I might give this a try! My stalls to back-fly are like an epileptic fit, arms all over the place, no symmetrical control whatsoever. Hmm, just when I'm getting OUT of the habit of holding my risers, damn!
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Arent his hands supposed to go up to try and get his weight back under the wing? Could he also fly with the wind and brake a bit? Disclaimer... I know nothing.
@@PhilippeLarcher Different instructors clearly have different advice. Important is to know why? If you get used to grabbing risers, contact with the wing through the brake lines diminishes, which diminishes active flying capability. That made sense to me. But happy to learn the opposite, why you should grab the risers, there may be a lesson there, for me. Let me know.
I agree that you should not grab risers in paragliding. This is the only situation I'm suggesting pilots to rest they arms at carabiner level or hold them for extra grip. Full stall can be overwhelming manuver to learn, buy locking your hands symmetricaly and keeping them there, nothing will hapen to the wing, it will stay in stall/backfly position. Or as in this video, even a cravat and spining around dose not present danger in SIV environment. It give time for pilot to get accustomed to the new feeling and the mess. Here the pilot had the instructions to hold the position, stabilise it and then work out what to do, which he did with some mistakes and some well executed movements. The goal is to learn in safe environment not to get the pilot scared. Of course in real situation this would be most likley too long, but he is learning here. Once he is more confident with the stalls and back fly thats when they will go without touching harness or risers to control the wing properly. Hope this clarifies my though process
@@FlyingKarlis Makes sense, given the background of the vid, thanks! I’ll still try to do without, but there are exceptions to almost every rule, especially in PG😜🤙
@@MarkvanEs according to David (whose experience is not to be questioned) it's a good technique to avoid twist during hands up and heli, and shaking during backfly, and involuntary input (overpiloting resulting in cascade) in every case. Of course you need to be prepared to release your hold and active fly instantly (and grab again somewhere else if needed). He calls them "safety hands up" and "safety backfly".
А что вообще произошло, почему купол сдожился по краям, потом вроде наполнился и тут опять, интиресно, это кум-то созданые потоки воздуха, т.к. было видно тень, или это ветер такое исполняет.
Yes and no, when learning, it is better to look at what you can control, once you are familiar it is good idea to look at the wing and try to control it. Till you get there it can be contra productive!
@FlyingKarlis I'm old School, im not up with what you kids are doing now.. The reason why I look up was due to a collapse 19 years ago that then went into a cascade.. this happened because I didn't know how much of the wing was still flying as I tried to stop the rotation .. I cant be convinced otherwise that seeing what you have to work with in any situation is a bad idea.. we don't fly in the dark so there's no reason to train for it...
In this case, he was in a SIV getting used to the feeling of the stall, before he can start fixing things by looking at the wing, he has to learn to trust himself to keep everything symmetrically, this helps with learning in safer manner, it takes more time and more attempts, but the perception of the whole process eventually becomes a lot slower. After that you can start fixing by looking, as it is a better way to do for most pilots. At the same time, if you are good at wing control, it is possible to feel, how much of the wing is gone and know how much input is needed to fix things, this however requires a lot more training than most pilots ever do.
Una volta con la mia moto con borse laterali e bauletto dietro alla sella, mentre andavo ai 200 km orari, ha iniziato a sbandare e occupavo le due corsie dell'autostrada. _Mi sono salvato, vado ancora oltre i 210 km orari ma non ho più messo le borse sulla moto._ *Mi chiedo come possa quest'uomo volare di nuovo su un parapendio, dato che nemmeno lui sa cosa è accaduto.*
"It is very easy. You pull and you release." // (C) Teo
🤣🤣
Looks like a first time old school stall.
It did turn out as such, was not planned to be so.
And that's why we do two stage 😅
Beautiful recovery
I think so as well.
What caused the parachute to collapse momentarily?
Pilot pulled hard down on both controls and held down.
How come people don't put something in the wing to keep it from collapsing??
Jesus imagine stalling close to the ground, with no time to fix the issue. Luckily you were high enough to get it worked out
He caused the stall, it was on purpose.
I might give this a try! My stalls to back-fly are like an epileptic fit, arms all over the place, no symmetrical control whatsoever. Hmm, just when I'm getting OUT of the habit of holding my risers, damn!
I'm organizing a SIV course this August at Lake Garda, come join that will help you the work on all of it. www.flyingkarlis.com/siv-lake-garda-with-flying-karlis/
Mais fait en 2 temps bordel
Arent his hands supposed to go up to try and get his weight back under the wing? Could he also fly with the wind and brake a bit? Disclaimer... I know nothing.
The hands should have gone up a bit faster for sure.
Why does this happens? I m yet to understand, and I hate when the stall goes like this with belly out. How to avoid?
Theo made a new tutorial
@@JohKern can you please paste a link
@@sza1985 ruclips.net/video/J14wfFS1aFk/видео.htmlsi=bR4cG76xf4rmSPRV
The wind sound effects make me think OMG it must be freezing cold up there! Is it? Or is it hotter, cuz you're flying so close to the sun! Ha!
Usually it is colder the higher you go.. 😅
@@FlyingKarlis I figured...darn it, I HATE being cold. Thanks.
О Боги
..какой это труд!
Но это того стоит ❤
What brand of Glider are you flying, BGD ?
Its a Bgd Base 2, High B wing
Yes, it is BGD Base 2. Personally I fly the Cure 2 from BGD.
Can you guys recommend a good starter wing? And perhaps a good place to learn? I’m in central California near San Francisco. Thanks 🙏
Same as MD in the comments
How much hight do you lose with a full stall?
It depends
@@FlyingKarlis whats the range from best case, normal case and worst case?
Stall to autorotatiok maybe?
Kind of, but not intentionally
Grabbing the risers a bit, but good effort!
Why not? David Eyraud advise grabbing for backfly and full hands up
@@PhilippeLarcher Different instructors clearly have different advice. Important is to know why? If you get used to grabbing risers, contact with the wing through the brake lines diminishes, which diminishes active flying capability. That made sense to me. But happy to learn the opposite, why you should grab the risers, there may be a lesson there, for me. Let me know.
I agree that you should not grab risers in paragliding. This is the only situation I'm suggesting pilots to rest they arms at carabiner level or hold them for extra grip. Full stall can be overwhelming manuver to learn, buy locking your hands symmetricaly and keeping them there, nothing will hapen to the wing, it will stay in stall/backfly position. Or as in this video, even a cravat and spining around dose not present danger in SIV environment. It give time for pilot to get accustomed to the new feeling and the mess. Here the pilot had the instructions to hold the position, stabilise it and then work out what to do, which he did with some mistakes and some well executed movements. The goal is to learn in safe environment not to get the pilot scared.
Of course in real situation this would be most likley too long, but he is learning here. Once he is more confident with the stalls and back fly thats when they will go without touching harness or risers to control the wing properly.
Hope this clarifies my though process
@@FlyingKarlis Makes sense, given the background of the vid, thanks! I’ll still try to do without, but there are exceptions to almost every rule, especially in PG😜🤙
@@MarkvanEs according to David (whose experience is not to be questioned) it's a good technique to avoid twist during hands up and heli, and shaking during backfly, and involuntary input (overpiloting resulting in cascade) in every case. Of course you need to be prepared to release your hold and active fly instantly (and grab again somewhere else if needed).
He calls them "safety hands up" and "safety backfly".
Whattt!!! Why would you do that to yourself! You’re crazy man 🫡
А что вообще произошло, почему купол сдожился по краям, потом вроде наполнился и тут опять, интиресно, это кум-то созданые потоки воздуха, т.к. было видно тень, или это ветер такое исполняет.
по-моему он дернул до конца в низ веревки управления
How often does that happen?
Not that often.
@@FlyingKarlisdid he do this on purpose?
@@TableWalkLake The stall part yes, not the carvat part
Not looking ☝️enough
Yes and no, when learning, it is better to look at what you can control, once you are familiar it is good idea to look at the wing and try to control it. Till you get there it can be contra productive!
@FlyingKarlis I'm old
School, im not up with what you kids are doing now.. The reason why I look up was due to a collapse 19 years ago that then went into a cascade.. this happened because I didn't know how much of the wing was still flying as I tried to stop the rotation .. I cant be convinced otherwise that seeing what you have to work with in any situation is a bad idea.. we don't fly in the dark so there's no reason to train for it...
In this case, he was in a SIV getting used to the feeling of the stall, before he can start fixing things by looking at the wing, he has to learn to trust himself to keep everything symmetrically, this helps with learning in safer manner, it takes more time and more attempts, but the perception of the whole process eventually becomes a lot slower. After that you can start fixing by looking, as it is a better way to do for most pilots. At the same time, if you are good at wing control, it is possible to feel, how much of the wing is gone and know how much input is needed to fix things, this however requires a lot more training than most pilots ever do.
@@FlyingKarlis sorry let's agree to disagree.. you should always look and see what's going on
Una volta con la mia moto con borse laterali e bauletto dietro alla sella, mentre andavo ai 200 km orari, ha iniziato a sbandare e occupavo le due corsie dell'autostrada.
_Mi sono salvato, vado ancora oltre i 210 km orari ma non ho più messo le borse sulla moto._
*Mi chiedo come possa quest'uomo volare di nuovo su un parapendio, dato che nemmeno lui sa cosa è accaduto.*
🪂Scary Merry🪂
Not so bad, he got out of it and landed dry
@@FlyingKarlis yes your right. 🫣😱🧐😇🤗