Here's that video from @drewskyschannel I mentioned: ruclips.net/video/_izB41gqJ14/видео.html&ab_channel=Drewsky Also do you guys want me to do more pvp stuff on this channel? lmk!
You know I ran into you in Trials. You mowed me down with some XIM/Chronus bullshit sidearm, but it felt good to add YOUR name to the list of victims my Lubrae's Ruin feasted on.
Each sidearm archetype is good in this archetype. Rapid not being popular because of there perk rolls. Many just don’t have good enough perks list for pvp.
John Rambo here. Saw this sidearm video pop up in my feed and had to check it out. I have 30k kills on my fools remedy now. I picked it up from iron banner one day and could never put it down. Been waiting forever for them to bring it back so I can get a better roll. My roll has iron grip and 100 stability. I think fools remedy also has the highest aim assist of the rapid fires. Thanks for the shout out!
Ayyy ggs. I matched you in trials quite a bit and you inspired me to try your build! I snagged quick flawless with it on Jav. Now that Mountaintop is coming back and they are un-nerfing the airborne effectiveness nerf, are u gonna use that over Witherhoard?
Yeah remedy is nuts with the right rolls don't waste time on damage perks sure they make your kills faster but if you focus your efforts on consistency the gun performs really well without damage perks. I found that pairing fools remedy with witherhoard and having as much handling and range as possible then you can just tag the enemy with the witherhoard damage wether it's direct hit or the ground doesn't matter it's just the damage bc one tick of witherhoard makes the rapid fire sidearms chew threw the rest of their health extremely fast. I've got somewhere between 10 and 15k kills on fools remedy and 3k kills on witherhoard 😅 but I haven't played PVP seriously in about 2 years bc of the state of crucible 😢😢
Now something I've been unable to get my hands on is punching out with harmony.... Get the witherhoard kill proc harmony get the harmony kill witherhoard reloads start over.... Sounds gimmicky tho.... There was an arc one of these from the season of plunder I can't recall the name for the life of me . But that one rolls with volt shot which in pve I think is my favorite way to play with the witherhoard combo since witherhoard is great for triggering jolt damage constantly and you get the jolt buff from the sidearm ❤🎉 and there is a void one that has destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace which is really good with briarbinds
I agree. One of the favorites I keep is THE FOOL'S REMEDY with high caliber rounds, hip fire grip, kill clip and range MW. Amazing PVP weapon! Drang remains a monster.
Some nice moves zipping around; I'm going to investigate the load out, and the sidearms, as mentioned! I already have everyone's current favourite Heliocentric 'heal clip / kill clip' which is great...though habit usually means a Drang...but, after this...vid, maybe it's time for a change! Thanks for sharing! GG and Cheers!
I randomly dusted off an old Fool's Remedy with moving target/kill clip. I was absolutely shocked at how fast this thing melts. For once my hoarding actually did me some good.
Have that roll with Arrowhead and Ricochet with Handling MW. Very sticky with crits and when offhand is active, stretches you out to like 20m before falloff.
Ive genuinely focused about 400+ engrams at banshee trying to get a fullbore / extended mag /hipfire /offhand strike /range MW to run with mechaneers on hunter. Been farming since focusing became a thing, basically. I literally ONLY GOT ONE HIPFIRE/OFFHAND roll PERIOD
As a sidearm main too, The range deffo does matter. You can literally feel it between archetypes. 450’s are great. They melt super fast… But their severe lack of range will get you killed *alot!* in a competent lobby. They wont even let you get close enough for it to be effective. Against easy players or bots though, no problem. The 300’s are deffo the best archetype next to the three burst fire ones. Travellers chosen & last dance. Jheeezzee. Chaos!
I use both these fairly often. I'm a PC player, & for some reason a lot PC players don't like sidearms. 3-bursts in the primary slot are underrated too (Senuna), because there are so many more exotics in the primary slot for achieving pvp dominance imo. I go back & forth between 3 & 2 bursts depending on how my aim is that day.
I did my best work this weekend with Rat King, as it turns out, but when I did lean into the Heal Clip/Kill Clip Heliocentric, it performed well, too. Loved the invis after a kill with the Rat King, though. I want more fireteams of 3 running it!
Drang used to have even more range (due to the highest zoom in the game) but it's been dialed back. But sure, I can see myself running Brigand's Law, craftable and all. Perpetual motion, surrounded, enhanced? Maybe Rangefinder (in spite of range not mattering). Or even just Voltshot, even in PvP.
Drang and every other 300 is still better. Far better range. Much better aim assist. More stability. Less floaty recoil. The range on 450’s are so shit you’ll be dead alot of the time you reach engagement range unless youre playing a team of crap players like in this video. This gun will get you killed in any above average lobby.
I've been a blinklock main with drang since drang came back. You're spot on about the distance with drang. With the long drawn out immortal meta drang was one of the few that could compete with immortal. I'm a side arm hoarder so I'll dust of some old rapids and give em a spin.
Im never doubting maven again. Ever since her GL video, i have been having an absolute blast with koraxis distress. She actually knows whats she's talkin bout
Love the vids ! Watching the gameplay made me think about using Foetracer with Ensnaring slam and Mykel's Reverence, since it's strand you slam someone and get 4x surges for your sidearm, sounds pretty good to me
Fell in love with rapid fires with my Rangefinder/KC Punching Out and no my workhorse side are is a Zen/KC Fioritura roll I use in a Mechaneer’s PVP void build. Very good stuff
This archetype has always felt the best to me. Fingers crossed some day i get one with vorpal. I love jumping supers with sidearms. Bow+sidearm forever 💘
I started using Mykel’s Reverence since a true vanguard video and can’t put it down! Feels good and is really effective. Rewind rounds helps to ensure you have enough ammo for every fight and maybe two if needed.
I used to love Fioritura! I focused a new one w/ kill clip/rampage and it’s disgusting! I have been frying guardians left and right with this thing. Almost 300 kills on it in a week (that’s a lot for me), so big THANKS to Maven for keeping things fresh, fun, and deadly!
Love your videos been using a hip fire kill clip fools remedy for years now. If it wasn't for the heal clip percision instrument helio I'd be using it. You've inspired me to break it out again !
I don’t play much pvp, but I use my Fioritura all the time in pve because of the ttk and because it’s the only non-exotic shield piercer weapon this season. It seems like there are a lot of void shielded combatants in activities with Barrier Champions lately, too. ❤️✌️
Ima continue being a man of culture. Lonesome w/ Zen Moment & Kill Clip and "A Swift Verdict" w/ Killing Wind and Kill Clip. Throw in Mechineers Tricksleeves and you have a lethal combination
i know that adagio on emperical evidence doesnt change the ttk much, but when u have it going and hit your headshots on the second player it freaks tf out of them how much health gets taken away on the first burst. my fave sidearm by far
Some of these architypes feel different depending on the input. For example, the 3 burst feel a lot more managable than the 2 bursts on controller since the 2 bursts have a lot more kick. Rapid feel great on controller but are a lot less sticky the further the enemy. This is where it feels like the range stat actually comes into play. I crafted my mykels with around 60 stability and enhanced tap the trigger to hit 100 stability and put the rest into range to help it feel stickier at longer ranges. Ive always liked rapid fires on controller but mykels brought it to a whole new level. Best feeling sidearm on controller imo.
The only reason I moved from my futuroa-59 kill clip zen was because of Helios heal clip. Heal clip works so will with the trick sleeves play loop. Low health more damage then get your health back after a duel.
Maybe for controller, but drang on mnk imo is still the best feeling sidearm. Those and 3 Bursts (I don’t jive with 2 bursts). Some weapons are tuned differently from mnk to controller, and even with a godroll furiatta, hipfire offhand with high stability, another killclip roll as well, base drang still feels infinitely better. Plus it pairs with sturm, and grants the 2 tap
I agree wholeheartedly that precision sidearms have the highest skill ceiling atm, but rapid fires are probably the best for most. With that being said, as a fellow sidearm enjoyer, all archetypes feel genuinely competitive with the right perks, build, etc.
I've used some sidearms here and there this season but I've been doing better with SMG's. Ikelos kills almost as fast as any sidearm and it has more range and a larger mag. I've contiuned to use Unending Tempest too. 120 and SMG has been a pretty successful loadout for me. I do like my heal clip/kill clip helio though.
I have been using SA since they came out in D1. The Range state MATTERS!!!!! My go to is adaptive and precision. I have caught 1000’s of people off guard because of the extra range. Travelers Chosen is my Fav and Drang is my second. SA are the best counter to Shotty rushers.
Range is on a grading scale, the noticable jumps say 1m or so are at the end of the stat. Found Rangefinder to extend the aim assistance still, which is nice... But actually messes my aim when u r 2 close as the zoom may be to much. Aggressive burst and 3 round adaptive always treated me well. The past couple months I've spent time learning The Final Warning, the time was well spent. The final warning is the furthest reaching primary sidearm in D2, with drop off and a red lock it remains lethal at 60m (sum1 tries to edger edge away or grapple away). Has the fastest primary TTk with 3 head with red lock 4 against 10 resilience and sum DR. The ability to literally break the ankles of your opponents as you skate past them for a lock, without worrying about my aim... Just marvelous. No1 is using it in PvP, it's fire in the right hands. Remember to tap fire as fast as you can once that lock happens, .2 EST milliseconds. Sandbox did hurt the hip fire, moved from .774 to .94 which hurts, however cleaver build crafting & great movement it is negligence. Hope you try it, may take awhile til you master it... But it'll replace you fusions, smgs, sidearms, shotguns. 25 is lock range so, anything at 25 or below just got replaced... Lol
@@MusMasi Try it. Get a buddy, go into private (mayhem for ability), at 25m obtain your lock approximately 200-250 milliseconds. Once obtained, get your buddy to grapple down a long stretch or skate... As they are in transit, you gotta send 10 downstream to connect. Final Warning, obtain lock, tap fire as fast as possible. You can send 12-15 if u r fast enough... The floor does hit, however the 100% accuracy and lock on bonus allows this.
@@MusMasi massive? Wut u got going on there guardian? R targets disappearing on ya... Suggest a Ethernet cable... I had to get one sixty feet long, really though... Why ask that? I have no issues, ur positioning may result in trades until you get enough practice.
My Fioritura-59 with zen moment Golden Tricorn does not leave my side. I keep a repulsor brace roll for pve too. And you've definitely earned a sub from me for the rapid fire love!
The Fioritura is also insane with repulsor brace and void hunter for PVE. I usually reference to this gun to my clan as the Pew Pew Pew... Because that's what all of them are hearing 😂😅
Good content! Recently switched to the heal clip/kill clip sidearm with the meta shift and it's unfair at times! I'll have to try out some rapid fires to see how they feel
Rapid fires have been my favorite since Black Armory(got a sweet black armory roll and been hooked since even after scrapping it after sunsetting lol)...Fioritura, Fool's Remedy, Brigand's Law..pocket shredders for sure.
Drang is a god tier sidearm. That’s not because of TTK but rather the out of band stat that give it more range, AA, hit reg. Omolon Rapid Fire is my favourite frame but not the best. This frame is what you use when you want to deal with shotgun. They can’t miss but you can. They also have a nice sounds.
Zen moment golden tricorn is what I always run. I shred entire teams on trials with it. I use icarus grip so I can melt in the air but if I have golden tricorn it's rare I get out gunned, this sidearm shoots so fast people are shocked by it
My only problem with the rapid fire Frames is ammo efficiency, they really struggle outside of duelling one opponent when it requires a reload after every kill, with the burst sidearms I have no problem cleaning up a second kill with the bottom half of the mag.
Hi I actually have a Heliocentric qsc with Heal clip / Kill clip. Would that really be your God roll? Love your content. What about your PVE god roll for Fioritura-59 and Heliocentric?❤. I know Heliocentric is Lightweight frame btw
The helios is amazing because u can literally strafe hip fire around players and they will consistently miss shots It's great against sliding shotgunners once u do it once, it's easy to repeat with a lower effort
Sounds good sidearm have to test, i have one now but perks is smallbore, armor piercing rounds, tunnel vision and kill clip + masterwork is range. Have to grind good roll. :)
Yeah, well if you farm the lost sector for 2 nights and still don't get the Helio god roll drop ........... I do have a very nice Punching out though - Hammer-forged, High Cal, Threat detector and Kill Clip - and a range MW. It was actually another creator - Heli - who put me onto the joys of the Punching out. BUT according to True Vanguard - with the prevalence of Titan Barricade spam in Trials - I'm looking for the Boudica from Hakke - that has the Breach Armaments foundry perk breaks them very nicely. Yes - Precision frame, but might be worth it for countering the barricades.
I've been thinking the same since Forsaken. It's a really good archetype and feels unfair to use it (for the opponent). Though I'd say I was really disappointed that the only exotic 450rpm sidearm is not that great, or at least when trying to use it as it is without the tracking (and is impossible to maintain the optimal rpm, or that's how I feel like playing in console, there is no way I can press R2 that fast and being consitent)
I wish we got one of these for the kinetic slot. The only one we've ever gotten drops from a raid so ive never gotten one and they are my favorite archetype
The SMG meta is dead. Long live the (450) SMG meta. Edit: the Brigand's Law is nuts. Edit 2: Damage perks are the best way to add "range" to sidearms. Since they already have tremendous aim assist, the AA falloff of a low range stat doesn't hurt them so badly. Also, Killing Wind easily puts them in Fusion Rifle territory.
I usemy cruel remedy with moving target and iron grip..100 stability is like training wheels.sooo good.moving target helps with headshots.reoads a bit slow but not bad.100 stability and 74 handling.also drang has solar flash pretty bad.kinda hard to see through.
I have the QSC with Healclip (360 shooter) and Fools Remedy with High Calibre Rounds (450 shooter). Both are excellent weapons. My Fools Remedy reloads faster, which is a factor ...
Been using lightweight and precisions (lots of Boudicca) for a while and thought they were the best in the game… Then gave rapid fires a try again… Soooo much better. More forgiving and fun to use. Only slightly less range. Like 1-2 meters, which is a couple steps back. That said, Mykel’s Reverance is objectively the best rapid fire in the game. Highest range, stability, AE, AA, can get enhanced perks, and paracausal affinity is faster to proc than kill clip and has the same ttk. 🔥 Go farm the raid for this bad boy if you don’t have one yet!
I’m still clutching my 260rpm swift verdict slideshot rangefinder range master like it’s my version of every person clutching a conditional against 3 void titans 😂
Here's that video from @drewskyschannel I mentioned: ruclips.net/video/_izB41gqJ14/видео.html&ab_channel=Drewsky
Also do you guys want me to do more pvp stuff on this channel? lmk!
You know I ran into you in Trials. You mowed me down with some XIM/Chronus bullshit sidearm, but it felt good to add YOUR name to the list of victims my Lubrae's Ruin feasted on.
@@legendxcarisso I don't remember dying to Lubrae's Ruin this weekend. Maybe that was a different Maven? But hey, GG if we did play!
Not true range is important on sidearms more then stability. Anybody that’s good at pvp can land there shots with decent stability.
Each sidearm archetype is good in this archetype. Rapid not being popular because of there perk rolls. Many just don’t have good enough perks list for pvp.
Range so important and not every sidearm going be use at same range. Drang more popular because it’s craftable with enhance perks.
John Rambo here. Saw this sidearm video pop up in my feed and had to check it out. I have 30k kills on my fools remedy now. I picked it up from iron banner one day and could never put it down. Been waiting forever for them to bring it back so I can get a better roll. My roll has iron grip and 100 stability. I think fools remedy also has the highest aim assist of the rapid fires. Thanks for the shout out!
Ayyy ggs. I matched you in trials quite a bit and you inspired me to try your build! I snagged quick flawless with it on Jav. Now that Mountaintop is coming back and they are un-nerfing the airborne effectiveness nerf, are u gonna use that over Witherhoard?
Yeah remedy is nuts with the right rolls don't waste time on damage perks sure they make your kills faster but if you focus your efforts on consistency the gun performs really well without damage perks. I found that pairing fools remedy with witherhoard and having as much handling and range as possible then you can just tag the enemy with the witherhoard damage wether it's direct hit or the ground doesn't matter it's just the damage bc one tick of witherhoard makes the rapid fire sidearms chew threw the rest of their health extremely fast. I've got somewhere between 10 and 15k kills on fools remedy and 3k kills on witherhoard 😅 but I haven't played PVP seriously in about 2 years bc of the state of crucible 😢😢
Now something I've been unable to get my hands on is punching out with harmony.... Get the witherhoard kill proc harmony get the harmony kill witherhoard reloads start over.... Sounds gimmicky tho.... There was an arc one of these from the season of plunder I can't recall the name for the life of me . But that one rolls with volt shot which in pve I think is my favorite way to play with the witherhoard combo since witherhoard is great for triggering jolt damage constantly and you get the jolt buff from the sidearm ❤🎉 and there is a void one that has destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace which is really good with briarbinds
I need to pick mine up again, fun type of sidearms.
Hello again! Check discord!
You’ve become one of my fav D2 RUclipsrs whether it’s PvE or PvP. Always fun and knowledgeable videos 🙌🏽
thanks ^.^
Dude for real! Maven is a beast!
I agree. One of the favorites I keep is THE FOOL'S REMEDY with high caliber rounds, hip fire grip, kill clip and range MW. Amazing PVP weapon! Drang remains a monster.
Some nice moves zipping around; I'm going to investigate the load out, and the sidearms, as mentioned! I already have everyone's current favourite Heliocentric 'heal clip / kill clip' which is great...though habit usually means a Drang...but, after this...vid, maybe it's time for a change! Thanks for sharing! GG and Cheers!
I randomly dusted off an old Fool's Remedy with moving target/kill clip. I was absolutely shocked at how fast this thing melts. For once my hoarding actually did me some good.
Fioritura with Hip-Fire Grip and Offhand Strike feels absolutely amazing.
I've been farming for that!
Damn I deleted it few months ago
So like a sidearm version of last word?
Have that roll with Arrowhead and Ricochet with Handling MW. Very sticky with crits and when offhand is active, stretches you out to like 20m before falloff.
Ive genuinely focused about 400+ engrams at banshee trying to get a fullbore / extended mag /hipfire /offhand strike /range MW to run with mechaneers on hunter.
Been farming since focusing became a thing, basically. I literally ONLY GOT ONE HIPFIRE/OFFHAND roll PERIOD
As a sidearm main too, The range deffo does matter. You can literally feel it between archetypes. 450’s are great. They melt super fast… But their severe lack of range will get you killed *alot!* in a competent lobby. They wont even let you get close enough for it to be effective. Against easy players or bots though, no problem. The 300’s are deffo the best archetype next to the three burst fire ones. Travellers chosen & last dance. Jheeezzee. Chaos!
Great vid. You've really got your data figured out. The spider women moves are pretty sick, too.
THANK YOU! I have a Brigands Law that i crafted and i love. The Rapid fires dont get any love but those of us that know, well, we know
The blooper music was so good for that sequence. Good stuff!
I use both these fairly often. I'm a PC player, & for some reason a lot PC players don't like sidearms. 3-bursts in the primary slot are underrated too (Senuna), because there are so many more exotics in the primary slot for achieving pvp dominance imo. I go back & forth between 3 & 2 bursts depending on how my aim is that day.
Don't get me wrong. I love The Vision, but every time I use it, I have to ask myself why I'm not just using the Trespasser instead
@nomadicpastSenuna is a Staple for my Bakris hunter...soooo good lol even in pvp surprisingly (I'm ass at pvp and was shredding people EASY)
I did my best work this weekend with Rat King, as it turns out, but when I did lean into the Heal Clip/Kill Clip Heliocentric, it performed well, too. Loved the invis after a kill with the Rat King, though. I want more fireteams of 3 running it!
3 rat kings is SO underused in trials
Drang used to have even more range (due to the highest zoom in the game) but it's been dialed back. But sure, I can see myself running Brigand's Law, craftable and all. Perpetual motion, surrounded, enhanced? Maybe Rangefinder (in spite of range not mattering). Or even just Voltshot, even in PvP.
Drang and every other 300 is still better. Far better range. Much better aim assist. More stability. Less floaty recoil. The range on 450’s are so shit you’ll be dead alot of the time you reach engagement range unless youre playing a team of crap players like in this video. This gun will get you killed in any above average lobby.
Congrats on the subs! Loved that bloober real. Lag is truly insane
Thanks for this! It gave me something to focus at the Gunsmith and I'm really liking it!
I've been running quicksilver and punching out recently, and I've never felt this deadly with an aggressive playstyle before.
Punching Out has always been my favorite Sidearm and one of the 1st world drops I found many seasons ago. Another great video and breakdown .
I just pulled out my Fool's Remedy with a Quickdot, Ricochet rounds, moving target, & kill clip! Thanks for this video!!
I've been a blinklock main with drang since drang came back. You're spot on about the distance with drang. With the long drawn out immortal meta drang was one of the few that could compete with immortal. I'm a side arm hoarder so I'll dust of some old rapids and give em a spin.
Im never doubting maven again. Ever since her GL video, i have been having an absolute blast with koraxis distress. She actually knows whats she's talkin bout
Also headsealer on the 3 Rd burst are really good!!! Sleeping on those!
I've tried that on the High Albedo and the Senuna. Its pretty decent!
Old Travelers Judgement 5 head seeker n rapid hit....sunset 😒
Love the vids ! Watching the gameplay made me think about using Foetracer with Ensnaring slam and Mykel's Reverence, since it's strand you slam someone and get 4x surges for your sidearm, sounds pretty good to me
Fell in love with rapid fires with my Rangefinder/KC Punching Out and no my workhorse side are is a Zen/KC Fioritura roll I use in a Mechaneer’s PVP void build. Very good stuff
This archetype has always felt the best to me. Fingers crossed some day i get one with vorpal. I love jumping supers with sidearms.
Bow+sidearm forever 💘
I started using Mykel’s Reverence since a true vanguard video and can’t put it down! Feels good and is really effective. Rewind rounds helps to ensure you have enough ammo for every fight and maybe two if needed.
I used to love Fioritura! I focused a new one w/ kill clip/rampage and it’s disgusting! I have been frying guardians left and right with this thing. Almost 300 kills on it in a week (that’s a lot for me), so big THANKS to Maven for keeping things fresh, fun, and deadly!
I found a great Fools Remedy in my vault after watching this. Range mw, moving target, KC and high cal rounds. It’s been working great.
YES!! my High albedo with killing wind/Headseeker was doing work in trials this weekend!
That's an adaptive frame three-burst, though, not a rapid fire frame.
Not Maven's bloopers being better than my try hard mode hahaha
Love your videos been using a hip fire kill clip fools remedy for years now. If it wasn't for the heal clip percision instrument helio I'd be using it. You've inspired me to break it out again !
I don’t play much pvp, but I use my Fioritura all the time in pve because of the ttk and because it’s the only non-exotic shield piercer weapon this season. It seems like there are a lot of void shielded combatants in activities with Barrier Champions lately, too.
❤️✌️
Ima continue being a man of culture. Lonesome w/ Zen Moment & Kill Clip and "A Swift Verdict" w/ Killing Wind and Kill Clip. Throw in Mechineers Tricksleeves and you have a lethal combination
i know that adagio on emperical evidence doesnt change the ttk much, but when u have it going and hit your headshots on the second player it freaks tf out of them how much health gets taken away on the first burst. my fave sidearm by far
Some of these architypes feel different depending on the input. For example, the 3 burst feel a lot more managable than the 2 bursts on controller since the 2 bursts have a lot more kick. Rapid feel great on controller but are a lot less sticky the further the enemy. This is where it feels like the range stat actually comes into play. I crafted my mykels with around 60 stability and enhanced tap the trigger to hit 100 stability and put the rest into range to help it feel stickier at longer ranges. Ive always liked rapid fires on controller but mykels brought it to a whole new level. Best feeling sidearm on controller imo.
Love using my Fools Remedy, kc/Mt roll.
Yup. 3,500 or so kills on mine. And 1k on rangefinder kill clip punching out
The only reason I moved from my futuroa-59 kill clip zen was because of Helios heal clip. Heal clip works so will with the trick sleeves play loop. Low health more damage then get your health back after a duel.
The black armory 4 burst from back in the day with Kill Clip was my absolute favourite. Was very sad to delete it when it got locked to 1600
liminal vigil with kill clip and headstone is a monster. I love it
Is still rock my Fools remedy and once that KC is active it’s game over! Just melts. Great video!
Maybe for controller, but drang on mnk imo is still the best feeling sidearm. Those and 3 Bursts (I don’t jive with 2 bursts). Some weapons are tuned differently from mnk to controller, and even with a godroll furiatta, hipfire offhand with high stability, another killclip roll as well, base drang still feels infinitely better. Plus it pairs with sturm, and grants the 2 tap
Love the vid Mav. Been spamming helio or keening on arc & forerunner. But I’ll definitely give a few rapid godies I have in the vault a spin!
Thanks! Some great Trials footage here!
I agree wholeheartedly that precision sidearms have the highest skill ceiling atm, but rapid fires are probably the best for most. With that being said, as a fellow sidearm enjoyer, all archetypes feel genuinely competitive with the right perks, build, etc.
I've used some sidearms here and there this season but I've been doing better with SMG's. Ikelos kills almost as fast as any sidearm and it has more range and a larger mag. I've contiuned to use Unending Tempest too. 120 and SMG has been a pretty successful loadout for me. I do like my heal clip/kill clip helio though.
I LOVE these side arms! Thanks for shining some light on them!
Rapids are on all 3 of my toons for PvE & PvP. Nicely done Queen Mave.
I have been using SA since they came out in D1. The Range state MATTERS!!!!! My go to is adaptive and precision. I have caught 1000’s of people off guard because of the extra range. Travelers Chosen is my Fav and Drang is my second. SA are the best counter to Shotty rushers.
Range is on a grading scale, the noticable jumps say 1m or so are at the end of the stat.
Found Rangefinder to extend the aim assistance still, which is nice... But actually messes my aim when u r 2 close as the zoom may be to much.
Aggressive burst and 3 round adaptive always treated me well.
The past couple months I've spent time learning The Final Warning, the time was well spent.
The final warning is the furthest reaching primary sidearm in D2, with drop off and a red lock it remains lethal at 60m (sum1 tries to edger edge away or grapple away).
Has the fastest primary TTk with 3 head with red lock 4 against 10 resilience and sum DR.
The ability to literally break the ankles of your opponents as you skate past them for a lock, without worrying about my aim...
Just marvelous.
No1 is using it in PvP, it's fire in the right hands.
Remember to tap fire as fast as you can once that lock happens, .2 EST milliseconds.
Sandbox did hurt the hip fire, moved from .774 to .94 which hurts, however cleaver build crafting & great movement it is negligence.
Hope you try it, may take awhile til you master it... But it'll replace you fusions, smgs, sidearms, shotguns. 25 is lock range so, anything at 25 or below just got replaced... Lol
60 m range on a side arm? Whats that? Scout Side arm? Sniper Sidearm?
@@MusMasi
Try it.
Get a buddy, go into private (mayhem for ability), at 25m obtain your lock approximately 200-250 milliseconds.
Once obtained, get your buddy to grapple down a long stretch or skate...
As they are in transit, you gotta send 10 downstream to connect.
Final Warning, obtain lock, tap fire as fast as possible. You can send 12-15 if u r fast enough...
The floor does hit, however the 100% accuracy and lock on bonus allows this.
@@treyrandall2983 does connection play a massive factor?
@@MusMasi massive?
Wut u got going on there guardian?
R targets disappearing on ya...
Suggest a Ethernet cable... I had to get one sixty feet long, really though...
Why ask that?
I have no issues, ur positioning may result in trades until you get enough practice.
Well, Watching this I checked the vault and have a Fool's Remedy with KC and moving target. I'll have to try it out when I get home. Thanks Maven
All glory to the algorithm
I finally got hipfire / offhand strike Fioritura and that strand dive looks really fun, gotta try it out.
I love how different people are swearing by precision, lightweight and now rapidfire sidearms
My Fioritura-59 with zen moment Golden Tricorn does not leave my side. I keep a repulsor brace roll for pve too. And you've definitely earned a sub from me for the rapid fire love!
I like how your solo GM tastes translate to your patient trials play
Congrats on 40k subs. I was using necrochasm and kill clip and heal clip heliocentric in trials and it was melting faces. Great video.
The Fioritura is also insane with repulsor brace and void hunter for PVE. I usually reference to this gun to my clan as the Pew Pew Pew... Because that's what all of them are hearing 😂😅
Love your vids. Always tune in for your breakdown. Pls do both pvp & pve!
I love rapid fire sidearms. My brigands law with voltshot is the only thing I use with my arc build.
Good content! Recently switched to the heal clip/kill clip sidearm with the meta shift and it's unfair at times! I'll have to try out some rapid fires to see how they feel
Rapid fires have been my favorite since Black Armory(got a sweet black armory roll and been hooked since even after scrapping it after sunsetting lol)...Fioritura, Fool's Remedy, Brigand's Law..pocket shredders for sure.
Drang is a god tier sidearm. That’s not because of TTK but rather the out of band stat that give it more range, AA, hit reg.
Omolon Rapid Fire is my favourite frame but not the best. This frame is what you use when you want to deal with shotgun. They can’t miss but you can. They also have a nice sounds.
Congrats on 40k. Well deserved!
thx ^.^
Gun with most kills on my account is Smuggkers Eord. 23k Crucible, 70 k PvE. Bring it back! Love 450s though, too
nice gameplay! didnt know that combo existed and looks op
Zen moment makes this thing feel a lot better on MnK. It's my favorite right after my Liminal Vigil which is pretty cracked with TTT+rangefinder.
Zen moment golden tricorn is what I always run. I shred entire teams on trials with it. I use icarus grip so I can melt in the air but if I have golden tricorn it's rare I get out gunned, this sidearm shoots so fast people are shocked by it
CONGRATULATIONS on 50k! Well deserved and earned! 💥💥💥💥💥💥
My only problem with the rapid fire Frames is ammo efficiency, they really struggle outside of duelling one opponent when it requires a reload after every kill, with the burst sidearms I have no problem cleaning up a second kill with the bottom half of the mag.
Hi I actually have a Heliocentric qsc with Heal clip / Kill clip. Would that really be your God roll? Love your content. What about your PVE god roll for Fioritura-59 and Heliocentric?❤. I know Heliocentric is Lightweight frame btw
I chuckled when you said "I'm going to lose my mind" thinking about me using that godly sidearm 😂
Congrats on 40k Maven!
The helios is amazing because u can literally strafe hip fire around players and they will consistently miss shots
It's great against sliding shotgunners once u do it once, it's easy to repeat with a lower effort
Me crying now after working for one with 50 range 😢 still love it
Sounds good sidearm have to test, i have one now but perks is smallbore, armor piercing rounds, tunnel vision and kill clip + masterwork is range. Have to grind good roll. :)
Yeah, well if you farm the lost sector for 2 nights and still don't get the Helio god roll drop ...........
I do have a very nice Punching out though - Hammer-forged, High Cal, Threat detector and Kill Clip - and a range MW.
It was actually another creator - Heli - who put me onto the joys of the Punching out.
BUT according to True Vanguard - with the prevalence of Titan Barricade spam in Trials - I'm looking for the Boudica from Hakke - that has the Breach Armaments foundry perk breaks them very nicely.
Yes - Precision frame, but might be worth it for countering the barricades.
Ive been using the vanguard rapid fire with harmony on it- amazing with messenger.
Heliocentric is the truth. It’s just got that secret sauce and feels so good. Great perk pool and the lightweight bonus is just the icing on the cake.
I just got a zen moment/kill clip Fioriture to drip from Banshee. I'll have to give it a go this weekend
Lmao at that blooper reel at the end feels like you were matching players in Africa
Your bloopers are better than my best days on PvP 😅
I've been thinking the same since Forsaken. It's a really good archetype and feels unfair to use it (for the opponent). Though I'd say I was really disappointed that the only exotic 450rpm sidearm is not that great, or at least when trying to use it as it is without the tracking (and is impossible to maintain the optimal rpm, or that's how I feel like playing in console, there is no way I can press R2 that fast and being consitent)
I will say that forgiveness adept (mine has 95 range) allows me to take fights deeper, almost feels like old drang in terms of damage drop off.
I love the feel of precision frames rn tho. I have always been a rapid fire guy too.
As a huge sidearm fan, I believe wholeheartedly that rapid fires should have the lightweight intrinsic bonus..
I wish we got one of these for the kinetic slot. The only one we've ever gotten drops from a raid so ive never gotten one and they are my favorite archetype
on mnk i always tend to gravitate toward lightweights, they seem to be the easiest to control for me
Those who know about the black armory dead man walking x
Keep up the great work and congratts fore 30k ❤️🎉
1 meter can make a big difference in leaving someone 1 shot
The SMG meta is dead. Long live the (450) SMG meta.
Edit: the Brigand's Law is nuts.
Edit 2: Damage perks are the best way to add "range" to sidearms. Since they already have tremendous aim assist, the AA falloff of a low range stat doesn't hurt them so badly. Also, Killing Wind easily puts them in Fusion Rifle territory.
if u can i advice to go hip fire grip and offhand strike on fioratura ,btw fun fact any sidearm with hip fire grip more consistent then last word😭
I usemy cruel remedy with moving target and iron grip..100 stability is like training wheels.sooo good.moving target helps with headshots.reoads a bit slow but not bad.100 stability and 74 handling.also drang has solar flash pretty bad.kinda hard to see through.
Congrats on the 40k. Are you using airborn on the sidearm?
First time watching your videos and just subscribed - keep up the great content 😊
I know this video is about sidearms, but damn that team at 3:20 got absolutely violated
Been using fioritura for ages, it's a little gem. Threat detector/kill clip/ flared maxwell goes off. But don't tell anyone!
I have the QSC with Healclip (360 shooter) and Fools Remedy with High Calibre Rounds (450 shooter). Both are excellent weapons. My Fools Remedy reloads faster, which is a factor ...
I love your weapon advice.
Been using lightweight and precisions (lots of Boudicca) for a while and thought they were the best in the game… Then gave rapid fires a try again… Soooo much better. More forgiving and fun to use. Only slightly less range. Like 1-2 meters, which is a couple steps back.
That said, Mykel’s Reverance is objectively the best rapid fire in the game. Highest range, stability, AE, AA, can get enhanced perks, and paracausal affinity is faster to proc than kill clip and has the same ttk. 🔥 Go farm the raid for this bad boy if you don’t have one yet!
I’m still clutching my 260rpm swift verdict slideshot rangefinder range master like it’s my version of every person clutching a conditional against 3 void titans 😂
Ohh my banner fools remedy hasn't left my side. I don't always use it but when I do, I remember how angry that sidearm is