I own several DeWalt tools, all of them are 30 or so years old. Just a few weeks ago I replaced the power cords on my drill and grinder. They had deteriorated like the one on your grinder. I bought 2 OEM cords from Amazon for about 12 bucks each and replaced the old ones. Took about 15 minutes each. could not use the original connectors in the tool so i just cut them long enough to splice the new cables, covered the splices with shrink tubing. reassembled and put them to use. I suspect those tools will outlast me!
Nice work 👍. I ended up doing a quick heat shrink tubing repair, but I ended up ordering brushes. I am already back using it, but I think I will do what you did and order a new longer cord. The plug end was falling apart anyway. It’s nice to have tools that last 😀.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. FA is always super interesting, to nerds like me at least The sparkly junk in the Dewalt grease was almost certainly their 7-herbs-and-spices EP grease with ~4-6% Moly content. I can't tell from over the internets to test for tactility, but if it's the grease I'm thinking of, fresh out of the box it doesn't really adhere any of the transmission gear train. When it gets up to temp, it gets more viscous and as the tool breaks in, the MS2 platelets embed itself into where mother earth wants it to be. I remember seeing that gear set too (mg Gear?), if so I think I know what almost exactly which generation that DeWalt is from. They had just moved over to powdered metal gears. Those power cords are rugged. Like super rugged. Keep them, even if you're not going to keep the tools. The Dewalt is especially rugged. My suggestion as how to repair it. 1: Buy heatshrink from Raychem or Ancor. You'll need two sizes-one for the outer sheathing (to approximately fit the outside diameter of the wire) and then a second heat-shrink size-to fit the hot-neutral conductors. Search for the best deals you can find. It's expensive but they're ..just the best. Better than 3M (their industrial lineman stuff--not their Home Depot Super 33 stuff haha) or Dupont even. 2: Any where there are frays or knicks, take an exact-o knife and remove that 1/8" or what not, the goal being to save as much wire as possible. 3: For both sides- strip back outer shielding so you're down to the center shield surrounding the neutral/hot (if there is one) or so you're at the shielding of the hot/neutral itself. You want the outer sheathing ultimately to be 1/4" maybe 3/8" or so behind the hot/neutral wires, on both sides. Strip neutral and hot wires so you've got a comfortable enough amount of room to splice hot on the tool side hot on the plug side. Same for neutral. 4: Before you splice, size your heat shrink (one on your new hot splice, one on your new neutral splice, and one for the outer conductor). Place all 3 shrink tubes on which ever end you prefer. Just remember to put them on. It's like running ni-cop break lines-- unless you keep hammering it into your head, you'll forget a flare fitting and be in your garage till 1AM. 5: Splice however you see fit (connectors; solder 63/37 lead/tin; the industrial way is to cold-form-- if you have access to a hydraulic crimper, anneal the copper if brittle, while it air cools slowly, go find a die that fits for your wire, and boom. No brittleness at all!) 6: Heatshrink!
I've got 4 Bosch grinders (2 large body, 2 small body) and agree with you on the lousy paddle switch design, even the paddle switch with the lock on button is just a pain to set then if you bump the paddle just slightly, it trips off the lock and the grinder stops. I have just an average hand size and the larger body grinders are uncomfortable to use. I will say the smaller Bosch grinders, around 7 amps or so, are easy to maneuver and plenty strong for their size so they'll stay on the bench but probably going Metabo. Great review, love your channel, cheers!
I didn’t even know about the lock on button until after I put the video out, since I never used it lol. Not surprising at all that it doesn’t work the best, it still has to be better than holding the paddle. That sucker is an arthritis generator holding onto that paddle and giant body lol.
i have a dewalt for about 10 years now,sounded like a bucket of bolts from day one but still going strong,iv got a couple of bosch with the paddle switch you showed here still going strong what drew me to buying them was these ones i got are variable speed really handy, some thing i notice i pulled the heads off all my grinders to clean and replace the grease seemed on all of them the grease was backed in the cavity not even touching the gears
I have actually never used a variable speed angle grinder, do you find that feature useful? As far as the grease, I am not surprised at what you found. Much like using grease instead of oil in a rear axle would likely not work well, the grease slings off the rotating bevel gear. Dewalt seemed to have a high moly grease that was thin, and it coated everything decent. I have seen straight up red grease which tends to fly off and offer minimal protection. I am kind of surprised they all don’t have thin liquids with moly or something.
Strange, as a professional fabricator I found out that Bosch and Metabo are the best even in harsch conditions (and I mean very hard conditions). I've started 24 years ago with Dewalt, but after 2 weeks my hammerdrill stopped working (plastic coupling destructed, why the hell use plastic gears?), after 3-4 weeks both grinders( big and small one) went wobbly, I had done some carpenter work besides and the Dewalt jigsaw couldn't saw for more then 2 cm in a straight line in material more then a cm thick. I threw everything away and started to find out witch machine's where the best for the job. Heavy drilling AEG/AtlasCopco, light drilling and screwing AEG and Bosch, sawing Festool, grinding Bosch and Metabo. I tried Milwaukee drill's (for two times, but the grip of the chuck was terrible and the chuck itself went wobbly within 3 months. Ive had 3 grinders from Milwaukee and they also went wobbly and the 125 cm only starts when it wants too...Makita is reasonable I have a few of them, but they are a bit chuncky compared to the Bosch with the same amount of power. Now I only use them in the shop, but not on service jobs.
From what people are saying it sounds like Bosch makes better tools than what the box stores sell, and the one in the video is a box store version. It definitely ate a massive amount of mortar dust and still works, so it’s durable. I do own Bosch rotary hammer drills, a multi tool, and a few other tools that still work and have had no issues. All of them are about 10 years old though.
The brainbox on the Bosch likely contains a soft-start circuit and some overload/temperature protection but idk, since I haven't used it. The spiral bevel gear is also present in all Makitas I've disassembled; it engages much smoother, but it needs better grease, since there's some sliding across the tooth faces. The Bosch gear is sintered, compared to hobbed for the DeWalt.
Great thoughts and great catch on the sintered vs Hobbed. I wonder if the current version of the Dewalt (which looks identical but is newer manufacture date) still uses the same gear setup. Seems like a far more expensive option.
@@makingmistakeswithgregEven if sintered, the gears will outlast the electricals by a long shot. They have to be robust and hardened. Last dewalt I saw disassembled was on a BOLTR from AvE and it had sintered gears. Good grease, too, had lots of molybdenum disulfide. YMMV.
You are correct about Bosch, last 3 tool's took a dump in the last year, the last one day! angle grinder head got so hot you couldn't touch it, took it back and got my money back, Yellow is OK but I am still pissed because they screwed us 18v tool owners over so no Dewalt for me ever again. interestingly I bought a Porter Cable 7.5 Amp 4.5 grinder on Amazon for $ 45 buck, was so impressed I bought two more. only thing I don't like is the bearing carrier for the spindle is poly plastic, will it hold up to being dropped? we shall see. it seems kind of cheap at $45 but so far they are holding up. I miss the old school Soux grinders they were 9" of pure hell on a electrical cord but ran for EVER and rebuildable.
What happened with the Dewalt 18v tool system that people got screwed? About 9 or so years ago I had to buy into a system because Bosch (which was my go to tool company) didn’t seem to have competitive cordless tools to Milwaukee/dewalt/makita. I like makita tools but they didn’t have a bunch of specialty tools I knew I wanted. Between dewalt and Milwaukee I went Milwaukee and like them overall. They have had some dud tools though. Porter cable used to make some solid tools too, I have a bunch of older routers and wood working tools from them that are awesome.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Dewalt dropped the 18v line (I talked to a Dewalt factory rep at a vendor meet at farm and fleet after they announced the change, asked him why, he said "Dewalt didn't want to carry both lines, SORRY, so I said" but aren't we getting screwed? " he looked around," yea") , forcing you to rebuy your tool's or buy bulky 18v to 20v adapters, I have 14 different 18v tool's, now I have to get batteries rebuilt and even those are drying up or pay $125 for one OEM 18v battery (if you can find them) once one of my 18v tools die it's a new tool with a different battery, sure 20v Dewalt is better but not that much and starting over replacing 14 tool's at my age is absolutely insane. it's the primary reason I went back to corded tools now , 120v will be around a long time. On the other side of one is starting out it's not a big deal (until Dewalt switches it up again) I should have started out with Milwaukee but who knew. Personally I believe these companies are doing what printer companies do, the profit is in ink cartridges not the printers themselves, $125 for a battery? that only last a few years.
I don't own any Bosch but own plenty of corded and cordless DeWalt. Ive been phasing them out as needed for Hercules which have been holding their own along with some Bauer that didn't have a Hercules version of the tool yet. Not excited to have 4 battery platforms (Kobalt 40v&80V for the yard) but glad I switched from DeWalt. I have the Hercules 15 amp (absolute torq monster) and their 13 amp trigger grips along with the paddle switch 20V in Hercules and Bauer. I buy the tools I need or might need eventually when I'm working overtime and they are marked down and have never regretted it. Thanks for another great video. I love the take it apart, fix/improve, see how it works content.
A bunch of people seem to be switching to Hercules tools, I might have to try one out. I like Milwaukee and have all their stuff, but it’s hard to justify the prices. Maybe I should do a comparison on their Hercules grinder to their 9.99$ on sale special 😅. I bet their Hercules is pretty decent, I bet it’s better than the Bosch in the video lol.
Brain box will be stuff like soft start, anti restart (so if you have a power outage, it doesnt come back up on repower) and maybe also some sort of constant speed feature that reduces bogging. I think the big metabos have this. Strange thing is, Grinders with those features also have variable speed, because if you put the power electronics, you may as well use them....heh
I think you’re right on the brain box. You brought up a good point, why have all that stuff and no variable speed. I have never owned a variable speed grinder so I am not sure how much of a benefit that is. The soft start isn’t a bad idea to have, when you get into bigger grinders they tend to trip breakers or torque out of your hand.
This tracks for my experience with a newer Bosch grinder as well. It's the first tool I handed to my wife and asked her to sell for me and what made me look into Metabo to replace my other cheaper grinders. Meanwhile I have two inexpensive DeWalt grinders I'll be keeping for the long haul. The Bosch was fine for awhile then it developed an awful rattle that would make your hands numb to use. It was a pretty awful experience and I won't be buying Bosch anytime soon.
It’s crazy how a company that was so well known for making solid tools and competing with other high end companies has become a shell of its former self. Unfortunate really.
Yeah even Metabo makes a good share of their tools in China now, too. But most of the angle grinders still come from a factory in Germany. There's a nice factory tour on RUclips, i think it's even worth a watch for non German speakers!
Glad to hear they may have improved things. No joke that Bosch grinder I have is so big it’s hard to hold. I might have to get a hold of something newer from them.
I’ve got five of those DeWalts. I really do like them. Nothing bad to say about them. I also have a really old one and a battery powered one. The only thing I wish they did differently is that the old one has a third handle screw hole on the top of the gear housing as well and it does come in handy at times. I bought the battery model simply because sometimes a cord gets in the way, or is just a foot short. I also have a cheap Harbor Freight $15 one on sale for $10. I just use that for 2” Roloc disks with an adapter Jody from welding tricks and tips mentioned years ago, which is made here. That grinder isn’t that powerful but is smaller and light weight. Roloc disks do t overburden it, but the push thumb switch is tiring. DeWalt has higher priced grinders that have soft start and overload detection and turnoff. I imagine that needs some sort of electronics and sensors. A helical greasing is more expensive to make. But the gear engages over time instead of smacking into each other all at one. It also transmits more power.
The third handle hole is a hard one to find on modern grinders. I never had the luxury of that but I could see how it would be good to have. I can see why you would have 5 of those grinders, the fact a used tool in a shop was still working enough that I could inherit it and put it to use is saying a lot lol. I think you’re right on the Bosch monitoring temp and having soft turn on. I completely forgot about the fact it doesn’t hit max rpm and torque out of your hand right away. Then again it doesn’t shut off when you get debris in the paddle so it’s still a liability lol.
Modern day Dewalt is made by Stanley Black and Decker with manufacturing in USA, Mexico and China. Modern day Bosch power tools are made by Chervon (Chervon is headquartered in Shenzhen, China). Chervon high end tools are made in Germany with other tools in Vietnam. Chervon also makes Skil / Skilsaw and Kobalt power tools for Lowes.
Bosch have least tools made in China.Bosch tools are made in Germany,Malaysia,Hungry and China now.They also have factories in Russia but now they closed because of war.Angle grinders and hammers are made in Germany only entry level are made in China,Cordless drills Malaysia etc.Other companies for example Makita have only few tools made in Japan,China mostly,Hilti China,Dewalt China,Milwaukee China of course (TTI owned),Metabo have some tools still made in Germany but they also China owned now along with Hitachi (Hikoki now).Hitachi + Koki = Hikoki,they don’t have weights oh Hitachi name.
I have five Dewalt angle grinders. I spent months making that decision... and if you knew me at all. You would know how much I hate Stanley Black and Decker. My grinders must have a thumb switch that can stay on or operate as a momentary switch. A cord that is longer than 5'. A cord that is high quality rubber as PVC is never allowed. Ultimately I found a reasonable grinder but in typical cost cutting fashion it had a short power cable. Well my original grinder had 12' cord. So I went parts hunting and ordered four power cords to go with my four new grinders. Each grinder has a dedicated task. Grinding. Cut Off. 36 Grit Flap. Wire wheel. One left for various finer grit flap disks.
No doubt they seem to be able to make a solid grinder. I am with you on not being a fanboy of the Stanley/b&d. I find it strange at how much thought they put into that grinder and the fact it’s more or less a standout amount grinders, yet they don’t take that approach to everything they make. I have never owned many yellow tools but a few of the ones out there are definitely are solid.
I remember reading that a bushing can take much higher load than a bearing, and being inside the gearbox lubrication shouldn't be a problem. Although in this case it's probably just a cost cutting measure. Also Bosch does make lock-on version of the paddle switches I believe.
I had to look at the back of that grinder, it does indeed have a lock on function on the end (never noticed it). The bushing could probably handle more load, and it doesn’t seem overly worn out despite a lot of abuse. I am not sold on the idea, but at the same time it seems to work. I didn’t mention it in the video but the Bosch seems to have far more drag when you spin the output shaft. I don’t believe it’s the due to the bushing, and all the bearings moved freely, so who knows exactly. It does run smooth though.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg after I got mine I opened the head and cleaned out the grease and used red bearing grease instead. Definitely a decent improvement.
I have a Dewalt grinder I bought way back in 91 or early 92. Used the living you-know-what out of it ever since. I replaces the brushes a couple of times, take the head apart once a year to clean, check and grease it and generally just clean it and blow it out every so often. That thing just refuses to die. I had another one that just didn't have the right machine spirit and somebody must have mistaken that one for his, so I hope that one gave him alll the trouble a grinder can. I ended up with a Fein for some reason and boy-oh-boy, are those overhyped. I mean, it works but it sort of sucks. I got a Makita on a job and still have that one too, bought a variable speed one a while back and so, that's it. 1 Dewalt and a Fein that lives in the down below of my tool chest and 2 Makita's I really like. Oh, Bosch.... yeah. I just don't let them in the house. Just no.
Sounds like you have had the tour of grinders lol. I had a good laugh at not letting the Bosch in the house lol. I wish everyone could grab that grinder in the video, it’s comically big and not exactly powerful considering size. Dewalt is hands down better. I can see why guys have talked up that dewalt grinder, it seems to be solid.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg You know, every time a company "needs" to put "professional" on a line of products to sort of drive the point home their product isn't total trash, yeah, it's total trash. It always gives me that 1980's tell-sell feel. I know my opinion isn't popular with many, but the same goes for a lot of "German precision engineered stuff" with very, very few exceptions and there isn't a single tool of German origin I'd pick over the alternative made by Dewalt or Makita. That said, I really like Makita as they make a lot of their stuff right here in the EU and the UK at a really nice price point and the quality is just fine. Maybe not as tough as Dewalt, but not far behind and their grinders (the corded ones, for sure) are a lot quieter than Dewalt's or anyone else's and somehow, that kinda gets to be an argument as I get older.
Heh, 25 years ago I was doing a large project that required extensive use of a sabre saw (sawzall). I went through like 3 or 4 brands including some high-end stuff and they were all failing mostly because of the switch. Although I could have fixed them I didn't think I should have to so I would return them and get another brand. I can't remember which one finally worked but I think it was Milwaukee (this is around 2000). After I was finished I gave that saw to a family member and it's still going AFAIK.
Those pesky switches are definitely a problem lol. It used to be such a PITA to locate a switch (before the internet made it easy) the construction crews I worked on 20 years go would just toss the tools away when the switches died. The worst part was the new switch would die just like the old one, making it almost not worth repairing lol.
I wish I knew someone who had one handy, I would like to see how they are built. I might have to look in the tool cabinet at work and take one apart on lunch if I find one lol.
I can't believe how decent even the cheapest angle grinders are, these days. Until you get to the level where the bevel gears don't have bearings or bushings (yes, tools that cheaply made exist, but we're talking about $10 grinders at that point) the cheapest option is 90% of the tool you get for top dollar. Just my opinion of course, and I know there are guys out there with way more hours on grinders than I have. I still mostly own and use USA assembled DeWalt for easy availability of parts, Japanese made Makita for the adjustable speed, and of course a couple of real cheapies from Harbor Freight for nasty environments such as working on bricks or concrete. When they're only going to last a week or two of ten hour days doing that kind of work, regardless of price, why buy the best? The DeWalts unfortunately die just as quickly with that dust everywhere.
Those cheapie from harbor freight specials can be bought for less money than a replacement grinder nut, which is exactly how I wound up with a few of them lol. Far from powerful, but worth the 10 lol.
Negative park ranger . Have that grinder , clutch system , variable speed , makes a azz out of the DeWalt. Over 5 years of daily heavy use .BUT the weight of it has wrecked my wrists.
I’ve had good luck with those dewalt grinders. When I ran a shipyard the 13 amp dewalt grinders were the ones I bought. They lasted 6 months or more! That’s saying something when you have a bunch of animals reefing on them all day long. These things got the living hell beat out of them in rain, snow, salt water, ect. Are there better grinders on the market? Probably but they certainly aren’t as good of a value. I tried some Matabos and they held up well, however they cost 3 times as much and they didn’t last 3 times as long. Also they have an overheat protection system that will dive anyone using one commercially out of there mind.
I think you hit the nail on the head, for the price they seem like they punch far above their class. Considering what a modern metabo costs, I think I will buy a dewalt for my next corded grinder. The metabo I have is built slightly better, but not enough to justify the price difference.
Could it be that the Bosh has a safety switch so it will not spin up if the switch is on and you plug it into the wall, hens the bigger electronic box? Funny the blue is the professional , bosh has the green for us normal people. I have a 9" blue it is made in Russia and it could be that the QA (QC) is lacking behind. I think what happened to Boash and many other old brand is the replacement of engineers with marketing people- Milwaukee is beginning to get foothold here in EU , will be interesting to see how they hold up?
I never tried testing it locked on and plugging it in, maybe that works in that manner. I know it has no issue staying locked on unintentionally lol. Interesting to know Milwaukee is coming there. Here is my take on Milwaukee: they honestly make some very solid tools. They are typically best in category for performance, and if not best they are top 3. Most of their common tools are good. Their specialty electric tools are hit or miss, and they do have some duds such as the 12v die grinders (my opinion). Their screw drivers have some duds too. Honestly though I am happy with most of the Milwaukee tools I own.
No problem 😀. Bosch was my go to 20 years ago, it’s sad to see what they become. Every time I go to the tool store I see 100 new Milwaukee/dewalt/makita tools, and the same old Bosch ones. Sad really.
Heh. Weird. I took apart the small like 700W (i guess thats 6A in murica :D) cousin of this Dewalt, was in my Friends scrap bin. I loved the layout, great, handy, well done layout. The gears were TOAST even though the brushes were like 50% still. Not economical to fix. My conclusion was sadness, beautiful grinder, but if it shreds gears before brushes, that's cheap import level of malperformance. And that small grinder aint have the torque to move heave wire brushes etc, so no idea how you can break it by misuse. The old 80s Metabos are amazing, super clumsy bricks and umcomfortable but they just do not break. The new smaller metabos are made in China :( That said, mine works well, then again, im only giving it the hours a year a big fab shop would do in a week or two. Has a strange plastic part in the head, i really dont like it. But it seems to help with vibration. Did some grinding measured in dustpans of shavings yesterday and my hands were only mildly numb after hours. Time will tell, the motor is a monster, bury a disk in steel and it barely slows.
If it had helical gear teeth I bet the clearance was probably out of spec. Dewalt doesn’t seem to use a shim to adjust backlash and if the pattern/backlash is bad from the start it would eat itself up I am sure. It’s also possible the gear was powdered metal instead of a machined gear like in the one in the video, which likely wouldn’t last as long (especially if the clearance was out of spec). It’s to bad that it failed before a set of brushes, that’s a harbor freight 9.99 grinder failure lol.
I have 4 Makita, 2 milwalke, 1 Metabo. All work very well and I have put many hours on them. The Metabo is a variable speed model, works like a real charm. I have had 2 chinese ones and I burnt them out in a couble of months, never again. I checked none of my Makita's are made in china.
I started with Bosch because it is cheapest professional tool of those usual pro brands.They are either very good or very bad,there is no midle. I bought 1400W angle grinder 2-3 months ago and it is weaker than dewalt 1400w grinder,sounds terrible too,like there is no grease at all in it.Heavier than metabo and dewalt. It was cheaper too,to be honest but not that much cheaper. PS. I have 18V. Bosch tools too,angle grinder have safety features and only restart protection works,anti kickback one doesnt... BUT! You will always find a guy with cheapest bosch drill or grinder that are overworked to hell ane back and still works...Bunch of buts and ifs for the money...
Hitachi really went down hill and since metabo bought them out I wonder if they got better. Good to know you have had good luck with dewalt. The next new cordless tool I buy will be theirs I think.
I know this is a silly question but when you decide to choose your tools for the sound is it a frequency thing that you choose or an animalistic sound that you go for? If your grinder produced light what would it depend on?
Strange question lol. If I was going to buy a tool right now I want it to be strong like a Cape buffalo but precise. Very few meet what I want so I end up settling for whatever I think is the closest lol.
It makes me very sad to see the decline of Bosch. Forever, they were *the* name in motors. Any motor. I’m not just talking tools. I revered the name for 40 years. The leadership of that company/brand have killed a classic brand.
I am with you on that. I have a bunch of old Bosch tools (rotary hammers and routers) and they are exceptional. When I bought the Bosch rotary hammer drill it was literally like a Cadillac compared yugos when you looked at the competition. To see where they came from to where they are today is heart breaking.
I used this grease: www.farmandfleet.com/products/533716-mystik-14-oz-jt-66-hi-temp-lithium-complex-grease-with-3-moly.html It’s basically a lithium grease with moly in it. Something similar should work, or if in doubt use the manufactures suggested product.
Generally when a company goes to pieces after years of developing a good reputation you can look to two things, being bought out by a holding company that tries to squeeze every last penny of profit and/or a string of new management that has no familiarity with the product or purpose of that product. Whizz kids with fresh MBA's are an example and engineers who never use their own designs (or any real tools) relying on computer simulations rather than real world experience and interaction with people who do use the tools. There is a huge space between tools and designers that has been created by computer technology divorcing the designers from the users. Not a good thing. A well managed company can overcome this with an integrated development plan. Of course modern managers use the "I don't give a shit as long as the stock price goes up". Planned obsolescence plays a large role as well.
All things that make sense and at the same time are pretty sad. Having lived through what you described except at a government owned facility that was privatized (everything became dollar signs and assets were destroyed via not spending money to fix them) it’s a sad situation. Crazy how things can become.
Only solution to paddle switches is not using them. They ALL suck. The European style thumb switch that Stays ON is like 20% less safe on the surface and after 50% less hand fatigue and nuisance it ends up being 50% safer in the end. I have used both. Paddles are rubbish!
That Bosch grinder was more money than the Dewalt in the video when it came out. It’s built cheaper. I also have bosch’s 250$ tuck pointing grinder and it seems to be built the same. If they build a better grinder it’s not in the store bought ones lol.
I own several DeWalt tools, all of them are 30 or so years old. Just a few weeks ago I replaced the power cords on my drill and grinder. They had deteriorated like the one on your grinder. I bought 2 OEM cords from Amazon for about 12 bucks each and replaced the old ones. Took about 15 minutes each. could not use the original connectors in the tool so i just cut them long enough to splice the new cables, covered the splices with shrink tubing. reassembled and put them to use. I suspect those tools will outlast me!
Nice work 👍. I ended up doing a quick heat shrink tubing repair, but I ended up ordering brushes. I am already back using it, but I think I will do what you did and order a new longer cord. The plug end was falling apart anyway. It’s nice to have tools that last 😀.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. FA is always super interesting, to nerds like me at least
The sparkly junk in the Dewalt grease was almost certainly their 7-herbs-and-spices EP grease with ~4-6% Moly content. I can't tell from over the internets to test for tactility, but if it's the grease I'm thinking of, fresh out of the box it doesn't really adhere any of the transmission gear train. When it gets up to temp, it gets more viscous and as the tool breaks in, the MS2 platelets embed itself into where mother earth wants it to be. I remember seeing that gear set too (mg Gear?), if so I think I know what almost exactly which generation that DeWalt is from. They had just moved over to powdered metal gears.
Those power cords are rugged. Like super rugged. Keep them, even if you're not going to keep the tools. The Dewalt is especially rugged. My suggestion as how to repair it. 1: Buy heatshrink from Raychem or Ancor. You'll need two sizes-one for the outer sheathing (to approximately fit the outside diameter of the wire) and then a second heat-shrink size-to fit the hot-neutral conductors. Search for the best deals you can find. It's expensive but they're ..just the best. Better than 3M (their industrial lineman stuff--not their Home Depot Super 33 stuff haha) or Dupont even. 2: Any where there are frays or knicks, take an exact-o knife and remove that 1/8" or what not, the goal being to save as much wire as possible. 3: For both sides- strip back outer shielding so you're down to the center shield surrounding the neutral/hot (if there is one) or so you're at the shielding of the hot/neutral itself. You want the outer sheathing ultimately to be 1/4" maybe 3/8" or so behind the hot/neutral wires, on both sides. Strip neutral and hot wires so you've got a comfortable enough amount of room to splice hot on the tool side hot on the plug side. Same for neutral. 4: Before you splice, size your heat shrink (one on your new hot splice, one on your new neutral splice, and one for the outer conductor). Place all 3 shrink tubes on which ever end you prefer. Just remember to put them on. It's like running ni-cop break lines-- unless you keep hammering it into your head, you'll forget a flare fitting and be in your garage till 1AM. 5: Splice however you see fit (connectors; solder 63/37 lead/tin; the industrial way is to cold-form-- if you have access to a hydraulic crimper, anneal the copper if brittle, while it air cools slowly, go find a die that fits for your wire, and boom. No brittleness at all!) 6: Heatshrink!
I've got 4 Bosch grinders (2 large body, 2 small body) and agree with you on the lousy paddle switch design, even the paddle switch with the lock on button is just a pain to set then if you bump the paddle just slightly, it trips off the lock and the grinder stops. I have just an average hand size and the larger body grinders are uncomfortable to use. I will say the smaller Bosch grinders, around 7 amps or so, are easy to maneuver and plenty strong for their size so they'll stay on the bench but probably going Metabo. Great review, love your channel, cheers!
I didn’t even know about the lock on button until after I put the video out, since I never used it lol. Not surprising at all that it doesn’t work the best, it still has to be better than holding the paddle. That sucker is an arthritis generator holding onto that paddle and giant body lol.
i have a dewalt for about 10 years now,sounded like a bucket of bolts from day one but still going strong,iv got a couple of bosch with the paddle switch you showed here still going strong what drew me to buying them was these ones i got are variable speed really handy, some thing i notice i pulled the heads off all my grinders to clean and replace the grease seemed on all of them the grease was backed in the cavity not even touching the gears
I have actually never used a variable speed angle grinder, do you find that feature useful? As far as the grease, I am not surprised at what you found. Much like using grease instead of oil in a rear axle would likely not work well, the grease slings off the rotating bevel gear. Dewalt seemed to have a high moly grease that was thin, and it coated everything decent. I have seen straight up red grease which tends to fly off and offer minimal protection. I am kind of surprised they all don’t have thin liquids with moly or something.
Strange, as a professional fabricator I found out that Bosch and Metabo are the best even in harsch conditions (and I mean very hard conditions).
I've started 24 years ago with Dewalt, but after 2 weeks my hammerdrill stopped working (plastic coupling destructed, why the hell use plastic gears?), after 3-4 weeks both grinders( big and small one) went wobbly, I had done some carpenter work besides and the Dewalt jigsaw couldn't saw for more then 2 cm in a straight line in material more then a cm thick. I threw everything away and started to find out witch machine's where the best for the job. Heavy drilling AEG/AtlasCopco, light drilling and screwing AEG and Bosch, sawing Festool, grinding Bosch and Metabo.
I tried Milwaukee drill's (for two times, but the grip of the chuck was terrible and the chuck itself went wobbly within 3 months. Ive had 3 grinders from Milwaukee and they also went wobbly and the 125 cm only starts when it wants too...Makita is reasonable I have a few of them, but they are a bit chuncky compared to the Bosch with the same amount of power.
Now I only use them in the shop, but not on service jobs.
From what people are saying it sounds like Bosch makes better tools than what the box stores sell, and the one in the video is a box store version. It definitely ate a massive amount of mortar dust and still works, so it’s durable. I do own Bosch rotary hammer drills, a multi tool, and a few other tools that still work and have had no issues. All of them are about 10 years old though.
The brainbox on the Bosch likely contains a soft-start circuit and some overload/temperature protection but idk, since I haven't used it. The spiral bevel gear is also present in all Makitas I've disassembled; it engages much smoother, but it needs better grease, since there's some sliding across the tooth faces. The Bosch gear is sintered, compared to hobbed for the DeWalt.
Great thoughts and great catch on the sintered vs Hobbed. I wonder if the current version of the Dewalt (which looks identical but is newer manufacture date) still uses the same gear setup. Seems like a far more expensive option.
@@makingmistakeswithgregEven if sintered, the gears will outlast the electricals by a long shot. They have to be robust and hardened. Last dewalt I saw disassembled was on a BOLTR from AvE and it had sintered gears. Good grease, too, had lots of molybdenum disulfide. YMMV.
You are correct about Bosch, last 3 tool's took a dump in the last year, the last one day! angle grinder head got so hot you couldn't touch it, took it back and got my money back, Yellow is OK but I am still pissed because they screwed us 18v tool owners over so no Dewalt for me ever again. interestingly I bought a Porter Cable 7.5 Amp 4.5 grinder on Amazon for $ 45 buck, was so impressed I bought two more. only thing I don't like is the bearing carrier for the spindle is poly plastic, will it hold up to being dropped? we shall see. it seems kind of cheap at $45 but so far they are holding up. I miss the old school Soux grinders they were 9" of pure hell on a electrical cord but ran for EVER and rebuildable.
What happened with the Dewalt 18v tool system that people got screwed? About 9 or so years ago I had to buy into a system because Bosch (which was my go to tool company) didn’t seem to have competitive cordless tools to Milwaukee/dewalt/makita. I like makita tools but they didn’t have a bunch of specialty tools I knew I wanted. Between dewalt and Milwaukee I went Milwaukee and like them overall. They have had some dud tools though. Porter cable used to make some solid tools too, I have a bunch of older routers and wood working tools from them that are awesome.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Dewalt dropped the 18v line (I talked to a Dewalt factory rep at a vendor meet at farm and fleet after they announced the change, asked him why, he said "Dewalt didn't want to carry both lines, SORRY, so I said" but aren't we getting screwed? " he looked around," yea") , forcing you to rebuy your tool's or buy bulky 18v to 20v adapters, I have 14 different 18v tool's, now I have to get batteries rebuilt and even those are drying up or pay $125 for one OEM 18v battery (if you can find them) once one of my 18v tools die it's a new tool with a different battery, sure 20v Dewalt is better but not that much and starting over replacing 14 tool's at my age is absolutely insane. it's the primary reason I went back to corded tools now , 120v will be around a long time.
On the other side of one is starting out it's not a big deal (until Dewalt switches it up again) I should have started out with Milwaukee but who knew. Personally I believe these companies are doing what printer companies do, the profit is in ink cartridges not the printers themselves, $125 for a battery? that only last a few years.
I don't own any Bosch but own plenty of corded and cordless DeWalt. Ive been phasing them out as needed for Hercules which have been holding their own along with some Bauer that didn't have a Hercules version of the tool yet. Not excited to have 4 battery platforms (Kobalt 40v&80V for the yard) but glad I switched from DeWalt. I have the Hercules 15 amp (absolute torq monster) and their 13 amp trigger grips along with the paddle switch 20V in Hercules and Bauer. I buy the tools I need or might need eventually when I'm working overtime and they are marked down and have never regretted it. Thanks for another great video. I love the take it apart, fix/improve, see how it works content.
A bunch of people seem to be switching to Hercules tools, I might have to try one out. I like Milwaukee and have all their stuff, but it’s hard to justify the prices. Maybe I should do a comparison on their Hercules grinder to their 9.99$ on sale special 😅. I bet their Hercules is pretty decent, I bet it’s better than the Bosch in the video lol.
Brain box will be stuff like soft start, anti restart (so if you have a power outage, it doesnt come back up on repower) and maybe also some sort of constant speed feature that reduces bogging. I think the big metabos have this. Strange thing is, Grinders with those features also have variable speed, because if you put the power electronics, you may as well use them....heh
I think you’re right on the brain box. You brought up a good point, why have all that stuff and no variable speed. I have never owned a variable speed grinder so I am not sure how much of a benefit that is. The soft start isn’t a bad idea to have, when you get into bigger grinders they tend to trip breakers or torque out of your hand.
This tracks for my experience with a newer Bosch grinder as well. It's the first tool I handed to my wife and asked her to sell for me and what made me look into Metabo to replace my other cheaper grinders. Meanwhile I have two inexpensive DeWalt grinders I'll be keeping for the long haul. The Bosch was fine for awhile then it developed an awful rattle that would make your hands numb to use. It was a pretty awful experience and I won't be buying Bosch anytime soon.
It’s crazy how a company that was so well known for making solid tools and competing with other high end companies has become a shell of its former self. Unfortunate really.
Yeah even Metabo makes a good share of their tools in China now, too.
But most of the angle grinders still come from a factory in Germany.
There's a nice factory tour on RUclips, i think it's even worth a watch for non German speakers!
Bosch fan boy and also really would prefer most brands over dewalt but their newer grinders are a great! Loads of power …good in the hand and last.
Glad to hear they may have improved things. No joke that Bosch grinder I have is so big it’s hard to hold. I might have to get a hold of something newer from them.
I’ve got five of those DeWalts. I really do like them. Nothing bad to say about them. I also have a really old one and a battery powered one. The only thing I wish they did differently is that the old one has a third handle screw hole on the top of the gear housing as well and it does come in handy at times. I bought the battery model simply because sometimes a cord gets in the way, or is just a foot short. I also have a cheap Harbor Freight $15 one on sale for $10. I just use that for 2” Roloc disks with an adapter Jody from welding tricks and tips mentioned years ago, which is made here. That grinder isn’t that powerful but is smaller and light weight. Roloc disks do t overburden it, but the push thumb switch is tiring. DeWalt has higher priced grinders that have soft start and overload detection and turnoff. I imagine that needs some sort of electronics and sensors. A helical greasing is more expensive to make. But the gear engages over time instead of smacking into each other all at one. It also transmits more power.
The third handle hole is a hard one to find on modern grinders. I never had the luxury of that but I could see how it would be good to have. I can see why you would have 5 of those grinders, the fact a used tool in a shop was still working enough that I could inherit it and put it to use is saying a lot lol. I think you’re right on the Bosch monitoring temp and having soft turn on. I completely forgot about the fact it doesn’t hit max rpm and torque out of your hand right away. Then again it doesn’t shut off when you get debris in the paddle so it’s still a liability lol.
Modern day Dewalt is made by Stanley Black and Decker with manufacturing in USA, Mexico and China. Modern day Bosch power tools are made by Chervon (Chervon is headquartered in Shenzhen, China). Chervon high end tools are made in Germany with other tools in Vietnam. Chervon also makes Skil / Skilsaw and Kobalt power tools for Lowes.
Bosch have least tools made in China.Bosch tools are made in Germany,Malaysia,Hungry and China now.They also have factories in Russia but now they closed because of war.Angle grinders and hammers are made in Germany only entry level are made in China,Cordless drills Malaysia etc.Other companies for example Makita have only few tools made in Japan,China mostly,Hilti China,Dewalt China,Milwaukee China of course (TTI owned),Metabo have some tools still made in Germany but they also China owned now along with Hitachi (Hikoki now).Hitachi + Koki = Hikoki,they don’t have weights oh Hitachi name.
I have five Dewalt angle grinders. I spent months making that decision... and if you knew me at all. You would know how much I hate Stanley Black and Decker. My grinders must have a thumb switch that can stay on or operate as a momentary switch. A cord that is longer than 5'. A cord that is high quality rubber as PVC is never allowed. Ultimately I found a reasonable grinder but in typical cost cutting fashion it had a short power cable. Well my original grinder had 12' cord. So I went parts hunting and ordered four power cords to go with my four new grinders.
Each grinder has a dedicated task.
Grinding.
Cut Off.
36 Grit Flap.
Wire wheel.
One left for various finer grit flap disks.
Which Dewalt model did you finally decide to buy?
No doubt they seem to be able to make a solid grinder. I am with you on not being a fanboy of the Stanley/b&d. I find it strange at how much thought they put into that grinder and the fact it’s more or less a standout amount grinders, yet they don’t take that approach to everything they make. I have never owned many yellow tools but a few of the ones out there are definitely are solid.
I remember reading that a bushing can take much higher load than a bearing, and being inside the gearbox lubrication shouldn't be a problem. Although in this case it's probably just a cost cutting measure.
Also Bosch does make lock-on version of the paddle switches I believe.
I had to look at the back of that grinder, it does indeed have a lock on function on the end (never noticed it). The bushing could probably handle more load, and it doesn’t seem overly worn out despite a lot of abuse. I am not sold on the idea, but at the same time it seems to work. I didn’t mention it in the video but the Bosch seems to have far more drag when you spin the output shaft. I don’t believe it’s the due to the bushing, and all the bearings moved freely, so who knows exactly. It does run smooth though.
I’ve had good luck so far with the Hercules grinders
Haven't tried the Hercules but my Bauer is an excellent grinder.
@@Kevin.L_ I have the 8 amp and 15 amp Hercules, even the little one is a beast. The 15 I got on sail and havent used as much.
I definitely need to try one of those out. I buy the Bauer and Hercules city of discs all the time and like the way they work.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg after I got mine I opened the head and cleaned out the grease and used red bearing grease instead. Definitely a decent improvement.
I have a Dewalt grinder I bought way back in 91 or early 92. Used the living you-know-what out of it ever since. I replaces the brushes a couple of times, take the head apart once a year to clean, check and grease it and generally just clean it and blow it out every so often. That thing just refuses to die. I had another one that just didn't have the right machine spirit and somebody must have mistaken that one for his, so I hope that one gave him alll the trouble a grinder can. I ended up with a Fein for some reason and boy-oh-boy, are those overhyped. I mean, it works but it sort of sucks. I got a Makita on a job and still have that one too, bought a variable speed one a while back and so, that's it. 1 Dewalt and a Fein that lives in the down below of my tool chest and 2 Makita's I really like. Oh, Bosch.... yeah. I just don't let them in the house. Just no.
Sounds like you have had the tour of grinders lol. I had a good laugh at not letting the Bosch in the house lol. I wish everyone could grab that grinder in the video, it’s comically big and not exactly powerful considering size. Dewalt is hands down better. I can see why guys have talked up that dewalt grinder, it seems to be solid.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg You know, every time a company "needs" to put "professional" on a line of products to sort of drive the point home their product isn't total trash, yeah, it's total trash. It always gives me that 1980's tell-sell feel. I know my opinion isn't popular with many, but the same goes for a lot of "German precision engineered stuff" with very, very few exceptions and there isn't a single tool of German origin I'd pick over the alternative made by Dewalt or Makita. That said, I really like Makita as they make a lot of their stuff right here in the EU and the UK at a really nice price point and the quality is just fine. Maybe not as tough as Dewalt, but not far behind and their grinders (the corded ones, for sure) are a lot quieter than Dewalt's or anyone else's and somehow, that kinda gets to be an argument as I get older.
Heh, 25 years ago I was doing a large project that required extensive use of a sabre saw (sawzall). I went through like 3 or 4 brands including some high-end stuff and they were all failing mostly because of the switch. Although I could have fixed them I didn't think I should have to so I would return them and get another brand. I can't remember which one finally worked but I think it was Milwaukee (this is around 2000). After I was finished I gave that saw to a family member and it's still going AFAIK.
Those pesky switches are definitely a problem lol. It used to be such a PITA to locate a switch (before the internet made it easy) the construction crews I worked on 20 years go would just toss the tools away when the switches died. The worst part was the new switch would die just like the old one, making it almost not worth repairing lol.
I have a Makita grinder. Works well. Good video.
I wish I knew someone who had one handy, I would like to see how they are built. I might have to look in the tool cabinet at work and take one apart on lunch if I find one lol.
Is the "brain box" a soft start mechanism like they make routers?
I think you are right. That would make total sense.
I can't believe how decent even the cheapest angle grinders are, these days. Until you get to the level where the bevel gears don't have bearings or bushings (yes, tools that cheaply made exist, but we're talking about $10 grinders at that point) the cheapest option is 90% of the tool you get for top dollar. Just my opinion of course, and I know there are guys out there with way more hours on grinders than I have.
I still mostly own and use USA assembled DeWalt for easy availability of parts, Japanese made Makita for the adjustable speed, and of course a couple of real cheapies from Harbor Freight for nasty environments such as working on bricks or concrete. When they're only going to last a week or two of ten hour days doing that kind of work, regardless of price, why buy the best? The DeWalts unfortunately die just as quickly with that dust everywhere.
Those cheapie from harbor freight specials can be bought for less money than a replacement grinder nut, which is exactly how I wound up with a few of them lol. Far from powerful, but worth the 10 lol.
Negative park ranger . Have that grinder , clutch system , variable speed , makes a azz out of the DeWalt. Over 5 years of daily heavy use .BUT the weight of it has wrecked my wrists.
I hope it doesn’t have the paddle switch because I can’t count how many times it stuck on when I was using it lol.
I’ve had good luck with those dewalt grinders. When I ran a shipyard the 13 amp dewalt grinders were the ones I bought. They lasted 6 months or more! That’s saying something when you have a bunch of animals reefing on them all day long. These things got the living hell beat out of them in rain, snow, salt water, ect. Are there better grinders on the market? Probably but they certainly aren’t as good of a value. I tried some Matabos and they held up well, however they cost 3 times as much and they didn’t last 3 times as long. Also they have an overheat protection system that will dive anyone using one commercially out of there mind.
I think you hit the nail on the head, for the price they seem like they punch far above their class. Considering what a modern metabo costs, I think I will buy a dewalt for my next corded grinder. The metabo I have is built slightly better, but not enough to justify the price difference.
Could it be that the Bosh has a safety switch so it will not spin up if the switch is on and you plug it into the wall, hens the bigger electronic box? Funny the blue is the professional , bosh has the green for us normal people. I have a 9" blue it is made in Russia and it could be that the QA (QC) is lacking behind. I think what happened to Boash and many other old brand is the replacement of engineers with marketing people- Milwaukee is beginning to get foothold here in EU , will be interesting to see how they hold up?
I never tried testing it locked on and plugging it in, maybe that works in that manner. I know it has no issue staying locked on unintentionally lol. Interesting to know Milwaukee is coming there. Here is my take on Milwaukee: they honestly make some very solid tools. They are typically best in category for performance, and if not best they are top 3. Most of their common tools are good. Their specialty electric tools are hit or miss, and they do have some duds such as the 12v die grinders (my opinion). Their screw drivers have some duds too. Honestly though I am happy with most of the Milwaukee tools I own.
Bosch has gone downhill in my opinion also, i believe its just corporate greed? Thank you for another great video!!!
No problem 😀. Bosch was my go to 20 years ago, it’s sad to see what they become. Every time I go to the tool store I see 100 new Milwaukee/dewalt/makita tools, and the same old Bosch ones. Sad really.
Heh. Weird. I took apart the small like 700W (i guess thats 6A in murica :D) cousin of this Dewalt, was in my Friends scrap bin. I loved the layout, great, handy, well done layout. The gears were TOAST even though the brushes were like 50% still. Not economical to fix. My conclusion was sadness, beautiful grinder, but if it shreds gears before brushes, that's cheap import level of malperformance. And that small grinder aint have the torque to move heave wire brushes etc, so no idea how you can break it by misuse.
The old 80s Metabos are amazing, super clumsy bricks and umcomfortable but they just do not break. The new smaller metabos are made in China :( That said, mine works well, then again, im only giving it the hours a year a big fab shop would do in a week or two. Has a strange plastic part in the head, i really dont like it. But it seems to help with vibration. Did some grinding measured in dustpans of shavings yesterday and my hands were only mildly numb after hours. Time will tell, the motor is a monster, bury a disk in steel and it barely slows.
If it had helical gear teeth I bet the clearance was probably out of spec. Dewalt doesn’t seem to use a shim to adjust backlash and if the pattern/backlash is bad from the start it would eat itself up I am sure. It’s also possible the gear was powdered metal instead of a machined gear like in the one in the video, which likely wouldn’t last as long (especially if the clearance was out of spec). It’s to bad that it failed before a set of brushes, that’s a harbor freight 9.99 grinder failure lol.
I have 4 Makita, 2 milwalke, 1 Metabo. All work very well and I have put many hours on them. The Metabo is a variable speed model, works like a real charm. I have had 2 chinese ones and I burnt them out in a couble of months, never again. I checked none of my Makita's are made in china.
I never had a variable speed grinder, do you find that useful? I would imagine for polishing it could work good.
I started with Bosch because it is cheapest professional tool of those usual pro brands.They are either very good or very bad,there is no midle. I bought 1400W angle grinder 2-3 months ago and it is weaker than dewalt 1400w grinder,sounds terrible too,like there is no grease at all in it.Heavier than metabo and dewalt. It was cheaper too,to be honest but not that much cheaper.
PS. I have 18V. Bosch tools too,angle grinder have safety features and only restart protection works,anti kickback one doesnt... BUT! You will always find a guy with cheapest bosch drill or grinder that are overworked to hell ane back and still works...Bunch of buts and ifs for the money...
Honestly that’s a great sum up of their tools. Hit or miss for sure.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg That saying is what I was looking for. "Hit or miss"
I agree, Bosch tools have gone down hill. I think all of them have taken a step down. I look at Dewalt first for all my tools.
Hitachi really went down hill and since metabo bought them out I wonder if they got better. Good to know you have had good luck with dewalt. The next new cordless tool I buy will be theirs I think.
I know this is a silly question but when you decide to choose your tools for the sound is it a frequency thing that you choose or an animalistic sound that you go for? If your grinder produced light what would it depend on?
Strange question lol. If I was going to buy a tool right now I want it to be strong like a Cape buffalo but precise. Very few meet what I want so I end up settling for whatever I think is the closest lol.
It makes me very sad to see the decline of Bosch. Forever, they were *the* name in motors. Any motor. I’m not just talking tools. I revered the name for 40 years. The leadership of that company/brand have killed a classic brand.
I am with you on that. I have a bunch of old Bosch tools (rotary hammers and routers) and they are exceptional. When I bought the Bosch rotary hammer drill it was literally like a Cadillac compared yugos when you looked at the competition. To see where they came from to where they are today is heart breaking.
WhT grease would use in. The gear head. Thanks for the video!
I used this grease: www.farmandfleet.com/products/533716-mystik-14-oz-jt-66-hi-temp-lithium-complex-grease-with-3-moly.html It’s basically a lithium grease with moly in it. Something similar should work, or if in doubt use the manufactures suggested product.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Thanks
Generally when a company goes to pieces after years of developing a good reputation you can look to two things, being bought out by a holding company that tries to squeeze every last penny of profit and/or a string of new management that has no familiarity with the product or purpose of that product. Whizz kids with fresh MBA's are an example and engineers who never use their own designs (or any real tools) relying on computer simulations rather than real world experience and interaction with people who do use the tools. There is a huge space between tools and designers that has been created by computer technology divorcing the designers from the users. Not a good thing. A well managed company can overcome this with an integrated development plan. Of course modern managers use the "I don't give a shit as long as the stock price goes up". Planned obsolescence plays a large role as well.
All things that make sense and at the same time are pretty sad. Having lived through what you described except at a government owned facility that was privatized (everything became dollar signs and assets were destroyed via not spending money to fix them) it’s a sad situation. Crazy how things can become.
30:32 "What happened to Bosch as a company?" One single acronym for you, bud... MBAs. MBAs happened. Quarterly profits above all, and damn the future.
Definitely not what I want to hear, but likely the truth. Sad really :(
Only solution to paddle switches is not using them. They ALL suck. The European style thumb switch that Stays ON is like 20% less safe on the surface and after 50% less hand fatigue and nuisance it ends up being 50% safer in the end. I have used both. Paddles are rubbish!
What happened to Bosch?Well you have crap model of Bosch angle grinder.Bosch have better protected armature than Makita,Dewalt etc.
That Bosch grinder was more money than the Dewalt in the video when it came out. It’s built cheaper. I also have bosch’s 250$ tuck pointing grinder and it seems to be built the same. If they build a better grinder it’s not in the store bought ones lol.
@@makingmistakeswithgreg Something is definitely going on with Bosch in US,I’m from Europe.