S1 EP17 | WOODWORK | TIMBER FRAME BASICS | DAY TWO BUILDING THE CABIN
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- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025
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In this diy timber framing video, we continue to construct the cabin in the woods using both modern and traditional hand tools. The mortise and tenon are basic frame work on the 7 x 7 post and beam along with the 7 x 10 beams that will support the floor joist. It is coming along and the modified extension on the tractor is the key. Follow us through three more videos to the final stage of the cabins basic frame work.
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We love it going back and finding all the old ones doing a great job hope one day I’ll get down there and meet you and the kids my wife is in a chair now she fell and can’t walk now
So keep going be safe
Yeah I think we’ve come along way since then. Glad you’re going back and watching the old ones as I do from time to time. Hope you have a great week ahead
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That old man strength aint nothing to mess with. Moving those posts all day ain't easy.
lol, you got that right… moving posts constantly. But the “old man strength” I don’t feel 😂 ha ha ha
I just found your channel and have been watching on my computer. I bought a saw mill that should be ready for pickup in February. I am going to try some timber frame construction using wood from my property as well. I have an orange Kubota mx5100 and love it. Your hacks for that are something I'm going to do. Especially to the box blade. Thanks for all your time and dedication to this.
Welcome aboard! Thanks for joining! Let us know how your project goes or if you have any questions
Cool to see. Like the ingenuity of the added bar frame to the loader to reach higher. Might do that on my bucket as well.
It worked out well. We also have a video in playlist on how we made it. Thanks for watching and have a blessed week
I'm starting to learn. I have experience in carpentry but I just now entered to the timber world, seems to me that once you master the joints, it's pretty fast paced, once you have the jigs that is what I'm missing, for my router. The chisels I already have them good, I've been sharpening them and Japanese knives with whetstones for a decade. Thanks for sharing this video
You’re more than welcome Luis. We are currently building a timber frame workshop behind the sawmill that you may be interested in as well
I L❤VE your building's! I have been looking at them for a year now. I hope and pray to be able to have one someday!! It's a dream right now and I want to make it a goal somehow. Y'all are hard worker's and your building's show that. Thank you!! Julie from Missouri. (Midwest MO.)😊
Well, thank you so much for such a nice compliment. I don’t work hard I just do a little bit every day and sooner or later it gets done. We’re glad to have you on board with us and hope that you enjoy the content. We always look forward to the comments And wish you a great weekend
Happy Sunday looks great keep it up from the North Woods of Wisconsin
Thank you, teacher, for laying out the technique of assembling the quadrants and leveling them to the floor. I would like to see you master as I stand the pillars on the concrete. very kind to enzeñar., from Chile🇨🇱 a big hug.
Lol, welcome
Nice video, nice work. I'm about to start in on a porch that consists of 8x8 x 10' posts and 3 20+ foot 8x8 beams with pegged scarf joints to make a continuous beam. I have to rig a block and tackle lift up with a simple gantry tied to the posts so I can lift the beams by myself. When I saw your gantry on the Kubota bucket my first thought was 'Hey, that's cheating'. Nice system, sure makes life simpler.
30 years ago I showed up at a roofing job with a japanese saw, the main contractor laughed at it till I showed him what it could do flush cutting a 2x4. Cool to see it used here. Tough to beat the right tool for the right job.
They do a great job
Nice work!
thanks guys for the great video and for sharing your beautiful project. I love it that a father and son are working together on something like this. Hopefully my 12 year old and I build something as beautiful one day. Blessings on you guys
Thank you, and the same to you as well.
Gentlemean! Thank you very much for sharing your time and craftsmanship with us! Thank you.
YOUR VERY WELCOME
truely an art of carpentry at its best..... Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the nice compliment
Love timber frame. Even tho there's power tools and hardware, it's awesome. Subscribed.
Beautiful work for just two men. I love the traditional joinery with the tenons and wood pegs. I would love to have a home built with timbers.I look forward to seeing your progress!
Thank you. Welcome. Stay tuned for much more...
I love working with the old tools in the old way. That being said, I appreciate your use of ratchet straps and cutting your mortices with a router, etc. Our ancestors were just men trying to get work done, and they used tools and architecture that was state of the art at the time. They would have cut their mortises with a router too if they had one available. Thanks for the video.
Your welcome and welcome to the channel
Agreed! Hand tools are cool and all, but like that's a BIG job anyway. I guarantee you old Jedediah Springfield would've killed for power tools -- lol ;-)
You have things going your way. Great to see father and son working well together and doing great things. Thanks for sharing with us
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It is nice to see a father and son working together. That is rare these day's.
Hello! Do y'all still have the monthly giveaway's?
Nice video.
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Great video thanks
Nice work, I'm planning a cabin build soon.
great job
Thank you
Good job
It's really beautiful and very nice jop
Thank you
Another good job you and your son did a very good job and I guess I made a mistake I don’t think she’s your daughter she must be hurt your sons lady God bless
Great progress. I like the extension you made for your bucket.
It is cool, eh?
Thanks
I have learned a lot. Thanks
Great job, well done, lads. Just enjoyed looking after processing. Greeting from Belarus and UK
Thank you
Amazing you can drill that straight freehand
Looking good, great job guy’s!
Glad you like it. Stay tuned for the rest of the build.
Great video, Glad i found the channel
Thanks!
This is bad ass. House fabricated like a furniture.
Thank you!
Nice Work! Starting to really take shape now.
Well, we are pleased you like the videos and it is beginning to look like a building. Stay tuned for the rest of the build.
Looks pretty good!
Hi,!
Every your movement shows your are very proffetional.
YOU ARE DOING GREAT JOB, I'M ARCHITECTURE STUDENT ITS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME
I am glad! Thank you.
Your extension device on the front end is really great. You should patent it.
Great video!! what are you using attached to the tractor bucket? did you make that yourselves? If so id like to see it close up and see what you did! im planning on using a tractor to raise one myself.
S1 EP15 should tell you what you want to know
@@SmokyMountainOutpost awesome thanks for the reply!
great
nice job , pal.
Thank you
хорошая работа !!!
Greetings from Hungary! Fantastic job! Thanks for sharing! Learn a lot. Hope I'll use it soon :-)
Hello Levente,
My best friend here is from Hungary. He is a fireman, and I trained him to be a paramedic. Glad you like the channel. Have a great week...
Looks grand good job
Hi from Western Australia, I am a new subscriber and have just found your channel, very informative and enjoyable
Hey, Karen! Welcome! We are so glad that you found our channel and subscribed. We hope you enjoy the day to day life of my Dad building his cabin and just enjoying life as he recently retired. We have another channel, Outpost Review, that just started a week ago. It is more talking and reviews on different things we use. We hope you will check it out. Take care and be blessed! -Jennifer
Also, we go live about once a month. It gives us time to interact with subscribers and for you all to ask questions. Our next live will be this Saturday at 7pm ET. We hope you join us!
Vare good S.
Thank you
I like your modified extension on the tractor..
Thanks. It sure came in handy and we couldn’t have built the cabin frame without it.
A-1 guys. Never seen this done before. Very interesting. Thanks. Look forward to your next video.
Спасибо из России!
Great job 👍
Incredible build! You're doing amazing work. At 7:45 I have a question: Can you really put a wooden post like that directly onto the concrete? Don't you need a moisture barrier of some sort so the wood doesn't soak up water from the concrete? Especially the exposed fiber of the end of the post? Thank you for the video and hopefully you, or somebody else, can answer my question.
Cheers :)
I corrected that in a later video by jacking the post up and putting aluminum underneath because it will last longer than regular carbon metal.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost Alright, that explains it. Again, thank you for sharing your work!
I’m curious as to why you only use one tie down bracket at the base of each post? You could easily add a second one on the opposite side using the same horizontal threaded rod as guide for placing it and then use the same threaded rod to fasten both tie downs
No reason really. Good idea but here it wouldn’t be needed. If we were in the plains area, probably would have.
saludos desde el salvador greeting from el salvador I 've recently done a cabin in front on my house with metal but any way I 've got many ideas from your good job
I would like to know how you designed the lift on the loader and bucket
Looking great!
I love this work 👍❤👍
Thank you
Amazing
Thank you
Just found you. Awesome project. Something like what I plan to do. Super awesome trick with the router!
Thank you. Stay tuned for much more.
I must admit how much I admire your skills..and the process is somewhat romantic I guess in wood folklore..but with the amount of time and labor I just wonder why?
Because it’s fun and unusual. Labor not an issue. Hard work is good for the soul.
Great work and thanks for sharing. I can’t tell but are those timbers 6x6 or 8x8?
Hey there, it’s actually 7x7’s and 7x10’s that we used. The 7x10’s were used around the bottom, everything else was 7x7.
Enjoy watching!
Thanks Bev
Watching from Long Island. Very nice !!
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@@SmokyMountainOutpost how do I do that??
You really should be draw pegging as there really isnt any force pulling the shoulder of the tenons tight.I can see the structure moving as you are hitting the pegs in. it really should not be moving like it is in some parts of the video. The posts should have slate under them so the moister does not wick up and the anchors should go at least twice as far up the post. the post bottom will rot out and that bolt wont do anything. These are small things but all really important. But the biggest issue is the lack of draw pegging and using tiny dowel instead of big tapered split oak pegs to draw the joints tight. This method is used so that in the future if the building moves at all you can just tighten it back up with a few taps on the pegs as they are tapered.
Hey, Thanks for your comment. I have already ordered aluminum plates to go under the post. They were treated but I have wondered. Going to jack it up a little and will take care of that. I have watched numerous videos on your channel and have loved them all. Thanks for sharing your life and your thoughts.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost Great, that will make those post last much longer as wood hates to sit on concrete even durable wood. I always put wood on none wicking stones or slate.
Glad you enjoy the videos :) look in to draw pegging as it would make the structure 10x stronger and when all the wood dries and moves you have the ability to tighten it back up.
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@@KrisHarbour -- The tapered 'draw pegging' sounds KEY. Is that why some post and beamers leave the pegs protruding out of the beam an inch or so 'proud' instead of cutting them off flush -- so they can pound them in more when things get loose in the future to tighten it all up? Also -- does the peg oak matter (white oak, red oak -- I guess whatever oak you have?) Other hardwoods okay for the pegs too...? I'm going to build one of these buildings eventually -- looking for every tip I can get. Love it!
Johnny Rockets yep, that’s it. Leave them long and tapered so later on if anything moves you can tighten it back up again. It’s green timber so it will move a lot so it’s quite a key design feature.
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I would like a set of plans on ur jig for the router set up please
Nice work guys
I am a new subscriber. Interesting build. Looking forward to seeing your progress. Thanks for sharing your journey.
Nice work watching from Australia ❤️❤️❤️
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ажойиб иш
Really like the fact that using jigs and router to speed up the process
Hello, new fan of yours. I love timber framing. I think it's majestic and beautiful. Will follow you from now on.
Welcome
I like your work of building a cabin
cool channel. just found it.
Stay tuned for much more...
Question; I know that burning will preserve the wood when going in earth, just wondering why the char on the upper parts, is there a secret I should know about?
It just helps to preserve the wood longer in general. -Jennifer
so nice me from iraq
Good work I have ever seen this before thank you so much for making this video good luck with best regards God bless you and your family Ameen
Thank you so much for your reply
This looks so fun. Thank you very much for filming your hard work. Are those pins/dowels hardwood?
Yes
좋네요...good !
Thank you
little by little you will get there
Shouldn't there be a standoff between the post and concrete per code?
Thanks for the comment. Not really sure what you mean by a standoff. If you’re making reference to material or something separating the concrete from the post, yes you are correct. This is my first timber frame and I learned later that they would could work moisture from the concrete. So many videos later I actually took a jack jacked up each post and put aluminum plates under the post.
I've made similar hold dows as you. Buckeye state we have to have the hold down plus a 1" metal or plastic between the post bottom and concrete. Why I'm not sure...?? but code here. Prior to knowing that and still today but only at my own house, I just tar the end grain of the post. Good videos keep them coming.
Love to be able to create my on home in the mountains but no family t o help.i wood coop with someone if they're all alone and we was close neighbors any taker are you guys in Tennessee
Just found your site. Looks like you are building with poplar logs correct? Would like to come back to N.C. at the old family place and build this type of cabin. Looking good.
Welcome,
Yes they are poplar. I have an abundance of them, and they work up fairly easy. Hope you enjoy the channel.
❤after you drill and cut off, you will drive your pegs with extra shine on the last few strikes
Почему не взять 1кг кувалду для забивки нагелей? (Она не так сильно разбивает торец нагеля.)
10:17 Где гидроизоляция от бетона? Может быть стойка с пропиткой?😕
16:55 18:05 21:47 Почему не убран обзол (Остатки коры) на стойке? Жуков разводите?
17:44 Так это сарай! Тогда всё понятно...
Can you show or tell how you cut those large square mortises? Did you use a chisel to square them as with shallower mortises?
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Looking good! Curious as to why no barrier (metal) underneath the posts? Moisture from concrete is going to take affect posts unless that wood is rot resistant species.
I plan on a tar coating on post, bracket and around the bottom of the footer. The outside also will have a rock wall from footer to floor level.
Us old timey carpenters would just put part of an asphalt shingle under any post coming into contact with concrete. They're cheap, last forever, and won't rust away like metal.
@@bruceparks3124 Thanks for the tip! I'm going to try that!
There is a chemical wood Preservative that is bottle type 1inch in diameter used in electricity pylons.
Just drill a hole , insert it, and then put the wood plug that will break it.
are u guys burning the lumber with torch?
I was looking into learning how to frame properly, I'm hoping to be able to build my own house. I've recently discovered this method of framing and it seems to be the most solid way of doing things. Comparatively, would you say that fewer pieces of lumber are used overall?
Welcome. Well, it depends on how you build it. I plan on building 2x4 walls (standard) between the posts you see in the video. Since the post are 7x7 you will be able to still see the frame. This is akin to German style architecture (exposed beam). If you use horizontal framing to place say, board and Baton siding (barn style), then yes. Some have used 2in styrofoam panels and placed sheet rock over that. There is a lot less “stick framing involved there. Also, the average double headers over doors and such are eliminated with the beam structure. You can google comparisons on timber and stick framing to see all the pros vs and con that may exist. I will tell you it takes longer, but is “bullet proof”, lol.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost I'll take the time, the results will be worth the attention. Stick framing just doesn't have this kind of stability. I'm looking to build in Oklahoma, so tornadoes can always be a possibility.
I'm really enjoying your channel, I'm paying attention to everything. Y'all take care and stay safe out there
I lived in West Texas for ten years and know what you mean. I think you would have fun building it, have a larger skill set when finished and have a much better home structure wise.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost I lived in Midland for a time, wind advisories were definitely common. The more I learn on this, the more I want to do with it. Thanks for the encouragement!
I’m building 2x4 partitions between posts as well to use for interior room layout and for exterior window and door supporting much more used to stick framing so it’s also an easy way I already know how to run utilities through the walls and just drywall over it. But the posts will still be exposed inside to retain the rustic and wholesome look.
Does the top of the lumber being black mean it’s treated or is that fireproofing or something?
I burned it to waterproof it and helps with bugs
Can u tell me how you attached the metal lift on the front of your tractor bucket. It looks pretty sturdy. I made one with a flat blank from Titan using with single pole. I am planning to use it to lift some trusses in about a month, the the double looks better. I can make anything out of metal and have my own Norwood sawmill. Thanks
I did a video on that particular thing. Check it out and let me know if you have any questions.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost I looked for it and found it. Thanks. I plan to do a smaller timber frame when I get some time, I milled some of the timber already. Just saw your videos, great stuff, I bought a Norwood 3 years ago. Hd 36 its great and does a very good job, I made wheels and the levelers to get it off the ground. I used the mill for my ship lap and flooring inside. I live near you and I could not use the wood for structure since it was not stamped, but using it for the rustic look. Thanks again.
@@joegarage6132 YOU COULD USE IT I THINK, BUT THEY WOULD NEVER ALLOW YOU TO HOOK UP TO PUBLIC UTILITIES. THATS WHY I LIKE UNORGANIZED TOWNSHIPS. IF THEY DON'T HELP PAY MORTGAGE AND HELP BUILD IT, I FIGURE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SAY SO. I BUILD ANOTHER, CONVENTIONAL STYLE OUT OF MILLED LUMBER AND IT SOLD FOR 225,000 AND WAS INSPECTED WITHOUT FLAW. THEY JUST WANT A CUT SOMEWHERE AND STAMPED FOR RESALE PURPOSE. BUT THIS ONE ISN'T BEING SOLD, LOL.
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I watched video. But for pins to be tight you would not put tenon inside the mortise, first drill a hole on side of mortise, then insert tenon, then make a pin that slides in hole easily, then cut head of the nail and hammer that few millimeter off center of the pin. Then insert the tenon and put the pin with the nail and hammer to make a mark in tenon. remove tenon and drill the hole. When you put tenon inside take new pin and sharpen it a bit so it could pass the off-center hole in tenon - when you hammer it pin will pull the tenon into mortise tight.
Understood. I am familiar with offsetting the holes 1/16 in. To draw the tenon. However the wood I used was green and my thoughts were that the word will shrink around the pins that I bought from the hardware which are dried and will tighten up on the pin anyway keeping it in place And saving me a whole lot of extra work. I also used timber screws for added strength and peace of mind
What size dowel and did you make them or purchase them?
5/8
Bought
Hi guys, I´ve a question. Why the carbonizes wood log is up side? is it just aesthetical? shouldn´t be shou sugi ban on the ground? nice work anyway.
That were all finally burned if you watch all the videos.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost thank you so much for your answer! I´ll watch it. I´m new on your channel. hugs from Brazil!
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Blackbirds ... ??
Or Starlings ... perhaps ??
Nope, blackbirds. Recognize the sound. I see them every fall, they're migrating.
Please, tell me why don't you use the waterproofing course under the timber column?
I’ve ordered aluminum plating for them. I will jack them up a little and slide underneath.
It will be interesting to see!
Is that creosote you're using on the timbers for ground contact?
I burned them
Is timber framing more expensive to get done than stick frame?
Hi Danielle,
Yes timber framing will cost more due to the material and skill to put it together. If it was precut, you could do it yourself if you had the means to move the material like we have done and save a lot of expense.
збс строят ,никакой гидроизоляции бруса от фундамента
Howdy. What is the size of the building? Length by width? And how big are your bents?
39 x 26 (bents are 13’ x 8’ respectively). They include a 3’ crawl space below. Post are 11’ tall.
@@SmokyMountainOutpost Good size building. Thank you sir.
You my friend need an impact wrench
I have one, but didn’t need it for this job because the auger pulls its way through.