I get the concept of the highly protective cover, even if it adds a lot of weight. Think student backpack. You're on your way to or from class, and you toss the thing in with three, heavy college textbooks. The device needs protection for people who carry it around jumbled-in with other things. Nevertheless, I concede there should probably be a lighter cover, which only protects the screen, for those who don't need the extra armor. However, I think I see where they were coming from.
Wow, that is a great review (including the other 2 parts)! Seeing what happens when the files are exported is awesome. And I really like the way the handwriting recognition works (locally and in performance); the lines thing helps to have a flow like a continuing text and your example of editing on the text is great that seemed so intuitive. For a first, Kobo does a good job. That needs improvement but it's good. I'm gonna test it in store to feel the pen who seems to be a big point of personal preference. The price is still too high, so hopefully they'll propose a pack without the case in a few months (and in the future a 7 inch one, maybe?).
Thanks for your review. I preordered kobo elipsa weeks ago, after watched your video I decided to canceled it since its terrible writing experience and turned to boox note air
Thanks for your woderful reviewing work! could you do a comparsion between the kobo, the remarkable2 and the boox? I really can't decide which one to buy to study
Thank you :) Maybe I'll be able to make that video, but at the moment I can't because my priority is physiotherapy and recovery from a shoulder injury, so my capacity for deeper comparisons and bigger videos is limited until I fully recover, which will take weeks.
That calculator function is so FREAKING cool! I cant believe it handled that complex equation. I wish they made just a E-Ink Calculator. Its extrememly time consuming writing in a calculator but handwritting makes it so fast! I am tempted to get it just as a calculator but its too expensive just for that. Can it handle logarithims?
Nope, no other ePaper devices that I've tested have anything even close to this, and yeah, typing out such complex calculations on a regular calculator is much more tedious, when compared to regular math writing. I am going to test out where the limits are, so equations, functions, logs, trigonometry etc, because I am very curious about it. It has unparalleled real world use value.
@@MyDeepGuide Just thought of a work around. Maybe you can just get an android app for 'handwritten calculations'. I will give it a try once I get my Onyx boox note. thanks so much for your help!
Great 3 part series. Stil deciding on the remarkable 2 and this. I had the scribe and it was half ass and half baked so i returned it. Question: how much have Kobo addressed these issues that you have listed?
I had such high hopes that this was the reader and note taker for me. But the writing quirks, and oddities with notes on the desktop side make it a disappointment. Seems like they have a vision but maybe rushed it out the door. I’m not sure Kobo will release feature/fix updates at the rate of Remarkable to address these issues. So I will wait again. I’m so heavily invested in Kindle books that I dream of notetaking on that platform. Any rumors of that coming?
Great review Voja. Hopefully Kobo will watch this video and resolve the issues you have addressed. One question: does the text conversion only work when writing in english or does it work for any language (and equally well)?
@@MyDeepGuide Thanks, I did just contact Kobo and they said that handwriting conversion is supported for all languages listed on the technical specs at us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-elipsa. So these languages should be supported: English, French, French (Canada), German, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico), Italian, Catalan, Portuguese, Portuguese (Brazil), Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Turkish, Japanese, Traditional Chinese.
Hello Voja, thanks for the rewiew. Can you please confirm if the "insert free form area" work effectively like a "infinite canvas" or have some space limitation? Because this would be a game changer feature for me... thank you.
Excellent review. Couple questions (please understand I’m a newbie) 1 I have the Sony Digital Paper System DPT-S1 with hundreds of handwritten PDF notes. I would love to be able to transfer them to the Elipsa and open them in the “advanced handwriting” app and convert them to text but it doesn’t look possible according to your review. Can you recommend a software program that could do this for me? 2 I want o create a customized template for a daily diary(dream diary) that would allow me give a Title to the daily entry and then turn selected titles into a clickable table of contents so that I could toggle back and forth to those particular entries. Could you recommend a software program I could use to create such a template? (Also, anyone here willing to create such a template for me, I would be willing to pay) My Deep Guild or anyone reading along… please?
Hi Voja! A very interesting observation concerning strokes update in the D.E.S.T.A. test. I'm wondering, could it be due to the technology chosen - no Wacom layer, but via usual capacitive layer? I wanted to check this hypothesis in Likebook P10 review video, but I didn't find D.E.S.T.A. footage there. So, can you comment on this matter - is my assumption just flatly false or there is some grain of a reason?
No, it's not the case, since Quirklogic Papyr also uses an active stylus and has no Wacom layer, and there you don't have that kind of behavior. Their chunks are simply too big.
I've wanted a 10" or proper hard back book sized reader for a while. The notes side is disappointing but I prefer my fountain pens and paper anyway. I have an Aura One so this seems a logical choice but as a reader, would P10 be a better fit?
52:16 Am I correct in assuming that mathematical formulae don't show up (for example as LaTeX code) when converting handwriting containing such formulae to simple .txt files?
If you check the Pen chapter in the part 1, you'll see that unfortunately that's not possible, they Are using a different standard, but I'll test it out to see if it's possible to make it fit somehow.
Thank you for your hard work on each of your videos. You deserve many more subscribers and views. my best wishes. greetings from Ecuador.
This thing has so much promise, I hope they work hard on firmware updates.
Price kills it on price.
I use nebo on my ipad. Glad to see my script on the kobo device.
Really deep dive, love the D.E.S.T.A testing and footage, thank you so much!
Oh man, the comments about the cover were hilarious 😂😂😂
Thank you sooo much for these reviews btw!!!!
I get the concept of the highly protective cover, even if it adds a lot of weight. Think student backpack. You're on your way to or from class, and you toss the thing in with three, heavy college textbooks. The device needs protection for people who carry it around jumbled-in with other things. Nevertheless, I concede there should probably be a lighter cover, which only protects the screen, for those who don't need the extra armor. However, I think I see where they were coming from.
That is hilarious about the cover. But I like the color, especially since I just cancelled my R1 Reinkstone pledge!
Wow, that is a great review (including the other 2 parts)! Seeing what happens when the files are exported is awesome. And I really like the way the handwriting recognition works (locally and in performance); the lines thing helps to have a flow like a continuing text and your example of editing on the text is great that seemed so intuitive. For a first, Kobo does a good job. That needs improvement but it's good. I'm gonna test it in store to feel the pen who seems to be a big point of personal preference. The price is still too high, so hopefully they'll propose a pack without the case in a few months (and in the future a 7 inch one, maybe?).
Thank you for this review. With firmware updates there is hope that Kobo Elipsa will stand out. I am beginning to love it.
Thanks for your review. I preordered kobo elipsa weeks ago, after watched your video I decided to canceled it since its terrible writing experience and turned to boox note air
Thank you, Voja!
The cover section is so funny that I watched it 3 times. :D
Heheheh, maybe I should rewatch it as well :)
Thanks for your woderful reviewing work! could you do a comparsion between the kobo, the remarkable2 and the boox? I really can't decide which one to buy to study
Thank you :) Maybe I'll be able to make that video, but at the moment I can't because my priority is physiotherapy and recovery from a shoulder injury, so my capacity for deeper comparisons and bigger videos is limited until I fully recover, which will take weeks.
@@MyDeepGuide thank you very much for the answer! I hope you get well soon. Best wishes on your fast recovery ^^
That calculator function is so FREAKING cool! I cant believe it handled that complex equation. I wish they made just a E-Ink Calculator. Its extrememly time consuming writing in a calculator but handwritting makes it so fast! I am tempted to get it just as a calculator but its too expensive just for that. Can it handle logarithims?
PS do any other devices you know of have the calculation function like this?
Nope, no other ePaper devices that I've tested have anything even close to this, and yeah, typing out such complex calculations on a regular calculator is much more tedious, when compared to regular math writing.
I am going to test out where the limits are, so equations, functions, logs, trigonometry etc, because I am very curious about it. It has unparalleled real world use value.
@@MyDeepGuide completely agree!
@@MyDeepGuide Just thought of a work around. Maybe you can just get an android app for 'handwritten calculations'. I will give it a try once I get my Onyx boox note. thanks so much for your help!
My pleasure :)
Great 3 part series. Stil deciding on the remarkable 2 and this. I had the scribe and it was half ass and half baked so i returned it.
Question: how much have Kobo addressed these issues that you have listed?
I have a follow up video on my channel, just look at the Kobo Elipsa playlist, but in short, almost nothing.
Can we integrate this device with a physical keyboard via Bluetooth for typing notes?
Fantástico a explicar, claro e objetivo 👍
I had such high hopes that this was the reader and note taker for me. But the writing quirks, and oddities with notes on the desktop side make it a disappointment. Seems like they have a vision but maybe rushed it out the door. I’m not sure Kobo will release feature/fix updates at the rate of Remarkable to address these issues. So I will wait again. I’m so heavily invested in Kindle books that I dream of notetaking on that platform. Any rumors of that coming?
Couldn’t you import your template as a PDF to test the latency?
Latency has been tested and documented. That's the DESTA test.
Damn, and I thought some of my vids were too long lol I love it though. Awesome review
Thank you :) Glad you liked it :)
Great review Voja. Hopefully Kobo will watch this video and resolve the issues you have addressed. One question: does the text conversion only work when writing in english or does it work for any language (and equally well)?
I haven't tested other languages yet. It would be a good idea to ask Rakuten Kobo directly for the most up to date info on that feature.
@@MyDeepGuide Thanks, I did just contact Kobo and they said that handwriting conversion is supported for all languages listed on the technical specs at us.kobobooks.com/products/kobo-elipsa. So these languages should be supported: English, French, French (Canada), German, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico), Italian, Catalan, Portuguese, Portuguese (Brazil), Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Turkish, Japanese, Traditional Chinese.
Fantastic news and thank you very much for sharing! :)
Hello Voja, thanks for the rewiew. Can you please confirm if the "insert free form area" work effectively like a "infinite canvas" or have some space limitation? Because this would be a game changer feature for me... thank you.
Excellent review. Couple questions (please understand I’m a newbie)
1 I have the Sony Digital Paper System DPT-S1 with hundreds of handwritten PDF notes. I would love to be able to transfer them to the Elipsa and open them in the “advanced handwriting” app and convert them to text but it doesn’t look possible according to your review. Can you recommend a software program that could do this for me?
2 I want o create a customized template for a daily diary(dream diary) that would allow me give a Title to the daily entry and then turn selected titles into a clickable table of contents so that I could toggle back and forth to those particular entries. Could you recommend a software program I could use to create such a template? (Also, anyone here willing to create such a template for me, I would be willing to pay)
My Deep Guild or anyone reading along… please?
Is the handwriting conversion is supported for Russian or Ukrainian languages?
No is posible right now. Mabe in the future i hope
Hi Voja! A very interesting observation concerning strokes update in the D.E.S.T.A. test. I'm wondering, could it be due to the technology chosen - no Wacom layer, but via usual capacitive layer? I wanted to check this hypothesis in Likebook P10 review video, but I didn't find D.E.S.T.A. footage there. So, can you comment on this matter - is my assumption just flatly false or there is some grain of a reason?
No, it's not the case, since Quirklogic Papyr also uses an active stylus and has no Wacom layer, and there you don't have that kind of behavior. Their chunks are simply too big.
@@MyDeepGuide Thanks for your reply! For whatever reason I was dead sure Quirklogic has a Wacom layer.
I've wanted a 10" or proper hard back book sized reader for a while. The notes side is disappointing but I prefer my fountain pens and paper anyway. I have an Aura One so this seems a logical choice but as a reader, would P10 be a better fit?
I have an indepth review of the P10 as well, so you can check it out and see which one would be a better fit for you :)
52:16 Am I correct in assuming that mathematical formulae don't show up (for example as LaTeX code) when converting handwriting containing such formulae to simple .txt files?
Txt file export is shown, so you can see in that example the converted results in the appropriate chapter.
Can you chuck a different nib in? So long as you are using the same pen it should work right? Such as the hp felt nib
If you check the Pen chapter in the part 1, you'll see that unfortunately that's not possible, they Are using a different standard, but I'll test it out to see if it's possible to make it fit somehow.