a big head and a small hole can be a problem....that’s what she said 🤣😂 just can’t help it...that kinda stuff has cracked me up for 50 years and will most likely continue my entire life
They have newer versions where it seems they increased the head hole and hood size that was always my biggest issue with it. I see the idea of having a smaller hood as when combined with a wet weather poncho you don't want it being larger then the poncho hood.
Back in 1985 as an active duty Marine I fell in love the military poncho liner, aka "woobie" this thing is a woobie on steroids and has replaced my beloved woobie in my gear list. The price is a bit high for me but with the quality it's a "buy once, cry once" type of item, very durable in the use I have put it through.
I used the poncho liner as well but twenty year’s later, I also wish I had one of these when I served 😀. But it shows the simplest things stand the test of time.
I was watching a fantastic BBC documentary called “Once upon a time in Iraq “. I saw several middle aged men/veterans talking about their experiences! All of a sudden I realised I’m one of those middle aged guys ! I just can’t bring myself to call me a veteran! Surely I can’t have gotten that old so quickly ?
I was in 1st. Mar Div C Co. 1/1 89'-91' I just recently heard the term "Woobie" referring to a Poncho Liner. I don't EVER remember hearing that word back then because I surely would remember it.
I think the Thirty degrees was a misunderstanding. The reviewer was reading the laundry instructions but didn't realise it, ie it should be washed at 30°c which is a cool wash in a washing machine in Europe. Not joking.
You can tuck the hood in the chest pocket for the sleeping bag configuration thats what the velcrobis for. You can also pack the entire bag into a zip chest pocket, making it self containing. I use the swagman roll myself into ~43°F and i am comfortable as long as I add a fleece hat, thermal base-layer and wool socks. I like sleeping feeling a little cool rather than warm. Edit: for fit i am 6'1", athletic build with a 43 inch chest and wider than average shoulders, i have enough room to sleep fine, but i think im at that "comfort limit". Just tested the head hole, you can make a fist and put your head and fist through the hole and still put it through without feeling like the hole is small. I wear a size 7 ¼ hat.
Dave Canterbury is a brand ambassador for Helikon and he fully endorses the Swagman Roll along with some of his fellow instructors at the Pathfinder school, (Josh Enyart, Shawn Kelly). So if you're an owner of this bag you're in very good company.
Tested mine about two weeks ago. It got down to freezing. I was wearing a pair of flannel lined pants and shirt. Watching the thermometer I was comfortable to around 39 degrees. I didn't set a fire and was using my poncho as a tarp with a Walmart blue mat as a ground pad. After 39 degrees I pulled out my GI wool blanket and slept the rest of the night, but as mentioned I was wearing flannel lined clothes. Walmart grade here folks. Just a set I wear at work NOT my good "go to the woods" clothes.
I've spent well-over 6,000 grand on gear in the last 2 years. Tents, pack(s), clothing, knifes etc. Been a hunter, fisherman, camper, hiker, woodsman for most of my life. The swagman roll, for me at least, is a great piece of kit, for me. Once its cooler outside, I carry it and use it allot. I use it to replace a jacket, I've slept in it and under it, again, it works for me. I'm 6'1 225lbs, sure, as Luke said, it can be a little tight in sleeping bag mode, hood yes a bit tight, but I like it, i look at it as a backup to several items, for a what if....
The zippered chest pocket is a storage option as well. With the face down, flatten out into Blanket Mode. Stow away the Hood into the Hood Pocket. Fold the Roll in on itself so it assumes the rough shape of the chest pocket. Flip over to face up. Reach inside the chest pocket to a deep corner and grip all of the layered material. Gently Pull the roll into the pocket, Close the Zipper. It takes some stuffing and adjusting but it saves a lot of space, compared to the normal storage bag. Could also be used as a pillow or seat cushion.
I have a Swagman Roll, since Spring 2019. It´s one of the Best equiptment you can buy. BUT- I wish they produce a larger Version for bigger people, with wider shoulders. To use it as a sleeping bag, its a little bit to tight for me.
Swagman roll is a piece of equipment for emergencies, it's not a deticated sleepimg bag which those aren't either as biig as our beds at home, it's a multitool that has to be easy to carry (lightweight and small). It's designed to perfection, that's why Luke said, that all people who knows love it and none has any issue with it!!
Hi Luke. Hello Everyone. FYI For the Helikon-Tex Swagman Roll to keep a person warn below 50 degrees you need to use the military poncho WITH the Swagman Roll. I am slowly rebuilding my shelter kit and I bought a Swagman Roll and military poncho from Helikon-Tex back in 1999 after watching review from others and I was able to stay warm in the LOW 40's to the high 30's with the Swagman Roll and military poncho (USED TOGETHER.) Using the two together is the only way I have ever used the set. GREAT KIT AND GREAT VIDEO.
I'm 5'9" and 160#. The swagman roll has proven to be excellent! I use it as the poncho (liner), blanket and sleeping bag. Have not used it as a hammock under quilt, but the corner toggles and the buckle straps seem they would make that use pretty easy. I operate in the desert, so the insulation is often adequate for my needs. I sometimes supplement the swagman roll with a woobie or wool blanket. All in all, a great piece of gear!
Just got my first swagman roll,I like the breathable aspect of it as I’m moving.Im a big guy,310 lbs,and it offers me a lot of mobility of movement.Good purchase.
A great Review! I Love my Swagman Roll. The dimensions are such that when used as a poncho liner the poncho covers it completely, thus if it was any wider the toggles wouldn't line up with the grommets on a poncho. I have wide shoulders so zipping it up is out of the question so I use it as a quilt, I create a foot box (using the zipper) and have used mine down to around 50 degrees comfortably (colder with a reflector fire and tarp). When the temperatures dip below 50 to in the upper 30's proper sleepwear and a wobbie to sleep on and I can stay comfortable. If you don't want to use the stuff sack, you can stuff it into it's kangaroo pocket. When hammock camping with an under quilt and this as an over quilt I stay comfortable into the 50s.
I am impressed with the product description, but I am even MORE impressed with your objective review on this and other products. Thank you, for you are doing a legitimate service for camping enthusiasts, unlike too many other RUclips.
I've read all the replies B4 composing mine. I first heard about & saw Corporal's Corner use & review of The Swagman's Roll. In my opinion, this is a MUST HAVE for that just in case moment when in a vehicle. For myself, I would most likely use it as a very heavy Poncho, however, I already have an Arcturus Poncho that weighs only 11oz & comes down to the top of my ankles. I doubt I'd ever use it as something to sleep in.. I, too, have heard nothing but GOOD THINGS others have said about the Swagman's Roll
I've watched a lot of guys wearing/using it and swearing by it. But having it on or waking up under didn't help me much. This is the first in-depth review that I've seen. Thanks for the information. I'm definitely getting this now for my winter go bag.
This is the "Oh No she is snoring again" bag for the sofa. It works, had one since Jan 19 still looks new after numerous washes. Downside, the dog loves it too. Agree the real downside is the width but at 6'3'' its still works for me, just. I have also used it with my Snugpak Elite 3 to add a season last winter. Never feels damp, big bonus in Britain. Keep up the awesome reviews.
I have had mine for about 2 years now and love it works well as a blanket, poncho liner. I use it in the hammock in the summer and a blanket in the house in the winter it usually rides in my pack as an extra layer just in case.
Love my swagman roll. Your review is spot on, including the Cons. When I go bivy and swagman, I just wear the swagman in poncho mode and then get into the bivy. Works best for me.
I own one of these, and they are great for some things. I primarily use it as a wind breaker and top layer while doing landscape photography at higher elevations. Also a travel blanket for warmer temperatures. At 6'2' and heavier set the sleeping bag config is useless for me, but as a underquilt on a hammock it does well. As something becomes more multi functional it has to sacrifice in places... I think they balanced it pretty well :D Thanks so much for all your hard work and amazing reviews!
I know the other channel that took it down to around freezing, he did it with a tarp and fire not as a stand alone bit of gear. But your honest review is greatly appreciated.
You can cinch both sides and use the poncho loops to string it to your hammock. You'd need to buy some shock cord. Can't tell you how warm it would be though.
Seems to me it'd be more usefull as an extra layer to add to your existing underquilt when needed rather than relying on it on it's own. Though I guess it might be good in warmer climates.
Luke, I have 2 of the Swagman rolls.... they are super value due to the fact they are multi use item. I use one of mine as an under-quilt for my hammock, I didn't see a demonstration of that. I added about 4 foot of shock cord and a small carabiner, between the built in cinch cords, on each end for quick deployment as a under-quilt. The other one is for multi function use - quilt, poncho liner, blanket, sleeping bag liner, cool morning or evening fireside wrap. I could still use them both for all purposes, but kind of dedicated one for the under-quilt, for ease. Really good piece of kit!
It reminds me a lot about the Jerven Fjellduken Hunter, that I've mentioned before, although that one is slightly different. It's 40 inches in sleeping bag mode, instead of the 29 inches. It also comes in King Size. These considerations also comes at a premium. However the differences, these tools are universally treasured and it's cool to see. Everyone should own one of these. If not for emergency reasons in your truck, then at least for having a cheaper entry into the 4 season. Combine it with a 3 season bag, and you're ready for the wonder of cowboy camping in the snow. It's something completely different to wake up covered in white snow all around and no shelter. I hope everyone can experience that, at least once.
I've looked at this a few times over the past couple years. Still can't make myself pull the trigger and the price keeps going up. I do appreciate you taking a look at it for us. Thanks, Luke.
I'm with you. I like the idea of owning a swagman roll but it packs like a sleeping bag size anyway so why take a chance of having a cold night, and I already have the helikon poncho which packs small. Wearing the swagman roll as a poncho looks like a sweaty experience if you are on the move. I fear that it would do everything, but nothing well enough. Am I wrong?
Bought one in the pencott camo. It is superb. Love the multi use. As poncho in the day/evening then as quilt in hammock. Have used it down to 0c in uk in hammock with Snugpak cocoon. And in bivy bag with snugpak jungle blanket. Again down to 0c. Plenty warm enough. The multi function combined with jungle bag small pack size and weight is great. Thanks for the detailed review. It’s what made me get one and so glad I did. I will never go out without it.
I love mine. Sleep with it at home too. The outer is also windproof and that makes a big difference for a cheeky afternoon outdoor nap. It's good at transferring out moisture so the dog likes to sleep under it when she's just had a bath. I'm a bit big to use it in sleep bag mode but it functions just fine as a top quilt zipped up with a foot box. I haven't tried it as a hammock underquilt. It does stuff down into the reversible front pocket and it makes an acceptable cushion in that config too. When the weather's a bit cold I use an old wobbie inside the swagman. I'd love it if somebody made a plus sized version with poncho - I'd buy that and give this one to my wife. I know outdoor innovations does something a bit similar in huge sizes, but them prices.
Thank you Luke, I appreciate your honesty. I intended to buy one of these, but because it was out of stock I didn't have a chance, guess it was a boon instead. I have Enormous shoulders and a huge head, think human pitbull, lol. I also had planned on using it for cold weather hunting, around 30 degrees or lower, so I'm afraid it is not going to work for me. I think I will try to make a custom Cagoule instead. You kept me from regretting it Mr. Luke, I thank you.
I have had one for about a year and a half and agree with everything you said, have slept out in the hammock with this as a top quilt to about 50F and it was perfect as a poncho liner its great and I keep it in the car when we go to fall soccer or sports and the kids have used it while spectating to keep warm or as a ground cloth. I like to bring it on winter hikes as another layer , ground cloth or pto use with the ponch when it just a raw rainy day. I would definitely recommend it to other.s
Everyone crowing "they're out of stock!" -- go look at Helikon-Tex's webstore. Not their USA webstore, their Polish one. It's in stock there and will ship from Poland, so it'll take a bit, but they have them in stock there. Took me maybe a week to get it.
refutonefandus I bought mine from their Poland store too. It was a lot for shipping from Poland to the USA but I got the color I wanted and did not have to endure the agony of out of stock, out of stock, at every store I shopped at just trying to find a place that had the swagman in stock. They are good ponchos, sleeping bags, whatever you want to call it. I like mine a lot!
I'm using it for few years and I just love it. Absolutely no issues. And yes, it's tight as a sleeping bag, works great as an under blanket for the hammock. Very versatile. I totally recommend it.
Honestly the sleeping bag aspect is the least useful. If I was to use this as an impromptu shelter I would wear it as a poncho liner underneath a water proof poncho and sleep leaning against a tree so you have the least contact with the ground sapping away heat. It wouldn't be comfortable but would keep you more dry in rainy weather then lying on the wet ground.
Wiggy's insulated poncho for $95 is pretty similar. Lamilite\Climashield insulated poncho with a hood. I've had mine for years. Works great as a summer quilt. Also good to put on the top of down in the winter to move the frost to the Climashield and away from the down. Also good for an emergency ditch bag on paddle trips to warm up if you've taken an unplanned swim. For that matter, it works great on the couch. :) To get below 50 F, skip the zipper and use it as a quilt doubled on top of you. Your sleeping pad should be providing the insulation under you.
Had my eye on this thing for a while, and glad to finally see your review of it. I knew a lot of the info already, but as usual you covered some of the things you just can’t know by looking at pics or certain videos. Excellent review as always, and this video helped me make up my mind on whether to purchase it or not. Keep up the great work
I loved my Swagman, but at 6' and over 300lbs it was useless as a bag and barely covered me as a blanket. So I "upgraded" to the Hill People Gear Mountain Serape, but I miss the grommet toggles, chest pouch, and buckle system on the Swagman. If Helikon-Tex came out with an XL version, I'd definitely switch back. Great, comprehensive review as always!
Ponchos are great for when you're hiking with a pack and getting a sweat on in foul weather as they're much more breathable that having a gortex jacket on especially if you run hot. Nice review Sir, and you're correct in saying the neck and head space needs to be a lot bigger, Helikon Tex take note.
Nothing better then waking up in the morning and chucking this on, it's great when sitting as it covers your legs. With a fire nearby and some warm clothes your golden. I agree for very cold weather it's not suitable as a standalone sleep system but I often find I can combine it fairly well with my current sleep system just by adding it ontop of my sleeping bag as a blanket for added insulation but I would not rely on it for extreme weather it's always an addon an extra comfort item it should not be seen as something to replace a dedicated piece of cold weather kit.
Huge fan and follower from over the pond. Purchased this following your review. I have used it a lot. In all modes. Mostly poncho sitting around camp in the evening and morning. Great extra if temperature drops in the night over or in sleeping bag. Agree it is a little snug but great as blanket. As a summer/autumn under quilt for hammock it is superb. So versatile. I rarely go out out overnight without it. 👍🏼
Thanks for the review! This is one item that's been on my radar but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I wonder if used as an inner liner for a sleeping bag if it would help out the R rating on say a 40F bag. I've actually seen Corporal Kelly use this as a low shelter tarp too.
I’ve been interested in this product ever since I saw Dave Canterbury use one. However, I decided to wait for you to do a review of it. With cold weather coming I will put it Spring gear wish list.
Thanks. I used this video and the comments to work out if my swagman roll would be suitable for the temps I would experience on a recent overnight hike and it worked out fine. Got down to 12C / 50F and I was warm in my hammock with a 20F underquilt and decent clothing (no puffy jacket).
This is a review that I've been waiting for a long time. This product seems to be just as good if not even better than I was expecting it to be. Helikon-Tex is really upping their ante, kudos to them.
I’ve had one for the past year and it works well as a poncho, under blanket and quilt. It really needs to be wider in sleeping bag mode - I’d say 37 to 39 inches wide because of my broad shoulders and chest. Otherwise sleeping bag mode makes me feel like sausage meat in a casing and difficult to get out of quickly. It would also be nice if Helikon-Tex made it with 100 gram/square meter Climashield Apex rather than the 67 gram / square meter stuff. As it stands, the Swagman roll is adequate for 3 season use. For 4 season use I use Varusteleka’s Thermal Cloak, available in uninsulated, 67 gram/ square meter Climashield(what I have), and 100 gram/ square meter versions. It works better than the Swagman roll as a sleeping bag (more width) and as a overbag with a regular sleeping bag inside. It is pricey, but for me, worth it. The Thermal Cloak and Carinthia’s Defence 4 sleeping bag keep me comfortable to -30 C (-22 F) on a good R factor sleeping pad. Good review, Luke, thank you.
That looks really nice. I just got a delivery this morning from Amazon, a Snugpak Jungle Blanket XL. My new 'woobie'. I can use it as an underquilt for my hammock with tarp clips. The Swagman Roll makes me wish it could have a poncho mode, too.
I completely agree on temp rating. I used a queen size Alpaca blanket and slept comfortably in a two man tent in 13 F weather. I used it I quilt mode with zipped three quarters up. Next time I try this I will pin up the blanket though.
Thank you so much, I am 183cm tall and about 90kg. Was seriously looking at getting this and now I have realised I am going to be to claustrophobic in it. I also have a massive and I mean massive head, 59cm. I need a special ordered Kevlar helmet.
Love mine. It’s great for the UK summer and I use mine in my hammock as a liner. Great for my car in my bug out bag. I have their poncho but it leaks. I have their rucksack to. Good kit.
I have one of these, and used it on a 10 day trip on the Jura here in Switzerland this past summer. I usually carry my poncho liner, or my Kifaru Woobie. But I liked it. I didn't zip it up. I cant fit inside of it. It's too slim for my body size. So I just zip up the feet, and cover myself with the rest. Over all, a great product.
I like the fact it is multi functional. I was thinking on 30 degree weather that one could put this in a sleeping bag. Not only is it a poncho liner but it is also a sleeping bag liner.
I have two of these. Nice, but the hood comes to point, making me look like a garden gnome. Wilderness Innovation has a better hood on their Osni poncho liner. I don't use it as a sleeping bag, but as a quilt. Works well in Colorado down to 50deg or so, with adequate insulation underneath.
My solution for the tightness of the swagman roll is to raise the zipper only halfway, leaving the upper half open and put the zipper under me (inside my bivy bag), that is, I use it as a quilt
I just ordered my second one this time in US woodland. the old one is flecktarn and it works great with my main poncho the wilderness innovations hammock poncho.
Helikon-Tex certainly needs to make an XL or larger version of the Swagman Roll, this one is way to small for my 6'5" 235lb frame😒 Tried it last year and gave it to my grandson, it's too small for him also at 6'4" 180lbs🙄 This has some nice features, too bad we can't use it. So goes the luck with being in the "Tall" guys crowd🤔 Another honest and reliable review, thanks Luke👍
Great review, Luke. I love Helikon Tex products and the Swagman Roll is without a doubt my favorite. This and the HT Poncho, in a camo pattern, have replaced my aged and beloved military poncho and woobie. I cowboy camp a lot (stealth camping) and using a 5X7ft camo tarp as my shelter; total weight at 3.7lbs. My mattress is a debris stuffed 55gl contractor bag. When the temperatures dropped into the low 40's I would take a SnugPak jungle blanket or my woobie to supplement my bedroll. At times the set up was a little too warm and had to shed the blanket. I am a large framed guy and weigh 225 and cannot use the roll as a sleeping bag but just pull the poncho and Swagman (as I lay on one side of it) over me like a blanket. The poncho helps to keep the moisture or morning dew from dampening the roll and to keep the "hawk" or wind from penetrating the bedroll. That was cool learning that this material was used in horse blankets...thanks! I ordered a Helikon Tex Patriot fleece jacket and some of their clothing to replace my old LAPG stuff; HT quality is incredible. Walmart should take note!
Great review, as allways spot on! 👍 I've been using the Swagman Role for well over a year now. It lives in the bottom of my backpack and comes along on all hikes. At night I use it as a quilt in combination with an insulated sleeping pad since it is indeed too narrow to fit my shoulder. The lowest I've tried sofar is 12c (54F) and it kept me nice and warm. At lower temps I bring a dedicated 20F down quilt, that weighs about the same, but is much less flexible! Been trying to purchase a second Swagman Roll for the car winter emergency kit, but they are out of stock.
I wonder how much you can push its limits by just bringing an ultralight sleeping bag liner and a bivy. Silk liners and other liners usually are under 150g and they can keep you warmer. Ultralight bivys share the same caracteristics, in addition to bring waterproofness. You could also wear thermal undreclothing. That's be so interesting to see. Bivy + liner + thermal clothing and add a head bugnet... You'd be able to put the liner and the bivy in your pocket. A whole sleep system without a bag.
@@greg5478 My experience is that the colder it gets, the less useful the 'multiuse' feature of the Swagman becomes, since you are likely to bring a dedicated warm Jacket anyway. For emergencies in Spring/Fall you could combine the swagman with an energency mylar blanket. I've splurged on a Jerven Bag Exclusive with a warm liner since. It has become my emergency companion for winter. The Swagman now spends much time in the trunk of my car.
I use mine as a quilt. I just zip it up to the first buckle to make a foot box and sleep on top of a sleeping pad. I supplement it with a down throw in colder temps.
Saw this on corporals corner. As a 6 foot broad shouldered 220 pound man it is definitly restrictive in sleeping bag mode. If I keep my arms out of it I am comfortable in any position. With my arms and shoulders in it it will work but barely. It is pretty darn tight but in a pinch if you need to stay warm it will do the trick
I bought one and so far i like it. One thing i will say in the sleeping bag configuration you better not be a very broad feller. Its a tight fit for me its nice but about another inch or 2 of material would have been nice. In an emergency its better than nothing, but if your very wide in the shoulder area just a heads up just use it as a blanket . He is spot on innthe video about the sleeping bag mode.
Hey Luke...love your channel! I have an alternate suggestion I believe as good and I'm not sure you have tested yet. It's the One Tigris ROC Poncho Sleeping Bag for $72.98 on Amazon. It seems to be almost the same. Not that many reviews on it.
I agree the head hole/opening is a little tight. I have a thick neck. Otherwise, this is a great piece of kit. I use it most as an additional piece of insolation in my sleep system and as a poncho in the early mornings as I start the day.
Thanks for the review. Yep, with your cons, I'll stick with a plain GI poncho liner. For 90% of what I'd use it for, I have a big "jedi" style terrycloth robe that can do the same thing at similar size and weight. Yes, with a different set of cons.
We have thermarest Honcho Ponchos/blanket for when we camp in Autumn and early spring when weather can still be chilly, making it cold inside the tent. These are a brilliant idea. No doubt the Helikons are just as good.
Awesome review Luke! I think this paired with the helikon tex rain poncho its perfect for summer time use or as a minimalist bugout bag sleep system. For the warmer months unless you have really good insulation layers. The weight and packability of both pieces is great! And you could buy a small compression sack for this piece to make it pack even smaller. Of course never leave it compressed for long periods of time. It can ruin the integrity of the piece. Same goes for any sleeping bag, blanket etc.. I think kifaru used to make a similar piece of gear? Not sure they still do?.. Helikon has always made quality gear. Hike on!
I've had one for almost a year and a half, indeed, it's too narrow for me, the head hole is small and the hood is tight on my head like a balaclava. It's quite a bit smaller than a usgi poncho/poncho liner, so it puckers up the poncho when toggled...and on that note, it only attaches on the corners, not the middle of the edges. All that said, this is very good quality materials and workmanship, it could've been an awesome next gen poncho liner, they just didn't quite make it to the finish line...not for full grown adults anyway. I gave it to my daughter...she loves it.
My huge pumpkin head that would be an expensive hat.
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same
a big head and a small hole can be a problem....that’s what she said 🤣😂 just can’t help it...that kinda stuff has cracked me up for 50 years and will most likely continue my entire life
They have newer versions where it seems they increased the head hole and hood size that was always my biggest issue with it. I see the idea of having a smaller hood as when combined with a wet weather poncho you don't want it being larger then the poncho hood.
Going to piggyback off the pinned comment. That front pouch can double as a stuff sack for a more compact pack.
Back in 1985 as an active duty Marine I fell in love the military poncho liner, aka "woobie" this thing is a woobie on steroids and has replaced my beloved woobie in my gear list. The price is a bit high for me but with the quality it's a "buy once, cry once" type of item, very durable in the use I have put it through.
I used the poncho liner as well but twenty year’s later, I also wish I had one of these when I served 😀. But it shows the simplest things stand the test of time.
The WOOBIE can't be replaced.
I had my mom sew a zipper on mine. It. Was perfect for them walk light freeze at night.
I was watching a fantastic BBC documentary called “Once upon a time in Iraq “. I saw several middle aged men/veterans talking about their experiences! All of a sudden I realised I’m one of those middle aged guys ! I just can’t bring myself to call me a veteran! Surely I can’t have gotten that old so quickly ?
I was in 1st. Mar Div C Co. 1/1 89'-91' I just recently heard the term "Woobie" referring to a Poncho Liner. I don't EVER remember hearing that word back then because I surely would remember it.
@@Hndsomdevl1 don't know if the the Marines call them that or not. In the Army I know we did. 1995-2008 11c high angle hell
I think the Thirty degrees was a misunderstanding. The reviewer was reading the laundry instructions but didn't realise it, ie it should be washed at 30°c which is a cool wash in a washing machine in Europe.
Not joking.
You can tuck the hood in the chest pocket for the sleeping bag configuration thats what the velcrobis for. You can also pack the entire bag into a zip chest pocket, making it self containing.
I use the swagman roll myself into ~43°F and i am comfortable as long as I add a fleece hat, thermal base-layer and wool socks. I like sleeping feeling a little cool rather than warm.
Edit: for fit i am 6'1", athletic build with a 43 inch chest and wider than average shoulders, i have enough room to sleep fine, but i think im at that "comfort limit". Just tested the head hole, you can make a fist and put your head and fist through the hole and still put it through without feeling like the hole is small. I wear a size 7 ¼ hat.
Dave Canterbury is a brand ambassador for Helikon and he fully endorses the Swagman Roll along with some of his fellow instructors at the Pathfinder school, (Josh Enyart, Shawn Kelly). So if you're an owner of this bag you're in very good company.
Designed by Pawel Supernat - former polish special unit soldier (JWK), a survivalist and survival school owner. ruclips.net/user/survivaltechtv
@@NorbertPetrich Survival Tech designs some of Helikons very best stuff, chiefly in the Bushcraft Line
Of course he is so buy it sucker 😂😂😂😂😂
Tested mine about two weeks ago. It got down to freezing. I was wearing a pair of flannel lined pants and shirt. Watching the thermometer I was comfortable to around 39 degrees. I didn't set a fire and was using my poncho as a tarp with a Walmart blue mat as a ground pad.
After 39 degrees I pulled out my GI wool blanket and slept the rest of the night, but as mentioned I was wearing flannel lined clothes. Walmart grade here folks. Just a set I wear at work NOT my good "go to the woods" clothes.
One, if not the best piece of equipment I've purchased in 2019, its always in my pack from fall to spring.
any other pieces of equipment you'd recommend?
@Norse Woodman appreciate your insight, but my question was actually for clint.
I've spent well-over 6,000 grand on gear in the last 2 years. Tents, pack(s), clothing, knifes etc. Been a hunter, fisherman, camper, hiker, woodsman for most of my life. The swagman roll, for me at least, is a great piece of kit, for me. Once its cooler outside, I carry it and use it allot. I use it to replace a jacket, I've slept in it and under it, again, it works for me. I'm 6'1 225lbs, sure, as Luke said, it can be a little tight in sleeping bag mode, hood yes a bit tight, but I like it, i look at it as a backup to several items, for a what if....
@Norse Woodman bro, if you don't like it, cool. I'm not gonna go back and forth over the swagman. Good lord.
@@Gutterfighting "I've spent well-over 6,000 grand on gear in the last 2 years."
Was your expedition to the arctic, Antarctica, or Everest?
The zippered chest pocket is a storage option as well. With the face down, flatten out into Blanket Mode. Stow away the Hood into the Hood Pocket. Fold the Roll in on itself so it assumes the rough shape of the chest pocket. Flip over to face up. Reach inside the chest pocket to a deep corner and grip all of the layered material. Gently Pull the roll into the pocket, Close the Zipper. It takes some stuffing and adjusting but it saves a lot of space, compared to the normal storage bag. Could also be used as a pillow or seat cushion.
I have a Swagman Roll, since Spring 2019. It´s one of the Best equiptment you can buy. BUT- I wish they produce a larger Version for bigger people, with wider shoulders. To use it as a sleeping bag, its a little bit to tight for me.
Swagman roll is a piece of equipment for emergencies, it's not a deticated sleepimg bag which those aren't either as biig as our beds at home, it's a multitool that has to be easy to carry (lightweight and small). It's designed to perfection, that's why Luke said, that all people who knows love it and none has any issue with it!!
@@greekveteran2715 bigger persons idea of small and light weight is a bit different from small dweebie people.
@@MrMigido You're right Mr Migido! Have a nice evening!
Hi Luke. Hello Everyone. FYI For the Helikon-Tex Swagman Roll to keep a person warn below 50 degrees you need to use the military poncho WITH the Swagman Roll. I am slowly rebuilding my shelter kit and I bought a Swagman Roll and military poncho from Helikon-Tex back in 1999 after watching review from others and I was able to stay warm in the LOW 40's to the high 30's with the Swagman Roll and military poncho (USED TOGETHER.) Using the two together is the only way I have ever used the set. GREAT KIT AND GREAT VIDEO.
I'm 5'9" and 160#. The swagman roll has proven to be excellent! I use it as the poncho (liner), blanket and sleeping bag. Have not used it as a hammock under quilt, but the corner toggles and the buckle straps seem they would make that use pretty easy. I operate in the desert, so the insulation is often adequate for my needs. I sometimes supplement the swagman roll with a woobie or wool blanket. All in all, a great piece of gear!
Just got my first swagman roll,I like the breathable aspect of it as I’m moving.Im a big guy,310 lbs,and it offers me a lot of mobility of movement.Good purchase.
I’ve seen them used as a shelter set up and you can fill them with leaves for a bedding it’s definitely versatile
A great Review! I Love my Swagman Roll. The dimensions are such that when used as a poncho liner the poncho covers it completely, thus if it was any wider the toggles wouldn't line up with the grommets on a poncho. I have wide shoulders so zipping it up is out of the question so I use it as a quilt, I create a foot box (using the zipper) and have used mine down to around 50 degrees comfortably (colder with a reflector fire and tarp). When the temperatures dip below 50 to in the upper 30's proper sleepwear and a wobbie to sleep on and I can stay comfortable. If you don't want to use the stuff sack, you can stuff it into it's kangaroo pocket. When hammock camping with an under quilt and this as an over quilt I stay comfortable into the 50s.
Excellent comment about lining up with the grommets on a military poncho.
When they make a larger bag, I'll consider one.
Just get a bigger bag, Walmart has cheap waterproof ones
I am impressed with the product description, but I am even MORE impressed with your objective review on this and other products. Thank you, for you are doing a legitimate service for camping enthusiasts, unlike too many other RUclips.
I've read all the replies B4 composing mine.
I first heard about & saw Corporal's Corner use & review of The Swagman's Roll. In my opinion, this is a MUST HAVE for that just in case moment when in a vehicle. For myself, I would most likely use it as a very heavy Poncho, however, I already have an Arcturus Poncho that weighs only 11oz & comes down to the top of my ankles. I doubt I'd ever use it as something to sleep in.. I, too, have heard nothing but GOOD THINGS others have said about the Swagman's Roll
I've watched a lot of guys wearing/using it and swearing by it. But having it on or waking up under didn't help me much. This is the first in-depth review that I've seen. Thanks for the information. I'm definitely getting this now for my winter go bag.
Enjoy your straight forward, fair, no BS reviews. Would like to see the Swagman deployed as an under quilt .
This is the "Oh No she is snoring again" bag for the sofa. It works, had one since Jan 19 still looks new after numerous washes. Downside, the dog loves it too. Agree the real downside is the width but at 6'3'' its still works for me, just. I have also used it with my Snugpak Elite 3 to add a season last winter. Never feels damp, big bonus in Britain. Keep up the awesome reviews.
I have had mine for about 2 years now and love it works well as a blanket, poncho liner. I use it in the hammock in the summer and a blanket in the house in the winter it usually rides in my pack as an extra layer just in case.
Love my swagman roll. Your review is spot on, including the Cons. When I go bivy and swagman, I just wear the swagman in poncho mode and then get into the bivy. Works best for me.
I own one of these, and they are great for some things. I primarily use it as a wind breaker and top layer while doing landscape photography at higher elevations. Also a travel blanket for warmer temperatures. At 6'2' and heavier set the sleeping bag config is useless for me, but as a underquilt on a hammock it does well. As something becomes more multi functional it has to sacrifice in places... I think they balanced it pretty well :D Thanks so much for all your hard work and amazing reviews!
I know the other channel that took it down to around freezing, he did it with a tarp and fire not as a stand alone bit of gear. But your honest review is greatly appreciated.
I picked one up in a giveaway on instagram from a tactical page last summer its a great piece and didnt cost a dime.
I’m a hammock camper. I would like to see and hear how it works as a under quilt. Really enjoy your channel.
Agree
You can cinch both sides and use the poncho loops to string it to your hammock. You'd need to buy some shock cord. Can't tell you how warm it would be though.
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Seems to me it'd be more usefull as an extra layer to add to your existing underquilt when needed rather than relying on it on it's own. Though I guess it might be good in warmer climates.
I have had make from it an envelope with holes on both sides and used it as coccon on my hammock. Worked very well.
Luke, I have 2 of the Swagman rolls.... they are super value due to the fact they are multi use item. I use one of mine as an under-quilt for my hammock, I didn't see a demonstration of that. I added about 4 foot of shock cord and a small carabiner, between the built in cinch cords, on each end for quick deployment as a under-quilt. The other one is for multi function use - quilt, poncho liner, blanket, sleeping bag liner, cool morning or evening fireside wrap. I could still use them both for all purposes, but kind of dedicated one for the under-quilt, for ease. Really good piece of kit!
6:45 Great review Luke, you don't miss a thing. God bless you and your family!
I have Helikon BDU pants made approx. 17 years ago. They've made tremendous progress through the years. Glad you like the Swagman Roll.
Used it in 10-20 degree weather as a blanket in a sleeping bag and poncho for morning coffee around the fire. Love it.
It reminds me a lot about the Jerven Fjellduken Hunter, that I've mentioned before, although that one is slightly different. It's 40 inches in sleeping bag mode, instead of the 29 inches. It also comes in King Size. These considerations also comes at a premium. However the differences, these tools are universally treasured and it's cool to see.
Everyone should own one of these. If not for emergency reasons in your truck, then at least for having a cheaper entry into the 4 season. Combine it with a 3 season bag, and you're ready for the wonder of cowboy camping in the snow. It's something completely different to wake up covered in white snow all around and no shelter. I hope everyone can experience that, at least once.
I've looked at this a few times over the past couple years. Still can't make myself pull the trigger and the price keeps going up. I do appreciate you taking a look at it for us. Thanks, Luke.
This is a purchase you WILL NOT regret.
I'm with you. I like the idea of owning a swagman roll but it packs like a sleeping bag size anyway so why take a chance of having a cold night, and I already have the helikon poncho which packs small. Wearing the swagman roll as a poncho looks like a sweaty experience if you are on the move. I fear that it would do everything, but nothing well enough. Am I wrong?
Bought one in the pencott camo. It is superb. Love the multi use. As poncho in the day/evening then as quilt in hammock. Have used it down to 0c in uk in hammock with Snugpak cocoon. And in bivy bag with snugpak jungle blanket. Again down to 0c. Plenty warm enough. The multi function combined with jungle bag small pack size and weight is great. Thanks for the detailed review. It’s what made me get one and so glad I did. I will never go out without it.
I love mine. Sleep with it at home too. The outer is also windproof and that makes a big difference for a cheeky afternoon outdoor nap. It's good at transferring out moisture so the dog likes to sleep under it when she's just had a bath. I'm a bit big to use it in sleep bag mode but it functions just fine as a top quilt zipped up with a foot box. I haven't tried it as a hammock underquilt. It does stuff down into the reversible front pocket and it makes an acceptable cushion in that config too. When the weather's a bit cold I use an old wobbie inside the swagman. I'd love it if somebody made a plus sized version with poncho - I'd buy that and give this one to my wife. I know outdoor innovations does something a bit similar in huge sizes, but them prices.
Thank you Luke, I appreciate your honesty. I intended to buy one of these, but because it was out of stock I didn't have a chance, guess it was a boon instead. I have Enormous shoulders and a huge head, think human pitbull, lol. I also had planned on using it for cold weather hunting, around 30 degrees or lower, so I'm afraid it is not going to work for me. I think I will try to make a custom Cagoule instead.
You kept me from regretting it Mr. Luke, I thank you.
I use mine as an over quilt. I love it.
I’m a bigger bloke, so I don’t think that product would be good for me. I appreciate your honest reviews. Great video mate. Keep‘em coming.
I have had one for about a year and a half and agree with everything you said, have slept out in the hammock with this as a top quilt to about 50F and it was perfect as a poncho liner its great and I keep it in the car when we go to fall soccer or sports and the kids have used it while spectating to keep warm or as a ground cloth. I like to bring it on winter hikes as another layer , ground cloth or pto use with the ponch when it just a raw rainy day. I would definitely recommend it to other.s
Everyone crowing "they're out of stock!" -- go look at Helikon-Tex's webstore. Not their USA webstore, their Polish one. It's in stock there and will ship from Poland, so it'll take a bit, but they have them in stock there. Took me maybe a week to get it.
refutonefandus I bought mine from their Poland store too. It was a lot for shipping from Poland to the USA but I got the color I wanted and did not have to endure the agony of out of stock, out of stock, at every store I shopped at just trying to find a place that had the swagman in stock. They are good ponchos, sleeping bags, whatever you want to call it. I like mine a lot!
I'm using it for few years and I just love it. Absolutely no issues. And yes, it's tight as a sleeping bag, works great as an under blanket for the hammock. Very versatile. I totally recommend it.
Honestly the sleeping bag aspect is the least useful. If I was to use this as an impromptu shelter I would wear it as a poncho liner underneath a water proof poncho and sleep leaning against a tree so you have the least contact with the ground sapping away heat. It wouldn't be comfortable but would keep you more dry in rainy weather then lying on the wet ground.
Wiggy's insulated poncho for $95 is pretty similar. Lamilite\Climashield insulated poncho with a hood. I've had mine for years.
Works great as a summer quilt. Also good to put on the top of down in the winter to move the frost to the Climashield and away from the down. Also good for an emergency ditch bag on paddle trips to warm up if you've taken an unplanned swim.
For that matter, it works great on the couch. :)
To get below 50 F, skip the zipper and use it as a quilt doubled on top of you. Your sleeping pad should be providing the insulation under you.
You can also buckle it up first behind you and then in front of you which will give you a ”tighter” poncho.
I love mine! I use it all the time when I can it is an awesome piece of kit when hiking in the PNW
Had my eye on this thing for a while, and glad to finally see your review of it. I knew a lot of the info already, but as usual you covered some of the things you just can’t know by looking at pics or certain videos. Excellent review as always, and this video helped me make up my mind on whether to purchase it or not. Keep up the great work
Helikon is one of those brands where you see the price tag and hesitate for ages to get it, but once you do you don't regret it.
I loved my Swagman, but at 6' and over 300lbs it was useless as a bag and barely covered me as a blanket. So I "upgraded" to the Hill People Gear Mountain Serape, but I miss the grommet toggles, chest pouch, and buckle system on the Swagman. If Helikon-Tex came out with an XL version, I'd definitely switch back. Great, comprehensive review as always!
So glad you like it. It is a bit small for me...my sleeping bags are 33 inches for me to be comfortable. But happy you think its a good product.
Ponchos are great for when you're hiking with a pack and getting a sweat on in foul weather as they're much more breathable that having a gortex jacket on especially if you run hot.
Nice review Sir, and you're correct in saying the neck and head space needs to be a lot bigger, Helikon Tex take note.
Nothing better then waking up in the morning and chucking this on, it's great when sitting as it covers your legs. With a fire nearby and some warm clothes your golden. I agree for very cold weather it's not suitable as a standalone sleep system but I often find I can combine it fairly well with my current sleep system just by adding it ontop of my sleeping bag as a blanket for added insulation but I would not rely on it for extreme weather it's always an addon an extra comfort item it should not be seen as something to replace a dedicated piece of cold weather kit.
Your channel is awesome Luke. I really appreciate you and the thorough reviews. Putting out great vibes man!
Huge fan and follower from over the pond. Purchased this following your review. I have used it a lot. In all modes. Mostly poncho sitting around camp in the evening and morning. Great extra if temperature drops in the night over or in sleeping bag. Agree it is a little snug but great as blanket. As a summer/autumn under quilt for hammock it is superb. So versatile. I rarely go out out overnight without it. 👍🏼
Thanks for the review! This is one item that's been on my radar but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I wonder if used as an inner liner for a sleeping bag if it would help out the R rating on say a 40F bag. I've actually seen Corporal Kelly use this as a low shelter tarp too.
I’ve been interested in this product ever since I saw Dave Canterbury use one. However, I decided to wait for you to do a review of it. With cold weather coming I will put it Spring gear wish list.
Thanks. I used this video and the comments to work out if my swagman roll would be suitable for the temps I would experience on a recent overnight hike and it worked out fine. Got down to 12C / 50F and I was warm in my hammock with a 20F underquilt and decent clothing (no puffy jacket).
This is a review that I've been waiting for a long time. This product seems to be just as good if not even better than I was expecting it to be. Helikon-Tex is really upping their ante, kudos to them.
I’ve had one for the past year and it works well as a poncho, under blanket and quilt. It really needs to be wider in sleeping bag mode - I’d say 37 to 39 inches wide because of my broad shoulders and chest. Otherwise sleeping bag mode makes me feel like sausage meat in a casing and difficult to get out of quickly. It would also be nice if Helikon-Tex made it with 100 gram/square meter Climashield Apex rather than the 67 gram / square meter stuff.
As it stands, the Swagman roll is adequate for 3 season use. For 4 season use I use Varusteleka’s Thermal Cloak, available in uninsulated, 67 gram/ square meter Climashield(what I have), and 100 gram/ square meter versions. It works better than the Swagman roll as a sleeping bag (more width) and as a overbag with a regular sleeping bag inside. It is pricey, but for me, worth it. The Thermal Cloak and Carinthia’s Defence 4 sleeping bag keep me comfortable to -30 C (-22 F) on a good R factor sleeping pad.
Good review, Luke, thank you.
That looks really nice. I just got a delivery this morning from Amazon, a Snugpak Jungle Blanket XL. My new 'woobie'. I can use it as an underquilt for my hammock with tarp clips. The Swagman Roll makes me wish it could have a poncho mode, too.
I have both and often use them together, works real well.
I completely agree on temp rating. I used a queen size Alpaca blanket and slept comfortably in a two man tent in 13 F weather. I used it I quilt mode with zipped three quarters up. Next time I try this I will pin up the blanket though.
I purchased the swagman roll earlier this year, really happy with the performance. kept me warm on a breezy evening.
Thank you so much, I am 183cm tall and about 90kg. Was seriously looking at getting this and now I have realised I am going to be to claustrophobic in it. I also have a massive and I mean massive head, 59cm. I need a special ordered Kevlar helmet.
I have 2 of them and we love it. My wife took my first one and I had to get a second one. Awesome product. I agree a bit bigger would be great.
I've been thinking about purchasing one.
Thanks Luke for helping me make the right decision.👍
I haven't tried the Swagman Roll, but I do have a number of different items from Helikon-Tex and all of them are outstanding...
Excellent show as always.Your honest reviews on products is such a good research site,and you tell it like it is Thanks!
I love mine. I have 1/4 zipped mine and used it as a top quit in my hammock.
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Thanks for the review. I have seen this product on another channel and I'm glad to see your report! Keep up your reviews and adventures!
love my swagman, take it with me on all my camping trips.
Love mine. It’s great for the UK summer and I use mine in my hammock as a liner.
Great for my car in my bug out bag.
I have their poncho but it leaks. I have their rucksack to.
Good kit.
I have one of these, and used it on a 10 day trip on the Jura here in Switzerland this past summer. I usually carry my poncho liner, or my Kifaru Woobie. But I liked it. I didn't zip it up. I cant fit inside of it. It's too slim for my body size. So I just zip up the feet, and cover myself with the rest. Over all, a great product.
I have a big head(size 62) and had no problem fitting it trough the hold AND i have long hair which adds to the size of my head.
I like the fact it is multi functional. I was thinking on 30 degree weather that one could put this in a sleeping bag. Not only is it a poncho liner but it is also a sleeping bag liner.
I have two of these. Nice, but the hood comes to point, making me look like a garden gnome. Wilderness Innovation has a better hood on their Osni poncho liner.
I don't use it as a sleeping bag, but as a quilt. Works well in Colorado down to 50deg or so, with adequate insulation underneath.
My solution for the tightness of the swagman roll is to raise the zipper only halfway, leaving the upper half open and put the zipper under me (inside my bivy bag), that is, I use it as a quilt
That's a great idea
Bought one when they first came out. Versatile piece of kit. Great to have in my SAR pack. Helikon makes some very impressive gear.
I just ordered my second one this time in US woodland. the old one is flecktarn and it works great with my main poncho the wilderness innovations hammock poncho.
Helikon-Tex certainly needs to make an XL or larger version of the Swagman Roll, this one is way to small for my 6'5" 235lb frame😒 Tried it last year and gave it to my grandson, it's too small for him also at 6'4" 180lbs🙄 This has some nice features, too bad we can't use it. So goes the luck with being in the "Tall" guys crowd🤔 Another honest and reliable review, thanks Luke👍
Outstanding bought mine last week in flectarn. Helikon tex best bang for your buck for me. Love thier products.
Great review, Luke. I love Helikon Tex products and the Swagman Roll is without a doubt my favorite. This and the HT Poncho, in a camo pattern, have replaced my aged and beloved military poncho and woobie. I cowboy camp a lot (stealth camping) and using a 5X7ft camo tarp as my shelter; total weight at 3.7lbs. My mattress is a debris stuffed 55gl contractor bag. When the temperatures dropped into the low 40's I would take a SnugPak jungle blanket or my woobie to supplement my bedroll. At times the set up was a little too warm and had to shed the blanket. I am a large framed guy and weigh 225 and cannot use the roll as a sleeping bag but just pull the poncho and Swagman (as I lay on one side of it) over me like a blanket. The poncho helps to keep the moisture or morning dew from dampening the roll and to keep the "hawk" or wind from penetrating the bedroll. That was cool learning that this material was used in horse blankets...thanks! I ordered a Helikon Tex Patriot fleece jacket and some of their clothing to replace my old LAPG stuff; HT quality is incredible. Walmart should take note!
Great review, as allways spot on! 👍
I've been using the Swagman Role for well over a year now.
It lives in the bottom of my backpack and comes along on all hikes.
At night I use it as a quilt in combination with an insulated sleeping pad since it is indeed too narrow to fit my shoulder.
The lowest I've tried sofar is 12c (54F) and it kept me nice and warm. At lower temps I bring a dedicated 20F down quilt, that weighs about the same, but is much less flexible!
Been trying to purchase a second Swagman Roll for the car winter emergency kit, but they are out of stock.
I wonder how much you can push its limits by just bringing an ultralight sleeping bag liner and a bivy. Silk liners and other liners usually are under 150g and they can keep you warmer. Ultralight bivys share the same caracteristics, in addition to bring waterproofness.
You could also wear thermal undreclothing. That's be so interesting to see. Bivy + liner + thermal clothing and add a head bugnet... You'd be able to put the liner and the bivy in your pocket. A whole sleep system without a bag.
@@greg5478 My experience is that the colder it gets, the less useful the 'multiuse' feature of the Swagman becomes, since you are likely to bring a dedicated warm Jacket anyway.
For emergencies in Spring/Fall you could combine the swagman with an energency mylar blanket.
I've splurged on a Jerven Bag Exclusive with a warm liner since. It has become my emergency companion for winter. The Swagman now spends much time in the trunk of my car.
I use mine as a quilt. I just zip it up to the first buckle to make a foot box and sleep on top of a sleeping pad. I supplement it with a down throw in colder temps.
Saw this on corporals corner. As a 6 foot broad shouldered 220 pound man it is definitly restrictive in sleeping bag mode. If I keep my arms out of it I am comfortable in any position. With my arms and shoulders in it it will work but barely. It is pretty darn tight but in a pinch if you need to stay warm it will do the trick
I bought one and so far i like it. One thing i will say in the sleeping bag configuration you better not be a very broad feller. Its a tight fit for me its nice but about another inch or 2 of material would have been nice. In an emergency its better than nothing, but if your very wide in the shoulder area just a heads up just use it as a blanket . He is spot on innthe video about the sleeping bag mode.
Yes helikon Tex is a great company. I’ve been using there stuff for over 5 years now. Great quality great prices.
Hey Luke...love your channel! I have an alternate suggestion I believe as good and I'm not sure you have tested yet. It's the One Tigris ROC Poncho Sleeping Bag for $72.98 on Amazon. It seems to be almost the same. Not that many reviews on it.
I have the One Tigris equivalent, which only zips on one side, but is designed so it can be used as a hammock under-blanket as well as a sleeping bag.
Helikon swagman roll, foxtrot mk2, pencott wildwood windbreaker, numbat. My favorite pieces of gear.
I always appreciate your gear reviews. They are very thorough and informative. So thanks for your research and hard work. Ooogh Rah!
Thankyou for outstanding demonstration of swagman roll.
Thanks for the review Luke; It seems to have a lot of uses and probably worth the money just for that. Mabe warmer as a quilt with a good ground pad.
Just got mine last week. I've used it 3 times, and I love it.
I agree the head hole/opening is a little tight. I have a thick neck. Otherwise, this is a great piece of kit. I use it most as an additional piece of insolation in my sleep system and as a poncho in the early mornings as I start the day.
After you wash it a few times it is just a little warmer.
Thanks for the review. Yep, with your cons, I'll stick with a plain GI poncho liner. For 90% of what I'd use it for, I have a big "jedi" style terrycloth robe that can do the same thing at similar size and weight. Yes, with a different set of cons.
We have thermarest Honcho Ponchos/blanket for when we camp in Autumn and early spring when weather can still be chilly, making it cold inside the tent. These are a brilliant idea. No doubt the Helikons are just as good.
Awesome review Luke! I think this paired with the helikon tex rain poncho its perfect for summer time use or as a minimalist bugout bag sleep system. For the warmer months unless you have really good insulation layers. The weight and packability of both pieces is great! And you could buy a small compression sack for this piece to make it pack even smaller. Of course never leave it compressed for long periods of time. It can ruin the integrity of the piece. Same goes for any sleeping bag, blanket etc.. I think kifaru used to make a similar piece of gear? Not sure they still do?.. Helikon has always made quality gear. Hike on!
Outstanding piece of equipment...thanks for the review...
I've had one for almost a year and a half, indeed, it's too narrow for me, the head hole is small and the hood is tight on my head like a balaclava. It's quite a bit smaller than a usgi poncho/poncho liner, so it puckers up the poncho when toggled...and on that note, it only attaches on the corners, not the middle of the edges.
All that said, this is very good quality materials and workmanship, it could've been an awesome next gen poncho liner, they just didn't quite make it to the finish line...not for full grown adults anyway.
I gave it to my daughter...she loves it.
Thank you, Most honest review of this product.
Think it would be a good item for a get home bag