. His singing is secondary. He often says that its easier for him to converse in rhyme than not at awards shows. He was perfect for this role, despite being the genius who created it.
THAT man (Chris Jackson) DOES IT FOR ME. I cry EVERY time I hear "One Last Time" IS, and it will always be my favorite Hamilton song, and that's saying A LOT because all of the music is fabulous.
I heard someone say that when watching Hamilton, if you think of Burr as the main character instead of Alexander, the whole thing is shifted and Hamilton seems like the villain. This is one of the performances that really give off that feeling that Hamilton really is the villain of Burr's story
I liked how I've seen it explained is Burr doesn't look as bad because this is his and Hamilton's story from his side. He's the one telling it from the beginning. It's why we don't know exactly what was said in "the room where it happened". Leslie does an amazing job playing him and being charming and slowly throughout the musical growing angry and jealous to finally guilt after shooting Hamilton. The musical is just so well thought out and carefully crafted.
They are both deep characters with wants, needs and flaws. None of them are really "the good guy". Both are highly immoral at times during the story and it's such a beautifully crafted dance they do around eachother, throughout their lives.
Great perspective. It's been said before, and I also agree that the ability to adopt the perspective of Burr as the main character has A LOT to do with Leslie Odom, Jr.'s performance. He's simply phenomenal. This makes it easier to adopt a compassionate point of view related to Burr.
Leslie's blocking throughout the show up to this point has been straight lines. After being asked "What do you want, Burr?", having to actually decide what he really wants, hetskes his first steps that are not in a straight line - that semi-circular move he makes back to the table. It's the first non-linear movement he makes in the show. It's just all such perfect genius. This whole show is a love letter for theatre people.
A lot of people apparently don’t like how Lin Manuel’s voice sounds. Personality I love that he can make Hamilton feel like a poor guy rising up and trying to fit into high society and it brings so much passion and displays the many relatable emotions Hamilton has, and I think his voice makes it so much more authentic Lots of musicals seem to have everyone singing very technically and perfectly and it seems to be too unattainable? Or fake? But I love that Lin can express the depths of one of his main characters in a way that makes you soften your harsh judgment and defend Hamilton’s choices bc you understand see why he does what he does.
While I recognize that LMM's vocals were not nearly as strong as his counterparts in this show, I was always emotionally invested in his performance which is what I think is the most important part.
A lot of folks are talking about LMM's breath control and I just wanted to point out that, from what I understand of what my friends who both sing and rap tell me, the breath control required to rap onstage for any amount of time is different from the type of breath control needed for singing. If you notice, LMM is very controlled when he's rapping quickly (I'm thinking specifically of "My Shot" but I've seen him rap outside of Hamilton just on various RUclips vids and when he's rapping his breath is very controlled.) Daveed is similar. They seem breathy when they're singing, but when they rap -- no problems. I just wanted to chime in and say that. Also --- PLEASE review "What'd I Miss?" and "One Last Time." It's a crime that no one has done a reaction video to either of those songs. It hurts my heart ...
When you mentioned this song being the musical equivalent of ''that one scene'' for a villain, all I could think of was Disney movies, specifically Scar's ''Be Prepared'', almost all villains get that one piece of music where, whether or not you like the character, it's always one of the best songs in the entire movie/musical.
I just wanna point out that 13:00 is the FIRST and only time in this number where Burr inserts himself into the conversation, the historic event and SEATS HIMSELF at the table where Madison, Hamilton and Jefferson were. He's got pride, arrogance and confidence in this moment to take what belongs to him no matter what the consequences. Leslie elevated the show and intensified the song in that part for me. My HEART IS RACING and I want Burr to succeed after this song. Genius work of choreography and detail!
I love some of the more subtle things that Lin is great at. With this piece specifically listen to the sliminess exuding from him when he quotes Burr back to himself and the petty sarcasm with the "wait for it" line. That subtle emotion is so good and it's incredibly hard to get down but Lin seems to have it nailed throughout the show and specifically in this number.
I just caught the bit of choreo after Hamilton asks Burr what he wants, Burr slides in front of Hamilton essentially replacing him in the triad from the view of the audience. What an incredible way of using choreography to answer the question. He wants the power and respect that Hamilton commands even from those who oppose him. Phenomenal.
I love that you brought up the choreography!! I always really liked the moment that Burr jumps as the tablecloth is pulled away-in my mind it’s kind of like the rug is pulled out from under him as he is stepping into the moment as the true villain who just wants power for the sake of having the power. Loved the video (and an excuse to watch the performance again!).
Someone in another reaction video I saw pointed out something I hadn't really took note of before: when the "red" tablecloth is pulled out and Leslie lands back on it, the table is now lit "blue" by the overhead lighting thereby highlighting the point when Burr decides to change his alligiance from one political party to another. Which logically leads right into the next song "Schuyler Defeated". Just so freakin' subliminally genius! I agree that Lin, Leslie and Andy Blankenbuler's Tony awards are very much well deserved!! Also why I can't get enough of "Hamilton" reviews.....
I love the part where Burr backs off when Hamilton says, “You get nothing if you wait for it” because he’s being confronted with the one mantra he’s been telling Hamilton the whole time
My favorite thing about that final pose is how it tells a story. It mirrors the classic Hamilton pose and they both represent their respective character perfectly. Hamilton is loud, outgoing, and always willing to call his shot and announce his intention and his pose says that. He has a wide chest, wide stance, broad shoulders, pointing straight up letting everyone know his goal is the top and his face looks forward at us as a challenge. His pose says "I'm going to make a difference, come try to stop me." Burr on the other hand has an equally iconic pose that also sums him up perfectly. His pose is a bit more restrained, even in a moment of excitement or celebration he doesn't let himself show too much. His legs feel more planted and he points at the ground where he stands as if to say "I'll wait right here for my opportunity and I'm not going anywhere. I will not budge from this spot." Which in his mind seems like the right answer, but if he never budges... he never gets anywhere. He keeps his head down hoping to not draw attention to himself in stark contrast to A. Ham. It's a cool detail how two simple poses sum up the whole story and their characters and their flaws and strengths perfectly with no words. Just two simple silhouettes. Amazing.
I think one of the reasons I love Burr so much is because Leslie is clearly having such a fun time playing him. It just bring life to an already incredible song
Greatest Disney Villain song tbh. My favourite part is when Hamilton goes "wait for it wait for it" and Burr's reaction to it (I actually always thought that part is all in Burr's head, like in his head Hamilton is a demon mocking him)
Yes! Definitely a moment I appreciate more after seeing the show. The way Hamilton looks at him mockingly while saying it, using Burr's own words against him.
oh my gosh yes, I love how when Hamilton mocks him, he runs in fear. I feel like it's the real catalyst for the change to taking what he wants. He's done with what he perceives to be Hamilton bullying him and taking every opportunity Burr wanted. It's the last straw
I get chills every time I see this number. When Burr starts to let go and his ambition starts to take over, Leslie just presents a Tony award Master class🤯❤️
LMM is so expressive I couldn't help but empathize with him throughout the whole show. Not the strongest singer but his acting made up for it, and I find myself appreciating his performance more each time I watch. His delivery of Hamilton's final monologue was especially enthralling (you should react to it!).
As someone said above I believe LMM knows he isn't the strongest performer but just like Hamilton he's surrounded by high class skilled people and all he has to work with is his charisma and his words Don't get me wrong I love his performance as Hamilton and always sing along
Gotta agree on the not the best singer part. Absolutely love Lin but when it comes to singing there were many on that Hamilton stage who outshone him. Still, he is an incredible actor, which I was reminded of watching His Dark Materials, it really blew me away.
@@charlottecunningham2141 especially at times like "Hurricane" LMM absolutely makes you feel what the character is going through, even if he is not quite on the level of singing technique some of.the others are. More substance, even if he has less flash.
I'm also glad to see that Hamilton won the best lighting Tony. Technical can make or break a show, and in this case, the lighting was another major character in moving the story along. I didn't particularly appreciate the show the first time I saw it, but I've come to appreciate it more and more over time. It really is so unique and each character has so many nuances worth investigating.
I saw Hamilton in MD in the mezzanine, and the view of the stage with the lighting and choreography was amazing. I was saddened to read the OBC Tony-winning lighting director had died.
Leslie Odom Jr is absolutely FLAWLESS. Effortless, immeasurably talented, every small gesture and beautiful vocal performance, he is EVERYTHING in this show!
I absolutely LOVE how soft/breathless Burr songs have been throughout play until this part when his voice becomes nearly guttural, as if he's choking on ambition. AMAZING! 😫😫😫
This is a great number and I love the next 2 min in the show. Leslie goes off stage and comes back a minute later and is still hardly able to breathe. Then he sits in the cabinet meeting and wipes the sweat from his face. It just proves how demanding that number is and he pulled it off 7-8 times a week!
My favorite parts of the reactions are watching YOU get lost in the performance, mouthing along to the songs. Your passion for theatre makes me envious of the actors you coach!
I remember reading something about the choreography for Burr and Hamilton that I found incredibly interesting, and that just added an extra layer onto these already incredible performances. Specifically, about how they walk. Hamilton is rarely still, often wandering or pacing to mirror his "non stop" approach to life. He's also a lot more erratic in how he moves - going in circles, moving around things, changing direction part way - once again reflecting how he rushes towards every opportunity as he sees it, sometimes recklessly so, and often without thinking through the consequences. In contrast, Burr walks almost exclusively in straight lines. Sometimes it's forwards, backwards or sideways, but he's always incredibly direct in his movements. He observes what's happening around him, he makes a decision, and then he follows through with it with purpose and with a straight, dignified posture. And when he does change direction, it's a deliberate pivot, not a wide, circular turn like Hamilton tends to do. It's a subtle but incredibly effective way to convey to the audience a lot about these character and how they differ from each other ('Non Stop' is a really good song to demonstrate this contrast). However, this all changes in 'The Room Where It Happened'. Burr starts out walking in the straight, calculated lines, but as the song goes on and he gets more flustered by what is happening and frustrated at his lack of power, those deliberate movements start to break down. His pivots become turns, his straight lines become curved, he begins to pace a bit like Hamilton does. And then ... the big turn. He practically runs in a circle, then loops around the back of the table to lounge in the chair. His movements become almost frenzied, low and quick and so unlike the carefully planned gestures that we're used to. And all of this comes as he finally decides to stop waiting and to go after what he wants, to "be in the room where it happens". As Marc says, "This is now where Burr drops every ounce of righteousness he has and really just shows his true colours." Burr is still very deliberate in the way he walks after this, but if you compare his movements in 'Non Stop' to 'The Election of 1800' you can really see a difference. Specifically, in the latter he tends to get distracted by what people are saying about him as he walks past, and sort of doubles back and loops around them and changes course in reaction to what they're saying. For the first time he's concerned about public opinion and populism, rather than acting purely on what will have the greatest benefit for him (or rather, pose the least risk to him) in an entirely political realm. It's incredibly subtle choreography (certainly when compared to the dance numbers) that I wouldn't have ever picked up on without reading about it, but I think still subconsciously had an influence on how I perceived the characters. And I'm sure there are many, many other subtle aspects of the choreography, the lyrics, costumes, set design, acting choices, etc, that I've completely missed on a conscious level that just add to the overall brilliance of this production.
This song is definitely where Burr’s composure and self control finally cracks and he goes round the bend. That’s what I would love you to analyze is how the music shows how Burr unravels throughout the show.
I love this performance. As far as LMM, I would argue his performance keeps the pace of the show. Some of the most memorable lines are from him. From the moment he says, Mr. Burr sir, he has control over the pace of the plot. He isn't the best singer but he doesn't need to be. Perhaps the point of the show is the person you wouldn't expect to move things forward or believe has the talent and status (i.e Alexander Hamilton himself) absolutely can.
“You don’t get a win unless you play in the game. You get nothing if you wait for it, wait for it.” In “Wait For It” Burr talked about how Hamilton doesn’t hesitate, he just takes and he takes, and now here Hamilton gets to say the same thing but from his perspective.
Meanwhile Hamilton is about to start learning, in the hardest ways, that "death doesn't discriminate between the sinners and the saints; it takes and it takes and it takes..."
I've always loved how when he says "click boom then it happens" he's looking at it as an outsider, but at the end, HE has the gun, and he fires the bullet that makes his future, the tragedy, inevitable. "click, BOOM" is the gunshot already fired, that kills Hamilton later.
One moment that I absolutely love after someone in the comments of another video pointed out is the last couple of seconds of this song. At the very end of the number, the piano plays "Alexander Hamilton", to which Burr responds with "click, boom" and points down (rivaling Hamilton's point up to signal him refusing to shoot in their duel). The foreshadowing moment is amazing and well brought in. It has become one of my favorite moments from the whole show.
Maybe it is because I really fell in love with Leslie's voice in this musical more than I had ever been before, but I think Wait For It and The Room Where It Happened are my favorite songs in the whole show. So often you will get the acting or you get the voice, but with Leslie, you get both at a world class level.
Lin may be the weakest vocalist in the show but I believe he is the best actor. The way he delivers his lines is amazing, you can really tell what Hamilton is feeling every time. He is so talented
I agree! I like to poke fun at his sob-singing, but his rapping is incredible, as are his every movement, expression, and mannerism. He really does sell it!
I like the choroghephy when LMM "but you get nothing if you wait for it" Burr now sees it as quicksand and runs and falls to his needs. I love that part. I was finally out of the Hamilton rabbit hole, now I'll watch it again.
This is my favorite scene of this my FAVORITE play!! This scene is the most theatrical scene ever!! So Beettle Juice-Lesk...so “fantasmagoric”...You can literally SEE how Burr reveals his true colors, his envy, his thirst for power...the music, the coreo...is just PERFECTION!!! Standing ovation EVERY SINGLE TIME!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The fact that Lin wrote the songs and composed it in such a way that made Burr the narrator and almost the lead character is part of his brilliance. I can't think of many stars that would have that clarity of mind not to just give themselves the juiciest roles and songs.
If you pay close attention to the piano on the last scene, just before the CLICK BOOM part, Alex Lacamoire plays the "Alexander Hamilton" motif, foreshadowing Hamilton being shot by Burr in the end. This show is a masterpiece in all fronts.
I have been sick for over a year, and so incredibly frustrated at my inability to cry or change things. THANK YOU GOD FOR HAMILTON!!!!! We’re it not for this musical I would not have the vehicle to cry with joy and the BRILLIANCE and WONDER of every griffin detail-particularly of this number!! Odum’s command of himself, the song arc, and his body moves brings me to tears of gratitude and amazement. And, they say that art can’t change lives! I’m joining Disney AGAIN 🤣🤣 to watch Hamilton for the seventh time. Thank you, MarkDavidPatrick for emphasizing the spot-on choreo. In endless gratitude for your service here ❤️💜💙
"The art of the compromise, Hold your nose and close your eyes. We want our leaders to save the day But we don't get a say in what they trade away. We dream of a brand new start But we dream in the dark for the most part. Dark as a tomb where it happens, I want to be in the room where it happens." Incredible.
I was avoiding unpacking my boxes at my new place. I put on Hamilton "to ignore" (you know when you need background noise to stay on track so you choose something you've seen or heard a million times so you don't get distracted?) And instead, thanks to your commentary on this song, I found myself OBSESSIVLY watching Leslie's face throughout the entire show and I kept capturing little smirks, little frowns, subtle changes to his demeanor in almost every second he's on stage, even when he's not front and center. Just like The Last 5 Years, I blame you for me not getting anything done yesterday lol.
The breakdown after the “what will you fall for” I think symbolizes Burrs breaking point. It’s from this point on he changes is mentality from “wait for it” to Hamilton’s “Not throwing away my shot”. Hence why he goes from saying “Want to be” to “Got to be” toward the end of the song. The following scene, Burr adapts Hamilton’s endless climb and takes Phillip Schuyler’s seat in the Senate, and so on and so forth.
Leslie Odom Jr. is my favorite singer on the whole show. Burr is one of my favorites. Wait for it is the best song followed by The Room Where It Happens and Dear Theodosia. Absolutely beautiful
Dear Theodosia is probably the most underrated song in the entire musical. That melody is just perfect. Maybe because by the time that Hamilton came out I had a small daughter and I could completely empathize with Burr, but Leslie's delivery is just smooth and perfect and that melody is so dang perfect (did I say that already? it bears repeating. Repeatedly). There are no bad songs in this show. There's no weak spot
What really gets me in this number is that the audience is more in the know than Burr is. He asks “did Washington know about the dinner/was there presidential pressure to deliver?” Um, yup. Washington already told Hamilton to get the deal done. We know it. Burr doesn’t.
The lighting design in this number is very unique and very specific, so interesting to look at (after you've already watched the number a bunch times!).
The room where it happens is incredible. But "Satisfied" coupled with the dancing and acting and visual effects on stage is the pinnacle of the show.... imo
Satisfied to me is the number most enhanced by the visuals of the show rather than just listening to the cast recording. The way they designed the flashback is one of my favorite moments.
See and I find satisfied to be one of the less powerful parts of the musical. I don't know that I could genuinely pick a song I don't like from this musical but I kind of feel like that definitely is my least favorite. Wait For It and The Room Where It Happened are my two favorites. I find them infinitely more relatable than Satisfied.
I just found your page and omg I love it. Leslie is amazing and my favorite character and so much respect for his performance. Every song he sings ESPECIALLY this song gives me chills through the whole song. You asked about lin's performance. I feel like no one else could have performed it with so much passion and the vision he had for Alexander.
Both of Burr's big songs, and the way the character is written, show him to be the kind of person who, though, intelligent, waits for the world to recognize his potential and come to him, rather than a person who goes after what he wants to achieve.
I love this comment, it made me think a lot about how Burr and Hamilton are both ambitious characters affected by the different circumstances of their upbringings. Burr, born into privilege, seems to feel that he's entitled to the power and opportunities that he wants, and I think it's really easy to see him view Hamilton, who has struggled from childhood to reach his own goals, as an interloper seizing the things that are rightfully his. And in this part of the show he's finally spurred on -- lowering himself to Hamilton's level? -- to be proactive instead of just waiting for it.
I love how Hamilton takes all Burr's character leimotivs during the show until this point and throws them in his face making fun of Burr choices and ultimately making him to change the course of his actions. It's brilliant. And Leslie is everything ❤️
This song is what convinced me to finally listen to the whole ass Hamilton Soundtrack just so I could understand the context of such a catchy villain song. And it did not disappoint when I got there. Damn, it's just so good. SO well directed and performed. Burr is such a compelling and relatable villain. Leslie is such a great singer. I remember when the musical finally came out on Disney+, I watched it with my mom and sister. My mom was starting to wonder why the guy who plays Burr gets all the awards and praise-- and then this song happened. And she was like "oooh, that's right".
Hamilton is one of my favorite's and...I have never seen it. It is because of you and the excerpts you feature that make this musical one I wish I had seen. Watching the performers, hearing the performers and watching your reactions provide me with as close as the total experience as I will get. What impacted me in this segment was how the choreography, Aaron Burr and the orchestra all crescendo and climax in perfect synchronization. Brilliantly executed! Thank you Marc for always providing enriching experiences that motivate me to analyze, think and simply enjoy. What would I like to see in the future? I believe you know. You!
Chills every time I see it. Lin's writing, Andy's choreo and, most importantly, Leslie's inspired performance. I've tried to watch it with understudies, replacements and actors in other productions and it's just not the same. Leslie Odom Jr. seemed almost possessed during this number and just left the Tonys with no choice.
What I love about Marc Daniel's reaction videos is the rich commentary he provides showing his deep understanding of musical theatre. I'm not an actor but I cannot get enough of the insight from Marc. Bravo!
The way Leslie runs to the table and sits down during "The art of the compromise - hold your nose and close your eyes" is probably my favourite visual moment in the musical. Top 3, at the least. It's just so SMOOTH, but it simultaneously feels almost mechanical, especially in contrast with his somewhat wild movements up until that point. Like there's an instant "snap" compelling him to immediately go to the table and sit down, all in a picture-perfect manner. Like a magnet being drawn to a respective magnetic field. It's mesmerizing to look at
I've thought from the first time I watched Hamilton that Lin's vocals in certain places are lacking. But as time's gone on and I've watched it over and over, and listened to vocal coaches discuss how vocals build into the character it seems more as though the way he sings those parts was probably intentional and speaks to what Ham is going through, where he's at mentally and his emotions. Honestly, the whole play was so well written and delivered. I'm so obsessed, my family don't get why. It's a masterpiece and the only play I've ever wanted to see live.
The song also kinda mimicked satisfied with the characters showing different sides how when they sang they all end with Hamilton leaving Burr to go to the meeting makes you really legit what happened in that room
I really don't know why there is so much hate on LLMs performance. I love every bit of it and even tho he's not the best singer - he's one of the best actors. In every single scene he's playing it so perfect and i couldn't imagine any other Hamilton. Every insecurity, every sassy conversation and every sad sobbing moment is just incredible and fulfills me with so many emotions. So please don't bash him only for his singing, because I think it fits in the overall picture just perfectly and is perfect for Hamiltons character!
i feel like because he's surrounded by such strong vocalists people see him as an awful singer. Idk i think it fits even tho hes not the best singer, he still was an amazing hamilton.
I’ve always felt that “If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?” Is not just Lin checking a ‘musical call back’ box but a memory of Burr’s in this moment. The accusational way it’s delivered is how he remembers it/how he has internalised it.
One of my favorite details is Jefferson’s limp. I noticed it like a month ago. I was watching and was like “nice pimp walk” and then was like “wait now there must be a reason for that because everything in this show is so intentional” ... I googled it an sho nuff...
I love how you point out in your videos how the filmed performances capture things you miss in the seats; then, in this you point out how the choreography is amazing, and, as if on cue, the next portion you play is the Jefferson part of the song (which perfectly highlights both points of praise).
I loved his performance! At first I was thrown because he’s not an amazing singer but then I just fell in love with it! It just makes his performance seem so sincere and makes it easier to root for him even when he makes mistakes. Absolutely brilliant I don’t think I could ever see it played by anyone else now :(
i love the structure of this song because it's written like you'd write a paper or a debate. 1) tell them what you're going to tell them, 2) tell them and support it with facts, 3) tell them what you told them.
Lin played Hamilton PERFECTLY imperfect. He's not polished and so you can't expect him to be this powerhouse singer. Hes SUPPOSED to be scrappy. So Lin, whether he can sing or not, it FITS.
I think my two favorite performance's of Lin's are his counterpoint with Phillipa Soo in "Helpless" and Jasmine in "Say no to his". Also the first rap battle with Jefferson.
I always felt like Jefferson was the Villain in this musical, and the opening number of Act Two, "What did I miss?" was like his villain song/mirror or Hamiltons entrance at the beginning of Act One.
The true genius part about this number when you look at the choreo alone, you can see Burr's character transition from straight movements to circular ones. He goes from the disciplined and deliberate body language, to an impulsive and sweeping body language. He transforms as a character during this number. The real finale choreo is immediately before he sits down at the table. He goes from a single point and quickly spirals outward to stop and sit at the lone chair at the table instead of walking directly there.
This one of my many favorites that I was patiently waiting for! Another Hamilton song I would love to see you react to would be Daveed Diggs 'What did i miss" and Christopher Jackson's "One last time"
Lin gives his gifts to his fellow cast members to let them shine. He has acknowledged he is not the strongest singer or dancer. To work with a composer and lyricist like Lin is golden.
I love this performance because it gives me the craziest Joker vibes. It’s the first time Burr bluntly tells the audience “I want this”. And he goes mad from start to finish. And if you peep him sitting in Hamilton’s seat, showing he doesn’t just want to be in the room, he wants HIS seat.
Leslie is phenomenal in Hamilton. And I had to laugh when you said you were going to view the ending again bcuz I was getting ready to rewind the video to see that part again but I also wanted to hear what you were saying. Lol. Love your videos and insight.👍
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The “click, boom” pose, he’s the exact opposite of the Hamilton pose on the logo of the musical. Hamilton points up, he points down.
And the spotlight above Burr is the missing point in the Hamilton logo's star. Burr is the unseen part of the Hamilton logo, erased - but he's also the missing piece of the puzzle. You can't tell either of their stories without the other.
The thing about Hamilton pointing up is that it signifies his "pointing to the sky", something he told Phillip and something he does before his death where he aims up at the sky rather than forward toward his opponent.
Good eye
@@-just-so- Omggg I never realized that ty!
it's burr shooting himself in the foot
For the life of me, I've never been able to see Burr as a villain in Hamilton. Maybe it's a credit to Leslie Odom's inherent charisma but I find myself feeling very sympathetic towards the character every time I watch it.
That’s because and maybe it’s just my view, Burr isn’t the villain. Idk I just don’t think he’s the villain, he messed up yeah, but Hamilton was no innocent bystander you know.
It's because Burr and Hamilton are not hero and villain, these are real life people, in real life it's not as black and white as ''this is the villain, this is the hero''
yes they're fictional versions of these two people, but they're more complicated than that, their characters change a lot throughout the play, and even Burr at the end mentions that, since he's the one who killed Hamilton, he'll be remembered as the villain of his story, but that's how people remember him, not how he _was_ as a person.
Both are flawed people but neither is a hero or a villain, they're just people.
It’s because Burr isn’t a villain. He’s not a hero, but not a villain. Just like Hamilton wasn’t a hero. He wasn’t a villain, but he wasn’t a hero. They were real people with real lives. And real people are messy and complicated.
More than anything else - they were each other's foils in the musical. (In ACTUAL history, Burr... was... much more questionable. XD)
I think he's more of a deuteraganist than a true full-on villain. He and Hamilton clashed certainly, but I think the strongest thing that highlights this is his reaction to the vote near the end. A great credit for that definitely goes to how Leslie played him, but as written even, he's a very sympathetic character. (A jealous fool, yes, but then again; they are all kind of foolish at times.)
It’s a credit to Lin’s writing too. Leslie will be the first to say that. The character was written to be ambiguous and to make you question the history you’ve been told… because it’s the winner that writes the history after all.
Can we get a shoutout for the guy who pulls the tablecloth while Burr only jumps like 2 inches in the air??
And with only one hand, too! I never noticed that until now.
I caught that at the first viewing and had to rewind because it was so smooth! I’ve watched this show ten times by now and I’m impressed each time. Wish I’d seen it live.
You have to credit Odom as well. He manages not to trip on that tablecloth as he is jumping.
I know I'm missing it - but why is the table cloth pulled away at the jump, is there a subtle meaning - I just know everything in this show is put there for good reason, but can't work this one out?
@@davesmith5470 i saw someone comment that he went from republican to democratic or maybe it was to signify him being a democratic-republican. Remember him singing about the two parties in, “it must be nice?”
Whether intentional or not, I think Lin Manuel Miranda's less polished vocals fit the character quite well thematically.
As someone who came from nothing, now hobnobbing among the elites, he carries a massive inferiority complex. It informs everything about him. He's always trying way too hard to escape His past and "rise above his station". His scratchy, less polished voice makes him stand out, and in my mind adds to to that feeling that he just doesn't quite belong. Feeding into that central theme.
Again, probably not intentional. But it still adds another layer to my engagement.
I so agree. He brings such a stayed or reserved performance that works well with the more dramatic performance. And I don't think its accidental. I think he's plays it just the way he wanted to. And it works, his performance gives so richness to the Hamilton character.
Same! I'm in no way an expert so I guess I don't care as much about technicalities, but I love how unrefined Hamilton's voice is.
YEEESSSSS
This, but also I think Lin being the mastermind behind this whole musical means that he brings a different kind of emotion to the role that another actor couldn’t. Say what you will about his voice but when he emotes on stage, I feel it
This !! I am happy other people also have this viewpoint on Lin , but as well as Alexander himself in the character aspect .
I'm no musical expert, but I think it's just incredible how there isn't a single moment you can point to in this show and say "That's the weakest bit." It's just consistently incredible. As for Lin, and I don't mean this as a criticism, just an observation, as a performer he's probably the closest to a weak link as they had. Because he made sure this cast was absolutely stacked with big, big guns. But you can't begrudge him his choice to keep Hamilton for himself, he certainly earned it and while he may not be the strongest performer technically he still does an incredible job. Just my very wordy opinions.
In regards to Lin, I think that’s very deliberate. Alexander Hamilton is the scrappy immigrant getting by using his words and his brains. He lacks the polish and refinement the other characters have. I think it’s shown in the characters and the actors portraying them.
I always found "Hurricane" to be pretty weak, but then I saw Javier Munoz perform it and it was MUCH better. I think it's just Lin's singing that is the weak point of any song. Plenty of characters can portray grief or joy without being desperately out of key.
@Christine Baynton I agree. He comes across as unpolished and unrefined among an educated bunch. He was the performer for the part.
From what I’ve seen, Lin originally didn’t want the Hamilton role, but the cast members convinced him to do it
DITTO Christine! The raw unpolished charisma of Lin in Hamilton is key and to me what made me love the play as relatable
"If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?" The exact thing Hamilton asked in the first song they met, Aaron Burr, Sir.
All comes full circle
Hamilton uses "wait for it" in a mocking way too in this song. There are so many callbacks throughout.
The genius of Lin Manuel - so many little callbacks (lyrics, melodies, hooks) to previous numbers.
Listen to the way he says it each time. When Hamilton asks that of Burr in the first act, it is more of an inquiry, like he's trying to get his head around what makes this guy tick. By the time we get to this song, Hamilton understands exactly who Burr is so when he asks the same question, it's delivered with more anger, like a challenge meant to provoke Burr.
second song....
@@Foxxy-td7ng the first song they met I mean
Everyone shits on Lin's performance but I really liked it! I'm not theater expert but I found he adds a lot of texture to Hamilton. Like when Philip dies, his sobbing feels so real and authentic.
I just think that his charisma makes the character likable, because Hamilton can be arrogante and a assh#le sometimes
It's because he can't hold a tune in the same way everyone else in the cast can so he seems really vocally deficient.
He's a speech singer, for sure! But oh, man, every time he cries, I cry too. It's like a reflex. Sad puppy face? BAM.
I always felt like his lack of singing ability kind of fit with the way he wrote the character. He's scrappy, trying to prove himself in a world where he doesn't quite fit, but he's authentic and passionate and relentless, so you appreciate him for what he brings to the table and let him stick around.
I believe I heard in an interview that he imagined losing his own son during those scenes making them so much more powerful. Just like in Dear Theodosia… that was his son’s bedtime song… so much so he thinks his mom wrote it. And Leslie would say a prayer for his potential future daughter every performance during his silent part of that song.
The actors put A LOT of themselves into these parts.
Also, Hamilton’s portrayal is partially modeled after Lin’s father. The man arrived in NYC not speaking a word of English and now he fundraises millions every year for the disadvantaged. I think Lin’s own connection to that comes through in a way that a technically better singer just can’t give.
It’s okay to have grit and imperfection in a character… including their singing voice.
A fun fact about the choreography. Burr/Leslie only walked in straight lines in till Room where it happens. Lin/Alexander always walked in curves. The reason for that was to show their ways of thinking. Burr always waited for it and when he knew it was the right choice he moved forward always walking in that straight line. The room where it happens messed with the way he thought and he started running in circles. Apparently even Lin Manuel Miranda didn't know about this. And the best part is there is so much more things hidden in the musical that you would need to watch it over and over and you still wouldn't have gotten everything. The why i love the musical so much! :)
That’s incredible
Wow! That is brilliant
I always liked Lin's singing. He isn't a strong vocalist, especially compared to the rest of the cast but he's really not as bad as the world likes to pretend. I get why they might prefer others, though. But to me every other person I've seen as Hamilton just lacked personality and a good singing voice isn't enough to make up for that. Lin on the other hand has that special kind of charm that fits the role so well 🤩
I agree, he’s what I class as a character singer, he allows the personality of his character to really show...he can absolutely carry a tune well enough to be in the lead position of this show but he’s not naturally gifted enough to be a flashy technical singer, luckily his character singing is incredibly strong and it’s where he really shines. I really dislike this whole thing in music where if you can’t belt you aren’t seen as a good singer, it took my university singing lecturer really sitting down and talking with me for me to realise I’m a good singer even though I can’t belt to save my life.
I thought it was good that our perspective of Hamilton as a person wasn’t formed exclusively but his voice. Like if he was an incredible singer, i wouldn’t have noticed his charm and charisma.
One thing I've always said is that Lin's singing is perfect for Hamilton. It's rough around the edges, it's not as refined as the others, and that totally fits the difference between Hamilton and the other main characters in the show. He's a poor immigrant who barely even had a college education while people like Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Burr, etc. are all basically American aristocracy with classical educations and who never had to struggle for what they had.
A technically superior voice isn't required to show emotion, movement and character in most genres (example: a whole lot of rock music). Lin absolutely has control: hits his notes, reveals nuances of feeling and thought, raps like a monster, and reveals his character, both solo and when interacting with other characters. His voice is intimate, revealing. Daveed's voice is also idiosyncratic--and it works. Adds multiple textures, dynamics, and interest.
I think the thing too many people don't realize is that Hamilton's "voice" is meant to be conveyed via hip hop. He shouldn't be the strongest singer because the character is excessively verbose, writing all the time, and rap music conveys that along with his relentless energy. That's why in my opinion, this role has to be played by a strong rapper, which Lin undoubtedly is. His singing is secondary. He often says that its easier for him to converse in rhyme than not at awards shows. He was perfect for this role, despite being the genius who created it.
I hope you do “What did I miss? “ eventually. Daveed was incredible. And “One Last Time” goodness Chris Jackson brought the heat!
@Kane Cantell riiiigggght? I could listen to him sing all day
@Kane Cantell the accuracy!
THAT man (Chris Jackson) DOES IT FOR ME. I cry EVERY time I hear "One Last Time" IS, and it will always be my favorite Hamilton song, and that's saying A LOT because all of the music is fabulous.
yeeess!! one last time, gives me goosebumps
I played What Did I Miss a ridiculous amount of times.
I heard someone say that when watching Hamilton, if you think of Burr as the main character instead of Alexander, the whole thing is shifted and Hamilton seems like the villain. This is one of the performances that really give off that feeling that Hamilton really is the villain of Burr's story
Although according to Chernow’s book Burr was by far the biggest assh$le.
Agree totally. I said when I watched it I felt bad for Burr cuz hes really hustling and Hamilton is kind of a jerk
I liked how I've seen it explained is Burr doesn't look as bad because this is his and Hamilton's story from his side. He's the one telling it from the beginning. It's why we don't know exactly what was said in "the room where it happened". Leslie does an amazing job playing him and being charming and slowly throughout the musical growing angry and jealous to finally guilt after shooting Hamilton. The musical is just so well thought out and carefully crafted.
They are both deep characters with wants, needs and flaws. None of them are really "the good guy". Both are highly immoral at times during the story and it's such a beautifully crafted dance they do around eachother, throughout their lives.
Great perspective. It's been said before, and I also agree that the ability to adopt the perspective of Burr as the main character has A LOT to do with Leslie Odom, Jr.'s performance. He's simply phenomenal. This makes it easier to adopt a compassionate point of view related to Burr.
Leslie's blocking throughout the show up to this point has been straight lines. After being asked "What do you want, Burr?", having to actually decide what he really wants, hetskes his first steps that are not in a straight line - that semi-circular move he makes back to the table. It's the first non-linear movement he makes in the show. It's just all such perfect genius. This whole show is a love letter for theatre people.
This move you speak of is the most fascinating to me because it goes the "wrong" way and I wondered how he moves like that. Your explanation nails it.
A lot of people apparently don’t like how Lin Manuel’s voice sounds. Personality I love that he can make Hamilton feel like a poor guy rising up and trying to fit into high society and it brings so much passion and displays the many relatable emotions Hamilton has, and I think his voice makes it so much more authentic Lots of musicals seem to have everyone singing very technically and perfectly and it seems to be too unattainable? Or fake? But I love that Lin can express the depths of one of his main characters in a way that makes you soften your harsh judgment and defend Hamilton’s choices bc you understand see why he does what he does.
Exactly. I don't think I could picture someone with a more polished, refined, classical voice doing Hamilton. It just wouldn't fit the character.
I love the way Hamilton mocks Burr with the "wait for it" and that's when the character switches. Lin Manuel is such a genius.
I definitely mouthed along to “Mr. Burr, Sir” too.
While I recognize that LMM's vocals were not nearly as strong as his counterparts in this show, I was always emotionally invested in his performance which is what I think is the most important part.
A lot of folks are talking about LMM's breath control and I just wanted to point out that, from what I understand of what my friends who both sing and rap tell me, the breath control required to rap onstage for any amount of time is different from the type of breath control needed for singing. If you notice, LMM is very controlled when he's rapping quickly (I'm thinking specifically of "My Shot" but I've seen him rap outside of Hamilton just on various RUclips vids and when he's rapping his breath is very controlled.) Daveed is similar. They seem breathy when they're singing, but when they rap -- no problems. I just wanted to chime in and say that. Also --- PLEASE review "What'd I Miss?" and "One Last Time." It's a crime that no one has done a reaction video to either of those songs. It hurts my heart ...
That is a really interesting insight, thanks for pointing that out!
Good point Heather.
When you mentioned this song being the musical equivalent of ''that one scene'' for a villain, all I could think of was Disney movies, specifically Scar's ''Be Prepared'', almost all villains get that one piece of music where, whether or not you like the character, it's always one of the best songs in the entire movie/musical.
I immediately thought of Hellfire from Hunchback of Notre Dame. An amazing piece which follows and lyrical piece by Quasimodo.
“Friends on the other Side” is another great example.
Yes! Or "poor unfortunate souls"
reminded me of Norm Lewis as Javier singing Stars.
I just wanna point out that 13:00 is the FIRST and only time in this number where Burr inserts himself into the conversation, the historic event and SEATS HIMSELF at the table where Madison, Hamilton and Jefferson were. He's got pride, arrogance and confidence in this moment to take what belongs to him no matter what the consequences.
Leslie elevated the show and intensified the song in that part for me. My HEART IS RACING and I want Burr to succeed after this song. Genius work of choreography and detail!
I love some of the more subtle things that Lin is great at. With this piece specifically listen to the sliminess exuding from him when he quotes Burr back to himself and the petty sarcasm with the "wait for it" line. That subtle emotion is so good and it's incredibly hard to get down but Lin seems to have it nailed throughout the show and specifically in this number.
I just caught the bit of choreo after Hamilton asks Burr what he wants, Burr slides in front of Hamilton essentially replacing him in the triad from the view of the audience. What an incredible way of using choreography to answer the question. He wants the power and respect that Hamilton commands even from those who oppose him. Phenomenal.
This song, especially, screams ‘triple threat’ to me, no wonder he won a Tony!! 🙌🏾😍
Love that you pointed out this is the point when you see Burr’s ambition and depth of his resentment. Man is Leslie Odom Junior a gift.
I love that you brought up the choreography!! I always really liked the moment that Burr jumps as the tablecloth is pulled away-in my mind it’s kind of like the rug is pulled out from under him as he is stepping into the moment as the true villain who just wants power for the sake of having the power. Loved the video (and an excuse to watch the performance again!).
Someone in another reaction video I saw pointed out something I hadn't really took note of before: when the "red" tablecloth is pulled out and Leslie lands back on it, the table is now lit "blue" by the overhead lighting thereby highlighting the point when Burr decides to change his alligiance from one political party to another. Which logically leads right into the next song "Schuyler Defeated". Just so freakin' subliminally genius! I agree that Lin, Leslie and Andy Blankenbuler's Tony awards are very much well deserved!! Also why I can't get enough of "Hamilton" reviews.....
Until this song, all of Burr's movements around the stage are in straight lines.
I love the part where Burr backs off when Hamilton says, “You get nothing if you wait for it” because he’s being confronted with the one mantra he’s been telling Hamilton the whole time
Yeah, and his strange posture after he backs off is interesting
That was brilliant.
I 100% love that Burr is SO shocked in the moment when Hamilton finally recognizes him as the narrator breaking that 4th wall.
Leslie Odom Jr is a force of nature!!!
My favorite thing about that final pose is how it tells a story.
It mirrors the classic Hamilton pose and they both represent their respective character perfectly.
Hamilton is loud, outgoing, and always willing to call his shot and announce his intention and his pose says that. He has a wide chest, wide stance, broad shoulders, pointing straight up letting everyone know his goal is the top and his face looks forward at us as a challenge. His pose says "I'm going to make a difference, come try to stop me."
Burr on the other hand has an equally iconic pose that also sums him up perfectly. His pose is a bit more restrained, even in a moment of excitement or celebration he doesn't let himself show too much. His legs feel more planted and he points at the ground where he stands as if to say "I'll wait right here for my opportunity and I'm not going anywhere. I will not budge from this spot." Which in his mind seems like the right answer, but if he never budges... he never gets anywhere. He keeps his head down hoping to not draw attention to himself in stark contrast to A. Ham.
It's a cool detail how two simple poses sum up the whole story and their characters and their flaws and strengths perfectly with no words. Just two simple silhouettes.
Amazing.
An EXCELLENT observation!
I agree with you 100%!💚👍
Watching you mouthing along while you listen is my fav, every theater kid is right there with you. Esp with LMM, it's impossible to not sing along!
My favourite is when Marc mouths "Click boom" at the end! :D
I think one of the reasons I love Burr so much is because Leslie is clearly having such a fun time playing him. It just bring life to an already incredible song
Greatest Disney Villain song tbh. My favourite part is when Hamilton goes "wait for it wait for it" and Burr's reaction to it (I actually always thought that part is all in Burr's head, like in his head Hamilton is a demon mocking him)
Yes! Definitely a moment I appreciate more after seeing the show. The way Hamilton looks at him mockingly while saying it, using Burr's own words against him.
I love this, I definitely agree that it all seems to be in burrs head here
oh my gosh yes, I love how when Hamilton mocks him, he runs in fear. I feel like it's the real catalyst for the change to taking what he wants. He's done with what he perceives to be Hamilton bullying him and taking every opportunity Burr wanted. It's the last straw
This has always reminded me of a Disney villain song too!
I get chills every time I see this number. When Burr starts to let go and his ambition starts to take over, Leslie just presents a Tony award Master class🤯❤️
I agree with this. For me I get the chills every time from after he jumps down from the table onwards.
LMM is so expressive I couldn't help but empathize with him throughout the whole show. Not the strongest singer but his acting made up for it, and I find myself appreciating his performance more each time I watch. His delivery of Hamilton's final monologue was especially enthralling (you should react to it!).
Totaly agreed! He is just realy charismatic!
As someone said above I believe LMM knows he isn't the strongest performer but just like Hamilton he's surrounded by high class skilled people and all he has to work with is his charisma and his words
Don't get me wrong I love his performance as Hamilton and always sing along
Gotta agree on the not the best singer part. Absolutely love Lin but when it comes to singing there were many on that Hamilton stage who outshone him. Still, he is an incredible actor, which I was reminded of watching His Dark Materials, it really blew me away.
Final monologue is 🔥
@@charlottecunningham2141 especially at times like "Hurricane" LMM absolutely makes you feel what the character is going through, even if he is not quite on the level of singing technique some of.the others are. More substance, even if he has less flash.
I love the fact that at the end he points down like the opposite of Hamilton In his signature pose with his hand in the air
I'm also glad to see that Hamilton won the best lighting Tony. Technical can make or break a show, and in this case, the lighting was another major character in moving the story along. I didn't particularly appreciate the show the first time I saw it, but I've come to appreciate it more and more over time. It really is so unique and each character has so many nuances worth investigating.
I saw Hamilton in MD in the mezzanine, and the view of the stage with the lighting and choreography was amazing. I was saddened to read the OBC Tony-winning lighting director had died.
Leslie Odom Jr is absolutely FLAWLESS. Effortless, immeasurably talented, every small gesture and beautiful vocal performance, he is EVERYTHING in this show!
Dude can sing, act and dance with the best of anyone. Talk about a triple threat indeed
This song/performance gives me CHILLS every time I hear it!! I saw Hamilton in NY, and it was incredible!! Leslie Odom nails this beyond belief!
I absolutely LOVE how soft/breathless Burr songs have been throughout play until this part when his voice becomes nearly guttural, as if he's choking on ambition. AMAZING! 😫😫😫
This is a great number and I love the next 2 min in the show. Leslie goes off stage and comes back a minute later and is still hardly able to breathe. Then he sits in the cabinet meeting and wipes the sweat from his face. It just proves how demanding that number is and he pulled it off 7-8 times a week!
I wanted more Hamilton reactions, but I've had to wait for it.
My favorite parts of the reactions are watching YOU get lost in the performance, mouthing along to the songs. Your passion for theatre makes me envious of the actors you coach!
He seemed so excited and drawn in
Haha, its a horrible habit, but thank you! :)
I remember reading something about the choreography for Burr and Hamilton that I found incredibly interesting, and that just added an extra layer onto these already incredible performances. Specifically, about how they walk.
Hamilton is rarely still, often wandering or pacing to mirror his "non stop" approach to life. He's also a lot more erratic in how he moves - going in circles, moving around things, changing direction part way - once again reflecting how he rushes towards every opportunity as he sees it, sometimes recklessly so, and often without thinking through the consequences.
In contrast, Burr walks almost exclusively in straight lines. Sometimes it's forwards, backwards or sideways, but he's always incredibly direct in his movements. He observes what's happening around him, he makes a decision, and then he follows through with it with purpose and with a straight, dignified posture. And when he does change direction, it's a deliberate pivot, not a wide, circular turn like Hamilton tends to do.
It's a subtle but incredibly effective way to convey to the audience a lot about these character and how they differ from each other ('Non Stop' is a really good song to demonstrate this contrast).
However, this all changes in 'The Room Where It Happened'. Burr starts out walking in the straight, calculated lines, but as the song goes on and he gets more flustered by what is happening and frustrated at his lack of power, those deliberate movements start to break down. His pivots become turns, his straight lines become curved, he begins to pace a bit like Hamilton does. And then ... the big turn. He practically runs in a circle, then loops around the back of the table to lounge in the chair. His movements become almost frenzied, low and quick and so unlike the carefully planned gestures that we're used to. And all of this comes as he finally decides to stop waiting and to go after what he wants, to "be in the room where it happens". As Marc says, "This is now where Burr drops every ounce of righteousness he has and really just shows his true colours."
Burr is still very deliberate in the way he walks after this, but if you compare his movements in 'Non Stop' to 'The Election of 1800' you can really see a difference. Specifically, in the latter he tends to get distracted by what people are saying about him as he walks past, and sort of doubles back and loops around them and changes course in reaction to what they're saying. For the first time he's concerned about public opinion and populism, rather than acting purely on what will have the greatest benefit for him (or rather, pose the least risk to him) in an entirely political realm.
It's incredibly subtle choreography (certainly when compared to the dance numbers) that I wouldn't have ever picked up on without reading about it, but I think still subconsciously had an influence on how I perceived the characters. And I'm sure there are many, many other subtle aspects of the choreography, the lyrics, costumes, set design, acting choices, etc, that I've completely missed on a conscious level that just add to the overall brilliance of this production.
This song is definitely where Burr’s composure and self control finally cracks and he goes round the bend.
That’s what I would love you to analyze is how the music shows how Burr unravels throughout the show.
I never noticed before, but when they click glasses together, it's like something clicks in Burr's brain.
Every time you release a Hamilton vid, I'm compelled to go watch again.
I love this performance. As far as LMM, I would argue his performance keeps the pace of the show. Some of the most memorable lines are from him. From the moment he says, Mr. Burr sir, he has control over the pace of the plot. He isn't the best singer but he doesn't need to be. Perhaps the point of the show is the person you wouldn't expect to move things forward or believe has the talent and status (i.e Alexander Hamilton himself) absolutely can.
“You don’t get a win unless you play in the game. You get nothing if you wait for it, wait for it.”
In “Wait For It” Burr talked about how Hamilton doesn’t hesitate, he just takes and he takes, and now here Hamilton gets to say the same thing but from his perspective.
Meanwhile Hamilton is about to start learning, in the hardest ways, that "death doesn't discriminate between the sinners and the saints; it takes and it takes and it takes..."
I've always loved how when he says "click boom then it happens" he's looking at it as an outsider, but at the end, HE has the gun, and he fires the bullet that makes his future, the tragedy, inevitable. "click, BOOM" is the gunshot already fired, that kills Hamilton later.
One moment that I absolutely love after someone in the comments of another video pointed out is the last couple of seconds of this song. At the very end of the number, the piano plays "Alexander Hamilton", to which Burr responds with "click, boom" and points down (rivaling Hamilton's point up to signal him refusing to shoot in their duel). The foreshadowing moment is amazing and well brought in. It has become one of my favorite moments from the whole show.
Maybe it is because I really fell in love with Leslie's voice in this musical more than I had ever been before, but I think Wait For It and The Room Where It Happened are my favorite songs in the whole show. So often you will get the acting or you get the voice, but with Leslie, you get both at a world class level.
Leslie is honestly such a stunning performer
Lin may be the weakest vocalist in the show but I believe he is the best actor. The way he delivers his lines is amazing, you can really tell what Hamilton is feeling every time. He is so talented
I agree! I like to poke fun at his sob-singing, but his rapping is incredible, as are his every movement, expression, and mannerism. He really does sell it!
This is just so brilliant. I love Leslie's strength, just as I love Lin's vulnerability.
I like the choroghephy when LMM "but you get nothing if you wait for it" Burr now sees it as quicksand and runs and falls to his needs. I love that part. I was finally out of the Hamilton rabbit hole, now I'll watch it again.
This is my favorite scene of this my FAVORITE play!! This scene is the most theatrical scene ever!! So Beettle Juice-Lesk...so “fantasmagoric”...You can literally SEE how Burr reveals his true colors, his envy, his thirst for power...the music, the coreo...is just PERFECTION!!! Standing ovation EVERY SINGLE TIME!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
The fact that Lin wrote the songs and composed it in such a way that made Burr the narrator and almost the lead character is part of his brilliance. I can't think of many stars that would have that clarity of mind not to just give themselves the juiciest roles and songs.
If you pay close attention to the piano on the last scene, just before the CLICK BOOM part, Alex Lacamoire plays the "Alexander Hamilton" motif, foreshadowing Hamilton being shot by Burr in the end. This show is a masterpiece in all fronts.
I have been sick for over a year, and so incredibly frustrated at my inability to cry or change things. THANK YOU GOD FOR HAMILTON!!!!! We’re it not for this musical I would not have the vehicle to cry with joy and the BRILLIANCE and WONDER of every griffin detail-particularly of this number!! Odum’s command of himself, the song arc, and his body moves brings me to tears of gratitude and amazement. And, they say that art can’t change lives! I’m joining Disney AGAIN 🤣🤣 to watch Hamilton for the seventh time. Thank you, MarkDavidPatrick for emphasizing the spot-on choreo. In endless gratitude for your service here ❤️💜💙
"The art of the compromise,
Hold your nose and close your eyes.
We want our leaders to save the day
But we don't get a say in what they trade away.
We dream of a brand new start
But we dream in the dark for the most part.
Dark as a tomb where it happens,
I want to be in the room where it happens."
Incredible.
I was avoiding unpacking my boxes at my new place. I put on Hamilton "to ignore" (you know when you need background noise to stay on track so you choose something you've seen or heard a million times so you don't get distracted?) And instead, thanks to your commentary on this song, I found myself OBSESSIVLY watching Leslie's face throughout the entire show and I kept capturing little smirks, little frowns, subtle changes to his demeanor in almost every second he's on stage, even when he's not front and center.
Just like The Last 5 Years, I blame you for me not getting anything done yesterday lol.
The breakdown after the “what will you fall for” I think symbolizes Burrs breaking point. It’s from this point on he changes is mentality from “wait for it” to Hamilton’s “Not throwing away my shot”. Hence why he goes from saying “Want to be” to “Got to be” toward the end of the song. The following scene, Burr adapts Hamilton’s endless climb and takes Phillip Schuyler’s seat in the Senate, and so on and so forth.
Leslie just makes it look effortless. It's like he just glides over the stage and sings like an angel.
Leslie Odom Jr. is my favorite singer on the whole show. Burr is one of my favorites. Wait for it is the best song followed by The Room Where It Happens and Dear Theodosia. Absolutely beautiful
Dear Theodosia is probably the most underrated song in the entire musical. That melody is just perfect. Maybe because by the time that Hamilton came out I had a small daughter and I could completely empathize with Burr, but Leslie's delivery is just smooth and perfect and that melody is so dang perfect (did I say that already? it bears repeating. Repeatedly). There are no bad songs in this show. There's no weak spot
What really gets me in this number is that the audience is more in the know than Burr is. He asks “did Washington know about the dinner/was there presidential pressure to deliver?” Um, yup. Washington already told Hamilton to get the deal done. We know it. Burr doesn’t.
The lighting design in this number is very unique and very specific, so interesting to look at (after you've already watched the number a bunch times!).
The room where it happens is incredible. But "Satisfied" coupled with the dancing and acting and visual effects on stage is the pinnacle of the show.... imo
Everyone can relate to 'Satisfied'
Satisfied to me is the number most enhanced by the visuals of the show rather than just listening to the cast recording. The way they designed the flashback is one of my favorite moments.
See and I find satisfied to be one of the less powerful parts of the musical. I don't know that I could genuinely pick a song I don't like from this musical but I kind of feel like that definitely is my least favorite. Wait For It and The Room Where It Happened are my two favorites. I find them infinitely more relatable than Satisfied.
Completely agree
I just found your page and omg I love it. Leslie is amazing and my favorite character and so much respect for his performance. Every song he sings ESPECIALLY this song gives me chills through the whole song. You asked about lin's performance. I feel like no one else could have performed it with so much passion and the vision he had for Alexander.
I learn a lot from your comments, Marc. Thanks for breaking it apart the way you do as it increases my already over-the-top love for this show.
Both of Burr's big songs, and the way the character is written, show him to be the kind of person who, though, intelligent, waits for the world to recognize his potential and come to him, rather than a person who goes after what he wants to achieve.
I love this comment, it made me think a lot about how Burr and Hamilton are both ambitious characters affected by the different circumstances of their upbringings. Burr, born into privilege, seems to feel that he's entitled to the power and opportunities that he wants, and I think it's really easy to see him view Hamilton, who has struggled from childhood to reach his own goals, as an interloper seizing the things that are rightfully his. And in this part of the show he's finally spurred on -- lowering himself to Hamilton's level? -- to be proactive instead of just waiting for it.
I love how Hamilton takes all Burr's character leimotivs during the show until this point and throws them in his face making fun of Burr choices and ultimately making him to change the course of his actions. It's brilliant. And Leslie is everything ❤️
You know, until I watched this video, I hadn't noticed that the choreo was repeating like in Winter's Ball/Satisfied. I'm glad you pointed it out.
This song is what convinced me to finally listen to the whole ass Hamilton Soundtrack just so I could understand the context of such a catchy villain song.
And it did not disappoint when I got there. Damn, it's just so good. SO well directed and performed. Burr is such a compelling and relatable villain.
Leslie is such a great singer.
I remember when the musical finally came out on Disney+, I watched it with my mom and sister. My mom was starting to wonder why the guy who plays Burr gets all the awards and praise-- and then this song happened. And she was like "oooh, that's right".
Hamilton is one of my favorite's and...I have never seen it. It is because of you and the excerpts you feature that make this musical one I wish I had seen. Watching the performers, hearing the performers and watching your reactions provide me with as close as the total experience as I will get. What impacted me in this segment was how the choreography, Aaron Burr and the orchestra all crescendo and climax in perfect synchronization. Brilliantly executed! Thank you Marc for always providing enriching experiences that motivate me to analyze, think and simply enjoy. What would I like to see in the future? I believe you know. You!
Chills every time I see it. Lin's writing, Andy's choreo and, most importantly, Leslie's inspired performance. I've tried to watch it with understudies, replacements and actors in other productions and it's just not the same. Leslie Odom Jr. seemed almost possessed during this number and just left the Tonys with no choice.
1000% agree
What I love about Marc Daniel's reaction videos is the rich commentary he provides showing his deep understanding of musical theatre. I'm not an actor but I cannot get enough of the insight from Marc. Bravo!
More Leslie Odom Jr? I've never clicked on a video so hard.
The way Leslie runs to the table and sits down during "The art of the compromise - hold your nose and close your eyes" is probably my favourite visual moment in the musical. Top 3, at the least. It's just so SMOOTH, but it simultaneously feels almost mechanical, especially in contrast with his somewhat wild movements up until that point. Like there's an instant "snap" compelling him to immediately go to the table and sit down, all in a picture-perfect manner. Like a magnet being drawn to a respective magnetic field. It's mesmerizing to look at
I've thought from the first time I watched Hamilton that Lin's vocals in certain places are lacking. But as time's gone on and I've watched it over and over, and listened to vocal coaches discuss how vocals build into the character it seems more as though the way he sings those parts was probably intentional and speaks to what Ham is going through, where he's at mentally and his emotions. Honestly, the whole play was so well written and delivered. I'm so obsessed, my family don't get why. It's a masterpiece and the only play I've ever wanted to see live.
The song also kinda mimicked satisfied with the characters showing different sides how when they sang they all end with Hamilton leaving Burr to go to the meeting makes you really legit what happened in that room
I really don't know why there is so much hate on LLMs performance. I love every bit of it and even tho he's not the best singer - he's one of the best actors. In every single scene he's playing it so perfect and i couldn't imagine any other Hamilton. Every insecurity, every sassy conversation and every sad sobbing moment is just incredible and fulfills me with so many emotions. So please don't bash him only for his singing, because I think it fits in the overall picture just perfectly and is perfect for Hamiltons character!
i feel like because he's surrounded by such strong vocalists people see him as an awful singer. Idk i think it fits even tho hes not the best singer, he still was an amazing hamilton.
I’ve always felt that “If you stand for nothing Burr, what will you fall for?” Is not just Lin checking a ‘musical call back’ box but a memory of Burr’s in this moment. The accusational way it’s delivered is how he remembers it/how he has internalised it.
One of my favorite details is Jefferson’s limp. I noticed it like a month ago. I was watching and was like “nice pimp walk” and then was like “wait now there must be a reason for that because everything in this show is so intentional” ... I googled it an sho nuff...
I love how you point out in your videos how the filmed performances capture things you miss in the seats; then, in this you point out how the choreography is amazing, and, as if on cue, the next portion you play is the Jefferson part of the song (which perfectly highlights both points of praise).
It's no secret that Lin isn't a great Broadway singer, but he is such a brilliant composer that we can forgive his performance.
I think Lin's best performance happens during "It's quite Uptown". He just makes me want to cry 💜
I loved his performance! At first I was thrown because he’s not an amazing singer but then I just fell in love with it! It just makes his performance seem so sincere and makes it easier to root for him even when he makes mistakes. Absolutely brilliant I don’t think I could ever see it played by anyone else now :(
i love the structure of this song because it's written like you'd write a paper or a debate. 1) tell them what you're going to tell them, 2) tell them and support it with facts, 3) tell them what you told them.
Lin played Hamilton PERFECTLY imperfect. He's not polished and so you can't expect him to be this powerhouse singer. Hes SUPPOSED to be scrappy. So Lin, whether he can sing or not, it FITS.
These videos are fast becoming a highlight of my week!
Well thank you sir.
I think my two favorite performance's of Lin's are his counterpoint with Phillipa Soo in "Helpless" and Jasmine in "Say no to his". Also the first rap battle with Jefferson.
I always felt like Jefferson was the Villain in this musical, and the opening number of Act Two, "What did I miss?" was like his villain song/mirror or Hamiltons entrance at the beginning of Act One.
"Leslie absolutely disappears in this part of the number for me." 💯 Agree
The true genius part about this number when you look at the choreo alone, you can see Burr's character transition from straight movements to circular ones. He goes from the disciplined and deliberate body language, to an impulsive and sweeping body language. He transforms as a character during this number.
The real finale choreo is immediately before he sits down at the table. He goes from a single point and quickly spirals outward to stop and sit at the lone chair at the table instead of walking directly there.
This one of my many favorites that I was patiently waiting for! Another Hamilton song I would love to see you react to would be Daveed Diggs 'What did i miss" and Christopher Jackson's "One last time"
Lin gives his gifts to his fellow cast members to let them shine. He has acknowledged he is not the strongest singer or dancer. To work with a composer and lyricist like Lin is golden.
This was the musical equivalent of The Lion King’s “Be Prepared” with Scar.
I love this performance because it gives me the craziest Joker vibes. It’s the first time Burr bluntly tells the audience “I want this”. And he goes mad from start to finish. And if you peep him sitting in Hamilton’s seat, showing he doesn’t just want to be in the room, he wants HIS seat.
Leslie is phenomenal in Hamilton. And I had to laugh when you said you were going to view the ending again bcuz I was getting ready to rewind the video to see that part again but I also wanted to hear what you were saying. Lol. Love your videos and insight.👍
I just have to say that your commentary is giving me an even greater appreciation for these brilliant performances. Thanks!