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  • Опубликовано: 25 июн 2023
  • As we have learned, multiplication is repeated addition, and exponentiation is repeated multiplication, but what if we have repeated exponentiation? The answer for that is called tetration (also known as "hyperpower"). This fascinating operation is unfortunately not taught at school so let's learn it now!
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Комментарии • 221

  • @erniesmith2579
    @erniesmith2579 10 месяцев назад +63

    The dual black & red pen handling is awesome!

    • @carollane8694
      @carollane8694 8 месяцев назад +3

      I too am just as impressed by this as his mathematical knowledge

    • @milansunar143
      @milansunar143 4 месяца назад

      Truly ❤

  • @mme725
    @mme725 Год назад +226

    Well that ended abruptly lol

    • @brainandbodytraining
      @brainandbodytraining Год назад +17

      "I'm going to answer you guys this"
      *ends the video*

    • @HuTaoEvil
      @HuTaoEvil 10 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@brainandbodytrainingask* not answer

    • @brainandbodytraining
      @brainandbodytraining 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@HuTaoEvil thank you for correcting me. You're absolutely right

    • @tioa.p.1058
      @tioa.p.1058 10 месяцев назад

      ​okkkkkkkk

    • @tioa.p.1058
      @tioa.p.1058 10 месяцев назад

  • @creepermods4641
    @creepermods4641 9 месяцев назад +24

    Wow, it's so fast to understand tetration, thank you!

  • @Ninja20704
    @Ninja20704 Год назад +70

    The final question is clearly no. The LHS is 16*65536 which is just over 1 million. The RHS is clearly way bigger because just 5 2’s in the stack already gives a number with 19 729 digits.
    On another point, another way to write tetration is to use the up-arrow notation. a tetrated to b is written as a↑↑b (2 arrows) meaning we stack a in a power tower b times. I like this notation more personally as we can actually generalise this to more up arrows. Because exponentiation can also be written as a^b = a↑b (1 arrow). So to have more up arrows, we just repeat the previous level.

    • @bobbylarue6704
      @bobbylarue6704 Год назад +6

      I looked into it and 65536 is 2^16 which would be 2^2^2^2^2 because when you get exponents being multiplied to the power, you multiply them together. For instance, 2^2^3 would be 2^6. I believe he made a mistake because otherwise 2^2^2 would be 2^8. It seems like a simplified way of doing exponential multiplication. I could be wrong though.
      Edit:I found out my mistake, because I was going up instead of down the chain. I just watched another video and found my mistake.

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Год назад

      @@bobbylarue6704 a power tower with no brackets means you start from the top and work downwards. So
      2^2^2^2 (4 2’s) = 2^(2^(2^2))
      = 2^(2^4)
      = 2^16
      = 65536
      The law of exponent does not apply because thats when we have (a^b)^c, when what we have is a^(b^c). So theres no simplification we can do besides just manually working it out

    • @SuryaBudimansyah
      @SuryaBudimansyah 10 месяцев назад

      RIP Ronald Graham

    • @devinanderson7615
      @devinanderson7615 10 месяцев назад

      I did a little research and saw it was ≈18 quintillion

    • @Bruh-bk6yo
      @Bruh-bk6yo 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@SuryaBudimansyah Graham's number still bigger bruh.

  • @davidknight9709
    @davidknight9709 6 месяцев назад +15

    I am now more confused. 2 to the third tetration is 16, but to fourth is 65536? Shouldn’t that be third tetration is 256?
    First 2x2=4
    Second 4x4=16
    Third 16x16=256
    Fourth 256x256=65536
    I am 50 and never needed more than basic algebra since I left high school so I have forgotten everything😢

    • @davidknight9709
      @davidknight9709 6 месяцев назад +10

      OK wait.. what I need to do is look at the stack of exponents right?
      Third is 2x2x2=16
      Fourth is 2 multiplied against itself 16 times.
      Ok. I feel like I can outthink my 6 year old for now. 😊

    • @user-mg5jd9nf4l
      @user-mg5jd9nf4l 4 месяца назад

      To three its 2^2^2 so 2^(2×2)=2^4= 2×2×2×2=16. Vut to four its 2^2^2^2 so 2^2^4=2^16 so 2×2×2×2×2×2×2... with a 2 being doubled 16 times. The difference is like folding a paper 4 times and folding it 16 times

    • @collinparham350
      @collinparham350 3 месяца назад

      no. 2 to the third tetration is 2 to the 16th power.

    • @tvtxxtsalt9920
      @tvtxxtsalt9920 Месяц назад

      @@collinparham350 2^^3 is the same as 2^(2^2) = 2^4 = 16, not 2^16 which equals to 65536

    • @collinparham350
      @collinparham350 Месяц назад

      @@tvtxxtsalt9920 oh yeah i was thinking about 2^4 whoops

  • @chaosinsurgency884
    @chaosinsurgency884 Год назад +44

    For tetrations to be added, like when multiplying two powers of the same base, ex: (3^5)×(3^4)=(3^9)
    To achieve this in tetratiin we would have to raise the tetratiin to the power of the tetratiin, ex: (2^^3)^(2^^4)=(2^^7)
    This can be further generalized for the nth-tration(don't know the general term for tetratiins or pentrations etc) because when you use the nth-tration operation with itself the power/titration multiplies.
    Ex: ((3^4)^5)=(3^20)
    And also can be generalized for when you add the power/titration by using the (n-1)th-tration
    Ex: (4^2)×(4^5)=(4^7)
    I think this can be further generalized for (n+/-x)th-tration being used simultaenously, such as powers used with pentration, or powers(tritration, I think) used with multiplication.
    Please excuse the likely incomprehensible jargon I've said as I am neither an expert in this nor am I awake enough to be typing this.

    • @chaosinsurgency884
      @chaosinsurgency884 Год назад +3

      Someone please bring some pentrations into the mix and other higher order operations.

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Год назад +5

      I don’t think that what you said about taking powers of tetration towers is correct.
      (2^^3)^(2^^4)=(2^2^2)^(65536)
      =(2^4)^65536
      =2^262,144
      =2^2^18
      Which is quite clearly not 2^^7. The problem with coming up with rules is that unlike addition or multiplication, exponentiation is neither commutative nor asscociative, so it would be much harder to come up with rules.

    • @SuperEMT6957
      @SuperEMT6957 10 месяцев назад

      @@Ninja20704 2 to the hyper power of 3 time 2 to the hyper power of 4 is written as:
      2^4 * 2^16=2^20=1,048,576 OR
      16 * 65,536= 1,048,576
      This is so much fun! 😀

    • @alexeynezhdanov2362
      @alexeynezhdanov2362 9 месяцев назад

      Nope. If you write (2^^3)^(2^^4)==2^^7 then the cat on his t-shirt cries even more. Tetration must be done from the up down and you break that order.

    • @SYAgencies0379
      @SYAgencies0379 9 месяцев назад

      That why, scientific says, Womankind has 2 xx ,our marker to indentifier that we multiply everything we do. ❤

  • @claudi917
    @claudi917 4 месяца назад +10

    Just wait for pentation to arrive

  • @ronjones1414
    @ronjones1414 10 месяцев назад +2

    2x2 is 4, 4x4 is 16, 16x16 is 256.
    Can someone explain why 2 hyperpower 4 (pardon the jargon) isn't 256?

    • @SuperEMT6957
      @SuperEMT6957 10 месяцев назад +2

      2 to the hyper power of 4 = 2 raised to the power of 16 = 2^16= 65,536
      Let me explain. It’s a little confusing🧐.
      A). 2 to the hyper power of 4, when written out in equation form, will have a TOTAL of four number twos stacked on top of each other (a “tetration tower”). With the base 2 counting as the first one in the series then the exponent 2 written as a superscript to itself three times. 2^[^2((^2)(^2))]
      B). When calculating tetrations you have too work from the top of the tower back down to the base number. In other words, calculate the exponents first. Starting with the ultimate exponent; power of 2 raised to the power of 2 = 2^2= 4 (your new exponent is 4). Continue down towards the base; the power of 2 raised to the power of 4 = 2^4= 16 (your new and final exponent is 16, in this specific example).
      C). Finally, multiple the base of 2 to the power of 16= 2^16= 65,536
      I hope this helps to clarify 😊. Math is fun!😀

    • @ronjones1414
      @ronjones1414 10 месяцев назад +2

      @SuperEMT6957 perfect, I went from the bottom up instead of the top down. I wonder if you could put a "ghost" number under the bottom exponent and have it work. I'll have to play with it.

  • @beautie5138
    @beautie5138 10 месяцев назад +1

    Master of using two markers at a time! Beautiful.

  • @Zyrkoon
    @Zyrkoon 10 месяцев назад +1

    Should WE use the "left exponent" notation, or Knuth arrows notation ? Like 2 ↑↑4 = 2^2^2^2=65536

  • @Why_Fred
    @Why_Fred Год назад +7

    Is tetration defined for all real numbers? Like does 2^^(√2) have a value? ( "^^" means hyperpower )

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Год назад +1

      For now, i dont think so. We would need to come up with alternate definitions just like normal exponentiation.

    • @ryanman0083
      @ryanman0083 10 месяцев назад +2

      Take slog a(z) = b+x --> a^^(b+x) = z
      NOTE: "slog" is a common notation for super logarithm, defined as repeated Logarithm
      where z is not an integer hyper power of a, that means b=Z and 0 < x < 1
      Super Log by definition is repeated log until the 0 ≤ answer ≤ 1.
      (ex: slog2(16) --> Log2(16)=4 --> Log2(4)=2 --> Log2(2)=1: for 2^^x = n, x=(T-1)+r where T is one less than the total logs performed and r is the remainder of the last log. For 2^^x = 16 --> x=(3-1)+1 = 3 thus 2^^3 = 16)
      By definition of Tetration, a^^(b+x) = a^a^^(b-1+x)^...(b copies)...^a^^x
      By definition of Super Log, a^^(b+x) = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x (per the definition above)
      Both towers by definition are equal to z so they must equal eachother
      a^^(b+x) --> a^a^^(b-1+x)^...(b copies)...^a^^x = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x
      Repeat Log a() on both sides b times to cancel the towers and we get a^^x = a^x
      By definition, a^^1 = Log a(a^a) = a = a^1
      and, a^^0 = Log a(a) = 1 = a^0
      Thus we have our Extension of Real Tetration powers in the positive direction
      R+ --> a^^x = a^x For 0 ≤ x ≤ 1
      So 2^^√2 = 2^2^√(2)-1 ≈ 2.5185128141

    • @Zyrkoon
      @Zyrkoon 10 месяцев назад

      I dont think it is possible to define "a tower of √2 numbers stacked"

    • @ryanman0083
      @ryanman0083 10 месяцев назад

      @@Zyrkoon Well you won't be able to exactly define it since it's impossible to precisely define an irrational number, but it does have an exact form it can be written as
      x^^√2 = x^x^(√(2)-1)
      Using more and more decimals of √2 will allow you to be more accurate, but like with any irrational it will never truly be 100%

    • @AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn
      @AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@ryanman0083 Just like how all BEAF (and other googolism functions using the Fast-Growing Hierarchy) only accepts nonnegative integers, and extending the domains to the reals would be very hectic, as in order to extend a function's domain from the rationals to the reals, you must define a function that is infinitely differentiable throughout its domain, like the Gamma function for the factorial function, and the diGamma function for the harmonic sequence.

  • @TGears314
    @TGears314 7 месяцев назад +1

    Do it simply with 2 and 2^2. Just the first and second tetrations. 2*4=8 and that does not equal what the third retraction is. 2^2^2 is 2^4 which is 16. 16 does not equal 8. Therefore a^2 * b^2 does not equal a+b^2. I wish I could notate that better but I’m unsure how to do that in comments on my phone.

  • @Lordmewtwo151
    @Lordmewtwo151 Год назад +16

    "Which if I remember correctly is 65,536." let me double check that real quick: 2^^4 is 2^2^2^2 so 2^16. I don't know off hand what that is, but I can use exponent properties to break it down into something more manageable because unless I'm mistaken, (2^4)^4 is equal to 16^4, which by using exponent properties is equal to 16^2*16^2. Now for the hard part: calculating 256^2. That would be 256*6+256*50+256*200, so 1536+12,800+51,200=65,536. Checks out.

  • @MrVanillaCaramel
    @MrVanillaCaramel 10 месяцев назад +5

    On what occasion would anyone use tetrations?

    • @josephmalone253
      @josephmalone253 6 месяцев назад +1

      When writing a tower of powers in a shorter neater method. Instead of simply stating a number or exponent using tetration keeps track of how many times a base was raised to a power. This could be useful for simplifying some equations or knowing how many times something was doubled not just the end value. In finance and chemistry the doubling time is important (assuming a constant rate of change). You can think of it as a notational trick.

  • @tobybartels8426
    @tobybartels8426 Год назад +10

    I'd never guess that ³2 × ⁴2 = ⁷2; there's no pattern to suggest that. Sure, we have 2³ × 2⁴ = 2⁷, but that's just one level. We don't have 3•2 × 4•2 = 7•2, so clearly this rule only works for exponentiation, not multiplication or tetration.
    What I _would_ guess is ³2 ^ ⁴2 = ⁷2. This fits a pattern: 3•2 + 4•2 = 7•2, then 2³ × 2⁴ = 2⁷, so why not ³2 ^ ⁴2 = ⁷2? If you write both sides out as power towers, they even have the same number of 2s in the tower.
    But this isn't true either! Ultimately, this is because exponentiation (unlike addition and multiplication) isn't associative. So (2^2^2)^(2^2^2^2) isn't the same as 2^2^2^2^2^2^2; the parentheses matter.

    • @argonwheatbelly637
      @argonwheatbelly637 10 месяцев назад +2

      Exponentiation is right-associative. And that makes all the difference. 😊

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@argonwheatbelly637 : Yes, that's right.
      Although notice that associativity is a property that an operation might or might not have; multiplication has it, and exponentiation doesn't, and there's nothing that we can do about that. But right associativity is a convention about the order of operations, which we can take or leave as we like; it's more convenient for exponentiation, that's all.

    • @ktejakrishna9620
      @ktejakrishna9620 10 месяцев назад +3

      How did you get to write that tetration format?

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 10 месяцев назад

      @@ktejakrishna9620 : You mean the superscript 3 in ³2? On my phone keyboard, I can press and hold the 3 and that option will pop up. But if you can't get it on your keyboard, you can google something like "unicode superscript three" one of the first few hits should be a page about the Unicode character, where you can copy it from.

  • @danielbickford3458
    @danielbickford3458 Год назад +7

    Kind of curious if there is a notation for instead of going to 2^2^2, going with 2^3^4? For the Power Tower is it always the same number?

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Год назад +1

      For tetration it’s always the same number throughout. If you want other numbers you just have to write them.

    • @danielbickford3458
      @danielbickford3458 Год назад +1

      @@Ninja20704 good to know. So it sounds like that if you have a bunch of different numbers raised to each other then you need to find a way to convert them all into the same number. Not sure how you'd go about doing that, probably something involving logarithms.

    • @Ninja20704
      @Ninja20704 Год назад +2

      @@danielbickford3458 i do know about something called the exponential factorial. Its very similar to the normal factorial, except we exponentiate instead of multiply. The notation is n$, which means n$=n^(n-1)^(n-2)^…^3^2^1

    • @danielbickford3458
      @danielbickford3458 Год назад

      @@Ninja20704 nifty

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 Год назад

      One level down, there's notation for repeated multiplication where you keep increasing the factor, which is to put a bar above the exponent. (Actually there are several notations with this, and several names too, but this is the most extendable.) So 2³ with a bar above the 3 (like how Ē has a bar above the E) means 2×3×4. (You can put the bar below the exponent if you want the factors to decrease instead.) So you could adapt that and use the same bar here, writing 2^3^4 as ³2 with a bar above the 3.

  • @andypan4936
    @andypan4936 Год назад +4

    I'm wondering if you can generalize the height of the power tower (tetration) to any real or complex number.

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 Год назад +1

      There's a pretty good discussion in the English Wikipedia article for Tetration, under Extensions. (Short answer: Even generalizing the base can be tricky, since you have to make branch cuts; generalizing the exponent is _really_ hard. Except unlike with the other operations, you can often get interesting results with infinite exponents!)

    • @ryanman0083
      @ryanman0083 10 месяцев назад

      Real numbers yes you can
      Take slog a(z) = b+x --> a^^(b+x) = z
      NOTE: "slog" is a common notation for super logarithm, defined as repeated Logarithm
      where z is not an integer hyper power of a, that means b=Z and 0 < x < 1
      Super Log by definition is repeated log until the 0 ≤ answer ≤ 1.
      (ex: slog2(16) --> Log2(16)=4 --> Log2(4)=2 --> Log2(2)=1: for 2^^x = n, x=(T-1)+r where T is one less than the total logs performed and r is the remainder of the last log. For 2^^x = 16 --> x=(3-1)+1 = 3 thus 2^^3 = 16)
      By definition of Tetration, a^^(b+x) = a^a^^(b-1+x)^...(b copies)...^a^^x
      By definition of Super Log, a^^(b+x) = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x (per the definition above)
      Both towers by definition are equal to z so they must equal eachother
      a^^(b+x) --> a^a^^(b-1+x)^...(b copies)...^a^^x = a^a^...(b copies)...^a^x
      Repeat Log a() on both sides b times to cancel the towers and we get a^^x = a^x
      By definition, a^^1 = Log a(a^a) = a = a^1
      and, a^^0 = Log a(a) = 1 = a^0
      Thus we have our Extension of Real tetration powers in the positive direction
      R+ --> a^^x = a^x For 0 ≤ x ≤ 1
      We can use this to define Negative real Tetration powers for 0 ≤ x ≤ 1
      a^^x = Log a(a^^x+1)
      a^^(-x) = Log a(a^^-x+1) = Log a(a^^1-x)
      Given 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 is true, 0 ≤ (1-x) ≤ 1 is also true, thus a^^(1-x) = a^(1-x)
      Log a(a^^1-x) = Log a(a^1-x) = (1-x)Log a(a) = 1-x
      Now we have our two extentions
      R+ --> a^^x = a^x, For 0 ≤ x ≤ 1
      R- --> a^^(-x) = 1-x, For 0 ≤ x ≤ 1, a≠0,1 (Log base 1 and 0 are undefined)
      I don't know of any extensions for complex hyper powers

  • @puroocio5267
    @puroocio5267 9 месяцев назад +2

    just asking, what's the inverse function of tetration? like log to exp, or how would a "root" would work?

    • @titan7789
      @titan7789 9 месяцев назад +2

      The two inverses of tetration are called super-root and super-logarithm

  • @pierre8235
    @pierre8235 Год назад +15

    I personally developed a method to calculate fractional tetration, and even complex tetration thanks to someone. My method can also be extended to calculate fractional (and complex) iterations of functions under certain circumstances, and I demonstrated it! So yeah, tetration is among my favorite topics in math, as well as iterated functions, and extending definitions.

    • @Georgebushdidit
      @Georgebushdidit Год назад +4

      Can you share the method?

    • @fantiscious
      @fantiscious Год назад +4

      well dont leave us hangin, whats the method

    • @jordan4835
      @jordan4835 Год назад +2

      @@fantisciousright😂

    • @pierre8235
      @pierre8235 Год назад +1

      @@fantiscious Wait a sec, rn I'm busy but I'll manage to later explain it without math symbols.

    • @pierre8235
      @pierre8235 Год назад +2

      @@Georgebushdidit Wait a sec, rn I'm busy but I'll manage to later explain it without math symbols.

  • @AbouTaim-Lille
    @AbouTaim-Lille 10 месяцев назад +2

    Can you define a continuous (extension) tetration function on IR with base e such that it is compatable with other operations of power , multiplication ,..etc.

  • @neofelisnebulosa4905
    @neofelisnebulosa4905 10 месяцев назад +6

    Your Tshirt tells us the reality of majority students 😂, Awesome

  • @thebasisti2482
    @thebasisti2482 9 месяцев назад +2

    2 with any hyperoperation to 2 is 4.

  • @EyeSooGuy
    @EyeSooGuy 9 месяцев назад +4

    There’s also pentation and hexation.

    • @raymax4960
      @raymax4960 5 месяцев назад +1

      And more, but we dont go that far tho

    • @EyeSooGuy
      @EyeSooGuy 5 месяцев назад

      @@raymax4960 yup. Heptation, octation, etc etc.

  • @SomeoneschanneI
    @SomeoneschanneI 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can anyone explain me how (x+y)²=x²+y²
    Because if I am correct i remember that in my book it was written that x²+y²=x²•2xy•y²

    • @DarkvsLight69
      @DarkvsLight69 5 месяцев назад

      (x+y)² is not equal to x²+y²
      (x+y)² = x² + 2xy + y²
      x² + y² = (x+y)² - 2xy

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 8 дней назад +1

    2^3=8=2*2*2

  • @bluesparrow-hx5qf
    @bluesparrow-hx5qf Месяц назад +1

    there is a logical flaw in the developement of the levels. Tetration should not be 3^(3^(3^(3^3))), but ((3^3)^3)^3)^3). The fact that you write a power tower for tetration for displaying purposes does not give you the "right" to calculate it as you would a "real" power tower. But dude, you are NOT alone with this flaw on YT

  • @SuperEMT6957
    @SuperEMT6957 10 месяцев назад +2

    2 to the hyper power of 3 time 2 to the hyper power of 4
    2^4 * 2^16=2^20=1,048,576
    Is that correct?
    This is so much fun! 😀

  • @teelo12000
    @teelo12000 Год назад +3

    I'm going to guess "no" simply because you started the question with the word "unfortunately".

  • @Deltagravitics
    @Deltagravitics 2 месяца назад

    Can you express e
    Outside its polynomial series definition so i can properly relate it to π ahs arclength S=r theta

  • @williamwilting
    @williamwilting 3 месяца назад

    I didn't come further than high school math, but I find this to be very interesting. However, I've seen some videos in which it is said that notations are done differently with upward arrows, because there are higher levels of hyperoperations.
    About your question at the end of the video: To me it's obvious that ³2•⁴2 can't be equal to ⁷2, because you're multiplying two 2's somewhere inbetween, which means that you're not exponentiating 2 seven times consecutively. The answer to this question is 1,048,576, while the number ⁷2 is much, much bigger. I suspect that you'll have to calculate (³2) to the power of (⁴2) to get to ⁷2, because you're adding 4 more times of exponentiation with 2 to the first 3 times (I think that the parentheses are very important here, because the whole number must be involved, and otherwise you would probably just involve the base without the exponent directly). But I could be wrong, because the problem with exponentiation is that you can't just swap the base and the exponent to get the same result the same way as you could swap numbers with multiplication to get the same result. However, I honestly don't know if you can just add the hyperpowers to get ⁷2 if you calculate (³2) to the power of (⁴2), because (like I said) using (⁴2) as the base and (³2) as the exponent instead would probably give you another answer. In fact, I think you can't even get ⁷2 with either calculations, because you must probably calculate everything between parentheses first, even if it is before hyperoperations. So I'm not sure how all of this could work in a way similar to multiplying exponentiations (probably not at all). And now that I think of it while typing all of this, ⁷2 is calculated exponent by exponent from the top down, so even parentheses don't work in this case. Anyway, multiplying ³2 by ⁴2 doesn't get you even close to ⁷2.
    And as for ⁷2:
    ⁷2=2^(2^(2^(2^(2^(2²)))))
    ⁷2=2^(2^(2^(2^(2⁴)
    ⁷2=2^(2^(2^(2¹⁶)
    ⁷2=2^(2^(2⁶⁵⁵³⁶)
    And from here it doesn't make any sense to go on, because I can't even calculate this with any divice available to me. This number is just insanely high already, so '³2•⁴2 is nowhere near equal to ⁷2' is a very firm understatement. 😄

  • @chrissyday67
    @chrissyday67 Месяц назад

    It may be early in the morning but if 2 tetra 3 is 16 isn't 2 tetra 4 = 16 x 16 ? which isn't 65536 as he's written? it's 4096 but 2 tetra 5 would be 65536 so is it a mustake or am I not understanding it correctly?

  • @shubhobanerjee2833
    @shubhobanerjee2833 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nothing is visible from 2:50 (m:s) to rest of the video, that is, tetration part, due to placement of subtitles.

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 8 дней назад +1

    3
    2=16=2^2^2

  • @SYAgencies0379
    @SYAgencies0379 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great teacher,❤❤

  • @NotGamerAnsh-su5rh
    @NotGamerAnsh-su5rh 6 месяцев назад +1

    Time to ask this question from my classmates 😁

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell1 Год назад +1

    Next we could use Knuth up arrow notation and generalise these binary operations a whole lot more...

  • @aarohiv3527
    @aarohiv3527 5 месяцев назад

    So good I could not understand it better'

  • @randylazer2894
    @randylazer2894 4 месяца назад

    Had many calc courses at Duke University, and of getting my MA in International finance, had trig, econometrics, stats, and taught math at one of the top private schools in the US and at two universities. Yet, I cannot recall ever teaching or working with tetration, that in spell check comes up as a wrongful word!
    Yes, the 80's are a bit fuzzy, and apparently beer is not a great study aid, hence my recall might be faulty. However is tetration being taught in math curriculum now? Goodness, I would just write 2 to the 4th power as that, instead of using tetration. Perhaps there is some practical usage in science with exceptionally large or small numbers, but...I wonder if this is taught at any secondary or university math curricula?

  • @nohax3691
    @nohax3691 6 месяцев назад +1

    what happens if u tetrate by 0?

  • @nadkhaa8360
    @nadkhaa8360 Год назад +2

    is tetration the same of tower power?

  • @MikeJones-ny7yt
    @MikeJones-ny7yt 9 месяцев назад +1

    Division is the inverse of multiplication, and logarithms are the inverse of exponentiation. So then, what's the inverse of tetration?

    • @kerrybarneyiii1202
      @kerrybarneyiii1202 5 месяцев назад

      I believe it’s just stacked Logarithms? Lol I don’t have a calculator right now to do any checking, but I assume it would be taking the log of the log of something.
      log(log(log(x))) would be the inverse of x^^3
      That’s my best guess!

  • @nathancheese8645
    @nathancheese8645 10 месяцев назад

    Would 2 terraced to the 3 and then all of that raised to the power of 2 tetrated to the 4th equal 2 tetrated to the 7

  • @georgesadler7830
    @georgesadler7830 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the video.

  • @zonked1200
    @zonked1200 3 месяца назад

    Can we go over that multiplication part again? It's adding? You never went over adding!

  • @gamer122333444455555
    @gamer122333444455555 10 месяцев назад

    Can you have a hyper power and a normal exponent on the same number or variable? If you can how do you evaluate to get the proper value?

    • @megotsnodex
      @megotsnodex 8 месяцев назад +1

      Ah yes, the class PTEMDAS

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 8 дней назад +1

    X+X+X=3X

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 8 дней назад +1

    2+2+2=6

  • @TheMathManProfundities
    @TheMathManProfundities 5 месяцев назад

    ³2 ⁴2=³2 2^(³2) which puts us in Lambert W territory so no simple rule here.

  • @JohnVKaravitis
    @JohnVKaravitis 9 месяцев назад +1

    Does titration have any application to physics or chemistry?

    • @citizenwolf8720
      @citizenwolf8720 9 месяцев назад +2

      Titration is used all the time in chemical reactions. But perhaps you meant to ask about tetration?

    • @chrissyday67
      @chrissyday67 Месяц назад

      good question

  • @michaelxiong-lh2rz
    @michaelxiong-lh2rz 6 месяцев назад +1

    How to make seven even
    Me: 7 pentated to the 2nd

  • @studykids2020
    @studykids2020 3 месяца назад

    Clear 😊

  • @reinhardtristaneugen9113
    @reinhardtristaneugen9113 10 месяцев назад

    I think the rules of exponentiation do not apply with respect to tetration and the reason is that the left-sided exponent is not to indicate the sum of three left-sided exponents with the value of one, and the term repeated exponentiation gives actually already evidence to this cause the base with respect to the upper exponent in every tetration is thus changing when becoming the exponent itself till you reach the base... ...by the way 2tothehyperpowerof 3 times 2tothehyperpowerof 4 is 1048576 thus 2tothepowerof 20 and this is calculated on the spot in my head but 2tothehyperpowerof 7 is somewhat unrealistic as it implies to be able to calculate 2tothepowerof 65536 and you wouldn't still be through.... ...just to give you a notion of how grand the number is iuxtapositioned to 2tothepowerof20... ...by the way qua complete induction with a reductio ad absurdum ( proof by contradiction of the antithesis... ...in this case assuming it be possible... ) you can proof this arithmetically...
    Le p'tit Daniel, if I got anything wrong just give me a note with respect to my one... ...at least the binomials do I get right cause I know the triangle according to Pascal by heart

  • @AlessandroAllegretti
    @AlessandroAllegretti 10 месяцев назад

    Number 1 is everywhere‼️

  • @user-ij5ws7ub7m
    @user-ij5ws7ub7m 6 месяцев назад

    bro thanks

  • @steveross8364
    @steveross8364 7 месяцев назад

    When did the multiplication sign become a dot? 3.2 is not 3x2 or 3*2. It's 3 1/5

    • @kerrybarneyiii1202
      @kerrybarneyiii1202 5 месяцев назад

      Putting the “dot” higher up than a decimal is multiplication. Don’t remember why, don’t really care since I always use an asterisk, but we used the dot in high school.

  • @AminusB7
    @AminusB7 3 месяца назад

    Wow, nice ❤❤❤

  • @normalhuman3569
    @normalhuman3569 7 месяцев назад

    what about pentation

  • @matgeezer2094
    @matgeezer2094 7 месяцев назад

    Why is the text not appearing?

  • @Akronn
    @Akronn Год назад +1

    What comes after tetration?

    • @SalutLunar
      @SalutLunar Год назад +5

      It's called pentation. And that's followed by hexation.

    • @a71official
      @a71official Год назад +1

      ​@@SalutLunarand 10-ation

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 11 месяцев назад +1

      Usually a nap.

    • @scmtuk3662
      @scmtuk3662 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@a71official you forgot heptation, octation, and enneation (although some people call it nonation, but this is Greek, not Latin).

    • @a71official
      @a71official 5 месяцев назад

      okay sorry decation

  • @RandomGuy091
    @RandomGuy091 4 месяца назад

    Imagine a Millinillion tetrated to a Millinillion to Millinillion💀

  • @commentfromnitya
    @commentfromnitya 10 месяцев назад

    tetration doesn’t have large implications or practical uses. So it’s not taught. It’s just a small case of exponent. U can create more such cases of your own.

  • @JW-dh4el
    @JW-dh4el 9 месяцев назад

    I want to know how many tetrations of 2 markers this guy can write with at the same time

  • @donwald3436
    @donwald3436 10 месяцев назад

    How do you write (2^3)^2 ?

  • @echidnummonotremata2191
    @echidnummonotremata2191 5 месяцев назад

    that should be "3 reduce to the impotence of 2" 😂😂😂

  • @davidnelson4960
    @davidnelson4960 4 месяца назад

    Isn't 2 hyper power4 256?

  • @rickyahmadruslan1766
    @rickyahmadruslan1766 9 месяцев назад

    How to read tetration notation like ³2 ??

  • @syedmdabid7191
    @syedmdabid7191 10 месяцев назад

    2×2×2 VS 2^2^2 vel 8 VS 2^16

  • @harshvardhansinha5267
    @harshvardhansinha5267 Год назад +2

    Yo! When this patch came out?

  • @mihaipredescu
    @mihaipredescu 10 месяцев назад

    2^4 + 2^16 < 2^1024 ==> 16 + 65536 < 2^1024. So 2 ^ 1024 is a number so big that even calculators couldn't display!

  • @uniqueviewsnews
    @uniqueviewsnews Год назад

    12^2

  • @RH-ro3sg
    @RH-ro3sg 2 месяца назад

    I guess this stuff isn't taught at school probably because practical applications probably are fairly limited - unlike those of ordinary exponentiation and multiplication. Unless you get deeper into some subfields perhaps.

  • @cosimomancarella6457
    @cosimomancarella6457 4 месяца назад

    = 2^64?

  • @MUGDHO_BD
    @MUGDHO_BD 6 дней назад

    Answer is 1048576 just 16×65536! Easy😂

  • @Azimsultan919
    @Azimsultan919 5 месяцев назад

    2↑↑7 = 2^2^2^65536

  • @jeffharrison1090
    @jeffharrison1090 10 месяцев назад +1

    I would say, by how exponentially more powerful tetration is the ^3 (2) + ^4 (2) = ^12 (2)

  • @XAXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAAXAXAAX
    @XAXAXAXAXAAXAXAXAAXAXAAX 7 месяцев назад

    teaching system in Turkey teaching us tetration in 5th grade

  • @andreaahplay6152
    @andreaahplay6152 7 месяцев назад

    and pentation

  • @vita7632
    @vita7632 3 месяца назад

    ²2=2²=2•2=2+2

  • @shemiahwalker
    @shemiahwalker 7 месяцев назад

    8

  • @sproopeswar8102
    @sproopeswar8102 6 месяцев назад

    16

  • @srilakshmib8003
    @srilakshmib8003 2 месяца назад

    I think ⁵2

  • @ferncancersong
    @ferncancersong 6 месяцев назад

    The 2 tetrated to 3 * 2 tetrated to 4 is similar to 2^3+2^4
    But if 2 tetrated to 3 is raised to 2 retracted to 4 it is simply
    (2^2^2)^(2^2^2^2)=2^2^2^2^2^2^2= 2 tetrated to 7

  • @ktejakrishna9620
    @ktejakrishna9620 10 месяцев назад

    Answer is 2^20. It can't be written in perfect tetration form

  • @clashthesity
    @clashthesity 10 месяцев назад

    Now tell us about pentration and infinity multiplication series 😂

  • @fahimrahman9824
    @fahimrahman9824 10 месяцев назад

    It will be cool to say I earn 2 to the hyper-power of 4 annually :)

  • @The_Strongest_Emperor_99999
    @The_Strongest_Emperor_99999 7 месяцев назад

    Pentatation is the repetition of tetrations

  • @RyanSmith-lg1cn
    @RyanSmith-lg1cn 6 месяцев назад

    Isn’t the main reason it isn’t taught in school is because it can form numbers with about 10 billion digits

  • @stormatime9426
    @stormatime9426 6 месяцев назад

    I knew

  • @KimBajo
    @KimBajo 8 месяцев назад

    3^^4

  • @subratasarkar2532
    @subratasarkar2532 4 месяца назад

    I don't see well because the sentence cover....

  • @sepehrhaghverdi8977
    @sepehrhaghverdi8977 2 месяца назад +1

    t-shirt: =1/4

  • @BurningShipFractal
    @BurningShipFractal Год назад

    Hi

  • @gdevelek
    @gdevelek 3 месяца назад +4

    It's not taught in school or even college (engineering) because it's pretty much useless.

    • @PRStudios208
      @PRStudios208 2 месяца назад

      Its only useless because we think in 2d instead of the actual 3d world we inhabit.

    • @gdevelek
      @gdevelek 2 месяца назад

      @@PRStudios208 No. It's useless because in the 3d world we inhabit, it doesn't come up in any physics laws, i.e. it doesn't apply anywhere in nature. It's entirely made up.

  • @farmergiles1065
    @farmergiles1065 6 месяцев назад

    If tetration is so *basic* , why isn't it taught, and what are its major applications? That's what makes math basic. I think the word you want is *simple* , because it is indeed easy to understand.

    • @RyanSmith-lg1cn
      @RyanSmith-lg1cn 6 месяцев назад

      It can generate numbers with 10 billion digits and no one is writing all thay

    • @farmergiles1065
      @farmergiles1065 6 месяцев назад

      @@RyanSmith-lg1cn There's nothing complex about 10 billion digits. It's just too long to manage any other way. The idea is still simple.

    • @kerrybarneyiii1202
      @kerrybarneyiii1202 5 месяцев назад

      Simple, yes. Useful? Not really at all.

    • @farmergiles1065
      @farmergiles1065 5 месяцев назад

      @@kerrybarneyiii1202 I have to agree. It's part of what I was saying about it being simple, but not basic.

  • @tontonbeber4555
    @tontonbeber4555 6 месяцев назад

    I don't like this notation, I prefer Knuth's up-arrow notation it's simply written 2^^3.

  • @firebladetenn6633
    @firebladetenn6633 9 месяцев назад

    Answer to the final question is...not even close!

    • @firebladetenn6633
      @firebladetenn6633 9 месяцев назад

      If I'm not mistaken, the first part of the question is (2^16)*16, and the second part of that equation is 2^128.

  • @hitechinc.7875
    @hitechinc.7875 6 месяцев назад

    It's just going to break everything very quickly when the numbers get higher..

  • @ayesha_erotica
    @ayesha_erotica 3 месяца назад

    ^3 of 2 x ^3=4 of 2 = 20^20 while ^7 of two is, 2^2^2^65526, its an infinitive number we cannot calculate practially

  • @chrisgriffith1573
    @chrisgriffith1573 10 месяцев назад

    No, if adding, yes, multiplied, no.

  • @bobismad3792
    @bobismad3792 7 месяцев назад

    its not, right?