i find that alot of people underestimate jax's early power. but then again in higher ranks, people are less likely to want to lose prio so they try to contest and it becomes sorta like this instead
@@Rankedskywar yes Rene missplayed you are right. Else Jax wouldn't stomp him, but fi ti makes you feel any better this Jax or any other high elo Jax would style even harder on you. Kinda why this Rene and Jax are high elo and you are hardstuck
@@XIplupIX AHAHAH bro you're a silver hardstuck. I am literally a NACL amateur player. And yes most likely he will because I'm a ADC main. Just like I would do the same to him if he autofills adc against me. If you don't think rene misplayed you're just a delusional silver that cant play league. He ego play so hard, and he shouldn't even walk into top brush at all. Rene doesn't get prior against jax in any scenario.
The Jax rework looks like a fun refresh of a classic champion, but my god some of the animations feel janky and awkward in-game. Definitely gonna re-watch this once it gets cleaned up though.
It's a lane counter more than anything, since she can block every second Q trade and do great damage with her Q while still building tanky. Her ult also just generally makes sticky champions sad in teamfights.
Zhonyas makes sense to me. Gives him more tankiness and burst, and after he pops his E if he’s ever in danger he can use Zhonyas to buy time for his E to come back up again or even ward hop out. It’s genius actually.
This might be the only time I learned just one new thing from these videos, maybe because Jax is extremely basic and straight forward. The krug trick is cool though.
his dives imo are impressive, i dive often on jax but the way he masterfully dives when the opponent is only half hp is cool to me. I also never thought about just going a zhonyas thats smart
(2:40) Yea and if opponent is not the smartest you can go W lvl2 since they will be prepared to dash/flash away E but won't expect instant burst from Q+GraspAA+W+Ignite. (75% it's going to work if you play rankeds at like 3AM with bunch of all-nighters rage queuing)
Stop going doran shield vs melee. You think renekton would have fared better because of HP regen, but then Jax knows he has D shield, and therefore, less AD, and all ins him even easier. Stop thinking you could do better, and stop underestimating the player's opponents
@@BrokDoidao You are going to lose all-ins vs lethal tempo jax regardless of which item you go. Now you just lose both short trades and long trades. Stop thinking you know anything about anything when you are silver iv
@@BrokDoidao how can Jax all in a Rek with 2 dash ? It just that Rek too dumb to save his E for trading and get out of Jax all in Just out sustain him. Jax dont have any healing. Lol
Malphite really, and it's not even because he can kill you. It's because he's going to bore you at top, then gets an easy kill with his jungle at level 6 before getting 200+ armor at 12 minutes.
"Chip damage" does not refer to attacks that hit you and deal damage. "Chip damage" specifically refers to the small amount of penalty damage taken when blocking an attack.
@@Rites455 And in response I say "sure man" to the idea that chip damage ever meant anything except for a small amount of penalty damage taken when blocking an attack.
footwork is pretty much the coolest part of league's micro gameplay (which is why sweetspot champs have the best designs imo), so the man would be respectable if jax wasn't such a boring stat-checker of a champ. though that lies more so with how his e works than anything. unconditional immunity is just bad design, if it decreased damage or had a drawback like pantheon's directional block, jax would be infinitely less degenerate
1:45 jax overextending at 3 min mark, without vision or your own jungle so enemy jung comes to gank over and over until jax ends up 0/5 losing the game. gg ez
I think you can go for AP if your team lacks AP damage. Other than that there's no reason to build full AP. What surprises me is that people don't build hybrid builds (which used to be really good on Jax back in the day). You know something like Sunderer + Nashors.
Honestly I feel really neutral about his r changes. I mean I liked his old one, simple straightforward. What I most despise are his icon changes. God are they ugly now.
Oh yes, Im miss you Jax so much. Now, when all forget how can be strong the lamppost in right hands from the early game to late game then Im will have a lot of fun! Thx for refresh Rito
Counters: Gragas, Malphite, Illaoi, Garen, Urgot I prefer Tf blade as he is noticeably better on Jax Also the build is extremely situational and building wrong could make you useless for the rest of the game.Sunderer is best first item rn, but usually if they have at least 1 ap wits end is better than bork, cleaver 3rd is best damage and tankiness and cdr source for team fighting and tank shredding then dd or maw into zhonyas/ga
@@acenia1342 Illaoi is definitely unplayable in high elo you have a brief window of 3 levels to get an advantage and an entire game of farming under tower and you cant even outscale with even items as she is simply stronger. As to prove my point further 4 days ago TF blade did a race to challenger and during his 86 games he faced an illaoi in D1 and went 2/12. If rank1 losing lane so hard to a d1 isn't enough proof then idk what is. Stevens, rangerzx, hushen they all hate Illaoi.
@@LoLDobby well honestly i only noticed it at the end when you point out that hitting multiple people with jax ult gives more resists, but i cant read his resists, so using a zoom there could be good at least. great video as always though of course!
4:00 kennen AA Jax and minnions agro him for about 50-100 sh HP who knows maybe he would survive or maybe got more CS if he didnt hit him.... fuck me he missed cannon
You forgot to mention, when Jax dives the Kennen, he doesnt attack the kennen right away because he's waiting for him to use his stun. If Jax attacks right away, Kennen stuns him under tower and therefore, he dies.
I agree, Jax is like Yasuo or Irelia. You just cant 1v1 him after he gets his core, even if he is far behind. I had games as Renekton where i was an item and some levels over him, but once he reached lvl 9 and his first item,i just couldnt contest the lane, which should never happen imo.
Where i can found his match history can any one helo me i am a new jax user so i want to know how to play,with him in every match up,which run and which build plz
no way i will watch it all, stoped at about 3 mins, grasp is smart in some matchups however lethal tempo will be better in most, simillar to yasuo, regarding items, i think zhoyna and nashor are the only two you can consider, but most of the times wits end or botrk would be better then nashor, divine is by far the best item for now
i find that alot of people underestimate jax's early power. but then again in higher ranks, people are less likely to want to lose prio so they try to contest and it becomes sorta like this instead
Rene hard trolled… he lost prio already
@@Rankedskywar yes Rene missplayed you are right. Else Jax wouldn't stomp him, but fi ti makes you feel any better this Jax or any other high elo Jax would style even harder on you. Kinda why this Rene and Jax are high elo and you are hardstuck
@@XIplupIXyoure hardstucked aswell xD so stfu
@@XIplupIX AHAHAH bro you're a silver hardstuck. I am literally a NACL amateur player. And yes most likely he will because I'm a ADC main. Just like I would do the same to him if he autofills adc against me. If you don't think rene misplayed you're just a delusional silver that cant play league. He ego play so hard, and he shouldn't even walk into top brush at all. Rene doesn't get prior against jax in any scenario.
@@Rankedskywar Ah yes rankedskywar my favorte amateur player. No lolpros or leagueqpedia. Also i said he missplayed.
The Jax rework looks like a fun refresh of a classic champion, but my god some of the animations feel janky and awkward in-game. Definitely gonna re-watch this once it gets cleaned up though.
goofy ahh autoattacks
Looks like they got the intern that opened blender once in his life to animate his ult it's so hideous
Nah the passive autos after 6. He like uses the other end of his stick and I see what they trynna do there but just nah to goofy
@@abhishekgrewal8906 in MK skin the 3rd auto feels so slow
Riot said that that's the point of this update, to avoid updating his visuals
My memo
Main Runes for each opponent (From his opgg, im just a plat noob)
-- When precision and resolve trees are picked --
If he takes "Tenacity" from precision sub tree, he tend to take overgrowth
If he takes "unflinching" from resolve sub tree, he tend to take alacrity
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sorce = usually mana + scorch
Poppy: Lethal Resolve / Grasp Sorce
Fiora: Conq Insp (TP ignite)
Garen: Lethal resolve (Flash exhaust)
Gnar: Grasp sorce
Darius: Phase rush Insp (Flash ignite)
Ksante: Grasp insp / Lethal resolve
Sion: Lethal resolve
Akaki: lethal insp (TP ignite)
Wukong: Lethal resolve
Gangplank GP: Lethal Resolve / Phase rush insp
Shen: Grasp sorce
Vladmir: Grasp sorce
Ornn: Conq insp
Kled: Grasp sorce
Quinn: Lethal grasp (Flash exaust)
Pantheon: Grasp sorce
Olaf: Lethal sorce (Flash ignite)
illaoi: Grasp sorce
Malphite: Grasp sorce
Riven: Lethal insp (Flash exaust)
Mundo: Lethal insp (Flash ignite)
It was cool to see at 3:55 that they also waited for Kennen to waste their stun proc before diving him and taking turret aggro. So patiently played
If you one trick a champion my theory is you spend a lot more time learning how to play optimally vs certain champs
Just noticed it as well. I didnt understand at first why he risked losing so much hp but then I got it
Love how Poppy shows up on the counters just as she dies to Hushen
3 levels plus team.
It's a lane counter more than anything, since she can block every second Q trade and do great damage with her Q while still building tanky. Her ult also just generally makes sticky champions sad in teamfights.
Zhonyas makes sense to me. Gives him more tankiness and burst, and after he pops his E if he’s ever in danger he can use Zhonyas to buy time for his E to come back up again or even ward hop out. It’s genius actually.
5:27 sylas be like: wait what?
He did not play the new Jax ahaha, I also saw that! It gave me a lil chuckle
More like "Understandable. Have a nice day"
Sylas obv mistake there, not that jax played well
7:01 delicious jax asmr
Now imagine if he had a real weapon.
0:22 he also waited for the plates rune thing to run out...
This might be the only time I learned just one new thing from these videos, maybe because Jax is extremely basic and straight forward. The krug trick is cool though.
his dives imo are impressive, i dive often on jax but the way he masterfully dives when the opponent is only half hp is cool to me. I also never thought about just going a zhonyas thats smart
@@chessplatypus4769 zhonyas is arguably valuable even on champs with no ap scaling, highly situational but its just too broken of an item sometimes
This guy just really knows his damage ridiculously well
Can't believe Hushen Huya is still alive.
wait a min, is this the Hushen Huya who popularized the Tank Jax build back in round s6-s7?
Yep
7:34 jax e can proc sheen twice if u click e2
No
@@brianaraujo2268 yes
@@brianaraujo2268 Yes
@@STALKERstealth9 No
No
Looking at this guy is really interesting, you can easily see how this guy plays compared to your average high elo jax
Thanks for the rework Riot. "Footwork" are the pearls of this video
Recognizing enemy gameplan and playing against it is so important...
Love snd respects Btw
Thank you for your time. I'm learning from this
(2:40) Yea and if opponent is not the smartest you can go W lvl2 since they will be prepared to dash/flash away E but won't expect instant burst from Q+GraspAA+W+Ignite.
(75% it's going to work if you play rankeds at like 3AM with bunch of all-nighters rage queuing)
It's actually insane how much better all of this would have been for renekton if he started dorans shield instead of blade
yes that true =)))
Stop going doran shield vs melee. You think renekton would have fared better because of HP regen, but then Jax knows he has D shield, and therefore, less AD, and all ins him even easier.
Stop thinking you could do better, and stop underestimating the player's opponents
@@BrokDoidao You are going to lose all-ins vs lethal tempo jax regardless of which item you go. Now you just lose both short trades and long trades. Stop thinking you know anything about anything when you are silver iv
The way you win this matchup is by outsustaining the jax, not all-ins.
@@BrokDoidao how can Jax all in a Rek with 2 dash ? It just that Rek too dumb to save his E for trading and get out of Jax all in
Just out sustain him. Jax dont have any healing. Lol
gragas prob harder counter than malphite imo
imo its malphite gragas
poppy is a awkward lane but winnable i think
Malphite really, and it's not even because he can kill you. It's because he's going to bore you at top, then gets an easy kill with his jungle at level 6 before getting 200+ armor at 12 minutes.
9:50 that was sick
Making me want to play Jax again 😬
Another amazing Dobby video
In my games when I do the 1 step backward, the enemy didn't follow, they just keep running away =)))
Congrats for 200k Dobby
Thank you so much !!
Do you know when he decides to take grasp over lethal tempo?
Something agressive in lane that you will lose to if you dont get lethal tempo like fiora irelia gwen etc
3:59 i think he waited for the stun on purpose to not be stunned when diving
"Chip damage" does not refer to attacks that hit you and deal damage. "Chip damage" specifically refers to the small amount of penalty damage taken when blocking an attack.
i mean,it could also be small amounts of dmg, terms can be interchangeable for different game genres
@@Rites455 I am telling you there is no common usage of the term "chip damage" outside of the one I just explained.
sure man.@@tuckvison
@@Rites455 And in response I say "sure man" to the idea that chip damage ever meant anything except for a small amount of penalty damage taken when blocking an attack.
Good video, but i expected to hear more about when to use TriForce and when Lethal Tempo.
if you can keep hitting your target go triforce and tempo, if its short trades go grasp and sunder
seems like challenger players focus on more details than lower elo ones
That early game was beautiful against renek
Awesome vid!
Thank you :)
When i need to play Lettal and when i need to play grasp ?
When do you go grasp and letho
imagine if he had a real weapon
Can you do kindred pls? :)
Any chance to get adc video in near future?
Sure !!
footwork is pretty much the coolest part of league's micro gameplay (which is why sweetspot champs have the best designs imo), so the man would be respectable if jax wasn't such a boring stat-checker of a champ. though that lies more so with how his e works than anything. unconditional immunity is just bad design, if it decreased damage or had a drawback like pantheon's directional block, jax would be infinitely less degenerate
1:45 jax overextending at 3 min mark, without vision or your own jungle so enemy jung comes to gank over and over until jax ends up 0/5 losing the game. gg ez
Good shit jax eat up! Love to see it. Sooooo strong
Honestly is malphite even a counter anymore ?
You can always go ap and new ratios might make it worth it this matchup.
9:04 hear the sound:))
Can you please give information about what elo are these games played at? You mention he is Challenger but i doubt that kennen game was challenger
Grandmaster. In Korea, he hasn't played games recently, so there are few samples
When graps? when lethal tempo?
Grasp into champions that can avoid your damage.
Grag, Kennen, Malphite. You basically only go Grasp into hard match ups
Renekton too
Grasps when you get to CN super server, otherwise LT
Grasps when you get to CN super server, otherwise LT
Can u make video about xiaochaomeng ? Top laner challenger of CN super sever
I'll take a look :)
but why grasp? why not LT?
because he plays in 1500lp lobbies literally every opponent will kite his LT out, in elo not that high LT is far better yes
When do u go grasp
was here for the zhonyas, got robbed
I’m surprised there’s no AP Jax build. Thought that is going to become meta
ap is very squishy - doesnt scale as well as ad + useless if you're behind
ap is fotm built by ppl who dont know better, if you fall behind you're completely useless
main draw is big aoe burst, but if you're going to do that, just play diana
I think you can go for AP if your team lacks AP damage. Other than that there's no reason to build full AP.
What surprises me is that people don't build hybrid builds (which used to be really good on Jax back in the day). You know something like Sunderer + Nashors.
@@walkelftexasranger Why go nashors when there are a million better items you can get first? Death's dance, wits end, maw, tank items, etc
Honestly I feel really neutral about his r changes. I mean I liked his old one, simple straightforward.
What I most despise are his icon changes. God are they ugly now.
"steal enemy camps":
take red side krug
Oh yes, Im miss you Jax so much. Now, when all forget how can be strong the lamppost in right hands from the early game to late game then Im will have a lot of fun! Thx for refresh Rito
The whole time he was one gank away from dying
a high elo player can read the map
hushen actually means “tiger god”
Counters: Gragas, Malphite, Illaoi, Garen, Urgot
I prefer Tf blade as he is noticeably better on Jax
Also the build is extremely situational and building wrong could make you useless for the rest of the game.Sunderer is best first item rn, but usually if they have at least 1 ap wits end is better than bork, cleaver 3rd is best damage and tankiness and cdr source for team fighting and tank shredding then dd or maw into zhonyas/ga
imagine saying illaoi is a counter to jax xd
@@acenia1342 Illaoi is definitely unplayable in high elo you have a brief window of 3 levels to get an advantage and an entire game of farming under tower and you cant even outscale with even items as she is simply stronger.
As to prove my point further 4 days ago TF blade did a race to challenger and during his 86 games he faced an illaoi in D1 and went 2/12. If rank1 losing lane so hard to a d1 isn't enough proof then idk what is. Stevens, rangerzx, hushen they all hate Illaoi.
imagine being such a clown to play jax
@@xavierbellet6355 looks like one of my brothers took ur lp. Stay salty.
Sejuani is one of the biggest counters
it'd be nice if you increased the HUD size, it's very hard to read the champion stats on the bottom left
But then the gameplay screen becomes too small.I'm sorry
@@LoLDobby well honestly i only noticed it at the end when you point out that hitting multiple people with jax ult gives more resists, but i cant read his resists, so using a zoom there could be good at least. great video as always though of course!
And mind control enemy jg to never gank
0:05 ah yes classic. diving someone with 75% hp as a late-game champ with sheen hearthbound axe. nothing to see here
In .JPG, he builds with Zhonya.
In gameplay, he will never builds Zhonya.
9:08 listen
what's his lethal tempo runes
Pls do a vid about XCM
4:00 kennen AA Jax and minnions agro him for about 50-100 sh HP who knows maybe he would survive or maybe got more CS if he didnt hit him.... fuck me he missed cannon
Auto Attack on purpose .... XD u cannot AA your self kennen duck up
Apenas mais um fã do Nick Link.
what jacques e does
Can u make a new tahm one after the buffs!
Genius
Do something like this video but with Kat pls
is there Fiora or GP tutorial?
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=dobby+fiora
ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=dobby+gangplank
Why did they think it made sense to allow Jax to jump attack Friendly's? Dumb choice on Riot's part.
Does he always go Grasp now?
He usually picks Grasp against someone who can hit for a short time
@@LoLDobby Yeah. Thank you friend
This jax has no counters 😎
dopa elogiou ele só porque não conheceu o Nicklink.
You forgot to mention, when Jax dives the Kennen, he doesnt attack the kennen right away because he's waiting for him to use his stun. If Jax attacks right away, Kennen stuns him under tower and therefore, he dies.
That's what I wrote down. If the meaning was conveyed differently, it's my fault
4:19
If you fall behind is okay, the champ is broken and can 1x1 anyone in the game with just one item even if he's 2 levels behind
Not really
I agree, Jax is like Yasuo or Irelia. You just cant 1v1 him after he gets his core, even if he is far behind. I had games as Renekton where i was an item and some levels over him, but once he reached lvl 9 and his first item,i just couldnt contest the lane, which should never happen imo.
@@angeltzepesh1 Dont put yasuo near jax irelia, Without shieldbow up yasuo is a minion
Where i can found his match history can any one helo me i am a new jax user so i want to know how to play,with him in every match up,which run and which build plz
I think this channel will be good
www.youtube.com/@hushenreplay/featured
@@LoLDobby Tnx YOU sir😇😇
Kinda broken to me and it is going to be perma banned when i'm playing top, what champ can even match him
I think counter jax is gragas and poppy
Them AP rations are tasty. Yum ;)
laughs in juggernaut
Genius :3
personally i do not think he can scale out and win more than 50% of games with grasp of the undying.
i do note that he has high jax mastery and can lane well.
he knows minion aggro like the back of his hand, the tower trick with the minions i have never seen in 10 years.
no way i will watch it all, stoped at about 3 mins, grasp is smart in some matchups however lethal tempo will be better in most, simillar to yasuo, regarding items, i think zhoyna and nashor are the only two you can consider, but most of the times wits end or botrk would be better then nashor, divine is by far the best item for now
Jax should be unable to AA during E , it makes his trades too op and you cant even hurt him , just a better nilah W
@Jason Hardin ye but im talking about toplane where you 1v1
ty bro
Counters: poppy malphite kennen gragas
Can you talk about an akali player?
lol can't wait to play Jax support🤪
6:40 shen using 0 technology
too bad his ban rate is so high now
these vids have the most NPC comments ever
Does hashinshin still whine about Kennen nowadays? Would love to see him watching how this Jax manhandled the wannabe Pikachu
One jax trick I never see get used is to Q a minion to spend the W proc while pushing towers.
Is this the same Hushen that made titanic hydra jax popular?
lvl 2 prio meanwhile renekton hit lvl 2 before him kekw XD
Hushenshin?
brilliant
2:12 "Anyways" isn't a word...
It is though
Jax real counters:
without time stamps its pain to watch