Great topic!! Here's my list with some honorable mentions Out Of The Cellar - RATT Long Cold Winter - Cinderella Shout At The Devil - Mötley Crüe The Great Radio Controversy - Tesla W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P. Honorable Mentions Twice Shy - Great White Dancin' On Coals - Bang Tango The Lizard - Saigon Kick Pull - Winger Poison - Flesh 'N' Blood Warrant - Cherry Pie
Night Songs- Cinderella Star Spangled Fist Fight- Kickin Valentina Non Stop Rock n Roll- Wig Wam Look What The Cat Dragged In- Poison Cocked And Loaded- LA Guns HM: Britny Fox- S/ T Blow My Fuse- Kix Love+War- Lillian Axe
Great talk and choices. Van Halen- Van Halen ( they invented the look and sound) Ratt - Cellar Crue - Devil (and Too Fast for Love) W.A.S.P- debut Great White- Once Bitten (and the debut) Twisted Sister- Under the Blade Quiet Riot- Metal Health Kiss - Lick it Up Dokken- Tooth and Nail Leppard- Pyromania (and of course High n Dry but it's more NWOBHM) Stryper- To Hell with the Devil Cinderella- Night Songs Poison- Cat Dragged In Skid Row debut Winger - debut Bon jovi- Slippery Warrant- Cherry Pie (minus the title track) Whitesnake- 87 Kix - Midnight Dynamite White Lion- Pride So many great albums And yes, Y&T Contagious! That title track! And Warrant- Dog Eat Dog 🤘🏼 and Winger Pull.
05) Kiss - Asylum 04) Aldo Nova - self titled debut 03) Vinnie Vincent - All Systems Go (I'm not a huge Slaughter fan but this one rips) 02) Kix - Reblown Fuse (So much better than the original production) 01) Ratt - Out of the Cellar Honorable Mention: McQueen Street - self titled debut
1. Out Of The Cellar - RATT 2. Under Lock And Key - Dokken 3. Shout At The Devil - Motley Crue 4. Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi 5. Open Up And Say Ahh - Poison
Favorite Hair Metal Albums: 1. Hysteria - Def Leppard 2. Whitesnake - Whitesnake '87 3. Van Halen - 5150 4. Winger - Debut 5. Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood Honorable Mentions: 1. In the Heart of the Young - Winger 2. Pyromania - Def Leppard
There are some bands that are hair bands and some that just made hair metal records. Bands that preceeded Hair but certainly made hair metal records... Kiss and Def Leppard come to mind.
Great show. My Top Hair Metal Albums (Glam N‘ Sleaze only): 01. Ratt - Out Of The Cellar 02. Mötley Crüe - Shout At The Devil 03. Skid Row - Slave To The Grind 04. Dangerous Toys - Dangerous Toys 05. Guns N‘ Roses - Appetite For Destruction HM: 06. L.A. Guns - L.A. Guns 07. Cinderella - Night Songs 08. Vain - No Respect 09. Warrant - Cherry Pie 10. Tigertailz - Bezerk
The Faster Pussycat debut was as good as Gnr's Appetite for Destruction I think. "Babble on" or "Babylon", "Bathroom Wall" and "Cathouse" were songs that should of been classic radio hits. Dangerous Toys debut was a great rock album. No ballads, filthy and full of melodic hard rock.
Pretty Maids- Jump The Gun Southgang- Tainted Angel Saints And Sinners- s/t Wildside- Under The Influence Crashdiet- Rest In Sleaze All worth a mention.
1 Vinnie Vincent Invasion - s/t 2) Vain - No Respect 3) Bon Jovi - New Jersey 4) Danger Danger - Screw It 5Dokken - Back For The Attack 5) KISS - Lick It Up 6) Babylon AD - s/t 7) WASP - s/t 8) Warrant - DRFSR 9) RATT - Detonator 10) Motley Crue - Dr Feelgood
Great choices all round. Nice to see Wildside, Spreadeagle, Juliet and Vain mentioned a few times in the comments. My own top 5 would include Baton Rouge and Bangalore Choir.
1. Danger Danger - Danger Danger 2. Poison - Open Up And Say…Ahh! 3. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet 4. Whitesnake - Whitesnake 5. Slaughter - Stick It To Ya Honorary Mentions: Warrant - Cherry Pie, Cinderella - Long Cold Winter, Invasion - Invasion 2, Great White - Hooked, Babylon A.D. - Babylon A.D., Laos - We Want It
First 2 Motley Crue albums and Warrant - Cherry Pie. Cherry Pie and especially Uncle Tom's Cabin are great songs. RIP Jani Lane. Ratt - Out Of The Cellar and Skid Row - Skid Row as well.
I just saw Dokken two nights ago. Me and Don were staying at the same hotel. He was super nice and took a pic with me. That Back For the Attack guitar tone is my favorite of all time.
1. Whitesnake 1987 2. Out Of The Cellar - Ratt 3. Too Fast For Love - Motley Crue 4. Metal Health - Quiet Riot 5. Under Lock and Key - Dokken HM Skid Row - Skid Row 7800 Fahrenheit - Bon Jovi Pride - White Lion Long Cold Winter - Cinderella Stick It To Ya - Slaughter Winger(1988) Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinkin Rich - Warrant
I love this music genre my top 10 are 10 whitesnake 1987 9 blue murder 8 black n blue debut 7 Ozzy Osborn the ultimate sin 6 Ted Nugent penetrator 5 deff leopard pyromania 4 vandiburg band debut 3 white lion 1987 wait 2 jetboy dammed nation 1 ratt out of the cellar
I remember around 1989 1990 US radio was playing shit we hadnt got yet in 🇨🇦 i remember hearing youth gone wild and where the down boys go and thinkn wow this is US metal !!!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Great topic! I think I'd go with these five: Out of the Cellar - Ratt (1984) Stick It To Ya - Slaughter (1988) Operation Mindcrime - Queensryche (1988) Pride - White Lion (1987) S/T - Whitesnake (1987) Others (Honorable Mentions): The Great Radio Controversy - Tesla (1989) S/T - Kingdom Come (1988) Not sure if these belong in the "hair metal" category, as it seems something that came up in the mid to late 80s, but.... Midnight Madness - Night Ranger (1983) Metal Health - Quiet Riot (1983) S/T - Badlands (1989) --- Don't know if they quite fit in the "hair metal" category or not, but incredible band.
Sorry about that. After the dishes, l put the show on my earbuds and vacuumed. It’s Cretinous Cretin’s CHORE DAY! At any rate, without further ado, here are my choices: 5. Cinderella ~ Long Cold Winter 4. Tesla - The Great Radio Controversy 3. Extreme ~ III Sides to Every Story 2. Badlands ~ Badlands 1. Blue Murder ~ Blue Murder. ~ Davey Cretin, from Cretin Classics.
Great overview of a genre which is not treated with a whole lot of respect these days (and to be honest, not all of it is undeserved). Anyway, my favorites which I keep coming back to (guilty pleasures?) are: Ratt - Out of the Cellar Ratt - Invasion of Your Privacy (which I think I actually like more than OOTC) Dokken - Tooth & Nail As a sleeper I would nominate Night Ranger's "Big Life". Is Night Ranger considered a hair metal band? I think so. My favorite Def Leppard album is (of course) "Pyromania", and I consider them a part of the Hair Metal scene around then.
I’m gonna go with lesser known bands instead of the obvious picks. 1. Xenon - America’s New Design 2. Prophet - Cycle of the Moon 3. Ivory Tower - Heart of the City (the NJ band from the 80’s not the later prog metal band) 4. Saraya - Saraya (I’ll also tie it with their follow up When The Blackbird Sings) 5. TNT - Tell No Tails (ok these guys are a bit more known but they are still underrated IMO)
Excellent topic - made go back and listen to some of this stuff and realise, in general, I can't stand the majority of this 'strand' of music. I didn't then and don't now. I think the underlying reason for me is/was 'the smell of the PR/Marketing departments' all over the releases. 'Out Of The Cellar' one of the exceptions (one of the only ones I bought at the time).
Cinderella had some decent tracks - I never bought into the whole GNR thing at the time either / and still don't. (Slash is a top bloke notwithstanding)
Dave, W.A.S.P. had a decent debut (I don't consider it Hair Metal but, I know they've somehow managed to get lumped in with the genre over the years) I really didn't like too much of the rest of their catalog. I guess I expected them to be a Heavy Metal band but, they got more commercial. No way I'd consider Queensryche Hair Metal. Especially The Warning! If you wanted to make a case that Rage For Order fits the genre you'd get less push back but, even that is more Progressive Metal than anything else. Icon is also mostly a traditional metal band. I do think the album you chose fits into the genre and I think they tried to make the jump to Hair Metal on that album. I have to check out Q5. I haven't heard of that one yet. Thunder in the East is totally Hair Metal and maybe one of the best examples of a traditional Metal band trying to fit into the Hair Scene.
I wasn't even gonna watch/listen to this video because of the title. IDGAF about the hair bands, which I define more narrowly, as in those bands who didn't play well and sing well, who had lotsa hair (teased or spiked, real and/or fake) and little talent. "Hair band" and "hair metal" are terms of derision, meant to dismiss. In specific instances, using those terms in a very narrow way, the derision and dismissal are deserved (i.e. Motley Crap, Poison and their imitators). When those terms are more broadly used, as some music critics do, it is to dismiss most 1980's hard rock bands. This includes several great bands, whose members did play, sing and write well. Some of them didn't even have outrageous hair, like Mike and Alex from Van Halen, like Rudolf, Matthias and Klaus from Scorpions. If we are defining "hair metal" so as to include bands like Mr. Big, Dokken and Queensryche, those bands go home with all the awards.
Some nice picks guys. Black n' Blue's "Nasty Nasty" was a good one; I'm partial to their self-titled debut, which was their heaviest. Kingdom Come was a good choice. In fact, they don't sound like Zeppelin, seriously, listen to the whole album; and who cares anyway, it didn't hurt album sales at the time. I'd recommend the majority of their vast catalog (yes, vast) as they've done some great stuff that in my opinion surpasses that debut, starting with the follow up "In Your Face." Check out Stone Fury, Lenny Wolf's previous band to KC. The W.A.S.P. album’s long been one of my all-time faves. I didn’t think to include it because to me, the style was too dark, heavy, and aggressive to really fit in with the majority of the “hair” band types. Regardless, they created a one-of-a-kind banger of an record that still stands up today. I'll throw a few of my own out here and steer away from the obvious; I've never been too big on the usual culprit types like Bon Jovi, Poison, Slaughter, etc. save for a song. I think there are some great quality bands that were much better but never caught a break: 1. Shy - "Excess All Areas": Any of their '80s titles, all great, but I'll home in on "Excess All Areas," which was as close as they came to being recognized. 2. Treat - "Scratch and Bite": From Sweden, rivaled the many more popular stateside acts, and had a few excellent releases in the '80s before bowing out and reforming years later--still active today, and still retain their classic style. 3. Praying Mantis - "Time Tells No Lies": NWOBHM fans may remember these guys from the UK, and their association with the likes of Maiden's Dennis Stratton, Paul Di'Anno, and Clive Burr; MSG's Gary Barden also sang for them. They're more Pop Metal or Melodic Rock than their peers, and they do it really really well. And they're still doing it (2022, 2024)! 4. Fastway - "Waiting for the Roar": Focusing specifically on albums, not bands, this was their foray into the Pop Metal scene. Following up their first two classics, like many during the mid-80s they went the way of the pop hook and keyboard to fit in with what was fashionable. This one, blown off by many, just resonated with me. I love the album cover, the keyboards, the hooks. Some things you just can't explain. 5. Tygers of Pan Tang - "The Wreck-Age": I'll simply repeat the same thing I wrote for Fastway above. Their path was nearly identical, though Tygers had a few more albums by then and thus their transition was more seamless. I can imagine most original fans hate this album, but taken for what it is, the songs are catchy, cheesy, and memorable as hell. And has anyone hear their later material in the 2000s? What a comeback! Honorable mentions: 6. Lion - "Dangerous Attraction": Much heavier than many "hair" bands of the time, and featured Dough Aldrich on guitar and one of the best vocalists you've never heard of, Kal Swan. They did a version of the "Transformers" movie theme song back in the day. And it was pretty good. 7. Icon - "Night of the Crime": I can't say much more or much better than Butch Jones from SOT who often sings the praises of this band. Their 1989 release "Right Between the Eyes" was more "hair" metal, but not nearly as good as their first two releases earlier in the decade. 8. King Kobra - "Ready to Strike": Again, listen to Butch. He's on the money with these bands! 9. White Lion - "Fight to Survive": Their debut album was easily their best, in my opinion. Like many starting out, it was heavier and under produced, the band sounded hungrier, and the songs were more intricate and involved before they went mainstream in later years. They still did some decent albums like "Pride," but this first one was simply a step ahead of the rest. 10.Vain - "No Respect": Their first record came out in 1989, too late to catch the tailwind of hair metal popularity even two years earlier, but nonetheless, these guys produced a tremendous record that deserves more recognition. They got some attention at the time, but couldn't capitalize. They stack up well with their peers like Ratt, Crue, Dokken, and the like, but in my opinion, this album blows away what those others produced. To my knowledge, Vain is still active, and I highly recommend their latest releases "Enough Rope" and "Rolling with the Punches," which sound exactly the same as this debut. Exactly.
Hey folks, Catching this on the replay. I'd like to put forward since you did a "Favorite Hair Metal" album show, why not do a" Favorite Thrash metal" album show.That'd be awesome. Just a thought. My top 5 "80's Hair Metal" albums: 1. Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil. 2. Ratt- Out of the Cellar. 3. Quiet Riot- Metal Health. 4. Dokken - Tooth and Nail. 5. Def Leppard - Pyromania. Honorable mentions: Twisted Sister - You Can't Stop Rock n Roll. Badlands- Badlands. Bon Jovi- Slippery When Wet. Def Leppard- Hysteria. Thanks.
Nobody brings up the more straight metal bands that had hair - Armored Saint - March of the Saint Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies Leatherwolf - Street Ready And more blues metal - Badlands - self-titled album And a little more pop metal - but came out of the LA scene - Autograph - Sign in Please
#5 Winger 1st. #4 TNT Tell No Tales. #3Dokken under clock and Key. #2 Stryper To Hell with the Devil #1 QueensRyche Rage for Order. I seen Loudness and TNT support Stryper in 87 at pine knob music theater in Detroit and it was Fantastic! Honorable mentions would be Extream pornagraphitie and Bon Jovi New Jersey.
1. Guns N’ Roses - AFD 2. Skid Row 3. Damn Yankees 4. Alice Cooper - Poison 5. Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood Honorable mention: Every Hair Metal Album Ever. Can I come on the show?
Since I didn't see an album by the band used to promote this episode featured by anyone on the panel, I'll give some love to Open Up And Say...Ahh! by Poison and Not Fakin' It by Michael Monroe deserves more love too ( a kick arse album in my book).
I see Appetite For Destruction getting a mention. One of my all-time fave albums yes, but I've never considered that, or the Gunners for that matter, to be from this genre. Just my opinion, of course.
in no particular order Pretty Boy Floyd “leather boys with electric toys” WASP “WASP” Skid Row “slave to the grind” Dokken “back for the attack “ RATT “out of the cellar “
Ironically, Andrew Clark is wearing a Monsters of Rock shirt. I saw Kingdom Come, *Dokken*, Metallica, Scorpions, and Van Halen on the Monsters of Rock tour at RFK June 10, 1988.
Hello everyone. Tom Werman produced the original Blow My Fuse. Beau Hill did the remix/remastered version I was holding up on the video. Thanks to our fellow Contrarian, Nick S Squire, for the correction! Cheers!
It’s too easy to cheat here. So many bands that are good and not really hair metal. I mean Ozzy was wearing glam outfits at one time so I pick Diary of a Madman…I would say hair metal has a certain sound to it as well not just an image.
Nice choices. I just posted and caught your "Di'Anno" pick. If you're not familiar with them, check out Praying Mantis, which features some awesome melodic metal and has somewhat of an early Maiden connection.
@@Vinnie857 I've had the Di'Anno album since 1990 on picture disc, but I never got into Praying Mantis for some reason. Though there are lot more "glam" NWOBHM bands that could have made the list but I can't remember all of them.
Good Lord! Way to many to name! ...And I really don't use that term, so here's a list of quality Hard Rock albums from bands who hit the scene in the 80's (and 70's): Def Leppard "High n Dry" Poison "Look what the cat dragged in" Lillian Axe "Love and War" Warrant "Dog Eat Dog" Motley Crue "Too Fast For Love" Skid Row "Slave to the Grind" Winger "Pull" Cinderella "Night Songs" Black n Blue "Without Love" Ratt "Out of the Cellar" Twisted Sister "Under The Blade" The Scream "Let it Scream" Hanoi Rocks "Two Steps from the Move" Saigon Kick "The Lizard" Love/Hate "Wasted In America" White Lion "Mane Attraction" Dokken "Tooth and Nail" WASP "WASP" Whitesnake "Slide it in" Scorpions "Blackout" Extreme "III sides of Every Story" Blue Murder "Blue Murder" Faster Pussycat "Wake me when it's over" Quiet Riot "Metal Health" Bon Jovi "Slippery When Wet" Heavy Pettin' "Rock ain't dead" Bulletboys "Bulletboys" David Lee Roth "Eat 'em and smile" Coney Hatch "Coney Hatch" Helix "Wild in the Streets" L.A. Guns "L.A. Guns" Enuff Z Nuff "Strength" D.A.D. "No Fuel left for the Pilgrams" Danger Danger "Four the Hard way" Europe "Start from the Dark" Fastway "Fastway" Guns n Roses "AFD" Great White "Great White" Harem Scarem "Mood Swings" Krokus "Hardware" Kingdom Come "In your face" Mama's Boys "Power and Passion" Mr. Big "Lean into it" Kix "Blow my fuse" Jackyl "Jackyl" Queensryche "Operation Mindcrime" Rough Cutt "Wants You" Sammy Hagar "Standing Hampton" Kiss "Creatures of the night" Sleeze Beez "Screwed Blued & Tattooed" Vandenberg "Vandenberg" Tesla "Bust a nut" TNT "Intuition" Tora Tora "Surprise Attack" Vinnie Vincent Invasion "Vinnie Vincent Invasion" Y&T "Black Tiger"
How to listen to Kiss: Alive!. Alive II, Dynasty - Creatures, Asylum, Crazy Nights - Revenge, Carnival of Souls, Psycho Circus - the trilogy of trilogies...the only way to adequately capture the full Kiss experience in a way that gets you the most impact, the most transmutation into their world....no Alive III, no Kiss Symphony...none of that...and on the flip side of that just described notion: no Destroyer
@@channelsurfer3710 no competition in my mind, definitely CN. One of my fav Kiss albums. I like HITS but it’s too long, which resulted in too much filler.
Hated hair metal , ratt stood out from among these groups because of there muscianship , jani lane from warrant was actually great , only liked a few of their songs though .... and lastly i really liked stryper they were hair metal but they were and are great muscians . Good show guys
@@thomaswery3087 Thank you Thomas and it is great to talk to you again! I have been focusing more on the channel I started here 3 months ago: www.youtube.com/@JohntheMusicNut.
Lenny Wolf sounds like Billy Squire. No way you can say Parish they cant play their instruments. Shredding is a pre requisite. A spot in my top 5 would include Nitro "OFR".
The point I was was trying to make was that many critics of hair metal state that many couldn’t play their instruments. Particularly the likes of Crue, Poison, Warrant. My response being I don’t care if they couldn’t. I agree tho’ there were lots of great musicians.
Best hair metal song “still of the night”- white snake. Ratts first 2 albums awesome Motley Crüe- shout at the devil Motley Crüe-girls, girls, girls- wild side one of best songs, title track, dancing on glass Tygers of pan tang- crazy nights -
Don’t like the term ”hair metal” and not sure what it means exactly… Gnr-Appetite for destruction Mötley-Shout at the devil Cinderella-Night songs Ratt-Out of the cellar La guns-la guns
I have Empire and Operation: Mindcrime by Queensryche. Good music, but didn't really like Geoff Tate's voice. Queensryche us kind of hair metal adjacent
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Great topic!! Here's my list with some honorable mentions
Out Of The Cellar - RATT
Long Cold Winter - Cinderella
Shout At The Devil - Mötley Crüe
The Great Radio Controversy - Tesla
W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P.
Honorable Mentions
Twice Shy - Great White
Dancin' On Coals - Bang Tango
The Lizard - Saigon Kick
Pull - Winger
Poison - Flesh 'N' Blood
Warrant - Cherry Pie
Some great choices.
Night Songs- Cinderella
Star Spangled Fist Fight- Kickin Valentina
Non Stop Rock n Roll- Wig Wam
Look What The Cat Dragged In- Poison
Cocked And Loaded- LA Guns
HM: Britny Fox- S/ T
Blow My Fuse- Kix
Love+War- Lillian Axe
1. Warrant - Cherry Pie 2. Poison - Flesh & Blood 3. Skid Row - Skid Row 4. Spread Eagle - Spread Eagle 5. Danger Danger - Screw It
- Shout At The Devil / Motley Crue
- debut / Faster Pussycat
- Slip of the Tongue / Whitesnake
- debut / WASP
Great talk and choices.
Van Halen- Van Halen ( they invented the look and sound)
Ratt - Cellar
Crue - Devil (and Too Fast for Love)
W.A.S.P- debut
Great White- Once Bitten (and the debut)
Twisted Sister- Under the Blade
Quiet Riot- Metal Health
Kiss - Lick it Up
Dokken- Tooth and Nail
Leppard- Pyromania (and of course High n Dry but it's more NWOBHM)
Stryper- To Hell with the Devil
Cinderella- Night Songs
Poison- Cat Dragged In
Skid Row debut
Winger - debut
Bon jovi- Slippery
Warrant- Cherry Pie (minus the title track)
Whitesnake- 87
Kix - Midnight Dynamite
White Lion- Pride
So many great albums
And yes, Y&T Contagious! That title track! And Warrant- Dog Eat Dog 🤘🏼 and Winger Pull.
Y&T are so underrated. They used to practice in a storage shed in Hayward. Great times
Lots of great choices! I suspect you’re right that VH influenced both the sound & look. I always thought Sweet were another big influence.
Thanks Contrarians! Great crew, some albums I know, some I don't and will check, always a pain for the wallet, but... whatever!
05) Kiss - Asylum
04) Aldo Nova - self titled debut
03) Vinnie Vincent - All Systems Go (I'm not a huge Slaughter fan but this one rips)
02) Kix - Reblown Fuse (So much better than the original production)
01) Ratt - Out of the Cellar
Honorable Mention: McQueen Street - self titled debut
I never considered Tesla or Badlands to be Hair Metal so my list would be very different if I were to include them.
1. Out Of The Cellar - RATT 2. Under Lock And Key - Dokken 3. Shout At The Devil - Motley Crue 4. Slippery When Wet - Bon Jovi 5. Open Up And Say Ahh - Poison
Favorite Hair Metal Albums:
1. Hysteria - Def Leppard
2. Whitesnake - Whitesnake '87
3. Van Halen - 5150
4. Winger - Debut
5. Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Honorable Mentions:
1. In the Heart of the Young - Winger
2. Pyromania - Def Leppard
There are some bands that are hair bands and some that just made hair metal records. Bands that preceeded Hair but certainly made hair metal records... Kiss and Def Leppard come to mind.
Great show.
My Top Hair Metal Albums (Glam N‘ Sleaze only):
01. Ratt - Out Of The Cellar
02. Mötley Crüe - Shout At The Devil
03. Skid Row - Slave To The Grind
04. Dangerous Toys - Dangerous Toys
05. Guns N‘ Roses - Appetite For Destruction
HM:
06. L.A. Guns - L.A. Guns
07. Cinderella - Night Songs
08. Vain - No Respect
09. Warrant - Cherry Pie
10. Tigertailz - Bezerk
Great to see Tigertailz get a mention. They were really good live.
The Faster Pussycat debut was as good as Gnr's Appetite for Destruction I think. "Babble on" or "Babylon", "Bathroom Wall" and "Cathouse" were songs that should of been classic radio hits. Dangerous Toys debut was a great rock album. No ballads, filthy and full of melodic hard rock.
Pretty Boy Floyd - Leather Boys
Poison - Cat Dragged In
Vain - No Respect
Cinderella - Night Songs
Tuff - Comes Around, Goes Around
Pretty Maids- Jump The Gun
Southgang- Tainted Angel
Saints And Sinners- s/t
Wildside- Under The Influence
Crashdiet- Rest In Sleaze
All worth a mention.
1 Vinnie Vincent Invasion - s/t 2) Vain - No Respect 3) Bon Jovi - New Jersey 4) Danger Danger - Screw It 5Dokken - Back For The Attack 5) KISS - Lick It Up 6) Babylon AD - s/t 7) WASP - s/t 8) Warrant - DRFSR 9) RATT - Detonator 10) Motley Crue - Dr Feelgood
Some great choices. New Jersey would be in my top 10.
Great choices all round. Nice to see Wildside, Spreadeagle, Juliet and Vain mentioned a few times in the comments. My own top 5 would include Baton Rouge and Bangalore Choir.
1. Danger Danger - Danger Danger
2. Poison - Open Up And Say…Ahh!
3. Bon Jovi - Slippery When Wet
4. Whitesnake - Whitesnake
5. Slaughter - Stick It To Ya
Honorary Mentions: Warrant - Cherry Pie, Cinderella - Long Cold Winter, Invasion - Invasion 2, Great White - Hooked, Babylon A.D. - Babylon A.D., Laos - We Want It
First 2 Motley Crue albums and Warrant - Cherry Pie. Cherry Pie and especially Uncle Tom's Cabin are great songs. RIP Jani Lane. Ratt - Out Of The Cellar and Skid Row - Skid Row as well.
I just saw Dokken two nights ago. Me and Don were staying at the same hotel. He was super nice and took a pic with me. That Back For the Attack guitar tone is my favorite of all time.
1. Whitesnake 1987
2. Out Of The Cellar - Ratt
3. Too Fast For Love - Motley Crue
4. Metal Health - Quiet Riot
5. Under Lock and Key - Dokken
HM
Skid Row - Skid Row
7800 Fahrenheit - Bon Jovi
Pride - White Lion
Long Cold Winter - Cinderella
Stick It To Ya - Slaughter
Winger(1988)
Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinkin Rich - Warrant
Jetboy - Damned Nation
Enuff Z'Nuff - Animals With Human Intelligence
Julliet - Julliet
Sven Gali - Sven Gali
Electric Angels - Electric Angels
The 3rd Winger album, “Pull”, is pretty damn good…probably their best. Thanks for mentioning!
I love this music genre my top 10 are 10 whitesnake 1987 9 blue murder 8 black n blue debut 7 Ozzy Osborn the ultimate sin 6 Ted Nugent penetrator 5 deff leopard pyromania 4 vandiburg band debut 3 white lion 1987 wait 2 jetboy dammed nation 1 ratt out of the cellar
Great choices
1) Vain : No Respect 2) Love/Hate : Blackout in a red room 3) LA Guns : S/T 4) Kick Axe : Welcome to the Club 5) Cinderella : Long Cold Winter
Some great choices
All good to great albums.
Yeah, that Kick Axe album was great, and so was their previous. I just posted and left off with Vain. I think they've got a new one on the way!
I absolutely love the Vain album. Best blind purchase I ever made
Ratt - Out of the Cellar
Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil
Cinderella - Long Cold Winter
Dokken - Under Lock and Key
Skid Row - S/T
I remember around 1989 1990 US radio was playing shit we hadnt got yet in 🇨🇦 i remember hearing youth gone wild and where the down boys go and thinkn wow this is US metal !!!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟
Great topic! I think I'd go with these five:
Out of the Cellar - Ratt (1984)
Stick It To Ya - Slaughter (1988)
Operation Mindcrime - Queensryche (1988)
Pride - White Lion (1987)
S/T - Whitesnake (1987)
Others (Honorable Mentions):
The Great Radio Controversy - Tesla (1989)
S/T - Kingdom Come (1988)
Not sure if these belong in the "hair metal" category, as it seems something that came up in the mid to late 80s, but....
Midnight Madness - Night Ranger (1983)
Metal Health - Quiet Riot (1983)
S/T - Badlands (1989) --- Don't know if they quite fit in the "hair metal" category or not, but incredible band.
Always thought Night Ranger were more AOR, but you can definitely argue the case for Hair Metal.
Sorry about that. After the dishes, l put the show on my earbuds and vacuumed. It’s Cretinous Cretin’s CHORE DAY! At any rate, without further ado, here are my choices:
5. Cinderella ~ Long Cold Winter
4. Tesla - The Great Radio Controversy
3. Extreme ~ III Sides to Every Story
2. Badlands ~ Badlands
1. Blue Murder ~ Blue Murder.
~ Davey Cretin, from Cretin Classics.
Love/Hate - Blackout in the Red Room is a killer underrated hair metal album.
Great album. Predated grunge by 3 years.
VAIN - NO RESPECT slays them all. All killer, no filler. Cinderella - Night Songs 2nd best. Faster Pussycat 3rd
Skid Row - Skid Row
Vain - No Respect
LA Guns - LA Guns
Spread Eagle - Spread Eagle
Lynch Mob - Wicked Sensation
Cinderella Long Cold Winter , Skid Row Slave to The Grind , Badlands Badlands , Extreme Extreme II Pornografitti , Ratt Invasion Of your Privacy
Great overview of a genre which is not treated with a whole lot of respect these days (and to be honest, not all of it is undeserved).
Anyway, my favorites which I keep coming back to (guilty pleasures?) are:
Ratt - Out of the Cellar
Ratt - Invasion of Your Privacy (which I think I actually like more than OOTC)
Dokken - Tooth & Nail
As a sleeper I would nominate Night Ranger's "Big Life". Is Night Ranger considered a hair metal band? I think so.
My favorite Def Leppard album is (of course) "Pyromania", and I consider them a part of the Hair Metal scene around then.
I definitely include Pyromania & Night Ranger
I’m gonna go with lesser known bands instead of the obvious picks.
1. Xenon - America’s New Design
2. Prophet - Cycle of the Moon
3. Ivory Tower - Heart of the City (the NJ band from the 80’s not the later prog metal band)
4. Saraya - Saraya (I’ll also tie it with their follow up When The Blackbird Sings)
5. TNT - Tell No Tails (ok these guys are a bit more known but they are still underrated IMO)
I know the last 2, great picks. Will have to check out the others.
Hardline - Double Eclipse
Danger Danger - Screw It!
Def Leppard - Hysteria
Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
Bon Jovi - New Jersey
Great choices. Forgot all about that Hardline album
I don't have a lot of records from that genre but the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album is a dark horse album
Excellent topic - made go back and listen to some of this stuff and realise, in general, I can't stand the majority of this 'strand' of music. I didn't then and don't now. I think the underlying reason for me is/was 'the smell of the PR/Marketing departments' all over the releases. 'Out Of The Cellar' one of the exceptions (one of the only ones I bought at the time).
Cinderella had some decent tracks - I never bought into the whole GNR thing at the time either / and still don't. (Slash is a top bloke notwithstanding)
Absolutely!!! I agree with John!!! Jani is sooooo underrated 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘😊
@@RobC-z9v Thank you Rob!
Mane Attraction - White Lion.
Great album
Black & Blue really needs their catalog to be reissued
I agree!
Dave, W.A.S.P. had a decent debut (I don't consider it Hair Metal but, I know they've somehow managed to get lumped in with the genre over the years) I really didn't like too much of the rest of their catalog. I guess I expected them to be a Heavy Metal band but, they got more commercial. No way I'd consider Queensryche Hair Metal. Especially The Warning! If you wanted to make a case that Rage For Order fits the genre you'd get less push back but, even that is more Progressive Metal than anything else. Icon is also mostly a traditional metal band. I do think the album you chose fits into the genre and I think they tried to make the jump to Hair Metal on that album. I have to check out Q5. I haven't heard of that one yet. Thunder in the East is totally Hair Metal and maybe one of the best examples of a traditional Metal band trying to fit into the Hair Scene.
I wasn't even gonna watch/listen to this video because of the title. IDGAF about the hair bands, which I define more narrowly, as in those bands who didn't play well and sing well, who had lotsa hair (teased or spiked, real and/or fake) and little talent.
"Hair band" and "hair metal" are terms of derision, meant to dismiss. In specific instances, using those terms in a very narrow way, the derision and dismissal are deserved (i.e. Motley Crap, Poison and their imitators). When those terms are more broadly used, as some music critics do, it is to dismiss most 1980's hard rock bands. This includes several great bands, whose members did play, sing and write well. Some of them didn't even have outrageous hair, like Mike and Alex from Van Halen, like Rudolf, Matthias and Klaus from Scorpions.
If we are defining "hair metal" so as to include bands like Mr. Big, Dokken and Queensryche, those bands go home with all the awards.
Ratt Invasion of Your Privacy is quite good also.
It starts off good but after the 3rd track,they probably lost many,but I hung around and liked Dancing + Detonator ,and Infestation.
Some nice picks guys. Black n' Blue's "Nasty Nasty" was a good one; I'm partial to their self-titled debut, which was their heaviest. Kingdom Come was a good choice. In fact, they don't sound like Zeppelin, seriously, listen to the whole album; and who cares anyway, it didn't hurt album sales at the time. I'd recommend the majority of their vast catalog (yes, vast) as they've done some great stuff that in my opinion surpasses that debut, starting with the follow up "In Your Face." Check out Stone Fury, Lenny Wolf's previous band to KC. The W.A.S.P. album’s long been one of my all-time faves. I didn’t think to include it because to me, the style was too dark, heavy, and aggressive to really fit in with the majority of the “hair” band types. Regardless, they created a one-of-a-kind banger of an record that still stands up today.
I'll throw a few of my own out here and steer away from the obvious; I've never been too big on the usual culprit types like Bon Jovi, Poison, Slaughter, etc. save for a song. I think there are some great quality bands that were much better but never caught a break:
1. Shy - "Excess All Areas": Any of their '80s titles, all great, but I'll home in on "Excess All Areas," which was as close as they came to being recognized.
2. Treat - "Scratch and Bite": From Sweden, rivaled the many more popular stateside acts, and had a few excellent releases in the '80s before bowing out and reforming years later--still active today, and still retain their classic style.
3. Praying Mantis - "Time Tells No Lies": NWOBHM fans may remember these guys from the UK, and their association with the likes of Maiden's Dennis Stratton, Paul Di'Anno, and Clive Burr; MSG's Gary Barden also sang for them. They're more Pop Metal or Melodic Rock than their peers, and they do it really really well. And they're still doing it (2022, 2024)!
4. Fastway - "Waiting for the Roar": Focusing specifically on albums, not bands, this was their foray into the Pop Metal scene. Following up their first two classics, like many during the mid-80s they went the way of the pop hook and keyboard to fit in with what was fashionable. This one, blown off by many, just resonated with me. I love the album cover, the keyboards, the hooks. Some things you just can't explain.
5. Tygers of Pan Tang - "The Wreck-Age": I'll simply repeat the same thing I wrote for Fastway above. Their path was nearly identical, though Tygers had a few more albums by then and thus their transition was more seamless. I can imagine most original fans hate this album, but taken for what it is, the songs are catchy, cheesy, and memorable as hell. And has anyone hear their later material in the 2000s? What a comeback!
Honorable mentions:
6. Lion - "Dangerous Attraction": Much heavier than many "hair" bands of the time, and featured Dough Aldrich on guitar and one of the best vocalists you've never heard of, Kal Swan. They did a version of the "Transformers" movie theme song back in the day. And it was pretty good.
7. Icon - "Night of the Crime": I can't say much more or much better than Butch Jones from SOT who often sings the praises of this band. Their 1989 release "Right Between the Eyes" was more "hair" metal, but not nearly as good as their first two releases earlier in the decade.
8. King Kobra - "Ready to Strike": Again, listen to Butch. He's on the money with these bands!
9. White Lion - "Fight to Survive": Their debut album was easily their best, in my opinion. Like many starting out, it was heavier and under produced, the band sounded hungrier, and the songs were more intricate and involved before they went mainstream in later years. They still did some decent albums like "Pride," but this first one was simply a step ahead of the rest.
10.Vain - "No Respect": Their first record came out in 1989, too late to catch the tailwind of hair metal popularity even two years earlier, but nonetheless, these guys produced a tremendous record that deserves more recognition. They got some attention at the time, but couldn't capitalize. They stack up well with their peers like Ratt, Crue, Dokken, and the like, but in my opinion, this album blows away what those others produced. To my knowledge, Vain is still active, and I highly recommend their latest releases "Enough Rope" and "Rolling with the Punches," which sound exactly the same as this debut. Exactly.
Some really interesting choices.
Kix, Midnight Dynamite, Bang Tango Psycho Cafe, Dokken Tooth and Nail,and Icon Night of the Crime
Hey folks,
Catching this on the replay.
I'd like to put forward since you did a "Favorite Hair Metal" album show, why not do a" Favorite Thrash metal" album show.That'd be awesome. Just a thought.
My top 5 "80's Hair Metal" albums:
1. Motley Crue - Shout At The Devil.
2. Ratt- Out of the Cellar.
3. Quiet Riot- Metal Health.
4. Dokken - Tooth and Nail.
5. Def Leppard - Pyromania.
Honorable mentions:
Twisted Sister - You Can't Stop Rock n Roll.
Badlands- Badlands.
Bon Jovi- Slippery When Wet.
Def Leppard- Hysteria.
Thanks.
Great shout with Pyromania. One of my favourite albums of all time.
RATT RULES! Saw them hrtfrd Ct Webster Theatre 10 yrs ago Epic.
White Lion - Pride
Poison - Flesh & Blood
Bon Jovi - Slippery when wet
Cinderella - Long Cold Winter
Tesla - The Great Radio Controversy
Great choices!
Nobody brings up the more straight metal bands that had hair -
Armored Saint - March of the Saint
Lizzy Borden - Visual Lies
Leatherwolf - Street Ready
And more blues metal - Badlands - self-titled album
And a little more pop metal - but came out of the LA scene - Autograph - Sign in Please
That Autograph albums really good
@parishofrock2963 it's definitely awesome
#5 Winger 1st. #4 TNT Tell No Tales. #3Dokken under clock and Key. #2 Stryper To Hell with the Devil #1 QueensRyche Rage for Order. I seen Loudness and TNT support Stryper in 87 at pine knob music theater in Detroit and it was Fantastic! Honorable mentions would be Extream pornagraphitie and Bon Jovi New Jersey.
1. Guns N’ Roses - AFD
2. Skid Row
3. Damn Yankees
4. Alice Cooper - Poison
5. Motley Crue - Dr. Feelgood
Honorable mention: Every Hair Metal Album Ever.
Can I come on the show?
Love that Damn Yankees album
Bon Jovi-New Jersey
KISS-Asylum
Vain-No Respect
Badlands-S/T
Cinderella-Long Cold Winter
New Jersey almost my list!
Since I didn't see an album by the band used to promote this episode featured by anyone on the panel, I'll give some love to Open Up And Say...Ahh! by Poison and Not Fakin' It by Michael Monroe deserves more love too ( a kick arse album in my book).
Poison’s Flesh & Blood nearly made my list. Love that album.
I see Appetite For Destruction getting a mention. One of my all-time fave albums yes, but I've never considered that, or the Gunners for that matter, to be from this genre.
Just my opinion, of course.
@@thelonestranger4226 the look in those early videos (Paradise City in particular) is quite Hair Metal imo, but they soon moved on from it.
Great list. Would make an excellent Spotify playlist.
in no particular order
Pretty Boy Floyd “leather boys with electric toys”
WASP “WASP”
Skid Row “slave to the grind”
Dokken “back for the attack “
RATT “out of the cellar “
Ironically, Andrew Clark is wearing a Monsters of Rock shirt. I saw Kingdom Come, *Dokken*, Metallica, Scorpions, and Van Halen on the Monsters of Rock tour at RFK June 10, 1988.
1. Warrant DRFSR
2. Cinderella Long Cold Winter
3. Warrant Dog Eat Dog
4. Poison Flesh and Blood
5. Warrant Cherry Pie
DRFSR doesn't get enough credit. It's such a fun album!
Flesh & Blood nearly made my list.
Dog eat dog is warrants best album 🙌
@@christianhaynes1954 I lot of people have this opinion. I tried man. I really wanted to love it for sure but just couldn't get into it.
@@parishofrock2963 An absolute Classic!!
Faster Pussycat better be on this list.
Hello everyone. Tom Werman produced the original Blow My Fuse. Beau Hill did the remix/remastered version I was holding up on the video. Thanks to our fellow Contrarian, Nick S Squire, for the correction! Cheers!
Awesome selections. We lined up once again 👍💯
@garyjoyce2160 Thank you Gary!
Nailed it John. All great albums. Of the 5 you selected Kix is probably my favorite.
@@rockandmetalinvasion Thanks Steve!
Ratt Out of the Cellar, Motley Crue Shout at the Devil, and Van Halen 1.
Nightsongs freakin Rocks!
It does.
now this is my topic
It’s too easy to cheat here. So many bands that are good and not really hair metal. I mean Ozzy was wearing glam outfits at one time so I pick Diary of a Madman…I would say hair metal has a certain sound to it as well not just an image.
Scott Rockenfield is a top ten drummer for me
Top Three for me.
Ratt Out of the Cellar
Britney Fox Bite Down Hard
Di'Anno Di'Anno
Quiet Riot IV
Great White Twice Shy
Nice choices. I just posted and caught your "Di'Anno" pick. If you're not familiar with them, check out Praying Mantis, which features some awesome melodic metal and has somewhat of an early Maiden connection.
@@Vinnie857 I've had the Di'Anno album since 1990 on picture disc, but I never got into Praying Mantis for some reason. Though there are lot more "glam" NWOBHM bands that could have made the list but I can't remember all of them.
Good Lord! Way to many to name! ...And I really don't use that term, so here's a list of quality Hard Rock albums from bands who hit the scene in the 80's (and 70's):
Def Leppard "High n Dry"
Poison "Look what the cat dragged in"
Lillian Axe "Love and War"
Warrant "Dog Eat Dog"
Motley Crue "Too Fast For Love"
Skid Row "Slave to the Grind"
Winger "Pull"
Cinderella "Night Songs"
Black n Blue "Without Love"
Ratt "Out of the Cellar"
Twisted Sister "Under The Blade"
The Scream "Let it Scream"
Hanoi Rocks "Two Steps from the Move"
Saigon Kick "The Lizard"
Love/Hate "Wasted In America"
White Lion "Mane Attraction"
Dokken "Tooth and Nail"
WASP "WASP"
Whitesnake "Slide it in"
Scorpions "Blackout"
Extreme "III sides of Every Story"
Blue Murder "Blue Murder"
Faster Pussycat "Wake me when it's over"
Quiet Riot "Metal Health"
Bon Jovi "Slippery When Wet"
Heavy Pettin' "Rock ain't dead"
Bulletboys "Bulletboys"
David Lee Roth "Eat 'em and smile"
Coney Hatch "Coney Hatch"
Helix "Wild in the Streets"
L.A. Guns "L.A. Guns"
Enuff Z Nuff "Strength"
D.A.D. "No Fuel left for the Pilgrams"
Danger Danger "Four the Hard way"
Europe "Start from the Dark"
Fastway "Fastway"
Guns n Roses "AFD"
Great White "Great White"
Harem Scarem "Mood Swings"
Krokus "Hardware"
Kingdom Come "In your face"
Mama's Boys "Power and Passion"
Mr. Big "Lean into it"
Kix "Blow my fuse"
Jackyl "Jackyl"
Queensryche "Operation Mindcrime"
Rough Cutt "Wants You"
Sammy Hagar "Standing Hampton"
Kiss "Creatures of the night"
Sleeze Beez "Screwed Blued & Tattooed"
Vandenberg "Vandenberg"
Tesla "Bust a nut"
TNT "Intuition"
Tora Tora "Surprise Attack"
Vinnie Vincent Invasion "Vinnie Vincent Invasion"
Y&T "Black Tiger"
Warrant Dog Eat Dog was a great record.
Great topic. Need more hair metal!
We certainly do!
the first two Kingdom Come records....in their dreams Kiss could put out records in the '80s that good...
Always liked Stone Fury Burns Like a Star. Lenny Wolf’s band before he joined Kingdom Come. Some crunchy guitars and the Wolfe vocals
In The Heart Of The Young!! Great pick David
How to listen to Kiss: Alive!. Alive II, Dynasty - Creatures, Asylum, Crazy Nights - Revenge, Carnival of Souls, Psycho Circus - the trilogy of trilogies...the only way to adequately capture the full Kiss experience in a way that gets you the most impact, the most transmutation into their world....no Alive III, no Kiss Symphony...none of that...and on the flip side of that just described notion: no Destroyer
Interesting way to cover their discography in 9 albums. Personally I’d replace Carnivals with Sonic Boom to include the 2000s era:
@@parishofrock2963 that sounds good....I was debating Crazy Nights v. Hot In the Shade...
@@channelsurfer3710 no competition in my mind, definitely CN. One of my fav Kiss albums. I like HITS but it’s too long, which resulted in too much filler.
@@parishofrock2963 ok, thanks....I changed it to Hot In the Shade but then changed it back..
@ good choice 🤣
Hated hair metal , ratt stood out from among these groups because of there muscianship , jani lane from warrant was actually great , only liked a few of their songs though .... and lastly i really liked stryper they were hair metal but they were and are great muscians . Good show guys
Platingum???
Ratt and Cinderella are my favorites.I don't think either band made a bad album
Other than the 99 Ratt album,I liked every album.
I agree, although I’ve only got into Ratt in recent years.
I agree on Cinderella. All of those albums are 8's and 9's for me.
@@JohntheMusicNut good to see you on a show again
@@thomaswery3087 Thank you Thomas and it is great to talk to you again! I have been focusing more on the channel I started here 3 months ago: www.youtube.com/@JohntheMusicNut.
Does White Snake self-titled album count?
Their hair certainly qualified and some of the tracks were metal so they have to lol
It certainly does.
Yacht metal 😆
🤣
I have no hair metal albums, but I like a song here and there.
Wasp , Ratt , Cinderella debuts & Shout At The Devil were definitely within my top 50 albums of the 1980s.
I agree. Great albums.
Seduce: Too Much is Not Enough.
Lenny Wolf sounds like Billy Squire.
No way you can say Parish they cant play their instruments. Shredding is a pre requisite.
A spot in my top 5 would include Nitro "OFR".
except Lenny is a way better singer...
Always enjoy what Lenny has released over the years
The point I was was trying to make was that many critics of hair metal state that many couldn’t play their instruments. Particularly the likes of Crue, Poison, Warrant. My response being I don’t care if they couldn’t. I agree tho’ there were lots of great musicians.
@parishofrock2963 noted, thanks. Mike Slammer playing on the first two Warrant albums gives your opinion weight.
Best hair metal song “still of the night”- white snake.
Ratts first 2 albums awesome
Motley Crüe- shout at the devil
Motley Crüe-girls, girls, girls- wild side one of best songs, title track, dancing on glass
Tygers of pan tang- crazy nights -
Tygers’ Crazy Nights is a cool choice. Hadn’t thought of that
Best song clearly UH! ALL NIGHT.
Clearly 😂
Love At First Sting, Slide It In...two more that are way above Kiss in the '80s....
Jani Lane's name is pronounced Yah-nee
Thanks Drew! Yeah, I've also heard it prononced as Johnny. Hmmmm.
Dr. Feelgood is by FAR the best Motley Crue album.
My favourite is the shortest one tbh
Too Fast for Love by Motley Crue
Such a great album!
All Of Them
Don’t like the term ”hair metal” and not sure what it means exactly…
Gnr-Appetite for destruction
Mötley-Shout at the devil
Cinderella-Night songs
Ratt-Out of the cellar
La guns-la guns
Appetite is a great choice.
Well said.no such thing as hair metal.its all rock or hard rock as far as iam concerned. The hair was the look
I don't care for any thing by Warrent, (just my opinion)
Jackyl ?
I have Empire and Operation: Mindcrime by Queensryche. Good music, but didn't really like Geoff Tate's voice. Queensryche us kind of hair metal adjacent
Warrent sucked. My fav album is Night Songs by Cinderella. Killer hard rock album. Its by far the best album of the hair metal days