Amazing job first time I comment about a tutorial this is what we are supposed to be learning Quick and easy to understand but after all informations that nobody really explain thanks .
This is insane. I’m trying to make the perfect starting template, and I love having a drum send, but having control over reverb is a game changer for clean mixes fr
Thanks! I faintly remembered there was some sort of send plugin once I got into chaining hell on a tricky section in a song and this got me rolling in like 5 minutes, keep it up!
The dry knob sends any effects after the "Fruit Send" from the channel you're sending from (including that channel's EQ) to the destination channel. That green knob that shows up when you link one channel to another is essentially the same thing. It allows you to send one channel post-fader (meaning everything that you would hear if you didn't have a "send") into the destination channel. So if you wanted a distorted guitar, but wanted a clean guitar reverb, you could add distortion AFTER the send & turn the dry (or the green knob going from Channel A to B) all the way down. Your guitar will then be send as a d.i. to the reverb channel where you can put an amp sim with a clean channel in slot one & reverb in slot 2. You will then have a clean signal that is reverbed & a distorted channel that is not. You can also add an EQ to channel A AFTER the distortion to modify that sound separate from what you're sending to the reverb channel. Hopefully that makes sense. Lmk if there are any questions. Just learning this stuff & honestly? I kind of wish I had just gone to college & acquired debt to work the same job I do now, but with an extra debt to pay off like we were told to do. This stuff sucks. lmao.
@@tbrizOfficial Do it up! It definitely helps, especially with snare mixes or blending instruments so you don't have to mix out the hits of keys, drums, etc. I'd love to hear how it goes! 💜💙
if you drag your audio or plugin into the name of the track in the playlist (like "Track 1", "Track 2", etc), then it creates a new pattern meant for that specific instrument, and a dedicated mixer track with matching instrument name and color. Btw great video thank you
thank you !!!!! exactly what i was looking for had to do some fishing around but glad i found your video brother fruit send !!! not peak controller hahaha salute bud
You can do it post fader as well. To do that, use "side chain to this track" instead of the direct routing when sending your try track to your wet one, and then use Fruity Send the same way as in the video. Then you will be post fader and fx. I'm pretty sure that's the post fader way, don't quote me on that... Hope that makes sense. Many things subjective when mixing. "Better" is only better if you like the way it sounds better, or it does what you want it to. Do it however you like, it's your mix! 😁
Hi, thanks for this great video. I just have another question. What if guitar was panned left and piano right and if I wanted reverb to be on opposite sides for each track. Can this be achieved by pan knob automation or is there any other way?
I'm starting to see the similarities to Reaper with FL, as how everything is.ultra modular and ultra customizable as far as how any channel and any track can be designated to be what ever you need it to be
Best explanation on youtube on fl studio on pre and post fader ever! I have a question: Can I use fruity send for parallel processing like compression and many more?
Thanks... I want to redo this video with some diagrams might make it easier. Yes Fruity Send it great for parallel processing as well - sounds like you know your stuff. 👍
I made a template with everything chained to a send return without the FL send. I migrated from Ableton so I had no idea. I would've spent forever had I not seen this scratching my head.
@@tbrizOfficial Yeah, and what I figured I'd do is create a series of sends in a patcher set so I can utilize more than one FL Send at a time without needing to stack the limited FX chain. That's the one good thing about Ableton is unlimited FX per channel unless you know if mixers have more FX than the slots it shows.
amazing video and tutorial! quick question: if there were other effects on the drums or piano channels (compression /EQ etc), would you/should you put the Fruity Send at the end of the chain instead or still in the beginning?
If I recall correctly, everything before fruity send will get sent... but there are no universal rules or best practices for something like this, try it both ways and see what you like better.
Hey man. I was wondering why you don't just use the route knob to mix in the reverb instead of using fruity send, seems to do the same thing, no? I mean, I'd guess the only time you wanna use fruity send would be if you want the reverb to play alone at some point... or is this just another option for basically the same thing? Edit: I tried it... to be honest I still can't outline major differences apart from solo'ing the effects and sending a dry with no effects from the main... But the sound is really CRISP, especially once you pan the effect. I guess this is the right way to do it.
I like having my reverb on its own separate track. Then you can eq the reverb separately. I often cut some low end of my reverb. Pan my reverb right with my instrument left. Mess around with automation on thr reverb track. And more. And it's way easier when it's on its own track. Also, when I bounce down my tracks to stems and someone buys the beat, they have the option to remix without the reverb I used, or add their own. Basically, use ypur imagination and there's lots of good reason to keep your reverb on a separate track. Or maybe you're just talking about a different way to do this.... In which case just do what you like. There's no rules for shit like this, just techniques.
Informative vid.. question: I know the following option is available in some other daws, but in fruity loops are you able to create vca/dca's aswell or not? Bless
3:30 Aren't you lowering the already distorted signal this way? I think it's too loud coming out the reverb, in which case you can just lower it's wet or the audio going into it, which a gain/input-volume should do if the reverb has one Btw., I usually just do this with an EQ, lower the overal volume on that while doing some EQ before the sound becomes the reverb, can save cpu if the reverb doesn't offer the option. Iirc things can sound a bit different when the EQ is before or after the reverb, but I always get it to sound a way I like either way.
I think the best way to do it would actually be to, instead of routing it directly at the bottom of the mixer, to right click and select "side chain to this track" that way you dont get a double and it doesnt sound so loud. try it out for yourself and you will see
It doesn't double the track when you drop the dry signal on the reverb and have 100% wetness... It becomes a track that's only outputting the reverb and you can control the reverb volume from the fader. One track is pure dry signal and the other track is pure reberb that you can pan separately if you like too. That's what i was showing in the video.
@@tbrizOfficial No, it does send the original signal twice to the reverb insert. Once pre-fader via Fruity Send and once post-fader with your send. If you turn the volume knob in Fruity Send all the way down, you can hear it is still sending the post-fader signal to the reverb insert. As Nebyu said, the best way would be to press "sidechain to this track" or just turn the post-fader send knob all the way down.
@@kaze8447 Interesting - I never knew that. I will mess around and take a look. For my experience this has not had a negative affect on the final sound of my reverb tracks, but def better to know this stuff you guys are informing me about. Thank you.
damn what about for vocals though? would you do the same thing, what if i have my vocal chain full and i need to add the fruity send for reverbs, delays, parallel compression etc?
Yes, I like putting most effects on a separate track. For me it's a little more setup, but totally worth it because easier to mix. Also, when I pass my stems to an artist and then they want someone else to mix it, that person doesn't have to deal with all my reverbs and delays being "baked in" to the audio track... they have freedom to add their own effects chain if they wanted to.
Does pre-fader take plugins before the send into account? I've fantasized about routing from any point within a mixer channel, this would be like a slightly less convenient way that also takes one fx slot, which isn't a big deal. What I usually do as it is, I have the plugins I want to affect both first, then split that to two mixer channels where I affect the dry and wet individually, then back to a channel where I affect them both afterwards, but this way I could at least get rid of the dry one, but also the bus that comes after if I can then route that back, basically just having the wet and dry skip certain plugins. Patcher is also amazing for keeping the mixer clean btw., at least if you're otherwise really having to cram stuff into the mixer, I'd love some tips for patcher.
I don't know if there is an advantage or not. What I do know is, Fruity Send is an option, and this video shows one way to use that option. Is this the best option? Not for me to decide, it's up to the producer to choose his/her tools! Thanks for the comment my friend.
Route to this track method - sends audio signal to the send track with all the effects you put on the chain! Top to bottom. Then sends the signal. Using Frooty Send plugin method - in mixer use it on top of the chain, this sends complete unprocessed audio signal to other track (send)! Hope you got it!
It's pretty much the same tbh just one more work than the other kinda 🤷🏿♂️ I definitely use a send with reverb on drum bus . Just easier to control the reverb for me
So we must use fruity send if we want to hear only effect like reverb, without sound of oryginal audio. Example: Snare is sidechain to reverb, and i only want to hear reverb so i need to use fruity send, right?
It's too bad that the volume knob next to the Fruity Send in the slot, doesnt control the actual volume of the send itself in the Fruity Send plugin. Unless you know of a way to link them.
@@tbrizOfficial yes that one. If it could control the Fruity Send level then you wouldn’t have to open the actual Fruity Send plugin to change the amount of send.
You want to make a video called, 'The most mysterious FL Studio functions that no one knows about but everyone needs to know' and eh you'll get half a million views....
@@tbrizOfficial yessir..hey i have a question. i used up all my slots on my vocal insert for effects so i cant add a fruity send how would i route that i tried from a vocal buss with a fruity send from the buss but its doubling
Yea the way i did it back when i made this i think is dry by default because it's pre-fader, before the mixer effects chain... Maybe I'll make an updated video.
I wouldn't expect Albert Einstein to be confused of course... I was gonna draw pictures of the signal flow for pre and post fader but yea, idk if I'll ever actually do it anyway. Appreciate the feedback for sure 🤙
I went to school for audio engineering... Professor would teach us something... Sometimes it would take me a while to understand... Then one day it would just click. Also, if I did a better job with this video prep and made some visual aids it probably would have helped. You'll get it eventually. Watch other vids on Fruity Send maybe there is one out there that will help it click for you.
Had a great time watching this tutorial, wish this existed 7 years ago, amazing tool
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Amazing job first time I comment about a tutorial this is what we are supposed to be learning Quick and easy to understand but after all informations that nobody really explain thanks .
Thanks man glad it was helpful 👍✌️
This is insane. I’m trying to make the perfect starting template, and I love having a drum send, but having control over reverb is a game changer for clean mixes fr
Awesome man, glad it was helpful 👍✌
finally the first video to explain what ive been looking for. thank you
Nice glad it helped!
You explained this concept so well! Thank you!
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lol loved the Inception analogy.
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The best Video on this subject ..just what I was looking for....
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That's great, thanks so much for the explanation. I didn't even know about the fruity send plug.
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Thanks! I faintly remembered there was some sort of send plugin once I got into chaining hell on a tricky section in a song and this got me rolling in like 5 minutes, keep it up!
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The dry knob sends any effects after the "Fruit Send" from the channel you're sending from (including that channel's EQ) to the destination channel.
That green knob that shows up when you link one channel to another is essentially the same thing.
It allows you to send one channel post-fader (meaning everything that you would hear if you didn't have a "send") into the destination channel.
So if you wanted a distorted guitar, but wanted a clean guitar reverb, you could add distortion AFTER the send & turn the dry (or the green knob going from Channel A to B) all the way down. Your guitar will then be send as a d.i. to the reverb channel where you can put an amp sim with a clean channel in slot one & reverb in slot 2. You will then have a clean signal that is reverbed & a distorted channel that is not.
You can also add an EQ to channel A AFTER the distortion to modify that sound separate from what you're sending to the reverb channel.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Lmk if there are any questions.
Just learning this stuff & honestly?
I kind of wish I had just gone to college & acquired debt to work the same job I do now, but with an extra debt to pay off like we were told to do.
This stuff sucks. lmao.
Helpful stuff, thank you. Been a while since I made this video so I forget what's in it haha... Will try out your suggestions later tho!
@@tbrizOfficial Do it up! It definitely helps, especially with snare mixes or blending instruments so you don't have to mix out the hits of keys, drums, etc.
I'd love to hear how it goes! 💜💙
HI,thanks for the information i really appreciated the explanation
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if you drag your audio or plugin into the name of the track in the playlist (like "Track 1", "Track 2", etc), then it creates a new pattern meant for that specific instrument, and a dedicated mixer track with matching instrument name and color. Btw great video thank you
You know what I accidentally did this the other day and was like... what?! Going to have to start harnessing this new ability unlock LOL. Thanks!
much appreciated! great tutorial, thank you
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thank you !!!!! exactly what i was looking for had to do some fishing around but glad i found your video brother fruit send !!! not peak controller hahaha salute bud
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can you add reverb post fader? Why did you add it pre-fader, isn't it better to always put it post-fader?
You can do it post fader as well. To do that, use "side chain to this track" instead of the direct routing when sending your try track to your wet one, and then use Fruity Send the same way as in the video. Then you will be post fader and fx. I'm pretty sure that's the post fader way, don't quote me on that... Hope that makes sense.
Many things subjective when mixing. "Better" is only better if you like the way it sounds better, or it does what you want it to. Do it however you like, it's your mix! 😁
Another good video, very helpful, I learned something new - thank you.
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Hi, thanks for this great video. I just have another question. What if guitar was panned left and piano right and if I wanted reverb to be on opposite sides for each track. Can this be achieved by pan knob automation or is there any other way?
From what it sounds like you don't need automation, just pan the tracks as you described, if I understand correctly.
I'm starting to see the similarities to Reaper with FL, as how everything is.ultra modular and ultra customizable as far as how any channel and any track can be designated to be what ever you need it to be
Good video learned something new
Hey glad to hear it, thank you ✌
Best explanation on youtube on fl studio on pre and post fader ever! I have a question: Can I use fruity send for parallel processing like compression and many more?
Thanks... I want to redo this video with some diagrams might make it easier.
Yes Fruity Send it great for parallel processing as well - sounds like you know your stuff. 👍
@@tbrizOfficial Thanks
I made a template with everything chained to a send return without the FL send. I migrated from Ableton so I had no idea. I would've spent forever had I not seen this scratching my head.
Yooooo awesome thanks for the comment ! :)
@@tbrizOfficial Yeah, and what I figured I'd do is create a series of sends in a patcher set so I can utilize more than one FL Send at a time without needing to stack the limited FX chain. That's the one good thing about Ableton is unlimited FX per channel unless you know if mixers have more FX than the slots it shows.
amazing video and tutorial! quick question: if there were other effects on the drums or piano channels (compression /EQ etc), would you/should you put the Fruity Send at the end of the chain instead or still in the beginning?
If I recall correctly, everything before fruity send will get sent... but there are no universal rules or best practices for something like this, try it both ways and see what you like better.
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Hey man. I was wondering why you don't just use the route knob to mix in the reverb instead of using fruity send, seems to do the same thing, no? I mean, I'd guess the only time you wanna use fruity send would be if you want the reverb to play alone at some point... or is this just another option for basically the same thing?
Edit: I tried it... to be honest I still can't outline major differences apart from solo'ing the effects and sending a dry with no effects from the main... But the sound is really CRISP, especially once you pan the effect. I guess this is the right way to do it.
I like having my reverb on its own separate track. Then you can eq the reverb separately. I often cut some low end of my reverb. Pan my reverb right with my instrument left. Mess around with automation on thr reverb track. And more. And it's way easier when it's on its own track. Also, when I bounce down my tracks to stems and someone buys the beat, they have the option to remix without the reverb I used, or add their own. Basically, use ypur imagination and there's lots of good reason to keep your reverb on a separate track.
Or maybe you're just talking about a different way to do this.... In which case just do what you like. There's no rules for shit like this, just techniques.
Informative vid.. question: I know the following option is available in some other daws, but in fruity loops are you able to create vca/dca's aswell or not? Bless
Actually not sure on that one. Good question for Google haha. Thanks for the comment always appreciated sunda 🙏
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3:30 Aren't you lowering the already distorted signal this way? I think it's too loud coming out the reverb, in which case you can just lower it's wet or the audio going into it, which a gain/input-volume should do if the reverb has one
Btw., I usually just do this with an EQ, lower the overal volume on that while doing some EQ before the sound becomes the reverb, can save cpu if the reverb doesn't offer the option.
Iirc things can sound a bit different when the EQ is before or after the reverb, but I always get it to sound a way I like either way.
I like your way too... I might make an updated video for this.
Thanks. Now I what send does
Great!
I think the best way to do it would actually be to, instead of routing it directly at the bottom of the mixer, to right click and select "side chain to this track" that way you dont get a double and it doesnt sound so loud. try it out for yourself and you will see
It doesn't double the track when you drop the dry signal on the reverb and have 100% wetness... It becomes a track that's only outputting the reverb and you can control the reverb volume from the fader. One track is pure dry signal and the other track is pure reberb that you can pan separately if you like too. That's what i was showing in the video.
@@tbrizOfficial No, it does send the original signal twice to the reverb insert. Once pre-fader via Fruity Send and once post-fader with your send. If you turn the volume knob in Fruity Send all the way down, you can hear it is still sending the post-fader signal to the reverb insert. As Nebyu said, the best way would be to press "sidechain to this track" or just turn the post-fader send knob all the way down.
@@kaze8447 Interesting - I never knew that. I will mess around and take a look.
For my experience this has not had a negative affect on the final sound of my reverb tracks, but def better to know this stuff you guys are informing me about. Thank you.
damn what about for vocals though? would you do the same thing, what if i have my vocal chain full and i need to add the fruity send for reverbs, delays, parallel compression etc?
Yes, I like putting most effects on a separate track. For me it's a little more setup, but totally worth it because easier to mix. Also, when I pass my stems to an artist and then they want someone else to mix it, that person doesn't have to deal with all my reverbs and delays being "baked in" to the audio track... they have freedom to add their own effects chain if they wanted to.
Does pre-fader take plugins before the send into account? I've fantasized about routing from any point within a mixer channel, this would be like a slightly less convenient way that also takes one fx slot, which isn't a big deal. What I usually do as it is, I have the plugins I want to affect both first, then split that to two mixer channels where I affect the dry and wet individually, then back to a channel where I affect them both afterwards, but this way I could at least get rid of the dry one, but also the bus that comes after if I can then route that back, basically just having the wet and dry skip certain plugins. Patcher is also amazing for keeping the mixer clean btw., at least if you're otherwise really having to cram stuff into the mixer, I'd love some tips for patcher.
Pre fader is before the plugins, if I recall correctly... Go ahead and try you'll be able to see. Thanks for the comment ✌️
@@tbrizOfficial That's a shame, could've otherwise just put it at the top of the order for the same effect. I'll give it a try, though! Ty too
Amazing ❤️
Thanks!
How does it differ from the simple routing though, what if i just add reverb to a track, and route both of the instruments to that track?
You can do it that way too... Try it out with both see which one you like better.
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whats the advantage of using the send plug in instead of routing a drum bus to a verb send with "route to this track" feel like it easier on CPU?
I don't know if there is an advantage or not. What I do know is, Fruity Send is an option, and this video shows one way to use that option. Is this the best option? Not for me to decide, it's up to the producer to choose his/her tools! Thanks for the comment my friend.
Route to this track method - sends audio signal to the send track with all the effects you put on the chain! Top to bottom. Then sends the signal.
Using Frooty Send plugin method - in mixer use it on top of the chain, this sends complete unprocessed audio signal to other track (send)!
Hope you got it!
@@jonesmarkeSo what if i wanted to have reverb, delay , parallel compression etc? would l just keep adding ‘Fruity Sends’ under eachother?
It's pretty much the same tbh just one more work than the other kinda 🤷🏿♂️ I definitely use a send with reverb on drum bus . Just easier to control the reverb for me
THANKS
So we must use fruity send if we want to hear only effect like reverb, without sound of oryginal audio. Example: Snare is sidechain to reverb, and i only want to hear reverb so i need to use fruity send, right?
That's one way to do it, sure.
@@tbrizOfficial i found something yesterday, you can "alt solo" and than u hear it only ;p
It's too bad that the volume knob next to the Fruity Send in the slot, doesnt control the actual volume of the send itself in the Fruity Send plugin. Unless you know of a way to link them.
The volume knob right on the FX Slots? If I hover over it, it's labelled as "mix level"... Yea I don't know either.
@@tbrizOfficial yes that one. If it could control the Fruity Send level then you wouldn’t have to open the actual Fruity Send plugin to change the amount of send.
I'm stuck I'm trying to sidechain the reverb doing it this way. Can anyone tell me how to do it?
I'll make a new video soon with sidechain.
You want to make a video called, 'The most mysterious FL Studio functions that no one knows about but everyone needs to know' and eh you'll get half a million views....
Hahaha that's a good idea!
keep going, there are a lot of tutorials way worse with thousands of followers
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@@tbrizOfficial yessir..hey i have a question. i used up all my slots on my vocal insert for effects so i cant add a fruity send how would i route that i tried from a vocal buss with a fruity send from the buss but its doubling
how to use it in pacher
Good question... Too much for me to comment about, maybe a video sometime.
@@tbrizOfficial thanks
I came here specifically for the Dry knob and what it does, and after waiting 9 minutes, i still don't know.
Yea the way i did it back when i made this i think is dry by default because it's pre-fader, before the mixer effects chain... Maybe I'll make an updated video.
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Argument: EQ BEFORE Reverb.. why let those lows hit it unnecessarily? Discuss.....
YOu should just link as sidechain to the other channel
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No need to re do the video. It seems complicated only because the video covers a lot.
I wouldn't expect Albert Einstein to be confused of course... I was gonna draw pictures of the signal flow for pre and post fader but yea, idk if I'll ever actually do it anyway. Appreciate the feedback for sure 🤙
I swear I still dont understand, I jus must be stupid
I went to school for audio engineering... Professor would teach us something... Sometimes it would take me a while to understand... Then one day it would just click.
Also, if I did a better job with this video prep and made some visual aids it probably would have helped. You'll get it eventually. Watch other vids on Fruity Send maybe there is one out there that will help it click for you.
@@tbrizOfficial took a sec but I figured lmao. Thank you tho🙏🏾I jus had to slow it down and really look.
Your explian is complicated👎
Which part is complicated?
I have been considering re-doing this video.
Should I be like these other RUclips producers and start titling my videos "HOW TO SUCK LESS AT REVERB?"
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Please don't. I greatly appreciate videos that have descriptive titles that actually tell me what to expect. None of that snake oil / clickbait.