@@iliesseelhaouari2731 yeah , alistair getting too much damage would be extremely unhealthy , as much as i like him , he is just too consistent to get that much damage Gragas per example only has one "point and click" and its a rather slow melee attack , and all of his skills are skill shots on the slower side (except for point blank body slam)
even before the item rework, someone hit masters with top alistar tank just because of sunfire and pure tank. S12 Sunfire was probably the most broken mythic overall after all the nerfs to the mythic items and people still didn't realize that. Now it's just a shadow of its former glory
it's been a while since ali got used on lane but he can get easily countered. He is annoying to fight against, but you just need to treat him like cho gath, he has a terrible wave clear until he gets some items, so knowing how to manage waves can be a huge tool to lock him up in his tower where you can roam freely.
I quote Riot here : " For those of you who are fans of Wizard Cow, he doesn't appear to be very good as a mage and we're not intending for that to be the case any time soon"
"How is this working?" I dunno... might have to do with the point and click 100% ap ratio W with the unavoidable 90% ap Q. 🤔 No... no that's not the problem, riot balancing is totally fine Edit: 2:49 is amazing
Idk why he would pick it into Camille, she is one of the worst matchups for him I would imagine as you can neither build tank or ap against her, she wins 1v1 after divine, and it's difficult to peel your carries from a Camille when she has r... Haven't tried the matchup though, so I am not totally sure
Since it is high elo its veeeery hard to get in range to be able to Q-Flash combo someone knowing they will die to it and expect it, that is why W is used there to account for the extra-distance, even though on the clip we could argue it could maybe be enough. Also, W can be input-buffered and using flash-w-q is slower and risks zed e.g flashing out while W is cast, I think on the play buffered W-Flash-Q is used instead making the combo much faster and smoother, and less likely to mess up as its not that easy to close-range W-Q straight after flash.
it's like better version of Rakan mid. Though playing support mid feels awful when your team is too braindead to path mid to gank when you have free kill setup.
If you want to counter this use cassio or poppy, their grounding mechanic deny his engages, poppy has the only type of cc (flying him tf out) that is effective against him and a good cassio player will feed on grass fed 🐄 all lane
Tahm I am not sure but Voli? You'll get locked into the wall by Alistar once lategame CDR is a thing. (knock to wall, airborne, stun --> literally sandbag for Alistar ally to shred you)
I have noticed through extensive testing that A-sol can't do anything vs alistar. I even take electrocute in that match up and end up with no less than 4 kills in laning phase
Aye, alistar has too many cc close range to just counter everything asol do, ahari too can counter in wave clear and short cooldown if asol E+Q then Ahri can respond to E+Q+W back winning trades and getting healed by the passive
4:35 Not to mention the faster clears *has to speed up the video because of how slow the clear is* (sure, the clear may be faster than lvl 3 but it's still painfully slow)
Is pissed me of that riot makings these radom buffs for certain champ like i mean is pro play is soo boring now, Zeri Yummi, Lucian nami , is doesn’t stop i want these kind of champ pick in pro play soo bad riot just nerf him 1 patch later suck too see LOL dont have the creativity anymore
because hes playing in diamond 2? not challenger. I think he could win on anything this is showmaker we are talking about. but anything for your clickbaits
Use Moo Cow Alistar skin so you can constantly emote on your opponent to bait their engage (works every time)
Counter: mute
@@2d-kun158 mute does not prevent enemy from ctrl+3
@@2d-kun158 mute only works on emojis you’d have to mute the sound effect within your setting to mute champion emotes
@@hyperwinder ye but pp still say poppy counter fiora
ding ding ding ding ding
the way showmaker plays Alistar reminds me a lot of Gragas phase rush.
It works really well on Amumu too, especially for full AP or support
@@ColbyJacked you cant mute danse
Step 1: Be Showmaker
definitely want this pick sustainable in the future.
Alistar is just too fun to be a support only role.
Let make him like gragas.
U mean point and click trade /burst dmg with insane damage reduction? If they buff his ap ratios even further that would make him too cancer
@@iliesseelhaouari2731 yeah , alistair getting too much damage would be extremely unhealthy , as much as i like him , he is just too consistent to get that much damage
Gragas per example only has one "point and click" and its a rather slow melee attack , and all of his skills are skill shots on the slower side (except for point blank body slam)
@@iliesseelhaouari2731 Alistar AP top and mid and even AP support was a top pick many years ago. Even during 1st championship iirc
@@Larkian Even bruiser top was insane. Triforce + statik shiv before they patched his w auto interaction. GG
even before the item rework, someone hit masters with top alistar tank just because of sunfire and pure tank. S12 Sunfire was probably the most broken mythic overall after all the nerfs to the mythic items and people still didn't realize that. Now it's just a shadow of its former glory
God bless Phreak and his changes
Gragas mains have another pick to annoy everyone now
I literally switched from gragas to alistar after these buffs LOL
its good to see Alistar gets some love, it is such a funny champion to play with
I saw Alicopter playing mid Alistar with Davemon, didn't expect it to be actually viable
Last patch gave his q and w 10% increased ap
I knew this was coming after those insane AP ratio buffs.
i've seen so many things that its hard to make me laugh, but seeing the Alistar terrorize jax cracked me up.
Great editing on this one, good stuff!
6:50 GOAT taric
Great video
Man's definitely having fun 0:07
Btw q w e is slow but e w q is insta phase rush.
Deathfire grasp Alistar combo. Who else remembers?
Haven't encountered it sadly. I did experienced the Sheen Alistar top in its earlier days.
Shushei would be proud
once i saw those q and e buffs I knew alistar mid would make a comeback
Nightmare of URF is now ranked nightmare😱
it's been a while since ali got used on lane but he can get easily countered. He is annoying to fight against, but you just need to treat him like cho gath, he has a terrible wave clear until he gets some items, so knowing how to manage waves can be a huge tool to lock him up in his tower where you can roam freely.
Maxing W first is better. Also props to Alicopter, the OG. He started playing AP cow minutes after patch release.
Was that Zed99, I watched his video recently
Alicopter has been doing this for awhile as well
My only wish is for riot to make jg Alistar a thing. If they could just give him some extra dmg on monsters it would be nice
I quote Riot here : " For those of you who are fans of Wizard Cow, he doesn't appear to be very good as a mage and we're not intending for that to be the case any time soon"
What are these idiots basing themselves on ? 🤣
They aren't wrong lol
was expecting this is heavely countered with sylas, you mention it at the end of video .... we are the same.
"How is this working?"
I dunno... might have to do with the point and click 100% ap ratio W with the unavoidable 90% ap Q. 🤔 No... no that's not the problem, riot balancing is totally fine
Edit: 2:49 is amazing
The BM is mandatory
I miss the days of AP Alistar with headbut and the auto after with sheen proc, was actually unplayable for the opponent, it had no counterplay xD
"The mages will always outpush you, but they'll come to regret it after a gank" hhm a gank ..... we dont have the same games
I had an alistar top in my game, instalock into a camile. He went 1/14
Too bad it only works in KR not in NA
Idk why he would pick it into Camille, she is one of the worst matchups for him I would imagine as you can neither build tank or ap against her, she wins 1v1 after divine, and it's difficult to peel your carries from a Camille when she has r... Haven't tried the matchup though, so I am not totally sure
Her q literally does true damage
@@karlrose405 from the way he told, seems like he picked Camille to counterpick Alistar, not vice versa
@@RavenClaw2291 no, I meant a member from my team instalocking alistar into a camil top, knowing what he will be facing up against.
Referring to around 1:45 where the solo kill happened, can you Q then flash to be faster?
Since it is high elo its veeeery hard to get in range to be able to Q-Flash combo someone knowing they will die to it and expect it, that is why W is used there to account for the extra-distance, even though on the clip we could argue it could maybe be enough.
Also, W can be input-buffered and using flash-w-q is slower and risks zed e.g flashing out while W is cast, I think on the play buffered W-Flash-Q is used instead making the combo much faster and smoother, and less likely to mess up as its not that easy to close-range W-Q straight after flash.
it's like better version of Rakan mid. Though playing support mid feels awful when your team is too braindead to path mid to gank when you have free kill setup.
The shy is the real one playing top Alistair
Trollistar is canon now
If you want to counter this use cassio or poppy, their grounding mechanic deny his engages, poppy has the only type of cc (flying him tf out) that is effective against him and a good cassio player will feed on grass fed 🐄 all lane
how does he fare against tahm kench or volibear later in the game? is he able to sustain against their tankiness and sustainability?
Tahm I am not sure but Voli? You'll get locked into the wall by Alistar once lategame CDR is a thing.
(knock to wall, airborne, stun --> literally sandbag for Alistar ally to shred you)
I have noticed through extensive testing that A-sol can't do anything vs alistar. I even take electrocute in that match up and end up with no less than 4 kills in laning phase
Aye, alistar has too many cc close range to just counter everything asol do, ahari too can counter in wave clear and short cooldown if asol E+Q then Ahri can respond to E+Q+W back winning trades and getting healed by the passive
fiora counter everything lol
Except Urgot
@@dismaldice3045 and garen
Dude isn't that Zed99 too? LOL
Can't believe this season 1 meta is back in KR challenger
4:35 Not to mention the faster clears
*has to speed up the video because of how slow the clear is*
(sure, the clear may be faster than lvl 3 but it's still painfully slow)
Would heartsteel not work well?
Yeah, this only seams to work if the Jungler plays for you.
Which in my elo is a long stretch :D
rmb old ali where his passive did xtra dmg to jg and his e was the heal? best ap ali
What does anti carry mean
That auto at 00:24 is “fair” pretty sure Alistar isn’t a ranged champ 🤣
That also got me confused. Never happens when I play him
Is it post or pre buff?
Finally I can use lunar beast Ali
This champ needed something after being in the garbage for a year
Alistar Ap os OP
imagine losing in challenger as zed vs alistar, thats a wrap for your lol career
The only way i can explain fighting a good alistar mid is "Are you playing the game? Play Harder"
Riot want to bring back old strategy. Now the only thing left is buff for his jungle damage.
Im laughing hard looking at that zed
Thanks riot
I like it but I think Electrocute and Luden's Echo would be a better comp late game, could potentially one shot squishies.
What have they unleashed 😂
Truly a safe pick and annoying to play against truly tilting the enemy is the fastest way to win
BEST PATCH IN THE PAST 5 YEARS
zed was ZED99
the first clip was showmaker vs zed99 the rank 1 zed in korea LMAO
acturally i use W of him to prevent opp taking exp if he far enouch
why does alistar look so fun with rocketbelt
8:18 you mean F W not W F right?
Special: Have to has Moo Cow Alistar and spam taught + W
Ignite or TP ?
TP
Basically the same concept playing Zac mid.
pretty much riven?
the real difference here is that Showmaker actually has teammates with brain. I don't. He is being carried.
essa ideia eh do yiok
I use electrocute and it hard wins lane :)
New alistar: Malphite Ap
"But how is this working in challenger?"
2/7/15... yeahhh it's kinda still a troll pick.
This is the counter to RIOT new chat ban system
wtfff is that auto range at 0:24 thats like kaisa auto range
I think Ali’s E stun makes his next auto attack uncancellable, he started autoing before Heca got out of range
bluetooth autoattack
DK let showmaker cook & pick alistar mid in lck match pls 😂
Allistar got an AP Scale buff and I know something weird will occur in KR 💀
S3-S4 triforce ali mid may he RIP
And he just got more buffs....
AP K'sante 💀
Zed was zed99, def lost lane but they did win that game🤣
U cant q flash on ali fix your mistake
Garen mid hard counter
renekton please
el tio barri lleva 30 años adelantado con la vaquita loca JAJAJAJA estos coreanos no saben nada xd
Jax players in shambles.
Moo Cow is pay to win
alistar mid is more of a galio 2.0 pick
Zeds name is Stupidzed lol
Challenger is really just bronze with a fancier name.
ye evertyhing is fune untill you will play agaist poke champion mid ;)
Is pissed me of that riot makings these radom buffs for certain champ like i mean is pro play is soo boring now, Zeri Yummi, Lucian nami , is doesn’t stop i want these kind of champ pick in pro play soo bad riot just nerf him 1 patch later suck too see LOL dont have the creativity anymore
1:53, this was not a reaction just a coincidence
haha ZED99
First
because hes playing in diamond 2? not challenger. I think he could win on anything this is showmaker we are talking about. but anything for your clickbaits
T5 useless
BUt how is this working in challenger ? Easy, League = trash game for some good years. Ngl i love watching skilled players do it anyway.