A fevorite band of mine - Split Enz. There's the more art pop era of the Phil Judd years up to Dizrythmia (1977), and then from Frenzy (1979) onwards with the addition of the 2nd Finn brother - Neil.
Scorpions - Lonesome Crow Judas Priest - Rocka Rolla Genesis - From Genesis To Revelation R.E.O. Speedwagon - self titled debut Styx - Styx I Pantera - Metal Magic Journey - Journey Deep Purple - Shades Of Deep Purple Pink Floyd - Piper... Alice Cooper - Pretties For You UFO - UFO 1 and 2 Moody Blues - Magnificent Moodies
The Cult with their goth debut Dreamtime. Depeche Mode drastically changed after the first album Speak and Spell with Vince Clarke as band leader (never liked it but many people still love this era). you can also make a case for the Clash, who left their punk roots after the second album Give em enough Rope.
I like the first Yes album and the first Renaissance very much. These are two masterpieces and belong to my all time favorites. I saw the Yes album performed in 1969 on Belgian television and I immedately became a fan. The playing on the Renaissance album is really fantastic and show the great musicianship of the performers. Do not forget the first albums of Canned Heat and Steppenwolf
Ministry comes to mind, The Police (Outlandos d'Amour), Queen (I, II), G'N"R (Appetite), David Lee Roth (Crazy from the Heat), Michael Bolton (BlackJack), Bon Jovi (Bon Jovi/7800 Fahrenheit) etc. Some great picks by all on this one!
@@Drumdude74 Queen and Guns‘n Roses did not really change drastically after their first album/s. The first one of each band was rather the blueprint for the band concept.
@@wernermoritz882 I might agree a little with Queen but they got much poppier as the albums progressed after those first two, with some exceptions of course but GNR never sounded the same again really, that first album was gritty as fuck, the next couple, not so much. I enjoy those albums but there was a definite change after Appetite/Lies era.
YAS! I often listened to them with early Ultravox and Tubeway Army, three facets of early glam punk hybrids that went well together before they all went synthpop.
I actually hear a lot of traces of later Yes on the first two Yes albums. On the debut Harold Land and Survival show a lot of signs of Yes' 70's direction. On Time and a Word, Then is almost like a proto version of the type of riffing that shows up again on Drama. You can even argue that Looking Around and Sweet Dreams are like 60's Psych tinged Pop Rock versions of the kind of style Yes got into in the 80's.
@ Jeff, Neal Schon did a tour playing the older Journey tracks. Check out the Journey through Time DVD. The set opens with I'm Gonna Leave You, Look Into the Future, & Kohoutek.
Faith No More the Chuck Mosley years I like Introduce Yourself (major label debut). It’s got the reworked We Care A Lot. The heavy guitars and drums are there but with Mike Patton they were able up their game. Considerably.
Supertramp's second album, " Indelibly Stamped "(which is more known for its terrible album cover). You can hear bits and pieces of what the band was going to become, but is still different, and is pretty good.
I think without Martin talking about punk rock every time, this genre would be dead and gone on this channel 'cause it seems to me no one else really cares for it, haha.
Martin should play the other Chameleons records more, but I appreciate that he brings up cool post-punk like Magazine, or real solid punk like Stiff Little FIngers. I'm glad he does, cuz as much as I like Floyd and Yes, this channel would be just Classic Rewind for YOuTube, instead of introducing others to new sounds.
As a new listener who comes from being a sea of tranquility fan, I find this conversation fascinating I agree totally with your two panelists because I’m an old progressive rock guy in my 60s and I absolutely love the first two albums and time in a word and I go on and I love all of their stuff up through going for the one, but there’s something so special about hearing yes still evolving by doing guys that they admire Stills the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel and I think it’s fascinating. Also, your other panelist cited the original genesis album after I became a genesis fan and I saw them at my college in 1973 performing selling England by the pound and a couple cuts from foxtrot and nursery crimes I was smitten fan Very few people in American knew of Genesis at that time, but I absolutely fell in love with them so later I went back and I bought that first album in the beginning from General Genesis to revelation, and even though it’s nothing like the great classic albums, we love I absolutely loved it. I heard elements of Rolling Stones and Moody blues and Peter Gabriel’s Gritty vocals. I just loved it so I know this is a long post sorry guys especially for a newbie on your channel, please forgive me but you do great work and I will be listening and watching Grant and Martin. I know you guys are ready through Pete and I love you. I love you all. Take care 872.
Sorry guys I was siding yes and my microphone typist did not put the group. Yes in there just to clarify. I hope there aren’t too many other typos. Laugh out loud rock on Brothers!
Of more recent years a band still not recognized enough, but if they are never because of their first album which is my favorite. Aetherial by Oceans of Slumber. Love them with Cammie as well, but that first one holds to me the best songs and a male screamer to match the music.
in chronological order: the Mothers of Invention - Freak Out! | I don't hear a lot of Zappa fans talk about the debut with reverence but it's one of my favs Van Der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other | similar to labelmates Genesis, they had a completely ignored debut and second album, but any album that has Darkness (11/11) is great to me Be Bop Deluxe - Axe Victim | the first record is way more glam than art rock, but it's the one I like the most Blondie - s/t | overlooked gem in their catalogue that goes full 60s girl group and does it well Dead Can Dance - s/t | before they took on medieval and world music influences they were a pretty rockin' goth band
Grant, I really think you should give 'In Raibows' another chance.... It stands shoulder to shoulder with 'OK computer' and 'Kid A'. Obviously, 'The Bends' is also excelent...
I second those first two XTC albums are underrated. Queensryche played their 1983 EP and The Warning at Houston's Hell's Heroes fest earlier this year and it sounded fantastic. It's interesting, audiences who grew up with Kid A often rate In Rainbows as a fave. I really like A Moon Shaped Pool because it goes into psych prog territory. Martin going off the rails again just so he can talk about The Saints, lol. Speaking of them, I've been trying to find Chris Bailey's solo albums - Demons (1991), Savage Entertainment (1992), and 54 Days at Sea (1993). If anyone has them digitally and wants to trade, hit me up!
The Cure’s debut album Three Imaginary Boys sounds quite different to anything thereafter. In America the album was substituted with Boys Don’t Cry, which is a better album.
The early April Wine albums are an odd mixture of Henman folk,Goodwyn pop and Clench rock... Electric Jewels to me is just as solid as Stand Back,which did so phenomenally well in Canada..
The Nazareth debut sounds like Jeff Beck and Black Sabbath in a head on collision..Just a few years later they had a great 4 album run from Razamanaz - Hair Of The Dog.
The first 3 INXS albums come to mind. The 1980 s/t album more so. It had a saxophone and many of the songs were centered around that. It had like a new wave/ska hybrid feel. Wayyyyyy different than the style they would do on Kick. The next two albums went in more of a dark wave direction. The saxophone was still there but scaled back somewhat. The 3rd album was way different than the first one. Songs like The one thing and Don’t change and To look at you were more reminiscent of The Cure. I’m less familiar with the second album but that one from what I’ve heard of it leaned more towards the 3rd album (Shabooh Shoobah). By Kick they were an ENTIRELY different band!!!
I agree with Jeff. Bands are digging deep in their catalogs due to different reasons I believe; fan service, exhaustion, or just that idea that if it's obscure, old and unknown it is good (which, well..)
The rappers Necro and Ill Bill had a thrash band when they were teenagers in like 89 called Injustice its surprisingly good in an late 80s sepultura vibe
Another good example are Beastie Boys who were originally formed as an experimental hardcore punk band The Young Aborigines, and shortly after that made a full transition to hip hop.
A fevorite band of mine - Split Enz. There's the more art pop era of the Phil Judd years up to Dizrythmia (1977), and then from Frenzy (1979) onwards with the addition of the 2nd Finn brother - Neil.
Scorpions - Lonesome Crow
Judas Priest - Rocka Rolla
Genesis - From Genesis To Revelation
R.E.O. Speedwagon - self titled debut
Styx - Styx I
Pantera - Metal Magic
Journey - Journey
Deep Purple - Shades Of Deep Purple
Pink Floyd - Piper...
Alice Cooper - Pretties For You
UFO - UFO 1 and 2
Moody Blues - Magnificent Moodies
Suicidal Tendencies, Husker Du, The Replacements. All come to mind.
Interesting...I disagree on the Mats...I think they slowly evolved. But I can see where you are coming from!
Would dig more content on the Punk Post Punk New Wave era
I'm with ya... we will try and work more Punk Post Punk New Wave into oncoming shows
I had this three hour discussion with Martin about baroque existentialism v. neo realism ..and then we listened to the Rocky IV soundtrack ...
The Cult with their goth debut Dreamtime. Depeche Mode drastically changed after the first album Speak and Spell with Vince Clarke as band leader (never liked it but many people still love this era). you can also make a case for the Clash, who left their punk roots after the second album Give em enough Rope.
I like the first Yes album and the first Renaissance very much. These are two masterpieces and belong to my all time favorites. I saw the Yes album performed in 1969 on Belgian television and I immedately became a fan. The playing on the Renaissance album is really fantastic and show the great musicianship of the performers. Do not forget the first albums of Canned Heat and Steppenwolf
The first two Human League albums are bonkers.
Ministry comes to mind, The Police (Outlandos d'Amour), Queen (I, II), G'N"R (Appetite), David Lee Roth (Crazy from the Heat), Michael Bolton (BlackJack), Bon Jovi (Bon Jovi/7800 Fahrenheit) etc. Some great picks by all on this one!
@@Drumdude74 Queen and Guns‘n Roses did not really change drastically after their first album/s. The first one of each band was rather the blueprint for the band concept.
@@wernermoritz882 I might agree a little with Queen but they got much poppier as the albums progressed after those first two, with some exceptions of course but GNR never sounded the same again really, that first album was gritty as fuck, the next couple, not so much. I enjoy those albums but there was a definite change after Appetite/Lies era.
The first and 3rd albums by Frost with Dick Wagner are very strong throughout
Frost Music?😀❤️🎼
not exactly weird, but I'm thinking here of the first two Japan albums, Adolescent Sex & Obscure Alternatives
YAS! I often listened to them with early Ultravox and Tubeway Army, three facets of early glam punk hybrids that went well together before they all went synthpop.
@@Fastnbulbous1969 yes john foxx era ultravox much better,tubeway armys debut was a cult fave,actually a band before gary numan got all the attention
I was thrilled to hear Phil pick UFO. Their first two albums were the first to come to mind.
I actually hear a lot of traces of later Yes on the first two Yes albums. On the debut Harold Land and Survival show a lot of signs of Yes' 70's direction. On Time and a Word, Then is almost like a proto version of the type of riffing that shows up again on Drama. You can even argue that Looking Around and Sweet Dreams are like 60's Psych tinged Pop Rock versions of the kind of style Yes got into in the 80's.
well...that cover has me running for the exit sign
Love early Queensryche
@ Jeff, Neal Schon did a tour playing the older Journey tracks. Check out the Journey through Time DVD.
The set opens with I'm Gonna Leave You, Look Into the Future, & Kohoutek.
Faith No More the Chuck Mosley years I like Introduce Yourself (major label debut). It’s got the reworked We Care A Lot. The heavy guitars and drums are there but with Mike Patton they were able up their game. Considerably.
Supertramp's second album, " Indelibly Stamped "(which is more known for its terrible album cover). You can hear bits and pieces of what the band was going to become, but is still different, and is pretty good.
Think you mean its "terrific album cover" 😊
@@DrOz-007 no, other than the boobs, it is terrible
I think without Martin talking about punk rock every time, this genre would be dead and gone on this channel 'cause it seems to me no one else really cares for it, haha.
I care. And I think Jamie also likes punk. But otherwise true, shout out to Martin for that!
Martin should play the other Chameleons records more, but I appreciate that he brings up cool post-punk like Magazine, or real solid punk like Stiff Little FIngers. I'm glad he does, cuz as much as I like Floyd and Yes, this channel would be just Classic Rewind for YOuTube, instead of introducing others to new sounds.
I'm going to try push to talk Punk Post Punk/New Wave more. It needs to be discussed!
Thanks for speaking for all of us, and telling what we all care about. PS you're wrong
Rush- S/ T
Nazareth- S/ T
I Am The Night- Pantera
Breaker- Accept
On Through The Night- Def Leppard
As a new listener who comes from being a sea of tranquility fan, I find this conversation fascinating I agree totally with your two panelists because I’m an old progressive rock guy in my 60s and I absolutely love the first two albums and time in a word and I go on and I love all of their stuff up through going for the one, but there’s something so special about hearing yes still evolving by doing guys that they admire Stills the Beatles and Simon and Garfunkel and I think it’s fascinating. Also, your other panelist cited the original genesis album after I became a genesis fan and I saw them at my college in 1973 performing selling England by the pound and a couple cuts from foxtrot and nursery crimes I was smitten fan Very few people in American knew of Genesis at that time, but I absolutely fell in love with them so later I went back and I bought that first album in the beginning from General Genesis to revelation, and even though it’s nothing like the great classic albums, we love I absolutely loved it. I heard elements of Rolling Stones and Moody blues and Peter Gabriel’s Gritty vocals. I just loved it so I know this is a long post sorry guys especially for a newbie on your channel, please forgive me but you do great work and I will be listening and watching Grant and Martin. I know you guys are ready through Pete and I love you. I love you all. Take care 872.
Sorry guys I was siding yes and my microphone typist did not put the group. Yes in there just to clarify. I hope there aren’t too many other typos. Laugh out loud rock on Brothers!
How about Dan Hartman’s first band ( The Legends)?😀❤️🎼
Of more recent years a band still not recognized enough, but if they are never because of their first album which is my favorite. Aetherial by Oceans of Slumber. Love them with Cammie as well, but that first one holds to me the best songs and a male screamer to match the music.
I'll go Ministry... the first 2 albums are 80s dance music... really nothing like the lovable chaos that ensued!😎
in chronological order:
the Mothers of Invention - Freak Out! | I don't hear a lot of Zappa fans talk about the debut with reverence but it's one of my favs
Van Der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other | similar to labelmates Genesis, they had a completely ignored debut and second album, but any album that has Darkness (11/11) is great to me
Be Bop Deluxe - Axe Victim | the first record is way more glam than art rock, but it's the one I like the most
Blondie - s/t | overlooked gem in their catalogue that goes full 60s girl group and does it well
Dead Can Dance - s/t | before they took on medieval and world music influences they were a pretty rockin' goth band
Grant, I really think you should give 'In Raibows' another chance.... It stands shoulder to shoulder with 'OK computer' and 'Kid A'. Obviously, 'The Bends' is also excelent...
I don't have an issue with Rainbows at all, but I agree, I should pull it out an listen again
I second those first two XTC albums are underrated. Queensryche played their 1983 EP and The Warning at Houston's Hell's Heroes fest earlier this year and it sounded fantastic. It's interesting, audiences who grew up with Kid A often rate In Rainbows as a fave. I really like A Moon Shaped Pool because it goes into psych prog territory.
Martin going off the rails again just so he can talk about The Saints, lol. Speaking of them, I've been trying to find Chris Bailey's solo albums - Demons (1991), Savage Entertainment (1992), and 54 Days at Sea (1993). If anyone has them digitally and wants to trade, hit me up!
Pink Floyd..Piper At the Gates of Dawn!!!!! So wonderfully weird and amazing, plants the seeds of greatness 🤘🤘🤘🤘
The Cure’s debut album Three Imaginary Boys sounds quite different to anything thereafter.
In America the album was substituted with Boys Don’t Cry, which is a better album.
The early April Wine albums are an odd mixture of Henman folk,Goodwyn pop and Clench rock... Electric Jewels to me is just as solid as Stand Back,which did so phenomenally well in Canada..
The Nazareth debut sounds like Jeff Beck and Black Sabbath in a head on collision..Just a few years later they had a great 4 album run from Razamanaz - Hair Of The Dog.
Hey Grant I love Radiohead, I consider them Prog/Experimental
I consider them more experimental than prog, then again prog encompasses a lot of things
Bowie's first album was sort of an attempt at commercial pop. But weird. The Laughing Gnome wtf also Bowie was a mime
agreed on early journey,prefer to perry era
Fleetwood mac the Beatles we watched them grow from album. To album the best.
What's up with the Aviary video? Comes up in search, but says unavailable when I click.
RUclips pulled the plug and I had to edit the video into 3 episodes. it's over on my channel...Grant's Rock Warehaus
Eloy and Cat Stevens for sure.
Lucifer's Friends' first album doomy and heavy..latter ones more progressive/jazzy.
accept debut,prefer to balls to the wall sound
Sorry I wanted to also say chicago
ultravox ha ha ha,i nuch prefer john foxx era ultravox to the midge ure version
The first 3 INXS albums come to mind. The 1980 s/t album more so. It had a saxophone and many of the songs were centered around that. It had like a new wave/ska hybrid feel. Wayyyyyy different than the style they would do on Kick. The next two albums went in more of a dark wave direction. The saxophone was still there but scaled back somewhat. The 3rd album was way different than the first one. Songs like The one thing and Don’t change and To look at you were more reminiscent of The Cure. I’m less familiar with the second album but that one from what I’ve heard of it leaned more towards the 3rd album (Shabooh Shoobah). By Kick they were an ENTIRELY different band!!!
King Crimson was always a band in translation.
Transition?
@@DrOz-007 it seems like members were in constant charge, and their music was to.
Except it's not literally, Martin.
None of your semantical references are.
status quo dog of 2 heads
I agree with Jeff. Bands are digging deep in their catalogs due to different reasons I believe; fan service, exhaustion, or just that idea that if it's obscure, old and unknown it is good (which, well..)
Scorps -speedys Coming
The rappers Necro and Ill Bill had a thrash band when they were teenagers in like 89 called Injustice its surprisingly good in an late 80s sepultura vibe
I didn't know that, although I'm aware of their appreciation of heavy metal music. Have they ever released anything from those early days?
Another good example are Beastie Boys who were originally formed as an experimental hardcore punk band The Young Aborigines, and shortly after that made a full transition to hip hop.
@@ffghfdsgfgdgsfhgsf yes theres an ep on youtube
Love for early Purple, Yes and UFO. Great!!