Norwegian here. Thank you so much for the opportunity and your interest in us. Other politicians in the US should check this video out to see what respectful, intellectual conversations can do. We all learn from them and bond over them. Thank you for leading by example Bernie. You have been a light of hope in the dark four/five years of the Trump era.
@@cindycooksfordogs3173 Sadly, that´s often the case. I struggled with that for a long time, but i´m really feeling this is changing with younger americans today. Som i´m hopeful that it will change with time. Sadly, it´ll take time.
Interesting takeaway: Median income in Norway is $60,000 taxed at 26% = $44,400 take home pay Median income in US is $31,000 taxed at 13.2% = $26,908 take home pay That's a 39% or $17,492 disparity. Now consider: Americans pay an average of $456/month for health insurance Norwegians pay a maximum of $29.10/month Americans pay an average of $100/month for prescription meds Norwegians pay $0, it is built in to the $29.10 maximum cost of healthcare Americans pay an average of $1,230/month for one infant's childcare Norwegians pay a maximum of $340/month Just considering those costs: Norwegians have $4,430 of expenses annually (leaving $39,970 of take home pay) Americans have $21,432 of expenses annually (leaving $5,476 of take home pay) Conclusion: Democratic socialism cuts costs for average workers, raises wages due to strong union negotiation, and improves quality of life by providing a large amount of disposable income and several weeks of paid vacation annually. Capitalism dramatically raises costs for average workers due to a private company's need to maximize profit, suppresses wages by dismantling unions and preventing unionization, and reduces quality of life by providing virtually zero disposable income and zero required paid vacation.
Informative. High taxes, but not too high for what you get. Compassion: the Norwegian people care about one another. American capitalism: They use people more than care about them. The Scandinavian model has the right values IMHO!!
Agreed. I would 100% pay more taxes if it means myself and fellow Americans would get access to more services. (Universal health care/free education/more safety nets.)
In Norway I don't think it's actually possible to become homeless if you are a decent citizen, unless you want to. I can also get hurt and in critical need of care while hiking and get picked up in a helicopter, and I would probaby end up with a 50$ bill for the cake I spent on the rescue team. Might just support them with 300$ a year as a way to thank them and contribute to saving other lives as well. My family has supported them for years, ever since they saved my grandpa's life. I don't know how much my mom/grandma donates, but they are so thankful they give money even thought it's already paid for by the state. I imagine the money goes to science for developing better methods to save lives.
@@blocklattice2476 correct, homelessness is a choice here, and not a problem at all. Gov. will pay you a salary, pay your flat/house, utility bills. The salary part is for food and social activities. And they will try to help you get back to work.
I wouldn't go as far as to say we care about each other...us Norwegians are very fond of personal space and might be considered somewhat cold and distant to other people. When social distancing ended over here we went from the safe 6 feet separation back to the Norwegian 30 feet standard :)
Ask them how they pay for all the "free" shit we supposedly get in this shitty rocky hillside, il tell you how, you flogg your worker bees for all thier honey, thats how
@left May I ask what hidden costs are you referring to? If you're referring to paying about 35 dollars pr doctors visit up to about 350 dollars I think it was pr year? Then that kind of makes sense to me. It stops us from taking health care services lightly and use it frivolously, but it's still easily within reach for all of us, even if unemployed or on disability pentions. Our system is far simpler and had far less hidden costs then most systems out there. Yes, dental care is not covered for adults, that's one of the things that some of our parties wants to implement while others do not. For children dental care *is* covered. And you *can* get help with dental costs if you're struggling with paying for that for whatever reason.
@left Wait, DPRK? Are you *really* holding up North Korea as a example to follow?!? Like seriously, if you want to showcase communism then Cuba is doing a much better job then North Korea is of providing decent lives for their population, despite sanctions...
@left -- They have to, or there would be a revolution. Wikipedia explains: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world.[21] A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world".[22] North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms.[23][24] The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
@@Luredreier - And it's really not communism. There are no true communist countries. Only dictatorships that put the lipstick of communism on their terroristic regimes. - Communism has only worked on the small scale so far, as in the successful communes like The Farm in Tennessee and the Kibbutzes of Israel. -- When humanity evolves a little more, we will be able to attempt it at national levels.
Maybe, you should have a look at Finland too. They've been ranked the happiest country for a while now and have practically eradicated homelessness. Plus the fact they're just awesome.
@@bkern8536 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_antidepressant_consumption Notice that US numbers are not there, but it's stated above the numbers that the US would have the highest or second highest numbers.
@@bkern8536 why do you ask that? Depression is not that uncommon, no matter where you live and Scandinavia has relatively high use of that as a treatment, not a permanent solution, since we have a system that help people inn need to get back up on there feet again. We also have had a problem with the gen z and use of it, that the health department ( inn Norway ) are looking into and why it happen.
@@knupps That man has more energy than most 60 yr olds. He is the only politician that promotes our interests. I'd vote for him if he were 200 years old. Policies!
@@knupps Hardly! At 75, I hang out with many half my age with stamina mentally and physically equal and better. Bernie is still fit mentally and physically. Eat properly, less meat, and keep your body moving! Look at Jimmy Carter. We are as young as we feel. Americans are way to fixated on youth...and could definitely benefit by broadening our perspective on the world. 💙🦋💙
As a Norwegian I wanna thank America for alot of different things.. U guys gave us good military support, microsoft, the best movies, music, just overall great culture and entertainment. As well as other great "American made only" products, like food, tools or "pleasure items" really good quality. And also you guys can be proud that America is the most popular place to be, I often find myself thinking, if I wanna go on vacation its over there. So you guys are living in a very interesting place. But for the love of god, your system needs to change. As we say here "Running private businesses on peoples health is a very bad idea.."
Yeah. It's super impressive what they can do when they set their minds to it. I mean, they landed on the freaking moon!!! And the air lift supplying Berlin during the cold war was pretty amazing too. While I think Sweden is a better model for us when it comes to innovation there's definitely things we can learn from the US about encouraging innovation and starting new companies. We probably have too much red tape there. They might be better then us at making people feel welcome and feel like they're interested in you then we are. But their city planning, justice system, education system and political system leaves a *lot* to be desired...
You are so right. I am watching my country go backward. As a retired person on a fixed income, I am being priced out of so many things. I have savings, but can't use them to live on as healthcare is so prohibitively expensive, I must keep that for emergencies and old age care. My pension won't allow me to rent a house, I must rent a small studio. I drive only to food shop and go to appointments. This isn't a life, it's an existence...Can I immigrate to Norway?
@@Nancy-mi3xe You can, but it might not be easy. You could try to learn the language and then study here, that's usually the easiest route into the country.
@@Nancy-mi3xe -- Moving to another country is a massive undertaking that is often unsuccessful. Mostly, it's accomplished by the young and the rich. But you could try it in stages. Move to a city close to the Canadian border, then spend as much time as you can in Canada, learning the customs, opportunities and making supportive contacts. - When the time is right, you can make your move with the greatest possible success. - Canada is closer to Norway in philosophy and lifestyle than it is to the U.S.
Makes me want to cry. Knowing how much we struggle here, some never being able to finish our education & go on to a good career of our choice, because of the debt, falling behind with medical bills, workplace injuries. What is a vacation?
I couldn't agree more! The Norwegian government is humane and realistic about human needs. When we get the political willpower, we can evolve this way too. In solidarity!
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate states of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for *Oil.* An Ode; to all the foolishly obedient Trumptard Republicans and all the foolishly blind "vote blooooooo no matter hooooooooooooo" Dummycrats who have enabled the corrupt and the greedy to ruin our USA.
@left - They have to do those things or there would be a revolution. Wikipedia explains why: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world.[21] A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world".[22] North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms.[23][24] The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
@left Nothing is hidden, but I know many North Americans believe their system brings the most freedom to the people. If fewer taxes is your only definition of freedom, then you have right. Congratulations 🎉
First time I had relatives from America visiting Norway, one of their first question was about safety. I didn’t know what to say, we never talk about it here. You just safe. Police don’t carry guns, people trust each other and no matter how little money you have, your children can become who they want because education is free, health care is free.
This is amazing! We need to cover more success stories like this around the globe- be it social, political, industry, climate, medicine, education, judicial Thank you Bernie Sanders and Anniken Krutnes 🙏
Unique perspective that I’m glad Senator Bernie Sanders is bringing to the American people. Rather than Republicans comparing Sanders’ Agenda to Socialism according to Cuba or Venezuela. Why not offer a perspective on what a Social Democratic organizing of society looks like in practical terms. This interview reminds me of activist George Lackey’s book Viking Economics! Awesome!
Cuba is under US sanctions so is Venezuela, Norway isn't. And don't worry there is no one out there to sanction USA not matter what you do, so you're safe anyway.
Norway sounds like a good place to live, they have universal healthcare, don't have to pay collage tuition, the lower wage is 20$ an hour, with a whole lot of safety nets and paying 26% for taxes.
@@Ulyssestnt Yeap. Minimum disabilaty and pay 34% tax. The partys on the right side changed the rules in 2015, so people on disabilaty are taxed the same as working people. My brother earns 5 times what I get a year, and he pays 36% in taxes. Mind you, I would't live anywhere else!
@@Ulyssestnt I believe she said that 26 % was an average give or take but it sounds like a decent amount here in the US some of the wealthier people only pay 21% and the very wealthy pay 0%
I can’t believe that after 40 yes. Bernie still has to try to convince Americans on these key issues! I often wonder why he isn’t exhausted! Americans are asleep! Their lack of education with regards to cultures other than their own, is a huge handicap! America is way behind the times! God bless you Bernie! It’s a huge and thankless task that you have undertaken!
I think this is a big part of the problem. The average American have almost no knowledge of any other country than their own. It seems they are not encouraged to seek out information and be critical of sources when they do. They are brainwashed by the powerfull rich, keeping them in the dark on how other countries do , tell them our system is the best, the others are basically slaves, when they themselves are worked to the bone with no vacation and so little time, that most have enough with trying to survive from day to day, and don't have the energy to go out and find out they have been told a lie all their lives. Not so different what it was here 150-200 years ago.
@left --- No. North Korea has to do those things, because they are so poor, the people would starve and die in front of their eyes. - From Wikipedia: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
We haven't always been rich, but that's not synonymous with being directly poor. We have always been quite prominent in shipping and fishing. Cheers from a satisfied social democrat from Norway.
American here living in Norway. One thing that was not mentioned is how much more democracy we have in Norway than in the US. We have high union participation compared to the US, with over half the workforce in Unions compared to around 10 percent in the US (although our percentages are lower than other Scandinavian countries). We have a relatively diverse media where the majority in not owned by just 5 corporations or so (as in the US). Democracy is like the brain or body, if you don't use it you lose it. We protest and demonstrate all the time here in Norway and we respect the right of others to have different opinions as that is what democracy is all about. In Norway, our parties in the parliament are not as right wing as either the democratic or republican party in the US. We have members of the communist party in parliament now. A key secret to our wealth is we more or less nationalized our resources and key sectors for quite some time. We decided Norwegian resources should benefit the people of Norway. To say it another way, our success is OUR success and it was achieved by our voters prioritizing safety, security, stability and most importantly SOLIDARITY. We got where we are today by working together and embracing many socialist policies to end up where we are. There is a mistake in the video. Our main exports are still raw resources such as fish and oil and we are not nearly as innovative as our neighbors Denmark and Sweden (Sweden produces about 4 times as many important patents per capita). Those nations do not have oil however, they have similar robust social welfare policies. Sweden even outdoes us with including dental coverage as a part of healthcare and last I checked the Danes give about twice the grant to students so they leave school with even smaller loans. May such policies rub off on America so the everyday person can be just as well off as we are here.
We were rich long before we started extracting oil. This goes way back, over 1000 years. When vikings arrived in Francia and their king wanted to speak with the king on the ships, he was told he had to speak with all of them individually.
I am a social worker in Norway and I want to add a couple points that was not discussed: 1: It is against the law to allow any citizen sleep in a facility where they do not have access to privacy, cooking meals and washing clothes if they ask the government for shelter. Absolutely zero exceptions. This means for instance that for exceptionally rowdy tenants, the government may hire security to protect other residents... No exceptions, cost what may - no homeless person has to sleep outside in Norway unless they choose to. 2: our social security system is extremely complex and way too beauricratical but it is also very solid. If you're laid off, you get 62% of your previous wages (with lower taxes) for up to two years. If you're on welfare as a single adult, you get 690usd plus rent, electricity and medical expenses. 3: it's not all rosy. It is true that our extremely solid social security makes it harder to get back to work once you've dropped out. That's my political opinion anyway. But as the ambassador says, it is still worth it because the overwhelming majority are well employed and educated and participating in the work force. There's an old saying in Norway "a naked woman will learn to make clothes". This is what I experience the american attitude to be. If you're not doing that well it's your own fault and you just have to work harder. But we've moved on in Norway. Just give that bird some clothes and go along with your own prosperous business. Because the alternative is that there will be negative social inheritance. Her kids will drop out of school and become gangbangers. So we put clothes on her back and encourage her kids to go to free college.
There is always room for improvement, But I think it`s also worth mentioning how criminals are treated more humane. So if they do well, they have a bigger chance to become law abiding citizens again. The harsher treatment some countries have chosen, sometimes seem to create "Monsters" or "robots".. The war on anything seem to make things even worse or create bigger problems. like the war on Drugs , terror, covid aso. That`s my political opinion.
Small correction on point 2, it's up to 62% of your previous wage. They cover a salary up to 6G, and 1G was 106 399 in 2021. In other words up to 395804 a year.
I wonder about the parental leave also. Sometimes in Iceland the more well off father decides not to take it and rather work because he gets too little monthly payments to cover costs (higher payments were paid by their higher wages before but the parental pay leaves them poorer than before)
Greetings from Norway. I'm a Civil Engineer with an annual income of 77.500 dollars a year. My wife is a Hairdresser with an annual income of 48.000 dollars a year. Payments are not so drastically different here. And the thing is that we are not "killing our ass" of work. We have time for family, private activities, and friends. The thing that is maybe most important here is that feeling of security. If you lose your job, the country will take care of you. If you are sick, the government will take care of you. When you have kids, you get paid parental leave. There are plenty of programs that will help you when you are in a challenging situation to put you back on your feet. And there are a ridiculous amount of free paid days. For example, sick leave prescribed by a doctor is paid, BUT you have 12 extra days for minor sickness (like flu, headache, or just feeling exhausted, etc.), and it is also paid. If you have kids, you have 22 or 24 days of paid leave if your child is sick. Besides all that, you have a minimum of 5 weeks of paid vacation (25 days)... and OFCOURSE, all state holidays are paid. (there are like 7 or 8 days for that as well). But there is a difference in mentality as well. There are no shiny and expensive things on Norwegians. They do not spend money to "show up". A simple life is something that can be related to Norwegians. Best regards to all, I hope you will come to visit this magnificent country and check how everything functions by yourself.
I just came back from Norway and this is exactly what I saw - people there are humble, no showing off whatsoever. Honest, polite, humble people. I loved it there ❤️ Tromsø will always have a special place in my heart ❤️❤️
Very regulated and super low for campaign contributions… lobbying is a thing, but they can’t pay off politicians, but of course they find ways… but if they get caught they do get kicked out quite fast
Thank You, Senator Sanders, for treating the American people as educable & open-minded. Please run for President again! I will campaign for you a 3rd time with no hesitation!
Trying to make him a president or implement universal health care is probably a bad idea. There's too much political opposition to the idea. Instead look into making electoral reform away from first past the post and a presidential system and towards a system of proportional representation and parliamentarism. Starting with making changes in how states select representatives to the congress, senate and the electoral college. By opening up politics to more political parties you can get more nuanced political debate breaking up the current gridlock between the left and the right in order to get things done. A Norwegian style healthcare system still wouldn't be viable, but a German style or Singaporean style one might be plausible with centrist and center right political parties other than the Republicans to work with.
What a lovely human being the Ambassador is. She is a phenomenal representative for her country. As is Bernie. It is great to see two informed, intelligent leaders discussing actual issues. How rare that is here in America these days.
Take note that the Norwegian VAT is always included in the price, only when buying goods and services online will it be added on top of the product price in some cases. (import)
It's not your leaders, it's you. We have our leaders and system because of us, not because of the "leaders". Sorry for the harsh words, but it's true. I've considered US as a beacon for freedom for a long time, sadly it seem to fade more and more away. I hope you rise up again, but it's not going to happen by changing leaders (although it may help, the current one are.. .criminal). It's you the people that have to rise up, change come from the bottom and up, not from the top and down.
@left -- No. They have to, or the people would starve and die. - From Wikipedia: ""North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
Most of us norwegians are baffled that dental care are excluded from our medical care laws. But on a whole, it’s not a big issue compared to the system/laws of other countries.
Important to note that as far as I know, it is covered for children. It has been considered for adults as well, but I guess that politicians so far have not considered the benefits to outweigh the costs.
It's almost funny (in a sad way) how we are complaining about not having dental care 🙈 since I would guess that the average American happily would pay for dental care if it meant that they could have all the other things covered. That being said.. I would love me some dental care 😅 , but at least it's covered for my kids until they're "grown". Also.. It's it is worth mentioning.. If you really need to fix your teeth, and don't have the money (because it can get quite expensive), then there are ways you can apply for government support to get the help to pay the bill. Norway usually got your back if you are in dire need. 🙏🏼
Damn if I can pay 350 per year ill be ok with that... Still think it should be free. but 350 would put it in range of me being able to afford it. Omg do you know how much better things would be if parents could get 6 months off to raise and take care of their fucking kids. Maybe people wont grow up so freakin bad if their parents actually have some time with them to raise them. Instead of the public school system raising them while their parents work all day everyday at multiple jobs to make ends meet.
Yeah but you dont necessarily pay anything at all. It depends if you need to go to the hospital or not, its not a obligatory fee you have to pay annually. A visit to the emergency room is usually no more than 25USD, maybe 35 if you need x-ray. If it surpasses 350 in a year, its all covered by the state
Physiotherapy, training stays are also included. If you have a disability, get the equipment you need. You also get public support for a car, if you have a disability that indicates that you need it.
@left - Shame on you for ignoring my points that North Korea does those things because they HAVE to, or their people would starve and die. Most people live in desperate poverty under a cruel dictatorship.
He does, and they do. The problem is Bernie's like-minded colleagues are incredibly few, 20 at most. Most politicians who call themselves Progressive, aren't really. They just pretend to be at election time. - Our biggest obstacle is that the corrupt, corporate Democrats have hijacked the "people's" party.
Thank you so much for this conversation and helping others understand how Norway values its citizens and their livelihoods. Saying gas is "cleaner" is greenwashing.
I think it's just linguistics from use of a second language. Gas refined using a renewable electric source is going to have a lower climate impact than gas refined by burning other fossil fuels. Still not the option to aim for, but motion in the right direction as an interim step.
@@leavemealone6960 exactly ... its the same with oil and gas here we say its cleaner but what we in reality means is that it have lower Climate impact as we have a high standard of enviromental rules to follow to get to extract the oil and gas. So countries that do not care about the enviroment that much .. or have a highly regulated sector ... have a more "dirty" oil and gas. The gas and oil in itself ... is ofcourse not more clean ... just the methods to extract it....
@left There are not alot of hidden fee's .. there is the one you pay to see a doctor, its a set fee... and as the ambassador said, if you pass X-amount of fee .. yearly, then you get what we call Blue Recept that means all your medical cost are free, even the one for the doctor.... think the amount is 2000-2500 nok yearly. You can even use a private healthcare if the government run are full or have long waitingtime at... or you can if you like, have a private health insurance like you do in the states.... and have access to the private healthcare.
@left -- They have to, or the people would starve and die. - From Wikipedia: ""North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
Great interview! - To see how most major countries treat their citizens better than does the U.S., see Michael Moore's excellent movie, "Where To Invade Next."
@@droogielamer - Government is just the way we organize ourselves to get things done. - Unfortunately, our government has been hijacked by the corporations/wealthy. And they way they treat us is abysmal and now ALL of the problem.
While the sentiment of Moores videos is good and you can learn a lot from them I suggest looking up secondary sources. As Moore follows the American tradition of oversimplifying things and leaving out information.
@@Luredreier - That's an empty criticism. If you can't show examples of him not reporting correctly, you just reveal you have no arguments against his facts.
@@jontomas2271 Well .. he did not report how most of our prisoners are treated ... or their rooms or prisoncells... he took 2 of the most exposed ones, 1) that island where you can only serve like 1/3rd of your sentence .. that was not mentioned either, also Drammen prison is not how all norwegian prisons are looking so he was not truthful there I believe... now I have never been in a prison, but I know people who have also for longer durations than drunk driving and stuff like that but hard core drug-centenses.... they had to eat fjordland food in many of the prisons ... that is not 1st quality food I think.
Speaking as a Norwegian, you covered the basics. If Im to point out one thing it would be the norwegian prison system. With focus on that the criminals are supposed to return and integrate in to society. And the prisons are not run by private entities, only focusing on money. Makes a world of difference in the way you run the system. A beaten dog will bite once you release him.
When you have a government that need taxes to fund things, educating everyone is the best investment. Highly educated people have higher salaries and therefore pay more taxes. So it pays off in the long run. Businesses with educated workers have more success and also pay more taxes. So it is simply the best investment in the future for the gorvernment :)
In the case of Norway, most of the funding is derived from the oil and gas industry. If it weren’t for all the revenue from that particular sector, the work force of Norway would not have so high salaries. Hence, it is the petro-industry that generates wealth, not taxes.
@@millennialmindset3624 Not exactly. It's true that the oil industry drives up the value of our currency. But most of our income both of the private economy and of the state is *not* from the oil. Remember, only 4% of the oil fund is available to the government, less then. the expected return simply from profits made on the companies and other assets owned by our government. As for the private economy, most of us don't work in the oil sector. Nor in companies that supplies the sector. Yes, companies supplying the oil sector produce a lot of money. But even so the best estimates only project a few percentage contraction on what our economy would have been with continued extraction if we where to stop. I you compare that with the current economy we'd *still* grow even without the oil, we'd just do so slower then with the oil during the adjustment phase.
@@Luredreier The petro-industry accounts for 28% of GDP in Norway and 42% revenue to the Norwegian Government. The oil and gas production has have given NOK 18 000 billion (inflation adjusted) to Norways GDP since the early 1970s. The petro industry is measured to be the largest contributor to economic growth, Government income, investment and export in Norway. The ordinary tax paid [for petro extraction] is 22%. The petroleum tax is 56% because of the extraordinary profitable industry. About 25% in GDP and about 50% in tax income is a considerable amount to be called insignificant. Edit: Amount Edit 2: info in brackets
@@Luredreier The amount of people working in the oil industry vs. contribution to economic growth really hasn’t a direct correlation. It is the amount of petroleum that is able to be extracted from the ground to shore. Sure, of course you’ll need an x amount of people to work in the sector to get the petroleum up from the sea.
Their governments also don't allow polluted food which is the reason for many diseases in America. Their food doesn't have to be labeled "organic" as it is ALL organic.
@@hatorihanso1238 Jeg tror det er stor forskjell på hva som regnes som økologisk i Norge og hva som er «organic» i Statene. Sannsynligvis så ville alt som selges i Norge blitt merket som «organic» der nettopp fordi vi har et mye strenger lovverk rundt hva matvarer kan inneholde. Sånn sett er alt i Norge «organic».
Thank you for this incredible service that you provide. PLEASE, CAN BERNIES TEAM INCREASE THE VOLUME - I can see that people in the video are talking, and I can (barely) hear voices, but I CANNOT make out what they are saying. Also, it would be very useful if each of Bernie's videos had clear, obvious Date of Production at the top. Thank you!
I wish that the US would come to their senses and provide higher education for all who want it. And that the US would require teachers to have a Masters degree in order to teach our children. It's so incredibly shocking how ignorant so many of our k-12 teachers are. I remember that for years on the Jay Leno show he did a regular bit called Jay Walking, where he'd go out in the street and ask people all kinds of questions. Often the questions would be about basic science, geography, and US history. And there were a surprising number of teachers among the people he talked to. I remember that for years I watched Jay "Jay Walking" and being so incredibly shocked by how little people knew. It was absolutely terrifying all the many times that teachers of our children had absolutely no knowledge of basic knowledge (no higher than a fifth grade level). And that, my friends, is the explanation for why Republicans vote against their own interests. Why they fight tooth and nail to enact laws that go against everyone's interest. Why they are actually extremely focused on dumbing down education in America (fear of education=fear of the unknown). Half the country is a population of very frightened people. And they're frightened because they are so uneducated, therefore do not understand much of anything. It's heartbreaking that it seems as though the American ignorance has grown into a tsunami that is washing over the country and it has become too massive and too powerful to stop.
Norwegians understand that politicians are not there for the people, they are there for their own gains. They need to be changed constantly, like underwear, and for the same reason.
As we say in norway. Politicians works for the poeople not the people for them. If they dont behave they know we can just vote them out any they we want without having trails and stuff. They have to obey or not we get angry :D
I live in Norway and did a master degree in these topics, I can say all this is possible mainly due to the homogeneous society because it is easier in a homogeneous society to build trust. And this miracle wouldn't be possible without trust. In less homogeneous societies like US you get other advantages and benefits linked to that. It's not possible to get it all.
@@ahmadmujahid5198 not "a lot" they are mostly properly integrated and assimilated. But for the US standards and specially the new left ideology this country would be considered white supremacist. I don't agree they (we) are but that's how insane the left in US has gone.
@left Multicultural awareness is something good, homogenous countries are better because they master the art of welcoming other cultures while pressing for assimilation mainly through the society. In Norway people can survive without assimilation but they know and accept it will be harder to live here in that way. Society is aware of guetos and try to prevent that from happening.
The one-year parental leave is relatively recent: When we had our first kid in 1989, only 200 Norwegian dads took any leave at all besides the required minimum two weeks, typically directly following the birth. My wife & I split the full year but at that point we only got pay for 22 of the 52 weeks, so my half year was all unpaid but fully protected: I.e. I could not be fired or demoted so my job was guaranteed to be there when I returned. As far as I know, our former prime minister and current NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg might have been one of extremely few dads who had the same half year as myself. (His daughter ended up in the same high school as our son, that's how I heard about it.)
I am from Italy and I want to cry. People A would assume everyone else is a worse person then themselves, this brings us all down to mutual exploitation and misery. People B would assume that society matters more than themselves, as a result they support each other and uplift everyone's quality of life. People A will tell you they suffer because of others and they succeed because of themselves. People B will tell you they succeed because of others and suffering is something to take care of. No excuses for making someone's else life hard and miserable. Where there is will, there is a way.
29:59 (Regarding wealth inequality) The first half of her answer is true, Norway being regarded as fairly new in terms of wealth. But the second half is just platitudes, and sort of inexpertly delivered (in good Norwegian fashion), which made Bernie want to jump in and repeat her point with a flourish. But the thing she talked about earlier, regarding labor unions, is in my opinion a better answer to Bernie's question. And don't get me wrong, Norway has plenty of rich getting richer, but they haven't gutted our labor unions.
I think In the USA, unfortunately all or most people have a attitude of survival of the fittest and the hell with everyone else. Norway is centuries ahead of the US.
Could it be the understanding of the idea “survival of the fittest”? We would consider that to be adaptation, how can we survive and prosper best together to make a better life for us all…
@left - Shame on you for ignoring my points that North Korea does those things because they HAVE to, or their people would starve and die. Most people live in desperate poverty under a cruel dictatorship.
I'm Norwegian and I love Bernie Sanders, but to be honest, Marianne Williamson's ideals are much more in line with Norwegians; capitalism and socialism is father mocking moosedung to us; they're just tools we use and words we speak. Our original welfare system goes back to 1620 - long before the inventors of capitalism and socialism were even born. The real truth is that we pride ourselves in and nourish a passionate hatred for indignity, unfairness, unfreedom, injustice and inequality. This is what we are, so that is what we make. It is how we raise our children, what we demand from our police and what any politician must at least pretend to be. This goes way back to the viking age; but it is most strongly symbolized by a single act a millennium ago when the high-born Hallvard Vebjørnson sacrificed his life to protect the life of an innocent slave girl, which ultimately ended slavery. We celebrate that day every year on May 15th, called St. Hallvard's Day and he is the Patron Saint of Oslo. I hope to be alive to see the day celebrated globally in 2043. I guess sometimes words have to be spoken before they truly make sense; there is no justice in treating an innocent slave girl unfairly. Senator Sanders asks why CEOs are happy to be more equal in Norway. But in 1973, there was an oil crisis and people couldn't use their cars. King Olav V took the tram to go skiing because as King of Norway, he could not afford to have his name tarnished by being labeled as elitist. In short; if you're better than us, then you're not one of us, but if you are one of us, then we are all there for you. The Norwegian word for society is "samfunn", which literally means to find togetherness. The current Crown Prince of Norway went to public school, but he sent his children to private school. I believe that is the reason why the Kingdom of Norway will seize to exist when the King dies. We can't have a King that is better than his subjects. If there is one thing America can learn from Norway, I say it is our disgust for patriotism. My grandfather explained this to me as a child; those who were proud of Norway, were the ones who betrayed it to the nazis. Those who were humble and grateful, were the ones who fought for its freedom. Pride is filthy. "Navel-watching", we call it. I would give my life for all humans to have the same rights as I do.
Når jeg ser på alle andre land er jeg stolt av og være norsk og stolt av hva norge får til. Men jeg hadde fortsatt kjempet for landet mitt. Aldri gitt det vekk. Så er vel fin linje der. Man kan være stolt av historien og landet sitt uten og være svak og gi det vekk da :D Men ja man kjemper jo for medmennesker og ikke bakken man står på!
@@espeseth9: Oh, but being humble does not mean being weak or submissive. What I mean, is I'm not proud of what _we_ did to resist in the 1940s, because I'm born in 1980. It would be stolen valor. I'm humbled by what _they_ did. If an enemy soldier comes to take Norway, he should understand that I will happily pluck his eye out with a spoon and make him watch me eat it. It's the paragraph of the Law of the City of Kardemomme that we don't tell children; for as long as you possibly can, you should be patient and accepting, kind and friendly, and then you should jump straight to obscene brutality.
the term wait list needs to be measured also in regards urgency of the procedure. For example if you have a mialgia or bursitis you may end waiting months as such conditions will generally not endanger life and involve minor levels of discomfort while at the same time procedures regarding life threatening conditions will be dealt with urgency. and it is not just in terms of surgery, for example 13 years ago when i moved from the US to Europe a regular free health check verified that I had Acute leukemia, in 2 days I was already receiving (Free) treatment .
In the US, we often wait YEARS to see a doctor because we can't afford it. Then if you have an HMO and you need an MRI, that is yet another hassle because doctor needs to get permission from the insurance company, which you may not get. Then you have to wait while you appeal the insurance industry decision. God forbid you need bone marrow transplant. Chances are it is considered "experimental" so it won't be covered.
As other replies reflect, yes. Dependent on urgency there may be a waiting list. There is also limitations on treatments, so an expensive experimental treatment that is not approved for the public service is not provided. We do have very good health outcomes.
@@sharonrinkiewicz3940 correct. I work for a Medicare advantage plan and I feel so bad when I have to tell people more steps and waiting for them to have needed care, bc I have to remember that my job is for the insurance company and not necessarily for the people calling for help
Funny story, I live in a town with about 900 people and we have 27 different nationalities living here... now at my work I sometimes get kindergardenkids and they can come from many different nationalities, mostly Lithauanian, Norwegians and have seen spain and Thailand ... however what baffle me is how well they are at languages ... almost everyone (mind you these are 2-3 years old kids.. maybe 4-5 at most) speaks english ... and are atleast bi lingual.... some even have 3 languages at kindergarden, not because they nessesary learn languages at the kindergarden apart from Norwegian I suppose but still kids learn languages quick I know but still baffle me.
The main factor is, as you say, that children learn languages quick. - There is a maturity window from the ages of two to about eight where the brain is highly adaptive toward learning language. I was a social worker in a town that was experiencing a massive immigration of Guatemalan refugees. After much experience, we realized the best thing we could do for these families was to get their children into daycare as soon as possible. - A young child can go from non-English-speaking to 80 percent fluency in one year, with almost zero effort! -- Many adults never get better than 50 percent fluency, no matter how much they study. --- The children quickly become a crucial resource to the family because they will be excellent interpreters.
@@jontomas2271 I heared that humans aquire language rather than learn it, dont know if its true. But, the main point was that the thing that seperates humans from other animals is the ability aquire language . So the human mind is "programmed" for languages, and a child will eventually pick up language instinctively as they grow. But, this ability disappears as humans gets older. And thats why it is so hard to learn a new language when you are older, because you have to learn rather than aquire it. I find that really cool.
Not that hard at all to get a workers permit/temporary residence permit and live in Norway if you have higher education for a degree that is in demand. If you don't then it's very hard to find work and you need to have a job lined up with a qualifying salary which is minimum NOK 428 200 per year pre-tax or $46 000 before you get the temporary residence permit. It's also pretty hard to become an actual citizen. Norway has very strict immigration.
or you could marry a norwegian ... ofcourse, but you would not get to seek permament citizen before after I think 7 years of marriage (it could have changed I don't remember). But getting a job or have an education that is needed would help alot. I think when I was a child in the 80's we had a american swim teacher... but she was not there for a long time, don't know why really .. don't even think she was a proper teacher tough.
It's moderate to hard. Because of the EU Freedom of Movement, we get a lot of the "necessary" immigration through EU member countries like Sweden, Denmark, Germany and the UK. Being that spoiled for choice, the rules for the rest of the world are stricter for vocational immigration. The best way, if not the easiest one, is to get a job with a company that has a presence in Norway and requesting a transfer. It's hard to straight up just find a job in Norway for someone who does not speak the langugage. Not because we don't understand English, but because we do. So learning the language is pretty much a requirement in the short and mid term, unless you have unique or sought after skills which an employer will tolerate a language gap for. (R&D, specialized IT, medicine, physics, chemistry -- think energy or university level research) And even then you have to consider the next job you'll need to apply for. You could also apply to start a business in Norway, but you would be required to prove beforehand that you have a high probability of making at least about $30K on that business, the first year. That's a LOT for a market you don't know. It could be doable for, say, an IT consultant who could hook a few companies with remote freelance work from the US first, then apply to move the "business" to Norway. I know an American couple who did this, and they made it easies for themselves by moving up into the rural north. (They came for the nature and, well, their next door neighbour is about 4 miles away) Once you're in on either a rolling work visa, or a annual-renewal individual company visa, citizenship requires a residency of 8 out of the last 11 years as a main rule. Not everything the ambassador mentions is a citzenship right, a lot of it is tied to taxing your income to Norway, so if you get residency you'll be covered for *most* of it. Like access to healthcare.
its important to note that the path to socialism does not lie through liberalism, its a dead end that leads directly back to conservativism in the end.
My country, USA, is failing it's citizens compared to Norway. America is dying of the disease of GREED. Enough is never enough for the wealthy, while the rest of us exist rather than live, because we are constantly struggling to keep up financially. And with the problem of rental increases and gasoline, it's getting much worse. I've begun thinking of leaving.....I hadn't thought of Norway, but maybe I will.
Norwegian here. Every time I hear Bernie talk, I am struck by the fact that almost every single thing he mentions is common sense. But then again, we are commies ;) Btw, Finland is even better.
Not all of our schools is free. We have private high schools, Sonans, Akademietn etc. And private business school BI ,markedshøyskolen Christiania that cost money for tuition. So that all education is free is not correct. Though it is not very expensive.
And Norway has lånekassen so you can have a government controlled low interest loan. Are they still wiping half of the debt upon completion of your degree? No predatory lenders for education.
@@rune6119 Elementary and high school is also free in the US if you choose public. When he asks about the price of college (17.38), she says college is free. Tuition is free and at 18.13 "everything is free". That is not correct Handelshøyskolen Bi and høyskolen Christiania are very popular private schools.Where you have to pay tuition. She should have said all public education is free.
We don’t automatically trust the government. She said the we trust the government. She ment to say that there is more trust then in america, not that we’re putting trust in things that are not trustworthy. It’s not blind trust.
Not true, but Norway is 'solvent'. In 2020, the national debt of Norway amounted to around 156.87 billion U.S. dollars. Norway had debt from WW2 and before they struck oil in the '70s. It has to do with bonds with a long maturity date. That's all I really know about it, but you probably can find more to read up about it.
Look this up Bernie. You should know this. You thought the US needed to raise taxes to cover everyone's healthcare. You were wrong The truth is the US govt already spends more public money per capita than many countries with 100% public healthcare. Costs being the same we would actually save taxpayers money. It's an OECD study. "The U.S. Spends More Public Money on Healthcare Than Sweden or Canada" - Visual Capitalist. "The U.S. spends more public money on healthcare per capita than Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. In fact, each year the U.S. government spends $4,197 per person, while the OECD median spend is $3,677." And by the way Norway is just a little more than what we already spend public money on healthcare.
The US now spends about $12,000 per person (2020 figures), we spend more because our prices are out of control. Pharmaceuticals are more than twice as expensive, but the real cost gap is in hospital inpatient/outpatient costs and administrative cost. We are in a consolidating market fueled healthcare system where hospitals have become private monopolies which can push prices up on procedures and equipment to profit more and to pay doctors and nurses higher than anywhere else. On top of this we are forced to pay manifold administration fees since our private insurance marketplace is so sprawling and convoluted. We use less healthcare than any other comparable countries and have worse outcomes while paying more. The problem is that the US doesn’t have *federal price controls* so cost of care is based on what the market will bear. Combine this with inaccessible/costly education systems and you get a multiplier effect as quality trained healthcare workers dry up/burnout.
@@nightoftheworld to be fair, I think that $12,000 per capita you are stating is probably combining both private and public funds together. Only study I've seen so far showing what each country spends public money on healthcare so far is the OECD one. But If it's $12,000 / person that would be outrageous. The richest most powerful country in the world already paying more than enough to cover everyone's healthcare. And I believe Norway needs to tax their oil exports in order to afford alot of their social programs. We don't even do that and we are already spending the same or more than they are! But we are stuck paying high premiums, copays, deductibles, etc. for no reason. And employers are paying 80% of those premiums when we work making it so we are dependent on them just to get affordable healthcare. I don't even know how small business and self employed even pay those high costs. I think the majority of self employed are probably relying on a working spouse to use their employer's healthcare plan. They should all be realizing it doesn't have to be that way. And yes costs would need to come down. If we live in a global market now I'm not sure why they aren't the same as other countries. It doesn't make sense why we are paying so much more for healthcare. In fact I think we should be paying less!
@@jimforthew yes $12k is total spending for every US citizen, this number is from the CMS government website. The US is in sad shape, our market is an obvious perversion. Hopefully this will change soon as we begin to have more expansive public conversations about how others have better managed these issues for their families and workers. People want a caring government, not one that just works to enrich the owning class.
@@nightoftheworld and as far as doctors and education goes I agree we need to make college free or at least tuition free so we have more doctors, nurses, etc. Also it seems to me the US imports alot of doctors as well. I'd guess the majority of doctors aren't even originally from the US at this point. Failure of the education system maybe?
If this is accurate it says: "Immigrants accounted for 28 percent of the 958,000 physicians and surgeons practicing in the United States, and 38 percent of the 492,000 home health aides" - migrationpolicy org. So not quite a majority of immigrant doctors yet but getting close.
Why we dont have dental is beyond me. Granted, I am retired so I get support for it, but for working people its a moneydrain. Sidenote, for emergencies/accidents I think its covered, Im not sure how the details are, but for anything else you gonna get robbed.
We pay more than 11k a year through taxes and not everything is free, a lot of medication that is free in Sweden is not free in Norway because the government finds the medication too expensive to be used on its population. I would highly recommend insurance in Norway too in case shit like that happen so you can go abroad
1) This is a minor thing were the meds in question cost a ton AND often in context of people that are at the end of their natural lives. Should the nations use millions pr month to give a 90 year old person an extra year or two... Money isnt unlimited and a cost vs gain, while treating practically anything is the focus. 2) Allot of the "meds" some people want, because they have been suckered, are pure scams. Some American cancer treatments like the Burzynski Clinic comes to mind. No, you will not get tax payer funded money to go to scammers.
@@Lobos222 what about the woman that if had she not moved to Sweden right before she got her diagnose she would have died because the Norwegians said her treatment was too expensive, even the Swedish health minister called for a debate in Norway telling that Swedes did not put a price tag on humans like Norway. It’s a shame and disgrace
@@alexbleks Anecdotal examples will happen. The process of allowing new meds is not done over night. However the impact in such regards it less than 0,5% or something among people that need healthcare. ANY US comparison in such regards would still lead to more people needing and not getting proper health care. That aspect is not a negative towards a socialized healthcare system because the alternative is that you would still be at the SUBJECTIVE ruling of X insurance company. You do not escape the same risk by having a health insurance unless you have a health insurance for a key thing, but what if you get some other issue and now you are suddenly back to square one. There are similar examples of kids being denied on going treatment by their insurance company, example that i coincidentally got in my feed a while back: "A Kid with Declining Health Because Insurance Denied His Meds". Point is, this notion private is better or reduces remove such anecdotal risk is not accurate. Sure, you can get SOME treatments a bit faster or SOME meds access, very few btw, the general public doesnt get, but private insurance doesnt remove all risk of becoming an "anecdotal example". EDIT: I am not saying people shouldnt have supplementing health insurance as well, but it is not a "cover all" thing or "better".
Why do conservative people think the size and population of a country determines wether or not we can care for our people. We are a bigger country, so that means: more money, more resources, more capability, we have more people, but that just means we have more resources to care for those people. I don’t know how they don’t just scale it up in their mind. 🤷🏻♂️
Because Norway has low rates of immigration, so less people coming in their country every year that need medicaid equivalent type social programs, while the US takes in half of the worlds immigrants, not even counting illegal immigrants
@@brennanmason1973 - That explains nothing. You have an incredibly skewed view of the economic effect of immigrants. They ADD to the economy because they work for near minimum wage at jobs Americans don't want to do, like picking crops in the fields and working in chicken processing plants and slaughter houses.
@@jontomas2271 the immigrants that Norway takes are the only the 1% in terms of skills, meaning they will most often be business owners or taking high end jobs and pay a LOT more in taxes and consume almost nothing in benefits
@@brennanmason1973 So explain why USA pays more pr citizen on healthcare than Norway then. If Norway system is supposed to be so bad for USA? You mean, cutting costs via inefficiencies or 3rd parties ala the insurance bis, is a bad thing? That spending 1 billion is better in a US setting than the US changing their system and paying 0,7 billion? Do you have other comments were you try to insinuate "international bankers" are the main issues in the world or do you go full mask off and talk about Jews?
@@Lobos222 when people say that the US spends more per citizen and say the Universal Healthcare is affordable it’s affordable to the person who has the healthcare but its not affordable to the country. So much so that the state of California tried to pass universal healthcare twice and refuses to do so because they would have both immediately doubled the debt. Making insurance optional and having a patient to provider system is a component of it, also a complete deregulation of the healthcare industry, including things that could be done by Nurse Prac requiring a doctors signature, price transparency, The ability to buy insurance off state lines, reforming the FDA thats constantly inflating prescriptions, no more patents for prescriptions to allow competition, and the most stupid of them all Remove the regulation that literally requires you to get permission from your competition to open a hospital
I REALLY want Bernie to run again and would campaign, post and contribute as I have the previous 2 times (which has been and is still, at 83, very modestly). Still, I somehow truly just can't believe there are enough voters who would get around to changing their voter registration to give him enough independent votes to win. Do you have any reason to think my fear/reservation is unfounded? NotMe.Us.
Is anyone else jealous? I am. Norway is a very enlightened country. Those tax rates seem very high until you actually do the math. For what you get in return it is a GREAT deal. And no one gets left out. Wow.
Oil companies are taxed at 75%, still the most profitable. Let that sink in when American Enron or similar cry about 1% increase in taxes or them having to pay property tax on their mega plots of land they use in a state. Another aspect is that the government in a majority stakes holder in the largest oil company in Norway. So the public even gets 51% of the dividend pay out as well. Oh and they can mandate that Norwegians are used as workforce at sea. The workers get payed a wage, therefor pay income tax, go home, spend their money on food, drink and entertainment, which gives sales tax revenue (15% food, 25% most other). Which gives increases tax revenue for the government, but it also creates more demand via more economic activity, which creates a need for supply, which creates jobs, which creates bis needing to pay corporate taxes on their profits, workers need to pay income tax... You know what. Social Democracies kinda sounds like well regulated capitalism!
I'm 48, Swedish, living abroad. It's funny. For most of my life, THE shining example that American liberals would talk about is Sweden. The press would go on about "the SWEDISH model." Yes everybody knows that Denmark and Norway are similar. But Sweden was the go-to reference for how a wonderful society should be on the American left I noticed over the last 10 years, libs quitely stopped saying Sweden and now mostly refer to Denmark or Norway or Finland. Because the problems that the left have caused in Sweden are now too big to hide or sweep under the rug, even for an American audience. And by "the left" I do NOT mostly mean the old school Swedish left: The ones mainly focused on unions or better working conditions etc. I respect them very much. I'm talking about the newer, alien, "woke" left that leaves nothing but stupidity, hate, division, and this insane hatred for Western civilization and everything in it. They are destroying this ancient country at a breathtaking pace.
I doubt that's why most don't consider Sweden much. Sweden has the reputation of being the most oppressive government in Europe. I read of actual incidents where young people were arrested simply for laughing too much, because the "authorities" thought that meant they were smoking cannabis. - No thanks. - Freedom is the number one priority for most Americans.
You should! Although (personally), I'd suggest Denmark, Sweden, Iceland or Finland, because it is easier for you to travel, as Norway is not in the EU 😉
I’m Norwegian, and workers at McDonald’s do NOT make $20. I quit my retail job last year, and as a 22 year old with years of experience, I earned $17. A 17 year old who works in retail earns $13. Healthcare in Norway is affordable, but the wait times are long. I had to wait six months to see a dermatologist. We choose our own doctor among those avaliable in the public system. However, there is a shortage of primary care physicians, so the options may be limited depending on where you live. If you become seriously ill, the government will not cover treatments they deem as too expensive. As a result, crowdfunding for medical treatment is also a thing here. I’m happy to answer questions you have about Norway in the comments.
I also live in Norway and I am like, you are wrong... McD dont earn 20$. Adjusted for currency fluctuation, they do... Just because 1$ is currently 9NOK doesnt mean it has always been that (168NOK, 5 years ago, at 7NOK pr 1US$ = 24$ pr hour). It is actually good for exports that the Krona is less valued. 17 year olds are not adults and the currency aspect impacts here as well. Healthcare in Norway is affordable, but the wait times are long. Is also wrong, you get cancer that needs surgery, you get operated within a week. You need a doctor its a phone call away. However if you need a dermatologist. You might to wait a bit more because you ALSO have private options for such. Ergo, the government saves money on having companies or people more well off "skipping" the line and choosing private within key areas the government allows. In short, if it was only private the wait times would be longer or the services costing allot more to lock people out and thereby get the lines down. Hardly something I would call "better". Lastly, this notion expensive treatments are not paid for is also BS. Yes, funds is limited and a nation has to be responsible with their spending. Some new treatment that hasnt proved itself yet or down right pseudo science some people THINK or FEEL work are not support. That would be irresponsible. Do you really want tax payer money to do to some "Voodoo doctor" that says hes treatment works. Yes, there are examples of people getting denied treatment as well from real issues. If you are 99 years old and you get a super rare issue that would cost millions to treat. You are not getting treatment via the public, but again. That is the real nature of being economical responsible. If the 99 year old has the funds to pay for such himself then he can get treatment, but the contrast is that the 99 years old would pay for all treatment in far right wing society regardless.
@@Lobos222 Nothing I said here was wrong. You don’t ‘adjust for currency fluctuations’ when comparing current salaries between countries. You use the current exchange rate. That goes without saying. The salary at McDonald’s is $12-$20 depending on age and experience, by today’s exchange rate. $20 is the absolute highest, and you need 10 years of experience in the industry to earn that amount. Just because there is a shorter wait time for certain treaments, it doesn’t mean that wait times are short overall. The wait times for hospital treatment is on average 63 days. Three out of four therapists have a wait time of at least six months in the public system. Because of the wait times, an increasing number of people buy private health insurance. At no point did I say that the government won’t cover any expensive treatments. They won’t cover treaments that they think is too expensive, like immunotherapy and stem cell therapy. The government negotiates prices with pharmaceutical companies, and if the price is too high, the medicine won’t be covered. Even though Norway is a good country, no country is perfect. American viewers should know both the positives and the negatives, so that they can have a more nuanced picture of what it’s like here. Also, I would encourage you to be a bit more respectful when discussing with other people, instead of calling it ‘bs’.
Just a question. Did you wait six months to see a dermatologist during the pandemic? A lot of specialist consultations were put on hold for a while due to the strain that was put on the healthcare system. Obviously the waitlist is longer now due to the backlog unless it’s critical or life saving treatment.
Still no viking and bent his back for the pressure last time. He was the righteous candidate, still Clinton swallowed him and he accepted it. No strong leader. All talk, no walk.
Right. But don't forget his massive support. If the corrupt DNC had not colluded with the corporate media to cheat Sanders in the primaries, he would now be our president.
Norwegian here. Thank you so much for the opportunity and your interest in us. Other politicians in the US should check this video out to see what respectful, intellectual conversations can do. We all learn from them and bond over them. Thank you for leading by example Bernie. You have been a light of hope in the dark four/five years of the Trump era.
I wish ordinary Americans would watch it. Too many believe that every other country lives under totalitarian poverty.
A vision for a better future.
@@cindycooksfordogs3173 Sadly, that´s often the case. I struggled with that for a long time, but i´m really feeling this is changing with younger americans today. Som i´m hopeful that it will change with time. Sadly, it´ll take time.
hey. how your goverment use your swf?
@@stox2418 For some time I've felt the smaller countries are easier to manage. Norway's a perfect model.
Interesting takeaway:
Median income in Norway is $60,000 taxed at 26% = $44,400 take home pay
Median income in US is $31,000 taxed at 13.2% = $26,908 take home pay
That's a 39% or $17,492 disparity.
Now consider:
Americans pay an average of $456/month for health insurance
Norwegians pay a maximum of $29.10/month
Americans pay an average of $100/month for prescription meds
Norwegians pay $0, it is built in to the $29.10 maximum cost of healthcare
Americans pay an average of $1,230/month for one infant's childcare
Norwegians pay a maximum of $340/month
Just considering those costs:
Norwegians have $4,430 of expenses annually (leaving $39,970 of take home pay)
Americans have $21,432 of expenses annually (leaving $5,476 of take home pay)
Conclusion:
Democratic socialism cuts costs for average workers, raises wages due to strong union negotiation, and improves quality of life by providing a large amount of disposable income and several weeks of paid vacation annually.
Capitalism dramatically raises costs for average workers due to a private company's need to maximize profit, suppresses wages by dismantling unions and preventing unionization, and reduces quality of life by providing virtually zero disposable income and zero required paid vacation.
But Norway is more economically free than America so I wouldn’t consider it to be a “socialist” country
@@brennanmason1973 There is large state ownership in Norway though so it's up in the air. Ultimately it isn't the label that matters but the policies.
Lol everything you said is false. The median wage in the US is 56k
@@ef888 Norway’s government has stock in many oil companies but thats pretty much it
@@brennanmason1973 A lot more than that. Telecommunications/mobile services, transport, pharmaceuticals, energy, many things.
Informative. High taxes, but not too high for what you get. Compassion: the Norwegian people care about one another. American capitalism: They use people more than care about them. The Scandinavian model has the right values IMHO!!
HOW TRUE!
Agreed. I would 100% pay more taxes if it means myself and fellow Americans would get access to more services. (Universal health care/free education/more safety nets.)
In Norway I don't think it's actually possible to become homeless if you are a decent citizen, unless you want to. I can also get hurt and in critical need of care while hiking and get picked up in a helicopter, and I would probaby end up with a 50$ bill for the cake I spent on the rescue team. Might just support them with 300$ a year as a way to thank them and contribute to saving other lives as well. My family has supported them for years, ever since they saved my grandpa's life. I don't know how much my mom/grandma donates, but they are so thankful they give money even thought it's already paid for by the state. I imagine the money goes to science for developing better methods to save lives.
@@blocklattice2476 correct, homelessness is a choice here, and not a problem at all. Gov. will pay you a salary, pay your flat/house, utility bills. The salary part is for food and social activities. And they will try to help you get back to work.
I wouldn't go as far as to say we care about each other...us Norwegians are very fond of personal space and might be considered somewhat cold and distant to other people. When social distancing ended over here we went from the safe 6 feet separation back to the Norwegian 30 feet standard :)
Thank you Ambassador Anniken Krutness for you information of services in your country. Thank you Bernie for proof of what USA can learn.🔥💚💙👍🏼👍👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿
Ask them how they pay for all the "free" shit we supposedly get in this shitty rocky hillside, il tell you how, you flogg your worker bees for all thier honey, thats how
@left May I ask what hidden costs are you referring to?
If you're referring to paying about 35 dollars pr doctors visit up to about 350 dollars I think it was pr year?
Then that kind of makes sense to me.
It stops us from taking health care services lightly and use it frivolously, but it's still easily within reach for all of us, even if unemployed or on disability pentions.
Our system is far simpler and had far less hidden costs then most systems out there.
Yes, dental care is not covered for adults, that's one of the things that some of our parties wants to implement while others do not.
For children dental care *is* covered.
And you *can* get help with dental costs if you're struggling with paying for that for whatever reason.
@left Wait, DPRK?
Are you *really* holding up North Korea as a example to follow?!?
Like seriously, if you want to showcase communism then Cuba is doing a much better job then North Korea is of providing decent lives for their population, despite sanctions...
@left -- They have to, or there would be a revolution. Wikipedia explains: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world.[21] A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world".[22] North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms.[23][24] The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
@@Luredreier - And it's really not communism. There are no true communist countries. Only dictatorships that put the lipstick of communism on their terroristic regimes. - Communism has only worked on the small scale so far, as in the successful communes like The Farm in Tennessee and the Kibbutzes of Israel. -- When humanity evolves a little more, we will be able to attempt it at national levels.
My Love for Bernie is Endless. What a Great Leader! Thank You So Much Bernie For All You Do!! ✌️🇺🇸👍💕🗽✊
Still a die hard Bernie fangal
Learning about other successful countries is vital
Maybe, you should have a look at Finland too. They've been ranked the happiest country for a while now and have practically eradicated homelessness. Plus the fact they're just awesome.
Whats the depression rate? consumption of anti-depressant?
@@bkern8536
China
India
The U.S.
Brazil
Bangladesh
Russia
Indonesia
Nigeria
Pakistan
Iran
Top 10 most depressed countries according to the WHO.
@@bkern8536 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_antidepressant_consumption
Notice that US numbers are not there, but it's stated above the numbers that the US would have the highest or second highest numbers.
@@bkern8536 why do you ask that? Depression is not that uncommon, no matter where you live and Scandinavia has relatively high use of that as a treatment, not a permanent solution, since we have a system that help people inn need to get back up on there feet again. We also have had a problem with the gen z and use of it, that the health department ( inn Norway ) are looking into and why it happen.
yes, I'm not sure how much value you can gather from a country ranked 'Happiest in the world' and also has the highest suicide rate.
2024? Run Bernie RUN!! As an independent, the DNC is terrified of you, because you represent us!
I am a Bernie fan to, but he is too old now.
@@knupps That man has more energy than most 60 yr olds. He is the only politician that promotes our interests. I'd vote for him if he were 200 years old. Policies!
@@knupps Hardly! At 75, I hang out with many half my age with stamina mentally and physically equal and better. Bernie is still fit mentally and physically. Eat properly, less meat, and keep your body moving! Look at Jimmy Carter. We are as young as we feel. Americans are way to fixated on youth...and could definitely benefit by broadening our perspective on the world. 💙🦋💙
That's stupid, it's a two party system.... Just run as a Democrat.
@@jarjar7609 The problem is we are two party system. It's a problem.
As a Norwegian I wanna thank America for alot of different things.. U guys gave us good military support, microsoft, the best movies, music, just overall great culture and entertainment.
As well as other great "American made only" products, like food, tools or "pleasure items" really good quality. And also you guys can be proud that America is the most popular place to be, I often find myself thinking, if I wanna go on vacation its over there. So you guys are living in a very interesting place.
But for the love of god, your system needs to change. As we say here "Running private businesses on peoples health is a very bad idea.."
Yeah.
It's super impressive what they can do when they set their minds to it.
I mean, they landed on the freaking moon!!!
And the air lift supplying Berlin during the cold war was pretty amazing too.
While I think Sweden is a better model for us when it comes to innovation there's definitely things we can learn from the US about encouraging innovation and starting new companies.
We probably have too much red tape there.
They might be better then us at making people feel welcome and feel like they're interested in you then we are.
But their city planning, justice system, education system and political system leaves a *lot* to be desired...
Yeah. It's great for the rich. The rest just get to watch fancy shows on television, if they aren't too tired from working two or three jobs.
You are so right. I am watching my country go backward. As a retired person on a fixed income, I am being priced out of so many things. I have savings, but can't use them to live on as healthcare is so prohibitively expensive, I must keep that for emergencies and old age care. My pension won't allow me to rent a house, I must rent a small studio. I drive only to food shop and go to appointments. This isn't a life, it's an existence...Can I immigrate to Norway?
@@Nancy-mi3xe You can, but it might not be easy.
You could try to learn the language and then study here, that's usually the easiest route into the country.
@@Nancy-mi3xe -- Moving to another country is a massive undertaking that is often unsuccessful. Mostly, it's accomplished by the young and the rich. But you could try it in stages. Move to a city close to the Canadian border, then spend as much time as you can in Canada, learning the customs, opportunities and making supportive contacts. - When the time is right, you can make your move with the greatest possible success. - Canada is closer to Norway in philosophy and lifestyle than it is to the U.S.
Leading the charge.. thanks Bernie 🤜💥🤛
Makes me want to cry. Knowing how much we struggle here, some never being able to finish our education & go on to a good career of our choice, because of the debt, falling behind with medical bills, workplace injuries. What is a vacation?
I couldn't agree more!
The Norwegian government is humane and realistic about human needs. When we get the political willpower, we can evolve this way too. In solidarity!
@@betsysoderquist9954 USA would collapse after only around 10 years if they copied Norway. 5 millions vs 400 millions?
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Corporate states of America and to the Republicans for which it stands, one nation under debt, easily divisible, with liberty and justice for *Oil.*
An Ode; to all the foolishly obedient Trumptard Republicans and all the foolishly blind "vote blooooooo no matter hooooooooooooo" Dummycrats who have enabled the corrupt and the greedy to ruin our USA.
This is as fake as the moon is flat. (from a Norwegian)
I have all of these things and I am an American, Pretty sure you need to just reevaluate some of your life decisions.
Thank you, Bernie and Ambassador Krutnes. What an eye-opener! So much to learn from Norway!
@left I can't believe that you're advocating emulation of North Korea...
@left - They have to do those things or there would be a revolution. Wikipedia explains why: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world.[21] A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world".[22] North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms.[23][24] The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
A great way to get started learning is to watch Michael Moore's excellent movie, "Where To Invade Next."
@left Nothing is hidden, but I know many North Americans believe their system brings the most freedom to the people. If fewer taxes is your only definition of freedom, then you have right. Congratulations 🎉
@@jontomas2271 this interview had better facts than that movie though.
I always wanted to live in Norway. I love the people there.
I hear you!👍
I dislike our people
Come and visit us! 😊
As a norwegian; the politics are nice. the people are cold. as ice. no country is perfect, i guess
@@hjelp3480 Yes, as we say now that the 1-meter covid-rules are lifted, we can go back to our normal 3-meter distance… 😊
I love you Bernie.
Hopefully Bernie runs in 2024 as an independent and creates an influx of third party rising up.
Excellent example of eye-opening facts, truth and and social possibilities!
Thanks Bernie, Ambassador Krutnes.
First time I had relatives from America visiting Norway, one of their first question was about safety. I didn’t know what to say, we never talk about it here. You just safe. Police don’t carry guns, people trust each other and no matter how little money you have, your children can become who they want because education is free, health care is free.
This is amazing! We need to cover more success stories like this around the globe- be it social, political, industry, climate, medicine, education, judicial
Thank you Bernie Sanders and Anniken Krutnes 🙏
You can shine a turd all you want for the media, but at the end of the day its still a shit turd
Do Venezuela next, lets se democratic socialism in an american context :)
Thank you both for your time.
Unique perspective that I’m glad Senator Bernie Sanders is bringing to the American people. Rather than Republicans comparing Sanders’ Agenda to Socialism according to Cuba or Venezuela. Why not offer a perspective on what a Social Democratic organizing of society looks like in practical terms. This interview reminds me of activist George Lackey’s book Viking Economics! Awesome!
Cuba is under US sanctions so is Venezuela, Norway isn't. And don't worry there is no one out there to sanction USA not matter what you do, so you're safe anyway.
He's an admitted socialist, so that's his goal.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 Ah yes, the totalitarian nightmare of...Scandinavia. *bursts out laughing*
@@beyondaboundary6034 Nothing to do with my comment. He admitted to being a socialist years ago.
Norway sounds like a good place to live, they have universal healthcare, don't have to pay collage tuition, the lower wage is 20$ an hour, with a whole lot of safety nets and paying 26% for taxes.
That 20$ doesn't make much difference when everything is 3-4 times more expensive
Yeah those 20$ ain’t going to do much for you around these parts. 🇳🇴
I don't know anyone paying 26% in Norway..I do know a lot pays 33 to 36%
@@Ulyssestnt Yeap. Minimum disabilaty and pay 34% tax. The partys on the right side changed the rules in 2015, so people on disabilaty are taxed the same as working people. My brother earns 5 times what I get a year, and he pays 36% in taxes. Mind you, I would't live anywhere else!
@@Ulyssestnt I believe she said that 26 % was an average give or take but it sounds like a decent amount here in the US some of the wealthier people only pay 21% and the very wealthy pay 0%
I can’t believe that after 40 yes. Bernie still has to try to convince Americans on these key issues! I often wonder why he isn’t exhausted! Americans are asleep! Their lack of education with regards to cultures other than their own, is a huge handicap! America is way behind the times! God bless you Bernie! It’s a huge and thankless task that you have undertaken!
I think this is a big part of the problem. The average American have almost no knowledge of any other country than their own. It seems they are not encouraged to seek out information and be critical of sources when they do. They are brainwashed by the powerfull rich, keeping them in the dark on how other countries do , tell them our system is the best, the others are basically slaves, when they themselves are worked to the bone with no vacation and so little time, that most have enough with trying to survive from day to day, and don't have the energy to go out and find out they have been told a lie all their lives. Not so different what it was here 150-200 years ago.
Thanks for the excellent interview. We can learn much from Norway!
Nothing to learn. This ambassador is just kissing up to Bernie.
@left --- No. North Korea has to do those things, because they are so poor, the people would starve and die in front of their eyes. - From Wikipedia: "North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
We haven't always been rich, but that's not synonymous with being directly poor. We have always been quite prominent in shipping and fishing. Cheers from a satisfied social democrat from Norway.
American here living in Norway. One thing that was not mentioned is how much more democracy we have in Norway than in the US. We have high union participation compared to the US, with over half the workforce in Unions compared to around 10 percent in the US (although our percentages are lower than other Scandinavian countries).
We have a relatively diverse media where the majority in not owned by just 5 corporations or so (as in the US). Democracy is like the brain or body, if you don't use it you lose it. We protest and demonstrate all the time here in Norway and we respect the right of others to have different opinions as that is what democracy is all about.
In Norway, our parties in the parliament are not as right wing as either the democratic or republican party in the US. We have members of the communist party in parliament now. A key secret to our wealth is we more or less nationalized our resources and key sectors for quite some time. We decided Norwegian resources should benefit the people of Norway. To say it another way, our success is OUR success and it was achieved by our voters prioritizing safety, security, stability and most importantly SOLIDARITY. We got where we are today by working together and embracing many socialist policies to end up where we are.
There is a mistake in the video. Our main exports are still raw resources such as fish and oil and we are not nearly as innovative as our neighbors Denmark and Sweden (Sweden produces about 4 times as many important patents per capita). Those nations do not have oil however, they have similar robust social welfare policies. Sweden even outdoes us with including dental coverage as a part of healthcare and last I checked the Danes give about twice the grant to students so they leave school with even smaller loans. May such policies rub off on America so the everyday person can be just as well off as we are here.
We were rich long before we started extracting oil. This goes way back, over 1000 years. When vikings arrived in Francia and their king wanted to speak with the king on the ships, he was told he had to speak with all of them individually.
The danes have oil..
I am a social worker in Norway and I want to add a couple points that was not discussed:
1: It is against the law to allow any citizen sleep in a facility where they do not have access to privacy, cooking meals and washing clothes if they ask the government for shelter. Absolutely zero exceptions. This means for instance that for exceptionally rowdy tenants, the government may hire security to protect other residents... No exceptions, cost what may - no homeless person has to sleep outside in Norway unless they choose to.
2: our social security system is extremely complex and way too beauricratical but it is also very solid. If you're laid off, you get 62% of your previous wages (with lower taxes) for up to two years. If you're on welfare as a single adult, you get 690usd plus rent, electricity and medical expenses.
3: it's not all rosy. It is true that our extremely solid social security makes it harder to get back to work once you've dropped out. That's my political opinion anyway. But as the ambassador says, it is still worth it because the overwhelming majority are well employed and educated and participating in the work force. There's an old saying in Norway "a naked woman will learn to make clothes". This is what I experience the american attitude to be. If you're not doing that well it's your own fault and you just have to work harder. But we've moved on in Norway. Just give that bird some clothes and go along with your own prosperous business.
Because the alternative is that there will be negative social inheritance. Her kids will drop out of school and become gangbangers. So we put clothes on her back and encourage her kids to go to free college.
There is always room for improvement, But I think it`s also worth mentioning how criminals are treated more humane. So if they do well, they have a bigger chance to become law abiding citizens again. The harsher treatment some countries have chosen, sometimes seem to create "Monsters" or "robots".. The war on anything seem to make things even worse or create bigger problems. like the war on Drugs , terror, covid aso. That`s my political opinion.
Small correction on point 2, it's up to 62% of your previous wage. They cover a salary up to 6G, and 1G was 106 399 in 2021. In other words up to 395804 a year.
I wonder about the parental leave also. Sometimes in Iceland the more well off father decides not to take it and rather work because he gets too little monthly payments to cover costs (higher payments were paid by their higher wages before but the parental pay leaves them poorer than before)
@@MrKorton in Norway, one third must be used by both parents and the remaining third can be distributed free of choice.
You have it so much better than we do here in the USA. I guess some people will never be happy.
BERNIE IS SLAYING!!!
Greetings from Norway.
I'm a Civil Engineer with an annual income of 77.500 dollars a year.
My wife is a Hairdresser with an annual income of 48.000 dollars a year.
Payments are not so drastically different here.
And the thing is that we are not "killing our ass" of work.
We have time for family, private activities, and friends.
The thing that is maybe most important here is that feeling of security. If you lose your job, the country will take care of you. If you are sick, the government will take care of you. When you have kids, you get paid parental leave.
There are plenty of programs that will help you when you are in a challenging situation to put you back on your feet.
And there are a ridiculous amount of free paid days. For example, sick leave prescribed by a doctor is paid, BUT you have 12 extra days for minor sickness (like flu, headache, or just feeling exhausted, etc.), and it is also paid.
If you have kids, you have 22 or 24 days of paid leave if your child is sick.
Besides all that, you have a minimum of 5 weeks of paid vacation (25 days)... and OFCOURSE, all state holidays are paid. (there are like 7 or 8 days for that as well).
But there is a difference in mentality as well. There are no shiny and expensive things on Norwegians. They do not spend money to "show up". A simple life is something that can be related to Norwegians.
Best regards to all,
I hope you will come to visit this magnificent country and check how everything functions by yourself.
I just came back from Norway and this is exactly what I saw - people there are humble, no showing off whatsoever. Honest, polite, humble people. I loved it there ❤️
Tromsø will always have a special place in my heart ❤️❤️
That’s how we roll 😄 and Tromsø is a great town indeed. If you come again come down south to STAVANGER and the big fjords :)
Whoah man I love it, no mention the stunning nature that surrounds your country.
Thanks for this interview. Very informative.
Amazing, the differences between the countries are immense. Nice to see what happens when a country invest in there citizens.
Thank you Bernie! I wish you discussed about campaign contribution and lobbyism
Very regulated and super low for campaign contributions… lobbying is a thing, but they can’t pay off politicians, but of course they find ways… but if they get caught they do get kicked out quite fast
Run bernie run, thank you norway
Thank You, Senator Sanders, for treating the American people as educable & open-minded. Please run for President again!
I will campaign for you a 3rd time with no hesitation!
Trying to make him a president or implement universal health care is probably a bad idea.
There's too much political opposition to the idea.
Instead look into making electoral reform away from first past the post and a presidential system and towards a system of proportional representation and parliamentarism.
Starting with making changes in how states select representatives to the congress, senate and the electoral college.
By opening up politics to more political parties you can get more nuanced political debate breaking up the current gridlock between the left and the right in order to get things done.
A Norwegian style healthcare system still wouldn't be viable, but a German style or Singaporean style one might be plausible with centrist and center right political parties other than the Republicans to work with.
What a lovely human being the Ambassador is. She is a phenomenal representative for her country. As is Bernie. It is great to see two informed, intelligent leaders discussing actual issues. How rare that is here in America these days.
Take note that the Norwegian VAT is always included in the price, only when buying goods and services online will it be added on top of the product price in some cases. (import)
I wish Bernie would run again in 2024! He genuinely cares .
Bernie much love from Sweden! ❤️🇸🇪
This is fantastic !!
Norway is such a beautiful country and we could learn slot from them if the right leaders were listening. Please run again Bernie!
It's not your leaders, it's you. We have our leaders and system because of us, not because of the "leaders". Sorry for the harsh words, but it's true. I've considered US as a beacon for freedom for a long time, sadly it seem to fade more and more away. I hope you rise up again, but it's not going to happen by changing leaders (although it may help, the current one are.. .criminal). It's you the people that have to rise up, change come from the bottom and up, not from the top and down.
@left -- No. They have to, or the people would starve and die. - From Wikipedia: ""North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
Most of us norwegians are baffled that dental care are excluded from our medical care laws. But on a whole, it’s not a big issue compared to the system/laws of other countries.
Seems pretty normal that dental care is excluded from your medical care since it’s not life threatening.
Important to note that as far as I know, it is covered for children. It has been considered for adults as well, but I guess that politicians so far have not considered the benefits to outweigh the costs.
@@Andjac2010 That’s correct. It’s covered from 1-18 yo. Oversight on my part not to mention it.
But still annoying that is not covered!
It's almost funny (in a sad way) how we are complaining about not having dental care 🙈 since I would guess that the average American happily would pay for dental care if it meant that they could have all the other things covered. That being said.. I would love me some dental care 😅 , but at least it's covered for my kids until they're "grown".
Also.. It's it is worth mentioning.. If you really need to fix your teeth, and don't have the money (because it can get quite expensive), then there are ways you can apply for government support to get the help to pay the bill.
Norway usually got your back if you are in dire need. 🙏🏼
Great program!
Good discussion.
Damn if I can pay 350 per year ill be ok with that... Still think it should be free. but 350 would put it in range of me being able to afford it. Omg do you know how much better things would be if parents could get 6 months off to raise and take care of their fucking kids. Maybe people wont grow up so freakin bad if their parents actually have some time with them to raise them. Instead of the public school system raising them while their parents work all day everyday at multiple jobs to make ends meet.
Exactly!
We need a government that reflects our values !!
The 350 usd/year cap is maximum you spend on healthcare. If you do not need healthcare and/or medicine you pay nothing. Except taxes.
Hi Norway here, if you can’t pay 350, you will get it for free, then you get social help,
Yeah but you dont necessarily pay anything at all. It depends if you need to go to the hospital or not, its not a obligatory fee you have to pay annually. A visit to the emergency room is usually no more than 25USD, maybe 35 if you need x-ray. If it surpasses 350 in a year, its all covered by the state
Physiotherapy, training stays are also included. If you have a disability, get the equipment you need. You also get public support for a car, if you have a disability that indicates that you need it.
"NORWAY 🇳🇴 FLEXES IN FRONT OF AMERICA (LIVE AT 8PM ET)"
they look good.
@left - Shame on you for ignoring my points that North Korea does those things because they HAVE to, or their people would starve and die. Most people live in desperate poverty under a cruel dictatorship.
Dette var kult å følge med på 🇧🇻🇨🇦🏴🇺🇸
Bernie, please get your colleagues to start speaking about such things as well. It will create a wider circle of educating the people.
He does, and they do. The problem is Bernie's like-minded colleagues are incredibly few, 20 at most. Most politicians who call themselves Progressive, aren't really. They just pretend to be at election time. - Our biggest obstacle is that the corrupt, corporate Democrats have hijacked the "people's" party.
Thank you so much for this conversation and helping others understand how Norway values its citizens and their livelihoods. Saying gas is "cleaner" is greenwashing.
I think it's just linguistics from use of a second language. Gas refined using a renewable electric source is going to have a lower climate impact than gas refined by burning other fossil fuels.
Still not the option to aim for, but motion in the right direction as an interim step.
@@leavemealone6960 exactly ... its the same with oil and gas here we say its cleaner but what we in reality means is that it have lower Climate impact as we have a high standard of enviromental rules to follow to get to extract the oil and gas. So countries that do not care about the enviroment that much .. or have a highly regulated sector ... have a more "dirty" oil and gas.
The gas and oil in itself ... is ofcourse not more clean ... just the methods to extract it....
@left There are not alot of hidden fee's .. there is the one you pay to see a doctor, its a set fee... and as the ambassador said, if you pass X-amount of fee .. yearly, then you get what we call Blue Recept that means all your medical cost are free, even the one for the doctor.... think the amount is 2000-2500 nok yearly. You can even use a private healthcare if the government run are full or have long waitingtime at... or you can if you like, have a private health insurance like you do in the states.... and have access to the private healthcare.
@left -- They have to, or the people would starve and die. - From Wikipedia: ""North Korea is widely accused of having perhaps the worst human rights record in the world. A 2014 UN inquiry into human rights in North Korea concluded that, "The gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world". North Koreans have been referred to as "some of the world's most brutalized people" by Human Rights Watch, because of the severe restrictions placed on their political and economic freedoms. The North Korean population is strictly managed by the state and all aspects of daily life are subordinated to party and state planning. Employment is managed by the party on the basis of political reliability, and travel is tightly controlled by the Ministry of People's Security."
Would love to live there
Then just come over - we are very welcoming ☺️
I would love to meet American people in Norway
Great interview! - To see how most major countries treat their citizens better than does the U.S., see Michael Moore's excellent movie, "Where To Invade Next."
It's not how the government treat the citizens, it's how we treat each other.
@@droogielamer - Government is just the way we organize ourselves to get things done. - Unfortunately, our government has been hijacked by the corporations/wealthy. And they way they treat us is abysmal and now ALL of the problem.
While the sentiment of Moores videos is good and you can learn a lot from them I suggest looking up secondary sources.
As Moore follows the American tradition of oversimplifying things and leaving out information.
@@Luredreier - That's an empty criticism. If you can't show examples of him not reporting correctly, you just reveal you have no arguments against his facts.
@@jontomas2271 Well .. he did not report how most of our prisoners are treated ... or their rooms or prisoncells... he took 2 of the most exposed ones, 1) that island where you can only serve like 1/3rd of your sentence .. that was not mentioned either, also Drammen prison is not how all norwegian prisons are looking so he was not truthful there I believe... now I have never been in a prison, but I know people who have also for longer durations than drunk driving and stuff like that but hard core drug-centenses.... they had to eat fjordland food in many of the prisons ... that is not 1st quality food I think.
Speaking as a Norwegian, you covered the basics. If Im to point out one thing it would be the norwegian prison system. With focus on that the criminals are supposed to return and integrate in to society. And the prisons are not run by private entities, only focusing on money. Makes a world of difference in the way you run the system. A beaten dog will bite once you release him.
When you have a government that need taxes to fund things, educating everyone is the best investment. Highly educated people have higher salaries and therefore pay more taxes. So it pays off in the long run. Businesses with educated workers have more success and also pay more taxes.
So it is simply the best investment in the future for the gorvernment :)
In the case of Norway, most of the funding is derived from the oil and gas industry. If it weren’t for all the revenue from that particular sector, the work force of Norway would not have so high salaries. Hence, it is the petro-industry that generates wealth, not taxes.
@@millennialmindset3624 Not exactly.
It's true that the oil industry drives up the value of our currency.
But most of our income both of the private economy and of the state is *not* from the oil.
Remember, only 4% of the oil fund is available to the government, less then. the expected return simply from profits made on the companies and other assets owned by our government.
As for the private economy, most of us don't work in the oil sector.
Nor in companies that supplies the sector.
Yes, companies supplying the oil sector produce a lot of money.
But even so the best estimates only project a few percentage contraction on what our economy would have been with continued extraction if we where to stop.
I you compare that with the current economy we'd *still* grow even without the oil, we'd just do so slower then with the oil during the adjustment phase.
@@Luredreier The petro-industry accounts for 28% of GDP in Norway and 42% revenue to the Norwegian Government. The oil and gas production has have given NOK 18 000 billion (inflation adjusted) to Norways GDP since the early 1970s. The petro industry is measured to be the largest contributor to economic growth, Government income, investment and export in Norway. The ordinary tax paid [for petro extraction] is 22%. The petroleum tax is 56% because of the extraordinary profitable industry.
About 25% in GDP and about 50% in tax income is a considerable amount to be called insignificant.
Edit: Amount
Edit 2: info in brackets
@@Luredreier The amount of people working in the oil industry vs. contribution to economic growth really hasn’t a direct correlation. It is the amount of petroleum that is able to be extracted from the ground to shore. Sure, of course you’ll need an x amount of people to work in the sector to get the petroleum up from the sea.
Their governments also don't allow polluted food which is the reason for many diseases in America. Their food doesn't have to be labeled "organic" as it is ALL organic.
Hi from Norway, that is not all true, still we have very strict food control rules , and more and more consumers are going for organic food.
@@hatorihanso1238 Jeg tror det er stor forskjell på hva som regnes som økologisk i Norge og hva som er «organic» i Statene. Sannsynligvis så ville alt som selges i Norge blitt merket som «organic» der nettopp fordi vi har et mye strenger lovverk rundt hva matvarer kan inneholde. Sånn sett er alt i Norge «organic».
@@kristoffer2363 Det er sant, 👍
Also .. there are rules about antibiotics so they don't use that much antibiotics at the farms ...
Not true, GMO is completely normal here. What we do not use tho, is massive amounts of antibiotics in our production
Thank you for this incredible service that you provide. PLEASE, CAN BERNIES TEAM INCREASE THE VOLUME - I can see that people in the video are talking, and I can (barely) hear voices, but I CANNOT make out what they are saying.
Also, it would be very useful if each of Bernie's videos had clear, obvious Date of Production at the top.
Thank you!
I feel the burn. 🔥
Love from Norway. 🇳🇴
I wish that the US would come to their senses and provide higher education for all who want it. And that the US would require teachers to have a Masters degree in order to teach our children. It's so incredibly shocking how ignorant so many of our k-12 teachers are. I remember that for years on the Jay Leno show he did a regular bit called Jay Walking, where he'd go out in the street and ask people all kinds of questions. Often the questions would be about basic science, geography, and US history. And there were a surprising number of teachers among the people he talked to. I remember that for years I watched Jay "Jay Walking" and being so incredibly shocked by how little people knew. It was absolutely terrifying all the many times that teachers of our children had absolutely no knowledge of basic knowledge (no higher than a fifth grade level). And that, my friends, is the explanation for why Republicans vote against their own interests. Why they fight tooth and nail to enact laws that go against everyone's interest. Why they are actually extremely focused on dumbing down education in America (fear of education=fear of the unknown). Half the country is a population of very frightened people. And they're frightened because they are so uneducated, therefore do not understand much of anything. It's heartbreaking that it seems as though the American ignorance has grown into a tsunami that is washing over the country and it has become too massive and too powerful to stop.
Norwegians understand that politicians are not there for the people, they are there for their own gains. They need to be changed constantly, like underwear, and for the same reason.
As we say in norway. Politicians works for the poeople not the people for them. If they dont behave they know we can just vote them out any they we want without having trails and stuff. They have to obey or not we get angry :D
Thanks!
Me, living in Greece, hearing the whole conversation.
*Hides in a corner, cries his eyes out*
Bernie 💙🇺🇸❤️❣️❤️🔥
I live in Norway and did a master degree in these topics, I can say all this is possible mainly due to the homogeneous society because it is easier in a homogeneous society to build trust. And this miracle wouldn't be possible without trust. In less homogeneous societies like US you get other advantages and benefits linked to that. It's not possible to get it all.
I thought theres a lot of immigrants too in norway is it not?
@@ahmadmujahid5198 not "a lot" they are mostly properly integrated and assimilated. But for the US standards and specially the new left ideology this country would be considered white supremacist. I don't agree they (we) are but that's how insane the left in US has gone.
@left Multicultural awareness is something good, homogenous countries are better because they master the art of welcoming other cultures while pressing for assimilation mainly through the society. In Norway people can survive without assimilation but they know and accept it will be harder to live here in that way. Society is aware of guetos and try to prevent that from happening.
HELLO FROM NORWAY 🇧🇻👋👋🇧🇻
The one-year parental leave is relatively recent: When we had our first kid in 1989, only 200 Norwegian dads took any leave at all besides the required minimum two weeks, typically directly following the birth. My wife & I split the full year but at that point we only got pay for 22 of the 52 weeks, so my half year was all unpaid but fully protected: I.e. I could not be fired or demoted so my job was guaranteed to be there when I returned. As far as I know, our former prime minister and current NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg might have been one of extremely few dads who had the same half year as myself. (His daughter ended up in the same high school as our son, that's how I heard about it.)
Maybe encouraging people on the state level to operate more like Norway.
Good luck trying to convince Alabama to be more like Norway..
If you want high quantity and low quality. Yeah look to Norway. Understand that the Ambassador is just kissing up to Bernie...
@@norapril2010 Low quality on what?
@left Obvious troll is obvious.
SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY PRESIDENT AND ALWAYS WILL BE MY PRESIDENT. I LOVE YOU BERNIE!!!!!!
I am from Italy and I want to cry.
People A would assume everyone else is a worse person then themselves, this brings us all down to mutual exploitation and misery.
People B would assume that society matters more than themselves, as a result they support each other and uplift everyone's quality of life.
People A will tell you they suffer because of others and they succeed because of themselves.
People B will tell you they succeed because of others and suffering is something to take care of.
No excuses for making someone's else life hard and miserable.
Where there is will, there is a way.
29:59 (Regarding wealth inequality) The first half of her answer is true, Norway being regarded as fairly new in terms of wealth. But the second half is just platitudes, and sort of inexpertly delivered (in good Norwegian fashion), which made Bernie want to jump in and repeat her point with a flourish. But the thing she talked about earlier, regarding labor unions, is in my opinion a better answer to Bernie's question. And don't get me wrong, Norway has plenty of rich getting richer, but they haven't gutted our labor unions.
I stand with Bernie Sanders because *BERNIE* *SANDERS* *STANDS* *FOR* *US!*
Bernie would fit into Norwegian politics, and he could retire with no more worries 😁 as his mission would be complete 🤣
I think In the USA, unfortunately all or most people have a attitude of survival of the fittest and the hell with everyone else. Norway is centuries ahead of the US.
You cannot survive alone in Norway, no matter how "fit" you are. The harsh climate will kill you.
Could it be the understanding of the idea “survival of the fittest”?
We would consider that to be adaptation, how can we survive and prosper best together to make a better life for us all…
Good morning from Norway ❤️🙏❤️🙏
I wish more politicians would do this. Other countries have much to teach us. There is no shame in admitting it. If anything, it's a shame we don't.
@left - Shame on you for ignoring my points that North Korea does those things because they HAVE to, or their people would starve and die. Most people live in desperate poverty under a cruel dictatorship.
Good video
Bernie, you are the best. Please primary Sleepy Joe!
I am a Norwegian and If I was an American I would vote for Bernie ❤. He is well liked in Norway!
the soundquality was better between tranquility base and Houston 53 years ago... other than that, good interview..
I'm Norwegian and I love Bernie Sanders, but to be honest, Marianne Williamson's ideals are much more in line with Norwegians; capitalism and socialism is father mocking moosedung to us; they're just tools we use and words we speak. Our original welfare system goes back to 1620 - long before the inventors of capitalism and socialism were even born. The real truth is that we pride ourselves in and nourish a passionate hatred for indignity, unfairness, unfreedom, injustice and inequality. This is what we are, so that is what we make. It is how we raise our children, what we demand from our police and what any politician must at least pretend to be.
This goes way back to the viking age; but it is most strongly symbolized by a single act a millennium ago when the high-born Hallvard Vebjørnson sacrificed his life to protect the life of an innocent slave girl, which ultimately ended slavery. We celebrate that day every year on May 15th, called St. Hallvard's Day and he is the Patron Saint of Oslo. I hope to be alive to see the day celebrated globally in 2043.
I guess sometimes words have to be spoken before they truly make sense; there is no justice in treating an innocent slave girl unfairly.
Senator Sanders asks why CEOs are happy to be more equal in Norway. But in 1973, there was an oil crisis and people couldn't use their cars. King Olav V took the tram to go skiing because as King of Norway, he could not afford to have his name tarnished by being labeled as elitist. In short; if you're better than us, then you're not one of us, but if you are one of us, then we are all there for you. The Norwegian word for society is "samfunn", which literally means to find togetherness. The current Crown Prince of Norway went to public school, but he sent his children to private school. I believe that is the reason why the Kingdom of Norway will seize to exist when the King dies. We can't have a King that is better than his subjects.
If there is one thing America can learn from Norway, I say it is our disgust for patriotism. My grandfather explained this to me as a child; those who were proud of Norway, were the ones who betrayed it to the nazis. Those who were humble and grateful, were the ones who fought for its freedom. Pride is filthy. "Navel-watching", we call it.
I would give my life for all humans to have the same rights as I do.
Spot on. This is what we are and this is what we make.
100% true
Når jeg ser på alle andre land er jeg stolt av og være norsk og stolt av hva norge får til. Men jeg hadde fortsatt kjempet for landet mitt. Aldri gitt det vekk. Så er vel fin linje der. Man kan være stolt av historien og landet sitt uten og være svak og gi det vekk da :D Men ja man kjemper jo for medmennesker og ikke bakken man står på!
@@espeseth9: Oh, but being humble does not mean being weak or submissive. What I mean, is I'm not proud of what _we_ did to resist in the 1940s, because I'm born in 1980. It would be stolen valor. I'm humbled by what _they_ did. If an enemy soldier comes to take Norway, he should understand that I will happily pluck his eye out with a spoon and make him watch me eat it. It's the paragraph of the Law of the City of Kardemomme that we don't tell children; for as long as you possibly can, you should be patient and accepting, kind and friendly, and then you should jump straight to obscene brutality.
Back the healthcare topic, is there a waiting list for specialty care such as surgery for example cardiac surgery or other major or minor surgery?
In Norway, yes, it is.
the term wait list needs to be measured also in regards urgency of the procedure. For example if you have a mialgia or bursitis you may end waiting months as such conditions will generally not endanger life and involve minor levels of discomfort while at the same time procedures regarding life threatening conditions will be dealt with urgency. and it is not just in terms of surgery, for example 13 years ago when i moved from the US to Europe a regular free health check verified that I had Acute leukemia, in 2 days I was already receiving (Free) treatment .
In the US, we often wait YEARS to see a doctor because we can't afford it. Then if you have an HMO and you need an MRI, that is yet another hassle because doctor needs to get permission from the insurance company, which you may not get. Then you have to wait while you appeal the insurance industry decision. God forbid you need bone marrow transplant. Chances are it is considered "experimental" so it won't be covered.
As other replies reflect, yes. Dependent on urgency there may be a waiting list. There is also limitations on treatments, so an expensive experimental treatment that is not approved for the public service is not provided. We do have very good health outcomes.
@@sharonrinkiewicz3940 correct. I work for a Medicare advantage plan and I feel so bad when I have to tell people more steps and waiting for them to have needed care, bc I have to remember that my job is for the insurance company and not necessarily for the people calling for help
Funny story, I live in a town with about 900 people and we have 27 different nationalities living here... now at my work I sometimes get kindergardenkids and they can come from many different nationalities, mostly Lithauanian, Norwegians and have seen spain and Thailand ... however what baffle me is how well they are at languages ... almost everyone (mind you these are 2-3 years old kids.. maybe 4-5 at most) speaks english ... and are atleast bi lingual.... some even have 3 languages at kindergarden, not because they nessesary learn languages at the kindergarden apart from Norwegian I suppose but still kids learn languages quick I know but still baffle me.
The main factor is, as you say, that children learn languages quick. - There is a maturity window from the ages of two to about eight where the brain is highly adaptive toward learning language. I was a social worker in a town that was experiencing a massive immigration of Guatemalan refugees. After much experience, we realized the best thing we could do for these families was to get their children into daycare as soon as possible. - A young child can go from non-English-speaking to 80 percent fluency in one year, with almost zero effort! -- Many adults never get better than 50 percent fluency, no matter how much they study. --- The children quickly become a crucial resource to the family because they will be excellent interpreters.
@@jontomas2271 I heared that humans aquire language rather than learn it, dont know if its true. But, the main point was that the thing that seperates humans from other animals is the ability aquire language . So the human mind is "programmed" for languages, and a child will eventually pick up language instinctively as they grow. But, this ability disappears as humans gets older. And thats why it is so hard to learn a new language when you are older, because you have to learn rather than aquire it. I find that really cool.
How hard is it to reside in Norway as an American, I guess like what would be our green card process?
Not that hard at all to get a workers permit/temporary residence permit and live in Norway if you have higher education for a degree that is in demand. If you don't then it's very hard to find work and you need to have a job lined up with a qualifying salary which is minimum NOK 428 200 per year pre-tax or $46 000 before you get the temporary residence permit. It's also pretty hard to become an actual citizen. Norway has very strict immigration.
or you could marry a norwegian ... ofcourse, but you would not get to seek permament citizen before after I think 7 years of marriage (it could have changed I don't remember). But getting a job or have an education that is needed would help alot. I think when I was a child in the 80's we had a american swim teacher... but she was not there for a long time, don't know why really .. don't even think she was a proper teacher tough.
It's moderate to hard. Because of the EU Freedom of Movement, we get a lot of the "necessary" immigration through EU member countries like Sweden, Denmark, Germany and the UK. Being that spoiled for choice, the rules for the rest of the world are stricter for vocational immigration.
The best way, if not the easiest one, is to get a job with a company that has a presence in Norway and requesting a transfer. It's hard to straight up just find a job in Norway for someone who does not speak the langugage. Not because we don't understand English, but because we do. So learning the language is pretty much a requirement in the short and mid term, unless you have unique or sought after skills which an employer will tolerate a language gap for. (R&D, specialized IT, medicine, physics, chemistry -- think energy or university level research) And even then you have to consider the next job you'll need to apply for.
You could also apply to start a business in Norway, but you would be required to prove beforehand that you have a high probability of making at least about $30K on that business, the first year. That's a LOT for a market you don't know. It could be doable for, say, an IT consultant who could hook a few companies with remote freelance work from the US first, then apply to move the "business" to Norway. I know an American couple who did this, and they made it easies for themselves by moving up into the rural north. (They came for the nature and, well, their next door neighbour is about 4 miles away)
Once you're in on either a rolling work visa, or a annual-renewal individual company visa, citizenship requires a residency of 8 out of the last 11 years as a main rule. Not everything the ambassador mentions is a citzenship right, a lot of it is tied to taxing your income to Norway, so if you get residency you'll be covered for *most* of it. Like access to healthcare.
Easy, US is on good list - so quite easy
@@arcticblue248 It's not just enough to marry someone, the person he marries have to have a set income of around 400k nok
Bernie is the best
its important to note that the path to socialism does not lie through liberalism, its a dead end that leads directly back to conservativism in the end.
My country, USA, is failing it's citizens compared to Norway. America is dying of the disease of GREED. Enough is never enough for the wealthy, while the rest of us exist rather than live, because we are constantly struggling to keep up financially. And with the problem of rental increases and gasoline, it's getting much worse. I've begun thinking of leaving.....I hadn't thought of Norway, but maybe I will.
Great topic, but the sound was baaaad..............
I’m definitely moving to Norway whenever I get the money to
Get ready to pump out the taxes, kid!
I’m VERY reluctant of letting americans into my country. You lot seem to have issues that you need to resolve at home.
@@SarveshKumar-lp5vl i guess you missed the point of the video
@@salsa564 and could you very so kindly explain it to me, dear sir?
@@SarveshKumar-lp5vl in total, you get more for less compared to the US.
If you’re having trouble with hearing accents, just use your cc ( close captioning).
All my families problems would be solved ,if we were Norwegians
Norwegian here. Every time I hear Bernie talk, I am struck by the fact that almost every single thing he mentions is common sense. But then again, we are commies ;)
Btw, Finland is even better.
Hahaha so true, but in that we do commie better than the real commies 😂
@left - Nonsense.
Not all of our schools is free. We have private high schools, Sonans, Akademietn etc. And private business school BI ,markedshøyskolen Christiania that cost money for tuition. So that all education is free is not correct. Though it is not very expensive.
She didnt say all shcools were free, she said shcool is free for all. Of course, you can choose a private shcool If you want.
And Norway has lånekassen so you can have a government controlled low interest loan. Are they still wiping half of the debt upon completion of your degree? No predatory lenders for education.
@@rune6119 Elementary and high school is also free in the US if you choose public. When he asks about the price of college (17.38), she says college is free. Tuition is free and at 18.13 "everything is free". That is not correct Handelshøyskolen Bi and høyskolen Christiania are very popular private schools.Where you have to pay tuition. She should have said all public education is free.
@@Assassin546 fair enough.
Norway has the best social security system that I know of. (I believe Finland is equal to Norway) I lived in Norway for 1 years. It works. 👌
We don’t automatically trust the government. She said the we trust the government. She ment to say that there is more trust then in america, not that we’re putting trust in things that are not trustworthy. It’s not blind trust.
And we can hold them accountable which is removed in the US
and the best thing is that Norway is not in debt, as I have heard. Like all our other western nations
That’s because they have a well managed wealth fund
Not true, but Norway is 'solvent'. In 2020, the national debt of Norway amounted to around 156.87 billion U.S. dollars. Norway had debt from WW2 and before they struck oil in the '70s. It has to do with bonds with a long maturity date. That's all I really know about it, but you probably can find more to read up about it.
@@TheAccidentalViking thank you for the informations. Greetings !!
@@brittalbach416 156 billion is virtually nothing, comparatively
@@gullfeber but it sounds like a lot, no ? How much is it in other countries, do you know? How are their relations to Russia?
Look this up Bernie. You should know this. You thought the US needed to raise taxes to cover everyone's healthcare. You were wrong The truth is the US govt already spends more public money per capita than many countries with 100% public healthcare. Costs being the same we would actually save taxpayers money. It's an OECD study.
"The U.S. Spends More Public Money on Healthcare Than Sweden or Canada" - Visual Capitalist.
"The U.S. spends more public money on healthcare per capita than Canada, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, France, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. In fact, each year the U.S. government spends $4,197 per person, while the OECD median spend is $3,677."
And by the way Norway is just a little more than what we already spend public money on healthcare.
The US now spends about $12,000 per person (2020 figures), we spend more because our prices are out of control. Pharmaceuticals are more than twice as expensive, but the real cost gap is in hospital inpatient/outpatient costs and administrative cost.
We are in a consolidating market fueled healthcare system where hospitals have become private monopolies which can push prices up on procedures and equipment to profit more and to pay doctors and nurses higher than anywhere else. On top of this we are forced to pay manifold administration fees since our private insurance marketplace is so sprawling and convoluted. We use less healthcare than any other comparable countries and have worse outcomes while paying more.
The problem is that the US doesn’t have *federal price controls* so cost of care is based on what the market will bear. Combine this with inaccessible/costly education systems and you get a multiplier effect as quality trained healthcare workers dry up/burnout.
@@nightoftheworld to be fair, I think that $12,000 per capita you are stating is probably combining both private and public funds together. Only study I've seen so far showing what each country spends public money on healthcare so far is the OECD one. But If it's $12,000 / person that would be outrageous. The richest most powerful country in the world already paying more than enough to cover everyone's healthcare. And I believe Norway needs to tax their oil exports in order to afford alot of their social programs. We don't even do that and we are already spending the same or more than they are! But we are stuck paying high premiums, copays, deductibles, etc. for no reason. And employers are paying 80% of those premiums when we work making it so we are dependent on them just to get affordable healthcare. I don't even know how small business and self employed even pay those high costs. I think the majority of self employed are probably relying on a working spouse to use their employer's healthcare plan. They should all be realizing it doesn't have to be that way. And yes costs would need to come down. If we live in a global market now I'm not sure why they aren't the same as other countries. It doesn't make sense why we are paying so much more for healthcare. In fact I think we should be paying less!
@@jimforthew yes $12k is total spending for every US citizen, this number is from the CMS government website. The US is in sad shape, our market is an obvious perversion. Hopefully this will change soon as we begin to have more expansive public conversations about how others have better managed these issues for their families and workers. People want a caring government, not one that just works to enrich the owning class.
@@nightoftheworld and as far as doctors and education goes I agree we need to make college free or at least tuition free so we have more doctors, nurses, etc. Also it seems to me the US imports alot of doctors as well. I'd guess the majority of doctors aren't even originally from the US at this point. Failure of the education system maybe?
If this is accurate it says:
"Immigrants accounted for 28 percent of the 958,000 physicians and surgeons practicing in the United States, and 38 percent of the 492,000 home health aides" - migrationpolicy org.
So not quite a majority of immigrant doctors yet but getting close.
Why we dont have dental is beyond me. Granted, I am retired so I get support for it, but for working people its a moneydrain. Sidenote, for emergencies/accidents I think its covered, Im not sure how the details are, but for anything else you gonna get robbed.
We pay more than 11k a year through taxes and not everything is free, a lot of medication that is free in Sweden is not free in Norway because the government finds the medication too expensive to be used on its population. I would highly recommend insurance in Norway too in case shit like that happen so you can go abroad
1) This is a minor thing were the meds in question cost a ton AND often in context of people that are at the end of their natural lives. Should the nations use millions pr month to give a 90 year old person an extra year or two... Money isnt unlimited and a cost vs gain, while treating practically anything is the focus.
2) Allot of the "meds" some people want, because they have been suckered, are pure scams. Some American cancer treatments like the Burzynski Clinic comes to mind. No, you will not get tax payer funded money to go to scammers.
@@Lobos222 what about the woman that if had she not moved to Sweden right before she got her diagnose she would have died because the Norwegians said her treatment was too expensive, even the Swedish health minister called for a debate in Norway telling that Swedes did not put a price tag on humans like Norway. It’s a shame and disgrace
@@alexbleks Anecdotal examples will happen. The process of allowing new meds is not done over night. However the impact in such regards it less than 0,5% or something among people that need healthcare. ANY US comparison in such regards would still lead to more people needing and not getting proper health care. That aspect is not a negative towards a socialized healthcare system because the alternative is that you would still be at the SUBJECTIVE ruling of X insurance company.
You do not escape the same risk by having a health insurance unless you have a health insurance for a key thing, but what if you get some other issue and now you are suddenly back to square one.
There are similar examples of kids being denied on going treatment by their insurance company, example that i coincidentally got in my feed a while back: "A Kid with Declining Health Because Insurance Denied His Meds".
Point is, this notion private is better or reduces remove such anecdotal risk is not accurate. Sure, you can get SOME treatments a bit faster or SOME meds access, very few btw, the general public doesnt get, but private insurance doesnt remove all risk of becoming an "anecdotal example".
EDIT:
I am not saying people shouldnt have supplementing health insurance as well, but it is not a "cover all" thing or "better".
Why do conservative people think the size and population of a country determines wether or not we can care for our people. We are a bigger country, so that means: more money, more resources, more capability, we have more people, but that just means we have more resources to care for those people.
I don’t know how they don’t just scale it up in their mind. 🤷🏻♂️
Because Norway has low rates of immigration, so less people coming in their country every year that need medicaid equivalent type social programs, while the US takes in half of the worlds immigrants, not even counting illegal immigrants
@@brennanmason1973 - That explains nothing. You have an incredibly skewed view of the economic effect of immigrants. They ADD to the economy because they work for near minimum wage at jobs Americans don't want to do, like picking crops in the fields and working in chicken processing plants and slaughter houses.
@@jontomas2271 the immigrants that Norway takes are the only the 1% in terms of skills, meaning they will most often be business owners or taking high end jobs and pay a LOT more in taxes and consume almost nothing in benefits
@@brennanmason1973 So explain why USA pays more pr citizen on healthcare than Norway then. If Norway system is supposed to be so bad for USA? You mean, cutting costs via inefficiencies or 3rd parties ala the insurance bis, is a bad thing? That spending 1 billion is better in a US setting than the US changing their system and paying 0,7 billion? Do you have other comments were you try to insinuate "international bankers" are the main issues in the world or do you go full mask off and talk about Jews?
@@Lobos222 when people say that the US spends more per citizen and say the Universal Healthcare is affordable it’s affordable to the person who has the healthcare but its not affordable to the country.
So much so that the state of California tried to pass universal healthcare twice and refuses to do so because they would have both immediately doubled the debt.
Making insurance optional and having a patient to provider system is a component of it, also a complete deregulation of the healthcare industry, including things that could be done by Nurse Prac requiring a doctors signature, price transparency, The ability to buy insurance off state lines, reforming the FDA thats constantly inflating prescriptions, no more patents for prescriptions to allow competition, and the most stupid of them all
Remove the regulation that literally requires you to get permission from your competition to open a hospital
Bernie, run as an independent in 24
I REALLY want Bernie to run again and would campaign, post and contribute as I have the previous 2 times (which
has been and is still, at 83, very modestly). Still, I somehow truly just can't believe there are enough voters who would get around to changing their voter registration to give him enough independent votes to win. Do you have any reason to think my fear/reservation is unfounded? NotMe.Us.
Is anyone else jealous? I am. Norway is a very enlightened country. Those tax rates seem very high until you actually do the math. For what you get in return it is a GREAT deal. And no one gets left out. Wow.
Oil companies are taxed at 75%, still the most profitable. Let that sink in when American Enron or similar cry about 1% increase in taxes or them having to pay property tax on their mega plots of land they use in a state. Another aspect is that the government in a majority stakes holder in the largest oil company in Norway. So the public even gets 51% of the dividend pay out as well. Oh and they can mandate that Norwegians are used as workforce at sea. The workers get payed a wage, therefor pay income tax, go home, spend their money on food, drink and entertainment, which gives sales tax revenue (15% food, 25% most other). Which gives increases tax revenue for the government, but it also creates more demand via more economic activity, which creates a need for supply, which creates jobs, which creates bis needing to pay corporate taxes on their profits, workers need to pay income tax... You know what. Social Democracies kinda sounds like well regulated capitalism!
@@Lobos222 I mean yeah - that is what social democracy is (a well regulated capitalism). What a dream!
USA have learned us very much i thank the USA for that so as Norweginan it is a bless!
I'm 48, Swedish, living abroad. It's funny. For most of my life, THE shining example that American liberals would talk about is Sweden. The press would go on about "the SWEDISH model." Yes everybody knows that Denmark and Norway are similar. But Sweden was the go-to reference for how a wonderful society should be on the American left
I noticed over the last 10 years, libs quitely stopped saying Sweden and now mostly refer to Denmark or Norway or Finland. Because the problems that the left have caused in Sweden are now too big to hide or sweep under the rug, even for an American audience.
And by "the left" I do NOT mostly mean the old school Swedish left: The ones mainly focused on unions or better working conditions etc. I respect them very much. I'm talking about the newer, alien, "woke" left that leaves nothing but stupidity, hate, division, and this insane hatred for Western civilization and everything in it. They are destroying this ancient country at a breathtaking pace.
I doubt that's why most don't consider Sweden much. Sweden has the reputation of being the most oppressive government in Europe. I read of actual incidents where young people were arrested simply for laughing too much, because the "authorities" thought that meant they were smoking cannabis. - No thanks. - Freedom is the number one priority for most Americans.
As a Norwegian, I know that in a superior timeline, Bernie Sanders became President in 2016... I want to live in that world!
I'm moving to Norway!!!
You should! Although (personally), I'd suggest Denmark, Sweden, Iceland or Finland, because it is easier for you to travel, as Norway is not in the EU 😉
I’m Norwegian, and workers at McDonald’s do NOT make $20. I quit my retail job last year, and as a 22 year old with years of experience, I earned $17. A 17 year old who works in retail earns $13.
Healthcare in Norway is affordable, but the wait times are long. I had to wait six months to see a dermatologist. We choose our own doctor among those avaliable in the public system. However, there is a shortage of primary care physicians, so the options may be limited depending on where you live. If you become seriously ill, the government will not cover treatments they deem as too expensive. As a result, crowdfunding for medical treatment is also a thing here.
I’m happy to answer questions you have about Norway in the comments.
I also live in Norway and I am like, you are wrong...
McD dont earn 20$. Adjusted for currency fluctuation, they do... Just because 1$ is currently 9NOK doesnt mean it has always been that (168NOK, 5 years ago, at 7NOK pr 1US$ = 24$ pr hour). It is actually good for exports that the Krona is less valued. 17 year olds are not adults and the currency aspect impacts here as well.
Healthcare in Norway is affordable, but the wait times are long. Is also wrong, you get cancer that needs surgery, you get operated within a week. You need a doctor its a phone call away. However if you need a dermatologist. You might to wait a bit more because you ALSO have private options for such. Ergo, the government saves money on having companies or people more well off "skipping" the line and choosing private within key areas the government allows. In short, if it was only private the wait times would be longer or the services costing allot more to lock people out and thereby get the lines down. Hardly something I would call "better". Lastly, this notion expensive treatments are not paid for is also BS. Yes, funds is limited and a nation has to be responsible with their spending. Some new treatment that hasnt proved itself yet or down right pseudo science some people THINK or FEEL work are not support. That would be irresponsible. Do you really want tax payer money to do to some "Voodoo doctor" that says hes treatment works. Yes, there are examples of people getting denied treatment as well from real issues. If you are 99 years old and you get a super rare issue that would cost millions to treat. You are not getting treatment via the public, but again. That is the real nature of being economical responsible. If the 99 year old has the funds to pay for such himself then he can get treatment, but the contrast is that the 99 years old would pay for all treatment in far right wing society regardless.
@@Lobos222 Nothing I said here was wrong. You don’t ‘adjust for currency fluctuations’ when comparing current salaries between countries. You use the current exchange rate. That goes without saying.
The salary at McDonald’s is $12-$20 depending on age and experience, by today’s exchange rate. $20 is the absolute highest, and you need 10 years of experience in the industry to earn that amount.
Just because there is a shorter wait time for certain treaments, it doesn’t mean that wait times are short overall. The wait times for hospital treatment is on average 63 days. Three out of four therapists have a wait time of at least six months in the public system. Because of the wait times, an increasing number of people buy private health insurance.
At no point did I say that the government won’t cover any expensive treatments. They won’t cover treaments that they think is too expensive, like immunotherapy and stem cell therapy. The government negotiates prices with pharmaceutical companies, and if the price is too high, the medicine won’t be covered.
Even though Norway is a good country, no country is perfect. American viewers should know both the positives and the negatives, so that they can have a more nuanced picture of what it’s like here. Also, I would encourage you to be a bit more respectful when discussing with other people, instead of calling it ‘bs’.
Just a question. Did you wait six months to see a dermatologist during the pandemic? A lot of specialist consultations were put on hold for a while due to the strain that was put on the healthcare system. Obviously the waitlist is longer now due to the backlog unless it’s critical or life saving treatment.
For many Norwegians, Bernie Sanders is the last adult left in the US.
Still no viking and bent his back for the pressure last time. He was the righteous candidate, still Clinton swallowed him and he accepted it. No strong leader. All talk, no walk.
Yes
Right. But don't forget his massive support. If the corrupt DNC had not colluded with the corporate media to cheat Sanders in the primaries, he would now be our president.