Fun fact. if you play against vlad and you use your W before his, you still dealing damage to him. His fog will not protect him from your sucking ability.
@@Giovanni-le4fvthe main reason it’s genius is the enemy saw him level 5 and then he leaves vision and hits 6 without them knowing for a surprising engage with r. the healing didn’t really matter imo
There was a time where i wanted to make this work, i tried tank fiddle mid with frozen heart, visage and jacksho, sometimes fimbulwinter. The amount of oppression this pick has vs meelee is INSANE. My fav matchup was vs Akali because all her kit is counter by fiddle, W auto targets in her shroud and she can't burst you through your healing. Long live MIDDLESTICKS!
You forgot to mention an important fid tech: while channeling R if you press E during the channel it will fear after the blink, letting you fear outside of ult range but not needing flash like the W version
Mind elaborating? I tried it a couple ways and I think what you mean is from bush to outside of ult range and then E to fear enemy outside of range, is this it?
@@manny_here Uh i cant quite visualize what you mean but imagine this: you are out of vision (either behind or wall or in a bush etc), you press R to ult but during the ult channel you press E, this will make Fiddle cast E right after he blinks If you do this the E will fear even though it looked like you used it while everyone had vision on you. Because E has longer range than ult and Q, this tech is pretty useful to extend your range of catching people If you didnt press E during the ult channel but instead after, you would just get the normal slow and silence
Fiddle jg main here, the absolute key is vision control, mind games, and PATIENCE. After you ult from certain angles like raptor pit and red/dragon bush, enemies will be wary and always try to ward, docking you the fear. Without fear on ult you pretty much int every fight. Condition enemy team to be scared of those areas and then start ulting from unusual places (the blink from ult can be HUGE at certain walls). It’s best to communicate to team that during fights they should bait the enemy to you, stalk bushes and be patient. Engaging first is good but once enemy blows their cooldowns and chase your team to you, into a mid-fight ult, it’s wraps.
This has to be the best lol related video I've seen in a while. No 5minutes introduction, no talking of some cliches just to fill the time, no ads and no begging for subs and likes. Just pure knowledge. Well done.
This reminds me of that time I fought against a Fiddlesticks at top as Shen. It was hell since Fiddle is impossible to push against or even farm. Every time I try to CS, he will E then W me to harass. Trading is even worse since Shen only has 1 engage tool and way to cancel Fiddle's W. The moment I went in, he chunks me for half my HP with his combo.
also another tip is fiddlesticks doesnt scale well with ap except his ult. If you are facing high hp tanks better go all ap pen, that will make ur Q damage cause 40% max hp damage or more making W final tick and Ult finish the job
@@goldenarmour7975 I know that emoji is supposed to be a fist bump ,but I couldn't stop laughing cause for a second it looked like you were punching the guy for giving out a tip
Additionally: When casting ult pit of vision if you immediately cast while channeling it will feat whoever you hit giving you a bit of extra feat range with R
Still preferred that tho, your drain is more consistent in both heal and damage even w/out extra targets. Fids is still good cause most if not all of his power budget is on his really great ult. usually in most reworks I moved on but still can't get over this, I had many memories with the old drain, but as long as they bring it back and not bad, I'm good.
@@esRaortiz was busted, if drain was on you the bounces would auto-aim towards you. any time you are close to minion wave you lose half health, I loved it
God damn it, I have 300k mastery on the champ and I did not knew about the W-flash. You just made me learn something insane, especially when you explain the fear part with R W flash
I think if you're curious enough, you will X then instantly flash everything that's not instant-cast. Most skills that are not instant cast have like 0.25 cast time. Mechanics like this make League have more depth, sadly Syndra's E Q skill expression was removed tho. That was also made possible cause E had a 0.25 cast time.
Coming from a person who plays middle sticks myself , starting playing middle sticks after seeing pants are dragon play it tanky, tried it and solo Que and had a 60 % winrate in bronze 1 at the time (yes I know it low elo and I suck ). It’s surprisingly really good (if you want to see stats ign sharkwaffle in NA )
I casually play it mid since s10 with spirit visage first against mages or directly liandry against melees. He's fucking hilarious please let it be a canon midlaner
3:09 that's not how the cooldown refund works.. The only way you don't get the 60% cdr is if you are cc'd out of it or if you cancel it early by performing another action.
In France we had one of the most famous lol streamer who mained fiddle mid. His humour, his craziness and his talent for lol was one of my favorite moment in my day. He is now retired and he deleted everything he ever done. He never remove his mask, he began in anonymity and returned to anonymity. I miss you Corobizar but i hope you're proud of what you've done and I wish you the best 😭
I remember I came up with a near identical build like this a couple years ago and it did pretty well ngl. Happy that someone better at the game can show its viability
why would pant not wait until he w's? the same goes for every melee cc champ facing this dude. and the only thing that wins games for fiddle is teamplay and vision
I wish they'd just revert his E ability back to his old version the crow throwing which was 10x better cooler funner and made him viable in lane oh well a man can dream :,)
@@overstimulatedboy01 nah its just an overall better ability that would make him useful in current meta but wtf u gonna do with current E in team fight vs Tank meta or assassin meta he's not OP like almost every other champ right now and this is ex fiddle main i still play every now and then its just now he isnt as fun nor as strong in 1v1 easily counterable tbh
The fact that he does take big raptor and leaves it for the Jungler so he can stack it is something people don’t even do in Diamond games. It’s insane how many in high Elo lacks info about and around the jungle. And yes I consider Diamond High Elo because the sample is ok low.
It might also just be because big raptor is awkward to take for fiddle mid as he would need to cycle through his abilities again and lose tempo in lane. I don't really see how leaving only 1 raptor for your jungler, denying them half the gold and xp is a good idea, as the jungler could just path away from the camp until it respawns.
I’m an avid jungle Fiddle player and always figured his kit was really only suited for jungle (and kinda support), guess I’ve been proven wrong. Pretty epic.
I'm a Fiddlesticks main. Yeah, I'm one of the 10 Fiddlesticks main (please don't take this seriously, I'm just saying that there's only a few Fiddlesticks main out there).I often used him as a support. Spellthief is the best item for him because he can't use wards. Playing the game with E start then Q or W, depends on the enemy. If Q, I place a control ward in the bush then I just chill there. Just spamming E to the enemy (if unseen the enemy will be feared which is pretty annoying to your enemies) until they just give up and tower hug. And in level 6, that's where you shine. It's VERY easy to engage with R. Dealing heavy damage while the enemy can't do anything. Just make sure you're unseen before using your R or else, your engage won't be as good because they can flash or do dashes or whatever. Fiddlesticks support is fun but is vulnerable to ganks. Anyways, I still want to share more but I know most people won't read it because this is pretty long, so I'm not going to put a lot of effort on this effort. TL;DR: I'm a Fiddlesticks main and I use him as a support.
Fiddle is easier than most mid heroes cuz his he can sustain a lot of dmg, however being this stealthy and effective ganker sure is NOT easy ngl. Still, he's my preference against melee mid
Everyone watching this thinking they will become a mid fiddlesticks now, goes in their first game and ends the game with 1/10, loses LP for him and his team and goes back to his main role.
I really enjoyed old Fiddle, far more than the new one, but I still did enjoy new fiddle a bit because it had a somewhat similar gameplay style, but holy fuck is that clapping noise on the autos so horrible that it made me stop playing him altogether.
he should use scary mannequin tactic sometimes. Out them randomly out in random positions and sometimes blend in. All i see is basic fiddlestick tactics and im silver.
Fun fact: If you get outtraded hard in lane you can go to your jungler camps and use W without killing the creeps. This way you will full heal and don't deny him as much as EXP to your jungler.
ive been playing lane fiddlesticks a lot and i suggest absolute focus over transendence vs laners you can stay healthy and poke with E. i usually run inspirational secondary with stopwatch and minion demat/biscuits for a better laning phase (i just dont like domination tree in general). i havent tried this but aftershock might work in the top lane vs champions who like to all in and can gap close easily like irelia/riven. happy sucking!
Everyone run it’s Middlesticks
Corobizar/Baramout ?
Middlesticks end of men
Middlesticks first of ten
Mordesticks
@@Balibarm Coro dans mon coeur à tout jamais
Was abt to say the same but guess you beat me to it,great comment tho XD
Fun fact. if you play against vlad and you use your W before his, you still dealing damage to him. His fog will not protect him from your sucking ability.
No one can deny a good fiddle job
because tethers are not broken by untargetability, just like old Swain Q and Karma W
He sucks the life outta u
Also fizz e trickster cannot stop sucking
he's drinking from the blood pool xD
OGs remember Fiddle vs Vlad mid lane and being able to slurp up his pool like a smoothie, lol
I absolutely love that Fiddle counters are mostly it's cooldowns.
Not as much as basic English grammar is yours.
@@Antarctide '- atleast you could understand the comment
The part where he goes to the raptors to heal and hit level 6 is actually pretty genius 🧐
lol why is that genius? you wouldnt have thought of it??
@@Giovanni-le4fv 🤓
@@Giovanni-le4fvthe main reason it’s genius is the enemy saw him level 5 and then he leaves vision and hits 6 without them knowing for a surprising engage with r. the healing didn’t really matter imo
@@Giovanni-le4fv🤓
@@Giovanni-le4fv no
There was a time where i wanted to make this work, i tried tank fiddle mid with frozen heart, visage and jacksho, sometimes fimbulwinter. The amount of oppression this pick has vs meelee is INSANE. My fav matchup was vs Akali because all her kit is counter by fiddle, W auto targets in her shroud and she can't burst you through your healing. Long live MIDDLESTICKS!
I've always known Fiddle is good in midlane, but I inted so much so I wasn't able to make it work to its full potential, but I'm glad this guy did.
I love playing him mid but I feed later on lol
Same lol
It’s definitely a different kind of play style that’s for sure
Qx
You forgot to mention an important fid tech: while channeling R if you press E during the channel it will fear after the blink, letting you fear outside of ult range but not needing flash like the W version
Mind elaborating? I tried it a couple ways and I think what you mean is from bush to outside of ult range and then E to fear enemy outside of range, is this it?
@@manny_here Uh i cant quite visualize what you mean but imagine this:
you are out of vision (either behind or wall or in a bush etc), you press R to ult but during the ult channel you press E, this will make Fiddle cast E right after he blinks
If you do this the E will fear even though it looked like you used it while everyone had vision on you. Because E has longer range than ult and Q, this tech is pretty useful to extend your range of catching people
If you didnt press E during the ult channel but instead after, you would just get the normal slow and silence
@@manny_here ruclips.net/video/NP2zdEKkilA/видео.html 2:05
@@hinh4808 Let me try again in training mode.
Fiddle jg main here, the absolute key is vision control, mind games, and PATIENCE. After you ult from certain angles like raptor pit and red/dragon bush, enemies will be wary and always try to ward, docking you the fear. Without fear on ult you pretty much int every fight. Condition enemy team to be scared of those areas and then start ulting from unusual places (the blink from ult can be HUGE at certain walls). It’s best to communicate to team that during fights they should bait the enemy to you, stalk bushes and be patient. Engaging first is good but once enemy blows their cooldowns and chase your team to you, into a mid-fight ult, it’s wraps.
I've been doing that lately..
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Nah. The key is simple. Land it from fog. No need to be aiming at the same spots.
This has to be the best lol related video I've seen in a while. No 5minutes introduction, no talking of some cliches just to fill the time, no ads and no begging for subs and likes.
Just pure knowledge. Well done.
0:22 "it's a good day for be an immobile mage"
0:25 *"AAAAHHHHH!!!!!"*
LMAO
This reminds me of that time I fought against a Fiddlesticks at top as Shen. It was hell since Fiddle is impossible to push against or even farm. Every time I try to CS, he will E then W me to harass. Trading is even worse since Shen only has 1 engage tool and way to cancel Fiddle's W. The moment I went in, he chunks me for half my HP with his combo.
people crying about new items and my boy middlesticks is just chilling
and of course you all never play middlesticks
I fuckin love the new items
@@Renar9670 I fuckin' love Middlesticks. Same with Support.
also another tip is fiddlesticks doesnt scale well with ap except his ult. If you are facing high hp tanks better go all ap pen, that will make ur Q damage cause 40% max hp damage or more making W final tick and Ult finish the job
Ty! 👊
@@goldenarmour7975 I know that emoji is supposed to be a fist bump ,but I couldn't stop laughing cause for a second it looked like you were punching the guy for giving out a tip
@@ubermaster1 sorry, bad habit.
This is just the kind of off-meta picks I’ve been waiting for a video about! 🙏🏻
Bro this channel is so effing underrated, you are a champion, love this channel
Additionally:
When casting ult pit of vision if you immediately cast while channeling it will feat whoever you hit giving you a bit of extra feat range with R
Makes me remember when I started in season 3, played only fiddlesticks mid.
and back then his silence used to bounce xD
@@nagapro3693 I forgot about the crow, honestly was annoying if he had a ton of ap and people stood next to you lol
Still preferred that tho, your drain is more consistent in both heal and damage even w/out extra targets. Fids is still good cause most if not all of his power budget is on his really great ult.
usually in most reworks I moved on but still can't get over this, I had many memories with the old drain, but as long as they bring it back and not bad, I'm good.
@@esRaortiz was busted, if drain was on you the bounces would auto-aim towards you. any time you are close to minion wave you lose half health, I loved it
God damn it, I have 300k mastery on the champ and I did not knew about the W-flash. You just made me learn something insane, especially when you explain the fear part with R W flash
I think if you're curious enough, you will X then instantly flash everything that's not instant-cast. Most skills that are not instant cast have like 0.25 cast time.
Mechanics like this make League have more depth, sadly Syndra's E Q skill expression was removed tho. That was also made possible cause E had a 0.25 cast time.
another interesting note! Fiddle q is not a projectile, so it goes right through yasuo windwall :)
Fiddlesticks is Pennywise in the League universe.
Absolutely horrifying and feeds off your fears.
R+F at 6:12 is sensational
Squeaky clean
Coming from a person who plays middle sticks myself , starting playing middle sticks after seeing pants are dragon play it tanky, tried it and solo Que and had a 60 % winrate in bronze 1 at the time (yes I know it low elo and I suck ). It’s surprisingly really good (if you want to see stats ign sharkwaffle in NA )
I casually play it mid since s10 with spirit visage first against mages or directly liandry against melees. He's fucking hilarious please let it be a canon midlaner
thanks for showing the stuff in practise tool aswell. really appreciated
Man I used to run middlestix way back when. It was good fun when I saw it back it then. Glad to see it's still coming up :D
Is it bad that I have got m7 fiddle from only playing him mid..
3:09 that's not how the cooldown refund works.. The only way you don't get the 60% cdr is if you are cc'd out of it or if you cancel it early by performing another action.
In France we had one of the most famous lol streamer who mained fiddle mid. His humour, his craziness and his talent for lol was one of my favorite moment in my day. He is now retired and he deleted everything he ever done. He never remove his mask, he began in anonymity and returned to anonymity.
I miss you Corobizar but i hope you're proud of what you've done and I wish you the best 😭
Thank you Dobby! Becuase of this video (probably) I collected free LP from enemy team picking fiddle against me 🤩🤩
I remember I came up with a near identical build like this a couple years ago and it did pretty well ngl. Happy that someone better at the game can show its viability
can't wait to test this out in my server (LAN) and in Gold 3, see you in either in Challenger or Iron
why would pant not wait until he w's? the same goes for every melee cc champ facing this dude. and the only thing that wins games for fiddle is teamplay and vision
The added key mash sound effect each time drain is used is hard to ignore and gets grating after the first 20 times.
I feel like Taliyah would be a decent counter to fiddle with how stationary he tends to be, easy knock up combos.
Soraka, Taliyah, Cho and Morg are Fiddle's worst matchups imo.
Those 4 is why i run cleanse on him in ARAMs :')
when he W's sounds like someone rapidly smashing their keys on their keyboard.
6:44 old Mordekaiser could do that illegal healing too
I used to love bullying mid laners and stealing enemy raptors at lvl 2 with Morde.
this is just like nunu mid where I think it's hilarious and genius how it's optimized but I would get so mad if I had to fight this
I always wanted to use Fiddle Mid and now i can try it with this video
THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION >:D
Mari pfp
@@Oki_wfsth the omor is real
oh so this is where the no.1 ph fiddlesticks got his inspiration
This is probably some crazy dude who is already a high ranker even among challengers
His game knowledge seems intense
I wish they'd just revert his E ability back to his old version the crow throwing which was 10x better cooler funner and made him viable in lane oh well a man can dream :,)
That ability was so broken in Aram 🤣
bro wants fiddle to be pick or ban champ which he already was without such change
@@ahmedarchambault260 i mean it still can be nerfed for aram just bring it back xD its fun and way more better ability than current E
@@overstimulatedboy01 nah its just an overall better ability that would make him useful in current meta but wtf u gonna do with current E in team fight vs Tank meta or assassin meta he's not OP like almost every other champ right now and this is ex fiddle main i still play every now and then its just now he isnt as fun nor as strong in 1v1 easily counterable tbh
@@redaboushehry1722 I mean, an AoE ranged silence+slow is not to be frowned upon lol
You know it's high level play when 5:33 the Vlad predicts the Fiddles R with W and still gets killed. What da fuc
The fact that he does take big raptor and leaves it for the Jungler so he can stack it is something people don’t even do in Diamond games. It’s insane how many in high Elo lacks info about and around the jungle. And yes I consider Diamond High Elo because the sample is ok low.
It might also just be because big raptor is awkward to take for fiddle mid as he would need to cycle through his abilities again and lose tempo in lane. I don't really see how leaving only 1 raptor for your jungler, denying them half the gold and xp is a good idea, as the jungler could just path away from the camp until it respawns.
yes obviously, but most junglers dont struggle with stacking their jungle item anyways, especially in high elo
You're like happychimenoises except without the redditor energy flowing into me
Off-Meta = fun, and this guy got it
A vueltooo😊
I used to love mid fiddle pre rework. I'm going to have to try this. Level 6 strat is exactly the same as mine 😂
Bro just turned mid lane to a horror flick 😂😂
"Its a fiddle in the middle"
Maybe some Mid Jayce? Seemed to pop off on msi. Great video as always❤
Feels like a missed opportunity to call this "Middlesticks".
you forgot that if someone hiding in a bush or behind a wall without seing them, you can see the option that you can use your W
Uff scary dude :D ty for the video :)
This middlesticks look even better than the old one
I’m an avid jungle Fiddle player and always figured his kit was really only suited for jungle (and kinda support), guess I’ve been proven wrong. Pretty epic.
MiDdLeStIcKs Is JuSt a FabLe; A StOrY tO sCaRe cHiLdRen
ive been playing this for a month or so and i climbed from silver up to plat in a few days-- the pick is super strong
I'm a Fiddlesticks main. Yeah, I'm one of the 10 Fiddlesticks main (please don't take this seriously, I'm just saying that there's only a few Fiddlesticks main out there).I often used him as a support. Spellthief is the best item for him because he can't use wards. Playing the game with E start then Q or W, depends on the enemy. If Q, I place a control ward in the bush then I just chill there. Just spamming E to the enemy (if unseen the enemy will be feared which is pretty annoying to your enemies) until they just give up and tower hug. And in level 6, that's where you shine. It's VERY easy to engage with R. Dealing heavy damage while the enemy can't do anything. Just make sure you're unseen before using your R or else, your engage won't be as good because they can flash or do dashes or whatever. Fiddlesticks support is fun but is vulnerable to ganks.
Anyways, I still want to share more but I know most people won't read it because this is pretty long, so I'm not going to put a lot of effort on this effort.
TL;DR: I'm a Fiddlesticks main and I use him as a support.
I guess "crittlesticks, middlesticks, or jungling - playing every role, can be anything" is true even after the rework
This guy is the definition of "League isn't hard enough, let me make it harder for myself"
Fiddle is easier than most mid heroes cuz his he can sustain a lot of dmg, however being this stealthy and effective ganker sure is NOT easy ngl. Still, he's my preference against melee mid
Haven't played Fiddle since his rework gonna have to try middlesticks forsure
Missed opportunity to name the account 'Middlesticks'
Hello! It's a french streamer called Narkuss 😉
Fiddle is my perma ban. My team can lead 8 kills but one good ult from fiddle and we lose the game. The fear duration feels longer than morg Q.
I'm a vlad main and fiddlesticks absolutely dumpsters on that champ, out sustains, outtrades, outpushes and has cc
I always pick this when I face Vladimir Top haha ( I used to main fiddle mid)
Time to go feed with fiddle in my ranked games.
Instructions unclear: am now Iron 2.
Please help
I remember back in s10 fiddle middle but its spirit visage rush
Finally with one of my favs champs 🥲
Its like a secret Dark souls boss
New Azir tips and tricks mby? After 13.5 he is a little bit different. From poking and permaprio mid to scaling champion
4:25 XD
All I got from this video is that I'm doubly convinced towers are weak these days.
All i remember is the song of the drain... HUIN HUIN HUIN YUAH
Everyone watching this thinking they will become a mid fiddlesticks now, goes in their first game and ends the game with 1/10, loses LP for him and his team and goes back to his main role.
10:59 Why stopwatch for Xayah ult 💀🤔
I saw a fid top destroying an olaf in a challenger stream recently
I really enjoyed old Fiddle, far more than the new one, but I still did enjoy new fiddle a bit because it had a somewhat similar gameplay style, but holy fuck is that clapping noise on the autos so horrible that it made me stop playing him altogether.
I'm not even a bronze, lmao, but zoe combo on the intro skipped an auto after the 1st q, if she did it properly she should had won that.
he should use scary mannequin tactic sometimes. Out them randomly out in random positions and sometimes blend in. All i see is basic fiddlestick tactics and im silver.
0:12 1 hp
yeah my not-grandmaster skill level won't pull it off
OTP Fizz suddenly appears.
Can you make a video about Quinn?
Fun fact: If you get outtraded hard in lane you can go to your jungler camps and use W without killing the creeps. This way you will full heal and don't deny him as much as EXP to your jungler.
There was a segment on this in the video.
First clip featuring Riot’s newest bot addition. Welcome Zoe.
Fiddle in the middle, classic
No jungle mains on your channel :) My role is doom'ed
There's .. A.. Fiddle in the Middle..
im still confused on why some players in korea include "king" in their name.. is there some story behind that?
Ingenious Hunter/Cosmic Insight
Irelia: E R Q E Q Q W AA AA AA AA AA + Ignite
Fiddle: W 🗿
Oh my fucking god! He pressed W!
ive been playing lane fiddlesticks a lot and i suggest absolute focus over transendence vs laners you can stay healthy and poke with E. i usually run inspirational secondary with stopwatch and minion demat/biscuits for a better laning phase (i just dont like domination tree in general). i havent tried this but aftershock might work in the top lane vs champions who like to all in and can gap close easily like irelia/riven. happy sucking!
Runes and build?
People forget how Fiddlesticks WAS a midlaner before Rito once again butchered a good champion into trash
can u do a video about mundo?
the refund of the cooldown in W is a big nuisance. basically making it a spammable aoe heal. 😩
HOLY FUCK. LS WAS RIGHT ABOUT LIANDRY. ZAMN!
This feels like a baus angle