Why Do We Need Heroes?
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2020
- So the recent announcement of I Am Not Starfire from DC got me thinking about heroes, comic books, and how we treat our modern myths and legends. And well, it doesn't look too good. The question now is, why do we even need heroes?
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Your books lack a strong boring invincible female character BTW you know I’m totally messing with you dude
I'm reading Redemption, right now. Good stuff!
If you don't lower your audio sound effects I'm going to go deaf man
We're on black list and deception game in texas keep rocking brother.
Hello
No one would insert themselves into that character except the author.
Not even food would willingly insert themselves into this "Blobfire".
@@genegene8488
“Dumpsterfire”
Maybe a burger would insert into her, but via the mouth and followed by cheesy chips.
I can promise you peick grayson would and will insert himself into starfire daughter just cause
Ouroboros looking for the begining...
"Why doesn't Superman look like me?" asked no boy EVER.
ikr dc is too poor now.. i mean look at dem budget cuts, their animated movies make no money no wonder, they dont even put any budget in there.. theyre down way too bad, its helpless, especially this thing goin on with amber heard thing, fuck man, in the near future, im gonna see disney logos in dc movies
Neil Gaiman: "You don't make Superman 'relevant'. You make him inspiring!"
I always thought “I want to look like Superman” so it inspired me to work out
"Why isn't Alfred, that really old butler from Batman, gay?" asked no one, ever.
I'm gay & I dgaf.
@@solongsuicide9 exactly, I'm bi and I hate stuff like race bending and changing someone's sexuality for no reason. I don't even really care about representation but if you want to represent minorities then come up with something original. don't change someone that wasn't even a problem to begin with
"A body positive Wonder Woman that strikes fear into the hearts of fast food buffets everywhere" God I love you, Drinker
Yea, since when "being fat" become "healthy"?
@@majidqayyum9613 it didn’t. It’s all the humpback whales trying to fit in
@@majidqayyum9613 they don't know the difference between "being fat and obese" and "being THICC and curvy"
So im an artist and im gonna try my own take on this story
@@gitgud1555 As long as it mocks the real thing, I’ll read it.
Superheroes aren't supposed to be relatable, they're supposed to be inspiring
Kinda half right. A hero should have struggle through the course of their story to show how they relate to us, but you are right in that they shouldn't be made to be so relatable that they become a parody of the audience. A fat, unenthusiastic narcissist is more of an insult to the people that the character is supposed to be representing than an inspiration. But seeing them overcome adversity and change for the better is where the audience can connect with the character.
The only "relatable" a hero should have is their struggles and hardships that made them who they are as we know them
Anti heroes are more relatable
Both if possible
I'd say it's both. A good superhero is supposed to be relatable (which is why writers strive to make their superheroes more nuanced than not) and at the same time inspiring (by emboding the ideals that they represent).
I didn't know Starfire and Penguin had a daughter.
She took more after her father LMAO
@@ericrhodes5174 and she's a dead shot with her umbrella gun 😉
Underrated comment
I think it's not Penguin, it's Wario.
Nekron did nothing wrong
"Human beings are strong, because we have the ability to change ourselves."
-Saitama
Nice quote 👏👏👏👏
Saitama spits fire all the time. "I'm hungry. Fancy some udon?" is one of my favourites.
@Tyler Dripden IT IS
"Here have some banana."
- Saitama
@@bruhman3406 yeah the second season Sucks.
I asked my local comic book shop owner how many books he was selling on average from these “SJW” titles. He said “Single digits at best”. I think the comics business forgot it’s a business.
When i look at the sales numbers, i don't understand how Marvel even pays its personnel.
As a car salesmen for 5 years same with hybrids and electric. We would sell maybe 1 every 2 months and we had 200 plus cars on lot at any given time.
you mean that are not from those titles
I wish comic shops would start curating their own content and stop buying crap. I seldom buy anything from them. Comics are too expensive considering that there's like an 80% risk it's just gonna be filled with the agenda
He hasn’t gone bankrupt?
"Because once you accept everything, then there's no need to strive for anything"
That is the one of the most profound pieces of wisdom I have ever heard.
"Once you accept everything there's no need to strive for anything."
....
Woah.
Almost like the Drinker is an author, eh? :)
And they say alcohol is bad for your brain. Look at how it turned our Drinker into motha-fokin philosopher and motivator. :)
Sooo... If you're not sexist and racist ... somehow you give up your dreams and hopes? Zero sum game is the only way? Getting on top of the pile over a ton of corpses? Exploatation? And why would acceptance of silly and pathetic be bad? Because acceptance, will somehow not make us tough?
I see empathy triggers some.
Without taking away anything from Drinker, I wholeheartedly recommend listening to Jordan Peterson. He has the same take on these problem, but at a more fundamental level. I love how these two voices complement each other.
@@DPROKimchy It seems I need to spell this out for you. Fine. Its about the extremes. He talks about how accepting everything is just as bad as accepting nothing. That accepting the *wrong* things can cause harm. That, unlike how today's PC culture sees it, acceptance is *not* always a good thing, and you should also consider *what* you want to accept.
"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything" - the Drinker, 2020
nails it!
Kind of like “If everyone is a super hero... then no one is...”
Only a true villain could think like that...
I mean... what kind of person would try to tear down those meant to give us hope, to shine a light upon a better way?
Besides JJ Abrams... Kathleen Kennedy and Chris Chinballs....
"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything." - The Wise Man, Sucker Punch (2011)
@@barret-xiii Harder than you think is a beautiful thing. - Chuck D, Public Enemy
Postmodernism
"When you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything"
Jesus I could wheep for hours at how good these words are.
No wonder the drinker is as successful an author as he is. This line makes me recontextualise all my struggles and failures and reminds me why I've been fighting and striving for something better. He's articulated something that I've known to be true deep down, but never found the words for.
Thank you.
I couldn't agree more
He's an author? What are some of his works?
@@silentoccasion4359 the ryan drake series. He also wrote something with james patterson i think
The Drinker's message is more inspiring than the comic book heroes we have now. Well done.
I love how he frames it as well. Gives a very basic premise and yeah, that actually could be promising, there’s a lot to explore there. Then shows the fail of an execution and, “Ok, we need to talk.”
Looks like starfire had an affair with the Penguin
Damn, nailed it bro lmao.
ew ew ew ew EW.
Starfires sister
😵🤢🤮
when the stolen comment is sus!
“No one wants to look up to you anymore, Superman. They don’t want to strain their necks.”
-Lex Luthor, Marvel/DC: After Hours
All I was thinking of while watching this incredible video, was that exact quote.
@@OutlawDin0 RandomGuy taught me that good writing is _everything._ In a world where movie studios spend hundreds of millions on CGI blockbusters, some of the most compelling superhero videos around are just a guy puppeting action figures in front of a webcam.
@@DrFranklynAnderson They'll never get it. Now pardon me while I go reread Kingdom Come.
Hey, that's actually a great line...
Looked up the full quote:
Lex: Because the Marvel Universe has corrupted everything you stand for, all in the name of high drama. Think about it, Kal-El! Your job is to be an inspiration for people. Someone they can look up to, someone they can aspire to be like. In steadfastness, in character, in ideals, and what did Marvel offer? They said "Don't worry, you don't have to aspire to anyone in our books. You just have to relate to them." And now we have an entire culture that thinks that who they are is just fine, and how dare anyone suggest that they could improve themselves! Why aspire to be Superman when it's so much easier to relate to Spider-Man? No one wants to look up to you anymore, Superman. They don't want to strain their necks. Instead, they look straight ahead at the compromised heroes in front of them and say, "That'll do just fine." Don't you see? We have the power to put it all back the way it was! The way it should be! You can still be the inspiration you once were! You can still make a difference. Isn't that why you became a hero in the first place?
Superman: I also became a hero to stand for certain principles. And this thing you're suggesting, for better or worse it would be a lie. And of all the things I stand for, truth always comes first.
This is an incredible video. Heroes exist so we can build ourselves up to their ideals. You’re not supposed to see yourself as exactly like a hero, you’re supposed to see them and strive to become stronger, smarter, faster, more valorant and honorable.
*valorous
This reminds me of one thing I learned as an English major. I felt like a pariah at my college because my classmates were reading and writing and gushing over "experimental" or "literary" fiction that I found boring, confusing, or gimmicky; meanwhile, I loved reading and writing mysteries, thrillers, sci-fi--anything with an exciting plot. My story submissions to our lit journal were rejected time and again, our author visits rarely featured writers of my type, and I sometimes felt like everyone else saw genre fiction as inferior. One day, we were discussing Beowulf in class, and I reflected on the oldest surviving stories in various cultures: Beowulf, the Odyssey, Gilgamesh, etc., stories that were definitely not "literary," but very plot driven and exciting. Perhaps there was literary fiction in ancient Greece or Mesopotamia. But the stories that survived hundreds, even THOUSANDS, of years, that people committed to memory, that people still recognize today, are stories of epic adventures, larger-than-life villains, and courageous heroes beating unimaginable odds. I think that says something about the importance of heroes.
I think there’s a false dichotomy between popular fiction and literary fiction. One piece of literature CAN be both. I would say the epics you mentioned are a good example of that. Good literature should appeal to humanity broadly. I suppose bad fiction can do that too, but in a way that is dishonest or shallow and, therefore, transitory.
P.S. I was an English major too. Studied at a private Christian uni, where I wasn’t amongst a sea of work nonsense (called Grove City College in western PA). I now teach English at high school in my hometown of Roswell, NM.
"I think novelists come in two types, and that includes the sort of fledgling novelist I was by 1970. Those who are bound for the more literary or “serious” side of the job examine every possible subject in light of this question: What would writing this sort of story mean to me? Those whose destiny (or ka, if you like) is to include the writing of popular novels are apt to ask a very different one: What would writing this sort of story mean to others? The “serious” novelist is looking for answers and keys to the self; the “popular” novelist is looking for an audience."
- Stephen King
I've never had a lot of patience for "serious" literature, or experimental literature, or, God forbid, existential literature. At the end of the day, I may just not be smart enough. That's fine by me. The stories that have always gripped me are the ones that are character driven, especially the ones with characters to, for some reason, admire. I love Star Trek because it holds up an ideal to strive toward. Same with Luke Skywalker, and Superman, and Spider-Man, and countless others. The world is hard enough. I'd rather enjoy what I'm reading.
When I was an English Writing major, my teacher actually said the words, "Literary fiction isn't supposed to be entertaining." She and the rest of the class had just laughed at me because I told them I enjoyed Twilight (book, not movie). After she made that statement, I decided she was an idiot and I'd do all my homework but not take to heart any of her advice. Because who in their right mind would write or read stories that weren't any fun?
A good quote from The Incredibles of all places
"When everybody is Super"
"Nobody is"
Incredibles had a lot of good quotes. Another is: "they always tell you to be true to yourself but never what part of yourself to be true to." Just beautiful and poignant in an age that decries any attempt to examine what it means to "be yourself."
I believe the word they use is special, which adds another layer, for me anyway, to the depth of that line.
@@scianna13 No syndrome says "When everyone is super no one will be". You're thinking about when Helen and Dash are chatting in the car about being special, and Helen giving the example of bad parenting saying "Everyone is special Dash" to which Dash correctly points out "Which is another way of saying no one is"
The genius is in having Dash subtly emphasize and point out the villians point before we even get to him lol.
The worst part about it all was that Syndrome was making everyone super by raising the common human to super hero standards, making nobody super since everyone could do what superhero’s could do. These new writers seem hell bent on dragging our heroes down to our level, making it so that there are no heroes because no one could ever be heroic, it’s achieving the same status quo of a sorts but the bar is so much lower since the old heroic standard of being is now unreachable, that’s almost worse if you think about it.
I'd take any amount of people being Super over nobody being Super
Me, wiping away a single tear:
“I will, Drinker. I will go away now.”
Bye bye 👋
Dude lol I said about the same thing.
U make that sound real final...do I need to call the Samaritins?
Don't be silly my dudes. I interpret OP saying "I will go forth indeed, honored sage, inspired by your words."
@@KalonOrdona2 You have not yet received the credit you deserve for these words. ONE THUMBS UP FOR YOU, FOR I AM NOT ABLE TO GIVE TWO!
“Once you accept everything, there’s no need to strive for anything.”
That’s wisdom right there
"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything." Damn, this one hits hard.
"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything."
The Drinker is a goddamn genius, always on point and full of wisdom. He certainly has some ancient druids in his bloodline.
When everyone's super, no-one will be...
This is so quotable.
I wish there was a Thumbs Up ^ 2 button.
@@clearsmashdrop5829 I wish there was an applause button
Sir, you are wrong. I was inspired and motivated by that short goth girl to read better comics.
This is so underrated oml 😭😭😭
ngl knowing her origins make me loses hope on everything that are western related
This sent me rolling 😂
Fr she inspired me to not be fat anymore, what a hero
@@fancycat1893 xd (good for you)
By the end of this video, I had tears in my eyes and wanted to give you a standing ovation man. My 68yr old father felt the same way too. The way you articulated everything about what heros represent was right on the head.
I've have been going to the movies with my family since I was little girl and I'm almost 40 now. Going to the movies was an escape from reality for me. I grew up with anxiety and depression. For those 2hrs, I was absorbed into whatever was happening and forgot about the cold cruel world. If I truly could go on epic adventures to Mordor or join starfleet, I would! I know these aren't real but if you told me I had a chance, then I would push myself to make my dreams happen.
Even now, I'm tired of working in corporate America and I want to purse a career in writing. I've gotten into writing the past year as a self taught writer and I want this to take off. I'm looking now into how to make this happen. It may take some time but I'm willing to see where this newfound hobby takes me because I love it.
I will not accept everything for what it is and because of this, I will strive to do better for myself.
Thank you for this video, I raise a toast to you!
I Believe in you❤
"They represent something fundamentally good about us, despite our mistakes..."
Considering how cynical I've become over the last few years, I really needed to hear this, especially as a discouraged author/artist.
my thing is, yea, if she were REALLY starfire's daughter and part tamaranian, she'd have more orange skin. BUT the real thing is, i dont get why she looks like a pudgy raven. and yea, she looks more like the author if anything
The secret Is raven and starfire came out as lesbians to eachother and now that's the child of them
That why it looks like raven
@@mysterynerd3591 "it"
@@piapie928 I don't know the name of the daughter that's why I said it
Mystery nerd ohhh no problem man, i just thought it was funny :]
@@piapie928 oh thank god, I thought you were getting annoyed that I said it
"Once you accept everything, there is no need to strive for anything."
Put that on a freaking wall!
I think Syndrome from THE INCREDIBLES had it when he boasted about developing tech to give powers to everyone...
"And when I’m old and I’ve had my fun, I’ll sell my inventions so that everyone can be superheroes. Everyone can be a super! And when everyone’s super...NO ONE WILL BE."
i need to rethink my life
Quote of the century right there.
Agreed. One of the best quotes I have heard.
@V. V just use "the Critical Drinker" I guess. Anyway, that's all I've got time for today, *go away now.*
“A unflattering reflection of their failings…..” Nailed it!
The problem I have with this, on a surface level, since I am a normie.... is that being fat, is NOT healthy, while I'd agree with the sentiment that fat people should not be looked down on or treated differently, advertising having bad health as part of the norm, and straight up encouraging young'ns to STAY unhealthy is just not okay objectively.
Subjectively, superheroes fight for a living... unless being fat and having a lot of fat is a requirement for exercising their duties/superpowers, otherwise being fat is NOT a good example of a hero. If anything... getting healthy, training yourself to be fit and able to help others... would be a very basic but much more acceptable superhero-origin story, if simply because it'd make a lot of sense, and stay coherent while telling it.
Based
I agree
That’s exactly why this comic is not gonna sell
And if all of these companies are trying to strive for more realism, then they would understand that for anyone to be a highly functional human being, you would have to be in some sort of decent or good physical condition. I don't think every superhero needs muscles, but there's a reason why most superheroes are not fat. It's just not realistic. If you give children a hero that is obese, then these same children will find out the hard way that you cannot be obese and be highly functional in real life when it comes to physical activities. Like running and playing and all of that. It was part of the reason why heroes would push good health and working out and vitamins. Sure there was some capitalism in place with those ads, but it wasn't a bad message so it was a good trade off.
@@tyrfree5733 no, heroes aren't realistic in any way. They have been buff since basically forever since that is what they represent. They represent being more than ordinary people. Being that buff is no advantage for anything except for weight-lifting, which is not really an advantage when it comes to fighting. If you look at athletic people they are muscular und skinny, but not even a fraction as muscular as most superheroes are. Really buff people just seem mighty and strong, and this can also be observed when looking at ancient depiction of gods (when they didn't even have these buff people in rl like we have today with steroids and such). People saw these buff figures and figured themselves that people that look so mighty HAVE to be really strong and capable and we haven't moved on from that until today. We connect certain traits with being really buff, it's not rooted in reality, it has been like that for ages.
If my mom was Starfire and my father was Nightwing, I would be pissed if I looked like her too
I've wrote fanfics better than this
Totally agree. I would be feeling like Danny DeVito's character in the movie Twins. "I sure got the wrong end of the genetic here, didn't I???"
The liberal left are the destroyers of dreams. Mean spirited, envious, low expectation w_nkers who want to re-write history as white patriarchal oppression and in their rush for “diversity and inclusion” can’t provide inspiration because they worship desperation.
@@designanddirection
Wow, calm down there dude. We’re talking about the lesbian edgy daughter of fictional alien orange woman.
You don’t need to bring your radical political points of view here
@@alcerdemon9768 Are you completely unfamiliar with the current state of leftist politics and comics? I mean, it looks like you are, because you're calling someone radical for describing them as they are, but...
This lesbian edgy daughter came about _because_ of progressive ideology.
"Do not pray for easy lives gentlemen. Pray to be stronger men."
Edit: just fixed an error with the quote
Just the storm dick
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE IS BREAKING IN
@@furry_aids4946 sit dooowwnnn
**ZOMBIES NOISES**
reminds me of a bit from "Uma Musume" (Pretty Derby), a cute sports anime about horse racing, but the horses are horse GIRLS (basically normal girls, but they have horse ears and tails, as well as exceptionally strong legs and stamina).
The girls of the protagonist team decide to pray for success in their impending races. Then their coach tells them that the proper way to pray isn't to just wish for things to happen in your favor, but to basically promise to god and yourself that you'll DO whatever it is you want to accomplish. It ties well into the main theme of not having things made easy, but to constantly push yourself to be better than you were, while also inspiring and pushing others to do the same.
This video is truly a masterpiece of critical analysis. I'm in my last year of university throughout which I've refined my practice as a writer. In doing so, I've learned to recognize and appreciate the unparalleled craftsmanship and sheer talent displayed in these videos. Well done, sir.
Damn Drinker, got me tearing up over here with a mf speech on what it means to strive to be something more. Whether intentionally or not this is probably your most inspirational video ever.
Penguin is obviously the father.
How has this comment not exploded.
Amazing.
Fucken hell, mate 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Or an orca... I mean... Shoe does look like she's atl least 50% whale.
@@SergeyPupkoMusic Could be the Shark from THE Suicide Squad though...
"If you accept everything, then you don't strive for anything."
That is so unbelievably true.
This would open up the career path to become a drinking youtube film critic. Wait a minute...
Yup that's the socialism in the nutshell.
And this is why i tell people "i thrive on doubt"
Buddhism.
@@krasserTerror #SuperSoyan
I am a 3D artist and I can promise you that no one has ever asked me to make a hero look like that... ever. There is no commission for that kind of art. No artist will make it, except her. Unless, perhaps, it is for a very specific art style. But so far, I have not seen anyone ask.
"Once you accept everything then there s no need to strive for anything." Well said!
Why is a drunk man making a better argument than all my literature teachers
Because your literacy teachers have a list of things to teach you and have the system, teachers union and parents holding them down. Either way It doesn't matter what you learn, it doesn't have to be actually useful or even interesting, it only matters that you get a good grade at the end of the year, than you may be a total idiot but what matters is that you have your certificate of completion.
Because Teachers most of the time have their hands tied on specific plans and schedules regardless if it's actually doing anything productive in your development or not. Nothing matters except for a passing grade.
Because he's speaking the obvious instead of repeating what he was brainwashed to think.
Because the drunk guy is using his brain. While pickled, his brain still produces better arguments than a liberal's indoctrination can tolerate.
Because he's Scottish
"Reimagining Bruce Wayne as a Asian American teenager with his gay butler Alfred"
Excuse me hwat
Originality is dead. There's a reason there are so few truly original movies -- seems like anymore everything's a sequel, prequel, remake, or adaptation of an existing work, and comics are no exception. You know a writer is creatively bankrupt when they "re-imagine" some character for the fifteenth time instead of making their own.
Although I can agree with some of your points I can't fully agree that originality is dead. Yes there has been multiple reboots for many superheroes but there have good Reimaginings (although i can't remember them off the top of my head sorry.) This is all my opinion but I feel that there are also some good new superheroes that aren't popular but still original. I would use anime as a example but that's not what we're talking about. So yeah I don't think originality is dead just yet. (sorry if this shit is hard to read, English isn't fully my main language)
@Zardox I'm Chinese lmao
@@FunSizeSpamberguesa but Japan is still creating orignal ideas. It's just modern American company's dont want to take risks
@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Japan is running out of ideas as well. They're rebooting A LOT of their old shows and are (usually) following played out tropes.
Dude this was amazingly well written, without satire and true to form, well done Drinker, well done!
"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything." What a great line!
“I wish the Hulk was as weak and unhealthy as me!”
“I wish He-Man stayed in his room for 12 hours a day like me!”
“I wish Tony Stark was as smart as me, even though I’m pretty dumb!”
I would like to captain america was coward as me
Yep. It's good for a hero to have flaws, but they need to be an idol after all.
@@dog7146 this reminds me of how even before the serum, cap was still as good a hero as any
he signed up for the military, well aware he would probably die, while as a skinny and weak boy
even the og comics had this same character trait, comics that were made back in the 40s still hold up to this day unlike other character traits that were changed as time went on (like how the og spider-man was a douche who wanted to get back at the world with his powers)
"I wish Batman is a pussy just like me" It would be fun and realistic right...
@@jockeyfield1954 In the first Spiderman film Peter is a douchebag once he realises how his powers benefit him until he loses a close family member due to that attitude. He then realises that the words he heard before weren't just the ramblings of an old man but important in shaping who he would become.
I love the idea that the original Spiderman films are our generation's Superman. I know Parker has been rebooted more regularly than Kent was but I'm going to watch the original Spiderman films again this week to remind myself why they are still great (thanks NWH for helping with setting this in motion).
Starfire's daughter looks nothing like her. Hell, the same people who made this would arguably be up in arms about her being white instead of orange like her mother.
Yeah, that something i noticed too.
But, i think the design is deliberate. No to invoke a body positive message, but to show the consequences of neglectful parents whose shadow is large. She looks nothing like either of her parents, with the exception of her eyes and hair, and looms like she was raised by herself.
CD makes some good points, but im willing ro give this one a shot, if only to see the dynamic between mother and daughter.
Is this... is this... WHITEWASHING??????
@Jay Toledo True, but characters based off of the author aren't always bad.
@@bartholemeowthefirst Maybe, but this doesn't look like it'll be a good character study about the consequences of having a famous mother whose shadow eclipses her daughters achievements. Rather it looks like a fan fiction about a woman who hates the idea of someone else being more popular than her and want to trash their history
@@awkwardboi1328 Aye, but looks can be deceiving.
But, you may be right as well.
I am not a comic fan, but this has become one of my goto videos, when I am unsure or lack the motivation to hit the gym an a certain day.
Heroes, especially ancient myth heroes were a thing to make people strive to be a better person, and a symbol of hope in some cases. They were also someone to look up to and attempt to be as good as them.
“Do not pray for easy lives, pray to be stronger men”
this comment is so underrated. Please pretend I've given 20 likes instead of just 1.
@@waltercomunello121 this. so much this. underratet as fuck. 20 likes from me as well.
C'mon people, lets elevate this (OP) comment!
Abe Lincoln?
@@jbktpl1245 JFK
I still refuse to believe that “safe space” and “snowflake” were anything other than ironic.
My brain just won’t let me
Me either man
Mark my words, they will be the greatest superheroes of our day
@@fge00 very funny
snowflake sounds like the name of a kind hearted snow based hero girl who was created back in 90s
I absolutely love that your videos aren’t just about storytelling and movies, but rather the philosophy behind them and how it connects to the much wider philosophy of the state of our world and the people in it.
"once you accept everything then there is no need to strive for anything" Damn good quote
I'd, personally, like to see Starfire as a black man, Hulk as a Hispanic trans woman and Wolverine as a desk lamp. They join forces to fight the dark forces of evil but then the dark forces of evil get offended and they have to apologize.
That might work as a satire and commentary on modern "entertainment." You have to have an SJW preaching at the start about how the original versions of the heroes are oppressive and why they needed to be replaced.
Lol Love to see that
a desk lamp sure would do great against dark forces
They can't fight the "dark forces" of evil, that's racist
If Steven Universe was a RUclips comment…
Raven: Exists
DC: Let's make a goth daughter for Starfire!
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a comic where raven was obese.
If they made her Raven's daughter it wouldn't be subversive enough
That was my immediate confusion after becoming aware of this. I was like: “Who put Raven in a pneumatic press?”
Heck, They could have done Blackfire if they really wanted
Maybe if they had the daughter be more of a Raven fangirl similar to how Miles Morales liked his uncle Aaron, it would make more sense.
But nah! That takes thought and effort with the intent to tell a truly interesting story
Never thought a drinker video would simultaneously make me want to hit the gym the hardest I ever have in my life and bring me to tears 🥲
Damn, I don’t know how I missed this video but this is one of your best ever.
I’m mixed race, and my personal hero is Miles Morales. That’s not because he looks like me, it’s because he’s everything a hero should be to me, Peter Parker is too and so is Barry Allen. and that’s okay because it’s not about how they look, it’s their hardships and how they overcome them
Idk about Barry Allen, myself, but I agree 👌
I am also mixed but we don't need stuff like whatever this person self inserted lol
I think we mixed-race people understand this so much more, because we know that skin color is only surface level. What truly matters are your beliefs, your mindsets, your actions.
@@harrambou9468 depends on the version of barry allen
but..what about Cherry boi?
"I don't feel good about myself, so no one else is allowed to feel good either."
Never understood why misery loved company so much. I don't. I just want music and I'm as happy as a lark.
Modern age in a nutshell
Sounds like a super villain
The "virtue" of misery. (Eye roll)
"hard work" and "personal responsibility" are 4-letter words to these people.
I literally don't have the words to express how fantastic a summary this video is of what's not only going wrong with our popular culture, but as a wider point our entire society. Both this and the similar video you did about villains are just so absolutely bang on the money.
Bravo, CD. Bravo.
Your description of what a hero is incredible, accurate and your analysis is perfect... You are a HERO!
Helen Parr / Elastigirl: Everyone is special, Dash.
Dash Parr: That's just another way of saying no one is. (From 'The Incredibles')
And Syndrome : "...and when everyone's super - no one will be."
The Incredibles is a franchise worth so much more than it has ben allowed to be. It was so obvious the creators loved the American Superhero tradition, and also the family unit. One is a cultural touchstone that has transcended almost all cultures, the other is an archetype almost all cultures share. Both give the stories they are part of some universality, and both are targeted for destruction by the postmodernist SJW types.
In a couple years that movie will be considered nazi hate speech
@@BATompsett Almost as if the creators of the first movie actually got it. :)
And the creators of the pile of hot garbage that was #2...were the same kind of idiots who would promote nuclear grade horse apples like this asinine comic.
@@arklytte Brad Bird is the writer of both films. The difference isn’t the value of the writers, since both have the same writer. The difference was that the first was a passion project for the director, a story he really cared about and, and the second was meant to get him out of director purgatory after his previous film, Tomorrowland, bombed. That film lost so much money, he may have not been able to make another film unless he somehow made a huge success, and Incredibles 2 was basically a guaranteed success.
Was holding it together until the music started. One of your best videos, Drinker. Ironically inspirational.
So you too were on the toilet watching this.
100%
I see no irony here sir
@Craven Moorehead The people looking up at the Lois Lane catch was my breaking point.....
That was seriously inspiring.. had never thought of why super heroes are as they are until now. Good video man
Your speech at the end was just beautiful.
This was actually.. a really good speech. Well done
"Once you accept everything, there's no need to strive for anything."
-The Critical Drinker, 2020
A Philosopher of the modern era
if you tolerate everything , you are not tolerant anymore. Because to be to tolerant means to accept bullshit but if nothing (like this comic) is not considers bs anymore then noone ins tolerant. and u cant live in a world like that.
fucking fantastic line
Yes but there's a difference between striving to be 7ft tall buff guy or just somebody who's incredibly brave and clever. You can try to actually overcome yourself and train your brain but there's no way for you to become much taller.
@@faischka what he's saying is that you should be striving to better yourself in the ways that you can. you cant become 7ft. that doesnt mean you shouldnt try to change what you can. dont make excuses for being lazy.
“A man needs heroes. He needs to believe in strength, nobility and courage. Otherwise we become sheep to be herded to the slaughterhouse of death. I believe this.”
-Louis L'Amour
I'm copying this. L'Amour makes a great point here. If you don't have a standard that you are striving to attain, you will fall for anything and everything.
Louise La'more and Zane Gray I can still see my Dad sitting in his favorite chair by the woodstove on cold winter nights with a stack of those books beside him
I love Lois L'Amour books.
@@sirwaylonthe1st239 makes me wonder who got Dad's books great quote and great memories
My great grandma loves Louis L'Amour. She has a whole six foot shelf full of his western books.
Now, this might come off poorly, but I think that what made early heroes so powerful was that they were relatable. Every slave in Rome learned of Spartacus and his ventures, every poor person in England knew about the deeds of Robin Hood. These people did things that people wanted and strived to do. They looked to these people as inspiration and a reason to not give up. It is almost sad how today, these heroes are seen as products, things to be profited off of, and I think that is why a few newer heroes fail, while some people may relate, the majority of people aren’t inspired the way that older heroes used to be. For example, during WWII, (even though he was used to sell war bonds) Captain America inspired the ideals of the country during that time. Now look at this comic, you have a character that caters to certain groups as a self insert. No inspiration, no motivation, just a product.
"once you accept everything, there is no need to strive for anything"
As a wise woman once said... "Im holding out for a hero... He's got to be STRONG... he's got to be FAST... and he's got to be LARGER THAN LIFE" This wise woman, who speaks in ancient riddles, did not say "and he's got be morbidly obese to represent the common failings of a calorie high diet, he's got to be slow but tolerated on a fitness test, and he's got to be in no way shape or form special or unique due to the fear of making the others in the group self conscious..." Probably cuz that sounds really stupid and wouldnt work well for a song... but that's just me >.>
A wise woman indeed.
lolol
Truly the wisest
Ogre is like onion they have layer
I mean to be fair the man ended up being shrek who isn't exactly the fittest looking guy
And here I thought we couldn’t find something lower than Snowflake and Spacespace, but Mandy proved me absolutely wrong.
nah snowflake and safespace are still the lowest. this is still pretty low tho
Weren't snowflake and safespace gag characters?
@@dtmcgmcgr9081 nope. They were real characters and the only reason they didn't come out(although I've heard they still might)is because of how much hate the video introducing them got. It was hated by both sides.
Way to go on pushing the bar even lower
It's her super power, you know.
We need heroes for us small folk, to push on- to keep driving the wheel. The fact that The Crow, Barb Wire, and The Phantom were shown brings a little warmth to my cold, dead heart. Thanks Drinker.
There was also Spawn, The Rocketeer...2007 Ghost Rider (and the sequel)...and Hellboy
Thank you, Mr. Jordan. You have perfectly summed up my life long desire to better myself, first as a soldier, then as a medical man, and finally as a father. The heroes I grew up with gave me a goal to strive for, and ideal to try to achieve. I pity those that don't have that guiding quality. Thank you.
I'm a 63 year old male, having had a 40+ year career in the entertainment industry here in Los Angeles. This video made me weep real tears...
As you should. I could not imagine how heartbreaking it must've been to work hard to push things to the screen and speakers at the time to only see it wither away, disregarded and burned at the hands of individuals who don't know hard work, pain, suffering at any rate. Grown up into an age of comfort and peace, they want even more. They don't want to accept that living a healthy and fulfilling life takes this work and takes that dedication... To do things you don't want to but do it anyways, because they are the best thing for you, your friends and family.
To not touch that donut and binge eat the entire package in one sitting while writing a tumblr post on the oppression of fat women and how the world needs to accept them, as unlikable and rotten as they are, instead of working hard to become what they once wanted to be.
I have much respect for you sir. I hope you and your family is doing well in these trying times. Thanks for sharing your side of the medal.
This woke garbage will pass. Avid comic fan and pro Ya boi Zack complained in a video that he could not remember the last Iron man comic he read after turning the last page. Narcissistic mediocrity only appeals to the tiny circle it represents then will fade quickly. Quality can be lost, but will live again if it is preserved.
I for one am looking forward to ordering some Cross Gen comics that I was too broke to buy when the company was around.
That's racist or something
What some people have done to our heroes is truly saddening.
But on a different note, what have been some of the things you've worked on?
@@arkhambricksskylar3808 vocalist/musician on hundreds of major motion picture feature films, video games, tv, etc. I’m a session singer and voice actor.
And then they are wondering why people are buying mangas
Ohhh shot fire.
Just letting ya know, ya cant hide the truth behind your pfp Mari Setogaya
@Some Guy sauce?
*is bagoong a sauce?*
japanese media is far superiour at this point, be it manga, anime or games.........why? because japan doesnt even know how to spell woke
Also correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't manga cheaper to produce than western comics? Comics use that shiny paper thing while manga mostly use paper.
That was one of the most powerful things I've ever had the pleasure to listen to.
Accurate and heartfelt.
Good work, my friend
I come back to this every so often when I need a little motivation, it always does the trick.
“Once you accept anything, theres no need to strive for anything.”
When everyone is a hero, there are no heroes.
@@bugwar5545 exactly society is collapsing because people want to make everyone a hero but in reality not everyone is a hero or a strong person you can look up for
*Ahemcoughunism*
"by the new york times bestselling author"
now that explains a lot.
It's been proven that NYT best sellers now a days is just pay to get in lol.
Every. Time.
New York Times bestseller is one of the most worthless titles on this planet.
It's not hard to be a New York Times best selling author it seems
@Stix N' Stones Hey, do you still like my profile pic?
That nearly brought me to tears! Holy shit Drinker! Thanks for voicing my inner thoughts that I couldn't have formulated any better!
Very good speech about heros
The "bar" should be something we hit our heads on, not something we trip over.
This. This is a good qoute
I disagree. The bar should be something we do chin ups on. It's meant to help us better ourselves.
James Cameron, we need you now more than ever!
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@@overlorddante that's kind of what I was going for dude! 😉
@@arranleon7874 I got you 👍
A great video. Possibly your best.
"Why the past matters" is in a league of its own, this is still great though.
Awesome vídeo. I think so.
P. D. I don't want to speak about politics. But it's the way we are going. Lame.
@@Z0dzor aye, I agree that is his best, but this one's great too. Similar theme, but calls out outrageous and disrespectful 'artistic' choices of action all the same.
Let’s go#burnthedumpsterfire
Really hit home.
This is hands down my favorite video of his, as an artist it makes me want to be better and inspire others. Thank you Drinker! 🍻
beautifully said - eloquence can be so refreshing - especially when it puts words to that scratching annoyance you feel but have a hard time pinning down. Loved the musical touch. Quite unlike your other videos but adding it underlines nicely this notion which is essentially the heart of your channel.
"What is her superpower?"
"Eating and bitching at people."
"SOLD!"
She has super twitter powers. She can cancel 20 people in a minute.
When she REEEEEE's it calls the soy based males to white knight for her.
Rioting and burning down blue cities is her superpower.
Also: Body Odor
@@Desmont123 haahahaha! You got me with that one.
Why destroy heroes and replace them with those things?
Yuri Bezmenov: Demoralization
Black is beautiful Communism is not
@@MILDMONSTER1234 Look at you, still having to use their language to make sure you're clear that you're not a meanie nazi. Stop it.
@@venator0405 Bezmenovs words not mine after all
Nice reference
Exactly. The source of all these problems in the last century all come from one dude who wrote a book. Marx is accidentally destroying the world.
This subject matter is critical. Great video. Great writing. 👍
"Once you accept everything, then there's no need to strive for anything."
My goodness!! These are equally philosophical and true words my man
Pretty much everything is said with these words, ever
WHY ISNT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT THAT SPEECH? THATS THE BEST SHIT I’VE EVER HEARD
lmao are you on something? there are so many people talking about the speech. but whatever, i agree with you it was a 10/10 for me
@@brakk7117 Perfect score, 5/7.
@@brakk7117 idk man maybe I was because I guess I didn’t see any of the comments when I said this
AGREE!
Because people don't want to be put on a 'LIST'.
They say:"a drunken man's words are a sober man's thoughts."
So I salute you Jordan
Life and Fate, I love that book ;)
in vino veritas
There is no Jordan only Drinker.
Damn... your posts don't exactly cause me to tear up. Great post, man.
I really love your writing. Thanks for what you do!
It's not even a cringe OC it's a cringe self-insert.
The sad thing is, Starfire and Nightwing had a daughter in Kingdom Come and she was a pretty cool character.
@@fattiger6957 nightstar right? was a well loved and cute character too
“It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn’t want to know the end, because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened?
But in the end, it’s only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you, that meant something, even if you were too small to understand why.
But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back. Only they didn’t, because they were holding on to something…That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.”
I think I remember reading somewhere that this moment was not in the original script and it was a last minute addition. They screened the film and that part of the narrative felt really bleak.
The writers were tasked to create a "moment" for Sam. Something that would add some light to the absolute darkness that the characters were feeling.
So the writers began writing this monologue for Sam. They had this amazing buildup... but didn't know how to finish it. They weren't quite sure how to finish it... and then one of the writers said to the other: "What are they holding on to?!?!?"
It actually took them some time to pay off that build up.
What a genius movie. What noble and uplifting writing.
Thanks for sharing this here. Totally applicable.
Genius speech.
@@DPMusicStudio I did not know that this scene was not intended to be in the movie, but what I know is that they did not have to write it. It was all written by the master himself.
@@MaceLupo Sounds like you need to read the master a little more carefully...
Sam and Frodo had no confrontation with a Black Rider at Osgiliath in the book... in fact, Faramir didn't even take them to Osgiliath in the book.
This whole part of the Two Towers movie is much different from the book. Sam's monologue was written by the screenwriters... not by Tolkien.
@@DPMusicStudio I know that the scene was not like that in the books, but I am very sure that monologue happened at a different point. Maybe I am wrong, but when I searched for it I found in on the internet as if it was written by Tolkien. That could also still be a mistake. I have read the books 22 years ago so my memory could be wrong. I will investigate that further.
That was actually kind of beautiful. Well done
I’ve now watched this video several times over the past year and it’s genuinely one of the best things I’ve ever seen
Remember, you guys are the real heros.
*Sips milk
HEY! ... Thank you. Also, an old legend speaks of milk "doin a body good"; perhaps we can all continue believing in that... MAYBE? :/
That's what I told the judge.
We need a comic staring the drinker with a pistol in one hand and a bottle of Jack Daniels in another he bravely fighting back the hordes of feminists and SJWs
You've always been such a good boy
*milk sipping intensifies
I see what you did there.... The Boys fan....
This reminds me of a time when the public transit service in my city partnered with the local ballet company to make a series of ads encouraging people to take public transit. They featured beautiful photographs of ballet dancers, men and women in incredible shape, performing all kinds of difficult ballet moves and poses in public locations. A group of the same sort of nihilistic, cynical people described in this video complained that the ads were triggering and offensive to out-of-shape people, and that they should be taken down because they do not represent the average subway rider. To the city's credit, they refused to be bullied and kept the ads up. It still brings me a little spark of joy every time I see one of the photos on my commute.
We live in a Quality-DROUGHT
I'd prolly feel that same spark too
considering how nightmarish ballet training actually is, mad respect.
Great story. What city?
If people in better shape than you makes you feel bad about yourself, the only correct response is to take that as a motivation to be better. Screaming and getting offended, trying to make them put down posters that was a result of their hard-work, is incredibly offensive as well. Imagine putting dedication to your craft, and people say they don't want to see your work because it makes them feel self-conscious...
This is my favorite video you’ve made. Truly wonderful message
thank you so much for you way of thinking and your thoughts you help me see that im not the only one who sees the beautiful world. that we could have if we all work together and stand together
"Once you accept everything there is no need to aspire for anything"
- Critical Drinker
It is hard to say that these woke folk accept everything. Seems to me it is the inverse. Nothing is acceptable. Yet, we are asked to accept everything or be deemed "unacceptable" for our "discriminating" taste. 2 + 2 = 5
@@furtim1 And that is exactly what they want. So we will aspire for nothing.
This concept sounds like a great idea for a comic book super villain. A villain who, is resentful of those who set a high standard so they convince the people that the heroes are the one who are evil.
Yeah that's a neat concept
I'm... Working on my own comic book as of late. I've had the idea since High School, and I've been jotting down ideas ever since. With your permission, may I please use that idea for my villain? I may not end up using it, but I wanted your blessing first. I dunno. It feels like the right thing to do.
stain is similar i guess
Hopefully, some new writer in the future will use that concept for writers and characters of this generation
@@blackfrost3581 "ALL MIGHT IS WORRRRTHYYYY!!!" 👹☠ Lol!
Seriously though he's such a unique and well thought out villain. I wish he'd stayed around longer than he did instead of just influence the other villains to take over his doctrine. I guess they may have been going for that idea of how once a school shooter's manifesto gets released, it influences others to do the same. Bad ideals breed more bad ideals.
I watch your videos, i dont always like how you describe problems in most of you videos, but this one touched me. This deserves a mega like.