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Twin Motors
Добавлен 10 апр 2017
We are two identical twins with an unhealthy obsession of cars, we've owned over 40 cars together and we're glad to share our experiences and knowledge with you.
Tesla Model Y RWD vs Model Y Long Range Spring highway efficiency test
For those looking at buying a new Model Y we made a video to show the efficiency differences between the RWD and LR models in Spring conditions. (20-25 celsius)
Thanks for watching !
0:00 The test
3:42 destination reached
4:06 efficiency results (halfway point)
6:52 Results
7:27 Conclusion
Thanks for watching !
0:00 The test
3:42 destination reached
4:06 efficiency results (halfway point)
6:52 Results
7:27 Conclusion
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Tela Model Y RWD vs Long Range Supercharger battle ( summer 35c )
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.3 месяца назад
Which Model Y is better for long trips and quick charging? the results were very surprizing. The Model Y RWD is LFP China build. Mid 2023 production The Model Y Dual is Belring build. Mid-late 2023 production 0:00 Supercharging battle 1:18 Charging starts 6:33 Calibrating 10:14 Winning Tesla gets to 100% 11:02 2nd place Tesla gets to 100% 11:26 Conclusion
Tesla Model Y roof rack highway speed Range impact ?
Просмотров 3993 месяца назад
There are other videos on youtube doing comparisons with and without bars but they all did them on short distances or slow speeds. This test took 4 hours and it consistent of 200km at highway speeds of 130km/h ( 80 mph ). I hope this answers your curiosities, results definately surprized me. 0:00 Roof bar range test 1:40 Destination 3:30 No roof bar test results 6:05 Sound comparison bars/no ba...
Model Y RWD vs Model Y LR side by side WINTER highway range test 100%-0%
Просмотров 20 тыс.8 месяцев назад
We wanted to find out what the real world winter range differrence is between a standard Model Y RWD vs a Model Y LR ( Dual Motor) We managed to drain the batteries "completely" and we now have a good ideea of how they compare in real life. Thanks for watching and let us know which model you will go for :) if you're looking to buy a Tesla now, feel free to use our referral code so you'll get a ...
Tesla Model Y RWD vs Model Y Long Range Winter highway and city efficiency test
Просмотров 47 тыс.8 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching our video, i hope this helped in case you were on the fence about which model to get. If you're planning on buying a Tesla please use our referral link as you will get a discount or awards ( depending on location ) Use my referral link to buy a Tesla and get awards like 3 months of Enhanced Autopilot. ts.la/mihai868924 If you've ever wondered what the energy efficiency diffe...
2023 Tesla Model Y RWD ( LFP ) vs 2023 Y Long Range Winter Supercharging test
Просмотров 9 тыс.8 месяцев назад
Ever wondered which Model Y would charge faster in the Winter? We set out to answer just that, very interesting results, it certainly makes picking one over the other that much harder. Hope this video helps anyone deciding between them.
2023 Tesla Model Y RWD vs VW e-UP efficiency test
Просмотров 891Год назад
The Model Y is very efficient and we wanted to put that to the test against one of the most efficient EVs on the market, the VW e-UP. We drove them both behind each other at identical speeds in identical conditions and even the drivers weigh the exact same so it's as fair as it gets.
Mazda Mx5 ND steering wheel push start button mod
Просмотров 8 тыс.Год назад
I bought this push start stop button from carbon miata -www.carbonmiata.com/shop/mazda-mx-5/nd-15-mazda-mx-5-mazda-mx-5/interior-parts-nd-15-mazda-mx-5-nd-15-mazda-mx-5-mazda-mx-5/steering-wheels/race-push-start-button-miata-nd-mk4/ . I thought it was going to be an easy mod since most mods have detailed instructions. Unfortunately this was not the case so i figured i'd make this video to help ...
Mazda MX5/Miata ND hood/bonnet strut quick retrofit installation
Просмотров 1,6 тыс.2 года назад
We don't open our hoods/bonnet often but when we do we're greeted with a cheap experience due to the stick holding it up. This cheap mod allows us to modernize our modern sports cars a little bit.
Upgrade your Mercedes ambient lights w221 S class ( works for many Mercedes models)
Просмотров 25 тыс.4 года назад
The original LED ambient lights on Mercedes cars from 2006-2016 are terrible and very weak. This cheap mod will bring your car up to date and it'll have the same intensity and look as a 2020 E or S class. so this works for w212, w218, x218, basically any Mercedes with ambient lighting. even if you DON'T have the ambient light option, the transparent strip are still there.
Thanks for sharing this video/instruction. Fitted mine and it worked immediately👍🏻
Would be interesting to see the LR RWD vs the SR RWD
Great video, also not what I would have expected. Tesla's website in the US lists 320 miles for the RWD and 308 for the AWD. They are both long range Model Y. So seeing your AWD went further was really not expected. Keep up the good work!
This is rwd with ”short range”?
@@basictimes4554 yes, short range rwd.
The Up! is way way more efficient, I average under 10kwh/100km with mine for mixed driving. I bet those silly oversized wheels you have put on this one are absolutely killing the efficiency
@@justinholding02 we have 2 E-Ups, the other one is bone stock and it gets the same consumption, the wheels don't seem to have made much impact but I'm sure there is a difference
Any more comparison videos to come?
@@xghostyxjokerx what would you like to see ? 😁
Salut, felicitari pentru clip video ! Am cateva intrebari daca nu te superi. 1. Care este starea masinii pe timpul iernii in Romania la -20 poate chiar mai mult... Stiu ca ceva informatii pe internet spune sa nu o lasi la -25 grade . 2. Se gasesc cauciucuri all seson pentru tesla model y? Sau trebuie doar ceva produse de ei vara/iarna? 3. Stiu ceva despre masina ca daca folosesti navigarea iti adapteaza range-ul de km parcursi in functe de destinatie avand in vedere toate aspectele precum tipul de drum temperatura si altitudinea gen dealuri si vai. este adevarat acest lucru ? Pentru ca multi critica ca una scrie la plecare si alta cand ajung la destinatie (dar cel mai probabil nu folosesc navigatia si randamentul se modifica in functie de multi termeni) Concluzia mea: La fel ca si la cele pe benzina si restu ... cred ca prosti sa fim dar clar ca difera consumu ca si la alea e la fel. Una scrie pe cartea tehnica si tu ai un consum de minim 20% mai mare de cat scrie. Nu ma astept sa pot face 500+ cu o tesla urcand pe munte cand acel range este facut pe alt fel de drum. Caut sa cumpar modelul Y 2024 nou . Ce recomandari ai pentru mine pentru a alege masin potrivita si modelul potrivit. Sunt inclinat pe dual motor cu range de 525km ... Ceva sfaturi pentru mine inainte sa fac aceasta achizitie ? Multumesc !
E o masina normala că oricare alta doar că e electrica. Deci anvelope poți lua de care vrei, nu trebuie sa fie EV specific pentru că nu is mai grele deloc comparat cu o mașină echivalenta pe benzina sau diesel. Anvelope de EV is mai mult pentru consum mai bun. In Canada se plimba cu Tesla la -40c, La -20c nu ai nici o problema, le-am folosit normal. Navigație e enervanta pentru că calculează TOT. Elevație, vînt și viteza, deci foarte rar scoți mai mult decât zice pe bord cand mergi la drum lung. Daca mergi prin zăpadă sau off road mai bine iei dual motor, daca vrei viteza mare și accelerație puternica, ia dual motor. Dar autonomia aia in plus e mai mult pe hârtie decât în realitate. Un compromis ar fi Model Y long range tracțiune spate ( RWD).
Strange, but why did you not buy LR RWD, it’s just amazing range… In the summer without AC on the highway speed 110-130 km/h, range it’s amazing 600+ km… With AC 500-550km. Winter time 500km without any problem.
@@alexa795 There was no Y RWD LR when we got ours. I can see how you'd get 500km on highway at 110kmh but at 130kmh it's unlikely
@@Twin.motors Not important what are you thinking, that it’s the truth, speed between 110-130km/h. Rent-car some time model with LR RWD and test, then you will know and be amazed 🙌🏻
Lol
How much did you charge the client I would want it in my car 2009 S550
@@mpcbeats it was my own car. To be honest the cost of the materials is very low.. under 100$. The labor involved is "costly" in terms of hours 😁
Hi,this is Hansshow,we are specialized in Tesla accessories,how do we reach out for collaboration?
hi, how can we contact you for collaborations?
@@norazheng7628 hey. You can email me at mtpetrisor.work@gmail.com 😊
I didn’t have the same results unfortunately. But I’m glad it’s working out for you
@@Luie28x is your range affected more than my results or how are they different?
Thanks guys this is very interesting.
Really interesting 👍🏻 great videos 👍🏻 Keep it coming 💪🏻
What? 😂
The LG battery in the LR is really not that impressive. I had a 2019 Model 3 with the Panasonic battery - that was the charging king! Still not beaten, now 5 years later. I hear from every corner: Oh, don't buy an EV, the progress is so fast, a 3 years old car is a relict... Well, not from my experience :)
You should have put a small amount a general use grease into the socket both ends before attaching. It’s not illegal to install these aftermarket struts on cars anywhere that I know of in the world. Also you don’t remove the actual support arm anyway. Finally the hood on a ND MX-5 is extreme light, I can’t see it hurting anyone to badly if both struts magically lost their seals at the same time.
I would like to see a comparison on daily use over a longer period, where the RWD can and should charge to a 100% where the LR should not be charged to more than 80%.
@@jriis2010 nah. Every EV should be charged to 100%. We've been charging our EVs for years to 100% and will continue to do so since we paid 100% for them. They have 8 years of warranty on the battery so even long term is not an issue
@@Twin.motors Yes, but only the LFP type should be charged to 100% on a daily basis to reduce degrating the battery. But if that or money (resale) is not an issue, you are quite right.
Do you have the same tires in ooth cars? It could make some difference also.
@@pj8602 hi. Yes! Same tires :)
What's the purple led strip you have on the dash?
Did you precondition car at 100% before you went? (This increases range, most likely more for the Rwd, because it has more mass to heat per kWh) Also preconditioning for charging increases energy usage, you did this with RWD not AWD, messes up data
@@MrGoogle87 they were both preconditioned for an identical amount of time so the test is as fair as possible.
Did you precondition car at 100% before you went? (This increases range, most likely more for the Rwd, because it has more mass to heat per kWh)
is the wheels 19 or 20
@@issiewizzie 19 on both
@@Twin.motors thanks
Just upgraded from a RWD to LR here in Oz. It's winter here now and I'm seeing much the same as your winter comparison.
Nice tests on your channel! Could you do a midrange acceleration test ("race") from 50 or 60 km/h to 120 km/h with these 2 model Y's? Quite curious if the difference is as big as from a standstill, where we know the RWD is electronically power limited.
@@JosGrun it's a little tricky since the dual motor had the boost update but we compared them pre-boost and the difference is not that big. Overall I feel the RWD could use another 50hp and the dual motor is too powerful for its own good
@@Twin.motors Haha I can imagine. Is your RWD the one with the BYD blade battery or the CATL? And indeed thought already that in standard form the mid-range performance would be quite similar between the RWD and the LR. I drive the model Y RWD with BYD blade battery and haven't had a moment that I thought that i needed more power. (So I will never make a testdrive in the LR / Performance.. For my own safety)
@@JosGrun the RWD has a CATL battery. BYD battery sounds like a nice improvement overall
You can swipe to the right or down and autocratically start calculating for heading home if you are away or to your office address if you are home. Less clicking 😊
@@dinutepes hmm didn't know that, thanks for the tip
Great English, congratulations! Very interesting, and I am glad I purchased a Model Y, LFP REW.
Hi guys. Really like your videos but shouldn’t the test have been how long it takes the Tesla Model Y Long Range to reach 80% as it’s a larger battery… can’t remember if it’s 75kWh for the LR… versus reaching 100% on the Tesla Model Y RWD LFP battery… can’t remember if that’s a 60kWh battery. If the LR reaches 80% before the RWD reaches 100% and has more range then it’s the winner 🤪despite the RWD maxing out at 150kWh compared to 250kWh on the LR. Having other Tesla’s charging in the bays next to you meant the challenge took twice as long you’d be sharing power compared to not having to share power if you had empty stalls on both sides but nice video none the less.
@@michaelsamaan895 these are V4 chargers so no sharing involved. The LR briefly went up to 190kw during the test too. The LRs 80% is not the same as the RWD 100% according to multiple tests we've done, at best it's 10% more range. We're actually doing another video to settle this once and for all lol Tomorrow we will charge them preconditioned to 100% again and post the results
Is it catl or byd battery? 60kw?
@@ekocumben it's CATL, I would love to go head to head with a BYD pack and see how they supercharge in comparison.
@@Twin.motors We bought a Tesla sr, it is catl60 but it gets 53.5kw in fully charge. Service says after 10fully charge or about after first 3000km, it will shows best performance. Did you see any difference first 2000-3000km in terms of range.
@@ekocumben I found the battery to be very consistent, no noticeable drop in range and I keep track of common trips that I do every month and % use. I have over 30,000km so far. ( I'm sure there's some sort of loss but it's not noticeable )
At 41% charge level consumption was 34 kwh. That makes battery capacity 57.62 kw, which is very good. In 2024 catl rwd we calculate the capacity 53.5 kw unfortunately.
@@worms32para un LFP de CATL tienes que “jugar” con la carga, 20-70, 10-60, 1-65 y una vez cada dos semanas cargar al 100% y veras mejoria, te apareceran los kwh. Yo tengo el Y RWD LFP de CATL desde junio 2023 con 53.000km y al principio no sabia y cargaba 20-70% y a 100% cada mes y esto hizo confundir a BMS que me salia que me queda solo 51kwh de bateria. Un tecnico de Tesla me dijo que tengo que la carga lo haga cada vez diferente, si no necesito bateria que lo cargue hasta 70% cuando llego a 10% lo pongo a cargar hasta 60% …es para que la BMS sepa cual sin los valores. Pues hice que me dijieron y ahora resulta que tengo la bateria a 58,85Kwh y he perdido solo 1,15kwh y degradacion de 1,92% y tengo 53.000km.
Hello Was the rwd always driving behind the dual drive?
@@lucdelouw9226 no, we alternated every 15 minutes to keep things even
It looks that supercharger is splitting its power between your two cars. So 250 / 2 = 125Kw and thats almost what you both get. Because at that low state of charge LR is able to get almost 250Kw and that is not happening here.
@@Azsmodaen the supercharger is V4, I've charged at that charger many times with it 100% occupied and pulled the max 175kw so it shouldn't be the case. I think we will try the test again soon with them fully conditioned to see if anything changes. Btw, the LR very very rarely hits 250kw and when it does it's for a minute or two.
I have the RWD and prefer it for the cost (7000 euro less) and the fact that its plenty fast enough. I also like that I can charge to 100% routinely without major degradation. In terms of options, the RWD is identical to the AWD except for front fog lights.
I believe that the stereo in the RWD have less speakers also.
@@RayNLAthat’s not the case in Europe, we get full premium audio in the RWD
@@sissach1 Also in Australia, with the Shanghai based Model Y's.
Great video and test. As I mentioned in the previous video (charging from 0% to 100%) you posted, the LR will always be the winner vs the SR by about 15 minutes, no matter the distance to travel. Now, the question to answer would be : do you want to pay more for those 15 minutes ? (and of course the rest : AWD, better sound system, fog lights). What's interesting, both cars came back home with 4% although both navigations said 9%. And yes, 8% efficiency difference between the two is just right. Why ? Because the AWD Tesla doesn't run always on the two motors. Mostly it runs on RWD and uses the front motor only when needed. This is why it was worse in winter drive, because it engages the front motor every time the tires slip. And the front motor is the less efficient one.
@@voldar70 both have the premium sound system. We charge ours to 100% every time ( at home ) and often we had to charge to 100% since superchargers are far away sometimes in Europe. I would love to have a genuine race one time but over a 2000km distance to see exactly which would get back home first. ( Within speed limits of course )
@@Twin.motors As far as I know the SR sound system is lacking some speakers. I agree that a 2000 km run would be great, but you can project on ABPR a route of 2000 km using once the LR and then the SR. You will see the difference between the two pretty quick : the bigger the distance, the bigger the difference.
@@voldar70 @voldar70 in Europe they both have the premium sound system. Only the model 3 has a weaker sound system vs the LR model 3. Those apps don't estimate correctly, even the Tesla one makes mistakes sometimes, I wouldn't trust a 3rd party app like ABRP. But a real world test would be awesome to do
My understanding was the Model Y RWD sound system was also premium, it was only the Model 3 that had a downgraded stereo in the RWD. So you gain quicker acceleration, add slightly more range when you charge to 100%, you give up some efficiency and likely see higher battery degradation, with a battery that is also less safe, although this is a very small risk. With a more than 20% price difference in Australia it is hard to justify for most.
Thanks a LOT!
Nice vid, i love the useful comparison. I would love to see a test between Model 3 RWD (Highland) and Model 3 AWD (highland).
I would say that you should tell your brother not to be upset about his Tesla LR. He's the winner in reality. For the following reason : > starting the journey at 100% each of you, the LR will drive farther than the SR. By about 70 km farther (if I remember correct, in winter the difference was 50 km when you did the test). Driving this distance at 130 km/h takes about 32 minutes. So, the 16 minutes between the two charging from 0 to 100% aren't a problem. The LR will always be ahead of the SR by at least 15 minutes. Now, lets say the two will always stop after about 2 hours of driving (about 250 km). The SR at 130 km/h is doing about 190 Wh/km. The LR would be around 200 Wh/km. So, the SR would need 47,5 kWh while the LR would need 50 kWh to charge for the next leg. In % this means the SR would need to charge to 80% while the LR would need to charge to 64%. In real life, the SR would need to charge up to 90% while the LR would need to charge to 74% (buffer 10%). The SR charging to 90% means more time than the LR charging to 74%. So, in the end, the SR is always slower than the LR, in real life. In the video above, yes, we can always say what we want. A great video nonetheless. 👏
@Twin Motors Off the topic - i use Y SR BYD battery 07.2023 gigaberlin made , suppose if we have setup after market accessories 1) front display screen with front camera fitted and 2) back screen entertainment screen and 3) ambient lighting will this consume lot of battery ?
@@rakeshgopidi4066 I have a rear screen in the back and LED lights that are basically always on. It won't impact the battery much at all. Under 0.1% per day Oh and the LR has about 8 metres of LED lights in his, always on and it's the same story, no impact on battery
@Twin Motors Thanks for the great videos, i use SR RWD with BYD batter (Giga grünheide) if we charge to 100% all seasons will the battery on long term impacts ?
@@rakeshgopidi4066 for LFP it's recommended you charge to 100%. I've kept mine at 100% since day one, my brother with his dual motor LR does the same. In fact we've been driving EVs for 5 years and we charge them to 100% overnight all the time, I am not a fan of the " charge to 80%" mentality.
Also since you guys have both rwd and lr, maybe you could try a downhill regen test, since the lr should theoretically regen more because of the two motors. Also, have you guys thought about testing regen settings in country roads without autopilot? I'm really curious if coasting is more economical than one pedal driving, sexy buttons i think allows modulating the regen amount
@@gameover-tp7ie we've actually done a regen test. I didn't get around to editing the video since it was wildly inconsistent. At one point the LR stopped much faster and then in other attempts they were the same.
the front motor is not able to regen! it is a completely different type of electric engine
you lost alot of range due to that preconditioning, actually you ran most of the trip with the preconditioning on in the rwd, the lr could make it back with a full charge, it probably didn't even start the preconditioning. You should just drive there without selecting the charger on the route so you count out the preconditioning loss, i bet that the rwd would also do it on a single charge without preconditioning, or at least come VERY close :)
This makes big difference indeed
1) Regular batteries you dont charge to 100% (but you can do so on LFP) 3) If you want to compare the RWD vs the AWD (since they have LFP vs NMC) - you should charge the LFP to 100% and stop charging the NMC at same km charged (is it 80%?), in this way you do a fair comparison. 4) When doing long travels, most likely you charge 10% to 80% on NMC and 10% to 100% on LFP, so maybe this is the way you should compare it. It makes the most sence, since charging 80% to 100% on NMC takes the same time as 10% to 80%. (more or less). And you have enough range to reach next supercharger.
The only interesting number is: How many km can a car charge per time. I assume the LR model is upfront.
Yes the LR did charge 110km more of "range" but it took 16 minutes longer. Which model is best really depends on what you need and how you use it. For long multi supercharger trips the RWD would have an advantage but for areas lacking superchargers the LR might be better
Thats true but you never charge to 100% and so if you want to just charge a bit then lr is also better choice. Best is to look at kwh charged rather than percentage as 60% of 76kwh is the same as 80% of 58kwh. Btw I am an owner of rwd with byd battery which charges insanely fast, which i guess would be even faster in this test
@@ViTK0_ well yes and no, mostly because the LR uses about 20% more energy so it needs to have more kw charged just to match the RWD. It's an interesting equation, from our little tests I would recommend the "long range" for more power only since the range benefit is fairly small
@@Twin.motors thats a fair point, btw love your videos, keep up the good work :)
@@Twin.motors 20 % more? that would be 19.2 instead oder 16 kWh/100 km doubt it best choice in my eyes would be the LR RWD ;) according to WLTP less consumption than the SR RWD and the delta in € is not that much
Thank you for the testing. You guys are really my reference for when it comes to comparing RWD vs AWD battery performance!
Now do this same test but with a box up top. Just the bars are no biggie. Minimal impact on range. I'm getting my bars tomorrow and I use a box for our road trips so this will be interesting.
The point is to see if bars have any tangible effect on range.
@@Twin.motors that is definitely a nope but if you respond to what I wrote in my edit and not the original message that would be great. Nice test tho
@@m3ile0hig3h i don't have a box, I use the roof rack for carrying my bike sometimes. That definitely impacts range. At least 10% from what I noticed, I would imagine a roof box to be similar or more
@@Twin.motors thanks for the response. Sorry if my original reply came off hostile. I just hope I can make it to the next supercharger on my trip when I get my rack with my Thule box.
Nice video! Since you have both, may i ask, when it is dual motor, the weight increased, it leads to more bumpy in cabin. Can you feel it?
To be honest the dual motor feels ever so slightly more comfortable on bumps. I have a suspicion they have the same suspension meaning that it's geared more towards the heavier models
@@Twin.motorsthe another YTB said, due rear one lighter , so when you turning feels more confident. When I go test driver both, I cannot really feel anything. Hahaha. I think only when you drive long while rear first, then change to all wheel, you can feel the difference.
Or another way around, all wheel for long while first, then swap to rear one.
There is only one thing that puts me off from getting the RWD... and it's the audio system. If the LR RWD has the premium audio, that'd be awesome!
It depends what country or region you're in. In Europe they all have the premium sound system. I know North America is different though
@@Twin.motors Didn't know that, thanks!
@@Twin.motorsnot true
looks like you dont know difference betwen kwh and kw. When it is kw you use kwh and vise versa.
It's time for a summer test. What do you think guys?
Kw/H This is a non unit!