Model Y RWD vs Model Y LR side by side WINTER highway range test 100%-0%
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- We wanted to find out what the real world winter range differrence is between a standard Model Y RWD vs a Model Y LR ( Dual Motor)
We managed to drain the batteries "completely" and we now have a good ideea of how they compare in real life. Thanks for watching and let us know which model you will go for :)
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Thank you for the great video, the difference of 50 km between RWD and AWD is really not worth the price of around €7,000. Obviously, RWD is quite enough and I think it has no competition in its class! The best choice is RWD, price ratio, performance, consumption. For me, definitely RWD.
you forget something ;)
there´s AWD and a "little" more power
Yes, it's true that AWD has incredible power, but RWD is completely sufficient for our roads. I'm not a racer :) and I definitely believe that RWD has enough power for our roads.@@micha8765
@@micha8765 Yes, it's true that AWD has incredible power, but RWD is completely sufficient for our roads. I'm not a racer :) and I definitely believe that RWD has enough power for our roads.
yes, I suppose if I would bye a new Y it also would be the RWD. but only with the battery from BYD and not the one from CATL @@dmdam7498
Great deal for Southern states. If you live in wintery climate, AWD is definitively a benefit
Great test! Super you performed this making sure the circumstances for both cars were comparable. Looking forward to a similar test in summer conditions!
A heavily underrated channel, period.
Awesome comparison. I've got a TMY RWD and did ~5kkm round Europe trip last summer with no issues at all, but kept on having the thought if I did really choose well not going with the LR (which was not eligible for incentives and thus approx +15k$ more). No regrets now. RWD performance is more than enough, and efficiency is King 💪
I 100% agree. Went on a 4000km trip myself and the charging stops were perfect for me and my family. Going an extra 50km would've helped maybe once but overall not worth it ( for me )
On RWD its BYD battery or CATL?
Good job on the switching positions on the highway. For reference I would appreciate also that you mention what it says on the forecast for the wind conditions. Its same for both of the cars but impacts the consumption values reached.
And I think -1c weather is not winter consumption if roads are perfectly dry so you could drive with summer tires.
Also mention and show which tires you are running on each car. Rolling resistance plays big role in the range...
Since you already have both of the models I would like to see a side by side comparison when you put tall and narrow wheels for the SR. Something like 215/55R18 will gain you about 10% more range. If you need help selecting setup just ask me or watch my videos.
Off topic. We spent 3 weeks in Sibiu before Covid. This was a truly amazing trip and a beautiful part of the world to visit. Everyone was so nice.
That's a really nice area to visit in Romania 😁
Very helpful video, thanks. Interested to see what range you get in warmer conditions: 10C and then 20C please!
The other interesting use case is winding country roads, not many people test in those conditions.
Good useful comparison, thanks
Very Good comparison! From my point of view LR means longer range, more power, 4 wheel drive and faster charging speeds. All those features make LR a better choice.
Well of course it's better. But range is marginal. Charging power at the peak, then they go quite similar, plus dual motorway using more, so basically they can travel at the same pace.
Definitely nice to have all wheel drive and 500HP but is worth 8k € which is +20%? I don't think so.
LR AWD is a better car, but value for money is better with SR RWD.
Nice test and great job ! I would mention though, the WLTP isn't done at 130 km/h, but more like 80 km/h. So one shouldn't be amazed that driving an EV @ 130 km/h it didn't match the WLTP numbers.
I fully agree. Maybe one day if we're feeling brave we'll go on a 6 hour long trip to drain them in the summer at slower speeds 😁
Great. Picking MYLR in Monday 🤞, only went to LR because of 4x4 and I'm cruising the mountains in the winter, so RW despite better batteries wasn't the correct choice. Come to Krapets to have some surfing and MY talks.
One more interesting thing to see would be how these line up in terms of performance at lower states of charge. LFP keeps high battery voltage all the way down, while LR looses the power gradually. At low state (5-10%) I wouldn't be surprised if RWD was faster than LR 🙂
for reference M3 LR at 90% has 0-100 of 4,43 , at 20% 4,92 and at 10% 6,15 , while M3 SR+ at 90% has 0-100 of 6,19 whilst at 10% it's at 6,41 so yeah probably below 10% the tables change. but over 15% its not a contest. ( stats from Bjorn Nyland )
Great video ,thanks guys. I live in Switzerland and am about to buy a Model Y SR which should come from GigaBerlin. I notice your car has the ambient lighting which I didn’t see on the tester. Is this direct from the factory, and are there any other soft updates for the SR Model Y like HW 4.0 cameras? Merci!!
Great video for people lime me that is looking at one of these cars for winter trips to ski resorts, what tires were you running on these cars?
Michelin Crossclimate 2s on both.
I've got to be honest here.. as much as I love RWD and always advocate for AWD being unnecessary for 90% of people. Traction is better for the dual motor in fresh snow.
On the roads it's irrelevant but climbing a mountain road with fresh snow with a RWD Y will most likely get you stuck.
Thank you for the test. Can you repeat the test with 110 km/h please?
Excellent video. Did bought cars have the same tires as well? At the end of the range test did you do a test to charge the two cars to 100% to see how much energy was delivered from the charger, this way you can do real-world energy usage combined with the charging losses. This way the difference in consumption might be bigger or smaller depending on how much energy was delivered from the charger.
Hi, yes both cars had the same tires. We didn't get a chance to charge them after unfortunately
@@Twin.motors maybe after doing the summer-warm weather test you can include this test as well? Anyway thanks for the excellent video.
@@StefanRUclips sure thing we'll do that for the next one
That 50 km range difference can be a difference to which supercharger you go to and also how long you charge at a supercharger and that could affect journey times.
Of course it does help but you're paying for that extra 50km 24/7 by using 10% more energy AND by paying an additional 7k ish for the car. So while the extra range still exists, I would say it's mostly down to the extra power
@@Twin.motorsextra power and awd 😊 But I agree and also went for the RWD myself.
You buy an LR for 20%more range which is very significant for many together with 4 wheel drive.
It really depends where you live and how snowy It is. I've been driving rwd my whole life, even in snowy conditions it's perfectly fine if you have good winter tires. The Main takeaway from our videos is that the LR's benefit isn't range (as the name implies ) but it's power. The extra 200hp is very much felt while the extra 50km isn't really a significant enough advantage for most to spend an extra 7k. Most new EV buyers have range anxiety and that's the biggest thing for them
@@Twin.motors the vidéo shows the exact opposite. The Long Range has 20% more range. It also charges much faster.
You think 20% is not a lot. I find it significant.
For instance, a 700 trip in a AWD in Winter will look like :
Drive 3h and 280km, stop 12mn, drive again 1h et stop for lunch for 40mn, drive again 2h30 and stop for 7mn to have enough at destination to not be completely empty.
On a RWd, it will be 2h15 driving max (not a lot), 30mn of pause, drive 1h and you stop for lunch after having driven 30-50km less. Then after 40mn you leaves drive again 2h and stop 30mn to make it to the destination.
It is a significant difference because stopping 10mn after 2h30-3h if drive is quite different than stopping half an hour after 2h
Please do a test where you measure the kW, horsepower and nm torque on a pad for both models. Thanks a lot
The best of Tesla, is the software and FSD esp when v12 is going to roll out soon. The range, whether it is AWD or RWD, the motor really isn’t that important. I will buy the cheapest possible trim next time.
Can you do some new video's under the spring weather conditions? 🙂
Yes we're planning on doing multiple tests next week and we'll post the videos as soon as we have them 😁
@@Twin.motors Cool! Looking forward to you're videos!
Lucky us that you have both cars and produce these simple but rather concrete comparisons. What battery the RWD has? CATL? BYD?
I believe it's the CATL. I'm trying to get my hands on a BYD one too and test them all. There aren't many of them around sadly.. for whatever reason RWD models barely exist here. For every 50 LR I see one RWD
Thank you very much for the test!! Could you please do the same test in Summer? I am very curious wat the difference Will be. Thanks again !
Hi, yes that's coming up in a little while 😁 we're curious as well to see the difference in warm weather
@@Twin.motors perfect!!! Thank you!
This was really the first realistic test at a temperature of -2 degrees. Yes, and at a speed of 130 km/h! Great, that's much more realistic than 90 km/h. That's what makes this test so good!
hi thanks for the great video comparison but my question what w is the great looking interor purple lighting band around you dash board
thanks :) this is the ambient light I used, looks amazing
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Thanks, great videos
Do you have the same tires in ooth cars? It could make some difference also.
@@pj8602 hi. Yes! Same tires :)
Not too far off the relative figures listed by Tesla.
WLTP sees the LR listed with 17% more miles than RWD.
Your calculation sees 20% more range.
Strange, but why did you not buy LR RWD, it’s just amazing range… In the summer without AC on the highway speed 110-130 km/h, range it’s amazing 600+ km… With AC 500-550km. Winter time 500km without any problem.
@@alexa795 There was no Y RWD LR when we got ours. I can see how you'd get 500km on highway at 110kmh but at 130kmh it's unlikely
@@Twin.motors Not important what are you thinking, that it’s the truth, speed between 110-130km/h. Rent-car some time model with LR RWD and test, then you will know and be amazed 🙌🏻
Model y rwd how many kw is the battaery ?
Do you have after-market ambient lighting installed ?
Yeah they are aftermarket, from AliExpress. They're very cheap, under 20$ but they look great
Thanks for the reply. It looks awesome. Do you have a link for it? Is it easy to install? @@Twin.motors
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At the end of the video, the LR has the performance carbon fiber spoiler and the performance badging with the red underline underneath ‘dual motor’.
Did the guy put those on after market to a LR Y or is this actually a Performance Y? The results would make more sense if it was a Performance Y being compared to the standard range, as well as the big jump in speed that you’re talking about.
The dual motor underline is black, nothing red on it. It's a regular LR with some visual mods
@@Twin.motors thanks for clarifying. Surprised there wasn’t more range difference between LR and SR!
What is the battery capacity kwh for both Y?
It's time for a summer test. What do you think guys?
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Hi in real life how many miles does the RWD gives on full charge
Depends on usage and weather but overall you can be confident at around 250 miles ( 400km)
Fremont version rwd has the LR battery but software limited. When battery percentage hits zero, you'll get 20-30 more miles out of it if you're brave enough 😂
Yes RWD has 50 km less range, but when the car is already 5y old and has done some distance it will be 100 km less range because of degradation.
LR is the way to go if you want to keep the car for a long time
But Red has lfp battery, which is more durable
@@michal6531
hypotheticaly NMC has 1500 cycles LFP 2500
The LFP will still degrade 10-15% after 5 years and 200.000 kmh.
Its just harder to kill
clearly you are clueless about batteries
Wltp are just 4 characters no meaning behind, next time test with 200km/h so you can brag even more how Tesla webpage states something wrong.
misleading video. NO ONE drives ONLY 130km/h and claims that it is not as advertized as 500km. That number derives from a mixed use of highway and city street. If you drive 80-100km/h, you can get even more than 500km of range.
That wasn't the point of the video. We wanted to see the range at 130km/h. We've gotten more than the WLTP range many times with both these Ys.
This is a worst case scenario. Winter tires, 130km/h and 0c degree weather.
And the main purpose of the video was to see the differences between them in terms of range.
@@Twin.motorsAh, gotcha, my bad :) but even the worst case scenario wasn't that bad. 300km is good enough.